I would say that 13-2's Paradox Endings were also quite harsh. Like Serah forgetting who Lightning is, or especially the one where the AI program turns her and Noel into mindless drones.
@@deazee2288 Because everything lightning did leading up to the end of 13-3 was for Sarah She was Etros champion and turned to crystal after the end of part 2 to protect Sarah's soul. When she was awakened by the creator, he stole Sarah's soul to to bully Lightning into becoming his angel of death. So for Lightning to go through all that shit to save Sarah, for Sarah to forget who Lightning was is a huge Slap in the face
The "normal" ending for 13-2 was pretty harsh as well, Serah dying and the world mostly ending with a time crash, one could say it's even worse than some of the "bad" paradox endings.
The saddest ending for me is definitely the 13-2 Paradox Ending, Test Subjects. Not only did Sarah and Noel die fighting a endless army, their data was used to create copies that became slaves to the AI that fought. The copies also had some memories of their real life but got erased and reset after their mission completed. Worst the copies are used to enforce the AI's rule, making them digital Fal'Cie.
To add to Episode Ignis' bad ending. The thing that makes this ending scary. When it zooms out to show both Ardyn and Ignis, the scene is bright and the voices are clear. But when it shows from Ignis's perspective, the scene is darkened and Ardyn's voice gets more muffled. We are literally watching Ignis dying through his own eyes...
FFX pulls off one of the hardest ending of any story format. You will save the world, but you do so knowing you won't come back from it and all your friends have to watch you go. Also you never really existed
Yea when I first beat the game, I cried after that ending for a week. When Tidus started disappearing I started crying. One of the saddest game endings ever.
Final Fantasy Tactics has such a sad Bad Ending. Everyone ends up hating on Ramza, Orran is burned at the stake for trying to spread the truth, Delita is stabbed and then stabs Ovelia because she simply couldn't trust him (and arguably him her; though there's contention on that), Ramza and Alma have to go into hi--.... what?.... _What do you mean the game only has one ending?!_
I am surprised this wasn't mentioned. The characters literally go into hell to destroy Ultima and they were branded as heretics and the church covered up the entire event.
I expected Final Fantasy 13-2 to be mentioned here as it has many harsh paradox endings despite the original ending, which is also harsh. Like all what Noel and Serah have done was for nothing, which led to the start of Final Fantasy 13 Lightning Returns
13-2 should really be the game on here. Sure Lightning Returns has a brutal alternate ending if you fail, but 13-2 has multiple awful paradox endings, and the actual ending that you can't avoid also sucks.
13-2 lives rent free in my head for the special scene after you collect al, the Paradox thingies. Is it a scene with some hope? Maybe a hint for the Future No it's the big bad sitting on a throne indirectly taunting us about thinking we could somehow fix this.
The combination of FFX and FFX-2 were so awesome when I first saw the conclusion, but then I listened to the story that was written after X-2 when it was revealed Tidus never really returned, but was just a lesser part of his total self. Yuna and he couldn't remain in a romantic relationship due to their feelings changing and his insecurity due to his limitations being only created by pyreflies and not actually Tidus. It destroyed me.
@@knghtbrd he was a dream of the fayth in the first game, which I believe is different than an apparition created by pyreflies, although I could have misunderstood that.
@@reiddutchess9955 nah, I agree with that. Being something made up of "magic" versus being created by other people's souls makes me think that they're different technicalities.
Friendly reminder FFXV dlc's were not free on launch. They either required a season pass, or buying them individually. They were only "free" with the Royal edition.
Had the Dawn of the Future wave been fully released I’d imagine a new Royal Edition would have been issued, but as things stand Episode Ardyn still needs a separate purchase.
And it should be noted that if you live in Europe or Australia the Royal Edition is literally the exact same disc as the vanilla edition and the "free" DLC for the Royal Edition are single use voucher codes, so if your code's invalid or you need to reinstall the game for any reason you're shit out of luck.
I platinumed it long before they released the first additional story. So i never went back and as far as i'm concerned they sold me a half finished game with Hollow characters... bar Ignis, Ignis was cool.
@@TheGreatAmarant72 Agreed. I actually think FF15 is a worse game than FF13 (barely). I bought Royal Edition because I heard it fixes the story but I haven't been able to bring myself to play FF15 again.
I remember Krile’s ending in FF5 hitting like a truck because she lost everything, her family, her friends, and even her world is left almost unrecognizable and all this is while she’s like 12-13 years old
Furthermore, apparently at some point she has a massive headache from receiving a mental message. Krile had almost no downtime at all in the events of FF5.
World of FF's Bad ending was so good. The story went from been good to been 10/10. If only the whole game's story was like that and not just the last bit. I never got the good ending for Type-0 it's my intention to get it when I come to replay the game.
I remember playing X2 (my 1st FF) Getting a bad ending Replaying the game to get the good ending Doing so multiple times Gave up and watched a YT video
X2 was the bane of my existence back then, thanks to the RNG fest that was the tournament where you could win the mascot dress sphere. I must've tried countless times before I finally grew too frustrated and just gave up entirely.
It was a fun game, but was literally designed to sell the strategy guide. Getting the best ending involved pressing X randomly during a cutscene where there's no prompt to do so, and getting particular endings to a handful of random quests. There's no way anybody would find it just by playing the game normally.
@@ninjaconor86I actually did so and was definitely confused. I only pressed the button, because I was annoyed of running around alone and talking to myself. After a lot of runs I had to look up the missing parts. For example the quest with the special chocobo was tough, nobody tells you to send different level chocobos to find item and they also must not run away. Definitely a complicated game to reach 100%, but I did it.
I'm guilty of triggering the Type-0 bad ending, the choice was too tempting not to try it at least. Luckily I could come back to the decision not that long after, I'd be very sad if I had to go way back (and I guess I had a not-so-perfect ending in FFV too, but I wasn't aware of it until later)
With Type-0 ending isn't there an ending where they didn't die? I remember them asking for another chance or something to the lady ...... ugh it's been a while since I beat that game left and right. Also, didn't know that ending in FFV was a thing xO
I also triggered the bad ending, but my reason was different. I had learned beforehand that Rem was going to become a l'cie during the endgame, and immediately thought that the choice there was that moment. Turns out I was horribly wrong there.
What about FF16's ending? I was left with so many unanswered questions and most of all... the Flower that Tomes conserved for Dion! That killed me inside, I wanted to see him deliver that Flower!
Fun fact with X-2’s Vegnagun ending. The timer DOES hit zero immediately upon the party’s wipe out and the scene play. Had that happen once when I did a Creature Creator only run and mucked up, ending up in that fight with the girls by accident. I managed to beat the fight before it, but exhausted all my revives in the process.
It logically doesn't make any sense. By the time you reach that point of the game its already over. If you don't successfully stop Vegnagun the world is doomed. It only makes logical sense that being defeated by Vegnagun will result in the same ending as if you ran the timer out.
Because these were bad endings, as in not the good ending. These were secondary endings made to make the good endings look better. FF7's ending was just bad overall
It definitely isn't the worst ending but I get depressed thinking about FFXV's main story and ending. Like you lose your dad right after you give him a hug and tell him you love him, you lose your fiance like a minute after reuniting with her for the first time in roughly a decade, get thrown into the future where everything's gone to hell, and ultimately sacrifice yourself to kill your gruncle from ancient times. Noct and Luna being together in the afterlife felt super hollow after all that.
I'm curious as to why FF Tactics ending wasn't included in the list. Perhaps it doesn't quite fit the criteria for the video, as it's not an alternative "bad ending." Rather it's the actual/canonical ending that would give these "bad' endings a run for their Gil.
I've seen all of these but Ignis dying alone... If you make a list based on comments, well? You've included Bravely Default before, and Bravely Default II's second bad ending made me bawl my eyes out to the point that I had to put my controller down for a bit and let myself sob. It has two bad endings. The first is bad and I felt bad, but the second one hit me so much more viscerally. I don't wanna spoil anything about it, but IYKYK.
@@seand7042 oh for sure, I understand that. But I think the point of this video is that it focuses on standalone titles with alternative endings based on how the game was played, not holistically (like the FF7 universe)
The only bad ending I can think of is if Sephiroth threw Zack at the edge of the Nibelheim Mako Reactor, literally says: If Sephiroth throws you at the edge, it's game over
I’ll stand with you on that hill. I like 7 but that ending was just horrible. We don’t know what happened to everyone and just see meteor and Aerith clashing then it just cuts to credits. Post credit we then see Red running with his kids and look at a destroyed Midgar like if the whole world was ruined. We really didn’t get an actual answer for what happened to them for like 8 years when the movie came out.
I know this doesn't count for the list because it is the standard ending and there are not multiple endings. But the ending of Final Fantasy 9 haunts me. Not the ending itself, but the vague implication that the merger of Gaia and Terra cannot be stopped. That the Iifa Tree is going to keep doing it's thing and there is no way to stop it.
@@vigo2669 Yep. Some of the Genomes live in the Black Mage Village on disc 4. Terra's gone gone, so the Iifa tree is just. There now. Plus the boss you beat was the soul conductor, which is why Garland had to come in on the ship and do it himself.
Can't a character lost in the Void in 5 come back? My first playthrough saw Bartz KOd at the end and he was returned in a cutscene later. Is this not the case for all characters?
I guess comments were turned off after an hour but reply option is still available. So I'll type here, I truly believe FFX Intermission belongs here as sin does come back resulting in a continuation of an ending that is inherently bad
Strong disagree. 15’s ending was great and the intended ending for the DLC was generic garbage. Especially bad because selling a "true ending" as DLC is awful business practice by default.
@@KenjiShiratsuki To be a tiny bit fair...it was very clear both Ardyn and Noctis were Jesus architypes, especially Ardyn 😂. I do wish the ending had allowed both to live, though.
I didn't even know the Nuke Ending in FF X-2 existed, that's INSANE Also I kinda wish we would've gotten to see all the cancelled DLC for FF15 (and that FF15 had been a complete, well written game with no hastily conceived ending arc on launch) i bet episode Luna would've had some real tearjerkers for the bad endings from what the novelisation had, it's a shame that the team wasn't given enough time to actually complete the game and the crunch drove tabata to leave the company, causing squeenix to just cancel the rest of the planned DLCs
Thank you for adding Type-0 I really liked that game. I used to cosplay as Ace for certain events. I should stream the XIII series sometime, I liked those games.
I actually used to play Class Zero Tribal in the TCG before it died in the States, just so I could pretend that there was a timeline where they got to live. I mean it was a fun deck, and a decent midrange strategy. But the main reason was because . . . I dunno, I just always felt they deserved a happy ending.
FF16 needs an honorable mention here too. Character deaths and magic is permanently removed from the world and basically becomes a stuff of a legend. It's a super sad ending.
FF X-2 was fun, but lack characters and when you find out your looking for someone who looked like Tidus but wasn't made me very upset. The gameplay is good and so are the characters but lacked a great story so I have only replayed once and maybe one day again but probably not after that. FF X was 10x better
You do find Tidus by the end but you must be able to accept that there are others who are hurting just as much as you. Or even worse. And amending it. Least Yuna got to live.
I skipped to V because some of these I haven't gotten to yet. Wow, all my characters lived in V and I never knew about the alternate ending. That caught me completely off guard.
Same... I've never actually experienced it and never even knew this was a thing. I'm always max level and stats by the time I get to the end, so I blew through the battles.
its different alternate endings, they mostly simialer, but it all dipends on who lives in the final fight. you can have Bartz, Lena, Ferris, Krile/Bartz, lena, ferris/Bartz Lena Krile/Bartz Ferris Krile/ Lenna Krile Ferris/ Bartz Lenna/Bartz Ferris/Bartz Krile/Lenna Ferris/Lenna Krile/ Ferris Krile/ Bartz/Lenna/Ferris/Krile. they all have differant endings.
Adding a bit of detail to WoFF’s bad ending: 1) it wasn’t just their mom that got possessed. It was BOTH OF THEIR PARENTS. 2) just as they fight Brandelis the first time, they also learn that they were responsible for their adopted older sister Hauyn also being held prisoner by Brandelis and are forced to watch as helplessly as he obliterates her along with their parents 3) the Cogna (machine monsters basically) end up invading the replicant Nine Wood Hills that Reynn and Tama retreat to after Lann sacrifices himself to stop Brandelis.
Hot take: I prefer X-2's second-worst ending where Yuna gives up on trying to save Tidus. First off because 100%ing the game is a pain, and it means the awful audio drama never happens, but also because Yuna growing as a person and learning what she needs, rather than getting what she wants, and making her own identity that doesn't involve her imaginary boyfriend she knew for a couple weeks, is much more impactful to me.
I remember hating the normal X-2 ending as a kid, but as an adult I respect it much more now that I've lived through tragedy. The normal ending is just that: a decision to grow up and stop living in the past, which is exactly what Yuna needed.
I think Type-0 's true ending was not really "heroic" but rather "human" . And I'm not trying to say they're not heroes, but watching them confront their inevitable death, crying and screaming its a cruel reminder of our own mortality. A beautiful ending regardless
Even the happiest ending in type 0 is still depressing. I just wanted them to be happy and live a normal lives! The whole conversation of what they'd do afterwards, despite them all knowing it was never gonna happen gets me crying like a baby every time 😢
The FFXIII Bad Ending is actually a good ending because XIII's world is trash. Didn't know X-2 had a bad ending because I had enough care for it to get 100%
Huh. Hmmm, I thought FF4, TAY's was gonna include Golbez too. Cause for years I heard that if you don't have the correct party he dies against DK Cecil at one point in the final chapter. The ending would be the characters at his grave after going through everything else without him. Something like that. Makes me wonder if anyone's posted it online over the years.....
Oh, I thought this was gonna be about how some of the endings in the series are bittersweet at best, like 6, Tactics and 15. I mean, if you stop to think about it, the world is still basically screwed at the end of 6 - magic is gone forever, and the land itself is STILL dying, they just don't have to deal with Kefka accelerating the decay anymore. It's a Pyrrhic victory. Tactics was similarly gruesome in while Ramza is shown to have survived, he is completely forgotten while Delita is murdered for his sins and Olan is burned at the stake as the Church tries to hide the truth of it all leading to more wars. Can't forget 11 and 14 either, specifically Wings of the Goddess and Shadowbringers/Endwalker...
No, una vez muere kefka la tierra se regenera, se puede ver en los créditos como empiezan a surgir brotes. No será fácil, pero la tierra se recuperará.
If I recall correctly, the plan was always to release more episodes and then have a final one, which would be the True ending. However, due to the fallingouts, that never came to be.
I always felt that the Cannon ending of FF VI (6) was rather dark. Technically most of the people on the planet died and suffered at the hands of a dark god of your own creation given you let him become a god from your own failure to stop him. And while you did manage to put a stop to him there was no guarantee that the world could be saved, as it was decaying prior to that AND Magic was removed from the world.
I mean.. I've got 100% achievements on Lightning Returns on Steam. And all I remember of the story is that I could play dress-up with Lightning. My Steam screenshots for that game just consist of Lightning in all the different costumes. I'm sure I enjoyed it at the time. But putting a time limit in an RPG is the actual encyclopedia entry for 'stupid video game design.'
I appreciate the use of glitches to defeat ex-death in the footage, but I do have to question the addition of FF5 here at all. No matter who gets left behind in the void, they return in the end.
Thought would of added 6's a little. Worlds basically screwed after the guy gains ultimate power. True atlest kill him but the worlds lost like 80% and you could loose cid i think was and watch the girl drop to her almost death.
i've played & completed FF X - 2 over *11 times over* & i never got the Destruction of Spira Ending from the game not telling about the invisible countdown timer before u reached & went after VegnaGun. i mean yeah u *were spoofed* that it had 1, but it *kept it well hidden* before u knew it.
I kinda hate when the main ending is the bad ending, like in the FF15 for example, this completely takes away players choice and don't reward our journey. FF kinda loves to pull of that crap and I'm sick of it.
Honestly, the worst thing about 15’s endings is that even with all the dlc, dawn of the future didn’t become the true ending. The in game ending leaves everything so bitter.
After FFXVI, I was actually a little bit angry at the dev team of SquareEnix. It felt like they were piling tragedy on tragedy. If I have one critique after over two decades of amazing games it’s that I’m tired but sadness. This is just my sentiment of course. FF games likely wouldn’t be Final Fantasy if they were different. So fair is fair. 😅 Here’s to a more cheerful FFXVII whenever it may come. 😋
On one hand, yes, all the leaders were vying for power or were driven mad (including Clive and Ultima). On the other hand, nothing was really solved save the fact that humanity lives beyond Ultima’s magic system.
@@iantaakalla8180Magic being off the table means the class system that disadvantaged Branded is gone, and people at the Hideout have been working on ways to live without the Crystals. Yes, society will need to be overhauled but the centres of power have already been toppled and leaders eliminated, so it was on the cards anyway.
@@jbcatz5 I don't disagree that the people who were branded may have a better life for a time, but usually, sadly, humanity has had a tendency to fall into the same sort of trap every time, using a group of people they consider lesser as their "slaves" until it suddenly is changed, and the tables are turned, and that often leads to the ones who were slaves to become slavers of their own kind as well. I hope and pray that we are or will be beyond that soon enough, but that is an interpretation of humanity that I currently hold.
it drives me crazy that im the only one who can see the nuance at the end of final fantasy 7 making it the most tragic and beautiful ending you could ever ask for. i dont care that it blew up in popularity to the point they had to retcon their heavily implied yet not spelled out to you like a baby ending so they can turn a quick buck on fanboys like me. the fact is, all humans died at the end of final fantasy 7. 4 big reasons for this. 1 - it was mentioned in the final cutscene that the planet would have to decide whether or not to keep humans around as a species. 2 - the only character you see after the credits is the only non human character 3 - midgar has seen no human presence for hundreds of years. such an important city would have some reconstruction. 4 - *the most definitive piece of evidence i have* there is a developer for the game in an issue of egm that stated directly that all humans died. i have been fighting this battle for almost 30 years. i dont know why its so hard to understand. yes they made later shit but none of that is cannon to the original final fantasy 7. having the ending thats heavily implied, thats some really really deep and heavy stuff. i dont think any game or movie has had such and impactful ending.
crisis core my guys ;--; you KNOW whats going to happen. its inevitable otherwise FF7 wouldnt happen. but they still make you go through it anyway. and its such a horrendous desperate solo battle while you watch your limit break start to deteriorate and glitch out as the fight continues against an endless supply of enemies. they coulda just given us the usual offscreen cutscene they usually use for this particular piece of lore...but no. square enix wanted to be extra sadists XD
The first (and only) time i finished FF15 i felt like i missed something and got the "default" ending you get when your lazy and dont look for anything. When i learned that was the only ending, i didn't feel like going through the game again.
I would say that 13-2's Paradox Endings were also quite harsh. Like Serah forgetting who Lightning is, or especially the one where the AI program turns her and Noel into mindless drones.
How's forgetting about Lightning is a bad ending?
@@deazee2288 Because everything lightning did leading up to the end of 13-3 was for Sarah
She was Etros champion and turned to crystal after the end of part 2 to protect Sarah's soul. When she was awakened by the creator, he stole Sarah's soul to to bully Lightning into becoming his angel of death.
So for Lightning to go through all that shit to save Sarah, for Sarah to forget who Lightning was is a huge Slap in the face
@@deazee2288
How is it NOT a bad ending in any way???
I like the Paradox ending where Serah says 'fuck the world' and just lives in a happy delusion.
The "normal" ending for 13-2 was pretty harsh as well, Serah dying and the world mostly ending with a time crash, one could say it's even worse than some of the "bad" paradox endings.
The saddest ending for me is definitely the 13-2 Paradox Ending, Test Subjects. Not only did Sarah and Noel die fighting a endless army, their data was used to create copies that became slaves to the AI that fought. The copies also had some memories of their real life but got erased and reset after their mission completed. Worst the copies are used to enforce the AI's rule, making them digital Fal'Cie.
To add to Episode Ignis' bad ending. The thing that makes this ending scary.
When it zooms out to show both Ardyn and Ignis, the scene is bright and the voices are clear.
But when it shows from Ignis's perspective, the scene is darkened and Ardyn's voice gets more muffled.
We are literally watching Ignis dying through his own eyes...
FFX pulls off one of the hardest ending of any story format. You will save the world, but you do so knowing you won't come back from it and all your friends have to watch you go. Also you never really existed
Yea when I first beat the game, I cried after that ending for a week. When Tidus started disappearing I started crying. One of the saddest game endings ever.
Final Fantasy Tactics has such a sad Bad Ending.
Everyone ends up hating on Ramza, Orran is burned at the stake for trying to spread the truth, Delita is stabbed and then stabs Ovelia because she simply couldn't trust him (and arguably him her; though there's contention on that), Ramza and Alma have to go into hi--.... what?.... _What do you mean the game only has one ending?!_
The game was amazing... the ending was insane.
I am surprised this wasn't mentioned. The characters literally go into hell to destroy Ultima and they were branded as heretics and the church covered up the entire event.
Forgotten afterwards (on the FF Xiv) it was harsh..
The writer said recently that Ramza and Delita survived, like LOL WHAT???? 😂
That game is as hard as nails--so good though.
I expected Final Fantasy 13-2 to be mentioned here as it has many harsh paradox endings despite the original ending, which is also harsh. Like all what Noel and Serah have done was for nothing, which led to the start of Final Fantasy 13 Lightning Returns
13-2 should really be the game on here. Sure Lightning Returns has a brutal alternate ending if you fail, but 13-2 has multiple awful paradox endings, and the actual ending that you can't avoid also sucks.
Yeah, in 13-2 you're doomed to tragedy no matter what you do. Caius gets everything he wanted and also becomes immortal.
13-2 lives rent free in my head for the special scene after you collect al, the Paradox thingies.
Is it a scene with some hope? Maybe a hint for the Future
No it's the big bad sitting on a throne indirectly taunting us about thinking we could somehow fix this.
The combination of FFX and FFX-2 were so awesome when I first saw the conclusion, but then I listened to the story that was written after X-2 when it was revealed Tidus never really returned, but was just a lesser part of his total self. Yuna and he couldn't remain in a romantic relationship due to their feelings changing and his insecurity due to his limitations being only created by pyreflies and not actually Tidus. It destroyed me.
Given that Tidus was only ever pyreflies to begin with … that's harsh.
@@knghtbrd he was a dream of the fayth in the first game, which I believe is different than an apparition created by pyreflies, although I could have misunderstood that.
@@reiddutchess9955 nah, I agree with that. Being something made up of "magic" versus being created by other people's souls makes me think that they're different technicalities.
I refuse to believe X-3 is cannon 🙃
@@gabrielpatten6939 I wish I could believe it but it wasn’t real 🥲
Friendly reminder FFXV dlc's were not free on launch. They either required a season pass, or buying them individually. They were only "free" with the Royal edition.
Had the Dawn of the Future wave been fully released I’d imagine a new Royal Edition would have been issued, but as things stand Episode Ardyn still needs a separate purchase.
And it should be noted that if you live in Europe or Australia the Royal Edition is literally the exact same disc as the vanilla edition and the "free" DLC for the Royal Edition are single use voucher codes, so if your code's invalid or you need to reinstall the game for any reason you're shit out of luck.
I platinumed it long before they released the first additional story. So i never went back and as far as i'm concerned they sold me a half finished game with Hollow characters... bar Ignis, Ignis was cool.
@@TheGreatAmarant72 Agreed. I actually think FF15 is a worse game than FF13 (barely). I bought Royal Edition because I heard it fixes the story but I haven't been able to bring myself to play FF15 again.
I remember Krile’s ending in FF5 hitting like a truck because she lost everything, her family, her friends, and even her world is left almost unrecognizable and all this is while she’s like 12-13 years old
Furthermore, apparently at some point she has a massive headache from receiving a mental message. Krile had almost no downtime at all in the events of FF5.
That's f*ck'd-yo. Don't worry, just smash Ex-Death before he can F things up;^{)>
FFV's "bad ending" isn't even that bad because any missing party members actually do come back thanks to the Warriors of Dawn.
Good point, admittedly, I always prevailed. I didn't even know there was a "bad ending".
World of FF's Bad ending was so good. The story went from been good to been 10/10. If only the whole game's story was like that and not just the last bit. I never got the good ending for Type-0 it's my intention to get it when I come to replay the game.
I remember playing X2 (my 1st FF)
Getting a bad ending
Replaying the game to get the good ending
Doing so multiple times
Gave up and watched a YT video
X2 was the bane of my existence back then, thanks to the RNG fest that was the tournament where you could win the mascot dress sphere. I must've tried countless times before I finally grew too frustrated and just gave up entirely.
It was a fun game, but was literally designed to sell the strategy guide. Getting the best ending involved pressing X randomly during a cutscene where there's no prompt to do so, and getting particular endings to a handful of random quests. There's no way anybody would find it just by playing the game normally.
@dale117 That's nothing compared to the OG way of getting the Mascot-- 100%ing the game including a bunch of easily missable interactions.
@@sarkaztik3228 that was the OG way. I was following a 100% guide to the T. Just got stuck on the tourney. Fuck Shinra, man... 😮💨
@@ninjaconor86I actually did so and was definitely confused.
I only pressed the button, because I was annoyed of running around alone and talking to myself.
After a lot of runs I had to look up the missing parts.
For example the quest with the special chocobo was tough, nobody tells you to send different level chocobos to find item and they also must not run away.
Definitely a complicated game to reach 100%, but I did it.
FF13-2 was brutal. Poor Serah :(
Tabata is a heartless bastard. Who can possibly see something as sweet as Serah and kill her?
Tabata is evil
He doesn't like happy endings
Tabata didn't direct the 13 series, Toriyama did
I was blown away by her death. You could see it coming, but I was thinking that it will end the usual, sweet FF way. Boy, was I wrong!
Japan has heard you have a favorite fictional character.
Me as a Berserk fan: oh shit……
I'm guilty of triggering the Type-0 bad ending, the choice was too tempting not to try it at least. Luckily I could come back to the decision not that long after, I'd be very sad if I had to go way back
(and I guess I had a not-so-perfect ending in FFV too, but I wasn't aware of it until later)
I can't blame you. We have to see everything these games have to offer. I guess this is part of the *experience.*
With Type-0 ending isn't there an ending where they didn't die? I remember them asking for another chance or something to the lady ...... ugh it's been a while since I beat that game left and right. Also, didn't know that ending in FFV was a thing xO
I also triggered the bad ending, but my reason was different. I had learned beforehand that Rem was going to become a l'cie during the endgame, and immediately thought that the choice there was that moment. Turns out I was horribly wrong there.
What about FF16's ending? I was left with so many unanswered questions and most of all... the Flower that Tomes conserved for Dion!
That killed me inside, I wanted to see him deliver that Flower!
Dion was the real MVP
I genuinely feel like World of Final Fantasy was Squares attempt at a do over for Final Fantasy Unlimited
Yeah and at the end Lann comes back as a zombie and you get a scary-looking "THE END" title, which was really creepy.
Fun fact with X-2’s Vegnagun ending. The timer DOES hit zero immediately upon the party’s wipe out and the scene play. Had that happen once when I did a Creature Creator only run and mucked up, ending up in that fight with the girls by accident. I managed to beat the fight before it, but exhausted all my revives in the process.
It logically doesn't make any sense. By the time you reach that point of the game its already over. If you don't successfully stop Vegnagun the world is doomed. It only makes logical sense that being defeated by Vegnagun will result in the same ending as if you ran the timer out.
@@jrconway3 Yeah, plus the timer is so long that you won’t reasonably run it out without attempting to
I had no idea about the FFV bad ending, wow that's depressing!
How did we not get final fantasy VII!? I remember watching the ending as a 13 year old and thinking wow do they actually save the planet or not??
… honest question, have you played the Remake yet?
Because these were bad endings, as in not the good ending. These were secondary endings made to make the good endings look better. FF7's ending was just bad overall
Did we play the same FFVIII? Do not remember it being a "bad" ending
@@evolancer211 That's a 7, not an 8
@@Peannlui honest answer, yes
Thanks for the upload!
Actually playing through WoFF again right now. That ending was dark.
It definitely isn't the worst ending but I get depressed thinking about FFXV's main story and ending. Like you lose your dad right after you give him a hug and tell him you love him, you lose your fiance like a minute after reuniting with her for the first time in roughly a decade, get thrown into the future where everything's gone to hell, and ultimately sacrifice yourself to kill your gruncle from ancient times. Noct and Luna being together in the afterlife felt super hollow after all that.
I'm curious as to why FF Tactics ending wasn't included in the list. Perhaps it doesn't quite fit the criteria for the video, as it's not an alternative "bad ending." Rather it's the actual/canonical ending that would give these "bad' endings a run for their Gil.
I replayed FFT, thinking maybe there was a secret ending that wasn't so just horrible... nope, that was the ending, and it was crazy.
I've seen all of these but Ignis dying alone...
If you make a list based on comments, well? You've included Bravely Default before, and Bravely Default II's second bad ending made me bawl my eyes out to the point that I had to put my controller down for a bit and let myself sob. It has two bad endings. The first is bad and I felt bad, but the second one hit me so much more viscerally. I don't wanna spoil anything about it, but IYKYK.
Tactics! Delita!
Tactics never gets enough love. Weigraf was dealing out the harshest of truths and red pilling everyone, while Mustadio was an absolute creep.
FF-X and X-2 Will break me every time
I really expected to see Crisis Core here
Crisis Core's ending wasn't a "bad ending". It was just a very rough ending (and there was no good ending as an alternative)
but Crisis' ending had to happen because we see it happen ffvii
@@seand7042 oh for sure, I understand that. But I think the point of this video is that it focuses on standalone titles with alternative endings based on how the game was played, not holistically (like the FF7 universe)
The only bad ending I can think of is if Sephiroth threw Zack at the edge of the Nibelheim Mako Reactor, literally says: If Sephiroth throws you at the edge, it's game over
Both endings of Type-0 are bad, in my opinion.
Yeah, I used to play Class Zero Tribal in the TCG *just* to pretend that they didn't die in some timeline.
I'll die on this hill alone i don't care. FFVII ending is fucking horrible, very unsatisfactory.
I’ll stand with you on that hill. I like 7 but that ending was just horrible. We don’t know what happened to everyone and just see meteor and Aerith clashing then it just cuts to credits. Post credit we then see Red running with his kids and look at a destroyed Midgar like if the whole world was ruined. We really didn’t get an actual answer for what happened to them for like 8 years when the movie came out.
There's a difference between an bad ending and an open ending; 7's is the second.
@@lissas4152 no is bad. Nothing gets explained, we get NOTHING for the characters we care about, the world sucks now... Like, common
@CYB3R2K except they probably did for sequels. Sucks, huh?
@@lissas4152 and wtf is talking about crappy sequels?
Oh! oh oh oh oh, ohoh....I did not know that World of Final Fantasy was gonna be on the list....oh..
I know this doesn't count for the list because it is the standard ending and there are not multiple endings.
But the ending of Final Fantasy 9 haunts me. Not the ending itself, but the vague implication that the merger of Gaia and Terra cannot be stopped. That the Iifa Tree is going to keep doing it's thing and there is no way to stop it.
I might be misremembering, but wasn't Terra destroyed by Kuja after he learned that he was going to die soon?
@@vigo2669 Yep. Some of the Genomes live in the Black Mage Village on disc 4. Terra's gone gone, so the Iifa tree is just. There now. Plus the boss you beat was the soul conductor, which is why Garland had to come in on the ship and do it himself.
I remember getting the Vegnagun fires ending and only thinking, man Lulu just had the baby and now it dies, this ending sucks
Yeah, that's the idea.
@@cameraredeye3115 Yeah, its just something I still remember is all.
Should have figured spoilers. I’m almost done catching up in games, so I’ll come back in a while! Thanks for another great video though! ❤
Can't a character lost in the Void in 5 come back? My first playthrough saw Bartz KOd at the end and he was returned in a cutscene later. Is this not the case for all characters?
Not putting type 0 at number 1 is so weird
I guess comments were turned off after an hour but reply option is still available. So I'll type here, I truly believe FFX Intermission belongs here as sin does come back resulting in a continuation of an ending that is inherently bad
@@Smalltownguy123 I'm not even gonna acknowledge that as canon until they actually make a FFX-3. Don't care what anyone from SE says.
@@vigo2669 that's quite fair to say. But they did add it to an official disk of an official game... so how do you feel about that?
I never knew there was a bad ending in X-2! Me & my mum NEVER saw it & between the 2 of us, we beat it 12 times.
13-2 was brutal! Maybe only two of the other endings were sort of happy.
FFXV had a pretty bad ending too. Left me very unsatisfied and made me wish the game got its stuff fully built.
The same, especially after reading what they had planned.
@@jennyf-eg5gl the only good part is you can still read the good ending in the novelization
Strong disagree. 15’s ending was great and the intended ending for the DLC was generic garbage. Especially bad because selling a "true ending" as DLC is awful business practice by default.
@@abdieljove2011 agree to disagree. I hate endings where "everyone dies, peace is restored" which is why I hate Type 0.
@@KenjiShiratsuki To be a tiny bit fair...it was very clear both Ardyn and Noctis were Jesus architypes, especially Ardyn 😂. I do wish the ending had allowed both to live, though.
Wow, I didn't even know that FF5 had altered endings.
13-2 with Sershs death and tidus and Yunas desperation broke my heart time after time 😢 my favorite to reply actually
I didn't even know the Nuke Ending in FF X-2 existed, that's INSANE
Also I kinda wish we would've gotten to see all the cancelled DLC for FF15 (and that FF15 had been a complete, well written game with no hastily conceived ending arc on launch) i bet episode Luna would've had some real tearjerkers for the bad endings from what the novelisation had, it's a shame that the team wasn't given enough time to actually complete the game and the crunch drove tabata to leave the company, causing squeenix to just cancel the rest of the planned DLCs
Thank you for adding Type-0 I really liked that game.
I used to cosplay as Ace for certain events.
I should stream the XIII series sometime, I liked those games.
I actually used to play Class Zero Tribal in the TCG before it died in the States, just so I could pretend that there was a timeline where they got to live.
I mean it was a fun deck, and a decent midrange strategy. But the main reason was because . . . I dunno, I just always felt they deserved a happy ending.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 I believe there was an ending where they survived.... maybe it was after credits >.> shit gotta play it again to see
FF16 needs an honorable mention here too. Character deaths and magic is permanently removed from the world and basically becomes a stuff of a legend. It's a super sad ending.
It wasn’t a bad ending but it was sad just like x
Imagine a FF5-2 with Bartz the Warlock trying to kindle the power of the void to rescue his friends.
I did not know that FF5 ending! That is pretty harsh. I've completed it many times but I always did with no one KO'd. Now that's a hidden gem.
I didn't knew about the count down on FFX-2. Interesting.
FF X-2 was fun, but lack characters and when you find out your looking for someone who looked like Tidus but wasn't made me very upset. The gameplay is good and so are the characters but lacked a great story so I have only replayed once and maybe one day again but probably not after that. FF X was 10x better
You do find Tidus by the end but you must be able to accept that there are others who are hurting just as much as you. Or even worse. And amending it. Least Yuna got to live.
I skipped to V because some of these I haven't gotten to yet. Wow, all my characters lived in V and I never knew about the alternate ending. That caught me completely off guard.
Same... I've never actually experienced it and never even knew this was a thing. I'm always max level and stats by the time I get to the end, so I blew through the battles.
its different alternate endings, they mostly simialer, but it all dipends on who lives in the final fight. you can have Bartz, Lena, Ferris, Krile/Bartz, lena, ferris/Bartz Lena Krile/Bartz Ferris Krile/ Lenna Krile Ferris/ Bartz Lenna/Bartz Ferris/Bartz Krile/Lenna Ferris/Lenna Krile/ Ferris Krile/ Bartz/Lenna/Ferris/Krile. they all have differant endings.
Adding a bit of detail to WoFF’s bad ending:
1) it wasn’t just their mom that got possessed. It was BOTH OF THEIR PARENTS.
2) just as they fight Brandelis the first time, they also learn that they were responsible for their adopted older sister Hauyn also being held prisoner by Brandelis and are forced to watch as helplessly as he obliterates her along with their parents
3) the Cogna (machine monsters basically) end up invading the replicant Nine Wood Hills that Reynn and Tama retreat to after Lann sacrifices himself to stop Brandelis.
X2 had a secret bad ending that’s hard to find unless you’re looking for it. Or if you went AFK
Hot take: I prefer X-2's second-worst ending where Yuna gives up on trying to save Tidus. First off because 100%ing the game is a pain, and it means the awful audio drama never happens, but also because Yuna growing as a person and learning what she needs, rather than getting what she wants, and making her own identity that doesn't involve her imaginary boyfriend she knew for a couple weeks, is much more impactful to me.
Yeah I much prefer the ‘normal’ ending where Yuna stops chasing ghosts and wants to start living her life. It’s a very sweet ending.
Honestly, both of X-2 ending are very happy for me. She gets Tidus back, or she gets the carefree life she never had in X.
I remember hating the normal X-2 ending as a kid, but as an adult I respect it much more now that I've lived through tragedy. The normal ending is just that: a decision to grow up and stop living in the past, which is exactly what Yuna needed.
I agree
I think Type-0 's true ending was not really "heroic" but rather "human" . And I'm not trying to say they're not heroes, but watching them confront their inevitable death, crying and screaming its a cruel reminder of our own mortality. A beautiful ending regardless
Even the happiest ending in type 0 is still depressing. I just wanted them to be happy and live a normal lives! The whole conversation of what they'd do afterwards, despite them all knowing it was never gonna happen gets me crying like a baby every time 😢
Welp this was sad 😢 is there gonna be a part 2 😅
The FFXIII Bad Ending is actually a good ending because XIII's world is trash. Didn't know X-2 had a bad ending because I had enough care for it to get 100%
well with ff5 all the party members that got left behind return at the end so not sure it really counts.
Huh. Hmmm, I thought FF4, TAY's was gonna include Golbez too. Cause for years I heard that if you don't have the correct party he dies against DK Cecil at one point in the final chapter.
The ending would be the characters at his grave after going through everything else without him. Something like that.
Makes me wonder if anyone's posted it online over the years.....
Oh, I thought this was gonna be about how some of the endings in the series are bittersweet at best, like 6, Tactics and 15.
I mean, if you stop to think about it, the world is still basically screwed at the end of 6 - magic is gone forever, and the land itself is STILL dying, they just don't have to deal with Kefka accelerating the decay anymore. It's a Pyrrhic victory.
Tactics was similarly gruesome in while Ramza is shown to have survived, he is completely forgotten while Delita is murdered for his sins and Olan is burned at the stake as the Church tries to hide the truth of it all leading to more wars.
Can't forget 11 and 14 either, specifically Wings of the Goddess and Shadowbringers/Endwalker...
No, una vez muere kefka la tierra se regenera, se puede ver en los créditos como empiezan a surgir brotes. No será fácil, pero la tierra se recuperará.
almost first. love the contwnt as always. keep up the great work!
At least those bad ending were optional... Ending of FF16 on the other hand...
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I played Lightning Returns a lot, but I don't think I ever saw that bad ending.
I hated ffxv ending Noctis was screwed from the beginning
If I recall correctly, the plan was always to release more episodes and then have a final one, which would be the True ending. However, due to the fallingouts, that never came to be.
@@Sekulture I heard the same thing
I cried when he told his friends to “walk talk” like his father told him 😢
I can’t believe you guys didn’t mention Final Fantasy Tactics.
I always felt that the Cannon ending of FF VI (6) was rather dark. Technically most of the people on the planet died and suffered at the hands of a dark god of your own creation given you let him become a god from your own failure to stop him. And while you did manage to put a stop to him there was no guarantee that the world could be saved, as it was decaying prior to that AND Magic was removed from the world.
I couldn't tell you how many times I beat FFV, and I had no idea there were variations on the ending.
I mean.. I've got 100% achievements on Lightning Returns on Steam. And all I remember of the story is that I could play dress-up with Lightning. My Steam screenshots for that game just consist of Lightning in all the different costumes.
I'm sure I enjoyed it at the time. But putting a time limit in an RPG is the actual encyclopedia entry for 'stupid video game design.'
I love multiple endings.. especially in RPGs. It makes the story feel more alive.
I never realized that Final Fantasy V had a bad ending! But then again, I was overleveled and too OP to lose anyone. XD
6:24 and Father... Both parents were lost and were possessed/transformed
FF9's Vivi, FFVIII's Laguna, FF7's Zack & Aerith, FF14's papalymo, FF16's Clive
I stopped playing Lightning Returns after the first side quest I timed out on. No ability to explore and enjoy the world.
I appreciate the use of glitches to defeat ex-death in the footage, but I do have to question the addition of FF5 here at all. No matter who gets left behind in the void, they return in the end.
Thought would of added 6's a little. Worlds basically screwed after the guy gains ultimate power. True atlest kill him but the worlds lost like 80% and you could loose cid i think was and watch the girl drop to her almost death.
i've played & completed FF X - 2 over *11 times over* & i never got the Destruction of Spira Ending from the game not telling about the invisible countdown timer before u reached & went after VegnaGun. i mean yeah u *were spoofed* that it had 1, but it *kept it well hidden* before u knew it.
I kinda hate when the main ending is the bad ending, like in the FF15 for example, this completely takes away players choice and don't reward our journey.
FF kinda loves to pull of that crap and I'm sick of it.
I never really did like type 0 so I never finished it....good thing I'm here watching this lol
The first sad ending that comes in my mind is the XIII-2 one.
Honestly, the worst thing about 15’s endings is that even with all the dlc, dawn of the future didn’t become the true ending. The in game ending leaves everything so bitter.
Harsh does not = bad.
Daryl sounds about 10 years younger in this video!
I havent seen Ignis's death and I never will.
The game over screen is pretty much the most harsh, since that means your party is dead and the bad guys accomplish their goals. Just saying. :)
Game over screens usually aren't considered an alternate ending, even though, technically speaking, yeah this is true.
I didn’t know 13-2 had multiple endings
Just 2 of them... i played most of them but never finished
But
The Mainline game i already finish 🎉
That was awful; however, we have the ability to turn it around. Let's do it, for the Crystal!! Cheesy, but F it, let's save the world♡
cleared 5 many times nerver knew that...
After FFXVI, I was actually a little bit angry at the dev team of SquareEnix. It felt like they were piling tragedy on tragedy. If I have one critique after over two decades of amazing games it’s that I’m tired but sadness. This is just my sentiment of course. FF games likely wouldn’t be Final Fantasy if they were different. So fair is fair. 😅 Here’s to a more cheerful FFXVII whenever it may come. 😋
On one hand, yes, all the leaders were vying for power or were driven mad (including Clive and Ultima). On the other hand, nothing was really solved save the fact that humanity lives beyond Ultima’s magic system.
@@iantaakalla8180Magic being off the table means the class system that disadvantaged Branded is gone, and people at the Hideout have been working on ways to live without the Crystals. Yes, society will need to be overhauled but the centres of power have already been toppled and leaders eliminated, so it was on the cards anyway.
@@jbcatz5 I don't disagree that the people who were branded may have a better life for a time, but usually, sadly, humanity has had a tendency to fall into the same sort of trap every time, using a group of people they consider lesser as their "slaves" until it suddenly is changed, and the tables are turned, and that often leads to the ones who were slaves to become slavers of their own kind as well. I hope and pray that we are or will be beyond that soon enough, but that is an interpretation of humanity that I currently hold.
The bad endings when heroes chose the bad sides, until live up forever.
How have i gone my whole life without knowing that so many FF titles had more than one ending?! 😢
it drives me crazy that im the only one who can see the nuance at the end of final fantasy 7 making it the most tragic and beautiful ending you could ever ask for. i dont care that it blew up in popularity to the point they had to retcon their heavily implied yet not spelled out to you like a baby ending so they can turn a quick buck on fanboys like me. the fact is, all humans died at the end of final fantasy 7. 4 big reasons for this. 1 - it was mentioned in the final cutscene that the planet would have to decide whether or not to keep humans around as a species. 2 - the only character you see after the credits is the only non human character 3 - midgar has seen no human presence for hundreds of years. such an important city would have some reconstruction. 4 - *the most definitive piece of evidence i have* there is a developer for the game in an issue of egm that stated directly that all humans died. i have been fighting this battle for almost 30 years. i dont know why its so hard to understand. yes they made later shit but none of that is cannon to the original final fantasy 7. having the ending thats heavily implied, thats some really really deep and heavy stuff. i dont think any game or movie has had such and impactful ending.
Me the 99% completionist:.......Bad endings? there are other endings besides the one I always get?
I expected FFVIII to be mentioned. If you don't mess with the missile controls, Balamb Garden gets blown up.
Because that's not an ending, just a plot point in the larger story.
eh some people die. not a big deal when compared to getting the world blown up.
Every ending of Type 0 was the bad ending. Only the multiple playthrough endings weren't.
Lann and Raynes father was there as well
So many years have passed and I still find all the terms in FFXIII extremely pretentious.
crisis core my guys ;--; you KNOW whats going to happen. its inevitable otherwise FF7 wouldnt happen. but they still make you go through it anyway. and its such a horrendous desperate solo battle while you watch your limit break start to deteriorate and glitch out as the fight continues against an endless supply of enemies. they coulda just given us the usual offscreen cutscene they usually use for this particular piece of lore...but no. square enix wanted to be extra sadists XD
Bad ending?
Check Final Fantasy XIV patch 2.55
The Parting Glass was brutal
I think this list is just alternate bad endings. Not canon ones (well except for WoFF I guess.)
The first (and only) time i finished FF15 i felt like i missed something and got the "default" ending you get when your lazy and dont look for anything.
When i learned that was the only ending, i didn't feel like going through the game again.
Why did it skip 2 i dont remember seeing anything for that part ?