I did actually use a few of the stray items against the final boss, you can see some of it in the footage, but I didn't think it was worth mentioning. It was easier to farm 99 wind attacks than to get to the end of the final boss and have to run all the way back, you know?
Fair game. The run’s even also somewhat canonically accurate. Now we know a Shinra Security Guard can save the world with endless Cloud-sourced explosives.
This was great "He's got a pet cat who dies in a single grenade, as cats are known to do" "And sure enough this beautiful schizoid in the corner sells molotovs" "Steal from some baby birds, kill their mother, get some fat loot" "Just know that I'm like a firebomb santa"
Gets those almonds activated for sure. The amount of stuff I've had to learn about these games is what inspires me to find more like them. I like the lack of convention, it takes games where you normally just mash X and makes you consider everything. I've got a short list of around 5 more games wherein it's viable, and that's hardly exhaustive. I keep finding more by chance, so this is gonna be a long, enjoyable (painful) series.
@@Caspicum In FF4 you can use a lot of Staff's and other weapons as items to attack, as well as quite a lot of "good" attacking items. Not sure if using weapons as Items fits your definition of items only though, and I'm not sure how early you could pull that off.
8 mins in, the sonichu medallion on Sephiroth and the Yuffie joke earned my sub. How has this channel not been recommended to me before. Great content.
"I've heard great things about Japanese twinks but this really confirms that." I need a fucking minute to just pause and reflect on how good that line is. I'm not ready.
You should be ready, the Japanese revolution is coming. Once that population bomb goes off, they'll all be selling their bodies, and I intend to clean up.
Safer Sephiroth's HP increases based on your actions against Jenova Synthesis and Bizarro Sephiroth. Each character at level 99 adds 30k HP and a handful of other stat upgrades to Safer, casting Knights of the Round on Jenova adds 80k HP, and killing Bizarro's head adds 100 HP each time up to a max of 24,900. You should've only had the base of 80k plus however many times you killed Bizarro's head.
That's why I kept my dudes in the 50s-60s to tackle the weapons and didn't power to 99 for a fair attempt. I figured if I went too hard, I might lock myself out of the final boss as well.
@@simonpugh3731 I'm just going by the FF Wiki, which is generally one of the better fan wikis out there for correct and thorough information gathering.
I think you might be my favorite UA-camr. Been using the site since 2007 and my favorite has changed a lot, but currently I think you hold the title. Every video you put out is extremely entertaining and I love your brand of humor. Keep it up man, criminally underrated channel
Oh damn, thanks brother. Favourite UA-camrs come and go, I know I've had many over the years, particularly as my tastes change, but I'm just glad to be a part of it. I'll try to hold on to that title for as long as I can!
Thanks for the comment, sometimes you work on something for so long, you end up hating it by the end, so it's nice to know it's not complete garbage. Appreciate it!
I don't have enough hands to count how many times I've beaten FF7 and I still learned new things about the game from this view, thanks for the interesting info and another great video.
That's great to hear! One of the things I try to achieve with videos is not repeating things everyone else has already said, so for this one at least, I've achieved that. Thanks for watching!
That was a very cool run, it's interesting to see what items you can get from drops that normally go ignored. Well done, you'll get Emerald one day ... maybe
@@clerpington_the_fifth Aire Tam Storm is only an issue if you have Materia equipped. It does 1111 x (number of materia equppied on character). So if you only have Underwater & no other Materia then only the 1 character will take 1111 damage.
I remember commenting on the Legend of Dragoon video, and Casp said "I don't think I'll be doing anymore". Glad to see you decided to torture yourself further for our entertainment. Casp what a man you are!
I love FF7, but I genuinely didn't remember a single boss you mentioned from the mid game. A lot of the early enemies are contextualized through shinra, machinery, and jenova experiments; but once the setting transitions outside of Midgar, you get random door ghoulie and mental disorder dragon
Straight up, I didn't even remember that the final boy had 3 forms. The post-Midgar shit ain't even bad, it's just a big blur of moving around and fighting dudes.
It's insane watching you guys do all these different "challenges" with games I grew up with. I would've never played an item-only game of FF7 b/c it sounds crazy and like a massive PITA. Stuff like this is infinitely more entertaining when nostalgia gets mixed in.
Wondered how long it'd take you to put everyone in the backrow since you're never attacking anyway, glad to see it was the same fight where the game basically teaches you. 7:17 nooooo please no
The fact that backrowing wasn't an immediate thought just goes to show how half-arsed I approach these until I'm forced to think. I'm so rooted in keeping my melee guys in the front-row, that any subtle change to my playstyle takes a long time to migrate. Also, he's out of the basement now :^)
So, I had so much fun watching your videos, and watching another streamer play FF7 for the first time, I decided to do a challenge run of my own. Materia only. So no vendors, no buying items (or buying materia, self-found materia only), no changing gear or weapons (init equip only), no using items (W-item is the only banned materia), no Attack command, no limit breaks etc. I only just got out of midgar but damn, doing runs like these are fun. You have to change your entire outlook on the game. Elemental materia is useful. You realise "oh.. this means barret, tifa, and aerith only have ONE materia they can equip... bugger...". Honestly, having a blast with it so far. So, thanks for being a large/partial inspiration for this :) !
Damn, that sounds like a sick run. I got that Final Fantasy VII itch myself, kinda wanting a replay, maybe I'll have to lift your challenge idea for a fun casual replay! Even if it was only a little, I'm glad to have contributed to a new-found love. It genuinely does change how you think about games, and things you'd previously ignore as they were sub-optimal are now the only reason you're making progress. Takes me back to all the times I said something about sub-optimal progression methods in games being unnecessary or bloat that nobody would use. What a fool I was.
@@Caspicum Currently, the game is kind of on easy mode still. Midgar (Air Buster boss) was a bit of a challenge due to his damage output and your party's lack of MP, so the answer there was grinding in the train station (because there's a resting place in the slums). After that the main issue is having 3 party members with only 1 materia slot (aerith, tifa, barret), which limits everything. But, it's still doable. When Red joins, it's a free for all. Currently I just finished Corel Prison, with Dyne there posing as a minor challenge. I say minor because Enemy Skill materia exists and Beta is actually doable to get at level 17-19 for Red. So thats out of the way. Slowly but surely, Im starting to see difficulty rising a little bit though. Cloud is now a liability (worst armor and only 2 materia slots), and status effects are hitting more and more often. So Im curious how this will be going :D
@@Caspicum Well, I just finished the game with the following rules: - no "attack" command (2x cut isnt allowed, attack-All is allowed with the Mega-All) - no items allowed (not outside of battle either) -Throw materia IS allowed - no limit breaks - any action as a result of materia is allowed (added cut, Deathblow, counterattack etc) - No vendors allowed - self found materia only (no store bought materia) -Initial equip only, weapon and armor -no accessories -Resting at inns or healing areas is allowed. With only a few hiccups the game was surprisingly easy. Enemy Skill materia is absolutely a must though. Eventually enemies gain so much HP/Magic Res that you need to use Magic Hammer frequently. I only had 3 wipes I think, 1 to Marlboro, 1 to Carry armor (almost instant party wipe on his opening round), and I forgot the last one. You do need to plan ahead on a lot of enemies though. Elemental and Added Effect really become invaluable right away. The game does become progressively easier when you leave Midgar though. And Cid is the absolute MVP.
Legitimately, grenades are killer until the end of Midgar. 130 guaranteed, long-range, unmissable damage. Then the molotovs, despite only doing around 400, are still pretty good, particularly for the Dyne fight. I don't know why the rest exist, but they made for an interesting video. ty square of the 90s
Items only definitely does make it more challenging since materia is super op in this game. I also enjoyed the video very much, and would love to see more similar videos. Thank you.
Playing this game since its release in 1997 and thought I've seen everything... but then there's this super special enemy i've never encountered: Jenova Clitoris! Made me laugh my ass off, thanks man :D Also: kudos to defeating the game *technically* only with items wherever it's possible - never would've thought this is doable :)
What a great video. defo one of these underrated creators on the verge of discovery and explosive growth. I think my only gripe is the audio levels but that's super personal.
please tell me more about the audio levels because I'm always worried they're not quite right, or the background music is too loud/quiet/whatever. i know there're 4 big splits with the quality, and I have no idea why because my recording set up never changes, but I get vastly differing results every time, and my equipment is far from awful. I try to blend them as much as possible by editing everything as a single audio track but you know how it be.
@@Caspicum i can't put my finger on it but it feels like the game audio is not level and that you are slightly too loud but i am not an audio guy so i am probably hearing something else that makes me think that. It's not bad but it just sounds off a little
@@curtisgoldthorpe6656 I appreciate the feedback. Audio is one of those areas where I'm never sure if I got it right, so I'm always trying to correct it. It's a tough balancing act.
As a fellow Aussie and Final Fantasy Fan i gotta admire your dedication into these item only challenge runs. Also iirc there some battle items that can only be stolen and/or morphed from enemies.
From my vague recollection, the only damage items you can't access without Steal and Morph are ones in areas you can't revisit. I'm fairly sure everything is either buyable, droppable, or battle arena-able. I could be totally wrong about that though, surely this video shows how unreliable my FF7 knowledge is :^)
Excellent commentary, love your sense of humor. Instant sub! Oh, and you can get rid of the timer on the Emerald Weapon fight by equipping the Underwater Materia!
Great challenge video. I love the branching timelines of the different possibilities. Wicked. Suggestion: FFXII Items only. It’s a shit start, but if you get Diamond Armlet from the Trial mode, you can keep Knot of Rust in stock and farm for damaging items from enemies or the Bazaar. The big W is Balance motes and bubble belts, but there’s also Dark Matter for one shot kills or Scathe motes for super high area damage. Might be a shitty run, but could be wicked if you could find damage avenues early.
I honestly didn't even remember FF12 had damaging items. I will have to research this. ty for your comment, it may be what eventually drives me to drink
After some research, the Diamond Armlet is actually a terrible idea for this run. It changes the items in chests, usually removing the super good items and leaving Gil and Knot of Rust. Not as good as most of the alternatives.
And stat scaling on most damaging items. So it’s not just a math problem. You can actually have fun with this one. The grind might suck, but if you fine a good chest near a map transition, just running back and forth to stock up shouldn’t be too bad.
I appreciate that! I try to have a similar vibe in other videos in terms of delivery and writing, but these items only runs are really focused on moving forward quickly to get through it all and not linger. If you check anything else out, it might be a little slower-paced, but I hope you dig it.
ty ty! I've got a couple more I know are gonna be interesting, and possibly not doable, but it wouldn't be fun if they were beatable every time, right?
@@Caspicum Shinbok is JP only, yeah. Thankfully the translation patch also includes the solar patch, but it just means that you’ll only ever be able to play it in english via emulation. And yeah, @Gaminggoddess85 is mostly right. Lunar Knights on the DS is just Boktai DS in Japan. Characters aren’t renamed though. It’s an entirely new cast, which might be why the game’s title was changed. Being on the DS, you lose a built in solar sensor, but you can use a Boktai 1 or 2 cart in the GBA slot to restore it
@@Caspicum Lol, I would agree…speaking of older ladies, I hope they have the flashbacks of Ifalna and Aerith’s dad in rebirth. I would love to see her again…maybe they find the videos, Clouds stares a bit too hard and Aerith says “CLOUD”.
I like how you did this without the dupe glitch You are a real man Edit: Nevermind, you used it. You are NOT a real man Edit of the edit: Nevermind, you did… both? You are JUST a man Edit of the edit of the edit: You created a spreadsheet for the non-dupe finish?! REAL man status has been reapproved Edit of the edit of the edit of the edit: you attempted ruby & emerald even though the outcome was slim which gives this run some real authenticity You are now an authentic REAL man. You also named the end jenova, “Jenova Clitoris” I am pleased
Additional encounters still provide some gil as compensation, and some areas have different items, so it's not always about reducing the number of encounters to save on item usage.
Just so you know, you can farm an item called Dazers that inflict the Stop status, which Ruby is weak to, so you can absolutely destroy it with items only That aside, great vid
Even with 99 Dazers, you still couldn't deal the damage required unfortunately. He's got 800,000 health and a 99 stack of S-Mines does about 1,000. With W-Item, it's doable, it'd just take at least an entire day.
@@Caspicum I don't really know how the Ruby fight works, but from the olden days I seem to remember that his defenses get considerably lower after some time somehow.
I wondered from the beginning if you were going to use the w-item glitch. I think its fair game as its not using the materia, i would put it in the same vein as HPPlus and MPPlus, passive abilities that dont affect enemies. Very very entertaining through and through (also Cloud being Clit-em made me choke on my drink thank you)
NOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S A COMBO OF CLOUD AND ITEM YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG. Just like Titem is a combo of tifa and item. Absolutely no funny business going on there, I swear :^) You're definitely right, I didn't feel bad about using W-Item and was going to stick to my guns, but at a certain point, it felt anti-climactic. Being able to dupe Dragon Fins and 8-inch Cannons made it a bit too easy. The HP Plus thing was more because it wasn't offensive in any way, a wholly defensive materia, but W-Item legitimately defaces bosses.
Wow I cant believe you slogged through that. Kudos. Safer sephiroth I think must be a translatory mistake. The kabbalah stuff details Seifer sephiroth (like the guy from 8) and in japanese the sound over the phone for a localisation guy would most likely be safer. Poor guys, pre google! Genuinely impressed with your determination and fortitude. Even taking on the limey! Can't believe I got sucked into this and just had to watch til the end, screw sleeping. Cheers for making
Legit, I saw this comment and was like "Who is sticking around to the end of this garbage?" but I loaded the video and watched the whole thing myself. Feels like I hit a very specific forward motion where the video keeps going. I gotta remember that for future videos!!! Also the Seifer Sephiroth thing makes sense to me, that guy's anything but safe.
That was good fun and some amazing commentary. I do wonder if allowing steal would make this type of run more fun; guaranteed items so you don't have to grind as much (though sometimes steal takes over 10 turns to work at the start) and you might be able to get through it all without selling materia.
31:00 I dunno how many years I went also thinking it was "with-Item" "with-Magic" "with-Laser" etc. It's a DOUBLE-u. Double Item. Double Magic. The realization hit me like a truck one day on a replay.
I didn't realise how popular FF7 challenge runs were before doing this video. I scoped out if someone had done it already, and luckily they hadn't, at least on UA-cam, but there's some incredibly creative ways to play this.
I mean, there's a quick way to do the condor fights: lowest speed, place 1 unit. Begin. Place a unit below that, another one below that, all the way to the bottom. Kill the first enemy that spawns and ... wave cleared. Victory. Incidentally, I dont know what the cost would be, but you could press the alarm button in Junon (where the soldiers are practicing in the long hallway going down). It spawns very tough enemies but they drop lots of money, and items too I think. Not sure if that could help but... oh well, the more you know.
Hello! Nice video. I am the only one that beated Emerald Weapon in an Only Items and initial equip challenge (and Underwater materia obv)! It was a long fight cuz she healed herself a lot of times with the aire tam storm attack (+1111 hp everytime), but it was fun!
DUDE! No way, I did this attempt a few weeks back, I managed to get to Safer Sephrioth before I quit because I had so much trouble beating him. Nice to know someone else had the same idea :D
Better than me, I used Stealing Materia just so I could obtain items to help, turns out to be a bad move since until roughly the Raid on Midgar, the game was too easy with Dragon Scales and Right Arms you could steal
At 9:00 the way to beat the mini game is to do the opposite of what you’re told and run straight down in front of the soldiers until you’re in position. Don’t worry about going around behind. Then just repeatedly tap to shoulder your rifle. The next mini game, the HP Plus for second (
Also, at 27:45, the Fort Condor mini game can be won quickly and cheaply by placing a single attacker as far down as possible and immediately marching it all the way down. Then place units that are strong against enemy units and destroy them before more spawn and you win.
I'll be honest, a challenge like this never even crossed my mind as a possibility. Perhaps I'll give the idea a try the next time I'm feeling masochistic...
I love challenge run videos in general, if I see a Dark Souls one, I have to watch it, I am weak. I didn't want to drop snake into the challenge run depths too far, there's already a lot of people doing weirder challenges, and better than me, but I am an item fanatic.
I think the only place you can get bombs is at Seaside Town before you defeat Yaridovich and by trading items in Moleville. Rock Candies are pretty rare and the Star Egg is piddly damage really late in the game. Plus your inventory only has like 20 slots. I doubt it's doable.
Challange Idea: Counter Challange. Rules. 0. May use Postscriptthree's Tweaks mod for Multi-Slots. or not for More of a Challange... 1.Using only Counter, Counter Attack and Magic Counter Paired with Materia of choice (Start with 1 of each Counter Materia-Counter Attack-Magic Counter + 1 Sneak Attack All Max AP ) No other starting Materia Except for what the game gives you at the start. 2. No Items In/Out of Battle.. Tents can be used at Save Points 3. No Shops 4. No W-Materia 5. No selecting From Commands During Battle. 6. No Summons (Phoenix Summon is the 1 exception) I came up with this idea myself and have been enjoying it quite a bit
From someone who has dabbled in ff7 speedruns this was fun to watch. One item that would help a lot especially early game is tranquils. Those plus back row I think is 1/4th the damage? Also, not sure if this works with switch or not but at the start of battles if you hold up plus confirm it will auto use the first item in your inventory which would help with grinds. Either way great video!
Hot damn, I wish I knew about that item shortcut. That might've legitimately got me ahead of a few enemies, and might even cut a few seconds off the Emerald timer... Appreciate the tips! I feel like if I amass enough of them, I may one day beat Emerald or Ruby.
Great idea for a video! This would be a good video for a FFX-2 playthrough which has an item using job, Alchemist. You can get an infinite stock of items (albeit with longer charge times) and can combine any of your personal stock of items in battle with the ‘Mix’ command for varying effects. When you get good at it it’s probably the best healing class, and can even get infinite elixir with enough experience, but srs it’s the longest skill to learn in the game. You can learn whole jobs in the time it takes to learn infinite Elixir.
I'd love to do FFX-2, but unfortunately, I'd have to source items, which means I'd need to use Steal, and that breaks my rules (for now). I also looked into Alchemist, and it seems you can't get it till Chapter 2, so I'd have to complete one entire chapter, and at that point, it's probably not even worth it. That said, Id o want to replay FFX-2 soon, I remember it being killer, so maybe this will change.
Thank you for using all the “But I might need this!” items that we all didn’t.
I did actually use a few of the stray items against the final boss, you can see some of it in the footage, but I didn't think it was worth mentioning. It was easier to farm 99 wind attacks than to get to the end of the final boss and have to run all the way back, you know?
Fair game. The run’s even also somewhat canonically accurate.
Now we know a Shinra Security Guard can save the world with endless Cloud-sourced explosives.
This was great
"He's got a pet cat who dies in a single grenade, as cats are known to do"
"And sure enough this beautiful schizoid in the corner sells molotovs"
"Steal from some baby birds, kill their mother, get some fat loot"
"Just know that I'm like a firebomb santa"
I was particularly fond of showing Marlene my grenade collection, that one always tickled me.
These are some of my favorite videos. The problem solving that goes into beating games with items only is really interesting
Gets those almonds activated for sure. The amount of stuff I've had to learn about these games is what inspires me to find more like them. I like the lack of convention, it takes games where you normally just mash X and makes you consider everything.
I've got a short list of around 5 more games wherein it's viable, and that's hardly exhaustive. I keep finding more by chance, so this is gonna be a long, enjoyable (painful) series.
@@Caspicum In FF4 you can use a lot of Staff's and other weapons as items to attack, as well as quite a lot of "good" attacking items. Not sure if using weapons as Items fits your definition of items only though, and I'm not sure how early you could pull that off.
@@Caspicum is final fantasy 10 on that list?
“I think my main issue was dying, so I didn’t do that this time” 6:50 lmao
ngl, I was pretty proud of that one
I literally just paused the video to comment that exact line. :D
8 mins in, the sonichu medallion on Sephiroth and the Yuffie joke earned my sub. How has this channel not been recommended to me before. Great content.
Appreciate it, my friend. I'm just glad you're here now. We can make up for lost time.
I decided to sub at 5:07 cause of the eye-fu**ing aeris mom lol
I bring it down to 3 minutes because of the little "poof" after the long fall 😂
"I've heard great things about Japanese twinks but this really confirms that." I need a fucking minute to just pause and reflect on how good that line is. I'm not ready.
You should be ready, the Japanese revolution is coming. Once that population bomb goes off, they'll all be selling their bodies, and I intend to clean up.
Safer Sephiroth's HP increases based on your actions against Jenova Synthesis and Bizarro Sephiroth. Each character at level 99 adds 30k HP and a handful of other stat upgrades to Safer, casting Knights of the Round on Jenova adds 80k HP, and killing Bizarro's head adds 100 HP each time up to a max of 24,900. You should've only had the base of 80k plus however many times you killed Bizarro's head.
That's why I kept my dudes in the 50s-60s to tackle the weapons and didn't power to 99 for a fair attempt. I figured if I went too hard, I might lock myself out of the final boss as well.
I believe killing Bizarro's head actually removes 100hp each time up to the max of 24,900. Or it doesn't and 4-8 productions lied to me.
@@simonpugh3731 I'm just going by the FF Wiki, which is generally one of the better fan wikis out there for correct and thorough information gathering.
Man, your witty commentary on these vids never gets old. Made for one hell of a ride. Excellent video my dude
That's one way to describe it, a very generous way. I appreciate it though my brother. Keep the grind going!
I think you might be my favorite UA-camr. Been using the site since 2007 and my favorite has changed a lot, but currently I think you hold the title. Every video you put out is extremely entertaining and I love your brand of humor. Keep it up man, criminally underrated channel
Oh damn, thanks brother. Favourite UA-camrs come and go, I know I've had many over the years, particularly as my tastes change, but I'm just glad to be a part of it. I'll try to hold on to that title for as long as I can!
I’m a simple man, I see a well edited, well spoken video on FF7, I click
Thanks for the comment, sometimes you work on something for so long, you end up hating it by the end, so it's nice to know it's not complete garbage. Appreciate it!
How would you know it’s well edited and well ”spoken” (narrated) before you click
He's got the foresight of a god
@@1Thir13teen3 haha I wish I had foresight of a god.
Nah, I just have watched his other videos before 😂
I just watched this entire thing and I don't regret it lol
Hey, as long as you don't regret it, that's all that matters. fr I appreciate it though.
I don't have enough hands to count how many times I've beaten FF7 and I still learned new things about the game from this view, thanks for the interesting info and another great video.
That's great to hear! One of the things I try to achieve with videos is not repeating things everyone else has already said, so for this one at least, I've achieved that. Thanks for watching!
The little jokes you're throwing in there are great. Looking forward to more.
the rule to a happy life is to always make fun of things. you gotta make your own fun, you know?
That was a very cool run, it's interesting to see what items you can get from drops that normally go ignored. Well done, you'll get Emerald one day ... maybe
Oh, Emerald's got a Doom countdown over his head. It's just way longer than 30 seconds.
Potentially possible with sadness 30% damage reduction, assuming aire tam storm doesn't ignore it...
@@clerpington_the_fifth Aire Tam Storm is only an issue if you have Materia equipped. It does 1111 x (number of materia equppied on character). So if you only have Underwater & no other Materia then only the 1 character will take 1111 damage.
I remember commenting on the Legend of Dragoon video, and Casp said "I don't think I'll be doing anymore".
Glad to see you decided to torture yourself further for our entertainment. Casp what a man you are!
Finding out it was doable in other games broke me a little bit, ngl
I love FF7, but I genuinely didn't remember a single boss you mentioned from the mid game. A lot of the early enemies are contextualized through shinra, machinery, and jenova experiments; but once the setting transitions outside of Midgar, you get random door ghoulie and mental disorder dragon
Straight up, I didn't even remember that the final boy had 3 forms. The post-Midgar shit ain't even bad, it's just a big blur of moving around and fighting dudes.
Thats y its calld the "mid" game hyuckhyuckhyuck now go make a new vid b4 i kms
Yeah ...as fondly as I remember this game ... so many of the middle bosses I was like ... Wtf ... was this 1996 DLC 😂
The game should have been set entirely in Midgar.
'Tifa went down fast, which is the dream'
I'm embarrassed to admit it took me a second to get this one. Great one tho :D
It's insane watching you guys do all these different "challenges" with games I grew up with.
I would've never played an item-only game of FF7 b/c it sounds crazy and like a massive PITA.
Stuff like this is infinitely more entertaining when nostalgia gets mixed in.
Wondered how long it'd take you to put everyone in the backrow since you're never attacking anyway, glad to see it was the same fight where the game basically teaches you.
7:17 nooooo please no
The fact that backrowing wasn't an immediate thought just goes to show how half-arsed I approach these until I'm forced to think. I'm so rooted in keeping my melee guys in the front-row, that any subtle change to my playstyle takes a long time to migrate.
Also, he's out of the basement now :^)
Eat your mommy food.
NOT THE SONICHU MEDALLION 😭
YES THE SONICHU MEDALLION!
So, I had so much fun watching your videos, and watching another streamer play FF7 for the first time, I decided to do a challenge run of my own. Materia only. So no vendors, no buying items (or buying materia, self-found materia only), no changing gear or weapons (init equip only), no using items (W-item is the only banned materia), no Attack command, no limit breaks etc.
I only just got out of midgar but damn, doing runs like these are fun. You have to change your entire outlook on the game. Elemental materia is useful. You realise "oh.. this means barret, tifa, and aerith only have ONE materia they can equip... bugger...". Honestly, having a blast with it so far. So, thanks for being a large/partial inspiration for this :) !
Damn, that sounds like a sick run. I got that Final Fantasy VII itch myself, kinda wanting a replay, maybe I'll have to lift your challenge idea for a fun casual replay!
Even if it was only a little, I'm glad to have contributed to a new-found love. It genuinely does change how you think about games, and things you'd previously ignore as they were sub-optimal are now the only reason you're making progress.
Takes me back to all the times I said something about sub-optimal progression methods in games being unnecessary or bloat that nobody would use. What a fool I was.
@@Caspicum Currently, the game is kind of on easy mode still. Midgar (Air Buster boss) was a bit of a challenge due to his damage output and your party's lack of MP, so the answer there was grinding in the train station (because there's a resting place in the slums). After that the main issue is having 3 party members with only 1 materia slot (aerith, tifa, barret), which limits everything. But, it's still doable. When Red joins, it's a free for all.
Currently I just finished Corel Prison, with Dyne there posing as a minor challenge. I say minor because Enemy Skill materia exists and Beta is actually doable to get at level 17-19 for Red. So thats out of the way.
Slowly but surely, Im starting to see difficulty rising a little bit though. Cloud is now a liability (worst armor and only 2 materia slots), and status effects are hitting more and more often. So Im curious how this will be going :D
@@Caspicum Well, I just finished the game with the following rules:
- no "attack" command (2x cut isnt allowed, attack-All is allowed with the Mega-All)
- no items allowed (not outside of battle either)
-Throw materia IS allowed
- no limit breaks
- any action as a result of materia is allowed (added cut, Deathblow, counterattack etc)
- No vendors allowed
- self found materia only (no store bought materia)
-Initial equip only, weapon and armor
-no accessories
-Resting at inns or healing areas is allowed.
With only a few hiccups the game was surprisingly easy. Enemy Skill materia is absolutely a must though. Eventually enemies gain so much HP/Magic Res that you need to use Magic Hammer frequently. I only had 3 wipes I think, 1 to Marlboro, 1 to Carry armor (almost instant party wipe on his opening round), and I forgot the last one. You do need to plan ahead on a lot of enemies though. Elemental and Added Effect really become invaluable right away. The game does become progressively easier when you leave Midgar though.
And Cid is the absolute MVP.
Just commenting for the algo. Your dry humor is A+
I appreciate it! ty ty ty ty
Very cool run. Items are usually pretty Useless in FF7 (game's just too easy lol) so it was cool to learn about a ton I've literally never used.
Legitimately, grenades are killer until the end of Midgar. 130 guaranteed, long-range, unmissable damage. Then the molotovs, despite only doing around 400, are still pretty good, particularly for the Dyne fight. I don't know why the rest exist, but they made for an interesting video. ty square of the 90s
Items only definitely does make it more challenging since materia is super op in this game. I also enjoyed the video very much, and would love to see more similar videos. Thank you.
Angeal would approve of Cloud's frugal usage of the Buster Sword.
I really enjoyed that cheers, extremely entertaining voice-over
That's amazing to hear! I try to make it audibly interesting by completely throwing my voice out, nice to see it's paid off.
this was definitely one of the coolest ff7 videos I've ever watched and I laughed a lot. Congratulations on the achievement!
I love it how this is basically a video showing the whole game in 40mins. Currently no time to play myself so I always watch this
It’s cool to see people doing challenge runs, or even just playing FFVII after the release of VIIRemake, it feels almost forgotten.
I didn't really like the remake, it was okay, but I'll never stop playing the original.
Playing this game since its release in 1997 and thought I've seen everything... but then there's this super special enemy i've never encountered: Jenova Clitoris! Made me laugh my ass off, thanks man :D
Also: kudos to defeating the game *technically* only with items wherever it's possible - never would've thought this is doable :)
You gotta keep your eyes peeled or she'll slip away. Glad you enjoyed it, my friend!
Jenova: Clitoris got me real good. Well played.
What a great video. defo one of these underrated creators on the verge of discovery and explosive growth.
I think my only gripe is the audio levels but that's super personal.
please tell me more about the audio levels because I'm always worried they're not quite right, or the background music is too loud/quiet/whatever.
i know there're 4 big splits with the quality, and I have no idea why because my recording set up never changes, but I get vastly differing results every time, and my equipment is far from awful. I try to blend them as much as possible by editing everything as a single audio track but you know how it be.
@@Caspicum i can't put my finger on it but it feels like the game audio is not level and that you are slightly too loud but i am not an audio guy so i am probably hearing something else that makes me think that.
It's not bad but it just sounds off a little
@@curtisgoldthorpe6656 I appreciate the feedback. Audio is one of those areas where I'm never sure if I got it right, so I'm always trying to correct it. It's a tough balancing act.
As a fellow Aussie, and massive ff7 nerd, I thoroughly enjoyed your commentary
There he is, there's the legend himself. Appreciate it, brother
As a fellow Aussie and Final Fantasy Fan i gotta admire your dedication into these item only challenge runs.
Also iirc there some battle items that can only be stolen and/or morphed from enemies.
From my vague recollection, the only damage items you can't access without Steal and Morph are ones in areas you can't revisit. I'm fairly sure everything is either buyable, droppable, or battle arena-able.
I could be totally wrong about that though, surely this video shows how unreliable my FF7 knowledge is :^)
That "peacefully protested him" line just got you a sub.
ty ty! I try to avoid any sort of politicking but there're some jokes I can't step away from.
What an awesome run, dude. And of course the Legend of Dragoon music is the icing on top.
Amazing soundtrack, and it fits perfectly into the run
Nice touch with the legend of dragoon music playing in the background. Awesome vid!
You know I had to do it to him. Dragoon has premo music.
Loved the energy in this video. Gonna check out more of your stuff
I was cracking up. Great game. FF7 is so iconic for a reason. It’s just amazing
It really is. That bike mini game will always take me back to the first time I saw it. Hell of a game.
I have chuckled few times, commentary has got a great flow and very decent writing. Thanks
honestly, a few chuckles makes it all worth it. Appreciate it, my friend.
Excellent commentary, love your sense of humor. Instant sub!
Oh, and you can get rid of the timer on the Emerald Weapon fight by equipping the Underwater Materia!
Unfortunately, I need to use the Morph command to get that materia, otherwise Emerald would be so gone.
Great challenge video. I love the branching timelines of the different possibilities. Wicked. Suggestion: FFXII Items only. It’s a shit start, but if you get Diamond Armlet from the Trial mode, you can keep Knot of Rust in stock and farm for damaging items from enemies or the Bazaar. The big W is Balance motes and bubble belts, but there’s also Dark Matter for one shot kills or Scathe motes for super high area damage. Might be a shitty run, but could be wicked if you could find damage avenues early.
I honestly didn't even remember FF12 had damaging items. I will have to research this. ty for your comment, it may be what eventually drives me to drink
@@Caspicum I really hope it happens, would be so fun to watch lol
After some research, the Diamond Armlet is actually a terrible idea for this run. It changes the items in chests, usually removing the super good items and leaving Gil and Knot of Rust. Not as good as most of the alternatives.
And stat scaling on most damaging items. So it’s not just a math problem. You can actually have fun with this one. The grind might suck, but if you fine a good chest near a map transition, just running back and forth to stock up shouldn’t be too bad.
Your commentary was of such quality that I had to subscribe straight away - This is the first video of yours that I've seen!
I appreciate that! I try to have a similar vibe in other videos in terms of delivery and writing, but these items only runs are really focused on moving forward quickly to get through it all and not linger. If you check anything else out, it might be a little slower-paced, but I hope you dig it.
Only just discovered you and damn, your conent is right up my alley. Fun commentary, neat editing, and ff7 challenge. Hella
That's great! I hope you enjoy your stay. Some of the older stuff is very iffy in terms of quality, but I'm somewhat happy with the newer videos.
Your jokes were on fire this video, lol!
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy tyty.
I love these videos so much mate
ty ty! I've got a couple more I know are gonna be interesting, and possibly not doable, but it wouldn't be fun if they were beatable every time, right?
Jenova Clitorus made me rethink my childhood there for a min ngl well played.
Oh wow a 3rd Only Items vid? That’s how many Boktai games were on the GBA 😳
Great work, btw. This challenge is a tough one.
haha wait there's three? I thought there was only 2. i am a fake boktai fan...
@@Caspicum silly green man. What do you mean you’ve never heard of 新・ボクらの太陽 逆襲のサバタ?
oh damn jp only?
@@Caspicum There's Lunar Knights on the DS too. Despite the characters being renamed for whatever reason they're still the same ones from Boktai.
@@Caspicum Shinbok is JP only, yeah. Thankfully the translation patch also includes the solar patch, but it just means that you’ll only ever be able to play it in english via emulation.
And yeah, @Gaminggoddess85 is mostly right. Lunar Knights on the DS is just Boktai DS in Japan. Characters aren’t renamed though. It’s an entirely new cast, which might be why the game’s title was changed. Being on the DS, you lose a built in solar sensor, but you can use a Boktai 1 or 2 cart in the GBA slot to restore it
LMAO, you had me after the words “Aerith’s mother”. ~Subscribed~
She a qt, even in the remake. Old ladies need love too.
@@Caspicum Lol, I would agree…speaking of older ladies, I hope they have the flashbacks of Ifalna and Aerith’s dad in rebirth. I would love to see her again…maybe they find the videos, Clouds stares a bit too hard and Aerith says “CLOUD”.
I like how you did this without the dupe glitch
You are a real man
Edit: Nevermind, you used it.
You are NOT a real man
Edit of the edit: Nevermind, you did… both?
You are JUST a man
Edit of the edit of the edit: You created a spreadsheet for the non-dupe finish?!
REAL man status has been reapproved
Edit of the edit of the edit of the edit: you attempted ruby & emerald even though the outcome was slim which gives this run some real authenticity
You are now an authentic REAL man.
You also named the end jenova, “Jenova Clitoris”
I am pleased
Dude you write some hilarious jokes. I’m tempted to try this myself now. The item only run, not the jokes.
why not both? I guarantee you'd pen a better joke than me. Also the items-only stuff is pretty sick ngl
Additional encounters still provide some gil as compensation, and some areas have different items, so it's not always about reducing the number of encounters to save on item usage.
Just so you know, you can farm an item called Dazers that inflict the Stop status, which Ruby is weak to, so you can absolutely destroy it with items only
That aside, great vid
Even with 99 Dazers, you still couldn't deal the damage required unfortunately. He's got 800,000 health and a 99 stack of S-Mines does about 1,000. With W-Item, it's doable, it'd just take at least an entire day.
@@Caspicum I don't really know how the Ruby fight works, but from the olden days I seem to remember that his defenses get considerably lower after some time somehow.
Brilliant. Thanks for doing this so I can experience it in 40 minutes instead of doing the grind myself. You the man
That's what I'm here for, my friend.
Funny vid man. I'll have to watch more of you. Loved the SpongeBob quote . Lol
File Fancy! All Items, File Destination
1v1 me north crater
Ill file it under fat
I wondered from the beginning if you were going to use the w-item glitch. I think its fair game as its not using the materia, i would put it in the same vein as HPPlus and MPPlus, passive abilities that dont affect enemies. Very very entertaining through and through (also Cloud being Clit-em made me choke on my drink thank you)
NOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S A COMBO OF CLOUD AND ITEM YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG. Just like Titem is a combo of tifa and item. Absolutely no funny business going on there, I swear :^)
You're definitely right, I didn't feel bad about using W-Item and was going to stick to my guns, but at a certain point, it felt anti-climactic. Being able to dupe Dragon Fins and 8-inch Cannons made it a bit too easy. The HP Plus thing was more because it wasn't offensive in any way, a wholly defensive materia, but W-Item legitimately defaces bosses.
I feel it would a been less anticlimactic if you only used it as intended an not for duping
@@CaspicumWhat's the logic behind Barret then? 😅
Wow I cant believe you slogged through that. Kudos.
Safer sephiroth I think must be a translatory mistake. The kabbalah stuff details Seifer sephiroth (like the guy from 8) and in japanese the sound over the phone for a localisation guy would most likely be safer. Poor guys, pre google!
Genuinely impressed with your determination and fortitude. Even taking on the limey! Can't believe I got sucked into this and just had to watch til the end, screw sleeping. Cheers for making
Jenova clitoris! Glad I stayed just for that! Lol
Legit, I saw this comment and was like "Who is sticking around to the end of this garbage?" but I loaded the video and watched the whole thing myself. Feels like I hit a very specific forward motion where the video keeps going. I gotta remember that for future videos!!! Also the Seifer Sephiroth thing makes sense to me, that guy's anything but safe.
14:48 FF7 is my favorite game and I've played it countless times. I've literally never once encountered a Flower Prong.
Imagine what else you've missed out on!
I just can’t get over ai generated Cloud, cracks me up every time.
Me too, the weirdest shit comes out of those algorithms
"Unfortunately its already dead" I dunno why but that was hilarious
That was good fun and some amazing commentary. I do wonder if allowing steal would make this type of run more fun; guaranteed items so you don't have to grind as much (though sometimes steal takes over 10 turns to work at the start) and you might be able to get through it all without selling materia.
When i saw the title i thought this was stupid and completely impossible. Ok i was wrong, but it looks like i found a awesome channel.
To be fair, you were right about it being stupid, BUT it is certainly possible.
can't believe i haven't found your channle before, beating rpg's with only items is a fun idea!
ngl, I'm kinda obsessed
One of the greatest challenge videos I've seen
Damn, I thought my Breath of Fire 3 one was better, but that's still high praise and I'm chuffed to receive it.
When you sold the Summon materia, you made my younger self monologue from the 90s scream
that's what I was hoping to achieve, so I'm glad we got there!
Lol tifa went down fast which is the dream
Dude you got some good quotes in this video
I'd be lying if I said I weren't an Italian politician.
This was expertly done! Chapeau!
Peacefully protested! haha, you can also use shrivel on those giant spiders to take a little sting off their hits.
31:00 I dunno how many years I went also thinking it was "with-Item" "with-Magic" "with-Laser" etc.
It's a DOUBLE-u. Double Item. Double Magic.
The realization hit me like a truck one day on a replay.
Awesome video. Always Fun to see all those challenges in Final Fantasy 7😀
I didn't realise how popular FF7 challenge runs were before doing this video. I scoped out if someone had done it already, and luckily they hadn't, at least on UA-cam, but there's some incredibly creative ways to play this.
I only now noticed that Don Corneo's two pet monsters are Aps and Rapps
He had a third monster, GAPS but they cut it. Bad naming conventions given his tastes.
The bits about chicken nuggies during the sephiroth fight made me laugh harder than it should have
It's too real. A man who fights Sephiroth without chicken nuggies is no man at all.
a bangle might not stopping cloud´s fall to death from the airbuster explosion... but a small bed of flowers will!
I've said it before, but it's worth repeating - you, sir, are fookin' hilarious, and absolutely based.
Bless you, Chad Thundercock
I mean, there's a quick way to do the condor fights: lowest speed, place 1 unit. Begin. Place a unit below that, another one below that, all the way to the bottom. Kill the first enemy that spawns and ... wave cleared. Victory.
Incidentally, I dont know what the cost would be, but you could press the alarm button in Junon (where the soldiers are practicing in the long hallway going down). It spawns very tough enemies but they drop lots of money, and items too I think. Not sure if that could help but... oh well, the more you know.
Peacefully protesting the giant spiders had me rolling 🤣
Hello! Nice video. I am the only one that beated Emerald Weapon in an Only Items and initial equip challenge (and Underwater materia obv)! It was a long fight cuz she healed herself a lot of times with the aire tam storm attack (+1111 hp everytime), but it was fun!
Oh damn, brother, that's sick. It's certainly no easy feat. Glad to see someone else is trying this stuff as well!
@@Caspicumyeah i love to do challenges in FF games!
Peacefully protested has got to be the most underrated joke of the year
DUDE! No way, I did this attempt a few weeks back, I managed to get to Safer Sephrioth before I quit because I had so much trouble beating him. Nice to know someone else had the same idea :D
Great minds, my friend!
Better than me, I used Stealing Materia just so I could obtain items to help, turns out to be a bad move since until roughly the Raid on Midgar, the game was too easy with Dragon Scales and Right Arms you could steal
At 9:00 the way to beat the mini game is to do the opposite of what you’re told and run straight down in front of the soldiers until you’re in position. Don’t worry about going around behind. Then just repeatedly tap to shoulder your rifle. The next mini game, the HP Plus for second (
Also, at 27:45, the Fort Condor mini game can be won quickly and cheaply by placing a single attacker as far down as possible and immediately marching it all the way down. Then place units that are strong against enemy units and destroy them before more spawn and you win.
I was not expecting a Buff Correll reference in this video lmao
shit boy it looks like you're in the right place
2.50 in the video and ive laughed my ass off twice, you just earned a subsciber
I appreciate that, and hope you don't regret your decision!
37:31 You had me rolling on the floor with that one!😳🤣
The thirsty Japanese businessmen can't hide their lust from me.
I'll be honest, a challenge like this never even crossed my mind as a possibility. Perhaps I'll give the idea a try the next time I'm feeling masochistic...
Definitely do it. There's probably more optimized, or even just different approaches than the ones I took.
As if you needed to torture your soul more. Cant wait to see what you do next!
I've got a few titles lined up that're gonna be immense amounts of work. Pray for my soul.
that was lush as brother, good ol casposs smashing it like always hey xx
Never stop smashing it brother
I love these videos, they are so much fun to watch
I love challenge run videos in general, if I see a Dark Souls one, I have to watch it, I am weak. I didn't want to drop snake into the challenge run depths too far, there's already a lot of people doing weirder challenges, and better than me, but I am an item fanatic.
@@Caspicum I've always wanted to try to make one myself, I do have an idea for one for Knights of the Old Republic 2
You should do it! Pursue your passions! Live up to your potential!
Come for the niche challenge run of a beloved and popular game. Stay for the commentary, which was funny as hell and based as fuck.
ty ty. you gotta ride that line, right?
Good way to counter materia keepers cure 2 is to get a mirror item drop from the nibelheim mansion.
It casts reflect so now he heals the party :p
Legitimately seething about that, imagine how many Earth Drums it would've saved.
"I'll take 'Things You Can Never Unsee' for $500 please, Alex."
Answer: Jenova Clitoris and her two labia.
I know you probably could because it's babbys first rpg but I love to see you do super Mario rpg like this.
the SNES one? Could it be done? That'd be cool.
I think the only place you can get bombs is at Seaside Town before you defeat Yaridovich and by trading items in Moleville. Rock Candies are pretty rare and the Star Egg is piddly damage really late in the game. Plus your inventory only has like 20 slots. I doubt it's doable.
Challange Idea: Counter Challange.
Rules.
0. May use Postscriptthree's Tweaks mod for Multi-Slots. or not for More of a Challange...
1.Using only Counter, Counter Attack and Magic Counter Paired with Materia of choice (Start with 1 of each Counter Materia-Counter Attack-Magic Counter + 1 Sneak Attack All Max AP ) No other starting Materia Except for what the game gives you at the start.
2. No Items In/Out of Battle.. Tents can be used at Save Points
3. No Shops
4. No W-Materia
5. No selecting From Commands During Battle.
6. No Summons (Phoenix Summon is the 1 exception)
I came up with this idea myself and have been enjoying it quite a bit
He died with a single grenade. . As cats are known to do. 😂
Poor little bastards never saw it coming.
the sonichu medallion on sephiroth has me dying
From someone who has dabbled in ff7 speedruns this was fun to watch. One item that would help a lot especially early game is tranquils. Those plus back row I think is 1/4th the damage? Also, not sure if this works with switch or not but at the start of battles if you hold up plus confirm it will auto use the first item in your inventory which would help with grinds. Either way great video!
Hot damn, I wish I knew about that item shortcut. That might've legitimately got me ahead of a few enemies, and might even cut a few seconds off the Emerald timer... Appreciate the tips! I feel like if I amass enough of them, I may one day beat Emerald or Ruby.
@@Caspicum good luck! I don’t have the patience for that one lol but would love to see the video!
That was hilarious. I will give you exactly 1 subscriber.
19:00 wutai is optional. you can save it for later or even skip it entirely.
I probably wouldn't've beaten the run had I not got the items from Wutai at that point.
“Wha-what does it mean?”
I think you know damn well what it means 😂
Like Sephiroths Sonichu medallion
It's just a cheap replica, don't worry too much.
Great idea for a video! This would be a good video for a FFX-2 playthrough which has an item using job, Alchemist. You can get an infinite stock of items (albeit with longer charge times) and can combine any of your personal stock of items in battle with the ‘Mix’ command for varying effects.
When you get good at it it’s probably the best healing class, and can even get infinite elixir with enough experience, but srs it’s the longest skill to learn in the game. You can learn whole jobs in the time it takes to learn infinite Elixir.
I'd love to do FFX-2, but unfortunately, I'd have to source items, which means I'd need to use Steal, and that breaks my rules (for now). I also looked into Alchemist, and it seems you can't get it till Chapter 2, so I'd have to complete one entire chapter, and at that point, it's probably not even worth it. That said, Id o want to replay FFX-2 soon, I remember it being killer, so maybe this will change.
@@Caspicum Ah, I thought Alchemist had a grenade skill, it's been a while since I played. I guess not.