William Guthrie said something that i had never heard in that way. If you visit a man's home and you never see his family smiling and happy, you never trust that man. That makes so much sense to me.
I'm a real boxing fan from the 80s till now and this documentary has given me a timely reminder of why so many obvious boxing matches take so long to be made or are never made. Also, it explains why I have seen some 'name' boxers lose a fight to a lesser-known boxer but win according to the judges. An investigation needs to be done into boxing and UFC judges in my humble opinion.
Here's proven again that professional boxing is the red-light district of sports, and that it's a chess game between managers and promoters, and that boxers are the pawns.
@@justaguy328 Really? A whole lot of them complained a real lot about it: Jack Johnson Joe Louis Sonny Liston Muhammad Ali Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and so on. These were just a few heavyweights who were the most successful, had the right managers, but compliant like hell about how things were regulated. You probably don't wanna know what the majority, the lesser name boxers, with the wrong mangers, have to say....
Well recommended boxing documentary narrated by Keith David who later narrated some WWE documentaries like The History Of The World Heavyweight Championship; The True Story Of WrestleMania; The History Of WWE: 50 Years Of Sports Entertainment and also WWE Network docuseries The Monday Night War
I remember watching this Doc many years ago. It’s evident that Floyd is to be admired for his business acumen. He did all of this in house and became the fighter and manager with Al Hayman.
Floyd learned everything he needed to know bc of Floyd Sr & his Uncle Roger.! Floyd's whole family was in the sport of boxing, had Floyd not grew up with his family's influence & knowledge of the sport Floyd would have been took advantage of by greedy promoters & companies. Floyd's knowledge of the sport is the main reason why he was hated so much.
Pay the trainer 10%, the manager 10%+ (conservative) , the promoter 30%+, sanction fee 3% plus other fees etc plus uncle sam! Boxers are getting truly shafted!!!!
Dont forget strength & conditioning coach, hospital fees, nutrition/chef, sparring partners, camp fees probably in some legal battle thorough out your career As the famous quote goes Boxing is the only sport you can get your brain shook, your money took and your name in the undertaker book - smoking joe
No diff than any business, which involves multiple ppl. They gotta pay low level workers (3%), experienced/tenured workers (10%), and foreman(30%). They also have to pay workman’s comp, which boxers don’t, as well as related expenses, such as utilities, rent/mortgage, etc.
I absolutely love the voice over from this narrator hes does the history of country and western etc on pbs such a relaxing voice looking forward to this
@undertakerfanz628 I guess smart people don't exist then. I'm just as smart as Don but your mother had to burn down the school to get you out of 3rd grade🤣🤣🤣
Yes I've just googled it out of curiosity. Kushner died 29 th January 2015, aged 66 therefore he was only 52-53 during the promotion of both Lewis fights
Boxing died when pay per view was born. Gone are the days of international greats like Duran, Azumah Nelson, Arguello, Lennox Lewis, Pacquiao, Hamed, Gomez, Kostya Tszyu among many others. It became a monopolized pay per view business for American and Mexican fighters. It’s never going back to what it was until they do away with pay per view at least outside of the heavyweight division.
@@eljanrimsa5843Replacing a regular soda with a soda with sucralose and other sweeteners will only make you lose weight. You lose weight because you’re replacing all of the liquid calories from sugar, it’s not that hard to figure out. I lost 25 pounds simply just switching to zero sugar sodas.
@@robertmorin6495 By comparing people who drink diet coke with people who don't drink diet coke, all other things being equal. Studies show a correlation with gaining weight, especially in people who want to lose weight. The causative mechanism is not known for sure, but some research suggests that your brain reacts to artificial sweeteners much like it does to sugary sweets. Ingesting them frequently may increase your desire for high-calorie foods, putting you at a greater risk of weight gain.
Me too.... Boxing could be one of the best Rated & viewed in the world but it's not do the mass Corruption, cheating & destruction of certain fighter's and nowdays it's soo blunt they don't try to hide it anymore..... Cheaters like canelo gets away with using STERIODS and other P.E.D'S getting a slap on the wrist while others get lifetime bannfff😊
This was a very well-done documentary from start to finish. It sheds light on the "behind-the-scenes" machinations of prize fighting. My heart is always with those who muster the fortitude to step into the ring to risk their lives for our entertainment, a questionable yet admirable endeavour. Regardless of how we interpret them, Promoters - possibly the human equivalent of vultures waiting for prey - play an enormous role in making fights happen at each and every level of the fight game. Still, Promoters seem to prey on the emotional yet lucrative aspect of boxing to make millions for boxers and themselves. One thing I protest against is having Don King's sole image on the face of this documentary. If we are to believe the details of this documentary, Bob Arum and Cedric Kushner are as equally culpable. The Face of this documentary - along with Don King - should include the images of Bob Arum and Cedric Kushner.
Cedric & Bob maybe complicit, but only cause they’re forced to, by the IBF, which is controlled by Lee & King. It’s like Cedric stated, no diff than a shop in the Bronx being strong armed to pay for protection.
They don't do this "for our entertainment". Just FYI. NO ONE starts boxing becusee they want to entertain fans. They box because they want to box. Not to entertain anyone.
Excellent documentary! Made some very eye opening points. I Also disagree with the gentleman that stated boxing didn’t need the government involved “ but In my humble opinion it’s necessary ,because these guys had no protection they got robbed while everyone else but the boxer got paid I mean down to the hotels and casinos! Travesty!!smh
The problems are many in professional boxing, but these 8 points here are some of them: 1. Rival networks (HBO, Showtime, PBC, Sky Sports, ESPN, DAZN etc.) not able to co-op with each-other better brings signed boxers down from best possible matches. Also the viwers lose out as they are forced to pay for additional broadcast services... 2. The insane PPV costs! ex. Tyson Fury vs. Francis Nganno in a non-title bout to add demanded $80 per viewing (!) you can't demand such outreagus prices and still expect people to support it. 3. To many boxing organisations rule with the WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO and it gets boxing not only more complicated for the audience to determ who is THE champion but also difficult to the best boxers to prove that as well as they all have there own ratings/rankings that can both include and exclude certain boxers in each division from entering there ranks. Ex. take Mike Tyson as shown before. He could be WBC 1# = next in line for a title shot, but being ranked 5# by the WBA, 7# by the IBF and non-ranked by WBO (?) how is that dependble rating system for the casual boxing fans to understand as even invested fans have a hard time getting it. Paying for the rankings is BS as such recognition should always be EARNED by winning fights and more so to important fights. 4. It should never be allowed to have promotors and managers interfere with the ratings in any weight class of boxing. They should follow them as all else and accept what they can get. 5. A promotor should not be allowed to have several listed boxers of same weight division die to the risk of having fixed matches and corruption involved + risks of favouritism contra neglecting others among the most important problems 6. To difficult with unifying champions to become UNDISPUTED champion. That should always be the 1# importance and bu that allowing all champions to do that with-out any rejections. 7. The organisations must Put on more pressure of recognised champions to make 2-3 fights a year in order to remain champions (excluding well documented injuries from doctors) where 1 mandatory is fought, one top 5# is fought and then one 10-15# ranked is fought evrey year. Having fighters like Tyson Fury lump around holding his WBC title, but never fighting any top rated opposition since 1.5 year back and still be allowed to be champion is plain out wrong. 8. Pay the trainer 10% + the manager 10%+ (conservative) + the promoter 30% + sanction fee 3% plus and other fees etc plus uncle sam taxes! Boxers are getting truly shafted and there must be regulations done here. Ex why should the promotir earn 30% when that person is doing the least work for the boxer involved?
Even with that said, boxing still has its frank warrens and others…. Wrestling, all the same, the promoter is the man who makes the money, he makes these unknown people into global superstars, he’s the guy matchmaking them for the big pay days! Who else is going to pay them what they make? Do you think there is a batter option? As bad as you may see mr White being by exploiting the fighters, re,ember he’s also the guy who offered a deal which the fighter signed, if they could make more anywhere else then that’s where they would be…. You can blame white for making money in his business thats what business is, he has vested his time and money in making the ufc the industry it is and deserves what he makes for doing so.
Dana White is so underrated because he can't even openly talk about the world he came up thru. His quote about boxing. It a going out of business sales every time
With all the money that can be made today, and I can’t blame them boxers want to keep their marketability going as long as possible therefore, it is in their best interest to not meet the guy who has the best chance of winning. Eventually, if he is champion, long enough, they might meet however, it is usually past the point of when it would have been the best fight for the public.
Its about 40 years past due. Mr kings circus from the 1980s has destroyed boxing in america, health concerns are the least of american boxings problems wait tell they get into fixed fights and money trails. Tyson fury being banned from the usa is revenge for not being vegas "DO BOY". Oh mike would not fight holy field or lennox in his prime because Don knew lennox would not be controlled as mike was. The kingdom runs the show now-good.
Unfortunately you are a minute late and a $1 short because the corruption is from the beginning of the sport but in the 80s was a new King that took the corruption to a new level and he was the only King and they didn't like it but again was a minute late and a $ short.
I love how the reporter stumped Rachman when she said “just months ago you were fighting for $18,000 and now your quibbling over millions”.. he couldn’t even conjure up the right words to justify his actions 😂
Well he's not alive no more anyway so what are you going to do sue him? As a vet in life you can't be that bright to join the military anyway! What good has any military ever done in the history of humanity? Don't give me all the brainwashed fabricated BS they gave you to join, give me just ONE piece of truth that shows the good for humanity in militaries? Go on...Colonel Guile! Sheridan, is known as the Colonel because of his rank in the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company of Massachusetts, he has called ringside action from more than 100 countries, over 10k fights! What exactly have you done that was so great again?
Some southern States allow the Governor of that State to confer the title "Colonel" on a person who lives in that State (or gave a big chunk of money to get the Governor elected). It's an honorary thing.
You got it wrong because Fury didn't gain anything and lost a lot as it is. Watch it a few more times you will understand that against Francis wasn't the case.
Francis didn't get robbed in that fight. He exceeded expectations true but wasn't robbed. If you want to see a very obvious robbery at a level bigger than the Fury fight watch Pacquiao vs Bradley. Pacquiao took Bradley to school and was straight up robbed. Nobody had Bradley winning that fight. No experts trainers nobody but those judges. How that fight wasn't investigated I'll never know but there's def fights on a major level that stink. Even MMA has problems with it
My Dad was British welterweight champion in 1986, 87, 88 My uncle Errol was The biggest prospect in British boxing history, I asked my Dad why he never never Supported me in sports as I was a champion from an early age achieving in athletics, football, but more so than anything a fighter a, and he said simply "Too many gangsters".
The definition of counting your Chickens before they hatch. Cedric Kushner was rubbing his grubby greasy hands at the 000000's he was going to make off Rahman. And made none. LMAO. That was quite legendary to see his face whilst the rug was pulled from under him. Which must of been bit of a feat to do that. I wonder where he is now ? EDIT: Yeeeeeeah he's Dead.
KING PLAYED RAHAM FOR A FOOL,ROBBED HIM,AND HUNG HIM OUT TOO DRY,LIKE HE DID ALL HIS FIGHTERS, WHO WERE ALL STUPID ENOUGH TOO FALL FOR THE RACE CARD,AND ALL ENDED UP BROKE,ITS CALLED CARMA,IN THE END,THEY ALL DERSERVE EACH OTHER
It could of being fair documentary if the other characters were equally asked, and followed as to who and why they did what they did, and thierJourneys as M.R kushner.
He says "the sport of boxing is what I love" but then "the business of boxing is what I hate"....truer words were never spoken! Promoters are like Mob bosses...one step from jail or an indictment.
"FBI Sting On Pro Boxing?" Ya, that's about five minutes of this 1 1/2-hour "documentary." May as well have called it "Fat Guys Talking" because it would have been more accurate.
17:47 Something tells me that the whole reason this guys fighter got the championship belt is because he : Said & did *EXACTLY* what needed to be said and done ! - ( to protect everyone involved at the true core, deceive the investigation, & obscure the real truth behind the corruption !!! ) - This was his *”Reward”* for being a “good boy” !¡!
That is why that fight or tyson lewis never happened in the 80s--because Don knew what would happen and you can Bet your azz holyfield knew, because sparring in the olympics told the tale.
Typical that alllll the corruption in boxing beaver agreed to take down Lee which is nothing new of the black man taking the fall. Still going on this day in boxing smh
William Guthrie said something that i had never heard in that way. If you visit a man's home and you never see his family smiling and happy, you never trust that man. That makes so much sense to me.
Him impersonation of Don King was hilarious.
Yeah that statement was deep
King should be ashamed of his self
What if the guy showed up unannounced and ruined some plans
he said DK wasn’t smiling as kids were playing
Chocolate imitation of Don King had me laughing tears out😂😂.
Because he's so soft spoken, it made the impersonation funnier.
I'm a real boxing fan from the 80s till now and this documentary has given me a timely reminder of why so many obvious boxing matches take so long to be made or are never made. Also, it explains why I have seen some 'name' boxers lose a fight to a lesser-known boxer but win according to the judges. An investigation needs to be done into boxing and UFC judges in my humble opinion.
Ufc judgements where wins are concerned are a lot more accurate than boxing
@@MashamillionsOverall I definitely do agree with you but over the years I have seen a few bad UFC points decisions.
@@davidt8381there's been alot of boxing and mma fights that have been scored wrong
Completly rigged and scripted
mayweather is the next promoter to corrupt the boxing areana
Here's proven again that professional boxing is the red-light district of sports, and that it's a chess game between managers and promoters, and that boxers are the pawns.
Ahh shut up. Boxers love this sport.
@@justaguy328 Really? A whole lot of them complained a real lot about it: Jack Johnson Joe Louis Sonny Liston Muhammad Ali Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and so on. These were just a few heavyweights who were the most successful, had the right managers, but compliant like hell about how things were regulated. You probably don't wanna know what the majority, the lesser name boxers, with the wrong mangers, have to say....
@@justaguy328 They love boxing, but think of all the stuff that comes with it, that they didn't sign up for, I'm sure they don't love that.
this is a good doc. had to subscribe !!!
Well recommended boxing documentary narrated by Keith David who later narrated some WWE documentaries like The History Of The World Heavyweight Championship; The True Story Of WrestleMania; The History Of WWE: 50 Years Of Sports Entertainment and also WWE Network docuseries The Monday Night War
Amazing documentary 👏 so glad i came across this channel, subscribed.
I remember watching this Doc many years ago. It’s evident that Floyd is to be admired for his business acumen. He did all of this in house and became the fighter and manager with Al Hayman.
yup he always said the goal is to be a prize fighter ..promote yourself for your PPV bouts
Floyd learned everything he needed to know bc of Floyd Sr & his Uncle Roger.! Floyd's whole family was in the sport of boxing, had Floyd not grew up with his family's influence & knowledge of the sport Floyd would have been took advantage of by greedy promoters & companies. Floyd's knowledge of the sport is the main reason why he was hated so much.
can someone tell me where the rest of the full footage is? because there was a splice at 43:12 what happened there?
This is an awesome doc. Right up my alley. Thank you. Gold entertainment ✔️
21:00 Ja Rule ?
Pay the trainer 10%, the manager 10%+ (conservative) , the promoter 30%+, sanction fee 3% plus other fees etc plus uncle sam! Boxers are getting truly shafted!!!!
Dont forget strength & conditioning coach, hospital fees, nutrition/chef, sparring partners, camp fees
probably in some legal battle thorough out your career
As the famous quote goes
Boxing is the only sport you can get your brain shook, your money took and your name in the undertaker book
- smoking joe
No diff than any business, which involves multiple ppl. They gotta pay low level workers (3%), experienced/tenured workers (10%), and foreman(30%). They also have to pay workman’s comp, which boxers don’t, as well as related expenses, such as utilities, rent/mortgage, etc.
And from your list the government stealing is still the worst. LOL
@@randyc8406 True. I think the reason why boxers end up broke is because they never learn how to manage their money.
Promoters pay the fighters not the other way around that you stated.
Wow...that Kushner
Guy sure breaks into a sweat eating breakfast .
😂😂😂😂
Jokes on all of us. Don King was an informant for the FBI from the 60s forward.
truth
& Al Sharpton
Can you explain where you got that information? I’ve read every book that watch documentaries on this guy I haven’t seen that anywhere.
This channel is so gooood
🚬👴🏿🥃 IS THIS CHANNEL NBC I WANNA WATCH JOHNNY CARSON
Don King has exploited so many boxers it's obscene.
Bob Arum is still doing it King has been gone for a minute King a lest made the fights we wanted
@@tonyamartin1425 king was the reason we got so few good fights. He was a plague in boxing.
Alexis Arquello vs Pryor puro drugs
He's going to hell.
well you better hurry up and get there to watch all the good fights before Bob Arum gets there and kills the game@@midnight5958
I'm stunned Don king is still alive, like no one has killed him yet..it's crazy the way he's ripped everyone off and still breathing .lol..
Mike Tyson nearly killed him.
I was thinking the same thing. He put a lot of people situations where they had nothing to lose.
🚬👴🏿🥃 HE AFRICAN AMERICAN DATS WHY
@@ricardocantoral7672🚬👴🏿🥃 THEY WERE PLAYING WITH CURTIS ROCK HEAD SLIWAS CATS
@@josron6088🚬👴🏿🥃 DONT BELIEVE WHAT U READ.
I absolutely love the voice over from this narrator hes does the history of country and western etc on pbs such a relaxing voice looking forward to this
Don king is the biggest crook in the history of boxing
He looks like he could be a batman villain xD
Not more than the MOB. 28:00 mark sums it up
@@napoleonarmstrong3648 smart people don't have to edit their comments
@undertakerfanz628 I guess smart people don't exist then. I'm just as smart as Don but your mother had to burn down the school to get you out of 3rd grade🤣🤣🤣
I get heart pains just looking at Kushner,he has that look of someone who could have a heart attack at any moment
Yet he gets that stomach bypass surgery what ever it’s called, loses all the weight and has his heart attack and dies 66 anyway
Yes I've just googled it out of curiosity. Kushner died 29 th January 2015, aged 66 therefore he was only 52-53 during the promotion of both Lewis fights
This is no exaggeration, my last boss was a lighter version Cedric Kushner, but still, a Cedric Kushner at heart.
👴🏻 I LOVE ❤️ TO EAT
one of the best i have seen
Superb Documentary…Great Job!
Boxing died when pay per view was born. Gone are the days of international greats like Duran, Azumah Nelson, Arguello, Lennox Lewis, Pacquiao, Hamed, Gomez, Kostya Tszyu among many others. It became a monopolized pay per view business for American and Mexican fighters. It’s never going back to what it was until they do away with pay per view at least outside of the heavyweight division.
Sadly, it won't happen. Too much bread being made.
🚬👴🏿🥃 MMA IS BETTER ANYWAY, BOXING ALWAY SUCKED
@@ricardocantoral7672🚬👴🏿🥃 I LOVE BREAD AND BUTTER 1964 SONG
Great documentary! Thank you!
Keith Davis is a good narrator for films
🚬👴🏿🥃 YEAH , HE PLAYED UNCLE BILL ON FAMILY AFFAIR 1966 ABC TV 📺
Voice of spawn!!
*Keith David.
(Isn't it?)
My grandfather was a professional boxer from 1957-73 bantam weight they took everything from him
cause he was obviously a dumbass.
The irony of Cedric drinking a diet coke
Diet coke is associated with increasing weight, especially for people who are already obese.
👴🏻 IM 900 POUNDS
@@eljanrimsa5843Replacing a regular soda with a soda with sucralose and other sweeteners will only make you lose weight. You lose weight because you’re replacing all of the liquid calories from sugar, it’s not that hard to figure out. I lost 25 pounds simply just switching to zero sugar sodas.
@@eljanrimsa5843 How can something with zero calories be associated with gaining weight?
@@robertmorin6495 By comparing people who drink diet coke with people who don't drink diet coke, all other things being equal. Studies show a correlation with gaining weight, especially in people who want to lose weight. The causative mechanism is not known for sure, but some research suggests that your brain reacts to artificial sweeteners much like it does to sugary sweets. Ingesting them frequently may increase your desire for high-calorie foods, putting you at a greater risk of weight gain.
Very well done documentary so I am thankful. That said, interstingly, sadly or comedically, none of this is surprising.
"Hey Ross how're you doing? He walked in into Stan's room 17 secs ago, left leg first "
😂😂😂
1:09:52 - 1:09:59
Boxing has always been a dirty business.
🚬👴🏿🥃SOOO HOW OLD IS U 900?
now we have Eddie Hearn and Al Haymon and a fading Oscar De La Hoya
I wish there was a part 2
Yes I too wish there was a detailed behind the scenes up to date documentary on boxing.
@@davidt8381chicago explosion of street gangs
Rahman losses next 4 fights in a row after signing with Don King, karma ate his ass.
Me too.... Boxing could be one of the best Rated & viewed in the world but it's not do the mass Corruption, cheating & destruction of certain fighter's and nowdays it's soo blunt they don't try to hide it anymore..... Cheaters like canelo gets away with using STERIODS and other P.E.D'S getting a slap on the wrist while others get lifetime bannfff😊
This was a very well-done documentary from start to finish. It sheds light on the "behind-the-scenes" machinations of prize fighting. My heart is always with those who muster the fortitude to step into the ring to risk their lives for our entertainment, a questionable yet admirable endeavour.
Regardless of how we interpret them, Promoters - possibly the human equivalent of vultures waiting for prey - play an enormous role in making fights happen at each and every level of the fight game. Still, Promoters seem to prey on the emotional yet lucrative aspect of boxing to make millions for boxers and themselves.
One thing I protest against is having Don King's sole image on the face of this documentary. If we are to believe the details of this documentary, Bob Arum and Cedric Kushner are as equally culpable. The Face of this documentary - along with Don King - should include the images of Bob Arum and Cedric Kushner.
now we have Eddie Hearn and Al Haymon and a fading Oscar De La Hoya
Is it cuz I is black?
can someone tell me where the rest of the full footage is? because there was a splice at 43:12 what happened there?
Cedric & Bob maybe complicit, but only cause they’re forced to, by the IBF, which is controlled by Lee & King. It’s like Cedric stated, no diff than a shop in the Bronx being strong armed to pay for protection.
They don't do this "for our entertainment". Just FYI. NO ONE starts boxing becusee they want to entertain fans. They box because they want to box. Not to entertain anyone.
Saat itu rahman the rock Tumbangkan lewis the lion dengan mengejutkan..koran2..tv..menyiarkannya benar2 Nostalgia..22 tahun lalu..
Regarding Joe Louis, that was not a matter of greedy promoters. That was the IRS that ultimately screwed him over.
Chocolate dose a fuckin spot on King impression 😂😂😂
When was this made also Shout to Keith David
Excellent documentary! Made some very eye opening points. I Also disagree with the gentleman that stated boxing didn’t need the government involved “ but In my humble opinion it’s necessary ,because these guys had no protection they got robbed while everyone else but the boxer got paid I mean down to the hotels and casinos! Travesty!!smh
19:30 Kefauver Committee
Chocolates impression of Don King is spot on!!!
😂.....He got horns under his hair !!!!!
We have turned into savage beasts. I was gonna say animals, but I respect animals. Please LORD, save us from ourselves.
The problems are many in professional boxing, but these 8 points here are some of them:
1. Rival networks (HBO, Showtime, PBC, Sky Sports, ESPN, DAZN etc.) not able to co-op with each-other better brings signed boxers down from best possible matches. Also the viwers lose out as they are forced to pay for additional broadcast services...
2. The insane PPV costs! ex. Tyson Fury vs. Francis Nganno in a non-title bout to add demanded $80 per viewing (!) you can't demand such outreagus prices and still expect people to support it.
3. To many boxing organisations rule with the WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO and it gets boxing not only more complicated for the audience to determ who is THE champion but also difficult to the best boxers to prove that as well as they all have there own ratings/rankings that can both include and exclude certain boxers in each division from entering there ranks. Ex. take Mike Tyson as shown before. He could be WBC 1# = next in line for a title shot, but being ranked 5# by the WBA, 7# by the IBF and non-ranked by WBO (?) how is that dependble rating system for the casual boxing fans to understand as even invested fans have a hard time getting it.
Paying for the rankings is BS as such recognition should always be EARNED by winning fights and more so to important fights.
4. It should never be allowed to have promotors and managers interfere with the ratings in any weight class of boxing. They should follow them as all else and accept what they can get.
5. A promotor should not be allowed to have several listed boxers of same weight division die to the risk of having fixed matches and corruption involved + risks of favouritism contra neglecting others among the most important problems
6. To difficult with unifying champions to become UNDISPUTED champion. That should always be the 1# importance and bu that allowing all champions to do that with-out any rejections.
7. The organisations must Put on more pressure of recognised champions to make 2-3 fights a year in order to remain champions (excluding well documented injuries from doctors) where 1 mandatory is fought, one top 5# is fought and then one 10-15# ranked
is fought evrey year. Having fighters like Tyson Fury lump around holding his WBC title, but never fighting any top rated opposition since 1.5 year back and still be allowed to be champion is plain out wrong.
8. Pay the trainer 10% + the manager 10%+ (conservative) + the promoter 30% + sanction fee 3% plus
and other fees etc plus uncle sam taxes! Boxers are getting truly shafted and there must be regulations done here. Ex why should the promotir earn 30% when that person is doing the least work for the boxer involved?
Wariosaysso - I agree with what you wrote 100%.
@@davidt8381 Amen !!!!
📠📠📠
exactly why Jake Paul bringing in Milllions is astonishing .. and he lost to the only real boxer he faced
@@757millionaire Yeah that is really absurd.
Boxing is a great sport, the business side of it is red 🚨 district
Kushner's daily walk? This guy does not look like he walks daily. He's huge!
I gave up watching boxing forty years ago for the same reason I gave up watching Pro wrestling. I wouldn't gamble on either one for the same reason.
well I know why no one cares about your opinion no one betts on pro wrestling and no one older than 5 thinks it's real. this comment is very odd
UFC's Dana White is the modern day MMA iteration of these ruthless greedy promoters ripping off fighters and making himself filthy rich
It's a voluntary and consensual, agreement/relationship. Facts. Leave your emotions at your mothers house.
🚬👴🏿🥃 PROVE IT
@@jwhite1016aol sheep
Hopefully the anti trust lawsuit change things
Even with that said, boxing still has its frank warrens and others…. Wrestling, all the same, the promoter is the man who makes the money, he makes these unknown people into global superstars, he’s the guy matchmaking them for the big pay days!
Who else is going to pay them what they make?
Do you think there is a batter option?
As bad as you may see mr White being by exploiting the fighters, re,ember he’s also the guy who offered a deal which the fighter signed, if they could make more anywhere else then that’s where they would be…. You can blame white for making money in his business thats what business is, he has vested his time and money in making the ufc the industry it is and deserves what he makes for doing so.
Dana White is so underrated because he can't even openly talk about the world he came up thru.
His quote about boxing.
It a going out of business sales every time
Job well done this is thruth!
The heavy guy with the mustache looks like the guy in Monte Python Meaning of Life..... "Better get a bucket. Im gonna throw up"
This is like the Roman empire when they have the coliseum that put people to fight for death and animals.
Once the consumer sees how the sausage is actually made, personally, I no longer have a taste for pork, period.
Great Doc🎉🎉
The narrators voice brought me here
KEITH DAVID son
we can only imagine the dark side of pro boxing from its inception to now...
would we really wanna know... 😒🤔
As far as I'm concerned, boxing is about as exciting as watching paint dry in slow motion, but man was this documentary enjoyable
With all the money that can be made today, and I can’t blame them boxers want to keep their marketability going as long as possible therefore, it is in their best interest to not meet the guy who has the best chance of winning. Eventually, if he is champion, long enough, they might meet however, it is usually past the point of when it would have been the best fight for the public.
Love how they play the clip of don king laughing throughout the doc.
😂 cause Big D spent most his life hustling legit 💪💥🤙 league of his own
damn it. why are the Schulz-Foreman parts cut out? Wtf?
I saw that fight and I love Foreman but he lost that fight to Schultz.
Nice piece of boxing 🥊 history.. 👍
Rahman was disloyal. He couldn't even look straight. That's why he got knocked t.f. out in the rematch.
Boxing needs to be regulated
Amazed at DK cheerleaders accepting dis-loyalty as if it were business as usual.
Its about 40 years past due. Mr kings circus from the 1980s has destroyed boxing in america, health concerns are the least of american boxings problems wait tell they get into fixed fights and money trails. Tyson fury being banned from the usa is revenge for not being vegas "DO BOY". Oh mike would not fight holy field or lennox in his prime because Don knew lennox would not be controlled as mike was. The kingdom runs the show now-good.
Unfortunately you are a minute late and a $1 short because the corruption is from the beginning of the sport but in the 80s was a new King that took the corruption to a new level and he was the only King and they didn't like it but again was a minute late and a $ short.
How did u get the Gangland narrator to do this n where can i hire him?
I love how the reporter stumped Rachman when she said “just months ago you were fighting for $18,000 and now your quibbling over millions”.. he couldn’t even conjure up the right words to justify his actions 😂
They need too do another investigation and clean up all this mess in boxing..it a waste of money supporting boxing
That's why I lost interest in Boxing in the end.
The South African promoter took it well. Thought he would be devastated
Floyd Mayweather said nope not me 🖤💪🏿
Panama Lewis and Pryor as well
How do you call someone Colonel who was never in the Military. As a vet you earn that Title.
Well he's not alive no more anyway so what are you going to do sue him? As a vet in life you can't be that bright to join the military anyway! What good has any military ever done in the history of humanity? Don't give me all the brainwashed fabricated BS they gave you to join, give me just ONE piece of truth that shows the good for humanity in militaries? Go on...Colonel Guile! Sheridan, is known as the Colonel because of his rank in the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company of Massachusetts, he has called ringside action from more than 100 countries, over 10k fights! What exactly have you done that was so great again?
Just like calling someone Sarge
Some southern States allow the Governor of that State to confer the title "Colonel" on a person who lives in that State (or gave a big chunk of money to get the Governor elected). It's an honorary thing.
Colonel Sanders and Colonel Tom Parker, KFC guy and Elvis' manager, neither of which served but earned the title.
This is exactly, what happened to Francis Nganou with Tyson fury’s fight. Francis watch this documentary.
You got it wrong because Fury didn't gain anything and lost a lot as it is. Watch it a few more times you will understand that against Francis wasn't the case.
Francis didn't get robbed in that fight. He exceeded expectations true but wasn't robbed. If you want to see a very obvious robbery at a level bigger than the Fury fight watch Pacquiao vs Bradley. Pacquiao took Bradley to school and was straight up robbed. Nobody had Bradley winning that fight. No experts trainers nobody but those judges. How that fight wasn't investigated I'll never know but there's def fights on a major level that stink. Even MMA has problems with it
@@SuperSomeone1984… Paquiao v Bradley.. Paquiao v Horn Holyfield v Lewis 1, just to name a few
The dude at 13:55 looks like a bad guy from a movie lol
Is that Keith David narrating?
🚬👴🏿🍔 NO, HE PLAYED UNCLE BILL ON FAMILY AFFAIR
If professional Boxing were organized more like Amateur Boxing, you wonder if there would be even half of the shady characters hanging around.
Brilliant 🥊🥊🥊
My Dad was British welterweight champion in 1986, 87, 88 My uncle Errol was The biggest prospect in British boxing history, I asked my Dad why he never never Supported me in sports as I was a champion from an early age achieving in athletics, football, but more so than anything a fighter a, and he said simply "Too many gangsters".
Kushner, Greenberg etc. People just don't know.
Not sure what you mean, unless your referring to "settlers".........
@@treblebbb3388 yup, settlers, exploiters , etc.
"a game without rules" 😂 we are talking boxing. There's a billion rules
The definition of counting your Chickens before they hatch. Cedric Kushner was rubbing his grubby greasy hands at the 000000's he was going to make off Rahman. And made none. LMAO. That was quite legendary to see his face whilst the rug was pulled from under him. Which must of been bit of a feat to do that. I wonder where he is now ? EDIT: Yeeeeeeah he's Dead.
I never liked Don King promoter he was a crook
Rahman sorta f××ked this guy though. He was nothing but a second coming of buster douglas but he had the ego of an ATG.
KING PLAYED RAHAM FOR A FOOL,ROBBED HIM,AND HUNG HIM OUT TOO DRY,LIKE HE DID ALL HIS FIGHTERS, WHO WERE ALL STUPID ENOUGH TOO FALL FOR THE RACE CARD,AND ALL ENDED UP BROKE,ITS CALLED CARMA,IN THE END,THEY ALL DERSERVE EACH OTHER
Rahman did get karma blasted, lost next 3 fights w King and a draw.
And karma fkd Rahman like a 2 dollar whore at a frat party. You get what you give.
Keith david walkin me down to sum quality 💤 rn
57:30 59:47 1:01:00 1:24:34 1:25:56 1:26:59
It could of being fair documentary if the other characters were equally asked, and followed as to who and why they did what they did, and thierJourneys as M.R kushner.
What happened to the wbc and wba why were they not investigated?
Thank you for not calling me a liar , Ali , floydzm Mayweather are part of this , Rest in Eternal peace Salvador Sanchez .
Don king Fuzzy wuzzy!! 😂😂😂😂😂
For Mayweather to du wat he did is even more amazing now!!! Wow! Boxing is the kraziest sport entertainment business
Sounds like a waste of time and money.
Now, no one watches boxing. Everything is corrupt, why pick on boxing?
He says "the sport of boxing is what I love" but then "the business of boxing is what I hate"....truer words were never spoken! Promoters are like Mob bosses...one step from jail or an indictment.
Is the UFC next?
What did he mean when he said out in the field working at 6 am??
Keith David!! He's a great voice. First heard him voice spawn in the spawn animated series
This explains why come 2005 you heard nothing about boxing and it was all about the MMA.
Anyone notice something in common with the people involved behind the scenes?
Every time
What would that be?
I would have thought the Oliver McCall fight would have drawn the feds in
"FBI Sting On Pro Boxing?" Ya, that's about five minutes of this 1 1/2-hour "documentary." May as well have called it "Fat Guys Talking" because it would have been more accurate.
Why was the George Foreman loss scandal edited? Seems strange.🤔
One big racket
In the days of Dempsey, 8 million dollars+ I gate receipts alone is like a billion dollars today …😮
17:47
Something tells me that the whole reason this guys fighter got the championship belt is because he :
Said & did *EXACTLY* what needed to be said and done ! - ( to protect everyone involved at the true core, deceive the investigation, & obscure the real truth behind the corruption !!! ) -
This was his *”Reward”* for being a “good boy” !¡!
What do you mean? You kinda explained but not Really....
Tyson vs holyfield killed the sport never been the same to me
That is why that fight or tyson lewis never happened in the 80s--because Don knew what would happen and you can Bet your azz holyfield knew, because sparring in the olympics told the tale.
Lewis was too early in his career ti fight Tyson before Tyson went away
Typical that alllll the corruption in boxing beaver agreed to take down Lee which is nothing new of the black man taking the fall. Still going on this day in boxing smh