Frederick Douglass vs Thomas Jefferson. Epic Rap Battles of History
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- Frederick Douglass vs Thomas Jefferson. Epic Rap Battles of History
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Frederick Douglass was against slavery but he owned Thomas Jefferson.
😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
Ouuff 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Ayo lol
Take my like sir
@@mapalotutula2015 My thoughts exactly.
For anyone who didn't know, when Frederick Douglass talked about the photos, he was bragging about how he was the most photographed person in the 18th century
He was born in the 19th century…
@@cortes2j yes, you're right. Thats my mistake
@@nicolasdiaz1542 Its not like there was a more photogenic or photographed person in the 18th century so you are fine.
How many people from the 19th century can you look at their photos, and they have a style that would not be completely out of place even today.
Ahead of his time in so many ways.... even fashion!
I do wish that somewhere in this rap battle were his words to the youth in his own Time..
Agitate, agitate, agitate!
Which I personally think is great advice!
Yet another reason this man was so far ahead of his time.
@@MichellePaulette79 about four…
"YOU LET FREEDOM RING BUT DIDN'T PICK UP THE PHONE MAN"
I love it.
Douglas came out not seeking violence, but seeking the truth.
YOO YOU GOT A HEART CONGRATS
@@GoingToAFuneral honestly I wasn't anticipating it
Really threw me off guard when I saw it in my notifications
Much love to the boys behind erb
@@minecraftsteve2504they really are good guys ngl.
you didn't even get the quote right with the video right in front of you
Ggs
1:23 Can we just appreciate how much effort ERB puts into these. They took 7 shots of the guy playing Frederick instead of just copying and pasting one shot into all of the photos. That is real dedication.
Bro actually got a heart after 6 years, thats an actual legendary move from ERB
It sure is
> That is real dedication.
HEADS FOR RACIST TAILS FOR SLAVE PLANTATION
They do things like this in every rap. Theres always eye candy and small things you can spot in the background. You can tell they love their craft
@@clickthisforawsomnes And we love 'em too!
I love how legitimately pissed Fredrick Douglass seems here.
I mean it's a slave owner vs a former slave. Considering how stuff was back then and all he went through, I feel like he has a right to be pissed.
ikr, has to be too, with their parody on NWA, nigga does have an attitude
Rohunt
Yeah it's great acting on this guy's part
Tad Strange is that a gravity falls character I see????
There is nothing more powerful than righteous fury.
>”I’m so down with revolutions I invented the swivel chair”
>google
>HE ACTUALLY INVENTED THE SWIVEL CHAIR
Thomas is a savage
The Simpsons already taught us that.
They don't call it Epic Rap Battles of HISTORY for nothing.
Damn boi
Saber Cat I don’t get that line
Douglass’s lines about “the 4th of July is an important holiday but what does it mean to this guy?” Is referring to a speech he gave about the 4th of July. Basically in that speech he discussed how the 4th of july is when america celebrates freedom and liberation but at the same time they continued to enslave black people, so the 4th of July was just a reminder of enslavement for black people.
Here to add on it's called "What, to a slave, is the 4th of July?"
It’s also taking a shot at Jefferson who had 6 babies with his slave only 4 survived she had a choice though to be free in France or return to America with Jefferson she chose to go with him as long as long as her children would become free when they turn 21 which Jefferson never did until he died on the 4th of July 1826
'... But what does it mean to this guy... ' well, CTFD. Doesn't it stand to reason that speeches like the one you refer to are meant to set the frame work in the mind of people of that time? Instant gratification of fast societal change is not a reasonable expectation. Change is slow. Speeches are made to inspire thought and debate.
@@dilloncasey1194 I mean, not really unexpected the 2 out of 6 babies die.
I would even go as far an claim thats a pretty good ratio for the time
To be fair. Stayed on the plantation has a real meaning for cowards.
This is easily an S tier ERB:
-Filled with accurate and important history references (I never knew that the house on the back of the nickel was Jefferson’s plantation)
-Humanizes Jefferson, but doesn’t glorify him
-Great beats
-Douglass’s roasts were so good that Jefferson used his entire second verse to apologize for his first verse
Yes it's top tier shit until it went full on pander to public education white guilt
It really shows the lack of education in America
I bet most Americans think the Civil War was about slavery as well
@Nemesis Hi! What is the difference?
@@sylvietapos807 B is below S and A
I hate your opinion. it's D for me. Douglass had the worst flow in the entirety of ERB history. He had to say every screwed up thing about Jefferson. The disses were barely hard hitting
@@MessiNotPessi that’s kinda what the guy said in the erb ranking video
The guy who put Gordon Ramsey vs Julia Child in D tier
I don't remember this part of Hamilton
Because in real life Hamilton and his wife were big slave owners, Douglas would whoop their arses.
@@lucascurio8345 that's a #bruhmoment if I do say so myself
@@lucascurio8345 Douglas won't even need something like that since Hamilton destroyed his own reputation which prevented him from ever becoming president.
Got this from Wikipedia:
Hamilton is not known to have ever owned slaves, although members of his family were slave owners. At the time of her death, Hamilton's mother owned two slaves named Christian and Ajax, and she had written a will leaving them to her sons; however, due to their illegitimacy, Hamilton and his brother were held ineligible to inherit her property, and never took ownership of the slaves. Later, as a youth in St. Croix, Hamilton worked for a company trading in commodities that included slaves. During his career, Hamilton did occasionally purchase or sell slaves for others as their legal representative, and one of Hamilton's grandsons interpreted some of these journal entries as being purchases for himself.
By the time of Hamilton's early participation in the American Revolution, his abolitionist sensibilities had become evident. Hamilton was active during the Revolution in trying to raise black troops for the army, with the promise of freedom. In the 1780s and 1790s, he generally opposed pro-slavery southern interests, which he saw as hypocritical to the values of the American Revolution. In 1785, he joined his close associate John Jay in founding the New-York Society for Promoting the Manumission of Slaves, and Protecting Such of Them as Have Been, or May be Liberated, the main anti-slavery organization in New York. The society successfully promoted the abolition of the international slave trade in New York City and passed a state law to end slavery in New York through a decades-long process of emancipation, with a final end to slavery in the state on July 4, 1827.
At a time when most white leaders doubted the capacity of blacks, Hamilton believed slavery was morally wrong and wrote that "their natural faculties are as good as ours." Unlike contemporaries such as Jefferson, who considered the removal of freed slaves (to a western territory, the West Indies, or Africa) to be essential to any plan for emancipation, Hamilton pressed for emancipation with no such provisions. Hamilton and other Federalists supported Toussaint Louverture's revolution against France in Haiti, which had originated as a slave revolt. Hamilton's suggestions helped shape the Haitian constitution. In 1804 when Haiti became the Western Hemisphere's first independent state with a majority of the population being black, Hamilton urged closer economic and diplomatic ties.
jp3813 holy shit nice paragraph dude
@@lucascurio8345 It ain't mine. lol
"and I ceased being an alien to your unalienable rights" holy fucking shit dawg
400 likes to the Meme Master!
“And ‘we the people’ stopped meaning ‘we the people…who are white’ “
0:18 "I'm endowed with certain unalienable skills"
@@janverfaillie8943 bro dug his own grave in one his first verses
Dude just burned him at the stake like the Roman’s did to the Catholics.
It's crazy cause I feel like Jeffferson"s first verse was absolutely lethal: he just had the wrong opponent
The first verse was fantastic. It’s just that he’s fighting THE Black Abolitionist. So Jefferson was set up to get dunked on.
@@philiphockenbury6563Agreed. Imagine if it was Thomas Jefferson vs John Adams or something like that, they ultimately were friends but disagreed on a many great things. I think Lloyd could’ve played a great Adams in my opinion.
They had to give Jefferson an opponent he basically couldnt beat, because if it was literally anyone else he wouldve fucking crushed them. He just did too much to not clown on anyone except for the dude who was a slave, got free and became a famous Abolitionist
In almost any other context, Jefferson's first verse would have ended the whole battle. Almost nobody can stand up to the things he accomplished in his life.
...but across from him is one of the only people with the knowledge, the know-how and the credentials to do just that.
@UmbreonMessiah it's basically impossible to beat Douglass because of what he did with his life. Beyond making fun of his looks and calling him basically a narcissist (both of which Jefferson does) there isn't anything else you can touch. You could probably put anyone against Douglass and the result would be a loss
“This ain’t Louisiana, man I ain’t buying it” I love this, it’s a reference to when Thomas bought the Louisiana territory from Napoleon
thanks, I somehow never caught that
“How dare you adress moi, you adolescent worm.”
@@Isaaac165 Damn it I read it and instead of reading it mentally with a normal voice instead in my head I read it as though I mentally sounded like Napoleon Bonaparte.
@@CA.papaBear This bastard’s about to see how bad a battle can be.
Finally someone who saw it.
dude i just got, "you died on the 4th of july, its a very important holiday, but what the fuck does it mean to this guy?"
he wrote a speech called, "what is the 4th of july to a slave"
wack
It is possibly his best speech ever.
@@neilpemberton5523 It's such fire
DAMNNN
Ironically, in that speech he actually quotes Jefferson decrying the evil of slavery
Well seems like we have that same issue today with BLM.
Thomas was on his ass until he decided to spend an entire verse trying say “I’m not racist, my sisters boyfriends black”
"I'm not racist my slave girlfriend is black"
I’m not racist I love black people I think everyone should own one
@@EriniusT stahhhhp 😭😭😂😂😂
lmao
I'm not racist, my sister-in-law's baby cousin Tracy got a brother and his girlfriend's black
Douglas was so powerful, that Jefferson spent his whole second verse trying to make peace with him
First and only time in an ERB. Feels wrong.
@@Hokum6 I think he should've been like "yeah I did that so what", even though he wasn't really like that irl I guess.
@@luckii.__17 The problem is he basically cant attack Frederick Douglass on anything besides what he did in the first verse. Douglass is like the ultimate rap battle trump card because you cant really make fun of the guy who spent his whole life talking about how bad slavery was. Had Jefferson had literally anyone else as an opponent he would win easily
can we talk about how "I didn't do anything to stop the slave trade or free my own slaves because I was worried about my money" is such a painfully realistic thing for a politician to say
Edit: the sheer amount of people in the replies looking for any and all excuses for Jefferson genuinely boggles my mind
@MasteroMatter Yep you are right
To be fair he lived in a time when having money meant being able to vote and he was not some kind of dictator who could have easily changed stuff. To be able to change anything for the better on any issue he needed to have money.
I agree. Jefferson and Douglas were both epic and this battle was weak. People have such a blinded view of history. They were both based AF
Jefferson was tortured over this, he argued for freeing American slaves most of his life, tried to outlaw slavery in VA and wanted to include a condemnation of slavery in the declaration but the founders thought it would isolate the southern colonies. I've never figured out exactly why he didn't free his slaves when he died, but I think he was in debt and was using the slaves as collateral. I may be wrong about that but everytime I try to look it up I get conflicting answers.
Ok groomer
They fit a whole semester of high school history in 3 min
Another reason why the current education system is whack.
@@gunargundarson1626 yee yee
@@gunargundarson1626 hee hee
No Lollygagging the system WACK, the teachers WACK, the school WACK, the textbooks WACK
Yosuru Shi it doesn’t, the school system just forces it on you for a semester. Because the schools are dumb
Frederick Douglass was also a huge advocate for women’s rights, so he could tell Jefferson that he...
Fought to include women in the sequel.
Work!
Yay I literally just watched that last night so I get the reference haha
r/unexpectedhamilton
Aiden's come on man that is the most expected Hamilton
Nice
Those last two lines,
"I ain't denying your fame
I'm just saying they need to put an asterisk next to your name"
Perfectly encapsulates this video
I feel like Jefferson would agree.
An asterisk meaning what? I thought that line was left vague so the viewer could add their own meaning to the meaninglessness, like Kanye lyrics.
@@HookCamper that Jefferson, despite all his high minded ideals of freedom, was a slave-owner. So I thought the line was pretty straight forward.
@@HookCamper asterisks in writing usually mean that there are caveats or more context to add to the situation
"I'm just saying, you need to put an asterisk next to your name" is one of the greatest, most lethal rapier thrusts in all of ERB
THE WAY HE SAID IT SEALS IT
I don’t get it still
@@jackscliparchives1080 In sports, they will often put someone as a record holder but add an asterisk saying there was some issue (game called early or something). He's saying "you were great, but there were issues so important that when anyone mentions how great you were, this stain on your record will always be mentioned".
@@markbrehob5592 The line sucks
@@jackscliparchives1080 i dont think you get how amazing it is
“Ah Fredrick I’ve never heard a verse I Doug Less”
that line was so corny i ended up laughing too hard.
epiphany you got likes thought I'd tell you
aaron bacchus i know that
I hate that I didn't get that until I saw this
@@michaelgiffen7541 same lmao
I was in the shower when I realized that was a pun....
"You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone"
I come back to this battle for this line. Genius.
Clever line
Even better when you realize that Fredrick Douglas lived long enough to see the invention of the telephone.
I’m happy I was the guy to provide you with 1k, cause I agreeeeeee
Also made sure former president Jefferson was finished with his rap
@@lokitmg4123 can't be tamed bros
I love the N.W.A reference in Douglas’ first line “Straight outta Bondage” referring to the song and straight out of Compton, which was one of the most political hip hop albums ever that tackled racism and discrimination, so much thought goes into these battles no wonder they take so long to release.
I love how when Jefferson says "Set up a little place called the United States, sound familiar?" in the background are a bunch of American people previously portrayed on ERB, Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, babe Ruth, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison, Clint Eastwood, Barack Obama, Hulk Hogan.
“Aw *Fredrick*, I never heard a verse I *dug less*.” That was seriously genius, I can’t believe no one’s pointing that out.
Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't see it earlier.
It's been pointed out many times. It's buried with the old comments
Because most people are sucking off Frederick Douglass’ verses. I actually think this battle was a tie, but it seems like I’m in the minority.
@@bungiesblueflames in my opinion both of their rhymes were good but Thomas didn't diss Fredrick enough when Fredrick was dissing him. Thomas spent his whole second round explaining.
@@penguino2409 sure Jefferson was explaining, but his explanation was pretty much invalidating Douglas’ first verse, so I liked it.
Douglass dissed Jefferson so much, Thomas apologized in next verse...
Lol
Ice-cave goblin no
@@segmentre1352 .. MMmmm..YES HE DID.. DON'T HATE.. STRAIGHT OUT OF BONDAGE 🤣😂😅💃💯
I kinda looked at it like, “hey I did these other things and you kinda misrepresented me.” But he did also apologize which was kinda lame. At least he apologized in a great way.
Inquisitor goblin hmm I wonder if there was a narrative behind that??
"You finished? Okay..."
And that's when Jefferson knew he was fighting waaaay out of his league... LOL
“I’m so down with revolutions I invented the Swivel Chair” is my favorite ERB line of all time😂
Mine too. It’s just so perfect and true.
The line “not to mention third president” line is so subtle but very clever. Jefferson didn’t consider being president a real big accomplishment in his life. On his tombstone, it mentions other accomplishments (writing the Declaration of Independence, writing the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom, and founding the University of Virginia) but does not mention him being president at all because he didn’t really see it as that important
That whole concluding verse of his accomplishments followed by “the fuck’d you do?” is so powerful
@@caden7745 Agreed.
@@caden7745 Its a battle, Jefferson's remarks amounted to "Im gonna brag about everything I've done" and "You look silly" ,and then apologizing his entire second verse, you're crazy to think he took this. Douglas threw everything he said back in his face, called him not only a racist, but a gigantic hypocrite whose greatest accomplishments ring hollow because he didnt back it up with his actions,
@@caden7745 Douglass second verse completely and utterly destroyed Jefferson no doubt
IsaTehGothicMando yeah but I think Noah is appreciating what the creators gave Jefferson. Given his insults must have been limited, similar to hulk vs jenner
Okay but no one is talking about “founding absentee father”
Because his family to this day refuses to talk about it
THERE'S TOO MUCH WORDPLAY!!!!!!!!!!
Because he said it to fast and it didn't really connect or rhyme with the previous sentence.
Because he raped and impregnated a slave woman
@@elaovi in some ways, he and Hemmings lived like a married couple, and when she was given her freedom by the French (before they had had children) she chose to go back to Virginia with him, which meant going back into slavery.
This is NOT a defense of Jefferson. The fact that he could still participate in the institution of slavery while in that kind of relationship with a black woman makes him (in a way) more monstrous than someone who saw slaves as little different from livestock. He knew these were people, no different than him, and he did what he did anyway.
"they need to put an asterisk next to your name" was probably the best delivery of a line i've ever heard
Honestly the amount of work ERB puts into these rap battles is INSANE, first they have to come up with the raps, then they also make it historically accurate, and even manage to put puns in it? That's something i never expected to be done, all while still having fun on the sets. Seriously deserves all the attention these rap battles get
Just noticed Jefferson say “I’ve never heard a verse I dug less”
Douglass
I would have never caught that
How did it take you this long 😂😂
"Aw Frederick , I've never heard a verse I dug less" (Douglas)
Word play on 100!
Also “This ain’t Louisiana man, I ain’t buying it.” I think we all know what purchases Jefferson made
Oh. Mah. Gawd.
I have watched this several times and never realised 😀
I love that they are still kinda polite to eachother.
"I'll never work for your ass, but I'll kick it for free". Dunno if that's very polite to be honest. :P
"A brainy mofo hear to diss you" I dunno about polite
Jefferson was best and Nic est tho
Although
Jef wasn't nicest on first
One of those times ERB was not only entertaining but thought-provoking. One of your very best battles.
“I’ll never work for your ass but I’ll kick it, for free”
And that automatically made FD win imo
"So down with revolution, I invented the swivel chair,"
I love that line.
The DonutQueen “this ain’t Louisiana I aint buying it” I LAUGHED SO HARD IN HISTORY
The DonutQueen it is sweet 🍀🌏💜
Fredrick Went IceCube
I thought that was Ben Franklin
Yh well it didn't mention Alexander Hamilton who was actually one of the main people in the American revolution doo...
"This ain't Louisiana man, I ain't buyin' it."
Hah, Jefferson did the Louisiana Purchase.
Right lol
OMG I NEVER REALIZED THAT
Hidden fact
I realized that after like 30 watches of this rap. That is embarrassing.
I just now realized this. At first I didn't get the reference but now that we're learning about this in history I actually understand.
This is one of my favorite ERB's of all time! I wish it was more praised!
"You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" always gives me goosebumps
For me it's always the run up and finale of the line "you couldn't whip a fifth of me, man!"
best flow: Jefferson
best disses: Douglass
overall winner: swivel chair
Cheers bro, I'll drink to that!
Rock And Roll Guru I concur
How original.
@@kfg452 I agree but whatever
What about Thomas Jeffersons.Stone face?
I felt that Thomas Jefferson flowed better... but Frederick was spitting truth with passion so I gotta give it to him.
True
Well said.
@@PsychCaptain Naw douglass was being a bit too cocky and using his race to his advantage. If this wasn’t on youtube, a leftist organization, Jefferson would’ve won.
@@angelfloress5063 UA-cam isn't an organization, it's a public forum.
@@michaelmooney1914 Yes it is.
"you a soft white Monticello marshmallow" is one of my favorite lines because it has great flow, rhyme, and also is a good diss
Y'all are seriously so damn talented. This kind of content is what UA-cam was made for.
If they had put Jefferson up against literally anybody else he would've kicked ass. This matchup is perfection.
Hmm. Harriet Tubman?
ye, but he still won.
he still kicked ass tho, but we are not allowed to say it because it would be "racist" to say thomas won
Zero Your victim narrative is funny, it’s a matter of opinion of who won my dude.
@@christopherjustice6411 victim narrative is frederick whole rap...
“1st Secretary of State, VP number 2, not to mention 3rd President.” I like how that is in Numerical Order
1, 2, 3, that seems right
@@Clangdon0148 that’s not a question
Ocd has been satisfied*
......
For now*
Another fun little fact, the “not to mention” pet is because it isn’t listed on his tombstone that he was president of the United States. Wack.
And chronological
I love how they gave Jefferson bars because he was genuinely a great writer but still had Frederick beat him the whole way through based on Jefferson's hypocrisy to his own words and expressed values
He would’ve won if Fred didn’t make it about race. All Jefferson did was defend himself
@@CourtlandLess Freddy D didn't make it about race, he just pointed out Jefferson's actions or lack thereof.
you're surprised the frederick douglass, someone who is best known for being a former slave and abolitionist, who was *a slave in jefferson's lifetime*, would comment about slavery? To thomas jefferson? 'make it about race' my ass lol. this couldn't be about anything else.@@CourtlandLess
@@StrangeworldEUYeah white racists really don't want to think about their racism so whenever the topic is brought up in any context it's "inserting race into it" lol
tell us that you're a racist without telling us you are racist@@CourtlandLess
Wow. I am so impressed by all the fantastic references packed into this rap battle, that I feel compelled to spell them out. Here’s what I think is not totally self-evident (heh) from the lyrics:
0:11 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
0:19 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
0:27 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson) - listed ways King George III was a tyrant
0:40 Douglass’s 3 autobiographies: Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave; My Bondage and My Freedom; and The Life and Times of Frederick Douglass
0:45 Jefferson served as ambassador to France and spent time in Paris
0:58 Straight Outta Compton (film) / Douglass’s escape from slavery
1:04 U.S. nickel has Jefferson’s portrait on the heads side, his estate Monticello (where his many slaves lived/worked) on the tails side
1:12 Jefferson played the violin and sometimes the cello
1:23 Douglass’s many, many portraits - Douglass recognized the power of the fairly new medium of photography and posed for every portrait he could, always with a serious face, to counteract the racist minstrel stereotype of the “happy slave”
1:28 The Three-fifths Compromise (Jefferson was not a part of making this, but he did benefit from it when it gave him just enough electoral college votes to win the 1800 presidential election against John Adams)
1:31 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
2:03 The Louisiana Purchase (Jefferson)
2:09 Jefferson had 6 children with his slave Sally Hemings, who was very probably the half-sister of Jefferson’s wife Martha and may have born a resemblance to her. It is believed Jefferson started having sex with Hemings a couple years after his wife’s death, when he was 44 and Hemings was 14. While he did eventually free all of the children he had with Hemings, he did not free Hemings herself, not even in his will.
2:14 Jefferson died on the 4th of July, 1826 (and weirdly so did John Adams)
2:17 What, to the Slave, Is the Fourth of July? (Douglass)
2:24 While the Emancipation Proclamation was a limited wartime measure, the Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery permanently.
2:28 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
2:29 The U.S. Constitution starts “We the people”
Anything important I missed? Do comment if so!
the straight outta compton reference is from the music video for the song not the movie, everything else is great tho
The "face of a free man taught himself to read men no-compromise couldn't whip a fifth of me man" won the battle.
took way too long for me to find this comment
One of the hardest lines that gets so little attention. It was so fucking good
Tbh after rewatching this it feels one sided like with the hulk
"you let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" boy he DEAD dead
@@ShrodingersCatgirl What does this line mean
Frederick’s Last Verse: “I’m not mad, I’m just horribly disappointed in you.”
This is the parental dagger to the heart line.
@@function0077 true
“Let me run down my resume will ya.
Set up a little place called the United States. Sound familiar?” 🔥🔥
This is my fav erb video. The beats. The lines. The delivery... it's a masterpiece!
"You let freedom ring but never pick up the phone"
Why aren't we talking about this line? Like, he kill him.
Nah, wasn't that great. Jefferson's first verse was fire
@@ditw_music you would be a dummy if you think jefferson won
@@MohamedAli-nf1rp Douglass won is so obvious 👏👏
@@mariaesthervillanueva729 ik
To be honest, Douglass was spitting so much fire that by the end of the battle, Jefferson should have been sweating worse than Douglas’ people, cello or no.
Fun Fact: The dude who plays Douglas in this battle is J.B. Smoove, who also plays one of Peter Parker's teachers in the new Spiderman movies.
and "Leon Black" from Curb Your Enthusiasm
I thought he looked familiar
Oh yeah he’s that witches guy
He's also the barber in Everybody Hates Chris.
This. This right fucking here. This made my week.
I'd like to state that iv'e spent literally 2 and a half hours watching majority of season 1 thru 5 in my room singing and reenacting. Ive watched you guys since I was in middle school and now im 20 about to turn 21. ERB and the crew is literally the happiest place to visit especially when life is down. GO ERB!
the organ and lapsteel guitar when Douglas's verse starts are so sick
It's crazy how you guys balanced being respectful and redeeming Jefferson's character; while also shredding him to pieces. This is one of your finest videos.
The only character in ERB to ever have to apologize to his opponent in the middle of a rap battle, only to have that apology denied and be told to fuck off. /// Respect
Pick one, it can't be both.
@@menthols4625 I am speaking to the fact that most writers of something like this today have ran to ignoring any of the good Jefferson did; and only see racist. Just read the comments, you will see consensus is that the stamp of racist is so big nothing else matters. Here Jefferson actually managed to dig himself out of that most dangerous brand. Douglass's retort was fair, it is the only truly fair criticism of Jefferson, that if he genuinely loved the slave girl who he was in a relationship with, why not take any steps to free her or move her to freedom? I will give you that his second verse had no attacks back, only a masterful knock down of the racist brand, is the one big negative of this video. Being branded racist is a death blow in today's political climate, so that they managed to have Jefferson brush that off and still walking away looking great, is respect for the man.
Why shouldn't being a racist be a death brand? You can hate someone while still appreciating their work and efforts. Should a serial killer get a lighter sentence just because they made a nice painting or invented something? The answer is no.
@@trinwheeler4639 your comparing hating a race to literally murdering several people brutally, both are bad, sure, but just being racist pales in comparison to the shit serial killers do
@@thehaloscrolls391 Social death brand, dumb ass. You know, strip racists of their achievements and prestige just like they've done to people of color for millenia.
Not gonna lie, Douglass could have talked a little more about himself. He did more than just get his picture taken.
You mean tell us he taught himself to read? He covered that.
He didn't need to talk about himself to complete dismantle Jefferson by targeting his cognitive dissonance.
That was the weakest line tbh, "oh you got your fucking face on a mountain, but I got the cool photos"
@@loveleonk No, no I don't think they will.
Unless the regressive left keeps pushing identity politics.
@@kanoy7817 if identity politics turns you into a racist, you were already a racist.
Man, I love this battle! The fact that Jefferson spent his second verse apologizing for slavery is definitely in character with him. In the history books I've read most historians claim that Jefferson and other Virginia politicians spent a lot of time talking about how evil slavery was but didn't take any personal or political steps to stop it.
Jefferson fought to end the slave trade both in Virginia and nationally. So that's false from the jump- but he also put into the Declaration of independence that slavery was evil and was forced to take it out.
@@CultureCrossed64 He owned hundreds of slaves personally and politically his actions limited the trade but not the owning of slaves.
@@mnm1273and do you think he still would've been president if he freed them? The entire South was running and profiting off of slavery, Thomas Jefferson, if he freed his slaves, he would've probably been impeached, if he freed all the slaves, there might be an early Civil War that tears the country apart before it really became a country.
This is probably the deepest ERB, I love it when they are deep like this! It sends chills down my spin.
"when I stopped being an alien to your inalienable rights"
Jesus Christ that hit hard!
Paul Pardee suffer I made it uneven
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Paul Pardee I really liked that line
I liked the other one. "When we the people stopped meaning we the people who are white." That one really struck me.
*unalienable
Ok but can we talk about how hilarious Jefferson’s facial expressions are throughout both of Frederick’s verses. He’s just like “Yikes, he’s right”
more like "damn how do i get out of this??" XD
Oppenheimer had the same exact expressions yet he still managed to say “fuck this guilt trip, this is a god damn rap battle”
Had to re watch and focus on them but yeah they were great lmao.
Not about every thing. He was kinda wrong on some so
I think it was more like "Is that even English?"
This one I can listen to for hours. SO GOOD!!!
Bars so fire Jefferson spent his entire second verse apologizing
Jefferson spending his full second verse explaining himself is so beautifully realistic. It's exactly what most politicians would do. It's genius, really
I mean, he makes a better argument than most
i mean but he was being legit, he was actually explaining shit, he wasn't just deflecting with vague ideas. it's really not that genius.
It makes Jefferson look better because pretty much any president before Abe would have just been like, “lol don’t care you’re black”
Certainly what the real Jefferson would have tried to do
@@bijuutamer729 abe was basically the same way. All the freed slaves would have been forcibly repatriated if he hadn't been killed.
Abe dislikes slavery, but people forget that is not what the war was about. Abe made it about that, after the fact and at a point the north was in trouble, to Garner support, rally people and to further demonize an enemy.
They were just tools, as always in history.
"no compromise, you couldn't whip a fifth of me man". holyyy shit the three fifths compromise
Oooooh yeah!
Except that's not at all what the three-fifths compromise meant. The real Frederick Douglass would have known that.
@@loqutor I mean, the ⅗ compromise did have to do with a slave's value, and I think they were trying to reference it's existence, not define it.
@@lachlanwashere1279 The slave owners wanted their slaves to count as one person for voting rights and for more power. The compromise was to keep the slave owning democrat from gaining more voting power.
It should have been “no compromise, you couldn’t whip three-fifths of me man”
Legendary !! Love this erb
this is one of my favourite ERB's. I am learning things without realising. Keep up the great work!!!
"The day the 13th damn ammendment was ratified
and I ceased to be an alien to your inalienable rights"
One of the most powerful lines in all of ERB.
Property doesn't have rights.
@Kacper he's a salty confederate I assume
@@sayaksen7545 possible so, but he had a bit of a point, befire 1865, slaves were considered property (by some) and it is correct to say that property doesn't have right. technically it is correct, even if treating people as property is anything but correct
@@ssj2camaro21 kay why ess
Apart from the 13th just means that in order to have slaves, they need to be arrested first. Why do you think arrest rates are so high in America, especially of the black folks; or why America has one of the highest % of incarcerated people in the world?
the 13th protects slavery - just in a hidden way.
Who else thinks the beat in this is on point?
Makes me kinda wish Colonial rap was a thing
+Talon Marshall I suggest listening to Hamilton the Musical
+Talon Marshall lol
I loved it, and the Douglas bass line was fantastic.
I do
It's so funny how on the "WHO WON" screen it's just Fredrick Douglass
Because he obviously won.
I feel like this should be put in every history class at least once a year
Me at 3 AM: Ok brain, I want to sleep...
Brain: STRAIGHT OUTTA BONDAGE
Edit: I come back to this comment in quarantine and HOLY MOLEY 2.3k likes AND an internet chorus performance? I am proud of you all fellow humans
this mw right now
BIG HAIR BIG NUTS BIG ISSUES
THERE'S A REAL DECLARATION HEADS FOR RASIST TAILS FOR A SLAVE PLANTATION
YOU'RE A SOFT, WHITE MONTICELLO MARSHMALLOW
WATCHING MY PEOPLE SWEAT WHILE YOU SAT PLAYING CELLO- HELLO
Jefferson has an amazing first verse. The flow, the disses...it's quite a strong start...and then Douglas shuts it down with 3 words: "You finished? Okay..."
Yeah. Very much an underrated opening in context by Douglas.
Jefferson doesn’t have any disses in most of his first verse and none in his second xd
not really no, but ok
@@MintyCoffee he kinda does
He had the balls to stop Jeffersons flow instead of just turning it around
Dear God I love that you are getting it in ways I never could , erb is doing more for true history than any school ever could and it brings a tear to my eye seeing people truly understand what actually happened . Not just here but all the videos it's amazing . Go forth and tell true history my loves the world needs to know
TJ's first verse is one of the best of erb's history imo. Tbh,I don't know who won because although TJ's first verse was better than both Douglass' verses but the second one was just him apologizing. Really unique and underrated battle.
Probably some of the best flow in all of ERB.
Douglas crushed him
@@SiriusMinedJefferson apologized with the second verse and ended it with some very weird offer of peace 'we cool'. Douglas could have stayed silent for his entire second verse and still would have won after that. weirdly done ERB.
@@Hokum6 not weirdly done at all. Jefferson's nonpology doesn't cut it.
"You finished?"
That's code for "I'm about to destroy you"
no
Google User ok simp
*STRAIGHT OUTTA BONDAGE*
I need this on shirt
Add the STRAIGHT OUTTA BONDAGE, I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this homage line.
Samuel L. Jackson VS. Morgan Freeman
yes
yep
Samuel Jackson vs... Denzel Washington.
Yes.
+JakeLancer Samuel L Jackson VS Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman interrupts as hi role as God in the movie Bruce Almighty
This ain't Louisiana man, I ain't buying it.
*Jefferson awkwardly withdraws fist
I love how when Jefferson says "Set up a little place called the United States sound familiar?" They showed the USA's biggest celebs (Marilyn Monroe, Baby Ruth, Benjamin Franklin, Barack Obama, Clint Eastwood, Elvis Presley, and Hulk Hogan) that have been featured in ERB and recorded new bits for 2 seconds!
You missed Thomas Edison mate :^
“No compromise you couldn’t whoop a fifth of me man”
This line is very underrated as well as this whole rap battle. So many historical references.
Chancellor Palpatine atlanta compromise? what does the other part mean 😬
@@Sara-xr9ph nigga when he said whip a fith of me man, he meant the three fith compromise dawg
@@Sara-xr9ph it's based off of the 3/5 compromise. It was a compromise in the Constitutional convention. It was were southerners wanted slaves to count as "people" in their population so they can evenly proportion out Representatives, elector votes, etc. If that makes any sense.
And you can interpret it as "whooping" as in slave beating
Are we still using that 3/5ths lie? No where does it single out blacks or any other peoples group. It states those not freemen. That would include the irish indentured servants. And if a black man was free in the north he would be counted as a full person. The intent was to reduce the political power of the slave states so we could end slavery by passing a law instead of a war. The counting as 3/5 a man was not for their vote but as count for population for how many repesentitives a state got to send to congress. So if you wanted to end slavery you wanted the cslaves to not count at all! If you are a slave owner you wanted the slaves to count as a full person. Read the actual amendment and think. Don't just repeat your ignorant racial studies prof.
"No compromise, you couldn't whip a 5th of me man!"
That line was fire.
It is referencing the Three Fifths Compromise?
@@xavierstanton8146 Yes it is
Except that's not how the three-fifths compromise worked.
Dude, I've listened to this probably nearly 100 times, starting on the day it came out. I JUST got "Ah Fredrick I've never heard a verse I dug less."
I find myself coming back to this battle so much over the years. I find myself effortlessly reciting the entire video second by second alongside the rest of ERB’s vast library. I find myself wondering how my brain has engraved ERB’s entire catalog yet won’t store more important recollections. I find myself not able to sleep at 2AM, falling down the same insomnia rabbit hole. I find myself relying on familiar content to hide from the dark. I find myself clinging onto the leg of UA-cam in desperation before I’m taken.
Best flow: Jefferson
Best disses: Freddy D.
Loser: King George
Don’t worry, he’ll be back
Alexander Hamilton vs Aaron Burr/ King George?
Kaiser Lex Alagao we NEED a Hamilton rap battle. Desperately.
Winner: The Swivel Chair
Hotel? Trivago.
My favorite thing about this battle is how Jefferson showed up for a regular battle, and Douglass was clearly here with a mission, addressing slavery. Going up against a founding father, he knew what he was doing and then Jefferson has to like back pedal because the whole battle has changed now so he has to cover his ass about it.
Yeah, although Thomas could've just not acknowledged it and continued like most tend to do when their opponent brings up a mistake they can't deny, Thomas wanted to address his accusations. I think that says a bit about him as well, but then again, so does his actions
@@SkiggsMoDiggs Jefferson was well aware of his own hypocrisy on slavery. In "Notes on the State of Virginia" he said
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever: that considering numbers, nature and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by supernatural interference! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest."
@@JB-gw7xf Damn that boy could write.
yep nothing like shoving white guilt down the viewer throat
Yes that was very well played, but all of these epicrapbattles usually are
I get the message, BUT Thomas Jefferson's first verse was the best intro verse I've ever heard.
"Looking like a skunk in a 3 piece suit, didn't come back from Paris to battle Pepe le pew"
Love that line lol
I swear this is the most underrated battle. It's one of my top 5, easily.
Fuck yeah, the rhymes are sick
The line "You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" Damn
Emma B yeah the beat is great. I'm a producer and I pay attention to that lol
same
Emma B
I get that Douglass definitely won this one, but Jefferson's first verse was pretty much flawless, and among the best verses in all of ERB. Rivalled by very few.
Major Spook they stacked the battle, which is fine since it was straight fire
I think that's what makes this battle so interesting. Jefferson brought in a clean-cut brag-rap, that against anyone else would have caused a stalemate. Like Shaka Zulu's opener against Julius Caesar.
And then comes in Douglas. Instead of trying to out-brag Jefferson, he picks up Jefferson's own ego trip and hits him with his own flaws. That also helps to make his point; Because Jefferson was a great man, he isn't even trying to outdo him, but he also was a very flawed figure, which is what Douglas has an issue with.
@@diegomontesleon136 Lol Shaka got destroyed by Caesar. His best diss was about Caesar being stabbed by friends, while Shaka himself was stabbed by his own family. Lol.
If it was even it would have been Jefferson all the way. But Jefferson only had one verse. Jeffersons second verse was just him apologizing for his flaws
I don't think that Douglass had bad raps. I was saying it's not as good as Jeffersons bars. I would put Jeffersons first verse with the likes of the fathers of the Renaissance. Almost unmatched like the top comment said. But Douglass steamrolled Jefferson like James bond did. He didn't let Jefferson get words in and you can tell Jeff want to say stuff
I agree
1:35 Oh my freaking gosh! that is the most epic line I've heard about Thomas Jefferson and it completely describes him and his actions to a T! this battle was pretty evenly matched, but I'm calling it for Frederick Douglass.
I just found this channel yesterday and I’ve been gleefully binging. I could have spent so much productive quarantine time memorizing these rhymes.
Bear Grylls vs Dora the Explorer.
didn't know how much i wanted this, thank you
Dora would fuck him up though
This has to happen.
THIS
I would pay to see this.
"Ahh Frederick, I've never heard a verse I *dug less*" How the shet did I just notice this lol
What
Verse I Dug less. Meaning he didn't like the verse.
Dug less or Douglass. sound the same.
Dude, I literally commented the same thing 3 weeks ago lol. We both think alike.
***** lol
You just pointed out a whole extra curve ball to this epic edition XD
Damnnnn! The beat alone to this is amazing haha I was jamming so hard great work!
On his podcast, Frederick Douglass said that he would have rapped his part if ERB would have asked him
LMAO
"Man, you did some good things I ain't denying your fame; Just sayin' they need to put an asterisk... Next to your name."
F.D. killed it with the last verse.
F. D. Killed with the whole song
What does it mean???
tristan howard Asterisks mean that there’s more information than provided on the topic it’s next to. F.D’s saying Thomas shouldn’t just be known for his positive actions but also his negatives
MULTIplayerRK Media ohh I figured as much
MULTIplayerRK Media thanks bri
Not gonna lie, even Jefferson’s apology was fire
Yep
Yeah, I think he won.
Hi, now go away. Nope
BLACK PANTHER My opinion.
Hi, now go away. Oh ok
This is the best ERB so far
Basically this battle:
Frederick: lol u racist.
Thomas: Oh