this improved my technique a lot, i feel less fatigued in my arms too which is now allowing me to make more shots and with more consistency. Your videos are a titan of a resource for the archery community, thank you ❤
If you like this, you'd really like Armin Hirmer's form videos, especially on the bow shoulder, draw shoulder, draw hand, release, and the three body bows.
Great video. Jake, you have great communication skills, you are able to explain non-trivial concepts in a simple, structured and effective way. Making this communication through videos is not easy, but you can do it. Thank you!
Thanks so much for this video. As a newbie to archery, I woefully underestimated the challenge, specificity and importance of transitioning from set to setup. I submitted a video for your review where you identified several faults in my transition from set to setup. Per your advice I did purchase and read Total Archery which opened my eyes regarding everything you discussed in this video. With a better understanding of the setup position, I now transition into full draw with ease and security at anchor. My shoulder and arm alignment now fall into place without much effort which has drastically improved my arrow grouping. I was skeptical that a book would be helpful with archery form but Total Archery in combination with your teaching videos and video review has been a game changer. Still lots of work to be done and will be sending more videos for review. For any beginners out there, buy the book! Read it cover to cover and then reread each chapter and supplement with videos as you work on your form one step at a time. That has been my approach and it has really made a difference.
I'm taking my course now, and really enjoying it. My coach told me because he noticed i was leaning forward that a great way to straighten yourself up is lift up your front feet, the toes, you're body will instinctively become straight because of balance. And using your core stomach muscles. Personally found it very handy and straight away improved my stance. We had a choice of using sights but i chose barebow because that's how i want to continue. Now I'm actually having lessons by a coach all this is much more clearer to understand, thankyou. Reading that back its not too clear what i mean, lift your back of you're feet like a ballerina lol.
This is EXTREMELY useful for me, i've also came back to olympic archery after a hiatus from before 2020 and i'm finding a lot of challenges readjusting. I'm, still going through your setup videos but have tons of questions remaining.
The whole video is great but I want to point out how important the first part of it is already: begin with focusing on the target. My personal anecdote: For the past year I have been adjusting the hand position on my riser, actually based on some of the videos on this channel, and started shooting far worse. Why? Because I was looking at my arm, wrist and hand during the draw process instead of the target. Once I realized I was doing that my accuracy and consistency went up immensely; far beyond what I was able to do before (also because of the grip position correction).
this was very helpful and awesome timing. I was taught to have my weight almost evenly split between both feet and because I tried to keep it like that throughout the shot cycle, I got into the habit of leaning back. Yesterday in training I placed a pole next to me on the shooting line to check my position against and I discovered that if I stay straight, my weight transfers to the front foot. It is good to have this confirmed and an explanation why that is.
Great video. A lot of the problems that this video addresses, begin with the archer starting to aim (ie aligning the sight aperture and string with the target) somewhere between set and set up and continuing to try to keep the aperture on the gold throughout the draw. Which is pointless and demonstrates the archer's mental focus is in the wrong place. Blank boss or no boss is the progression from stretch-band to remove the distraction from learning the draw process. Interesting about the front foot weight; I'm finding beginners and some intermediate archers overdo this to the point the back foot heel lifts, the knee softens and turns, twists the hips forward from square and the whole thing becomes a big, messy, twisted, unstable blancmange. But I take your point about the extra weight out front. I guess two bathroom scales could be useful here... 🤔
Awesome. I also noticed pretty big torso rotation when I'm shooting my Korean bow. I was a bit lost about alignment, and I was having a bit of issues with my shots. This video was very timely for me. Thanks, Jake.
thanks, I didn’t understand where the pain in my shoulder was coming from. Now I understand that I was pinching some nerve while raising the bow because I was too closed. I am paying attention to avoid that now.
Thank you for your videos! I started shooting this year, and although I'm shooting compound I've learned a lot from your videos. I did have a question about this video: how would you apply this to drawing a compound bow? I've been getting a lot of soreness on my trapezius and where it connects to the scapula, so I'm wondering if there is a better way.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery You're very welcome. Thank you jake. Maybe after more course I'll send a vid of what I'm doing. I'm 52, want to compete so need all the help i can get lol. 🫂
Similar to Howard Hill / John Schulz style swing draw -- obviously that's different than Olympic style, but a lot of the same principles involved, including the predraw, as I teach my students the Howard Hill style. One thing I didn't hear you mention is the concept of "pushing" with the bow hand as you start the pre-draw.... in Japanese kyudo they call it "pulling apart"-- sometimes I think students don't naturally engage the bow side of the body very much, but that is essential for stability.
Thx for the video. I have a questition. Are you doing the same movement (lift shoulders and set down), when you are shooting in a parcours with uphill and downhill targets? I guess, it's not easy to do it the same way if you are standing downhill or uphill as on flat ground.
Hey Jake ! Thanks for all the videos man ! You must pen your own book ! I would love to buy it when ot comes out ! A Quick question..I want to stay in touch with my form when I cant hit the range...can you please suggest any equipment which I can use or attach to my bow by which I can dry shoot without damaging my bow ?? The tera band is good..but its not close enough to my actuall shot !! Is there any device or attachment i can use to shoot my bow without the arrow going out , just to stay in form ?? A reply would be greater helpful thanks !
It is hardest pat in archery. Problem I have is i have high shoulder alignment because when I have it lower I loose my anchor. It feels disconnected, it’s something I noticed with my coach, I won’t be in the spot I want under my chin for some reason. I do tho always make sure I don’t lift drawing shoulder when I lift the bow it was putting strain on my neck. The way I draw indoors is also different from way I draw outdoors
Great advice however after watching ladies team event in Paris I noticed Lim Si-hyeon from Korea and Alejandra Valencia from Mexico as well as many others doing the high elbow compound style draw. My club coaches also told me to raise my elbow which I find uncomfortable so I don’t know what I should be doing now.
Whichever one feels comfortable, you want to make sure you're using the bow in a way that fits you, the most comfortable form that allows you to relax before your shot while still keeping your aim on target will benefit you the most
this literally is my main problem cause i spend a lot of energy in lifting up my "sight" (barebow, arrortip) directly under the gold. At full draw I usually end up beeing slightly below the 1 ring at 6 o´clock.
For me, the most difficult move in archery is drawing back a compound. I can't stop the arrow bouncing off the rest. I think I am tensing my body too much. I have the power to pull it but, but not enough power to do it smoothly.
I noticed that your bow hand goes up above parallel and then down a few inches. You didn’t mention anything about this. Do you recommend doing this? If so why? Thanks!
David, This movement helps set the bow side shoulder into its socket before it’s under a lot of tension (like at full draw). This small movement also helps utilize gravity to your advantage when times correctly with setup into loading, which is especially useful when shooting a bow with a heavier mass weight. It is much better and easier to come down on a target (have a high sight picture before aiming) than it is to come up. It’s for this same reason that you will see a lot more elite level shooters start with the top target on a vertical 3 spot during indoor season. Not all do that, but even in bad lighting, for most it is more helpful. Hope that helps answer your question!
I do this all the time, because I shoot in the back yard... I don't want to send one flying across the neighborhood and through the neighbors dog or something. I'm shooting an 80# Bear Carnage, but I didn't notice much of a difference after a while, now it's second nature. People give me weird looks at the range when I go. I shoot 1 inch groups at 60..... so I get a lot of people trying to copy what I do... they always ask how the hell I do pull up instead of pulling down. It's just practice... do what's comfortable for you.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Ok. I saw your first answer in my notifications. Thanks for a second chance. :) I'm very new. You used the phrase "follow the brace height". I don't think you actually do describe what it means. Follow it where? As opposed to what? Anyway, I get it now. Maybe include your second sentence in your video for us baby beginners.
Interesting. I shoot Kyudo and while we do many things differently, it almost looks like you set the bow to the side like the Heki ryu practitioners (ua-cam.com/video/qbgEFBR2LUA/v-deo.htmlsi=rc2BWRYN7wJ5umnC) versus the "standard" way for raising in the center (ua-cam.com/video/1HlLT3GwzCo/v-deo.htmlsi=GVoFLjhAIWB97nYW). Taking care of our shoulders is very important no matter the style of shooting.
I invented and patented a compound bow that does not require a cable guard. An arrow is nocked the same way an arrow is nocked the same way an arrow is nocked on any other compound bow. View UA-cam video "COMPOUND BOW NO CQBLE GUARD".
As someone who’s had rotator cuff injuries - correct movement from set to set-up is so shoulder protective!
So true. That awful pinching pain when you lift incorrectly !
this improved my technique a lot, i feel less fatigued in my arms too which is now allowing me to make more shots and with more consistency. Your videos are a titan of a resource for the archery community, thank you ❤
If you like this, you'd really like Armin Hirmer's form videos, especially on the bow shoulder, draw shoulder, draw hand, release, and the three body bows.
Definitely one of the most valuable videos I have seen.
Great video. Jake, you have great communication skills, you are able to explain non-trivial concepts in a simple, structured and effective way. Making this communication through videos is not easy, but you can do it. Thank you!
Thanks so much for this video. As a newbie to archery, I woefully underestimated the challenge, specificity and importance of transitioning from set to setup. I submitted a video for your review where you identified several faults in my transition from set to setup. Per your advice I did purchase and read Total Archery which opened my eyes regarding everything you discussed in this video. With a better understanding of the setup position, I now transition into full draw with ease and security at anchor. My shoulder and arm alignment now fall into place without much effort which has drastically improved my arrow grouping. I was skeptical that a book would be helpful with archery form but Total Archery in combination with your teaching videos and video review has been a game changer. Still lots of work to be done and will be sending more videos for review. For any beginners out there, buy the book! Read it cover to cover and then reread each chapter and supplement with videos as you work on your form one step at a time. That has been my approach and it has really made a difference.
I'm taking my course now, and really enjoying it. My coach told me because he noticed i was leaning forward that a great way to straighten yourself up is lift up your front feet, the toes, you're body will instinctively become straight because of balance. And using your core stomach muscles. Personally found it very handy and straight away improved my stance. We had a choice of using sights but i chose barebow because that's how i want to continue. Now I'm actually having lessons by a coach all this is much more clearer to understand, thankyou. Reading that back its not too clear what i mean, lift your back of you're feet like a ballerina lol.
This is EXTREMELY useful for me, i've also came back to olympic archery after a hiatus from before 2020 and i'm finding a lot of challenges readjusting. I'm, still going through your setup videos but have tons of questions remaining.
This vid came when I needed it. I was just told yesterday that I was lifting with my shoulder and this vid was really helpful.
The whole video is great but I want to point out how important the first part of it is already: begin with focusing on the target.
My personal anecdote: For the past year I have been adjusting the hand position on my riser, actually based on some of the videos on this channel, and started shooting far worse. Why? Because I was looking at my arm, wrist and hand during the draw process instead of the target. Once I realized I was doing that my accuracy and consistency went up immensely; far beyond what I was able to do before (also because of the grip position correction).
this was very helpful and awesome timing. I was taught to have my weight almost evenly split between both feet and because I tried to keep it like that throughout the shot cycle, I got into the habit of leaning back. Yesterday in training I placed a pole next to me on the shooting line to check my position against and I discovered that if I stay straight, my weight transfers to the front foot. It is good to have this confirmed and an explanation why that is.
I feel like you made this video just for me, Jake! 😂 very helpful follow-up to my video coaching review. Thanks.
Being aware and going through the subtlies.. ..great stuff Mr. Kaminiski
Great video. A lot of the problems that this video addresses, begin with the archer starting to aim (ie aligning the sight aperture and string with the target) somewhere between set and set up and continuing to try to keep the aperture on the gold throughout the draw. Which is pointless and demonstrates the archer's mental focus is in the wrong place. Blank boss or no boss is the progression from stretch-band to remove the distraction from learning the draw process. Interesting about the front foot weight; I'm finding beginners and some intermediate archers overdo this to the point the back foot heel lifts, the knee softens and turns, twists the hips forward from square and the whole thing becomes a big, messy, twisted, unstable blancmange. But I take your point about the extra weight out front. I guess two bathroom scales could be useful here... 🤔
Thank you for the video. Elevation the bow shoulder was one of my mistakes that you diagnosed in my video coaching review
Awesome. I also noticed pretty big torso rotation when I'm shooting my Korean bow. I was a bit lost about alignment, and I was having a bit of issues with my shots. This video was very timely for me. Thanks, Jake.
Thank you Jake for an other amazing and useful video! It would be interesting to understand the differences wile shooting compound.
thanks, I didn’t understand where the pain in my shoulder was coming from. Now I understand that I was pinching some nerve while raising the bow because I was too closed. I am paying attention to avoid that now.
Jake has an innate ability to post a video on particular subject that I'm struggling with at the time.
Thanks for the very useful content and very brief and easy to digest explanation... i really need it... keep up the good work 😁👍👍
Thank you for this video, very informative and helpful! I'm trying to figure out this part of my shot process for a long time.
Thank you for your videos! I started shooting this year, and although I'm shooting compound I've learned a lot from your videos. I did have a question about this video: how would you apply this to drawing a compound bow? I've been getting a lot of soreness on my trapezius and where it connects to the scapula, so I'm wondering if there is a better way.
Yet another Great Video! Thank You Jake! :D
Thanks The shoulder draw back was very helpful. I shall implement that next session.
Thanks for the Superthanks!
@@JakeKaminskiArchery
You're very welcome. Thank you jake. Maybe after more course I'll send a vid of what I'm doing. I'm 52, want to compete so need all the help i can get lol. 🫂
@digitaldogs233 More strength to you man !! Age is just a number !!
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Thankyou and absolutely 👍🏻
Similar to Howard Hill / John Schulz style swing draw -- obviously that's different than Olympic style, but a lot of the same principles involved, including the predraw, as I teach my students the Howard Hill style. One thing I didn't hear you mention is the concept of "pushing" with the bow hand as you start the pre-draw.... in Japanese kyudo they call it "pulling apart"-- sometimes I think students don't naturally engage the bow side of the body very much, but that is essential for stability.
Best video ever.
Another excellent video. Thank you.
Great video!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, the collabs link does not work. I'm looking for the training band. Greetings from Germany
I feel like I should be paying for watching this. You're a legend Jake!
Thanks!
Thx for the video. I have a questition. Are you doing the same movement (lift shoulders and set down), when you are shooting in a parcours with uphill and downhill targets? I guess, it's not easy to do it the same way if you are standing downhill or uphill as on flat ground.
Could you make a video about" the reasons why the arrows go left the target not in the middle" and how to fix it
Hey Jake ! Thanks for all the videos man ! You must pen your own book ! I would love to buy it when ot comes out !
A Quick question..I want to stay in touch with my form when I cant hit the range...can you please suggest any equipment which I can use or attach to my bow by which I can dry shoot without damaging my bow ??
The tera band is good..but its not close enough to my actuall shot !! Is there any device or attachment i can use to shoot my bow without the arrow going out , just to stay in form ??
A reply would be greater helpful thanks !
Yes, this is exactly that… collabs.shop/yzir24
@JakeKaminskiArchery Thanks for the rrply
My drawing style is wrong . I'll try following this one . Thank you sir
It is hardest pat in archery. Problem I have is i have high shoulder alignment because when I have it lower I loose my anchor. It feels disconnected, it’s something I noticed with my coach, I won’t be in the spot I want under my chin for some reason. I do tho always make sure I don’t lift drawing shoulder when I lift the bow it was putting strain on my neck. The way I draw indoors is also different from way I draw outdoors
Great advice however after watching ladies team event in Paris I noticed Lim Si-hyeon from Korea and Alejandra Valencia from Mexico as well as many others doing the high elbow compound style draw. My club coaches also told me to raise my elbow which I find uncomfortable so I don’t know what I should be doing now.
Whichever one feels comfortable, you want to make sure you're using the bow in a way that fits you, the most comfortable form that allows you to relax before your shot while still keeping your aim on target will benefit you the most
awesome, thank you
this literally is my main problem cause i spend a lot of energy in lifting up my "sight" (barebow, arrortip) directly under the gold. At full draw I usually end up beeing slightly below the 1 ring at 6 o´clock.
What is the black bow? Ty!
Wait so I shouldn't have even pressure on my feet when I shoot or is that just lifting
Today is my tournament and I was struggling with this issue...
For me, the most difficult move in archery is drawing back a compound. I can't stop the arrow bouncing off the rest. I think I am tensing my body too much. I have the power to pull it but, but not enough power to do it smoothly.
Ok, but the real question is, Where can I get that shirt?
I noticed that your bow hand goes up above parallel and then down a few inches. You didn’t mention anything about this. Do you recommend doing this? If so why?
Thanks!
David,
This movement helps set the bow side shoulder into its socket before it’s under a lot of tension (like at full draw). This small movement also helps utilize gravity to your advantage when times correctly with setup into loading, which is especially useful when shooting a bow with a heavier mass weight. It is much better and easier to come down on a target (have a high sight picture before aiming) than it is to come up. It’s for this same reason that you will see a lot more elite level shooters start with the top target on a vertical 3 spot during indoor season. Not all do that, but even in bad lighting, for most it is more helpful.
Hope that helps answer your question!
i have always shot a 45 to 60lbs bows
Valeu!
Thanks for the SuperThanks.
I do this all the time, because I shoot in the back yard... I don't want to send one flying across the neighborhood and through the neighbors dog or something. I'm shooting an 80# Bear Carnage, but I didn't notice much of a difference after a while, now it's second nature. People give me weird looks at the range when I go. I shoot 1 inch groups at 60..... so I get a lot of people trying to copy what I do... they always ask how the hell I do pull up instead of pulling down. It's just practice... do what's comfortable for you.
Yeh, alright 👍
The link to the fancy stretch back says the product is discontinued?
Fixed the link... there is a newer version now
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What do you mean by following brace height in this context?
I demonstrate that and describe what that means a few times. Meaning you don’t pre-draw and only lift the bow up and keep the bow at brace height.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Ok. I saw your first answer in my notifications. Thanks for a second chance. :) I'm very new. You used the phrase "follow the brace height". I don't think you actually do describe what it means. Follow it where? As opposed to what? Anyway, I get it now. Maybe include your second sentence in your video for us baby beginners.
unfortunately i didnt know those presious information and i cause a serious ingury on my solder
orrrrrrr even worse, a 31 near 32 inch draw like me DX
It seem like there is no way to avoid impingement with the compound.
As long as you let the scapula follow the humerus up and forward, there won’t be risk for impingement.
اشخاص همهم الوقت والكلام فقط😂
Interesting. I shoot Kyudo and while we do many things differently, it almost looks like you set the bow to the side like the Heki ryu practitioners (ua-cam.com/video/qbgEFBR2LUA/v-deo.htmlsi=rc2BWRYN7wJ5umnC) versus the "standard" way for raising in the center (ua-cam.com/video/1HlLT3GwzCo/v-deo.htmlsi=GVoFLjhAIWB97nYW).
Taking care of our shoulders is very important no matter the style of shooting.
Check this video out I just released for an explanation as to why I do that! ua-cam.com/video/1U2To-FLsfc/v-deo.html
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I invented and patented a compound bow that does not require a cable guard. An arrow is nocked the same way an arrow is nocked the same way an arrow is nocked on any other compound bow. View UA-cam video "COMPOUND BOW NO CQBLE GUARD".
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Would like to see a full slow motion of your proper pull.