4WD T56! Adapting a T56 or TR6060 to a transfer case for AWD
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2021
- Detailing the custom and standard parts to make your T56 accept a transfer case for all wheel drive or four wheel drive applications. Contact me with specific inquiries on the custom plate.
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Definitely looking to drop a TR6060 in my 2008 4x4 Silverado with the 6l90 in it currently.
thanks, just pulled a 440 WHP LS out of my Firebird in favor of a 6.0 supercharged, I want to put that motor in an S10 with AWD and a T56. This is great information, thanks!
Great video, super helpful!
You came up in my Videos to watch again, I still want to figure out a New Modern six speed T 56 Magnum to my Transfer case... 2005 2500HD Silverado
I need one made!
This is huge!!! I have so many questions on this right now!!! Will this mate with the Yukon or Escalade AWD or 4WD?
Awesome work my guy! I Have a question. Would that ctsv tr56 tail housing mount to a tr6060? I have a 6060 out of a 09' challenger and am wanting to convert to AWD
I'm very interested in this! I'm currently researching how to mate a T56 to my 1st Gen Toyota Tundra v8 (2UZFE 4.7L engine). I bought it with a bad transmission, i.e.; a disintegrated overdrive planetary gear because the torrington needle bearing which sits inbetween it and the ring gear is inadequate and is well known to fail. It's a huge issue that was never a recall. It's exacerbated by towing, especially in overdrive, but I've read a lot of forum threads where people have blown theirs under 100k miles and never towed anything! I had already wanted to do a manual swap as I've never been into automatics and this issue sealed it for me. I just need to figure out a bell-housing or adapter plate. Any help is appreciated. I really like the T56.
Hello, how long is this setup? From the bell housing to the end of the transfer case?
For anyone reading comments. The easy way is to get a gto trans and use the C6 adapter on the rear. It’s a direct swap and you have a normal “LS1” style bellhousing.
Yeah that would certainly work. The shifter would need extra work at that point, so I'm not sure, cutting and drilling the hardened steel shift shaft inside the transmissions and buying the McLeod shift socket and custom shifter might be a less favorable path for some.
I wouldn't bat an eye at doing the aforementioned work, but it just seemed easier and cheaper, so long as I don't feel the need to get the shorter bellhousing and input shaft, but at the price I got this trans, I'd still be ahead should I forge down that path. They all have their advantages. When I bought my trans, if you could find a GTO trans it was twice the price of all of the CTS-V transmissions. People must not like the flange the CTS-V comes with. There is alot more that will fit together on the T56 platform than won't and it's useful to know the configurations and what you require and what you don't.
This trans needed a mainshaft anyway due to wear on the 5/6 gear press diameter. If you get a used T56 it's not unlikely you'd be in the same boat.
Knowledge is power 👊
@@dieslowlymf oh don’t worry that wasn’t too difficult on the shifter. With no tail housing on it I filled the shifter area with towels and used a cut off wheel. Then used the existing hole in the shift rod to put the new lug on. From what I’ve read it’s surface treated which I believe because it wasn’t too hard to cut. Then the shifter is a steeda unit with the bolt holes elongated as they are the correct width but 3/8” too close together front to back. I was lucky enough to have a c6 trans laying around when I came across a good deal on the GTO unit
@@madkidd00000007 sounds good. What did you put in in?
87 s15 with a Sonoma gt body kit and interior
@@madkidd00000007 Where are the AWD burnout vids? Post up man!
I have a 2006 gmc sierra and wanting to manual swap it with the stock transfer case
I need this for my Tahoe. There is very little information on this swap
i know this its been a while now, but i feel you would probably know the answer. do you think a corvette tail housing (t56 or tr6060) would mate to a t56 magnum/magnum xl? i want to do basically the exact same thing as you, but ford flavored so it makes more sense to go aftermarket since oem ford 56s and 6060s, well, im not entirely convinced they even existed in the first place.
also what are you doing for a reverse lockout, if you are using one at all?
Hey Michael, I hope you're well. I've got two of these s10 platforms that I've added awd to. Lots of FUN!! I'm getting ready to overhaul one and would like to install a t56.
It would save me some time and headaches if I don't have to make the adapter myself.
I understand the price is higher than a year or two ago.
Are you interested in selling me one? I have not bought the t56 yet so I have some flexibility.
What is the price for an adapter?
Big BIG Thank You in advance!
Could you help me with where I can get the adapter and everything necessary to mount a t56 to a silverado SS awd.
I tr6060 can get the part number for the tail house and how much for that adapter you made for it
Can you tell me what all i would need to make this work in a 3rd gen trans am?
interested on this adapter as well if you can still make them
Which tr6060 is better suited for this swap?
If you are willing I would totally buy one of those adapter plates. I’ve been trying to do a setup like this for years. I’m trying to do it where it can mate up with the tcase adapter for a np208. The engine and trans are from a 2005 CTS V.
Also is there a part number stamped on that c5 tail housing? I haven’t been able to find one anywhere... maybe I’m just looking in all the wrong places.
The tailhousing I am using is a 12455042. At some point there was a tailhousing with the small C5 style bolt pattern that used a gasket with a different part number; 89059568. My assumption is that this tailhousing is identical except the mounting face of it is milled down the thickness of the compressed gasket. The gasket should be part number 89059570 if you end up going with that one.
@@dieslowlymf thank you for the quick response! Please let me know if I could buy one of those adapter plates from you. This channel is going to blow up pretty quick 👌
@@maxwolthuis I do have a revision to the plate coming. A video on that should be happening soon. Once I get that figured out, I think I can do a group buy on a handful of the plates.
Yeah, I'll prob be interested in one as well. I had been planning on getting a tail housing with the two protrusions on the driver's side, but I hadn't considered the front shaft running into them. Can you get a measurement from the center of the tail shaft to the tips of those? I've got a T-case from a trailblazer SS, I'd like to compare them and see if I have room. Thanks!
Anyway to get specs on the adapter plate if you don't have any for sale?
Looking to do a t56 in a old w150 or 250, Amy tips? 360 v8 dodge
May I get your email or info to purchase an adapter plate please? Absolutely great video also!!
I'm trying to get from a T56 to my BW4493/4494 tcase. Can you help me out? Thanks in advance.
Mate this is sick. Would definitely love to do this on my Supra. Do you have a build thread anywhere? Would love some guidance on how the transfer case would feed the front wheels.
Hey i know rhis is kinda old but do you sell the adapter plates?
Where did you get the adapter for this?
i am interested in the adapter you made, how much for one?
How much would you charge to make one?
Hey man interested in your adaptor. Can't find any contact info though.
How can I contact you about getting one of these plates made??
Hi mate how do I get one of your adaptors?
So what do you think of using the LOJ conversion method that involves using a camaro tr6060 with a c6 tail housing and an 07-08 vette shaft with your custom adapter plate? I think the LOJ adapter would make it a bit longer and its too expensive, which is why id rather use your adapter.
When I started planning for this, I wasn't aware of the LOJ adapter, so it wasn't a known option to me. I am an enthusiast, just like everyone watching this video. I was just trying to find a solution to basically make my rare manual awd wagon haul my motorcycles. Turns out getting a Chevy S10 and making a custom plate is the next best thing.
I'm not interested in comparing and contrasting the LOJ adapter beyond this: there is no way I could use it in my application without cutting out a major frame member due to the length of it. You also have to dig into the transmission on both the LOJ and the route I pursued. Everyone should decide for themselves which route they want to take, some routes make better sense for your situation but the t56 is long enough, it would seem like a hard sell to make it like 6" longer. This setup is about 2" longer than the nv3500 it's replacing.
@@dieslowlymf thank you i appreciate your input. I am working on a project very similar to yours, an awd 6 speed s10 and would like to purchase one of your adapters.
Sorry it is a np241c transfer case
I'm very interested in purchasing one of these adapters, how can i contact you?
I know the capabilities of the tremec. I don’t have any experience with any of the transfer cases that could work with this swap. Obviously a smaller size is needed. But I don’t want grenade the transfer case. Mostly used at slower speeds off road. Also does the bell housing have clearance or does it need to be modified. Thanks for the help
I have seen people with 700AWHP on street break front diffs before they break the BW4472. Regarding the transfer case options, I'll list them out on the next video but this adapter takes the 4 bolt transfer case adapter pattern shared by the 4l60 and the 4l80 with the newer 6 bolt transfer case adapter to transmission mounting to come in the future this should make pretty much every GM transfer case attached to the end of a transmission an option. I'm not sure what you mean by the bellhousing question. If you are talking about the front driveshaft clearing the transmission bellhousing, there is an engine in front of the bellhousing you'd have to clear before the bellhousing is the issue.
I know this is an old video... but the stock TBSS/Saab 9-7 Aero transfer case is a NP/NV 120 that has the Torsen T3 center diff, which is the only way to get real AWD into any GM platform. They are damn near bullet proof and I am pretty sure that none have ever been reported as destroyed by power. Guys are running 9s with the stock transfer case. Bully Racing makes a LSD front diff that is cryo treated... they kinda specialize in Syclones and Typhoons, but the front diff in them is the same as the GMT360 platform so they are a direct fit.
How can I purchase adapter
How do I purchase one of these?
I have the transfer case adapter and the shaft just need the adapter plate
Awesome sounds like you are on your way. I will update soon!
Came across this trying to see how to fit my NP149 to a Magnum XL T56. I have the 27 spline input and 32 spline input for the 149 (was originally going 4L85E). Just need to figure out how to get these to mate together. I’m down for an adapter if I can figure out what’s needed...
I'm not super familiar with the specifics of the transmissions Tremec releases directly, but the magnum xl (kinda funny how Tremec decided to name their aftermarket line in lockstep with a certain prophylactic brand owned by Church & Dwight, but that's another conversation) but their literature indicates all other shift provisions have been removed, so if the shift shaft configuration was similar to the other transmissions, I'm guessing, totally guessing here since Tremec does not list parts diagrams and replacement parts online, that at minimum, you'd have to cut and drill the shift shaft to accept a shifter offset cup like the cts-v t56 one to use the forward position required when swapping the tailhousing in order to use the simple adapter plate.
Next, again, guessing here due to the aforementioned lack of my ability to see inside the Magnum XL without tearing I've apart, my guess is that you'd end up using the Corvette tailhousing that has the bearing cup for the single piece cluster gear, which I think is only available on the wide bolt pattern, later tailhousing.
I have an adapter for that designed and it will be the next one I produce, so given the trans can be configured for the Corvette tailhousing, yes an adapter would bolt those two together, just gotta get the transfer case extension/adapter selection right at that point.
@@dieslowlymf I also don’t really know how to make it work. My trans is going behind a Ford Modular application. Trans input and output shafts probably need changed? Ford output is 31 vs Chevy 32 spline, unsure of input. I had found this online, seems to be the same type of thing as what we’re talking about:
www.rsgear.com/products/off-road-truck-transmissions
@@Krossf1re the Tremec website only lists the magnum xl in a ford application currently. But I'm more familiar with gm stuff. Whatever you need on the input side should be available for you but that's up to you. On this transmission the input shaft stops right behind the midplate so the gm mainshaft should work with whatever input shaft.
@@dieslowlymf cool! What do you think this adaptor will run, and when would they be available?
I think the 6l80e auto transfer case adapter will bolt up to the 08 up corvette tail housing but I haven't looked at if they fit the Magnum T56
Good morning! Have you looked into making an adapter for a gm round pattern np205 by chance???
Yep, you just get the right transfer case adapter and you're there
Id be interested in purchasing a that adapter plate you made if you could make it for a 6 bolt t case. i have a nv149 im trying to mate to a t56
If only I could post a picture on here. Let’s just say that’s what’s in between the frame rails of an 87 s15
Could I get an email or contact information? Looking at transmission options for my Silverado SS and this would be sick.
Can you an adapter plate to bolt a t56 magnum to a Nissan skyline r32 transfer case?
Also interested in this
Looking to swap a t56 in my k1500 that has a nv3500. Do you know what all I will need to continue using the 4x4. I was told the transfer case will work. Is there in other issues I might run across ?
Devon, I responded to your email, but most simply, yes you could use your transfer case in this scenario, but there are alot of ifs you'd need to answer first. Driveshaft length, T56 you start with, etc are all in play
The t56 will set the transfer car back a ways torsion bar mount is the big problem if the transfer case is far back enough.
@@CapitalSpeedandSalvage I'm not sure how close that crossmember is on the bigger trucks but on my little S10 I have more than 5" between the transfer case and the crossmember in front of the torsion bar crossmember and I only need about 2.5". The parking brake cable on my truck would actually become an issue first but you could solve that in a number of easy ways.
Hey man just wondering if your still doing the custom plates because if so I’m interested
To be honest with you, the cost on these things doubled over the last year. This also means the calculations to run a business significantly change. I am taking every interested party into consideration but the number drops significantly when the prices match today's reality
@@dieslowlymf I am interested as well. do you have a fb or website to chat more about this?
What kind of horsepower will this setup handle. I have a 91 s10 blazer I want to switch to manual. It has a 450 horse 383 stroker with solid axle swap and 38s. What would be the best setup for this. Combo
I have a stock CTS-V Transmission and a BW 4472 and should be making 400-450 and dont have any concerns about this setup taking the power.
NV4500 it has a low gear and an overdrive gear.
@@CapitalSpeedandSalvage The NV4500 would require cutting or a body lift in an S10. Given the available gear ratios for either transmission, the NV4500 or the T56, they would result in 2 very different vehicles for sure.
You think I could do this with a 4wd transfer case for a truck?
Yes
I would like to buy one of your adapter plates have t56 small back plate to an np231
The NP241 would require a different GM adapter and a SSR mainshaft but this plate should go between the C5 tailhousing and that adapter. I have one revision to make and I can assemble 5 people and do a run of these.
@@dieslowlymf Do you have plans to make an adapter for the 231 or 242 transfer case?
I want the 01 z28 t56 and the astro awd case. Can you make that plate for that set up? What is ur face book? Also I've read something about there is no reverse lock out. Is there a solution for that?? Thank you
I have reverse lockout. See the CTS-V shifter specific part of the video about a minute in. The lockout solenoid is on the far side of the trans.
How u plan on doing your oil pan?
The H3 came with a 5.3 and the oil pan (12600497) is supposedly perfect for this swap. The oil pump pickup tube, dipstick and dipstick tube are also required. Thanks for reminding me I'm getting the last few parts collected and still have to get the oil pan.
Can you make an adapter plate to put on my landrover defender transfer case. Lt230
For adapting a LT230 to the T56, I would think the best bet would be using the SSR 32 Spline Mainshaft (GM P/N: 89059965, Tremec P/N: TUFP5211), with an adapter plate (I should be able to make one for this application) that goes between the T56 and the RW-ENG LT230 adapter module: rw-eng.com/products/adapter
You'd likely still have to cut some off the 32 Spline Mainshaft (allowing a shorter assembly) but it should work fine.
Best T56 to start out with would be a Corvette (with midplate conversion), GTO, CTS-V, or SSR if you can find one.
Keep in mind shifter position is a little forward for most vehicles, but something like the S1 H-Track shifter should allow most to move it back into a comfortable spot.
@@dieslowlymf its a corvette Z06 T6060 converted to the camaro tail housing. What about using the midplate position? Im interested in moving forward, What number could I call you at?
407-409-1149 Rich
How do I get ahold of you? Wanting to adapt a T56 for a project Im looking at doing.
4x4t56@gmail.com
Interested in the adapter for my syclone.
Hey man how can i get ahold of you over the phone or somthing?
You can send me an email at 4x4t56@gmail.com
Can this be done on the manual model??
What?
Manual model of the t56. Can you do a 4x4 conversion with a manual type t56
How much are you making the adapters for?
I'm on gen 2 of the plates now and it has grown a little in size. My numbers before were in the 3-400 range but i'm expecting an increase given the size increase and the sharp inflation in the materials and manufacturing sectors. Will release another video on the 2nd generation plate when I get quotes back
@@dieslowlymf awesome! Thank you, sir!
Wanting to do this to my 2000 sierra 4wd, is the t56 capable of switching between 2wd and 4wd or will it have to be AWD at all times even if I use the 4l60 from the truck
so is it 4wd or awd
Depends on the transfer case of your choice. This transfer case, the BW4472 is AWD, but if I were to bolt up the NP231 that I have, it would be 4WD.
@@dieslowlymf so if i used a transfercase like a NP231 the 4wd would work with the T60 and the 4wd components that are already on the truck
@@JAY-rm7ly yep, driveshaft length, front and rear might have to change but everything already on the truck would work the same.
Would the stock manual shifter stick work or do you need to mess with your shifter stick?
While I cant be sure of which stock vehicle you have in question, and the answer right now is almost certainly no, owing to the fact that this conversion makes use of the mid shift location, which is not used in any OEM application of the T56 or Tr6060. This leads me to think...While the mid shift location is the only option with this conversion, with the CTS-V setup, I may actually be able to make a pivoting mount using the CTS-V setup again, with shifter position customizable per application.
Oh shoot I'm sorry. Would the shifter be farther back than say a NV4500?
@@DittoBlast I would actually think this would be pretty similar. I think the shifter is going to land in the hole already in my truck for the NV3500 and I think the trucks that come with both the NV3500 and NV4500 have the shifter come out in the same location.
How can I get your contact info or email?😊
Hello is there a way I can contact you like insta or messenger I have a project I would like to see if you could assist with
Do you have a adapter for a T56 for a 208 Transfer Case?
This concept should work for a np208c
@@dieslowlymf So hpw much for one? Where did you get it at?
@@genomartinez817I Made it...