The [Incorect] Way to String a Bow | How to Correctly String your Recurve Bow Incorrectly
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- In all honesty you should use a Bow stringer, but if you forget it or you want to learn how to string a recurve bow without a stringer the safest way possible you should watch this video. Before you decide to tell me how bad it is to show this to people, understand that people will do it anyway and I feel like they should at least know the risks and the best way to mitigate those risks when stringing a recurve bow without a stringer.
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LOL.... the first time I tried, couple of months ago, my limb exploded out and landed 6 feet away. That was it for me...... will give it another shot now that I know correct technique. Thanks Jake.
Thanks for sharing the method. I'll try it with my motorcycle helmet on. : )
@Archery Range USA Not since he broke his helmet unstringing a bow.
I use walk through since 2003 on all of my bows, all of the club bows, all of my friends do it too. We know we can not do it, yet it is how we were taught. No causalities thus far.
In 2019 I actually started using a stringer ;).
When I started archery first time 20 years ago I used “step-through” with a little loop. Never liked it too much. When I restarted last year we had to use a stringer at the place . Also the club I joined request use of stringer. That being said I still see people push-method. I prefer the stringer. Feels good and safe.
Thanks for the information!
I usually use a stringer but I didn't know how to string the bow without it. This will be helpful in case I ever forget the stringer.
As a kid I learned the step-through method, with the lower limb braced against my shin and the inside of the riser braced against my hip. I would pull the upper limb across me, and slip the upper eye into place. If my hand had ever slipped, the upper limb would be sliding across my forearm and not toward my head . . . of course that never happened.
I still do that for my old fiberglass bow, the one I got as a kid. For my granddaughter's bow I'll use a stringer. Both bows are 25#. I'm sure that a heavier bow might need a stringer and can't be easily strung with the step-through method, especially if I'm wearing shorts (that lower limb can bite pretty hard into the shin).
A good informational video on why you should use a stringer. Thanks though!
Then why watch and comment? Refusing to learn... You my friend will always wonder why you can't win an end.
I was always wondering how you do that. I step through but with High weight bows it is hard. Thanks Jake!
I've been stringing my bows for over 40 years this way except I look at the string and limb. I can't imagine managing to hit myself in the face (probably will now). I tend to push more with limb hand than pull on the riser. I agree, learn how to unstring this way first. The one tip I would add is don't panic if you don't get the string set right. Go slowly and just be to prepared keep pressure on the limb to unstring it and start over. It can catch you off guard if the string slips off one side of the nocks. Just be ready and don't release all the pressure until you are sure the string is located properly.
Thank you! You are doing great mission here.
Worked like a charm. Thank you.
If you shoot few times a week and don't feel confident with this method, use the stringer for sure. But if you set you recurve bow daily or more, it's already so long and boring... this method save time and nerves, but as you explained it has to be done properly, so thanks a lot for this video.
I really don't feel safe with the step through method with a recurve, but I do use step through with tradbow/longbow.
Note: Practice with a mirror
Thx great Video will try it with my recurve :) I already string my horsebow with the step through method. And yes bow limbs can twist but only on thin laminated wooden bows like my horsebow with super narrow tips. Modern Olympic recurve limbs will not twist so easy
I like your way of stringing, I have the stringer that covers the tips and I’m always waiting for one of them to slip off while stringing.
Many longbow shooters are accustomed for not using a stringer. Its basically the primary method. Their technique is slightly different from the one Jake showed here, but works on recurve bows too. I shoot both longbow and recurve and string them up w/o a stringer.
I finally got it... thanks
Thanks so much, this method worked for me, first time using a recurve bow 42 pounds
So, here is how you string your bow without a stringer.
Remember to have a spare eyeball and ribs available, just in case.
Or you can buy a the stringer I've posted a link to...
Someone's going for a silver medal in marketing...
@@kobbz1161 I dont disagree, but the joke was to good to pass on.
You're a simp. If you are unable to string your bow without a stringer... You're shooting above your weight class.
@@dirt5547 let's see, veteran, street cop, detective, 2 state Senior Games Gold Medal Winner...
Were you saying something, cup cake?
Very good tip Jake. Thanks I used to do a little archery as a teen. But after many years, I'm back at it. Just strung my 1st 45lb recurve with a stringer. I like your method better. The stringer hurts because I have to torque sideways to reach the bow tip. I look forward to learning many more good techniques. Thanks
The incorrect way to spell incorrect. I tease, really good vid from Jake as usual. Love your channel.
You're awesome. Subbed, liked, and favorited for later. Starting with the horror stories is what people need because it needs to be respected.
I had the tip too far into my instep because I was afraid of the bow snapping at me from the bottom popping out, but doing more tip, less bow under my foot got me the flex I needed for the top. Scary, but I got it carefully and safely done thanks to you.
One eye shorter, I am now a big fan of using the only safe method - with a stringer. I blame nobody but myself.
Pretty sure the twist problem is related to the method where you walk "into" the bow, using the back of your leg to push the bow away as you pull it towards you with your hand while the bow is going behind your back. A guy back at my old club had the warping thing happen. Could just be a difference between cheap and expensive limbs.
Never had any issues with that and I had cheap limbs in the past. You just need to be careful I guess
I love how people will tell an Olympic athlete that they know more then them
I think it's a difference between wood and foam core limbs.
I mean if the shit happens to you, it changes your way of thinking lol@@scottsavoie7072
Thanks!
I always held by the grip, holding the top of the riser sounds like a good idea. And I string the bow before putting on the sight or anything else.
Finaly a really good video on strining :)
Ok understood
Here in my country we have a very weird way to string the bow. Or at least this is the way i was taught😂: so you kinda put your leg across and inside the space between the string and the bow and push the riser against your hip and pull the limbs at the same time. Weird to explain but it works😅
i do it too it's so easier than this method
Sometimes I use the stringer sometimes I don't, depending on my mood also I always string my bow without any accessories like sight and stabilizers also I was taught a different way, to put my hand inside and slide it from there, between the limb and the string instead of sliding the string with the hand out, but y'all should use the stringer is a lot "safer" but be cautious even with the stringer accidents can happen
2 things:
1. one very dangerous thing you missed is when the bottom limb slips off your foot. my longbow shot forward a good 4 meters almost hitting a kid in the eye when that happened.
2. there are now bow stingers consisting of a wide band instead of rope. bit bulky but way easier to use and no knots in there.
some people have skills and some don't. You obviously need to stick with a bow stringer.
@@ultimatejay 03:18 Tell that to Kaminski as well.
I mean that could be so many things, could be your shoe, could be how the longbow is made. Also I dont think I recurve would act the same, seems like you are pushing it into your foot too much but longbow is probably a lot more raw power and yours is probs high poundage too I assume.
@@Moogle 37 pound so not that heavy. It slipped off my foot indeed. Didn't put it all the way to the floor but halfway on my foot.
Recurve is harder to string due to the curve, requires more dexterity. With ilf limbs I wouldn't even do it because of risking to pull a limb out
Hi Jake, quick question, is there a benefit of twisting the string around giving it a coiled look before applying it to the limbs? is it recommended or not?
It's an aid to set the height of of your string "brace height" by twisting the string you're actually shorting it, which can give your bow a higher Brace height! All bows have a recommended brace height which is measured from where you hold the bow to the string, eg. I set my brace height on my Samick Sage at 8 inches.
Rather safety first than remorse second...
I've had a tip to tip stringer pop off a almost strung 45# bow, the bow shot up with enough force the limb bolt smacked me under the chin, left a nice lump for a few days. Let's say I use limb to tip on that particular bow now, not temping fate again. Still use a tip to tip on the rest of my bow though.
Hi Jake, I string my bow in this way both recurve and longbow. The problem is my torse muscles in the hip and ribcage area get strained. What am I doing wrong? If you could let me know I would really appreciate your input.
Thank you, love your videos
Jake.
Hi, how are you doing
Kindly I want to k ow your sight brand name and the stabilizer brand name, thanks for all the valuable information you give.
Can you please talk about shooting out side and Indoors is it gone effect on the grouping and what to do in this case?
Thanks
I also use a different method where you step between the string and bow, with the curved part of the bow hooked around my achilles. That way if the bow slips it won’t hit me in the face and I’m also not bending my body. Dunno if it’s any better/easier tho.
that's a good way to warp your limbs. there's a reason archers do it.
Put the tip on your toe if the shoe when doing that. Less twist.
Thank you for your videos. I am just starting out learning using a bow and I find your videos very helpful. I have a question that didn't come up in this video but when to unstring a bow? Just starting out, other stated it's fine to leave it strung, or the opposite, you will ruin your bow!
depends if its recurve or compound, recurve you don't wanna leave strung if you can help it... it really isnt much effort or time to restring it every time.
i love my stringer and i don't string my bow without it, i have two in case i forgot one :)
*backs away slowly *
It happened to me just today at the shooting range. My hand was sweaty and slipped off the limb as I released the ring from the tip. Luckily I was looking in the opposite direction, as always, so the limb just smashed my head. I am genuinely shocked at how hard it hit me! Scary.
If you want to use a stringer, I recommend one that fits to the tip and the other end on the limb.
The tip-to-tip stringer: the smaller pocket has to be small enough to keep the groove free for the string. This smaller pocket (especially rubber one) can wear out and snap.
Limb-to-limb stringer: when the limb is wet and slippery, both ends are going to slide on the limb and you have only one free hand to keep it in place.
So limb-to-tip stringers are by design the best IMHO. I recommend the Avalon stringer. It's cheap but strong.
When I got above 30 pounds, I could no longer use the Avalon stringer... all the work was in the arm lifting up the bow, instead of the body, and then I struggled with reaching the tip to put on the string. Maybe small people problems? I'm 160cm (5'3"). Tip-to-tip however, does wonders.
@@ZanthiaAlchemistress old comment, but have you tried putting the strap under both feet? The wider you set your feet, the lower the bow will be.
Yep I had a small rubber tip break and it was only a couple of weeks old while stringing a 45# recurve.
Much love Jake but a full picture would've helped; unless that was intentional for legal reasons! 😉
🤓👍Great video, but be discipline and be aware enough not to forget your bow stringer, also but two..🙏
This is very helpful, but I don't have a takedown. Its wooden and has string rests on the limbs. Those rests get in the way of the motion suggested. I also am still paranoid about propping the tip against my foot as it is wood. My current method seems safer as the limbs do not face me, but I worry if I am damaging my bow based on where I am pushing.
I have been hooking the curve of the limb against the inside of my calf or ankle area and pushing my knee against the grip in a moderately wide stance. Because of this, the limbs never face me and I use a lot of trunk strength to bend it while in this position. Should I be focusing the pressure on the tips or is it ok to press against the limbs farther down into the curve?
??? the limb just sits against your shoe for stability its not doing anything to it. Just dont step on the limb lol
Friends, what about hunting recurves at 50+ lbs. ? Seems a little harder, does this still work?
Thank you
I hate stringer, a few times the top holder pop out while pushing the loop to the slot. Some even cover the top loop and make it difficult to unstring. Usually my kids will help each other. I've seen a different way to self-string but with higher poundage, it becomes difficult. Will try your method to compare which is better. Some coaches hate seeing the lower limb being pushed to the ground. The tip could just fall off and bye-bye to the limb. Thanks for the video.
On other issues.
1. Do you have a rule of thumbs, for the number of strings for a certain poundage? 16 strings for up to 32 lbs, 18 strings for up to 40lbs and 22 strings for anything above 40lbs?
2. How do you read the arrow chart? The poundage referred is the real figure or the printed figure on the limbs and the in-between length of arrows. Very rare that the length of the arrow is a solid number. Also where is the position of the clicker to correctly measure the length of the arrow as referred in the chart.
How about the step through method? That's what I learned when I was younger. Does that work?
I think that is the best method to use.
Hi Jake,
First time i have ever disagreed with you and I have to go the other way on this one. Safest for you and your bow is a stringer. Juat like seat belts in a car, you may not like them but they save lives and the bow stringer will be safest for you and your bow.
Also I always use a tip protector to keep my lower string attached properly and to protect the lower limb tip from any abrasions. As expensive as limbs are, I treat them like babies, no ground touches and theyvakways will look like new with a tip protector.
Just my opinion, but I never have a bow strung without a bow stringer and without having a tip protector on my lower limb.
Rick Mansberger
Redmond Sports Group
Jake
Hi can you show us where u put the lower part, let the camera show full please.
Thanks.
I show that in the video. Maybe 5/8ths the way through.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery thank you for your timing and ur supporting and ur delegation for this sport, I wish all to take u idol for them.
I like your video...I don't know if you've made a video on longbows...please let me explain the difference in stringing from nearly 70 years of experience...with a longbow (if you're not using a bow-stringer) the push-pull method is the best (how you are describing it)...not to prevent losing an eye (you can't lose an eye stringing a longbow like this) let me explain...the step through method on the other hand, can permanently ruin your bow by twisting the limbs...I've personally seen longbows from 75# to 110# (even brand new) ruined because they strung it with the 'step through method'...WHY?...because with the longbow the handle usually sticks out on the belly and with using the step through method, your thigh pushes the handle to one side and twists the limbs while your string it.
Your description of stringing the bow sounds a lot like your form video. Just the way you describe them sounds familiar.
Hey Jake, do youhave a picture of how to hook it at your foot without stepping on it so the limb has potential for damage?
Yes the second shot of the close up foot was correct.
@@JakeKaminskiArcherythanks!
How about the step through method? Many years ago everyone I saw or was taught used the step through method, where you step through/between the string and the bow with your right leg, wrap the curved lower limb over the outside curved top of your left foot arch, the riser is behind your right thigh locking the bow in place, and you easily press your upper right limb away from you as you slide the string up to catch on the upper right limb. If anything happen there are no bow parts moving towards your head or torso.
I'm surprised you didn't suggest trying with lower poundage bows first, that is what I would suggest. You are right though, unstringing is way easier and I do it this way all the time.
Side note: I've actually had a knot on my stringer that holds the rubber tip come undone in the middle of stringing a bow resulting in a limbs flying through the air. I re-tied the knots with a figure 8 knot to make sure it didn't happen again.
Needing help stringing my bow. Can i have a one on one possible?
now that i moved up to heavier limbs (45lbs on the fingers) a bowstringer is simply painful to use. From what i gather your lattimus dorsi takes such a huge load bending sideways you really risk getting it fucked up. This way uses a much more natural movement that doesn't overload your back.
My limbs have screws that hold them in... like big ass bolts that you can’t remove the limbs without removing first.
ngl its really tough for me to do my 72" 24# recurve like this, I mean I am weak and unfit so I'm not surprised but more curious if im doing something wrong
What about 'Step through' method. Lot of people do it, but I heard it isn't safe.
That method hurts my legs, tbh I don't like that one and as a matter of fact I've never been able to string my 40 pound bow with that method
@@oscarkorlowsky4938 But I watch Sur viral Lilly, in her video she does this almost every time when she strings a bow.
Anyone can you help a newbie out .?. I have a kinetic vygo and wns limbs.. I string my bow just like this in fact I learned from this exact video thanks jake, when I was stringing it this morning and the bottom did not fully set into the tip I went to pluck and the string flew backdown the limb.. my brace height changed and my draw was super light I scaled it multipletimes and it was anywhere from 5 to 10# huh😮 I changed string and readjusted my brace height my poundage was measured multiple times again and it was 22-25# better but super inconsistent… I’m less than a month into my archery adventure and I’m clueless what to check or even do. I’ve visually inspected everything and see no imperfections or damage…
In Ukraine we bend it over back.
Few advantages over your method:
- super safe,
- you support the weight with your abdominal muscles,
- you don’t care of loop length (which should be slightly longer for your method)
At what weight does this not work anymore? I can do it easy with my 35 and 40 lb limbs but my 55# limbs are impossible so far
I prefer the strap stringers.
Welp I just got my stringer and it doesn’t fit my bow. Mine is an Asian bow, a Tasi, and instead of the tip being horizontal with the ground it’s vertical… soooo the stringer pulls it slightly to the side anyway as that’s the only way to get the tip in there. Luckily I won’t have issues with limbs popping out or hitting my eye since it’s one solid piece of 50” wood.
Wat happened to me is the string popped out on the bottom limb and twisted the limb but so far its fine
Honestly, if you buy the correct Bow Stringer, it never makes knots. It depends on the type of cord the Bow Stringer is made of...
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What about traditional recurves?
also wouldnt recommend this method if its really hot and your sweat a lot, very slippy. If you are unsure just use a stringer, I know guys that have been competing for years that still use them. DOn't feel any pressure to learn a specific way but having both methods is nice incase you forget your stringer.. though you'll usually be able to find one tbh.
you dont show the bottom and how you are holding it firm.
I’ll use a stringer ... thanks anyway...
Then why watch and comment? Refusing to learn... You my friend will always wonder why you can't win an end.
Oh well with that crappy stringer I wouldn’t do it myself. A good one instead, wider and stable like mine it’s just a pleasure, it takes literally 5 seconds to string and pain free. Also I don’t risk to brake a limb (talking by experience)
How did you break a limb? That stringer I have is from HOYT haha.
I wacked myself in the face yesterday doing this
Even if I usually I use a stringer (99%) on rare occasions I do it without and I use my legs to bent the bow ("step through" method) and to string it (I learn the method from my first instructor). This method seems less risky. What do you think? (NuSensei: ua-cam.com/video/v3vjTH31v60/v-deo.html)
I don’t like it, tried it scared me too much, plus it won’t work for a tec riser, or with your V bars on.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Seems like in the "1%", I never had the stabilisers mounted and I agree with this. Scared? To me seems less riskier (of loosing an eye) to self injury (maybe to others if too close).
@@JakeKaminskiArchery i only use this method and always with both sidebars already mounted... Why won't work with vbar on?
Herrera Gonza I have 16” side rods. And 3” extension
4:25 this doesn't work with formula bows
It does, had to use it on formulas specifically.
A safe way to see what you are doing is to watch yourself in a mirror?
However, I have to use a stringer as I only have 1 leg and am prone to falling over! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
You should not have the sight on the bow when you string it.
Why not?
I'm a novice ,I use a stringer, do it the right way ,it easy safe, park the ego
just use a stringer... safety first. not yours but other people around you...
The only accident I had when stringing, was with the stringer. Will never use it again. Step trough is the way to go.
@@Jari_Kuusisto you are on the right track to hurt either yourself or someone else
@@dnakoldarkside6358 : Yeah, if you don't know what you are doing.
@@Jari_Kuusisto safety comes first. always.
@@dnakoldarkside6358 : I agree. It's however rather impossible to hurt yourself or other with step through. 30 years and counting...
"Incorrect"
I promise you the limb will twist
or wear SAFETY GLASSES?
I don't understant why people never use a stringer. please don't listen him, do you realize that kids can try this and hurt themself ? it only takes 10 sec more with a stringer.
Watch my video and I explain why I did this video.
How about just using the stringer like you are don’t have cash to spare for hospital and gear XD
Be honest…you wearing that jacket inside to brag? 😜
I noticed in quite a few of these videos you are talking about things in the lower half of the body eg stringing your bow, the correct stance and feet position in the KSL cycle overview BUT we CANNOT SEE what your feet are doing on the UA-cam frame - as you are decsribing it using your hands !!!!!!
Easier to show my concept with my hands since my feet are on the ground and unable to move. In the early videos of the form series I showed close-ups of my feet when relevant.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Huh? Just move the camera back a bit or fix a wider angle lens ?
*DUHH.......WE NEED TO SEE WHERE YOUR FEET ARE AT!!!!*
*NO HELP AT ALL, WHATSOEVER!!!*
Why not use the ‘step through’ technique?? 100% a better way to string a bow.