I Played The WORST Final Fantasy Games Ever Made

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  • I played the worst reviewed Final Fantasy games of all time! I this video I'll be sharing my experience playing through each game and letting you know if they're really that bad or if they deserved better scores.
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  • @vanishingdragon7
    @vanishingdragon7 25 днів тому +85

    I played Dirge of Cerberus and honestly, really enjoyed it. That was a long time ago, so the gameplay could have aged poorly. But i enjoyed the story.

    • @WaseemMuhammedIlyas
      @WaseemMuhammedIlyas 9 днів тому +5

      I enjoyed it too

    • @os_wand
      @os_wand 6 днів тому +2

      Same here bro. I just not only played but also replayed many times back in the PS2 days

    • @vanishingdragon7
      @vanishingdragon7 6 днів тому +1

      @@os_wand I probably would have replayed several times myself, but, unfortunately, I never had my own copy. My only playthrough was done on a rental back then.

    • @dantelan-i-er5466
      @dantelan-i-er5466 4 дні тому +1

      I loved that game as a kid. Will revisit it soon

    • @tmaclabi
      @tmaclabi 3 дні тому +2

      I love it too. I'm a big Vincent fan growing up as a kid

  • @Anime-Doom
    @Anime-Doom 28 днів тому +84

    I think the main reason Crystal Chronicles got such low scores wasn't actually because of what the game did but rather what it didn't do. Despite being primarily a co-op game and finally having online co-op they made it so that ONLY the host of the game could actually make progress in story.
    All The Bravest however not only deserves to be the lowest rated FF game of all time but should have a MUCH lower score than it does, not only are the microtransactions incredibly predatory but the game wasn't even free when it first released.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому +10

      Oh wow I didn't know that about the co-op! As as I was finishing that game it became quite clear that it was meant as a mutliplayer experience and not solo.

    • @ryandude3
      @ryandude3 28 днів тому +9

      Yeah, as someone who loved the original, I was desperately hoping that the remaster would open it up for proper online co-op. Such a disappointment.

    • @pichugirl6
      @pichugirl6 28 днів тому +5

      It's more than just the host, it didn't help that co-op was region lock. Making it unfair for gamers having friends on different sides of the continent.

    • @shivur5073
      @shivur5073 26 днів тому

      Not to mention the OG version of CC required a good couple hundred setup for co op which was stupid to begin with

    • @Haseo8
      @Haseo8 19 днів тому +1

      ​@@TheGamingShelfYeah, the way the original game's co op worked was each player would control a created character on a single memory card. And each player would be traveling togrther as one caravan. Not how it work in the remaster. Now it's just matchmaking at each area, and as someone said, only the host, for whatever reason, get's progress. So if playing with friends, gotta play the same area multiple times so everyone gets progress. It was the worst thing about the remaster in my opinion.

  • @StoneCresent
    @StoneCresent 28 днів тому +81

    If I recall correctly, Dirge of Cerberus had a number improvements made for the NA/EU/AU release. The original Japanese release controlled/played much worse. The game also supports mouse and keyboard controls; try hooking up a USB keyboard and mouse to the PS2 the next time and see if the control is better. Honestly, there is a lot of potential for improvement with this game; I'm surprised a remake or remaster wasn't made already. Given the love given to Crisis Core recently, maybe we could see one or at least a PC release.

    • @FelisImpurrator
      @FelisImpurrator 26 днів тому +12

      I loved the game as a kid. Would kill for a remaster.

    • @Ubu90
      @Ubu90 18 днів тому +5

      @@FelisImpurrator same, it wasnt as bad as some ppl say

    • @dylansetright3359
      @dylansetright3359 15 днів тому

      @@Ubu90 Its story was as bad as people say hell i'd argue it was worse. Its the most cheesy terrible mid 00s style dialogue, with horrible villains and a THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP! epilogue moment

    • @tona4x7
      @tona4x7 12 днів тому +1

      I loved DoC, just wished it was a little harder, and the online mode that the japanese version had instead of the stupid extra missions that required fighting all the Tsviets as Cait Sith at once.

    • @deepflare1028
      @deepflare1028 10 днів тому +3

      I feel like they might remaster this game in the same way Crisis Core Reunion did, after they've released Part 3 of the remake trilogy.

  • @edgeyberzerker
    @edgeyberzerker 28 днів тому +48

    Dirge of Cerberus is one of my favs. I understand there are flaws but oooooh I love every second of it

    • @wahidpawana424
      @wahidpawana424 19 днів тому +4

      The weapon customisation is so addicting. Even after completing the game multiple times, I am still experimenting with different combinations. Story wise, I was disappointed with how lucrecia was written.

  • @rottengalaxy
    @rottengalaxy 14 днів тому +15

    If the level up gimmick from FF II showed up in a modern day retro inspired RPG it would be applauded

  • @FatalMasamune
    @FatalMasamune 28 днів тому +17

    For Crystal Chronicles most of the negativity went towards the changes in multiplayer. The reason the controls are so weird is because the Gamecube original was controlled with 4 players all using GBAs linked to the Gamecube to play. Dumb but really fun with a group. Instead of just making the original multiplayer but online with regular controllers they turned it into a matchmaking system where your party disbands after every dungeon and only the host gets progress instead of the whole party gaining progress like in the original. Playing single player it pretty much the same game as the original but it is the multiplayer where the remaster stumbles

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому +1

      Good to know! I didn’t try the multiplayer but that makes a lot of sense.

  • @zerohx77
    @zerohx77 28 днів тому +17

    I enjoyed Final Fantasy II on GBA.
    Crystal Chronicles Remastered got a bad score because the multi-player is one sided. When you used to play with friends everyone would have their own families and receive letters and now you just follow whoever's game you joined. Or so I've heard.
    It was really fun with friends on Gamecube with GBAs.
    Dirge of Cerberus should get a remaster but make the shooting gameplay better, maybe something out of Rebirth mini games.

  • @retrobrandon
    @retrobrandon 28 днів тому +13

    Dirge is my most beloved on this list and I think your review is 100%. I was on that Advent children high when I played it and was so hungry for more lore, loved Vincent. And I personally didn't play the other games you referenced. I think objectively, it's not great, but yeah, 57 is too low. Maybe 65 - 70 IMO. Great video!

  • @NotMe-vv4bu
    @NotMe-vv4bu 28 днів тому +157

    The reason your opinion seems to align more with User Scores than with Metascores is that you actually played the games, unlike most critics. 🤣

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому +17

      Yeah actually finishing all the games and having an open mind definitely changes things 😆

    • @s-wo8781
      @s-wo8781 26 днів тому +5

      You don't know what the hell you're talking about. We actually play the games. Always some people on the internet who don't your job thinking they know your job.

    • @danman1124
      @danman1124 24 дні тому +2

      How is anyone gonna review a game they haven’t played? That’s just a bad take

    • @Gabrielleyale
      @Gabrielleyale 23 дні тому

      Funny you should say that. According to Wikipedia, ff7 rebirth has a sky high rating, universal acclaim so to speak. Well I fell asleep just watching others play. So many side quests and so much running around. The storytelling is cut into tiny pieces if it still exists 😮

    • @danman1124
      @danman1124 23 дні тому +3

      @@Gabrielleyale ok that’s just you, so what? So because of your experience, the critics are all wrong? Rebirth is one of the best games I’ve played in a long time.

  • @XellosNi
    @XellosNi 13 днів тому +5

    "They screwd up somehow"
    That is a massive understatement.

  • @Jebbtube
    @Jebbtube 27 днів тому +11

    Record Keeper and Dissidia: Opera Omnia were both enjoyable, but also exploitative.
    They've also both been discontinued, so there's that.

    • @jackycheung2781
      @jackycheung2781 26 днів тому

      Though FFRK JP version continues.

    • @KillerGothChick
      @KillerGothChick 14 днів тому

      I loved both of those i always liked that they showed the different characters interacting 🎉

    • @the.duck.is.ronin.
      @the.duck.is.ronin. 10 днів тому +1

      DFFOO wasn't exploitative at ALL by gacha standards. They literally took it down because it was so generous it wasn't making enough money.

    • @hippiechick73
      @hippiechick73 6 днів тому +1

      DFFOO got me back to final fantasy after taking a break (I hated FFX voice acting and hadn’t played since then.) I enjoyed playing DFFOO with my kids, and continuing to FFXIV from there. Thanks DFFOO for introducing me to my fave numbered title!

  • @lordgohan5907
    @lordgohan5907 27 днів тому +8

    The number one reason crystal chronicles wasn't well received was the botched co op. We were all excited to finally have an easy way to play the game with friends without gamecube to gba link cables. But instead of creating a caravan with friends and going on the adventure together, you have a single host that starts the lobby for each dungeon and all progress is gained by ONLY the host. So if you and 3 friends want to progress, the guests either have to do everything a 2nd time solo or everyone had to do everything 4 times. Ridiculous. I dont know who thought that was a good idea at the start of production, but they deserve to be let go or demoted for overlooking the one and only reason for remastering that game.

    • @nessless5
      @nessless5 25 днів тому +2

      The only logical explanation is that whoever came up with the idea purposely wanted the game to fail and sabotaged it. I can't think of anyone who would actually consider the game releasable in that state. They turned a fun game into a worthless, unplayable one with that one choice. When it's more feasible to find a gamecube, 4 gbas and link cables than to buy your remaster, you know you messed up.

    • @lordgohan5907
      @lordgohan5907 25 днів тому

      @nessless5 yup. I played it back in the day with my brother and I wanted to play with 4 people but 2 of my friends stopped after a few sessions of the remaster

  • @patrickmontgomery7449
    @patrickmontgomery7449 27 днів тому +4

    Gackt as Genesis is gold to me

  • @chisaten
    @chisaten 27 днів тому +4

    I am a rare gamer who didn't have a problem with how FFII worked. I'll admit that I played the GameBoy release that had the extra content that added meaning to those temporary characters, but I really enjoyed that game and completed it, whereas I just couldn't get myself to do more than a few dungeons of I.

  • @feiitogaming
    @feiitogaming 28 днів тому +8

    Awesome video Taylor. Super nice to go back in time and see Dirge of Cerberus again. I don't remember it to be this bad and now I kinda want to replay it 😅
    Can't wait to see you doing this kind of video with another series. 😉

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому +1

      Thanks for watching! Yeah I'll definitely be checking out other series for sure when the time is appropriate :D

  • @shadowtony8
    @shadowtony8 27 днів тому +10

    I actually like FF2. It's definitely among the worst FF main series games, but that's just because the others are REALLY good. As a game in general, I think FF2 is pretty good. I just wish there was more build variety. There's pretty much only 3 "builds". Black Mage, Fighter (weapon attacker), and White Mage/Paladin.

    • @simonefiumicini
      @simonefiumicini 25 днів тому +1

      Pretty good? The dungeons are dogshit

    • @vegeta2998
      @vegeta2998 3 дні тому

      The game was okay. Beat it easily cause the skill stats on everything made it very easy to abuse. I wiped the floor with the final boss without any trouble.

  • @ricosanchez5155
    @ricosanchez5155 9 днів тому +1

    I loved Dirge of Cerberus, and bought it when it first came out too, even have my old copy of it. Vincent Valentine was one of my favorite characters. The only thing that I found semi-annoying of Dirge of Cerberus, was the need to use Vincents first and last name in every dialogue

  • @EvilXero359
    @EvilXero359 7 годин тому +1

    In speaking for all who liked, loved, Dirge Of Cerberus, myself included Dirge needs a remake or at the least a continuation

  • @Trowelhands
    @Trowelhands 11 днів тому +1

    Crystal Chronicles's metacritic score mostly stems from the fact the online play is region locked.

  • @AlexanderArts
    @AlexanderArts 28 днів тому +8

    Cool to see Ultros make an appearance!~

  • @mechaotakugamer
    @mechaotakugamer 28 днів тому +6

    I came here to see what you thought about Dirge of Cerberus. I like the gameplay and Vincent. But not so much the story as I couldn't understand much about it. That Kings tale ff15 game , I played for a bit, and it was a fun little beat em up type game. That last game is cheeky. All The bravest is literally ATB

  • @FelisImpurrator
    @FelisImpurrator 26 днів тому +3

    My favorite classic FF is actually 2 because of the leveling system everyone hates. Seriously.

  • @femtrooper
    @femtrooper 27 днів тому +5

    Awesome video! I really like the topic and found this really interesting! Definitely do more like this! Just kinda neat to see if games are actually as bad as scores say. Haha and yeah, some of these look terrible LOL

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  27 днів тому

      Thanks Paige! Yeah some of these are stinkers and definitely deserve their scores 😆

  • @Poormrworry
    @Poormrworry 27 днів тому +2

    i find it truly isane that the moment i am most excited for in the third remake game is Yuffie finally having her showdown with the secondary antagonist of dirge of Cerberus! I feel that remake devs really loved the characters and art they made for that game because the only reason to bring back anything from that game was because they wanted to.

    • @wahidpawana424
      @wahidpawana424 19 днів тому

      If they are remaking dirge, they should really fix how lucrecia was written and add Yuffie as a playable character and expand on her story.

  • @RwnEsper
    @RwnEsper 28 днів тому +3

    Poor FF2. Is it one of the weaker FF titles? Yes. But for a 1988 game it was incredibly ambitious and the fact that they were even able to make it function is fairly impressive.
    Crystal Chronicles solo is not a fun experience. Sticking points with things like the tribe-locked doors are clearly designed around having mulitple players.
    Dirge of Cerberus I enjoyed, but I understand why it got tanked (also, one of a handful of games I haven't kept, so there's that)... The combat really holds it back, but I'd love to see it get a remake with a combat system more in line with the Remake.
    All the Bravest is the stuff of nightmares! I'm glad I never played more than a few minutes of it

  • @danielhooper152
    @danielhooper152 28 днів тому +2

    I played both Crystal Chronicles and Dirge of Cerberus; I think the hate for Crystal Chronicles was largely down to it being a Gamecube game that required the GBA for local multiplayer. It was kind of a pain in the butt to get everything together for it, but I do remember a couple of really fun sessions with it when I did get a group together. I think just being so different and weird(and possibly the only Final Fantasy game of any kind on the Gamecube? Citation needed there) really hurt it with the critics.
    Dirge was a pretty fun action game, but again I think just being so different from other Final Fantasy games turned a lot of people off to it. A weird action game around a character most people left on the sidelines in the main game probably didn't do much to endear itself to the hardcore fans, and it wasn't likely to pull in new players who had little interest in RPG's. It was almost as generic an action game as you could get, and it wouldn't be a 2000's game without a turret section(Shout out to my fellow Indiemaus fans!), but it was still fun enough for the time for what it was. I'm not exactly racing to go play either of them again, but the hate on them is a bit much.

  • @ZeusStrife
    @ZeusStrife 5 днів тому

    With Crystal Chronicles you were supposed to run dungeons multiple times to get more artifacts if you were having issues with harder dungeons, you weren't stuck with doing it only once per year.

  • @CerberusLives
    @CerberusLives 10 днів тому

    A King's Tale was indeed free on release. I remember being moderately entertained for about an hour, then never thinking about it again.

  • @finalfantasywatchers
    @finalfantasywatchers 15 днів тому +2

    Even if I don't like some games you always should consider playing them. It's part of the Legacy of Final Fantasy.

  • @themissinggene
    @themissinggene День тому

    You’re missing a bit of context for Chrystal chronicles, by far the most unique thing it did was it’s multiplayer where you and some friends would go on this journey together, the weird stuff combat feeling more deliberate as you bait enemies and perform spell combos. And you’d replay areas to get money and materials and recipes for everybody’s gear so you’d get more stat boosters as well. This is by far what people were most looking forward to and is why fans can overlook the very stupid hardware requirements of the original and the person stuck with chalice duty.
    What the remaster did was give it online play but removed the persistent multiplayer in favor of dungeon lobbies so your journey is now lonelier with more Menus and is region locked as well. Which just leaves a giant spotlight on the games more lackluster bits while disappointing fans of the original.

  • @snoopaloop7878
    @snoopaloop7878 6 днів тому

    Never even knew all the bravest existed.

  • @theneedforspeeder9575
    @theneedforspeeder9575 26 днів тому +1

    Dirge of cerberus is fkn amazing if you know what you’re doing. Need a guide to really appreciate it

  • @Japanimal1992
    @Japanimal1992 День тому

    Crisis Core Reunion was pretty bad. Not that it was necessarily a bad game, but because they took a game with very outdated mechanics and gameplay, and just put a shiny new skin on it without touching the outdated mechanics.

  • @lightningshy5287
    @lightningshy5287 8 днів тому +1

    Wow, a video centered around “the worst Final Fantasy games,” that isn’t made to specifically include or unfairly bash 13 for once. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. ❤

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  8 днів тому

      Haha I tried to keep it as objective as possible by only playing the 5 lowest rated (according to Meta Critic). Fortunately for FF13, it wasn't scored that low so it's spared... for now >.>

    • @lightningshy5287
      @lightningshy5287 8 днів тому

      @@TheGamingShelf all good. I just hate when people constantly take a moment to shit on 13 just for the sake of it

  • @MrFutago87
    @MrFutago87 28 днів тому +4

    Interesting to see your take on Dirge Of Cerberus and compare it to mine. I also have a deep love for FFVII and also played Dirge recently in preparation for Rebirth, however my thoughtsa are kinda the opposite of yours. I honestly think the score of 57 is too high even, like I REALLY did not like the game on my revisit of it. The gameplay issues you mentioned are fuly there but also to there is so much more. Most of the enemies just stand there and shoot you, no one fucking moves, there is barely any enemy AI to speak of. And also my biggest gripe is the characters, writing and just the cutscenes in general, my god everything in this game is so aenemic and boring. And the cutscenes, especially in the second half, just won't end and it's all just talking about shit you already know. Like I practicylly screamed at my screen during the last part "JUST END ALREADY!"

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому +1

      Yeah like I mentioned, DMC and RE4 are WAY better for that era, but something about it being in the FF7 universe just worked for me. Gameplay is pretty rough though lol.

  • @leley2282
    @leley2282 9 днів тому

    I didn't even know that we can play as noctis dad, can i still play it?

  • @viscount8388
    @viscount8388 9 днів тому +1

    Dirge of Cerberus is really good for its time. Nothing special but i enjoyed my time

  • @FrankencteynGamingTV
    @FrankencteynGamingTV 28 днів тому +1

    Dirge of Cerberus is actually the first FF game I've ever played. That's my entrance to the main FF series, TBH. Yep. It's totally different from any main FF game, especially since it has FF7 in its title, you'll have the expectation, but I think it's not that bad. In fact, I learn to appreciate it more after all these years, especially since after FF10 when SE decided not to use the Turn-Based Combat anymore.

  • @Priomful
    @Priomful 28 днів тому +1

    I forgot All The Bravest existed. I think you unlocked some unholy memory there.
    In hindsight, "All The Bravest" might be a perfect name since I'm sure it took a lot of bravery to make a game this scummy. : p

  • @Beastlango
    @Beastlango 2 дні тому +2

    I like dirge other than the bosses. The amount of stagger and knock back they have drove me crazy

  • @PetrosofSparta
    @PetrosofSparta 28 днів тому +2

    I played all of these except I played the PS1 version of FF2 originally then the GBA version. I think that's the absolute right ranking, sir. I think Dirge getting the Crisis Core treatment with some better gameplay would be fun, but I've no idea if it would sell.

    • @demiraichan
      @demiraichan 28 днів тому +1

      Vincent will always sell, and if it keeps Gackt's music, yeah it would sell.

  • @janaxelblomberg7768
    @janaxelblomberg7768 9 днів тому

    We need more playing worst games vids, this was hilarious and informative, especially as someone whos planning on playing dirge :D

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  9 днів тому

      Oh don’t worry, they’re coming! They just take time 😆

  • @july1996ful
    @july1996ful 7 днів тому

    Dirge of cerberus was a fever dream. I remember love hating it

  • @renmcmanus
    @renmcmanus 18 днів тому +2

    Dirge of Cerberus Is not even a bad game. Its not a great game. It is not the game people wanted. But It is solidly within the realm of OK. a bad game need to be genuinely unpleasant to play. And Dirge of Cerberus isn't that. It sits solidly at a 4 to 4.5 out of 10.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  17 днів тому +1

      That's the perfect way to describe it honestly.

  • @ksnullzero
    @ksnullzero 11 днів тому

    Dirge of Cerberus wasn't too bad until they introduced the stealth missions with Cait Sith. That crap made me abandon the game fast.

  • @Whatsdogpee
    @Whatsdogpee 11 днів тому

    I actually really liked FF2’s leveling up system. Every battle had a chance to grow a stat so it felt more satisfying to come out with a strong team because I knew I had to actually work to manage my characters. It’s more engaging than watching an experience bar/number fill up.
    Story may leave you lost at what to do next or u may stumble into high level area, yes. Totes agree but personally, I wanna play another (better) game with that level up system.

  • @bounceycake1
    @bounceycake1 25 днів тому

    Fun fact: Dirge of Cerberus had an online pvp multiplayer mode that was only available on the Japanese versions of the game. The servers have been taken down long ago, but there's videos up on here on what it was like. It was back in that era where every game seemed inclined to shoehorn a multiplayer mode in their game but before microtrasctions so it was more genuine.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  25 днів тому

      Woah what!? That's insane! I need to look this up.

  • @demiraichan
    @demiraichan 28 днів тому +1

    I love Cerberus. The only lvl I hate is the cait sith one. Only one I got a bad rating on. Hell I mean when Gackt is the final boss of your game you can't go wrong. I'd honestly love a port of it.

  • @metalrob6713
    @metalrob6713 19 днів тому +1

    I'm suprised that Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin wasn't mentioned in this video.
    And why it should be? It's a GREAT game!

  • @DanteCrowlley
    @DanteCrowlley 28 днів тому +12

    Type 0 needs a remake, it has potential under bad gameplay, I couldn't keep playing it after some hours but the lore n universe is interesting

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 23 дні тому +1

      Wouldn't be profitable to remake that after the sales of the remaster. Plus, Tabata left, and that game was his project. That's why Type Next will never happen

  • @edwardallen9919
    @edwardallen9919 8 днів тому

    The last one is clunky because ur supposed to play with four friends all playing a dif race and class

  • @gpturismo
    @gpturismo День тому

    I own CC on switch. I emulated it for the hack to make the moogle never get tired. It made the game 100x betters.

  • @darkNightcoreXY
    @darkNightcoreXY 7 днів тому

    Dirge of Cerberus was a disappointment in terms of gameplay. The only interesting thing was building the weapons and even then, it wasn't that special because you'll end up with "low, medium and high" range. In the end, the game basically removes your weapons and the give you a good one that was low and medium range. And for the music, it wasn't that interesting, but the music from that end was pretty good. But the best thing was the lore, the cutscenes... And I also remember to make a challenge killing monsters 100 rounds that was basically secondary but it was curious to do.
    It wasn't that bad but it wasn't too good, but honestly, this game made Vincent my favourite FF character.

  • @e.e.mccutcheon979
    @e.e.mccutcheon979 День тому

    the crystal chronicles remake was rated lowly because of the crappy mobile app and share an invite code and wait just to set up co-op
    setting up an emulator is more convenient tbh

  • @vegettoblack7852
    @vegettoblack7852 2 дні тому

    I loved dirge of Cerberus when I was a kid so I'm curious to see your opinion on it since I am assuming it's on here lol

  • @melissamiller4740
    @melissamiller4740 22 дні тому

    Also doesn’t vincent have an ability to turn into a monster that is very good in combat, interesting that dirge of cerebus does not have that

  • @jonathanlisowski5618
    @jonathanlisowski5618 6 днів тому

    Regarding Dirge of Cerberus's aiming. A video I saw shared that the game is compatible with a USB Mouse.
    For me, this made the aiming very enjoyable.

  • @vandayum
    @vandayum 9 днів тому

    I liked all the bravest. I spent nothing and just farmed lvls until I beat it. Took only a few days 😂

  • @mjdf122
    @mjdf122 28 днів тому +1

    I’ve seen all from 1980-Now what a life of gaming especially with RPGs

  • @cjhedrick6418
    @cjhedrick6418 14 днів тому

    Ah, yes, Dirge of Cerberus. The game with such interesting new characters such as Blue the Blue, Red the Red, Clear the Clear, and White the White. Which proved to me that FF7 had zero further story potential, and makes me increasingly angry every time I hear another FF7 entry get released, along with radio silence on the alleged FF9 REMAKE.
    When was the last announcement on FF9, again?

  • @im-_-dubz2707
    @im-_-dubz2707 9 днів тому

    Thank you for not hating on SOP FFO ❤

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  9 днів тому +1

      That game rocks! Dialogue is cringe but it’s super fun.

  • @ianjohnson7761
    @ianjohnson7761 12 днів тому

    Dirge of Cerberus was how I discovered FF7. I started with 10. I’m trying to go for a sort of completionist playthrough on the PS4 HD Remaster.

    • @ianjohnson7761
      @ianjohnson7761 12 днів тому

      I enjoyed Dirge of Cerberus myself ;)

  • @ako816
    @ako816 11 днів тому

    Ah dirge of cerberus. The game I couldn't finish because of some scratches on the cd

  • @foufoufun
    @foufoufun 27 днів тому

    18:49 Gotta love the cash shop tutorial. It's not explaining anything, it only says where to swipe your credit card.

  • @emeraldazakite
    @emeraldazakite 8 днів тому

    Honestly, both final fantasy 2 and dirge of Cerberus were fun. The gimmick in 2 was a great concept for a person that wants to specialize a character. Too bad the remakes change the ending in 2, where the characters had a different ending.

  • @Beetlejuice699
    @Beetlejuice699 7 днів тому

    I rolled Dirge of Cerberus as a kid, would love a remaster. Only people I hear of, who hate it, sucked at it.

  • @Arg3stars
    @Arg3stars 5 днів тому

    Dirge of Cerberus is a fun experience even with its flaws.
    Is clunky, not well optimized by it's time yeah. But the lore was engaging, the cameos were great and like you said Vincent is a cool underused character.
    I beated the game back as a kid and i would play it again nowdays if i could.

  • @Era_Itchys
    @Era_Itchys 17 днів тому +1

    oh i thought thats a video bout 16 HIHIHIHIIHI

  • @unlimitedslash
    @unlimitedslash 15 днів тому

    Actually in FF:CC you can repeat any dungeon you've done before at any given time, so before advancing a year is recommended to go trough each dungeon and grab all the trinkets available, specially those that boost your main stat (depends on the race used) and those that increase your slots, it's also a good way to gather resources for better equipment, one of the issues with CC i think it's the fact that the new version doesn't seem to come with a manual, lot of useful stuff in there.
    And the rating score for Dirge of Cerberus is a crime, a great game be it for casual or speedrunning, fun thing, it's one of the few games in the PS2 that supports full keyboard and mouse control.

  • @urmanascrewed
    @urmanascrewed 28 днів тому

    Great video!

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😄 Have you played any of these?

  • @JenGM24
    @JenGM24 13 днів тому +1

    Dirge of cerberus is one of my top favorite final fantasy games, If you guys were into ff7 fr you would understand how magnificent this game is.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  13 днів тому +1

      Back in the day it was like finding gold. We NEVER got spinoffs like that. But being objective, it’s just not a very good game.

  • @strappedwittaknife
    @strappedwittaknife 3 дні тому

    Great Video

  • @MetatronAD
    @MetatronAD 2 дні тому

    I half expected Stranger of Paradise to make an appearance here, but since it got pretty good ratings across the board I guess that wasn't an option. It's a good game honestly (Jack memes aside), at least judging from what I've played so far. The weird thing is that I really, REALLY hate Souls and soulslikes in general by design, but I actually have fun playing Stranger of Paradise. I guess it's because the combat flows better there than in other soulslikes.

  • @Scion141
    @Scion141 8 днів тому

    I played Dirge of Cerberus so many times back in the day

  • @TickGO
    @TickGO 8 днів тому

    okay, i will NOT have someone talk shit about dirge of cerberus

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  8 днів тому

      Serious question: when was the last time you played it?

  • @fleischi62
    @fleischi62 28 днів тому +1

    Great video! The Spinoffs of JRPG's are always the worst ones 😂😂

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому

      Not always! But yeah these weren’t great 😆

  • @xLohengrinx1
    @xLohengrinx1 14 днів тому

    Played DIrge of Cerberus, felt cluncky but was fun to replay several times.

  • @BitsuArtcrest
    @BitsuArtcrest 19 днів тому

    But it have manual aiming and the gun can be customize for long range.

  • @rubemartur8239
    @rubemartur8239 15 днів тому

    9:10 actually , the moogle can help you casting spells, time to time. Helpfull yo archieve lv2-3 spells, gravity..

  • @BlueLightningSky
    @BlueLightningSky 26 днів тому +1

    You ever notice how Japan sucks at making "shooters" where you have to aim but are godlike into making action games where you use guns. Resident Evil is probably their best shooter but even in that game the shooting takes a backseat to melee. Dirge feels like it wants to be DMC. It would be nice to see what they would do with it with all the progress we've learned with console shooters but seeing as I think Lucrecia is a horrible woman and the whole game is Vincent simping for him, I'd prefer if this gets banished into non canonicity from all timelines.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  26 днів тому

      How does melee take priority in any Resident Evil game? I’ve beat every single one and they’re all about the guns.

  • @murruelaflaga
    @murruelaflaga 28 днів тому +1

    I've played Crystal Chronicles both on the gamecube and the playstation. It was my first final fantasy game and one of my favourites. They really messed up the multplayer feature of the the remaster. Deserved better.

  • @frenzii8332
    @frenzii8332 2 дні тому

    So dirge of cerberus on ps2 had this heavily going for it. If you plugged in a usb mouse and keyboard it worked so well. Ioved it.

  • @elliotthuff5634
    @elliotthuff5634 5 днів тому

    Dunno where u getting the scores from but dirge of Cerberus is 10/10

  • @FelisImpurrator
    @FelisImpurrator 26 днів тому

    Hilariously, I knew next to nothing about FF7 beyond Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus. I couldn't get past that translation error in the first boss fight of FF7 as a kid, so I just quit and never looked back.
    But I loved DoC. The narrow corridors were fine - gave it more of a rail shooter vibe, and the little secrets to find and shoot in the maps emphasized that feeling. The RPG mechanics and magic-gun thing were peak, though. Something I wish more games would bring back.

  • @vegettoblack7852
    @vegettoblack7852 2 дні тому

    Yea dirge looks kinda poopy now but I think his transformation into chaos is what got me hooked. I loved those moments especially the final boss

  • @CerbearusBane
    @CerbearusBane 28 днів тому +1

    I probably played All the Bravest for about 5 minutes before I decided it was dogshit, then never touched it again. Not sure what the devs were thinking.

  • @CutoverMe
    @CutoverMe 20 днів тому

    I absolute love Dirge Of Cerberus, mostly because it is so different compared to other final fantasy games. And the 2 songs from Gackt. Longing and Redemption were bangers in a sea of forgettable bgms. Personally i would love to see a remake of it, with better aiming and close combat and better bgm ofc.

  • @FatalKitsune
    @FatalKitsune 28 днів тому

    I'm only just now getting that All The Bravest abbreviates to ATB, like the Active Time Battle system. That's neat and probably the best thing about that game.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому

      Haha when the name of the game is the best part of it you know you messed up!

  • @jamessnedeker4799
    @jamessnedeker4799 20 днів тому

    All the Bravest had some delightful bestiary entries. "Far too many arms, far too large a mouth, and breath that can end life. Just run away." - Malboro. Worth it to browse to wiki for them but otherwise the game(?) was a putrid mess almost as stinky as the creature mentioned above.

  • @AzraelAngelwing
    @AzraelAngelwing 13 днів тому

    Yeah, FF:CC was designed primarily for co-op play and the remaster botched much of the fun of it, like having all players appear in overworld encounters where a random player gets control of the choices made, or that now, Moogle Nests can't be entered in co-op mode.
    I will admit that new post-game dungeons and artifacts are nice, but they suffer for the new co-op setup.
    Also, your comments about only being able to get 3 artifacts per year is wrong. You can repeat any dungeon, bar final boss, endlessly at any time, so long as you can reach them. You will only ever get 3 drops of myrrh per year, true, but you can do the same dungeon, or any without myrrh, over and over without passing time and get an artifact, or materials and/or gil, every time. It would be a lot of repetition, but you'd be sure to have good stats and gear as you need them.

  • @AZNsensation24
    @AZNsensation24 28 днів тому +1

    I had only gotten around to playing FF2 out of these so it was fun to see what the other games were like aside from the mobile game lol.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому

      What did you think of FF2? 👀

    • @AZNsensation24
      @AZNsensation24 28 днів тому

      @@TheGamingShelf It is also my lowest ranked bc of the leveling system but I didn't hate it. I've beaten all the mainline games aside from some direct sequels.

  • @sapphiresuicune6787
    @sapphiresuicune6787 9 днів тому

    I actually really like the PSP port of FFII. The new bonus dungeon is one of the best bonus dungeons in the series, and the graphics are amazing.

  • @GeaForce
    @GeaForce 6 днів тому

    I'm pretty sure OG XIV was around there

  • @masterseal0418
    @masterseal0418 16 днів тому

    A King's Tale is indeed wasted potential, so I assume it was forcefully turned into a mobile title; not helping the fact Square Enix fucked over FFXV for 15 years already(aside from the worst offender, Versus XIII), and the epilogue chapter became a novel instead of being DLC. I'll admit, Dirge of Cerberus and to a lesser extent FF2's PSP re-release are the best of all. DoC had the cool idea of playing as Vincent in gameplay reminiscent of Gungrave. The members of Deepground are very cool as well, like Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz, whom I jokingly call the Organization XIII rejects(and Geostigma as Planet AIDS, cuz it acts similarly to the disease irl, and lore reasons). I even like how they're named after colors in different languages: Weiss is White in German, Azul is Blue in Spanish, Rosso and Nero are Red and Black in Italian, and Shelke is Transparent in Latin. The Galian Beast and Chaos transformations were even given major glow-ups 18-22 years prior to FF7 Rebirth and Part 3, which remains untitled as of this comment. However, the game is still very flawed(plus the JP version's gameplay was the worst of all), and the secret ending was sequel-bait, so we wouldn't get to see more info on the return of Genesis unless it's through the Remake trilogy.
    On the other hand, IGN did one good thing in their prime: Inform everyone to never play All The Bravest due to its predatory microtransactions. As a Final Fantasy fangirl, I felt insulted by All The Bravest. It could've been added to TV Tropes' So Bad, It's Horrible, but never did because of the pay-to-win mechanics, though shit got even worse with EA's 2017 remake of Star Wars Battlefront II(another IP from a studio Electronic Arts acquired and killed, albeit owned by LucasArts, whereas Pandemic Studios developed), Raid Shadow Legends(as confirmed by Upper Echelon Gamers, especially his experience with the game's publisher bribing him constantly to promote it, which he kept refusing), and Diablo Immortal(further adding salt to the wound regarding Blizzard's fall from grace).

  • @LelouchRika
    @LelouchRika 28 днів тому +1

    Dirge of Cerberus is one of the 2 games I got when I finally bought a ps2 and I remember really enjoying it (even though I'm not that big of a FF7 fan) but I haven't played it since. I really should go back to see how bad it actually was.

    • @TheGamingShelf
      @TheGamingShelf  28 днів тому

      By today's standards, it's pretty clunky.

  • @projectmessiah
    @projectmessiah 25 днів тому

    All The Bravest was my jam for like 2 days. The monetisation was terrible but i enjoyed it kinda.

  • @JDPetersonFLA
    @JDPetersonFLA 15 днів тому

    I remember playing ffcc with my friend back on GameCube and the only thing i remembered was the bucket 😂

  • @keiyangoshin3650
    @keiyangoshin3650 24 дні тому

    Thank you for playing the games, in spite of their bad score and deciding for yourself if they were good games. ☺️

  • @BaronVonTeeVirus
    @BaronVonTeeVirus 15 днів тому

    DoC got a raw deal. Fans were starving for a new entry at the time and it got crapped on for being a spinoff.

  • @mongodellango4732
    @mongodellango4732 12 годин тому

    Crystal chronicles remaster isn’t a bad game. It’s just a disappointing remaster. A big thing that hinders it is the lack of cross play. Its combat isn’t completely devoid of substance. It’s all about timing your swings correctly. Button mashing won’t really help you. It’s intended as a multiplayer experience and definitely feels better as one.