Has nothing to do with EBU now. Since now is under Swedish law. Police got involved and investigated. And is now under legal proceedings. Hence he got DQ.
@@gerhardjohansson5431 Sure, but the EBU has zero violence policies. May as it be. He committed a crime and he got kicked. simple as that. Now you might say "what about israel?" Well the contestant have not brake the law in sweden. SO yea. it is what it is. People loosing their shit over this. If it was someone else a non favorite people wouldnt be loosing their shits, over a man being violet towards a woman.
@@NecynThe police have already said there is no suspicion of any crime, and now reports are saying he not only didn't touch anyone, he didn't threaten anyone either. He made a "threatening gesture" while requesting to not be recorded.
@@jennyrice7921 Fr, not to mention he has had the most professional attitude so far. Not entitled, not arrogant, not a troublemaker, not a wannabe hero. Croatia for the win now 👍
Yes, as a Swede I sincerely regret the fact Finland did not win 2023! Liked that song a lot, voted for it and Finland probably would have done a better job handling all political chaos of 2024!
@kristinakjellgren9839 well, at first I would've agreed with you, had I not known the kerfuffle that ended up happening, especially with the participation of Israel, something that quite a lot of people (including me) are against. It would've been pretty sad to have Finland get the reputation of hosting the worst contest of all time.
@@resolvanlemmy Missing my point: 1) Which country managed to navigate between Germany and the Sovjetunion during ww2 with their national dignity intact? 2) Which of the two joined Nato first? If Finland hade been the winner 2023, this year would have been another and better Eurovision 2024! I do not wish our misery of a performance this year on anyone, least of all Finland!
This just keeps getting crazier, I wonder what happens next. Imagine if Switzerland, Ireland and Greece withdraws and France somehow ends up beating Croatia with the power of the jury, just imagine if France wins 😂
We received an update about what was going on with the Joost Klein incident. He didn't want to be filmed and had said so and when he was he made a "threatening movement" towards the woman. The incident was reported to EBU and the police. This is according to a Dutch news outlet. This warrents disqualification apparently.
This was supposed to be the happiest week of my year, I am so tired, frustrated and devastated by this situation, ESC was my safe haven and free from the troubles of the world, not anymore.
Pls ignore the asshats in the replies, if it's that deep for you, it is that deep for you. I totally get how something that's usually all fun outfits and non-political suddenly becomes this.. I hope you can find something to cheer you up :)
The dutch public service said he did not actually touch her and she kept on filming him even though he told them not to and that he moved aggressively towards the camera but nothing more. Why a is even a eurovision event worker walking around filming them, isnt that what the newspapers do? They are supposed to make the artist comfortable. Sounds like she also behaved improperly
@@mathiastrostdorf5638 Yes there is more. Israel propaganda. He literally got kicked out because the SONG WRITER OF ISRAEL harassed him. Isn't that a bit too coincidental? Please do research before assuming a multi-billion dollar company run by Jews are the ones in the right
@@daniellmalcom2573 at this rate I don't even think she's real- And then it's purely based off he said and she said. And they don't even have a video and a coughing up excuses, to make Joost look bad because eurovision is funded by Israel and they wanna win to look good. According to some the Netherlands might sue because they made accusations and disqualified him I didn't even provide any evidence
@@daniellmalcom2573 did I not even totally sure this woman even exists because not even the Netherlands have the evidence nor the video It's been a he said she said. And the EBU has switched from he put his hands on her to he punched the camera, to he grabbed the camera, to he said a threatened her, to he put up the middle finger
@@yasY0L0 i think ive seen the clip they are putting the blame on and he seems upset and hides his face from the camera. He does walk like hes pissed off but like...he passes by the filmer. Was he physically close? Yeah... within arms reach probably but he didnt touch anyone/anything. Theres a chance this isnt really the video...if it exists its in swedens hands rn
@@daniellmalcom2573 ggggiiiiirrrrrllllllllllll They've switch the story again, now it's aggressively walked close to her in a "threatening manner" I'm so done -
As I understood it Greece still performed on scene. For Ireland there was another incident, they wrote about it on instagram. Switzerland however didn’t show up on neither the flag parade or the show probably in protest.
@@bleucha I like a male to win . I do not like that it - they win . I belive for that purpouse the Real Male like Joost Was kicked out. I can not stand it anymore. MARKO is one of the normal, his Song is love and Real life, he should winn it regardless All affairs. Love you BL, humane and humble Being wo Stars behavior. ❤❤❤
@@totallynoticarus She's chosen to identify as non-binary with the they/them stuff and represent the trans thing so someone could have insulted her about that, her performance is misinterpreted by many as satanic instead of pagan so it could be someone taking offence to it and also we've made our feelings about Israel pretty clear to anyone who would bother listening to us so it could be that. She's an easy target for people if we are being honest.
Joost was being recorded, did not want to be recorded, and made a "threatening gesture" while asking to not be recorded. That's it. That's "the incident."
Totally agree. All countries should withdraw to boycott Zyon. Don't be stupid, people. Zyon is the biggest evil in the world. Everything what you read and everything you hear in the news is a lie. One day you will see that I was right. However, Zyon isn't the part of Europe. It's Asia. It should be kicked out for not being part of Europe and also because of genocide.
The "threat" was just a discussion between Joost and a fotographer, that is said to have started bcs someone made a disrespectful comment about his parents, which if you don't know both passed away when he was a child. Disqualifying him goes way to far, this is such bs
@@Cvr2007 I have literaly seen no news site saying this, only a few redditors, which I don't think are a reliable source. The whole subreddit has become very toxic.
@@mrsirkosky7618 idk where you are from, but in the Netherlands there are... But those ofc don't know more than where you are from ig. So it might just be made up, but it has been confirmed that it was a discussion and not physical in any way...
@@Cvr2007 There was a threat and the police involved and the complaint has been handed to the district attorney. Police does not come for "discussions" and hand complaints to a district attorney for "discussions". Give me your sources on the "discussions" please.
@@PurplePlatypus-ov5ug we’re all still waiting on an answer but I know the police is researching it and that avatros thinks the reaction is out of proportion.
I don’t think they will drop out. Dropping out for something like this puts too much on the line for them. And for all we know, them not showing up could be due to other reasons.
🇨🇭🇮🇪🇬🇷 🙏🥺🇳🇱 Avrotros has spoken out that the disqualified is uncalled for. It's a super progressive and woman empowering broadcaster. They would not back him up if the EBU statement was true.
Oké so the journalist basically asked/talked to him about his dead parents what he didn’t liked already and than he kept saying to stop filming him but they didn’t listen so he got mad and put his fist up.( he did NOT hit her or anybody else!) and the women called the cops for that to make a charge to him. That’s why he got eliminated. (I’m from Belgium so we get like ALOT of news and hear a lot of the things that happened them but also my story can be missing some info so sorry for that)
Imagine the rest follows them they should to be honest Joost klein of course could have done something but how bad could it be am not gonna defend him as we don’t know anything major but in my mind this is probably an big misunderstanding Btw everyone the voting lines for song 5 are open but if you attempt to vote for song 5 your votes will void so keep that in mind
@@jajkomaster do we even have proof that he said those things though? Yeah great sources say so but who knows maybe that girl is making him look bad Again I won’t say anything cause we don’t know anything major
He did not even touch her.. he made clear he didn’t want to be filmed even after she ignored his request multiple times… she should have respected his space… end of discussion
Joost gave everything in his performance. At the end he’s very emotional. He requested several times not to film him after his performances but that woman didn’t listen and filmed him anyway. Joost while at his most emotional moment verbally “threatened” as the EBU would call it that person. So that woman went to the popo and the EBU sucks from then onwards. That’s the story. I hope Joost will be happy again and the EBU must apologises openly to Joost!
For anyone wondering, I heard he had requested not to be filmed at a certain point and when he still got filmed, he did a rude gesture towards one of the crew memebers.
I think it’s good the Swedish authorities are handling this with as much discretion as possible. As long as it’s still being investigated we don’t need to know what happened. I am just happy that they emphasized it had nothing to do with the Israeli singer so that everyone can stop blaming here for the chaos.
Apparently the staff member joost has "verbally abused" was making jokes about his dead parents. Dont see how the ebu is standing for this and how that person is still working there as we speak. Respect to these countries and estonia who have said they might leave the competition in protest of joost kleins dq.
@@henriikkak2091 Not trying to spread of promote them but suggesting them so people can know about them. Whether this is true or not idk hence why i said apparently and this shouldnt be taken as the definite answer
Switzerland, ireland and greece did not show up because they have put in complaints to the ebu about israel taking photos without consent. Kan also said bad things about ireland entry during their coverage of the semi final.
@@mathiastrostdorf5638yeah also israel made fun about Joost Klein his parents that passed away. Israel had also conflicts with Spain and many more countries
@@ezra8545no they didn’t, they were pretty much in solitary isolation for their own protection with the outside protests. So your comments are not only impractical but unbelievable
How is this Israel fault? How do we become the bad guys again even though we did nothing wrong?! Stom blaming us for everything! They did inappropriate stuff and things they weren't supposed to do, so they got in trouble!
Next year don’t send people who put their friends over their countries, they’re there to represent their country not to be rebellious teenagers, come on.
F this. I'm not watching Eurovision finals for the first time in my life. This is competely unfair. As a Dutch person I would love to see The Netherlands stick together and just not watch nor vote tonight.
@@TheAbundance1337 That crew member shouldn't have made nasty remarks about his deceased parents. I probably wouldn't have been very polite to them either.
Hey- I wanted to let you know that this information is incorrect. Both Marina & Nemo were participating in the dress rehearsal. They were not protesting.
A state conducting ethnic cleansing and potentially genocide, a state that even its biggest allie the USA says it's gone too far, is participating in the contest. That's what is happening
AVROTROS who sent Joost says that they had agreed on not filming Joost after his show on Thursday but they did it anyway. In which he(Joost) responded with a threatening gesture. No physical abuse. But hey who knows. 😅
My younger brother knows him because they have the same friend group in Amsterdam, I have only heard good things about him, so I find it hard to believe that he must have done such an awful thing that would lead to disqualification. Also very strange to disqualify a person while there is STILL ongoing research..
Israel is actually very talented and amazing performance. I think her and the guy from France should be on the top. Both the most talented on this show.
It has been confirmed that after repeatedly asking not to be filmed when getting off the stage, a camera woman still kept filming Joost. He then made a threatening move towards the camera. Also the other countries were said not to be at rehearsal due to rude behaviour from (Israeli) amateur journalists. One of the complaints was that they were following them around, recording them on smartphones
great. just as I thought my country Croatia could win the competition it is all going downhill Same misfortune happened to Iceland 2020. and the COVID pandemic
eurovision rly is decaying.. after last year I was debating on not watching anymore.. and now Im certain of it. What a way to ruin something so timeless and beautiful-
Storyy time…. After Joost Klein his performance he was upset because of his outro for his parents that passed away… earlier he requested no questions after the show… the women ignored that multiple times.. Joost did not even touch the women, she was just being in his way even he asked her not to be…. bit harassing .. absolutely not.
Not true. Ireland did not attend final dress rehearsal as they were working with EBU to address illegal commentary from Israeli national broadcaster KAN.
Yes the illegal commentary was that the Israeli station gave a warning that Ireland’s entry was not suitable for children and they shouldn’t watch it. German TV also gave an advisory warning about the same thing. But Bambi is fixated on Israel, ignores that Germany said the same, and lodged a complaint. The complaint has been quashed. End of story.
When you accept injustice, youll realize that you could do something to help others and you did not So Now its your turn to feel the injustice you did not generate but accepted on others
that makes me wonder about the true nature of what happened then, because it seems to me that Nemo, Bambie Thug, and Marina probably wouldn’t protest something that wasn’t unjust? But at the same time from what we know it seems justified, the inappropriate comments seem to have been pretty severe, whatever they were
You can see in that guys eyes he is a trouble maker. Nobody gets kicked out for no reason. Eurovision is no place to get confrontational, political or any other way.
The police are involved, it is a serious issue. There is no "We deserve as fans to know what happened!" It is not about us, and there is absolutely no way to say that the disqualification is incorrect as we don't know the full situation. It is more likely than not that because the police were involved, it is not safe for him to be in the venue.
Where are you getting your information from? I always try to double check information and I can't find anything mentioning contestants not showing up to rehearsals other than the Netherlands
From what I understand is the Dutch singer didn’t want to be filmed made “vague threats” to move the camera off him and then the camerawoman got the police involved and the Dutch singer was disqualified. So my questions to follow up. What is the filming policy for the contest and contestants? Is specific privacy and public policy for certain locations?(I.E. usually camera operators if filming on location or set can sometimes ignore requests of not to be filmed depending on what the media release forms are and what locations they state are public) where did the incident happen? What are the laws about media presence?
I do think if he attacked a crew member he should not be allowed to participate as it’s definitely unacceptable. But would still like to know the details.
Gotta hope next year is not gonna be this bad. Because if EURO pulls out stuff like this again, then what's the point of "united by music" might as well make the competition into drama series
I absolutely adore their support, thank you! ❤️ I’m sorry but you can’t tell me Joost would jeopardize his eurovision in honor of his parents- what his entire song is about, over nothing. Edit: He did nothing wrong to be DQ.
This just keeps on getting CRAZY
Switzerland, Ireland and Greece leaving the contest? That’s bad. And the former two of these are in my Top 10 (Joost Klein or not)!
Enough of a bumper show regardless.
@jason256-8 Oh don’t worry. They might not have shown up for the family show, but I doubt that they really will drop out this night.
They have participated in the rehearsals! This is fake. Only Ireland didn’t participate and it doesn’t have anything to do with Joost
This joost keeps on getting crazy
I usually live for the drama but this is insane
This somehow doesn’t feel like “drama” to me… something is making me feel icky about it, I can’t explain it
Yea I'm like Al for the drama but this feels weird. Why do you think it feels like this @@PoisonSnowApple
Real
This Eurovision is getting crazier in every second
WHY DON'T WE GET THE INFORMATION WE DESERVE FROM THE EBU!?!?!?
Has nothing to do with EBU now. Since now is under Swedish law. Police got involved and investigated. And is now under legal proceedings. Hence he got DQ.
@@Necynthe police idnt stopping him from competing though. Only EBU does that part
@@gerhardjohansson5431 Sure, but the EBU has zero violence policies. May as it be. He committed a crime and he got kicked. simple as that. Now you might say "what about israel?" Well the contestant have not brake the law in sweden. SO yea. it is what it is. People loosing their shit over this. If it was someone else a non favorite people wouldnt be loosing their shits, over a man being violet towards a woman.
Cause they know it is gonna cause riots...
@@NecynThe police have already said there is no suspicion of any crime, and now reports are saying he not only didn't touch anyone, he didn't threaten anyone either. He made a "threatening gesture" while requesting to not be recorded.
I love how so far croatia has been like "i'm just existing and i have nothing to do with this mess". 😂
Yes lol, best way to live your life. Drama free and winning 😅
@@jennyrice7921 Fr, not to mention he has had the most professional attitude so far. Not entitled, not arrogant, not a troublemaker, not a wannabe hero. Croatia for the win now 👍
@@JustYetAnotherUser wannabe hero is crazy
They finally have a real change to win. They are not gonna waste their change
@IndonesischeBapao yeah, I'm rooting for them to win now!, also I'm pretty sure you meant chance
The last two years are basically sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows compared to what's happening this season.
Yep
Also loser pfp !??!?1
@@TheF64Key Yeah loser pfp.....,..
Yes, as a Swede I sincerely regret the fact Finland did not win 2023! Liked that song a lot, voted for it and Finland probably would have done a better job handling all political chaos of 2024!
@kristinakjellgren9839 well, at first I would've agreed with you, had I not known the kerfuffle that ended up happening, especially with the participation of Israel, something that quite a lot of people (including me) are against. It would've been pretty sad to have Finland get the reputation of hosting the worst contest of all time.
@@resolvanlemmy Missing my point:
1) Which country managed to navigate between Germany and the Sovjetunion during ww2 with their national dignity intact?
2) Which of the two joined Nato first?
If Finland hade been the winner 2023, this year would have been another and better Eurovision 2024! I do not wish our misery of a performance this year on anyone, least of all Finland!
This just keeps getting crazier, I wonder what happens next. Imagine if Switzerland, Ireland and Greece withdraws and France somehow ends up beating Croatia with the power of the jury, just imagine if France wins 😂
I hope either France or Croatia win, their songs are pretty good this year
As long as were not going to Isreal, I'm in on it
The crazy thought would be that them pulling out could lead Israel to victory.😢
I’ve been hoping that Italy wins ever since the song was out but I guess that’s not too likely right now 😭
I hope Croatia wins. France, Finland, the UK and Georgia are also good options for the victor.
We received an update about what was going on with the Joost Klein incident.
He didn't want to be filmed and had said so and when he was he made a "threatening movement" towards the woman. The incident was reported to EBU and the police. This is according to a Dutch news outlet.
This warrents disqualification apparently.
This was supposed to be the happiest week of my year, I am so tired, frustrated and devastated by this situation, ESC was my safe haven and free from the troubles of the world, not anymore.
Well, same. There has been some good releases on Netflix this May but I love Eurovision Week!
Poor you
It's not that deep luv...
Pls ignore the asshats in the replies, if it's that deep for you, it is that deep for you. I totally get how something that's usually all fun outfits and non-political suddenly becomes this.. I hope you can find something to cheer you up :)
I mean... it started last year for me.
The dutch public service said he did not actually touch her and she kept on filming him even though he told them not to and that he moved aggressively towards the camera but nothing more. Why a is even a eurovision event worker walking around filming them, isnt that what the newspapers do? They are supposed to make the artist comfortable. Sounds like she also behaved improperly
if it was like this he wouldnt have been banned. there must be more.
@@mathiastrostdorf5638 Yes there is more. Israel propaganda. He literally got kicked out because the SONG WRITER OF ISRAEL harassed him. Isn't that a bit too coincidental? Please do research before assuming a multi-billion dollar company run by Jews are the ones in the right
I just woke up. And my head already hurts
After having my dinner, I was notified about Joost’s removal and I was in absolute disbelief.
Imagine the female production girl was lying- not saying she is- but if she were to be lying the amount of deep shit they'd be in
Oh dude shes totally lying
@@daniellmalcom2573 at this rate I don't even think she's real-
And then it's purely based off he said and she said. And they don't even have a video and a coughing up excuses, to make Joost look bad because eurovision is funded by Israel and they wanna win to look good.
According to some the Netherlands might sue because they made accusations and disqualified him I didn't even provide any evidence
@@daniellmalcom2573 did I not even totally sure this woman even exists because not even the Netherlands have the evidence nor the video
It's been a he said she said.
And the EBU has switched from he put his hands on her to he punched the camera, to he grabbed the camera, to he said a threatened her, to he put up the middle finger
@@yasY0L0 i think ive seen the clip they are putting the blame on and he seems upset and hides his face from the camera. He does walk like hes pissed off but like...he passes by the filmer. Was he physically close? Yeah... within arms reach probably but he didnt touch anyone/anything.
Theres a chance this isnt really the video...if it exists its in swedens hands rn
@@daniellmalcom2573 ggggiiiiirrrrrllllllllllll
They've switch the story again, now it's aggressively walked close to her in a "threatening manner"
I'm so done -
As I understood it Greece still performed on scene.
For Ireland there was another incident, they wrote about it on instagram.
Switzerland however didn’t show up on neither the flag parade or the show probably in protest.
What happened to Ireland? I can't find anything on Instagram.
Oh no I like Nemo I want him or Croatia to win
@@bleucha
I like a male to win . I do not like that it - they win .
I belive for that purpouse the Real Male like Joost Was kicked out.
I can not stand it anymore.
MARKO is one of the normal, his Song is love and Real life, he should winn it regardless All affairs.
Love you BL, humane and humble
Being wo Stars behavior. ❤❤❤
@@totallynoticarus i believe bambie made a story about it
@@totallynoticarus She's chosen to identify as non-binary with the they/them stuff and represent the trans thing so someone could have insulted her about that, her performance is misinterpreted by many as satanic instead of pagan so it could be someone taking offence to it and also we've made our feelings about Israel pretty clear to anyone who would bother listening to us so it could be that. She's an easy target for people if we are being honest.
france also might be in trouble, Slimane stopped halfway through his rehearsal to make a speech about freedom and such
I am Dutch and i am so proud of Greece Ireland and Switzerland ❤
(And i still really wanna know what happend)
Joost was being recorded, did not want to be recorded, and made a "threatening gesture" while asking to not be recorded. That's it. That's "the incident."
If irelands on your side, youre on the right side.
@@daniellmalcom2573really? I’m Irish and I’m not on Bambi’s side. Many Irish view her and her entry as an embarrassment
All countries should withdraw
No. Why?
Because the Netherlands representative got violent?
NO WAY
@@noa5055 Violent ? 😂 Not at all he didn't do shit just made an movement towards the person no physical contact
Totally agree. All countries should withdraw to boycott Zyon. Don't be stupid, people. Zyon is the biggest evil in the world. Everything what you read and everything you hear in the news is a lie. One day you will see that I was right.
However, Zyon isn't the part of Europe. It's Asia. It should be kicked out for not being part of Europe and also because of genocide.
The "threat" was just a discussion between Joost and a fotographer, that is said to have started bcs someone made a disrespectful comment about his parents, which if you don't know both passed away when he was a child. Disqualifying him goes way to far, this is such bs
Do you have any sources for that?
@@mrsirkosky7618Not 100% confirmed, but many news sites say that this is likely the case. We'll probably hear the truth soon
@@Cvr2007 I have literaly seen no news site saying this, only a few redditors, which I don't think are a reliable source. The whole subreddit has become very toxic.
@@mrsirkosky7618 idk where you are from, but in the Netherlands there are... But those ofc don't know more than where you are from ig. So it might just be made up, but it has been confirmed that it was a discussion and not physical in any way...
@@Cvr2007 There was a threat and the police involved and the complaint has been handed to the district attorney.
Police does not come for "discussions" and hand complaints to a district attorney for "discussions".
Give me your sources on the "discussions" please.
From what I know he threatened someone when they made a very inappropriate comment about his parents.
Well... all power to him then, if it's true.
I believe it was fake but im not sure
@@PurplePlatypus-ov5ug we’re all still waiting on an answer but I know the police is researching it and that avatros thinks the reaction is out of proportion.
So in Swiss you are guilty even before proven guilty? Thats crazy or it was more from the Eurosong then from the Swiss authorities
@@NoxWhy-vg1ln oh ok
much much much love to Zwitserland, Ireland and Greece 🩷
you could try to marry these countries?
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Eurowokevision. It's not about music any more.
I don’t think they will drop out. Dropping out for something like this puts too much on the line for them. And for all we know, them not showing up could be due to other reasons.
Eden is tough 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🏾🇮🇱♥️ in front of all the hypocrites who ride. On the Eurovision this is a singing competition!!!
Eurovision 2024 just got even crazier🚰
🇨🇭🇮🇪🇬🇷 🙏🥺🇳🇱
Avrotros has spoken out that the disqualified is uncalled for. It's a super progressive and woman empowering broadcaster. They would not back him up if the EBU statement was true.
Switzerland, Ireland and Greece you guys are true heroes❤
True
😂😂😂😂😂 good I'm hope theme really fo this
I hope Croatia will win and this bullshit end asap
why croatia?
@@mathiastrostdorf5638 good fucking song obviously.
@@daniellmalcom2573
but there a few.
Oké so the journalist basically asked/talked to him about his dead parents what he didn’t liked already and than he kept saying to stop filming him but they didn’t listen so he got mad and put his fist up.( he did NOT hit her or anybody else!) and the women called the cops for that to make a charge to him. That’s why he got eliminated. (I’m from Belgium so we get like ALOT of news and hear a lot of the things that happened them but also my story can be missing some info so sorry for that)
So much drama this year. I ve been followinf ESC since 1986. There is not place for any form of aggression in ESC
I also followed Eurovision since the 1986. 😊
@@kjellhl1975 well we are about the same age. Nice to meet you!
Oh wow this is shocking. I love all the top 5 songs, but I hope Israel wins I love her and I love her song :D ❤
As an Israeli I hope we won't win this year, top 5 is more than enough! We've done with music festivals :(
Ireland not there due to making complaint about Israel commentators comments on her performance which they say breach ebu rules..
I've watched my entire life (30+ years) and so has my parents (60+ years) and no-one in my family has ever experienced anything like this neither 😢
Imagine the rest follows them they should to be honest Joost klein of course could have done something but how bad could it be am not gonna defend him as we don’t know anything major but in my mind this is probably an big misunderstanding
Btw everyone the voting lines for song 5 are open but if you attempt to vote for song 5 your votes will void so keep that in mind
He SaId MeAn ThInGs 😢😢😢
@@jajkomaster do we even have proof that he said those things though?
Yeah great sources say so but who knows maybe that girl is making him look bad
Again I won’t say anything cause we don’t know anything major
He assaulted a female worker and that is unacceptable. End of discussion.
He did not even touch her.. he made clear he didn’t want to be filmed even after she ignored his request multiple times… she should have respected his space… end of discussion
Last year was so much better there were no problems and it was fun to watch
right
Joost gave everything in his performance. At the end he’s very emotional. He requested several times not to film him after his performances but that woman didn’t listen and filmed him anyway. Joost while at his most emotional moment verbally “threatened” as the EBU would call it that person. So that woman went to the popo and the EBU sucks from then onwards. That’s the story. I hope Joost will be happy again and the EBU must apologises openly to Joost!
Glad we have the support of the tourist guide, twink and witch!
No but really. I hope that everyone will protest. Eurovision has gone the wrong way
😅
Their loss… respect above all else!
For anyone wondering, I heard he had requested not to be filmed at a certain point and when he still got filmed, he did a rude gesture towards one of the crew memebers.
I think it’s good the Swedish authorities are handling this with as much discretion as possible. As long as it’s still being investigated we don’t need to know what happened. I am just happy that they emphasized it had nothing to do with the Israeli singer so that everyone can stop blaming here for the chaos.
Apparently the staff member joost has "verbally abused" was making jokes about his dead parents. Dont see how the ebu is standing for this and how that person is still working there as we speak. Respect to these countries and estonia who have said they might leave the competition in protest of joost kleins dq.
I haven’t seen anything official saying that, it might just be false rumors (I’ve seen many false rumors the nearest hours)
@@jakob7116 Very well could be! Just trying to update with some rumours floating about. Key word apparently. Innocent until proven guilty nonetheless
Please don't spread rumors
@@henriikkak2091 Not trying to spread of promote them but suggesting them so people can know about them. Whether this is true or not idk hence why i said apparently and this shouldnt be taken as the definite answer
That, to me, sounds so preposterous, I can’t believe it’s true! And if it is? Why are they not fired?
Switzerland, ireland and greece did not show up because they have put in complaints to the ebu about israel taking photos without consent. Kan also said bad things about ireland entry during their coverage of the semi final.
the country israel has taken photos?
@@mathiastrostdorf5638yeah also israel made fun about Joost Klein his parents that passed away. Israel had also conflicts with Spain and many more countries
So not true. Just more lies being made up about Israel. And Switzerland WAS there at the dress rehearsal.
@@ezra8545no they didn’t, they were pretty much in solitary isolation for their own protection with the outside protests. So your comments are not only impractical but unbelievable
To me, it looks like EBU as well, is controlled by 💰💰💰💰 coming from lobbies 😡
I just hit my thumb on the table… it’s Israel’s fault… it didn’t rain: it’s Israel’s fault… I don’t have blue eyes: it’s Israel’s fault…
Yes that is what he said....
evil jews. The camera woman he assaulted was a mossad agent
How is this Israel fault? How do we become the bad guys again even though we did nothing wrong?! Stom blaming us for everything! They did inappropriate stuff and things they weren't supposed to do, so they got in trouble!
Next year don’t send people who put their friends over their countries, they’re there to represent their country not to be rebellious teenagers, come on.
F this. I'm not watching Eurovision finals for the first time in my life. This is competely unfair. As a Dutch person I would love to see The Netherlands stick together and just not watch nor vote tonight.
Its very fair. If you assault the production team you should not compete. bye bye Joost, you wont be missed.
@@TheAbundance1337 That crew member shouldn't have made nasty remarks about his deceased parents. I probably wouldn't have been very polite to them either.
@@MH-db2cv She didn't say anything about his parents. That was just false rumors.
joost didnt deserve this bro, he just protected himself
This just hurts them
Hey- I wanted to let you know that this information is incorrect. Both Marina & Nemo were participating in the dress rehearsal. They were not protesting.
what a fiasco from this year's Eurovision...
whats happening this year....
A state conducting ethnic cleansing and potentially genocide, a state that even its biggest allie the USA says it's gone too far, is participating in the contest. That's what is happening
Kudos to Irland, Greece and Switzerland
AVROTROS who sent Joost says that they had agreed on not filming Joost after his show on Thursday but they did it anyway. In which he(Joost) responded with a threatening gesture. No physical abuse.
But hey who knows. 😅
My younger brother knows him because they have the same friend group in Amsterdam, I have only heard good things about him, so I find it hard to believe that he must have done such an awful thing that would lead to disqualification. Also very strange to disqualify a person while there is STILL ongoing research..
#FREEJOOST
This is insane, imagine if Israel just wins due to winning the tele vote and having not that much lower jury than France 😱
Israel is actually very talented and amazing performance. I think her and the guy from France should be on the top. Both the most talented on this show.
I WONDER WHO WOULD VOTE FOR A GENOCIDAL FAKE COUNTRY - WHO WOULD ACTUALLY VOTE FOR TERRORISTS AND SUPPORTS OCCUPATION?
Yeah that would be amazing.
Yes we do indeed need to know! I wonder why they won’t tell us!
Because theyre lying/over reacting
Croatia FTW I guess
It has been confirmed that after repeatedly asking not to be filmed when getting off the stage, a camera woman still kept filming Joost. He then made a threatening move towards the camera.
Also the other countries were said not to be at rehearsal due to rude behaviour from (Israeli) amateur journalists. One of the complaints was that they were following them around, recording them on smartphones
There are now rumors that there is an emergency meeting that Joost may still participate.
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great. just as I thought my country Croatia could win the competition it is all going downhill
Same misfortune happened to Iceland 2020. and the COVID pandemic
I think the allegation is just an excuse to kick him iut for what happened during the press conference
Totally, they wanted to kick him without dragging negative press to Israel, Moroccan oil mafia
you think a SWIDISH photographer is in cahoots with Israel to destroy this year Eurovision?
Absolutely
Divided by music fr
divided by politics.
She was giving him shit. He gave it back. Now shes whining that she got treated as she treats people
Hahahaa!!! Your imagination is getting wild !
And there is 0 proof to your words.
@@kartmoin the Netherlands we already know what was going on …
I wont be supporting eurovision this year. Breaks my heart but i wont
Bro stop spreading desinformation. Both Switzerland and Greece sang their songs live.
His and the Greek artists behavior was so egregious and disrespectful. Don’t feel bad for them at all. 🤷♀️
#justiceforjoost
eurovision rly is decaying.. after last year I was debating on not watching anymore.. and now Im certain of it. What a way to ruin something so timeless and beautiful-
Well oh well, bye bye. Aggression should not be tolerated.
She didn’t get touched and she ignored multiple requests of joost.
The way the Israeli singer gets bullied is just insane. My vote goes to Israel just for that reason 💙🤍
Push over
So one dude supposedly harassed a woman and everyone around is pissed he was kicked out not that he did it, yes?
Storyy time…. After Joost Klein his performance he was upset because of his outro for his parents that passed away… earlier he requested no questions after the show… the women ignored that multiple times.. Joost did not even touch the women, she was just being in his way even he asked her not to be…. bit harassing .. absolutely not.
Not true. Ireland did not attend final dress rehearsal as they were working with EBU to address illegal commentary from Israeli national broadcaster KAN.
Yes the illegal commentary was that the Israeli station gave a warning that Ireland’s entry was not suitable for children and they shouldn’t watch it. German TV also gave an advisory warning about the same thing. But Bambi is fixated on Israel, ignores that Germany said the same, and lodged a complaint. The complaint has been quashed. End of story.
When you accept injustice, youll realize that you could do something to help others and you did not So Now its your turn to feel the injustice you did not generate but accepted on others
This year EURO is crazy 😂😭
i dont know how ireland and france are better song than serbia and have a better % to win
marina satti from greece is currently sick so she maybe felt really bad. we dont know
He shoved her because she was making fun of his dead parents
that makes me wonder about the true nature of what happened then, because it seems to me that Nemo, Bambie Thug, and Marina probably wouldn’t protest something that wasn’t unjust? But at the same time from what we know it seems justified, the inappropriate comments seem to have been pretty severe, whatever they were
You can see in that guys eyes he is a trouble maker. Nobody gets kicked out for no reason. Eurovision is no place to get confrontational, political or any other way.
The police are involved, it is a serious issue. There is no "We deserve as fans to know what happened!" It is not about us, and there is absolutely no way to say that the disqualification is incorrect as we don't know the full situation. It is more likely than not that because the police were involved, it is not safe for him to be in the venue.
Been watching since 2009 I was 9 years old back then wow I am shocked hope it changes
Do you have source of where your getting your information? I can't find anything about this and genuinly am curious
According to the news I've read it's because Israel was filming them without their permission and filed a complaint against the Israeli delegation.
Bambie is gonna act tonight. In her Instagram they said "Hope to see you tonight on stage"
pity. l dont like her.
I am so excited for next years eurovision
Where are you getting your information from? I always try to double check information and I can't find anything mentioning contestants not showing up to rehearsals other than the Netherlands
I have been watxhing this show since I can remember (first memoried are from when I was 6, now I am 32) never ever has this happened.
As fans, I don't think we are entitled to anything regarding an ongoing investigation
From what I understand is the Dutch singer didn’t want to be filmed made “vague threats” to move the camera off him and then the camerawoman got the police involved and the Dutch singer was disqualified. So my questions to follow up. What is the filming policy for the contest and contestants? Is specific privacy and public policy for certain locations?(I.E. usually camera operators if filming on location or set can sometimes ignore requests of not to be filmed depending on what the media release forms are and what locations they state are public) where did the incident happen? What are the laws about media presence?
I do think if he attacked a crew member he should not be allowed to participate as it’s definitely unacceptable. But would still like to know the details.
GLAD HE IS OUT... HORRIBLE BEING
The first guy also didn't show up to the rehearsals bc of us
Why are they protesting for a violent man?
There was no violence involved, it was verbal.
Violent? And Israel isn’t? Cop on
There was no violence, stop spreading false information
Source?
The Eurovision is turning into a reality show
Gotta hope next year is not gonna be this bad. Because if EURO pulls out stuff like this again, then what's the point of "united by music"
might as well make the competition into drama series
I hoop Joost can come back
I absolutely adore their support, thank you! ❤️
I’m sorry but you can’t tell me Joost would jeopardize his eurovision in honor of his parents- what his entire song is about, over nothing.
Edit: He did nothing wrong to be DQ.
it's currently a legal issue, the people have absolutely no need to know any more information till the investigation is over
#StopEurovisionBulling!
Isreal is not European and they still make the event hell😂
What has israel done other than be in the competition?
It's not israel getting political
@@TheLoyalpain commiting genocide isn't enough? You expect people to just forget about that for a silly contest?
@@sofiabruiz17 arent you people tired of lies and bullshit
@@TheMindfulnessGuide I am, that's why I stopped to comment. Ignorance in this day an age is a poor excuse for stupid comments.