Game Theory: You're WRONG About Ash's Pikachu! (Pokemon)
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Today is the day, Theorists! The day that I, once and for all, prove that Ash's Pikachu is WEAK! That's right! There is no Level 100 here. Throughout the anime, Pikachu has proved to not be as strong of a contender as we were led to believe. Let's get into the evidence!
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Treecko: **is green, looks grass-like, literally has tree in the name**
Ash: *iS iT a WaTeR tYpE?*
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No Ash, It's a grass type. What water Pokémon have you ever seen before that Is covered in green and has literally "tree" on their name?
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Ash never saw that Pokémon before
Assholes
The snivy trainer gave him 95 rare candies off screen.
And kept spamming the b button so he wouldn’t evolve
No, in Unova, as got a “new start” so his Pikachu was lvl 5
@@kayseri2005 you missed the whole point of the video
@@stevegfx9312 I made this comment BEFORE watching the video. My bad
@@kayseri2005 it’s all good
That killed me, I forgotten that ash once thought treecko was a water type. Like what?
Literally says “tree” in his name 😂
It would be halarious if it Turns out that Pikachu is actually Lv. 99 but the developers of the anime made Pikachu faint just for plot.
Pikachu's power got blocked..he gets his power back later in the episode
@akcapple you don't know that anime need to be coded?
@@martinw7217 no it wasn’t. His electric power was drained meaning he couldn’t use electric moves. But I’m sure a level 60 pikachu can easily solo a level 5 Snivy with iron tail and quick attack
literally the answer
@@Tangorr60
matpat straight up proved that wrong in every way possible.
Theory: Pikachu is smart enough to know how to pretend faint so other trainers can learn and feel better about themselves
"That's the only way it makes sense, and it probably isn't true."
Or he just fakes faint cuz he's lazy AF
I mean, Pikachu did faint on purpose with Paras. Maybe this time, it was a pity-faint, but with better acting
True matpat should do this one
It would make sense for pikachu to throw the match as this trainer was just starting out on their journey so pikachu threw the match trying to not crush the trainers dreams right out the gate. Honestly ash may have known too and played along as those 2 seem to have a near phychic relationship. Though ash is a pretty big idiot sooo….
Team rocket : changes glasses
Ash: *I've never met this man in my life*
The superman effect
@@thai8590 The quote is from Loki(the character not the miniseries).
@@The360MlgNoscoper they’re taking about how superman puts on glasses and doesn’t get recognised, not who the quote is said by lmao
Gta police pov
Spy from tf2.
Lets just be proud of this dude that watches EVERY episode for his viewers
Any clue where to watch all the episodes
@@FireStrikerShadow Why do you wanna watch them anyway? they are very repetitive.
@@Pyroflor well where do you watch them he wants to know
@@bolt227 If he wants to know, he can ask google.
@@shiota79 and wat if google is no help
After re-watching this one year later I think I’ve realized that Matt didn’t put in perspective the power boost that Pikachu gets throughout the series as well an example of this would be when Brock’s father uses the electric water generator to power a Pikachu that had to of accounted for some extra levels
And if pikachu kept going until present day then he would of fought legendarys aswell
I mean those extra levels aren't able to be put numerically so i doubt they can be held accountable as a form of bonus levels which already was an overkill on snivy
@@phuahzixuan2077How about we put those boosts as Rare Candy equivalents.
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I don't get it
Pikachu: looses to snivy
Ash: "what how?"
Matpat, pulling the doc: "ya got me, by all accounts this doesn't make sense"
Pull the leaver James!
WROng levveeerrrr
*falls into pit full of sandiles* WRONG LEVER!
Wow, that Snivys power exceeds it's evolutionary level!
Black and white was a reboot.
Why do we even have that lever?
I got the answer thanks your calculations Mat. What you neglect to calculate is that Snivy is actually level 16 because it cannot learn Leaf Tornado at level 5. Meaning Ash's level 59 Pikachu was battling a level 16 Snivy. And here's the direct damage calculations:
Lvl 59 0 Atk Pikachu Quick Attack vs. Lvl 16 0 HP / 252 Def Snivy: 41-49 (91.1 - 108.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
This means that Snivy will not be guaranteed okoed by a neutral nature pikachu using quick attack. As for the return hit Snivy does very low damage back.
Lvl 16 0- Atk Snivy Tackle vs. Lvl 59 0 HP / 0 Def Pikachu: 2-3 (1.5 - 2.3%)
Lvl 16 252+ SpA Snivy Leaf Tornado vs. Lvl 59 0 HP / 0- SpD Pikachu: 7-10 (5.4 - 7.8%)
Which shows that the maximum damage Snivy could do was 10% back. However Ash's pikachu had been injured and could have not fully recovered, or rather not recovered at all from the encounter with Zekrom. Thus it is entirely possible that Pikachu just has 10% of it's hp or 20% if both of Snivy's attacks were crits and so he was defeated. Now it makes perfect sense. Thanks for watching 600+ episodes of pokemon.
I was wondering if a Lvl 5 Snivy could actually know Leaf Tornado, but now the question is: if the guy is a new trainer and just got that Snivy: why is it Lvl 16?
Every starter starts at level 5 tho
@@jjs5072 ayoo, my man got rare candies for days broda!
Only for players. We have no idea what other trainers start at.@@Tangorr60
he specifically ignored using move names to calculate levels as move names are different due to japanese translations and there's a lot of inconsistency between the anime and game
I just love how you went from "Pikachu couldn't have lost against Snivy! His level is too high!" to "What was his level actually?" to "So how could he possibly lose to Snivy with such a high level?" to "HE COULDN'T HAVE LOST TO SNIVY! HIS LEVEL IS TOO HIGH!!"
That guy who played James deserves a raise.
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@Speak Good you know you can put your video in UA-cam ads right
He is the lead editor
@@GriffinZambia u know you can buy UA-cam ads
@@lewisxd3415 theyre cheap and probably 6 year olds mass report them or something i guess
Plot twist: The Snivy had a focus sash, used endeavor, then used a quick attack.
this is genuinely a really good theory
@@malachibennett687 Does Snivy even learn endeavor?
lol I just commented something similar then saw this. Focus Sash is introduced in Gen IV as well so it kinda fits
It kills him with a leaf storm though
@@deuterium-0156 I don't think so but isn't it a tm? I might be wrong
Not only is it possible that Pikachu went into the fight with low HP, but also it's perfectly possible that the anime 'verse works with a slightly more realistic logic in terms of health, namely that Pikachu could have simply had a serious off day with an unusually competent Snivy.
but didn't pikachu attacked first? So even his normal atk damage should have one shot a lvl 5 pokemon
I would follow this logic with if it was an off day and Pikachu knows he is way stronger then it's very probable that Pikachu held back and threw the fight because we have seen pike be very compassionate as counter to ashs competitive nature so I am gonna say pika simply threw the fight because it didn't wana actually hurt a baby compared to it.
Like I used to go to pokemon card game tournaments and even took first place a few times but when I play against my 9 year old I hold super back and don't use any actual strategy. So she can learn and build confidence in desicion making. Pokemon constantly display that level intellect and compassion.
@@mystrknwital9146 focus sash
@@A-Random_Pakistani how tf would a guy who just walked out of the lab with a starter have a focus sash? Also it isn't holding anything.
You're slightly correct about following real world logic just miss 2 points
1 that snivy knew leaf storm there is no way for a normal snivy to knew that
2 it has been explained multiple times that if the trainer got confused than so does the pokemon they were completely shocked why Pikachu is unable to use any electric attack and was not focused in battle
Now the last task for this topic is to calculate Pikachu's level by the end of Ash's journey in the Pokémon Journeys episode "Rainbow & the Pokémon Master"
How did Ash lose to Snivy? Simple: *It was a cut-scene battle.*
Uhhh
Oh god- that joke was "Leafy" joke.
Win the battle, lose the cutscene lol
@@elawinjala1635 OBJECTIVE COMPLETE: SURVIVE
*dies in cutscene*
Ha
Plot armor: "Let me introduce myself"
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Attack stat: 69 nice
Any D&D dungeon master will tell you, plot trumps rules.
Even plot armor has plot armor
The snivy could be level 16 for all we know as it knows leaf tornado but still it's win chances are low.
Also that would make the snivy an illegal starter.
Ye illegal and doesnt it evolve at 16 or am i dumb
@@J_qm You can cancel the evolution
It could be a mistake (got the wrong snivy)
Ilegal? I don't know in anime high level starter are regarded as harder for new trainers to tame otherwise starter could even evolve if it's not control of its power just like torchic did
This is actually really simple. Ash just didn’t heal Pikachu before the Snivy battle. It was probably just pure negligence.
Not really because the pikachu's health doesn't affect the fact that there is no way the Snivy could have survived Pikachu's quick attack
@@sid6041 there is a chance that a Pokémon can survive an attack if their relationship with their trainer is high enough
@@FireFoxie1345 That's a feature that only started in the Gen VI games, one region after the Snivy battle. Not to mention getting a starter's affection that high before your first battle with it is...difficult at best.
@@sid6041 Focus sash... that said Pikachu was apparently recently healed in the anime before that battle so it's unlikely he'd be even at 50% hp.
By all accounts Pikachu should win that fight.
@@FireFoxie1345 this some 1 hp stuff?
The professor must have gave that kid an over leveled Snivy by accident.
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taking "leaf tornado" into account it would be lvl 16
@@franeks7855 yepp that's it
Or maybe it was a secret lvl. 50 Zororak. It would be the right region.
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Gotta love how Pikachu’s final level wasn’t hidden at all when the document was shown at 7:41
Oh good I'm glad I wasn't the only one that saw the obvious total at the bottom
I saw that too and it spoiled the ans for me
Same felt bad for reading it
Thx for the heads up. I knew not to look
Saw this tooo!
I love how mat just DOESNT take into account of healing before gymbattles, which He rarely did . pikachu could have also just been low health going into that fight
Snivy still take the hit and didn't faint
@@higorlauer742 focus sash
@@unknownmystery5373 where did the new trainer get the focus sash?
@@RilGames. Gift from a family relative or friend.
@@sargentgullible2794 okay but it isn't holding it. Like every other pokemon in the anime does, weak ahh argument to try and prove matpay was wrong even tho he spent hours researching this. Just take the fact that Pikachu would have won easily and carry on.
My head-canon was always that Ash was training Pikachu between battles. I don't think that Pikachu is lvl 100, but I think it's unlikely that his level is quite that low. The calculations do prove the minimum level it could be, though.
"Dad, what are you doing?"
"Watching Pokémon."
"Can I watch with you?"
"No, I'm researching."
Also Dad: About what actually...?
@@ahmadmudassir15 Pikachu's level
Dad comes back an hour later "are you winnin son?"
Lol
You're dad wanted to watch pokemon with you and you said no.
That breaks my heart
"Maybe he is better than everyone gives him credit for."
"Nope, still an idiot."
iS iT a WaTeR tYpE???
honestly the fact that Pikachu is sometimes even crushing other pokemons that are twice or more of his level explains very well why team rocket is so obsessed with him
Yeah.
I feel like you forget that a trainer and his connection to their Pokemon affects the stats of the Pokemon. The fact that Pikachu follows Ash and doesn't sit in a ball like a captive pet makes the two very unique and should not be overlooked. This is key and perhaps you should consider it more closey in your theory. You must look deeper at an emotional level and consider the darker aspects of Pokemon that the Ash Pikachu dynamic rebels against.
How do you translate your suggestion to numbers?
✨️add ❤ Power of Love. ❤✨️
He does account for this. Friendship is part of the damage equation and it maxes out in the first season
I love how MatPat knows that he's actually insane for calculating all of the xp gains and losses by literally watching every episode of the anime
he has to much time
Dedication at its finest!
YOU ARE ONCE AGAiN EVERYWHERE
He already did when calculating his age, which was even more impressive
This only comment with no youtube link. Thank god.
Ash is a hacker and somehow still manages to goof up battling a level 5 Snivy.
Answer: Trained is hacking
That's the funniest part of the whole entire thing. Beating a legendary and then losing to a snivy a few episodes later.
Just to remind you he watch more episodes in a month than you have watched in a year pls don’t make wtf moments weekly
It always bothers me when people say “Pikachu was beaten by a level 5 Snivy.” Snivy doesn’t learn Leaf Tornado until level 16 in Gen 5, meaning that Pikachu was actually beaten by a Level 16 Snivy. It’s still pathetic but it’s not AS bad as a level 61 losing to a level 5.
Maybe he accidently hacked Pikachu's stats too high and they had an integer overflow. When he fought Snivy his stat's were so high that they reset back to 0.
Did no one watch what happened before pikachu battled snivy??? Season 14 episode 1???? Pikachu was hit by lightning cause it to go weak. Pikachu was so weak it couldn’t even complete several of its attacks much less do a tackle due to being exhausted. It WASN’T a off screen battle or Region reset.
I love how he tries to point out that its impossible for Pikachu to lose to snivy but when Pikachu pulls through in battles that would be impossible to win mat pat is just "I'm just gonna ignore that"
You should continue this to see what level Pikachu is now up to the current show.
Yes yes, more torture.
Yesssssssss
He said there won't be a third one
More tortured equals the Thousand more subs
@@thesunisawfullysunny :)
"You're WRONG About Ash's Pikachu!"
I don't even have any strong opinions on his Pikachu!
Lol
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lmao
Lol
*Surprised Pikachu face*
Technically I would say that the level 60ish is his minimum level because there's almost definitely some XP farming off screen.
This is all about the *onscreen* battles, but yeah, that's a minimum.
What level would he have in three more regions? (Start of Journeys)
@@joshuarobinson8529 Probably level 80-90 since he gained 30 in just Kanto then growed slowly later on. Even in regions with a lot of activity he only got like 10 levels.
@@UltraAryan10 I would say 70-80.
I think MatPat has gotten back into more logical videogame theories, and the incredible amount of effort he went through to make tells the huge dedication and passion he still has for his content.
Yea...
We see that he showed us the lv of Picachu at 7:38 on the far right...
A little Woopsies is alright anyways
the effort his team went through*
@@jensthemagicjester347 the right side, but yeah i noticed that too. oops
P
@@richardl1708 *him and his team
The “nope, never mind: still an idiot” cracked me up!!
ikr
Personally I would have calculated any off-screen training by using the EXP Share formula, as it's basically a trainer's Pokemon sharing their experiences.
Do it. 🎉
Theory: Pikachu sometimes throws matches. Also Ash is a genius, but pretends to be stupid.
Everyone: "Oh they reset the level"
Matpat: "But what if..."
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@@7ballstudios837 shut up
@@7ballstudios837 nobody asked
@@7ballstudios837 Where? Where are the askers?
This number actually makes sense most leveling on these games come from rare candies or painstaking grinding and Pikachu has rookie numbers
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Yeah, if you think about it, even in the first season, how many battles did pikachu actually have between gyms? Compare that to how many times you get popped in the game going between gyms from trainers and wild pokemon. And you only get experience when you win lol. Ash was getting badges after losing.
What if… Snivy was holding a focus sash and Ash didn’t heal up before that battle (leaving Pikachu with only a couple of HP)?
What about him evolving? Don’t you have to be lvl. 50 or something to evolve?
nah the last game I played, Y, I never used the rare candies. I was saving them for the later levels where the amount of exp needed is crazy. You can easily get to levels around 60 by just beating the game with normal grinding.
Leaves out the fact Pikachu tied with a ducking Latios at the end of the Sinnoh series
Pikachu was at least level 30 when ash got him. You can tell, on account of him refusing to obey orders.
Actually Pikachu is ash's starter which never disobey based on levels so no
@@trappedcosmos Actually, Pikachu wasn't intended as a starter Pokemon. Ash missed his appointment with professor oak and oak gave all his starters away. Pikachu is a gifted pokemon that oak had randomly caught.
Which means that he'd also get boosted xp.
Wouldn't pichu be the starter version... being the baby pokemon. Pikachu is technically evolved once... like a Wartortle, Ivysaur, or charmeleon.
This actually makes sense..
@@ifeelsappy5343 no it doesn't
You might have accurately surmised Pikachus level, what you didnt account for Snivy having is something that is very crucial. Its the sole reason why it beat Pikachu, something that is often overlooked but its THE most powerful trait anyone could hope to obtain.
Plot armor
Snivy could have had some kind of rare buffs like Pokérus had naturally ate a lot of calc/iron & other minerals where it was caught & possibly maybe endure or some other skill that either buffed def & or atk/spec, Pikachu could have been injured or sick/cursed as well before the fight, factor in a critical hit from an unexpected counter hit after the shock of a lv5 pokemon tanking a quick attack & even I would grow eyeballs 10 timers their size just to then see my lv60 Pikachu get KO'd, there is still alot in the Pokémon world world we don't know about. Battle field could factor in too maybe it was a botched quick atk where Pikachu got messed up by terrain & maybe some active nerf or buff field effects were active, OFF GAME LOGIC NO AWAY PIKACHU LOST BUT FLUKES/RNG HAPPEN.
Or it was just lazy writing. & Plot Armor... Right definitely that, don't know why I'd even give the benefit of the doubt here it's Pokémon.
Actually sinvy was at least level 15 cause of leaf tornado and it ran away from the Lab to train
@@koalafromtomorrow5656 couldn't leaf tornado be an egg move? or bred?
I love how at 7:39 he accidently spoils the entire episode on accident but still love ya matpatt🤣
I was looking for this comment
Yeah, I was going to say something if no one else had.
Yikes moment
Lol it was pretty funny
61,2 this is the awnser oh boy mat should've edited that part better
Here is my very late take on how Pikachu lost against Snivy the first battle. What I think it is is how levels don't really matter in the anime. They exist sure, but they may not apply because obviously Pokemon learn moves that they wouldn't in game, like Pikachu learning Electro Web. The level could still be 5-61, but it probably wouldn't matter because in the end, Pikachu is a Pikachu. A weak statted Pokemon that has a base stat total of 320. Snivy's base stat total is 308. plus quick attack isnt stab, and stab DOES apply to the anime. I don't know for sure if low roles and high roles are in the anime, but if they are, quick attack would not do as much as killing Snivy in 3 different lives. And then to account for the possible high roles and crits for Snivy's tackle (I think its tackle) and stab Leaf Tornado, if I correctly put in the numbers, that would be just barely be enough to defeat Pikachu. Or it could just be a sympathy faint and Pikachu's acting has improved heavily
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"Nope, still an idiot."
*Basically how to sum up the series*
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Yes. I want know what level Pikachu is by the end of Alola.
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@@namanvevo Your dream though you have like 8 million 9 year olds who like all your videos
Gotta admit, that elephant trunk was clever.
To answer your question about Snivy surviving Pikachu's hit and defeating him; there are 2 things that you didn't take into account:
1. Snivy could have been wearing a Focus Sash, which is an item that enables the wearer to survive a hit (1HP) if its HP was 100% before taking the blow.
2. Pikachu had some kind of injury (reduced HP) and Ash didn't go to the Pokemon center to heal him.
Well it did get thwacked by Zekrom
If held items work like Poliwhirl holding the King's Rock, then we would've seen the focus sash wrapped around Snivy's head or something. :O The anime did start accounting for more in-game adaptation by that point such as the 4-move restriction, as well as removing elemental manipulation such as using the sprinklers on Onix and THEN using thundershock etc.
Theory: it never says that pikachu is at full health when they start fighting, so maybe Ash simply forgot to have him healed up and he was sitting at "low" hp...
Good theory
Sometimes the simplest answer is the truth
That's a good point. Ash doesn't seem to ever carry any healing items with him. And maybe the Snivy was holding a focus sash or something
he'd still be faster tho
True, Ash is not smart.
ash's pikachu: literally beats a latios.
also ash's pikachu: faints to a level 5 snivey
edit: sorry guys i thought it was a latias ill edit this
It was a Latios.
Yeah it was Latios.
Actually, it was a latios
Pikachu must have did a Fake Faint do prevent itself from vaporizing that lil starter. I wanna believe Pikachu is just a good pika.
Actually it's a tie
“You to bozos” LOL that meowth totally destroyed them
Plot twist. Pikachu is a group of Zorua varying in levels.
Nurse Joy: "It seems that Chikorita is suffering from jealousy."
Ash: "Jealousy? Is that some kind of Pokemon?!"
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Chansey's are low
Give it a few years we'll get there
@@robertagren9360 sorry but ...
It's "chances*
@@M0R4N4_xX
No it's Chansey
What scares me is how Matt manages to look so good wearing Jessie's hair.
I was just thinking this same thing lmao
AGREEEED
And the eyeliner
It's so perfect
Same
++++
The last line got me "... NEVERMIND, HE STILL AN IDIOT" 😂😂😂
I love your vids man it sucks your leaving I’m rewatching all you vids as a tribute
Another quote that shows Ash as a dunce:
Giant Alakazam- "ALAKAZAM!"
Ash- "Is that a Kadabra?!"
Brock- "No! It's an Alakazam!"
Well can you tell the differences between animals in the real world?
Remember that these are animals to them
Yes but it would be easier to say what animal it is if it literally shouted out its name
For all forms of doubt, Ash is actually smarter in Kalos.
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Meanwhile Brock and his "Jelly Filled Donut"
POV: you saw the spreadsheet at 7:40 and pikachu’s final level was spoiled for you 😔😔
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I didn't even see it while watching it or at least not paid attention to it 💀
@@HAYTHAMABOUELFAID did you seriously steal a doal alt account pp?
@@namanvevo judging by you’re comment history, yes you are lying.
@@HAYTHAMABOUELFAID stfu just because he read a sheet he's a no lifer
although the final lvl was revealed at 7:39 i stayed till the end, since you put so much work into this :D
Treecko:''Treecko!'' Ash:''So is it a water type?''
"Snivy shook it off so its trainer wouldn't worry." * floaty hearts *
This makes sense!
@@WildRabiea and yet people are like aiiii that bad because it won
@@choihayting5039 to be fair this mechanic wasn't a thing at the time this episode was made
@@nigoulenoblehiboux9812 i know, but still.
@@nigoulenoblehiboux9812 And considering that the guy literally just got the Snivy, its affection would be too low for that to even happen.
Snivy just did a “It toughed it out so you wouldn’t be sad!” moment
I respect the effort that went into this video, awesome job mate!
Ash: *sees green pokemon*
Also Ash: "Is it a water type?"
to be fair politoed exists.
To be fair, it looks like a gecko or reptile of some sort, which water
You joke but Cyndaquil is a blue fire type.
@@zaracon3 True.
@@HoodedPandaX True, but Gen 8 brought the first water type lizard pokemon.
Theory: Pikachu didn't want to absolutely smite him, so he took the dive
The mafia had the battle rigged from the start. Pikachu had to take a dive or Ash's kneecaps were gonna get smashed in.
@@jacobg6628 That assumes that Pikachu isn't working *with* the mafia. I don't see Ash taking money from everyone he beats. That money has to come from somewhere.
Let’s see how many subs I can get from this comment
Current Subs 9886
Pikachu remembers Casey from the start of Johto, how miffed she got when Ash used Charizard against her chikorita
@@ceegeetee damm
You watched all the seasons now that is dedication
9:45 Mime Jr. could have refused evolution offscreen due to the anime logic of Ash's Pikachu being able to reject the Thunder Stone himself
Theory: Pikachu was just going mega soft on Snivy and pretended to faint because he was tired of beating up newbie trainers
or the writers just threw consistency out the window
Pikachu was sick that day
@@pormpfspimperton6804 ...If Pikachu had pokerus it makes even less sense! ...Unless it had pokerus at an early age which is why its stats are stronger than its level... Maybe due to that unusual strength and lack of general battling despite having some experience it's still punching way above what it's actually able to tackle, only coming through because of the heightened stats and not skill, which is important in the anime...
@@lunasif He never said anything about Pokerus.
@@attackcrash0787 Yeah but as far as I know that is the only sickness in the games for pokemon. It's just where my mind went and had some fun with it.
How about a theory on why ash sounds like he's smoked for the past 40 years
Lol
Because he’s smoked for the past 40 years of being 10
there’s your answer
Lol
(That voice stopped In black & white)
THIS IS 100% A ROAST
He's actually a ancient Vampire from the Arceus days. xD
You’re biggest mistake was not taking the Zenkai boost Pikachu gets from every battle he lost.
Although writers make Pikachu like this in the anime, he still remains as one of my favs
Wait wasn't pickachu's electric powers were gone that battle?
Theory: ash breeds a new pikachu each region so he can feel like he has a new starter
or the writers nerfed pikachu for plot convenience
Thats why he gets skinnier...
Then why would pikachu know team rocket for each region and have a close connection to ash and know his past and know the same moves and remember every person ash has been friends with and like the same food?
Why is there a link......
WHAT?!
That's the dark timeline
Theory: Snivy was a higher level would be 17 when it learns leaf tornado.
Still can't imagine a supposed level 61 lose to a level 17 Snivy. Leaf tornado isn't even super effective and Pikachu's HP should've been super high
@@zera3947 yeah even matpat said that even without the team rocket exp Pikachu would still only be lvl 59 so even little things like that wouldn’t matter Pikachu would still obliterate that Snivy no matter if it was lvl 5 or lvl 17
Snivy held on so it’s trainer wouldn’t worry!
@@maxspecs lol
@@benjboiplays5403 it could be possible that when pikachu was overcharged by zekrom, his stat could got lowered, quite possibly temporarely reset, regaining those stat as time went on, so pikachu could have been level 61, but because he was overcharged, it had the stat of a pikachu around lvl 10-20
My deepest respect to you for completing this 2-parter, dear non-sane master theorist.
I know this is two years after the episode came out, but I think there was one thing that might have been overlooked. Pikachu didn't listen to Ash when he was first given to him, so is it possible that Pikachu could have actually had another trainer before Ash, as corroborated by knowing Thunder?
I just realized Mat pat just speed ran everyone’s childhoods by watching every Pokémon series.
True
Im thinking it wasnt a solo mission. Probably hired a couple people help
He should do One Piece next
He still has to go through 2 more regions after this
@Josh Harding ok 7 outa 10 people’s childhoods.
There are theories that Trip’s snivy was actually massively over levelled before being given to him I.e. Juniper caught a really high level snivy
@u dope ?
Snivy does learn leaf tornado at lv 16
I literally just left a long comment about just this very subject. Trip gets his first pokemon snivy and already knows leaf tornado? WTF was professor juniper feeding it. But even still Pikachu still should have won.
@@nooneimportantlol6553 He also evolves at that level but he was still a Snivy so at most he could be lvl 15.
@matpat do a theory on this
Now that Ash's Journey's End is Confirmed, who else wants mat to make a part 3 of this episode until the end of Pokemon's Journey to get the final Level of Pikachu
The only conclusion I can draw on how a snivey beat pikachu is that ash didn’t rest pikachu up before battle and it’s hp was low from the start.
That and that snivey got lucky.
Snivy would still have needed to be focus sashed lol
At this point game devs can put random cool stuff into their games, sit back, relax, and let Game Theory write the lore for them.
Good Idea
that's what Scott Cawthon is doing, except Idk if it can be considered cool.
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I'm ˢᵘᵇˢᶜʳᶦᵇᶦⁿᵍ ᵗᵒ ᵉᵛᵉʳʸᵒⁿᵉ ʷʰᵒ ˢᵘᵇˢᶜʳᶦᵇᵉˢ ᵗᵒ ᵐᵉ ᵃⁿᵈ ˡᶦᵏᵉˢ ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵉⁿᵗ''
It's almost like Matpat it's their indirect writer
Ash's Pikachu: *exists*
MatPat: *_"Peace was never an option"_*
That doesn't even make sense
You see, Ketchum, you're not dealing with the average Snivy anymore...
Ever notice Team Rocket doesn’t give a piece of shiny Bantha dung about the ONLY talking Pokémon.
Perfectly timed, I was just about to say "I have nothing to watch"
Same
I was about to say that too!
Same
I know u!
@@itotallydontexist342 hi
"Drumroll!"
Me: "It's 61. You didn't exactly omit it from the spreadsheet you threw on screen with the Level being 61.2. Thus I knew the final level halfway into your video..."
I saw this too!!!
Was looking for this comment lol!!
well if I was looking for the unintentional reveal in the shown document but I think he saw it and thought that it would be a Easter egg that we could look for if we were perceptional enough (btw its 2 am for me rn)
Don't spoil! Edit the comment so unless someone clicks read more they cannot see the comment!
@@stuartpratt3662 it is right next to matpat on the spreadsheet, I wasn't even looking for it and I saw it. Super obvious location.
7:39 Lol you can see the level count next to matpat spoiling the entire thing for me
I was really upset when Pikachu lost that battle, I was like HOOOOOOOWWWWW?!
I'm glad you went through the trouble to show us what we figured before but wanted a definitive answer to. Pokemon is broken, but I guess was just really near faints door dwl. Ash need to always check the PC...
7:45 Matpat spoils Pikachu's level early in the graph lol
Bruh
Big yikes moment
I saw that too !
ua-cam.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/v-deo.html
Yep I saw it
"The person who'd win in a fight is the person that the script writer wants to win!"
~ Stan Lee
But if the writer is George R. R. Martin, them this quote is wrong 😂
Sooo... Plot armour
@@sk4364 I'm not sure it's really plot armour since Ash lost even tho it would've been inconsequential for him to win.
Yes, but the reader/watcher base should be able to critique how certain battles play out if they fail to line up with said script writer's pre-established rules of the world.
nuff said
I’m just realizing that you can see the final level when he’s showing us the dock around 7:50
Ash: "Is it a water type"
What i hear:"IS THAT A CHICKEN?"
I’m honestly impressed that matpat would watch and analyze the entire anime twice just for a few dumb UA-cam videos
onii chan
I mean, it is his job. Along with the team.
It matpat what else would you expect
ua-cam.com/video/Cmp1R7frXWw/v-deo.html
Thats his income, I wouldn't call them dumb
7:40 when you realize the final reveal of Pikachu’s level happened halfway through the video
I noticed immediately tbf
So I wasn't the only one who noticed. Like 1 minute before he was so eager about the "big surprise" but spoils it anyways. Lmfao.
nd is only up to the start of gen 5
Did not see
I saw it at that moment and laughed😂😂
this pikachu's stats must be insane bro
It might be something to do with how each region's levels work differently for all of the newer species that appear, meaning that adaptation could just be shown through the regions
Theoretically speaking, what would Pikachu’s level be if Ash gave him the XP share early on in their adventure
You just wanna see him suffer, don't you?
Don’t do that to Matt pat
99 most likely
Most likely 100 but it seems like it’s level resets every season for plot convenience
@@thefreeze6023 yes