Tyson-Tillman & Foreman-Rodrigues Doubleheader 1990, ENTIRE HBO PROGRAM
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Features George Foreman vs Adilson Rodrigues and Mike Tyson vs Henry Tillman. Hosted by Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant, and Sugar Ray Leonard. Entire HBO program recorded on VHS June 16, 1990.
People disliking have no respect. This person uploaded this from VHS, they didn’t have to and you don’t have to watch it. Just no reason to dislike.
You're wrong. What's causing the lagging and dropouts in this video is not that it was recorded on VHS, but that it was digitally encoded by a cheap ass computer that didn't have the processing power to handle a long video. It was simply done wrong then uploaded without a care in the world.
Larry Merchant calling Foreman's comeback "... one of the great scams in boxing history!" Joke was on Larry!
It often was on him.
@@chubbycatfish4573 He did have a point though; Foreman did a lot of scamming with his cynical matchmaking. He made 5 million dollars to face Jimmy Ellis for instance.
You have to look at historical context always. At the time yes, Foreman did appear as a fat old guy knocking out cans. He proved his critics wrong but it wasn't obvious in '90.
@@KeyserSoze23 Larry Merchant had no idea what he was looking at, Mike Tyson did (dodging Foreman,) speaks for itself.
Yet another reason Larry merchant is the worst commentator in sports history
It's great when people take the time to upload the entire thing like this - thanks!!
Brings back more memories this way.
FACTSSSSSS!!!
Larry Merchant bashing George Foreman constantly about his weight had me almost pissing in my pants all George had to do was reach outside of the ring and give him an uppercut
All George needed to do was glare at him. Merchant
's just a would be Hemingway. He knows shit about boxing, neither does Lumpy Lampley. They're both overpaid cunts.
Larry Merchant was a bullshit artist. A bit of a dick too. Give me Gil Clancy any day.
Feels good to go back in time to watch these classics
That HBO boxing theme at 1:10...one of the songs of the soundtracks of my childhood.
can't find this theme anywhere
Classic
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Magic
Larry Merchant was always so disrespectful of Foreman. I always love to listen to him talking smack about Foreman seconds before Foreman knocked out Moorer. It is better than the knockout itself.
He was pretty much disrespectful to everyone. Larry Merchant is just about the only sportscaster that I absolutely can't stand. He was terrible and so degrading and insulting.
@@1981lashlarue Joking, he has a great sense of humor bolth of them !! How about Larry interviewing Don King, "Ok can you answer that in 10,000 words or less" !!! hahaha !!!!
Yeah to be fair tho many boxing experts thought Foreman’s comeback was a joke right up until he put up a good fight against Holyfield for the title.
@@1981lashlarue Larry Merchant’s a polarizing figure no doubt, I get why people can either take him or leave him, but he was no doubt passionate & knowledgable about boxing. I always enjoyed hearing his take before and after fights because he’d give his real, honest, and many times harsh opinion in a poetic manner which in itself was entertaining.
@@sonnyblack0870 True, but I remember this one when I was 18 and thinking Wow he's so much bigger than Tyson and has the record for KOs, hmmmm......
I loved it when Sugar Ray said George Foreman is a breath of fresh air and was then asked “do you acknowledge Bob Arum and Don Kings part in his “resurrection” he just repeated himself lol. Brilliant humour from the Sugarman!
What's causing the lagging and dropouts in this video is not that it was recorded on VHS, but that it was digitally encoded by a cheap ass computer that didn't have the processing power to handle a long video. It was simply done wrong then uploaded without a care in the world.
Still, we're grateful to have this.
I don't blame any fighter for not wanting to be interviewed by Larry Merchant.
What you talking about. Larry is awsome, has beer around this sport forever, know more about this sport than almost anyone.
So who are you to throw shit on him
@@jimmykarlsson2567 my opinion, who are you to thow shit at my opinion?
@@bradmacleanfishing your opinion is wrong, you don't even f..ing know the man, so shut the hell up Floyd lover
@@jimmykarlsson2567 complacency is not an asset. Just because he’s been around for a while doesn’t mean he doesn’t say ridiculously insulting nonsense during fights. Like telling mayweather he would’ve kicked his ass if he was 20 years younger
@@jokerhaha5123 50 years younger
Thanks for putting up these old HBO events. Really fun nostalgia trip.
Man, that HBO intro takes me back to when I recorded fights on VHS. I always enjoyed their profile/vignettes of the fighters.
Thank you for uploading these vids.✊🏾
Too bad the quality of this one is unwatchable. Really bad VHS copy. :( . . .
I’m 17 mins in and it’s fine
Yeah just wait until the knockout lol @@oldironsides4107
The best thing about this telecast was the story of Henry Tillman. Proving all the skeptics wrong, by twice defeating a teenager named Mike Tyson.
He captured the gold metal 4 miles from where he had grown up. That is a pretty amazing story for a guy who seemed destine for prison.
sinusbradycardia ironic enough that's what happened to him not too long after this fight for various crimes
You can have nothing but respect for George. Like seriously great man
The jab is the most effective punch a boxer can develop.
+jack mehoff especially if theres a sladgehammer in your glove!
***** Yeah...he used too. He would work behind it with his bob n weave. Short guys are better inside.
This HBO Championship Boxing theme was by far the best
It was a great production. Showtime's productions were terrible, however.
I remember watching this on HBO as a kid. We were all wanting to see a Tyson-Douglas rematch!
I notice that Larry wasn’t insulting to Big George’s face.
😢.
Jokes always been on me, the merchant.
i feel old
+Dee Ledesma No. You're very pretty....;-)
Think how George feels now watching this lol
So does every one else in the video
I remember watching this at high school graduation party, he sure made a believer out of me !!
At the 31:10 mark Foreman says he hopes to meet the winner of the Tyson Tillman bout , that the public deserved to see a true heavyweight fight next . Both promoters King and Arum wanted the match as it was worth MEGA bucks . Only Tyson didn't and did everything to avoid it from happening . This is as close as Foreman would ever get to fighting Tyson , who knew style wise he had no chance against Foreman
pfitzger2e1 exactly
Tyson punked out against every great fighter
At the time I thought tyson would kill him
It’s hindsight inthink foreman stops tyson
@@oldironsides4107 I watch all these old Tyson fights cuz I love him but I believe that article I read. Basically after bummy Buster Douglas knocked him out, Tyson got crazy, and fully imagined Foreman could kill him (a distinct possibility, and closer to reality than the HBO commentators at the time.)
When Big George came back he was a man on a mission.....He was in his 40 fighting young men went the distance with a prime Holyfield and then at the age of,I believe 45 he became the oldest heavyweight champion in history...He is one of the greatest heavyweight fighters that ever lived..
Was awesome at 40 I think you could tell he was starting to decline every year after 40 though. I would have loved to have seen him at this age against Tyson or Holyfield to see if he could have competed at 40.
@@user-cj1tc8zi4e Big George in his prime would have knocked Mike Tyson out..Here is the reason why George was to big in strong Tyson being a short fighter would have had to work his way on the inside...And my his soul rest in peace like when Foreman fought Frazier...He would hit Tyson workig his way on the inside bum game over..And Holyfield oh my goodness it wouldn't have been a fight George would knock him out faster he was to big and strong.
@@jameshampton2899 Holyfield beat Foremans ass. You don’t know anything about boxing. Prime Tyson beats Foreman any day of the week
@@Khaled4life you're wrong about tyson. Tyson fought like Frazier. Frazier was an all timer but we saw how it went
WHATS WITH THE VIDEO ITS KIND OF FREEZING?
Tyson-Tillman and Foreman-Rodrigues happened on Roberto Duran’s 39th birthday!
I wish hbo still televised wcb on other nights besides Saturday's
Toni Henry Look what it's come to now.
I wonder what Merchant would make of the physique of Andy Ruiz and Tyson Fury.
George looks in shape next to them.
What a night for HBO, two of the heaviest hitters ever headlining the night. This goes to show how long these 2 fights go back, this is when Mike tyson and George foreman was still boxing professionally.
And both would go on to regain the world title
Larry Merchant had no chill. Dropping bombs against Foreman. He did it with everyone haha
Mayweather Jr. got his azz though 😆😆🤣🤣🤣.
Great to see the entire show of these fights! Thanx for posting!
10:55 Look at the physical condition of Foreman. The guy was a monster. If Foreman and Tyson had collided around that time I'm not sure it ends well..... for Tyson.
Nobody hit harder than Foreman and nobody could take a punch like Foreman.
Tyson would have been too illusive for foreman the only style I can see Tyson losing to is a Muhammad Ali style where you stay on the outside... and what Lennox did in regards to backing up and throwing upper cuts
@@adjustdafacts uppercuts we’re Forman’s bread and butter
@@adjustdafacts Tyson was no longer being trained by Rooney at this point. D'Amato/Rooney-trained Tyson was elusive. Post-Spinks fight Tyson was not.
Tyson would destroy foreman first round, evander ducked tyson and fought foreman instead. Also foreman said tyson destroy him few secs
@@Ehrle6969that’s not true at all Holyfield wanted to fight Tyson then he went prison don’t try it foreman uppercut would kill Tyson casual 😊
Tyson’s winning punch looked like a kid bopping a chuck e cheese gopher on the head.
Larry Merchant was very dismissive of George during this period of the comeback. Then again, most media was right up until the moment he knocked Moorer out.
America's Free Market Doctor - Dr. Tommy McElroy can you imagine Larry today he would be so fucked lol. Just openly calling him a fat man ppl would lose it 🤣Larry such a dick I did love him calling out Floyd tho that’s classic
For good reason: George handpicked his opponents and avoided any fighter with even a semblance of a heartbeat. George wasn't interested in fighting anyone who could actually fight -- unless it were for a big-money title shot. And George "earned" his title shot against Holyfield by basically beating a bunch of tomato cans. And against Moorer, he was gifted the title shot; his last fight prior to Moorer was a loss against Tommy Morrison (15 months prior). Merchant was accurate in his criticisms.
What are you talking about Anthony? George beat Dwight Qawi and Rodriguez here who was ranked #3. Not every fight for a heavyweight contender has to fight against a big fighter every time
@@AnthonyJ74 Tommy ran from George though. And Merchant shouldn´t critizise George for getting the chance against Moorer. It was way above Georges head, and Moorer wanted one easy big payday. It was easy for 9 rounds i guess.
George was a lot better fighter at 38 than 45. I wish he had fought Holyfield at 38 to see if the outcome would have been any different than at 41. Although Holyfield had a legit chin so I don't think comeback George would have won a decision even at 38 would have had to have knocked him out.
I remember the days we couldn't watch this unless we paid for HBO! You younglings have no idea 💡
Chuck Hull… Jim Lampley…. Larry Merchant… Sugar Ray…. Man these were great times
Absolutely love the fights that you provide for our entertainment. But why o why do these videos always skip and stutter?? Makes them a little frustrating to watch
That's such a cool venue, perfect for boxing. Love these outdoor venues.
29:29 - Foreman's interview is so nice!
''Nothings important in life. Wealth?...The only thing that's important is health....everything else is just an addition'
Once in a lifetime card with Foreman and Tyson on it👍
loving your channel. love these full episode shows.
I remember watching these 2 fights live on Sky, before they brought in PPV in the UK.
Those were the days. Its gone ppv crazy these days!
This was just an hbo broadcast.
Did sky show hbo fights?
I suppose Sky must have taken HBO's 'feed' as they call it. But it was Sky's commentators. I remember they had Tyson v Stewart live later that year as well. PPV didn't come into the UK till Tyson v Bruno 2 in 96!
Tyson's last fight before his prison stretch was a very tough decision over Razor Ruddock. In this fight although he fought bravely, Tyson was exhibiting signs of decline. The great footwork, head movement, and punch combinations were clearly not as sharp. Mike himself has stated many times that his prime ended that night in Tokyo. After taking a beating from Holyfield and losing his titles again, making money became his sole incentive.
Actually he fought Alex Stewart in December of 1990 before prison.
@@davidmaez7253 he fought the Ruddock fights after Stewart.
@@davidmaez7253 Ruddock fights were in early 1991.
Your right. Ruddock wasn't 50% of Foreman. George knew how to box, used both hands, had a power jab. I think that version of Tyson loses to Big George circa 1991-92
Look at the grimace on then L.A. Raiders head coach Art Shell at 26:16. Rough way to make a living lol! Foreman immediately proved Lampley's point with that clubbing left hook that put Rodrigues out of his misery.
I love watching these, thank you for uploading. Why is it bad playback? is it part of your transfer process?
The night I was born...I think I was born around 10:15 ET so this is probably the same exact time...so cool gotta get that poster. Loved Tyson since I was a kid.....would love to see a fight at this venue today or Caesar’s in general really sucks thanks a lot Stephen Paddock
I WAS 6 YEARS OLD BACK THEN!!
Holyfield already looked like the champion.
He sure did.
If this Tyson fought Holyfield or Lewis, history would be telling a very different story
Tyson ducked Lewis in 1996. Facts!
263lbs but that weight solid.
Exactly.
That was Georges most impressive look at that weight.
Arum and King had Tyson and Foreman on same card and didn't have them fight each other instead lol, it would've been a spectacle to see and broken ppv records.
Personally, I love George Foreman 🥊💥✨
I remember HBO was not happy Foreman was fighting a ranked heavyweight and Tyson an unranked cruiserweight but Renaldo Snipes was the original opponent for Tyson a tuneup but kept pricing himself out and Tillman filled in .Snipes blew 2 other shots the second doubleheader was canceled and then Snipes broke his hand and out 2 years.
No Rooney no Iron
Sorry Mike
Tyson wisely never met Forman. Would be easy breakfast for big George.
If you think an old, out of shape Foreman would have stood a chance against a young, prime Tyson, you're clueless.
Foreman kills Tyson
@@melvynsngltn27 foreman disagrees kid
@@Ehrle6969 Don King admitted Tyson was afraid of Foreman. Tyson avoided tough fighter's his entire career
@@melvynsngltn27 don Lied all the time, foreman was affraif of Tyson he even said it. Tyson ducked noone since he had nothing to do who He fights. But evander ducked Tyson after he got the belts from Douglas. Same did Lewis for years, after prison both had balls to fight tyson kid.
is this a PowerPoint boxing match?
Tyson ducked Big George, literally confirmed that he feared the Old Man
Even Old Man George backed everyone up he fought so it would have been interesting to see a 38 year old George against Mike who was known for attacking.
Who was 38? George was already 42 and HE is the one that confirmed in interviews through the years HE wanted no part of Mike
@@joshuacrawford3491 Foreman is one of the most humblest people since he saw his light. i don’t buy that for a second. Foreman could’ve easily taken Iron....
@@joshuacrawford3491 He says over and over and over he can KO Tyson. the reason he came back in the first place. 5'10 217 lb fighter like Mike Tyson and Joe Frazier was no match for 6'4" 250 lb Foreman !!
Someone is obviously mad that we get to see this for free. The video starts not working at the best shots
Working Together Works! It’s amazing how in 2018 Don King’s dynamic vocabulary propels our society today! Only in America!
I worked for HBO Boxing back then under Ross Greenberg. Tyson and Foreman were to fight after this doubleheader he came back for that reason knowing Tyson hated Foremans style a pure stalker. Tyson demanded a second doubleheader he was to fight Renaldo Snipes the original opponent intended and Foreman Francesco Damiani who had the new WBO belt not recognized yet .But King refused to have Tyson fight Foreman if he had any belt and demanded Damiani be non title.Tyson was beltless and Foreman went ballistic that Tyson will never get in the ring with me and refused the second doubleheader.Foreman offered Tyson 2 more fights when with HBO and Tyson wanted no part of him .
What is the music played at 49:00 please ?
Larry Merchants words about Sonny Liston we're way too loose.
Too bad Douglas never granted Tyson a rematch.
Love you foreman love you Tyson both as young men and refined aged intelligent gentlemen.
Larry said it's the biggest scam in boxing history then interviews George and says what do you want to do next in this brilliant campaign of yours
Possible sarcasm
I honestly don't know anyone in boxing now days. And it is the internet age!
Them talking down on George wtf, he was in amazing shape in his comeback up until 91, you could see age catching up in 93 and 94. However, its George Foreman. He was able to beat up Shannon Briggs in 97 at 49
Is it just me... or does Larry Merchant seem to despise Foreman and just wants to just run his mouth and talk down about him? I've never seen Larry talk so nasty about someone.
Larry is a vindictive person. He spoke that way about Tyson, and even mayweather.
Yeah, but he is right. Those are highly paid athletes. Foreman did roadwork with a greecy bag of hamburgers and douglas grow to the unhealthy weight of 400lbs and fell into a diabetic coma. He is doing a bad job in terms of promoting these fights but that's not his job. He doesn't seem like a big fan either. He is not a boxing expert.laughing at his own jokes about dead dogs. He is a total mystery.
That was Merchant's style. Playing devil's advocate.
Yes, still taking shots at Sonny Liston too.
Mid June early evening, outside, Las Vegas....who wants to endure 100 degrees as a fan let alone a boxer? I guess that’s why we don’t see fights anymore at Caesar’s.
Why do people have to get old. I would give anything for this broadcast team for boxing matches today. I enjoy the showtime coverage today but Jim and Larry with whichever boxer analyst they had sugar ray, Roy, George....then you got Harold Lederman. I miss him saying the score and sending it back to jim so much
Tyson had a concussive punch that knocked opponents back and sent them flying. Not George. George’s shots just smashed his opponents down and flattened them.
Yo yo hold up!!! thank you sterling you got great content omg 😱
The level so low in the Tyson era, Forman felt he had to come back.
Level so low in Tysons era??? Tyson beat everyone in his era foreman where was foreman fighting and unifying the belts
@@vlLEGTxSQUADX how in anyway did tyson beat everyone in that era? Holyfield,bowe,witherspoon,Morrison,daminani he ducked them all and the best heavyweight in history lennox lewis did beat everyone,even retired by beating the best of the next generation,hell buster Douglas knocked tyson out an he was a bum
@@solidcake3401 douglas challenged for a wold title before he koed tyson so that doesnt make him a bum 😐😐 daminai was one of the worst hw champions ever and witherspoon lost to thomas and boencrusher smith who tyson beat the hell out off
@@vlLEGTxSQUADX Tyson beat scrubs
If foreman stayed 235 for his whole career he wouldve been better during his comeback he shouldve stayed out the Fridge
I love the HBO INTRO MUSIC! ! DO YOU HAVE THE FULL DOUGLAS VS HOLY FIELD PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE DAY BOWL DUMPED HIS WBC BELT IN THE TRASH?
What song did Mike come out to?
JJJ I don't know about this fight.its hard to hear.but the three fights after this one. Tyson came out to public enemy(welcome to the terrordome)
Larry Merchant talking shit about big Georges comeback....I bet he didnt have much to say when George regain the title a few years later...
They did a Ghostbusters sequel ?? I wanna see it because I always see the latest movies first. But, I haven't seen this. I hope Tyson fights Holyfield some day because that would be a great match-up.
The snake always eats the frog wtf 😂
big george at that weigh in looks massive!!! and to be fair considering hes 270lbs he looks solid size of his arms shoulders etc!!! if ya compare it to fury who also is 270lbs! foreman looks 300lbs atleast
foreman was only 41 you would think he was 65 listening these people. also foreman would of kod tyson within 4 rounds in 1990-91
41:58 Funny fact: Douglas said he was 242 lbs at the time of this interview before training…. His weight for the Holyfield fight was 246 … So after at least 8 weeks of training he gained 4 lbs 😂😂😂… I call bullshit 😂…
One that no-one ever mentions is how foreman bowe would have played out,I wonder.Would have been seen as a joke at the time but in retrospect,given how things played out🤷♂️
I get that people hate Floyd Mayweather Jr., I do I really do. I like him but I get it. That being said everyone should of appreciated him for telling Larry Merchant "you don't know shit about boxing". Larry is and was always a pompous ass
Is don king dead yet or what?
He's frozen until they find a cure.
For anyone saying Tyson was ducking Foreman, that makes no sense...Tyson was trying to regain the title, and he wanted a rematch witH Douglas, and Douglas obviously ducked Tyson until he retired the first time. Tyson ended up fighting a much more difficult fight with Razor Ruddock, and a rematch, and then went to prison for 3 years. Had he not gone to prison, I'm sure it would've been inevitable for Tyson-Foreman to fight. I just don't see the logic in Tyson wanting to avoid George Foreman, he is perfect for him. Foreman would be a huge underdog and would get KO'd and hurt very seriously.
Alvalanker Highwind Tyson was a bully and he folded every time someone stood up to him and thats a fact ! Even an old Foreman would batter tyson into oblivion
George would've battered tyson
Foreman 2.0 was as close to invulnerable to stoppage as any boxer has ever been, and still retained every bit of his former power. So that means 12 rounds for Foreman to land a right hand on Tyson, who was not known for his late round energy. Foreman by KO is guaranteed.
Douglas didn´t duck Tyson. Douglas had to defend the titles against the number one contender, and that was Holyfield.
@@drmikehockertz1965 are you the type of idiot that judges everything he doesn't know? how do you know tyson's a bully? by watching biased tv bullshit?
I've never seen tyson fold, not even when he was headbutted 15 times by a dirty holyroids. so fuck off
but I bet you'd fold and piss your pants if you met tyson
Tyson wrist and hands is alot bigger than foremans and his shoulders are also so idk how ppl think foreman is to strong for tyson
JJJ I don't know about this fight.its hard to hear.but the three fights after this one.tyson came out to public enemy (welcome to the terror dome)
Cause foreman was 6 inches taller an weighed 50lbs more an he was alot bigger an stronger lol holyfield was too much for tyson an he was just a roided up cruiserweight
@@solidcake3401 foreman was 235lbs so how is that 50lbs? Foreman was at least 15 lbs heavier at most
@@vlLEGTxSQUADX 235?? Foreman was 263 here, 257 against Holyfield and 250 when he knocked out Moorer, and when was wrist and hands important? Never ever heard of that in the history of this sport, sorry.
@@drumtum cause he didnt cut weight
I hope Larry Mechant apologized for his commentary on George Foreman. It was beyond criticism; it was mean and disrespectful. He had a whole lot of "crow" to eat when George defeated Michael Moorer. I love the story of George Foreman. He showe hope and perseverence...even in the wake of brutal critics.
Why did he not want Larry to interview him post fight ?
He was pissed at the criticism and harsh questions during the rebroadcast the following week of the Douglas fight. And part of the reason he left HBO for Showtime
Your video is skipping like it's a scratched DVD had to give it a thumbs down
No wonder Mike Tyson refused to fight Foreman lol
Foreman did not tyson lmao kid
Tyson fans is so hillarious. His prime was obvesiouly 90 seconds with Michael Spinks. Haha, Who did he actually beat? Can you ask the same question to Foreman?
Another person who don't know shit about boxing
Hbo shit on foreman his entire comeback.
Merchant’s hand on Buster’s shoulder during that interview was creepy asf.
what is the entering song of tyson?
Larry just laughs at thr "funny story" of Rodrigues biting, choking, killing, and shooting his own dog. Damn that's some cold shit.
Buster was lying! 242? + 15.
...and then some
Holyfield looked like a only 200 pounder. i Think he is around 205 here.. other fighters cut weight when they enter training camp.. they cut around 20 -30 lbs , Evander in his youger Days up till 1992 was Always around 205-210, even in his off season
buster looking around 255 here
Buster was a big fat pig here
Christ George hit hard I could tell the whole fight that exact result was coming you could tell he was just waiting to kill the dude who couldn’t even hurt him
Don King...snake
You're being too nice calling him a snake
Larry Merchant was a putz. 😆
George Foreman proved that he wasn't just "The hungriest."
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