Hi Jake. Some years ago, I was looking for a video about movable nockpoint and found your old video (with white paper stick in your shirt :) ) . I've learn alot and still use your method. Thank you again.
Very nice, I've adopted it. A small point: you were not tying 'granny knots' but double overhand knots. The final part would be better as a reef know (which is probably what you actually tied) than a granny knot, too.
Nice! Thanks. Using a cord or rope on a dowel, or a piece of closet pole would make it much easier to see though. Or different colors serving and nock material.
Every time I need to do something, I think 'I wonder if Jake has a video...?' OF COURSE HE DOES!! and more than that, its better explained than any other video I seem to be able to find. Thank you Jake.
I don't get why people seem to like even tiller for barebow. Wouldn't you want the pressure in the bow hand to be as far down as possible? And the back of the arrow up as high as possible? Basically having the arrow parallel (but higher) to the actual pressure points between both hands?
Jake, when you wrap the permanent NP's, do you take into consideration the direction the center serving is wound? As in, do you try and wrap the same direction as the center serving? Or opposite?
When you're bareshaft tuning, do you prefer to have them above, below, or right in the middle of your fletched group (in terms of nock high or nock low)?
Jake, if you do a follow up, Mel had a cool set up to show proper D-loop that I think you could use for this. Use one color rope for the string and another color rope for the nock points... it's big and EZ to see. you could even wrap the 'nock' rope with different color tape or something to show the different parts of it.
Just a complete idiots question here. Been in and out of archery for a few years, but I just do not see the purpose, or reasoning behind all these “tie on nock points”. What exactly is so wrong with the forever tried and true brass nocks? Is simplicity just too much a draw back. I cannot for the life of me, see how a nocks got so complicated. You all call these permanent yet all you do is cut them off and retire them. I find with 3 under shooting with no string walking, I can still just use one good brass nocking point on the top side and that’s that. I do like the looks of the tie on nocks, but after many attempts, mine don’t stay nice and the brass ones are no worse for wear after years of service. Just saying, there sure is a bunch of complexity here with a pretty simple thing as an arrow nock on a string.
Adds unnecessary and (usually) undesirable weight on the string and also wrecks tabs. No big deal if you shoot thirty arrows every couple of months but 1000+ arrows a week, tab's gonna be ripped to shreds if you're shooting properly (or trying to).
I run my nock thread through some hot-melt glue before tying it on. That way, when you melt your ends, it also heats up the glue and it becomes more permanent.
Hello Jake, I started archery again after a long long break. I wanted to say thank you for all your content. The nocking points are great. Today I tied some movables, because I made a new string on Saturday. Your content is great and helps alot. I am glad, that I found your channel. It's fun to watch and a lot of great tips. Best greetings from Germany. Daniel
I tie my nocking points with the string-material leftover from string making and seal it with pure beeswax. They had never slip or come loose. Greetings from Germany, I love your series. I shoot instinctive barebow, so welcome to the club :-)
I'm interested to see what you think of Barebow nocking point locations. The angle of the string/nock attachment, when crawling down the string, tends to induce downward force on the front of the nock and upward force on the back of the nock. I've tried various solutions to this problem, but your experience will probably give you some better ideas.
Gotta be honest Jake, it is really hard to see what you are doing when you are tying the permanent nocking points. I think a couple things would really help- use thread that is a different color than the serving. The black on black is very difficult to see what is going on. And two, even more important, illustrate the whole process, the wrapping and knots, using some sort of larger, easier to see model. Maybe use a broom stick sized dowel to represent the bow string and paracord to represent the nock thread. As it is I'm trying to follow you and am not having any success. Thanks
It's kind of "traditional" in the UK to use Dental Floss, but I've had even better results using spare string material (e.g. Fast Flight, etc.) and then supergluing it.
Thanks for that, it all made a lot of sense and was very clear. I'm sure I've heard that super glue can degrade string material. Anyone got any real evidence of that?
"Smoothing" will be the addition to my normal method - Thank You! We do everything else exactly the same, although I end by pulling the loop through with a different piece of serving - just preference ;).
If you plan on shooting BB three under, you might find you need more play between nock and nocking points given the string angles produced.
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Hi Jake. Some years ago, I was looking for a video about movable nockpoint and found your old video (with white paper stick in your shirt :) ) . I've learn alot and still use your method. Thank you again.
Great way to enjoy serving the nocking point.
Thanks
Very nice, I've adopted it. A small point: you were not tying 'granny knots' but double overhand knots. The final part would be better as a reef know (which is probably what you actually tied) than a granny knot, too.
Nice! Thanks. Using a cord or rope on a dowel, or a piece of closet pole would make it much easier to see though. Or different colors serving and nock material.
My thoughts exactly !!
Great tips! I like the nocking point very tight too,but when stringwalking it had pinched the nock. I made a looser nock and that was it ...
Every time I need to do something, I think 'I wonder if Jake has a video...?' OF COURSE HE DOES!! and more than that, its better explained than any other video I seem to be able to find. Thank you Jake.
you make it look so easy!
blessings and thanks
Thanks!
Great info but maybe next time use a contrasting color to the serving as it makes it easier to see where the nock is :)
Franc Schiphorst , I like the contrasting calor.
wow
I don't get why people seem to like even tiller for barebow. Wouldn't you want the pressure in the bow hand to be as far down as possible? And the back of the arrow up as high as possible? Basically having the arrow parallel (but higher) to the actual pressure points between both hands?
Jake, when you wrap the permanent NP's, do you take into consideration the direction the center serving is wound? As in, do you try and wrap the same direction as the center serving? Or opposite?
Thanks for your channel. Now that you are shooting barebow, should’n be a short nocking point more suitable for the string walking?
The long ones are easy to crawl on, since they blend into the string instead of being a larger knob
Why not use a contrasting Color
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Will .014 bcy power grip work
It may not slide up the string in the permanent method or spin up during the moveable method.
Really should've used a different color serving for the nocking points.
When you're bareshaft tuning, do you prefer to have them above, below, or right in the middle of your fletched group (in terms of nock high or nock low)?
Depends on the individual bow set-up, once I get to fine tuning that statement will make sense.
Hard to see which string goes where (for the permanent one). Can you draw a sketch of it?
Jake, if you do a follow up, Mel had a cool set up to show proper D-loop that I think you could use for this. Use one color rope for the string and another color rope for the nock points... it's big and EZ to see. you could even wrap the 'nock' rope with different color tape or something to show the different parts of it.
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Just a complete idiots question here. Been in and out of archery for a few years, but I just do not see the purpose, or reasoning behind all these “tie on nock points”. What exactly is so wrong with the forever tried and true brass nocks? Is simplicity just too much a draw back. I cannot for the life of me, see how a nocks got so complicated. You all call these permanent yet all you do is cut them off and retire them. I find with 3 under shooting with no string walking, I can still just use one good brass nocking point on the top side and that’s that. I do like the looks of the tie on nocks, but after many attempts, mine don’t stay nice and the brass ones are no worse for wear after years of service. Just saying, there sure is a bunch of complexity here with a pretty simple thing as an arrow nock on a string.
Adds unnecessary and (usually) undesirable weight on the string and also wrecks tabs. No big deal if you shoot thirty arrows every couple of months but 1000+ arrows a week, tab's gonna be ripped to shreds if you're shooting properly (or trying to).
LMAOOO the spanish auto translation is super weird sometimes
Your talking to much
I run my nock thread through some hot-melt glue before tying it on. That way, when you melt your ends, it also heats up the glue and it becomes more permanent.
I mentioned that you can do that, but I prefer the superglue method.
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A big thanks for the Super Thanks! Much appreciated!
Hello Jake, I started archery again after a long long break. I wanted to say thank you for all your content. The nocking points are great. Today I tied some movables, because I made a new string on Saturday. Your content is great and helps alot. I am glad, that I found your channel. It's fun to watch and a lot of great tips. Best greetings from Germany. Daniel
Every time he says “Barebow” I grin at the min. i cannot wait to see this journey
Interesting technique Jake. I`m going to try it. I especially like the movable knot because it should make tuning easier than my present method.
I tie my nocking points with the string-material leftover from string making and seal it with pure beeswax.
They had never slip or come loose. Greetings from Germany, I love your series. I shoot instinctive barebow, so welcome to the club :-)
You should use a stringer. Some may try like you done with bad results and maybe get hurt.
I'm interested to see what you think of Barebow nocking point locations. The angle of the string/nock attachment, when crawling down the string, tends to induce downward force on the front of the nock and upward force on the back of the nock. I've tried various solutions to this problem, but your experience will probably give you some better ideas.
After watching this video - when I am setting nocks - in my head I say to myself "And, then we smoosh it down". Anybody else?
18:35 Been there done that LOL I know that feeling done things like that too many times in my life
Gotta be honest Jake, it is really hard to see what you are doing when you are tying the permanent nocking points. I think a couple things would really help- use thread that is a different color than the serving. The black on black is very difficult to see what is going on. And two, even more important, illustrate the whole process, the wrapping and knots, using some sort of larger, easier to see model. Maybe use a broom stick sized dowel to represent the bow string and paracord to represent the nock thread. As it is I'm trying to follow you and am not having any success. Thanks
Maybe I'm underthinking it. I use abrasion resistant nylon thread from the fabric store, tie two lumps of thread and I'm done.
You didn't tell the point that why the nocking point higher 1/2 inch above the square point ?
We don’t pull the string back in the middle of the bow with split finger.
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Thank you
I hope you explain this in video with more explanation of what happened exactly mechanically
You can tell how confident you are with your craft by the way you wave your knife around the string 😂 keep rocking man
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When you squish the threads together at the end, aren't you spreading the serving threads apart?
If your serving moves from that it's too loose.
It's kind of "traditional" in the UK to use Dental Floss, but I've had even better results using spare string material (e.g. Fast Flight, etc.) and then supergluing it.
Dear Jake, may I use regular thread for clothes instead of BCY 3D? Or at least some other material, like dental floss?
I always confused about this. but your explain brings to me an emergency trouble -shooting skills. thank you so much.
Thanks for that, it all made a lot of sense and was very clear. I'm sure I've heard that super glue can degrade string material. Anyone got any real evidence of that?
Can you please upload another video of the permanent one with two different colors? I don’t get it at all. Very frustrating.
"Smoothing" will be the addition to my normal method - Thank You! We do everything else exactly the same, although I end by pulling the loop through with a different piece of serving - just preference ;).
If you superglue the movable nocking point, do you think it would rotate a bit every time your fingers release the string?
If you wax your serving first, you can superglue the knot to secure the knot & still be able to adjust it. Best of both worlds, IMHO.
I super glue it so it doesn’t move. Burning the ends secures the knot from being untied. But it can come loose after a long while
Would be really interested on your Barebow setup .. which products will you use?
Be giving this technique a try at the weekend, just need to select a sacrificial nock 😀 thanks for the vid 👍
Neet trick with the paper, to clean up the glue,,, will try it next time
cant see a damn thing
So vanilla ice shoots bows now?
have you done nocking points with dental floss
I find dental floss is a great product for nocking points
Great explanation and details, much appreciated!
Very informative and easy-to-follow
Very hepful. #stayathome#quedateencasa
Is the string same size as the serving?
nice
What size serving are you using?
Don’t buy shit on amazon….
I might nick that nock, thanks Jake
Great explanations!
So good
Thanks Jake
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How do you remove the superglued nocking points if you, for instance, need to redo the serving?
twisting and scraping with a knife/scissor blade carefully
I love that you speak both imperial and metric. Really helpful.
Thanks!
Thank you!
What a waste. Perfect delivery but you can't see anything! Redo the vid using bright color tread.