Frederick Douglass vs Thomas Jefferson. Epic Rap Battles of History

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  • Frederick Douglass vs Thomas Jefferson. Epic Rap Battles of History
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  • @RNKFanArt
    @RNKFanArt 2 роки тому +12686

    Frederick Douglass was against slavery but he owned Thomas Jefferson.

  • @nicolasdiaz1542
    @nicolasdiaz1542 3 роки тому +23503

    For anyone who didn't know, when Frederick Douglass talked about the photos, he was bragging about how he was the most photographed person in the 18th century

    • @cortes2j
      @cortes2j 3 роки тому +1319

      He was born in the 19th century…

    • @nicolasdiaz1542
      @nicolasdiaz1542 3 роки тому +1528

      @@cortes2j yes, you're right. Thats my mistake

    • @Discojericho
      @Discojericho 3 роки тому +821

      @@nicolasdiaz1542 Its not like there was a more photogenic or photographed person in the 18th century so you are fine.

    • @MichellePaulette79
      @MichellePaulette79 3 роки тому +378

      How many people from the 19th century can you look at their photos, and they have a style that would not be completely out of place even today.
      Ahead of his time in so many ways.... even fashion!
      I do wish that somewhere in this rap battle were his words to the youth in his own Time..
      Agitate, agitate, agitate!
      Which I personally think is great advice!
      Yet another reason this man was so far ahead of his time.

    • @cortes2j
      @cortes2j 3 роки тому +18

      @@MichellePaulette79 about four…

  • @minecraftsteve2504
    @minecraftsteve2504 Рік тому +5731

    "YOU LET FREEDOM RING BUT DIDN'T PICK UP THE PHONE MAN"
    I love it.
    Douglas came out not seeking violence, but seeking the truth.

    • @GoingToAFuneral
      @GoingToAFuneral Рік тому +32

      YOO YOU GOT A HEART CONGRATS

    • @minecraftsteve2504
      @minecraftsteve2504 Рік тому +41

      @@GoingToAFuneral honestly I wasn't anticipating it
      Really threw me off guard when I saw it in my notifications
      Much love to the boys behind erb

    • @weego2585
      @weego2585 Рік тому +16

      @@minecraftsteve2504they really are good guys ngl.

    • @wldnrkls
      @wldnrkls Рік тому +5

      you didn't even get the quote right with the video right in front of you

    • @greasemaster
      @greasemaster Рік тому

      Ggs

  • @Hei_Darkfire
    @Hei_Darkfire Рік тому +4497

    1:23 Can we just appreciate how much effort ERB puts into these. They took 7 shots of the guy playing Frederick instead of just copying and pasting one shot into all of the photos. That is real dedication.

    • @WashingMachine.
      @WashingMachine. Рік тому +201

      Bro actually got a heart after 6 years, thats an actual legendary move from ERB

    • @greasemaster
      @greasemaster Рік тому +13

      It sure is

    • @ServerYT
      @ServerYT Рік тому +39

      > That is real dedication.
      HEADS FOR RACIST TAILS FOR SLAVE PLANTATION

    • @clickthisforawsomnes
      @clickthisforawsomnes Рік тому +27

      They do things like this in every rap. Theres always eye candy and small things you can spot in the background. You can tell they love their craft

    • @what_s_that_question_mark
      @what_s_that_question_mark Рік тому +4

      @@clickthisforawsomnes And we love 'em too!

  • @tadstrange1465
    @tadstrange1465 4 роки тому +13708

    I love how legitimately pissed Fredrick Douglass seems here.

    • @MrLoukato
      @MrLoukato 4 роки тому +1182

      I mean it's a slave owner vs a former slave. Considering how stuff was back then and all he went through, I feel like he has a right to be pissed.

    • @TheHenrydu
      @TheHenrydu 4 роки тому +287

      ikr, has to be too, with their parody on NWA, nigga does have an attitude

    • @tadstrange1465
      @tadstrange1465 4 роки тому +161

      Rohunt
      Yeah it's great acting on this guy's part

    • @samiryeahman7005
      @samiryeahman7005 4 роки тому +25

      Tad Strange is that a gravity falls character I see????

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 4 роки тому +144

      There is nothing more powerful than righteous fury.

  • @sabercat2178
    @sabercat2178 5 років тому +12320

    >”I’m so down with revolutions I invented the swivel chair”
    >google
    >HE ACTUALLY INVENTED THE SWIVEL CHAIR

    • @penisparker5172
      @penisparker5172 4 роки тому +391

      Thomas is a savage

    • @TheLibermania
      @TheLibermania 4 роки тому +175

      The Simpsons already taught us that.

    • @Korfman
      @Korfman 4 роки тому +433

      They don't call it Epic Rap Battles of HISTORY for nothing.

    • @Stazmanian
      @Stazmanian 4 роки тому +18

      Damn boi

    • @vivaciousmyosotis
      @vivaciousmyosotis 4 роки тому +4

      Saber Cat I don’t get that line

  • @Zeke1460
    @Zeke1460 2 роки тому +4814

    Douglass’s lines about “the 4th of July is an important holiday but what does it mean to this guy?” Is referring to a speech he gave about the 4th of July. Basically in that speech he discussed how the 4th of july is when america celebrates freedom and liberation but at the same time they continued to enslave black people, so the 4th of July was just a reminder of enslavement for black people.

    • @emlynselene1096
      @emlynselene1096 2 роки тому +193

      Here to add on it's called "What, to a slave, is the 4th of July?"

    • @dilloncasey1194
      @dilloncasey1194 Рік тому +103

      It’s also taking a shot at Jefferson who had 6 babies with his slave only 4 survived she had a choice though to be free in France or return to America with Jefferson she chose to go with him as long as long as her children would become free when they turn 21 which Jefferson never did until he died on the 4th of July 1826

    • @phillipsnichole2857
      @phillipsnichole2857 Рік тому +8

      '... But what does it mean to this guy... ' well, CTFD. Doesn't it stand to reason that speeches like the one you refer to are meant to set the frame work in the mind of people of that time? Instant gratification of fast societal change is not a reasonable expectation. Change is slow. Speeches are made to inspire thought and debate.

    • @gandalf_thegrey
      @gandalf_thegrey Рік тому +11

      @@dilloncasey1194 I mean, not really unexpected the 2 out of 6 babies die.
      I would even go as far an claim thats a pretty good ratio for the time

    • @grendal113
      @grendal113 Рік тому +3

      To be fair. Stayed on the plantation has a real meaning for cowards.

  • @proctorritter5176
    @proctorritter5176 2 роки тому +7879

    This is easily an S tier ERB:
    -Filled with accurate and important history references (I never knew that the house on the back of the nickel was Jefferson’s plantation)
    -Humanizes Jefferson, but doesn’t glorify him
    -Great beats
    -Douglass’s roasts were so good that Jefferson used his entire second verse to apologize for his first verse

    • @doyleharris6773
      @doyleharris6773 2 роки тому

      Yes it's top tier shit until it went full on pander to public education white guilt
      It really shows the lack of education in America
      I bet most Americans think the Civil War was about slavery as well

    • @sylvietapos807
      @sylvietapos807 2 роки тому +12

      @Nemesis Hi! What is the difference?

    • @adsads196
      @adsads196 2 роки тому +87

      @@sylvietapos807 B is below S and A

    • @MessiNotPessi
      @MessiNotPessi 2 роки тому +82

      I hate your opinion. it's D for me. Douglass had the worst flow in the entirety of ERB history. He had to say every screwed up thing about Jefferson. The disses were barely hard hitting

    • @mrfunny9231
      @mrfunny9231 2 роки тому +142

      @@MessiNotPessi that’s kinda what the guy said in the erb ranking video
      The guy who put Gordon Ramsey vs Julia Child in D tier

  • @tjwinston5369
    @tjwinston5369 3 роки тому +8340

    I don't remember this part of Hamilton

    • @lucascurio8345
      @lucascurio8345 3 роки тому +240

      Because in real life Hamilton and his wife were big slave owners, Douglas would whoop their arses.

    • @tjwinston5369
      @tjwinston5369 3 роки тому +73

      @@lucascurio8345 that's a #bruhmoment if I do say so myself

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 3 роки тому +187

      ​@@lucascurio8345 Douglas won't even need something like that since Hamilton destroyed his own reputation which prevented him from ever becoming president.
      Got this from Wikipedia:
      Hamilton is not known to have ever owned slaves, although members of his family were slave owners. At the time of her death, Hamilton's mother owned two slaves named Christian and Ajax, and she had written a will leaving them to her sons; however, due to their illegitimacy, Hamilton and his brother were held ineligible to inherit her property, and never took ownership of the slaves. Later, as a youth in St. Croix, Hamilton worked for a company trading in commodities that included slaves. During his career, Hamilton did occasionally purchase or sell slaves for others as their legal representative, and one of Hamilton's grandsons interpreted some of these journal entries as being purchases for himself.
      By the time of Hamilton's early participation in the American Revolution, his abolitionist sensibilities had become evident. Hamilton was active during the Revolution in trying to raise black troops for the army, with the promise of freedom. In the 1780s and 1790s, he generally opposed pro-slavery southern interests, which he saw as hypocritical to the values of the American Revolution. In 1785, he joined his close associate John Jay in founding the New-York Society for Promoting the Manumission of Slaves, and Protecting Such of Them as Have Been, or May be Liberated, the main anti-slavery organization in New York. The society successfully promoted the abolition of the international slave trade in New York City and passed a state law to end slavery in New York through a decades-long process of emancipation, with a final end to slavery in the state on July 4, 1827.
      At a time when most white leaders doubted the capacity of blacks, Hamilton believed slavery was morally wrong and wrote that "their natural faculties are as good as ours." Unlike contemporaries such as Jefferson, who considered the removal of freed slaves (to a western territory, the West Indies, or Africa) to be essential to any plan for emancipation, Hamilton pressed for emancipation with no such provisions. Hamilton and other Federalists supported Toussaint Louverture's revolution against France in Haiti, which had originated as a slave revolt. Hamilton's suggestions helped shape the Haitian constitution. In 1804 when Haiti became the Western Hemisphere's first independent state with a majority of the population being black, Hamilton urged closer economic and diplomatic ties.

    • @lucascurio8345
      @lucascurio8345 3 роки тому +38

      jp3813 holy shit nice paragraph dude

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 3 роки тому +21

      @@lucascurio8345 It ain't mine. lol

  • @rebeccad9635
    @rebeccad9635 3 роки тому +4706

    "and I ceased being an alien to your unalienable rights" holy fucking shit dawg

    • @hephsmith3738
      @hephsmith3738 2 роки тому +11

      400 likes to the Meme Master!

    • @JeiHeirumaru
      @JeiHeirumaru 2 роки тому +125

      “And ‘we the people’ stopped meaning ‘we the people…who are white’ “

    • @janverfaillie8943
      @janverfaillie8943 2 роки тому +25

      0:18 "I'm endowed with certain unalienable skills"

    • @theasexualidiot4803
      @theasexualidiot4803 2 роки тому +8

      @@janverfaillie8943 bro dug his own grave in one his first verses

    • @theasexualidiot4803
      @theasexualidiot4803 2 роки тому +1

      Dude just burned him at the stake like the Roman’s did to the Catholics.

  • @generaljesus7669
    @generaljesus7669 Рік тому +676

    It's crazy cause I feel like Jeffferson"s first verse was absolutely lethal: he just had the wrong opponent

    • @philiphockenbury6563
      @philiphockenbury6563 6 місяців тому +127

      The first verse was fantastic. It’s just that he’s fighting THE Black Abolitionist. So Jefferson was set up to get dunked on.

    • @erobertwicker
      @erobertwicker 4 місяці тому +30

      @@philiphockenbury6563Agreed. Imagine if it was Thomas Jefferson vs John Adams or something like that, they ultimately were friends but disagreed on a many great things. I think Lloyd could’ve played a great Adams in my opinion.

    • @TG-om1ue
      @TG-om1ue 2 місяці тому +14

      They had to give Jefferson an opponent he basically couldnt beat, because if it was literally anyone else he wouldve fucking crushed them. He just did too much to not clown on anyone except for the dude who was a slave, got free and became a famous Abolitionist

    • @UmbreonMessiah
      @UmbreonMessiah 2 місяці тому +13

      In almost any other context, Jefferson's first verse would have ended the whole battle. Almost nobody can stand up to the things he accomplished in his life.
      ...but across from him is one of the only people with the knowledge, the know-how and the credentials to do just that.

    • @TG-om1ue
      @TG-om1ue 2 місяці тому +8

      @UmbreonMessiah it's basically impossible to beat Douglass because of what he did with his life. Beyond making fun of his looks and calling him basically a narcissist (both of which Jefferson does) there isn't anything else you can touch. You could probably put anyone against Douglass and the result would be a loss

  • @gamerstheater1187
    @gamerstheater1187 Рік тому +1042

    “This ain’t Louisiana, man I ain’t buying it” I love this, it’s a reference to when Thomas bought the Louisiana territory from Napoleon

    • @Thespikedballofdoom
      @Thespikedballofdoom Рік тому +15

      thanks, I somehow never caught that

    • @Isaaac165
      @Isaaac165 Рік тому +18

      “How dare you adress moi, you adolescent worm.”

    • @CA.papaBear
      @CA.papaBear Рік тому +6

      @@Isaaac165 Damn it I read it and instead of reading it mentally with a normal voice instead in my head I read it as though I mentally sounded like Napoleon Bonaparte.

    • @Isaaac165
      @Isaaac165 Рік тому +3

      @@CA.papaBear This bastard’s about to see how bad a battle can be.

    • @joannnuneza4919
      @joannnuneza4919 Рік тому +3

      Finally someone who saw it.

  • @portalmasterjake5267
    @portalmasterjake5267 3 роки тому +3415

    dude i just got, "you died on the 4th of july, its a very important holiday, but what the fuck does it mean to this guy?"
    he wrote a speech called, "what is the 4th of july to a slave"
    wack

    • @neilpemberton5523
      @neilpemberton5523 3 роки тому +114

      It is possibly his best speech ever.

    • @distaffpope2603
      @distaffpope2603 3 роки тому +29

      @@neilpemberton5523 It's such fire

    • @senoritarat9520
      @senoritarat9520 2 роки тому +9

      DAMNNN

    • @droid327
      @droid327 2 роки тому +75

      Ironically, in that speech he actually quotes Jefferson decrying the evil of slavery

    • @ssj2camaro21
      @ssj2camaro21 2 роки тому +3

      Well seems like we have that same issue today with BLM.

  • @MattBnl2ih
    @MattBnl2ih 3 роки тому +6003

    Thomas was on his ass until he decided to spend an entire verse trying say “I’m not racist, my sisters boyfriends black”

    • @EriniusT
      @EriniusT 3 роки тому +997

      "I'm not racist my slave girlfriend is black"

    • @lukepearson4611
      @lukepearson4611 3 роки тому +834

      I’m not racist I love black people I think everyone should own one

    • @lifesuckstbh
      @lifesuckstbh 3 роки тому +86

      @@EriniusT stahhhhp 😭😭😂😂😂

    • @Mo_Real_Official
      @Mo_Real_Official 3 роки тому +8

      lmao

    • @AvoirJoseph
      @AvoirJoseph 3 роки тому +181

      I'm not racist, my sister-in-law's baby cousin Tracy got a brother and his girlfriend's black

  • @NotConnor-NotAtAll
    @NotConnor-NotAtAll Рік тому +423

    Douglas was so powerful, that Jefferson spent his whole second verse trying to make peace with him

    • @Hokum6
      @Hokum6 3 місяці тому +6

      First and only time in an ERB. Feels wrong.

    • @luckii.__17
      @luckii.__17 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Hokum6 I think he should've been like "yeah I did that so what", even though he wasn't really like that irl I guess.

    • @TG-om1ue
      @TG-om1ue 2 місяці тому +8

      @@luckii.__17 The problem is he basically cant attack Frederick Douglass on anything besides what he did in the first verse. Douglass is like the ultimate rap battle trump card because you cant really make fun of the guy who spent his whole life talking about how bad slavery was. Had Jefferson had literally anyone else as an opponent he would win easily

  • @renaissancenerd3801
    @renaissancenerd3801 2 роки тому +2547

    can we talk about how "I didn't do anything to stop the slave trade or free my own slaves because I was worried about my money" is such a painfully realistic thing for a politician to say
    Edit: the sheer amount of people in the replies looking for any and all excuses for Jefferson genuinely boggles my mind

    • @carlosg8103
      @carlosg8103 2 роки тому +19

      @MasteroMatter Yep you are right

    • @CidVeldoril
      @CidVeldoril Рік тому +146

      To be fair he lived in a time when having money meant being able to vote and he was not some kind of dictator who could have easily changed stuff. To be able to change anything for the better on any issue he needed to have money.

    • @lordspam2721
      @lordspam2721 Рік тому +57

      I agree. Jefferson and Douglas were both epic and this battle was weak. People have such a blinded view of history. They were both based AF

    • @camelholocaust5149
      @camelholocaust5149 Рік тому +134

      Jefferson was tortured over this, he argued for freeing American slaves most of his life, tried to outlaw slavery in VA and wanted to include a condemnation of slavery in the declaration but the founders thought it would isolate the southern colonies. I've never figured out exactly why he didn't free his slaves when he died, but I think he was in debt and was using the slaves as collateral. I may be wrong about that but everytime I try to look it up I get conflicting answers.

    • @degayify
      @degayify Рік тому +11

      Ok groomer

  • @aaronjohnson1647
    @aaronjohnson1647 4 роки тому +10921

    They fit a whole semester of high school history in 3 min

    • @gunargundarson1626
      @gunargundarson1626 4 роки тому +355

      Another reason why the current education system is whack.

    • @notlogical4016
      @notlogical4016 4 роки тому +31

      @@gunargundarson1626 yee yee

    • @inactiveuserakashahb3201
      @inactiveuserakashahb3201 4 роки тому +24

      @@gunargundarson1626 hee hee

    • @justsomeguy1014
      @justsomeguy1014 4 роки тому +68

      No Lollygagging the system WACK, the teachers WACK, the school WACK, the textbooks WACK

    • @notlogical4016
      @notlogical4016 4 роки тому +53

      Yosuru Shi it doesn’t, the school system just forces it on you for a semester. Because the schools are dumb

  • @ThatCyndi
    @ThatCyndi 3 роки тому +4840

    Frederick Douglass was also a huge advocate for women’s rights, so he could tell Jefferson that he...
    Fought to include women in the sequel.

  • @jeffreydudgeon4579
    @jeffreydudgeon4579 Рік тому +469

    Those last two lines,
    "I ain't denying your fame
    I'm just saying they need to put an asterisk next to your name"
    Perfectly encapsulates this video

    • @rach2111
      @rach2111 10 місяців тому +16

      I feel like Jefferson would agree.

    • @HookCamper
      @HookCamper 8 місяців тому +3

      An asterisk meaning what? I thought that line was left vague so the viewer could add their own meaning to the meaninglessness, like Kanye lyrics.

    • @jeffreydudgeon4579
      @jeffreydudgeon4579 8 місяців тому +33

      @@HookCamper that Jefferson, despite all his high minded ideals of freedom, was a slave-owner. So I thought the line was pretty straight forward.

    • @ramen2192
      @ramen2192 7 місяців тому +28

      @@HookCamper asterisks in writing usually mean that there are caveats or more context to add to the situation

  • @iaincoleman5947
    @iaincoleman5947 Рік тому +727

    "I'm just saying, you need to put an asterisk next to your name" is one of the greatest, most lethal rapier thrusts in all of ERB

    • @G01NGP0ZT4L
      @G01NGP0ZT4L Рік тому +20

      THE WAY HE SAID IT SEALS IT

    • @jackscliparchives1080
      @jackscliparchives1080 Рік тому +2

      I don’t get it still

    • @markbrehob5592
      @markbrehob5592 Рік тому +53

      @@jackscliparchives1080 In sports, they will often put someone as a record holder but add an asterisk saying there was some issue (game called early or something). He's saying "you were great, but there were issues so important that when anyone mentions how great you were, this stain on your record will always be mentioned".

    • @jackscliparchives1080
      @jackscliparchives1080 11 місяців тому +7

      @@markbrehob5592 The line sucks

    • @chocolateavian
      @chocolateavian 11 місяців тому +23

      @@jackscliparchives1080 i dont think you get how amazing it is

  • @rocky4629
    @rocky4629 4 роки тому +6474

    “Ah Fredrick I’ve never heard a verse I Doug Less”
    that line was so corny i ended up laughing too hard.

    • @Nayhan123
      @Nayhan123 4 роки тому +11

      epiphany you got likes thought I'd tell you

    • @rocky4629
      @rocky4629 4 роки тому +12

      aaron bacchus i know that

    • @michaelgiffen7541
      @michaelgiffen7541 4 роки тому +107

      I hate that I didn't get that until I saw this

    • @drewwatkins3053
      @drewwatkins3053 4 роки тому +14

      @@michaelgiffen7541 same lmao

    • @sephiroth24592
      @sephiroth24592 4 роки тому +9

      I was in the shower when I realized that was a pun....

  • @arielcahn7728
    @arielcahn7728 3 роки тому +10708

    "You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone"
    I come back to this battle for this line. Genius.

    • @lokitmg4123
      @lokitmg4123 3 роки тому +67

      Clever line

    • @parsalan7775
      @parsalan7775 3 роки тому +339

      Even better when you realize that Fredrick Douglas lived long enough to see the invention of the telephone.

    • @toodmorales8462
      @toodmorales8462 2 роки тому +23

      I’m happy I was the guy to provide you with 1k, cause I agreeeeeee

    • @datguymiller
      @datguymiller 2 роки тому +15

      Also made sure former president Jefferson was finished with his rap

    • @flappynautintheocean8824
      @flappynautintheocean8824 2 роки тому +5

      @@lokitmg4123 can't be tamed bros

  • @veccyboo7694
    @veccyboo7694 Рік тому +56

    I love the N.W.A reference in Douglas’ first line “Straight outta Bondage” referring to the song and straight out of Compton, which was one of the most political hip hop albums ever that tackled racism and discrimination, so much thought goes into these battles no wonder they take so long to release.

  • @MarshmallowEclipse
    @MarshmallowEclipse Рік тому +92

    I love how when Jefferson says "Set up a little place called the United States, sound familiar?" in the background are a bunch of American people previously portrayed on ERB, Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, babe Ruth, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison, Clint Eastwood, Barack Obama, Hulk Hogan.

  • @Jasonsousvide
    @Jasonsousvide 3 роки тому +6008

    “Aw *Fredrick*, I never heard a verse I *dug less*.” That was seriously genius, I can’t believe no one’s pointing that out.

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 3 роки тому +171

      Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't see it earlier.

    • @Jashin00
      @Jashin00 3 роки тому +101

      It's been pointed out many times. It's buried with the old comments

    • @bungiesblueflames
      @bungiesblueflames 3 роки тому +130

      Because most people are sucking off Frederick Douglass’ verses. I actually think this battle was a tie, but it seems like I’m in the minority.

    • @penguino2409
      @penguino2409 3 роки тому +197

      @@bungiesblueflames in my opinion both of their rhymes were good but Thomas didn't diss Fredrick enough when Fredrick was dissing him. Thomas spent his whole second round explaining.

    • @bungiesblueflames
      @bungiesblueflames 3 роки тому +72

      @@penguino2409 sure Jefferson was explaining, but his explanation was pretty much invalidating Douglas’ first verse, so I liked it.

  • @greasyclown
    @greasyclown 4 роки тому +6140

    Douglass dissed Jefferson so much, Thomas apologized in next verse...

    • @thethird1967
      @thethird1967 4 роки тому +26

      Lol

    • @segmentre1352
      @segmentre1352 4 роки тому +10

      Ice-cave goblin no

    • @tammygreen8962
      @tammygreen8962 4 роки тому +51

      @@segmentre1352 .. MMmmm..YES HE DID.. DON'T HATE.. STRAIGHT OUT OF BONDAGE 🤣😂😅💃💯

    • @matthewprue1010
      @matthewprue1010 4 роки тому +76

      I kinda looked at it like, “hey I did these other things and you kinda misrepresented me.” But he did also apologize which was kinda lame. At least he apologized in a great way.

    • @ethpling165
      @ethpling165 4 роки тому +11

      Inquisitor goblin hmm I wonder if there was a narrative behind that??

  • @thatjeff7550
    @thatjeff7550 Місяць тому +18

    "You finished? Okay..."
    And that's when Jefferson knew he was fighting waaaay out of his league... LOL

  • @bungybooce4205
    @bungybooce4205 10 місяців тому +52

    “I’m so down with revolutions I invented the Swivel Chair” is my favorite ERB line of all time😂

  • @noahkelly3627
    @noahkelly3627 4 роки тому +4814

    The line “not to mention third president” line is so subtle but very clever. Jefferson didn’t consider being president a real big accomplishment in his life. On his tombstone, it mentions other accomplishments (writing the Declaration of Independence, writing the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom, and founding the University of Virginia) but does not mention him being president at all because he didn’t really see it as that important

    • @jeremytewari3346
      @jeremytewari3346 4 роки тому +279

      That whole concluding verse of his accomplishments followed by “the fuck’d you do?” is so powerful

    • @andyknightwarden9746
      @andyknightwarden9746 3 роки тому +12

      @@caden7745 Agreed.

    • @IsaTehGothicMando
      @IsaTehGothicMando 3 роки тому +182

      @@caden7745 Its a battle, Jefferson's remarks amounted to "Im gonna brag about everything I've done" and "You look silly" ,and then apologizing his entire second verse, you're crazy to think he took this. Douglas threw everything he said back in his face, called him not only a racist, but a gigantic hypocrite whose greatest accomplishments ring hollow because he didnt back it up with his actions,

    • @justahyundai
      @justahyundai 3 роки тому +54

      @@caden7745 Douglass second verse completely and utterly destroyed Jefferson no doubt

    • @MonsterIcee
      @MonsterIcee 3 роки тому +27

      IsaTehGothicMando yeah but I think Noah is appreciating what the creators gave Jefferson. Given his insults must have been limited, similar to hulk vs jenner

  • @ra_mry3062
    @ra_mry3062 4 роки тому +4471

    Okay but no one is talking about “founding absentee father”

    • @ItRemindMeOfHome
      @ItRemindMeOfHome 4 роки тому +163

      Because his family to this day refuses to talk about it

    • @jazzyprince3335
      @jazzyprince3335 4 роки тому +46

      THERE'S TOO MUCH WORDPLAY!!!!!!!!!!

    • @imanuelgonzalez2853
      @imanuelgonzalez2853 4 роки тому +20

      Because he said it to fast and it didn't really connect or rhyme with the previous sentence.

    • @elaovi
      @elaovi 4 роки тому +73

      Because he raped and impregnated a slave woman

    • @jesseberg3271
      @jesseberg3271 4 роки тому +96

      @@elaovi in some ways, he and Hemmings lived like a married couple, and when she was given her freedom by the French (before they had had children) she chose to go back to Virginia with him, which meant going back into slavery.
      This is NOT a defense of Jefferson. The fact that he could still participate in the institution of slavery while in that kind of relationship with a black woman makes him (in a way) more monstrous than someone who saw slaves as little different from livestock. He knew these were people, no different than him, and he did what he did anyway.

  • @NorthernSea121
    @NorthernSea121 2 місяці тому +10

    "they need to put an asterisk next to your name" was probably the best delivery of a line i've ever heard

  • @WashingMachine.
    @WashingMachine. Рік тому +72

    Honestly the amount of work ERB puts into these rap battles is INSANE, first they have to come up with the raps, then they also make it historically accurate, and even manage to put puns in it? That's something i never expected to be done, all while still having fun on the sets. Seriously deserves all the attention these rap battles get

  • @bestnumber_7225
    @bestnumber_7225 5 років тому +5306

    Just noticed Jefferson say “I’ve never heard a verse I dug less”
    Douglass

    • @saltyonions9268
      @saltyonions9268 5 років тому +124

      I would have never caught that

    • @oliverholland1205
      @oliverholland1205 5 років тому +61

      How did it take you this long 😂😂

    • @verZatile_bmotp
      @verZatile_bmotp 5 років тому +50

      "Aw Frederick , I've never heard a verse I dug less" (Douglas)
      Word play on 100!

    • @k4nj1kun83
      @k4nj1kun83 5 років тому +40

      Also “This ain’t Louisiana man, I ain’t buying it.” I think we all know what purchases Jefferson made

    • @samwalker3165
      @samwalker3165 5 років тому +12

      Oh. Mah. Gawd.
      I have watched this several times and never realised 😀

  • @John_Smith76
    @John_Smith76 3 роки тому +5222

    I love that they are still kinda polite to eachother.

    • @Askorti
      @Askorti 3 роки тому +310

      "I'll never work for your ass, but I'll kick it for free". Dunno if that's very polite to be honest. :P

    • @TheMemeSchemer
      @TheMemeSchemer 3 роки тому +149

      "A brainy mofo hear to diss you" I dunno about polite

    • @cavksoewa1796
      @cavksoewa1796 3 роки тому +36

      Jefferson was best and Nic est tho

    • @cavksoewa1796
      @cavksoewa1796 3 роки тому +4

      Although

    • @cavksoewa1796
      @cavksoewa1796 3 роки тому +9

      Jef wasn't nicest on first

  • @mishtaromaniello8295
    @mishtaromaniello8295 2 місяці тому +9

    One of those times ERB was not only entertaining but thought-provoking. One of your very best battles.

  • @tableswithoutchairs1168
    @tableswithoutchairs1168 Рік тому +34

    “I’ll never work for your ass but I’ll kick it, for free”
    And that automatically made FD win imo

  • @thedonutqueen6454
    @thedonutqueen6454 7 років тому +5385

    "So down with revolution, I invented the swivel chair,"
    I love that line.

    • @bobateacafe5792
      @bobateacafe5792 6 років тому +119

      The DonutQueen “this ain’t Louisiana I aint buying it” I LAUGHED SO HARD IN HISTORY

    • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
      @gumunduringigumundsson9344 6 років тому +1

      The DonutQueen it is sweet 🍀🌏💜

    • @MarleyMan850
      @MarleyMan850 6 років тому +1

      Fredrick Went IceCube

    • @ashlynnnfairchild3355
      @ashlynnnfairchild3355 6 років тому

      I thought that was Ben Franklin

    • @AJSLV2002
      @AJSLV2002 6 років тому +2

      Yh well it didn't mention Alexander Hamilton who was actually one of the main people in the American revolution doo...

  • @alredir
    @alredir 3 роки тому +2944

    "This ain't Louisiana man, I ain't buyin' it."
    Hah, Jefferson did the Louisiana Purchase.

    • @anywaythewindblows8912
      @anywaythewindblows8912 3 роки тому +4

      Right lol

    • @jaxmatthews2748
      @jaxmatthews2748 3 роки тому +26

      OMG I NEVER REALIZED THAT

    • @MrJoeylj
      @MrJoeylj 3 роки тому +3

      Hidden fact

    • @maxfieldjoyner5244
      @maxfieldjoyner5244 3 роки тому +12

      I realized that after like 30 watches of this rap. That is embarrassing.

    • @lokitmg4123
      @lokitmg4123 3 роки тому +9

      I just now realized this. At first I didn't get the reference but now that we're learning about this in history I actually understand.

  • @LGKToons
    @LGKToons 2 роки тому +84

    This is one of my favorite ERB's of all time! I wish it was more praised!

  • @dragonlord588
    @dragonlord588 2 роки тому +64

    "You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" always gives me goosebumps

    • @Listening_Books12345
      @Listening_Books12345 6 місяців тому +1

      For me it's always the run up and finale of the line "you couldn't whip a fifth of me, man!"

  • @JacobRy
    @JacobRy 4 роки тому +2769

    best flow: Jefferson
    best disses: Douglass
    overall winner: swivel chair

  • @tiny99990
    @tiny99990 3 роки тому +7239

    I felt that Thomas Jefferson flowed better... but Frederick was spitting truth with passion so I gotta give it to him.

    • @nimvvv8467
      @nimvvv8467 3 роки тому +25

      True

    • @PsychCaptain
      @PsychCaptain 3 роки тому +12

      Well said.

    • @angelfloress5063
      @angelfloress5063 3 роки тому +80

      @@PsychCaptain Naw douglass was being a bit too cocky and using his race to his advantage. If this wasn’t on youtube, a leftist organization, Jefferson would’ve won.

    • @michaelmooney1914
      @michaelmooney1914 3 роки тому +486

      @@angelfloress5063 UA-cam isn't an organization, it's a public forum.

    • @angelfloress5063
      @angelfloress5063 3 роки тому +18

      @@michaelmooney1914 Yes it is.

  • @dtniland
    @dtniland Рік тому +18

    "you a soft white Monticello marshmallow" is one of my favorite lines because it has great flow, rhyme, and also is a good diss

  • @GotEmAll1337
    @GotEmAll1337 2 роки тому +28

    Y'all are seriously so damn talented. This kind of content is what UA-cam was made for.

  • @christopherjustice6411
    @christopherjustice6411 3 роки тому +6536

    If they had put Jefferson up against literally anybody else he would've kicked ass. This matchup is perfection.

    • @konstantinopoulos33
      @konstantinopoulos33 3 роки тому +80

      Hmm. Harriet Tubman?

    • @crappyanimations9992
      @crappyanimations9992 3 роки тому +123

      ye, but he still won.

    • @ZeroTheFoolArcana
      @ZeroTheFoolArcana 3 роки тому +229

      he still kicked ass tho, but we are not allowed to say it because it would be "racist" to say thomas won

    • @christopherjustice6411
      @christopherjustice6411 3 роки тому +572

      Zero Your victim narrative is funny, it’s a matter of opinion of who won my dude.

    • @ZeroTheFoolArcana
      @ZeroTheFoolArcana 3 роки тому +86

      @@christopherjustice6411 victim narrative is frederick whole rap...

  • @8h723
    @8h723 3 роки тому +2629

    “1st Secretary of State, VP number 2, not to mention 3rd President.” I like how that is in Numerical Order

    • @Clangdon0148
      @Clangdon0148 3 роки тому +49

      1, 2, 3, that seems right

    • @user-lz2rr8ir1y
      @user-lz2rr8ir1y 3 роки тому +5

      @@Clangdon0148 that’s not a question

    • @ivanthehunter3530
      @ivanthehunter3530 3 роки тому +12

      Ocd has been satisfied*
      ......
      For now*

    • @masonwoods319
      @masonwoods319 3 роки тому +42

      Another fun little fact, the “not to mention” pet is because it isn’t listed on his tombstone that he was president of the United States. Wack.

    • @baseballguy0125
      @baseballguy0125 2 роки тому +2

      And chronological

  • @lulolie
    @lulolie Рік тому +209

    I love how they gave Jefferson bars because he was genuinely a great writer but still had Frederick beat him the whole way through based on Jefferson's hypocrisy to his own words and expressed values

    • @CourtlandLess
      @CourtlandLess 11 місяців тому +6

      He would’ve won if Fred didn’t make it about race. All Jefferson did was defend himself

    • @Ravenholm337
      @Ravenholm337 11 місяців тому +32

      @@CourtlandLess Freddy D didn't make it about race, he just pointed out Jefferson's actions or lack thereof.

    • @StrangeworldEU
      @StrangeworldEU 9 місяців тому +21

      you're surprised the frederick douglass, someone who is best known for being a former slave and abolitionist, who was *a slave in jefferson's lifetime*, would comment about slavery? To thomas jefferson? 'make it about race' my ass lol. this couldn't be about anything else.@@CourtlandLess

    • @ImVeryOriginal
      @ImVeryOriginal 9 місяців тому +10

      @@StrangeworldEUYeah white racists really don't want to think about their racism so whenever the topic is brought up in any context it's "inserting race into it" lol

    • @angelperalessalaices8696
      @angelperalessalaices8696 7 місяців тому +1

      tell us that you're a racist without telling us you are racist@@CourtlandLess

  • @empratt5800
    @empratt5800 Рік тому +35

    Wow. I am so impressed by all the fantastic references packed into this rap battle, that I feel compelled to spell them out. Here’s what I think is not totally self-evident (heh) from the lyrics:
    0:11 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
    0:19 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
    0:27 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson) - listed ways King George III was a tyrant
    0:40 Douglass’s 3 autobiographies: Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, An American Slave; My Bondage and My Freedom; and The Life and Times of Frederick Douglass
    0:45 Jefferson served as ambassador to France and spent time in Paris
    0:58 Straight Outta Compton (film) / Douglass’s escape from slavery
    1:04 U.S. nickel has Jefferson’s portrait on the heads side, his estate Monticello (where his many slaves lived/worked) on the tails side
    1:12 Jefferson played the violin and sometimes the cello
    1:23 Douglass’s many, many portraits - Douglass recognized the power of the fairly new medium of photography and posed for every portrait he could, always with a serious face, to counteract the racist minstrel stereotype of the “happy slave”
    1:28 The Three-fifths Compromise (Jefferson was not a part of making this, but he did benefit from it when it gave him just enough electoral college votes to win the 1800 presidential election against John Adams)
    1:31 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
    2:03 The Louisiana Purchase (Jefferson)
    2:09 Jefferson had 6 children with his slave Sally Hemings, who was very probably the half-sister of Jefferson’s wife Martha and may have born a resemblance to her. It is believed Jefferson started having sex with Hemings a couple years after his wife’s death, when he was 44 and Hemings was 14. While he did eventually free all of the children he had with Hemings, he did not free Hemings herself, not even in his will.
    2:14 Jefferson died on the 4th of July, 1826 (and weirdly so did John Adams)
    2:17 What, to the Slave, Is the Fourth of July? (Douglass)
    2:24 While the Emancipation Proclamation was a limited wartime measure, the Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery permanently.
    2:28 The Declaration of Independence (Jefferson)
    2:29 The U.S. Constitution starts “We the people”
    Anything important I missed? Do comment if so!

    • @notcleetus5561
      @notcleetus5561 Рік тому +2

      the straight outta compton reference is from the music video for the song not the movie, everything else is great tho

  • @demnbrown
    @demnbrown 3 роки тому +1498

    The "face of a free man taught himself to read men no-compromise couldn't whip a fifth of me man" won the battle.

    • @laurah12
      @laurah12 3 роки тому +15

      took way too long for me to find this comment

    • @TheBeastBandit
      @TheBeastBandit 3 роки тому +42

      One of the hardest lines that gets so little attention. It was so fucking good

    • @cyrusmuller6502
      @cyrusmuller6502 3 роки тому +3

      Tbh after rewatching this it feels one sided like with the hulk

    • @ShrodingersCatgirl
      @ShrodingersCatgirl 3 роки тому +19

      "you let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" boy he DEAD dead

    • @olivergates5843
      @olivergates5843 3 роки тому +1

      @@ShrodingersCatgirl What does this line mean

  • @ShmeengusDingus
    @ShmeengusDingus 2 роки тому +3073

    Frederick’s Last Verse: “I’m not mad, I’m just horribly disappointed in you.”

    • @function0077
      @function0077 2 роки тому +126

      This is the parental dagger to the heart line.

    • @kumba713
      @kumba713 2 роки тому +29

      @@function0077 true

  • @ericperez9310
    @ericperez9310 11 місяців тому +12

    “Let me run down my resume will ya.
    Set up a little place called the United States. Sound familiar?” 🔥🔥

  • @amyschildgamerlive4519
    @amyschildgamerlive4519 Рік тому +14

    This is my fav erb video. The beats. The lines. The delivery... it's a masterpiece!

  • @mariaesthervillanueva729
    @mariaesthervillanueva729 4 роки тому +4832

    "You let freedom ring but never pick up the phone"
    Why aren't we talking about this line? Like, he kill him.

    • @ditw_music
      @ditw_music 3 роки тому +41

      Nah, wasn't that great. Jefferson's first verse was fire

    • @MohamedAli-nf1rp
      @MohamedAli-nf1rp 3 роки тому +135

      @@ditw_music you would be a dummy if you think jefferson won

    • @mariaesthervillanueva729
      @mariaesthervillanueva729 3 роки тому +77

      @@MohamedAli-nf1rp Douglass won is so obvious 👏👏

    • @MohamedAli-nf1rp
      @MohamedAli-nf1rp 3 роки тому +10

      @@mariaesthervillanueva729 ik

    • @Nesendrea
      @Nesendrea 3 роки тому +74

      To be honest, Douglass was spitting so much fire that by the end of the battle, Jefferson should have been sweating worse than Douglas’ people, cello or no.

  • @ChairmanLor
    @ChairmanLor 2 роки тому +4980

    Fun Fact: The dude who plays Douglas in this battle is J.B. Smoove, who also plays one of Peter Parker's teachers in the new Spiderman movies.

    • @Rygoat
      @Rygoat 2 роки тому +150

      and "Leon Black" from Curb Your Enthusiasm

    • @SkiggsMoDiggs
      @SkiggsMoDiggs 2 роки тому +56

      I thought he looked familiar

    • @weirdcarpetthing97
      @weirdcarpetthing97 2 роки тому +38

      Oh yeah he’s that witches guy

    • @jons_7402
      @jons_7402 2 роки тому +46

      He's also the barber in Everybody Hates Chris.

    • @chattaboxxx2332
      @chattaboxxx2332 2 роки тому +31

      This. This right fucking here. This made my week.

  • @seniorbob505
    @seniorbob505 2 роки тому +5

    I'd like to state that iv'e spent literally 2 and a half hours watching majority of season 1 thru 5 in my room singing and reenacting. Ive watched you guys since I was in middle school and now im 20 about to turn 21. ERB and the crew is literally the happiest place to visit especially when life is down. GO ERB!

  • @ryadachaibou8098
    @ryadachaibou8098 Рік тому +10

    the organ and lapsteel guitar when Douglas's verse starts are so sick

  • @andrewpeters6207
    @andrewpeters6207 3 роки тому +9971

    It's crazy how you guys balanced being respectful and redeeming Jefferson's character; while also shredding him to pieces. This is one of your finest videos.

    • @menthols4625
      @menthols4625 3 роки тому +625

      The only character in ERB to ever have to apologize to his opponent in the middle of a rap battle, only to have that apology denied and be told to fuck off. /// Respect
      Pick one, it can't be both.

    • @andrewpeters6207
      @andrewpeters6207 3 роки тому +330

      @@menthols4625 I am speaking to the fact that most writers of something like this today have ran to ignoring any of the good Jefferson did; and only see racist. Just read the comments, you will see consensus is that the stamp of racist is so big nothing else matters. Here Jefferson actually managed to dig himself out of that most dangerous brand. Douglass's retort was fair, it is the only truly fair criticism of Jefferson, that if he genuinely loved the slave girl who he was in a relationship with, why not take any steps to free her or move her to freedom? I will give you that his second verse had no attacks back, only a masterful knock down of the racist brand, is the one big negative of this video. Being branded racist is a death blow in today's political climate, so that they managed to have Jefferson brush that off and still walking away looking great, is respect for the man.

    • @trinwheeler4639
      @trinwheeler4639 2 роки тому +184

      Why shouldn't being a racist be a death brand? You can hate someone while still appreciating their work and efforts. Should a serial killer get a lighter sentence just because they made a nice painting or invented something? The answer is no.

    • @thehaloscrolls391
      @thehaloscrolls391 2 роки тому +97

      @@trinwheeler4639 your comparing hating a race to literally murdering several people brutally, both are bad, sure, but just being racist pales in comparison to the shit serial killers do

    • @trinwheeler4639
      @trinwheeler4639 2 роки тому +70

      @@thehaloscrolls391 Social death brand, dumb ass. You know, strip racists of their achievements and prestige just like they've done to people of color for millenia.

  • @PaperbackWizard
    @PaperbackWizard 4 роки тому +4656

    Not gonna lie, Douglass could have talked a little more about himself. He did more than just get his picture taken.

    • @kmjkmjkmj
      @kmjkmjkmj 4 роки тому +207

      You mean tell us he taught himself to read? He covered that.

    • @kikiretzorg1467
      @kikiretzorg1467 4 роки тому +428

      He didn't need to talk about himself to complete dismantle Jefferson by targeting his cognitive dissonance.

    • @kanoy7817
      @kanoy7817 4 роки тому +149

      That was the weakest line tbh, "oh you got your fucking face on a mountain, but I got the cool photos"

    • @kanoy7817
      @kanoy7817 4 роки тому +101

      @@loveleonk No, no I don't think they will.
      Unless the regressive left keeps pushing identity politics.

    • @majeedmamah7457
      @majeedmamah7457 4 роки тому +293

      @@kanoy7817 if identity politics turns you into a racist, you were already a racist.

  • @foggydogy5796
    @foggydogy5796 7 місяців тому +40

    Man, I love this battle! The fact that Jefferson spent his second verse apologizing for slavery is definitely in character with him. In the history books I've read most historians claim that Jefferson and other Virginia politicians spent a lot of time talking about how evil slavery was but didn't take any personal or political steps to stop it.

    • @CultureCrossed64
      @CultureCrossed64 6 місяців тому +4

      Jefferson fought to end the slave trade both in Virginia and nationally. So that's false from the jump- but he also put into the Declaration of independence that slavery was evil and was forced to take it out.

    • @mnm1273
      @mnm1273 2 місяці тому

      @@CultureCrossed64 He owned hundreds of slaves personally and politically his actions limited the trade but not the owning of slaves.

    • @spoopy9689
      @spoopy9689 2 місяці тому

      ​@@mnm1273and do you think he still would've been president if he freed them? The entire South was running and profiting off of slavery, Thomas Jefferson, if he freed his slaves, he would've probably been impeached, if he freed all the slaves, there might be an early Civil War that tears the country apart before it really became a country.

  • @rudysu3908
    @rudysu3908 Рік тому +2

    This is probably the deepest ERB, I love it when they are deep like this! It sends chills down my spin.

  • @paulpardee
    @paulpardee 4 роки тому +2471

    "when I stopped being an alien to your inalienable rights"
    Jesus Christ that hit hard!

    • @carlitojaunito2269
      @carlitojaunito2269 4 роки тому +5

      Paul Pardee suffer I made it uneven

    • @trappout3104
      @trappout3104 4 роки тому +3

      900th like

    • @AacaL05
      @AacaL05 4 роки тому +2

      Paul Pardee I really liked that line

    • @JoeJohnson-fc5wr
      @JoeJohnson-fc5wr 4 роки тому +28

      I liked the other one. "When we the people stopped meaning we the people who are white." That one really struck me.

    • @klaud7311
      @klaud7311 4 роки тому

      *unalienable

  • @sine-spike
    @sine-spike 3 роки тому +5076

    Ok but can we talk about how hilarious Jefferson’s facial expressions are throughout both of Frederick’s verses. He’s just like “Yikes, he’s right”

    • @TheWarriorofHonor
      @TheWarriorofHonor 2 роки тому +212

      more like "damn how do i get out of this??" XD

    • @MattBnl2ih
      @MattBnl2ih 2 роки тому +162

      Oppenheimer had the same exact expressions yet he still managed to say “fuck this guilt trip, this is a god damn rap battle”

    • @AtomBacon
      @AtomBacon 2 роки тому +8

      Had to re watch and focus on them but yeah they were great lmao.

    • @NavyGunnersMateMan
      @NavyGunnersMateMan 2 роки тому +8

      Not about every thing. He was kinda wrong on some so

    • @thetruth-hl7ct
      @thetruth-hl7ct 2 роки тому +3

      I think it was more like "Is that even English?"

  • @kurtcanas9122
    @kurtcanas9122 2 роки тому +3

    This one I can listen to for hours. SO GOOD!!!

  • @r3ked272
    @r3ked272 5 місяців тому +4

    Bars so fire Jefferson spent his entire second verse apologizing

  • @self-proclaimedcomedian1037
    @self-proclaimedcomedian1037 3 роки тому +4917

    Jefferson spending his full second verse explaining himself is so beautifully realistic. It's exactly what most politicians would do. It's genius, really

    • @Jonathan-oy8cl
      @Jonathan-oy8cl 2 роки тому +160

      I mean, he makes a better argument than most

    • @monke980
      @monke980 2 роки тому +220

      i mean but he was being legit, he was actually explaining shit, he wasn't just deflecting with vague ideas. it's really not that genius.

    • @bijuutamer729
      @bijuutamer729 2 роки тому +167

      It makes Jefferson look better because pretty much any president before Abe would have just been like, “lol don’t care you’re black”

    • @juanquixote4186
      @juanquixote4186 2 роки тому +38

      Certainly what the real Jefferson would have tried to do

    • @Adalon-
      @Adalon- 2 роки тому +28

      @@bijuutamer729 abe was basically the same way. All the freed slaves would have been forcibly repatriated if he hadn't been killed.
      Abe dislikes slavery, but people forget that is not what the war was about. Abe made it about that, after the fact and at a point the north was in trouble, to Garner support, rally people and to further demonize an enemy.
      They were just tools, as always in history.

  • @reefb6292
    @reefb6292 3 роки тому +2498

    "no compromise, you couldn't whip a fifth of me man". holyyy shit the three fifths compromise

    • @lokitmg4123
      @lokitmg4123 3 роки тому +18

      Oooooh yeah!

    • @loqutor
      @loqutor 2 роки тому +10

      Except that's not at all what the three-fifths compromise meant. The real Frederick Douglass would have known that.

    • @lachlanwashere1279
      @lachlanwashere1279 2 роки тому +77

      @@loqutor I mean, the ⅗ compromise did have to do with a slave's value, and I think they were trying to reference it's existence, not define it.

    • @samsondog2182
      @samsondog2182 2 роки тому +8

      @@lachlanwashere1279 The slave owners wanted their slaves to count as one person for voting rights and for more power. The compromise was to keep the slave owning democrat from gaining more voting power.

    • @Bribridude130
      @Bribridude130 2 роки тому +9

      It should have been “no compromise, you couldn’t whip three-fifths of me man”

  • @paolaviolet7
    @paolaviolet7 Рік тому +2

    Legendary !! Love this erb

  • @no_Monday420
    @no_Monday420 Рік тому +1

    this is one of my favourite ERB's. I am learning things without realising. Keep up the great work!!!

  • @jbfn14
    @jbfn14 3 роки тому +5000

    "The day the 13th damn ammendment was ratified
    and I ceased to be an alien to your inalienable rights"
    One of the most powerful lines in all of ERB.

    • @ssj2camaro21
      @ssj2camaro21 2 роки тому +7

      Property doesn't have rights.

    • @sayaksen7545
      @sayaksen7545 2 роки тому +165

      @Kacper he's a salty confederate I assume

    • @TheWarriorofHonor
      @TheWarriorofHonor 2 роки тому +15

      @@sayaksen7545 possible so, but he had a bit of a point, befire 1865, slaves were considered property (by some) and it is correct to say that property doesn't have right. technically it is correct, even if treating people as property is anything but correct

    • @passiveswan
      @passiveswan 2 роки тому +25

      @@ssj2camaro21 kay why ess

    • @UKMonkey
      @UKMonkey 2 роки тому +16

      Apart from the 13th just means that in order to have slaves, they need to be arrested first. Why do you think arrest rates are so high in America, especially of the black folks; or why America has one of the highest % of incarcerated people in the world?
      the 13th protects slavery - just in a hidden way.

  • @theblkbird5672
    @theblkbird5672 7 років тому +5012

    Who else thinks the beat in this is on point?

    • @talonpop
      @talonpop 7 років тому +139

      Makes me kinda wish Colonial rap was a thing

    • @aaronglandon00
      @aaronglandon00 7 років тому +38

      +Talon Marshall I suggest listening to Hamilton the Musical

    • @bryanlanderos2223
      @bryanlanderos2223 7 років тому +4

      +Talon Marshall lol

    • @chrisforsyth8323
      @chrisforsyth8323 7 років тому +38

      I loved it, and the Douglas bass line was fantastic.

    • @yasminadigun243
      @yasminadigun243 7 років тому

      I do

  • @Catching_Zzzs
    @Catching_Zzzs 8 місяців тому +5

    It's so funny how on the "WHO WON" screen it's just Fredrick Douglass

  • @martinduncan3765
    @martinduncan3765 8 місяців тому +24

    I feel like this should be put in every history class at least once a year

  • @potato-vm9ys
    @potato-vm9ys 4 роки тому +2355

    Me at 3 AM: Ok brain, I want to sleep...
    Brain: STRAIGHT OUTTA BONDAGE
    Edit: I come back to this comment in quarantine and HOLY MOLEY 2.3k likes AND an internet chorus performance? I am proud of you all fellow humans

    • @1ring182
      @1ring182 4 роки тому +16

      this mw right now

    • @LeeBreezy
      @LeeBreezy 4 роки тому +53

      BIG HAIR BIG NUTS BIG ISSUES

    • @ziadjouini1671
      @ziadjouini1671 4 роки тому +19

      THERE'S A REAL DECLARATION HEADS FOR RASIST TAILS FOR A SLAVE PLANTATION

    • @janus_1986
      @janus_1986 4 роки тому +17

      YOU'RE A SOFT, WHITE MONTICELLO MARSHMALLOW

    • @neinno8172
      @neinno8172 4 роки тому +18

      WATCHING MY PEOPLE SWEAT WHILE YOU SAT PLAYING CELLO- HELLO

  • @philliptivis3082
    @philliptivis3082 2 роки тому +5162

    Jefferson has an amazing first verse. The flow, the disses...it's quite a strong start...and then Douglas shuts it down with 3 words: "You finished? Okay..."

    • @Salsuero
      @Salsuero 2 роки тому +205

      Yeah. Very much an underrated opening in context by Douglas.

    • @MintyCoffee
      @MintyCoffee 2 роки тому +68

      Jefferson doesn’t have any disses in most of his first verse and none in his second xd

    • @MonsieurDijon
      @MonsieurDijon Рік тому +9

      not really no, but ok

    • @xanderzelef9757
      @xanderzelef9757 Рік тому +1

      @@MintyCoffee he kinda does

    • @justanotheranimeprofilepic
      @justanotheranimeprofilepic Рік тому +25

      He had the balls to stop Jeffersons flow instead of just turning it around

  • @blackulaphoto709
    @blackulaphoto709 2 роки тому +3

    Dear God I love that you are getting it in ways I never could , erb is doing more for true history than any school ever could and it brings a tear to my eye seeing people truly understand what actually happened . Not just here but all the videos it's amazing . Go forth and tell true history my loves the world needs to know

  • @thanchoul2754
    @thanchoul2754 2 роки тому +37

    TJ's first verse is one of the best of erb's history imo. Tbh,I don't know who won because although TJ's first verse was better than both Douglass' verses but the second one was just him apologizing. Really unique and underrated battle.

    • @steamedclams5689
      @steamedclams5689 Рік тому +3

      Probably some of the best flow in all of ERB.

    • @SiriusMined
      @SiriusMined Рік тому +2

      Douglas crushed him

    • @Hokum6
      @Hokum6 3 місяці тому +1

      @@SiriusMinedJefferson apologized with the second verse and ended it with some very weird offer of peace 'we cool'. Douglas could have stayed silent for his entire second verse and still would have won after that. weirdly done ERB.

    • @SiriusMined
      @SiriusMined 3 місяці тому

      @@Hokum6 not weirdly done at all. Jefferson's nonpology doesn't cut it.

  • @mikau2123
    @mikau2123 4 роки тому +1784

    "You finished?"
    That's code for "I'm about to destroy you"

  • @thebamman1
    @thebamman1 8 років тому +650

    Samuel L. Jackson VS. Morgan Freeman

    • @sharkluxry
      @sharkluxry 8 років тому +4

      yes

    • @TheSaul70
      @TheSaul70 8 років тому +2

      yep

    • @jakelancer9768
      @jakelancer9768 8 років тому +2

      Samuel Jackson vs... Denzel Washington.

    • @lewyseden6328
      @lewyseden6328 8 років тому

      Yes.

    • @RileyBaldock
      @RileyBaldock 8 років тому +9

      +JakeLancer Samuel L Jackson VS Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman interrupts as hi role as God in the movie Bruce Almighty

  • @theapostate2735
    @theapostate2735 7 місяців тому +6

    This ain't Louisiana man, I ain't buying it.
    *Jefferson awkwardly withdraws fist

  • @ReadytoDiveIn
    @ReadytoDiveIn Рік тому +11

    I love how when Jefferson says "Set up a little place called the United States sound familiar?" They showed the USA's biggest celebs (Marilyn Monroe, Baby Ruth, Benjamin Franklin, Barack Obama, Clint Eastwood, Elvis Presley, and Hulk Hogan) that have been featured in ERB and recorded new bits for 2 seconds!

  • @chancellorpalpatine3781
    @chancellorpalpatine3781 5 років тому +2472

    “No compromise you couldn’t whoop a fifth of me man”
    This line is very underrated as well as this whole rap battle. So many historical references.

    • @Sara-xr9ph
      @Sara-xr9ph 5 років тому +3

      Chancellor Palpatine atlanta compromise? what does the other part mean 😬

    • @typus6471
      @typus6471 5 років тому +53

      @@Sara-xr9ph nigga when he said whip a fith of me man, he meant the three fith compromise dawg

    • @Yirialo
      @Yirialo 5 років тому +61

      @@Sara-xr9ph it's based off of the 3/5 compromise. It was a compromise in the Constitutional convention. It was were southerners wanted slaves to count as "people" in their population so they can evenly proportion out Representatives, elector votes, etc. If that makes any sense.

    • @bimifoluwaomopariola8202
      @bimifoluwaomopariola8202 5 років тому +14

      And you can interpret it as "whooping" as in slave beating

    • @timschroyer1257
      @timschroyer1257 5 років тому +6

      Are we still using that 3/5ths lie? No where does it single out blacks or any other peoples group. It states those not freemen. That would include the irish indentured servants. And if a black man was free in the north he would be counted as a full person. The intent was to reduce the political power of the slave states so we could end slavery by passing a law instead of a war. The counting as 3/5 a man was not for their vote but as count for population for how many repesentitives a state got to send to congress. So if you wanted to end slavery you wanted the cslaves to not count at all! If you are a slave owner you wanted the slaves to count as a full person. Read the actual amendment and think. Don't just repeat your ignorant racial studies prof.

  • @i.j.dragonfly3123
    @i.j.dragonfly3123 4 роки тому +556

    "No compromise, you couldn't whip a 5th of me man!"
    That line was fire.

    • @xavierstanton8146
      @xavierstanton8146 4 роки тому +13

      It is referencing the Three Fifths Compromise?

    • @rexduodecim3528
      @rexduodecim3528 3 роки тому +6

      @@xavierstanton8146 Yes it is

    • @loqutor
      @loqutor 3 роки тому +1

      Except that's not how the three-fifths compromise worked.

  • @ScarcelyLucky
    @ScarcelyLucky Місяць тому +2

    Dude, I've listened to this probably nearly 100 times, starting on the day it came out. I JUST got "Ah Fredrick I've never heard a verse I dug less."

  • @FlamingoRadio_
    @FlamingoRadio_ Рік тому +4

    I find myself coming back to this battle so much over the years. I find myself effortlessly reciting the entire video second by second alongside the rest of ERB’s vast library. I find myself wondering how my brain has engraved ERB’s entire catalog yet won’t store more important recollections. I find myself not able to sleep at 2AM, falling down the same insomnia rabbit hole. I find myself relying on familiar content to hide from the dark. I find myself clinging onto the leg of UA-cam in desperation before I’m taken.

  • @danielsilva2200
    @danielsilva2200 4 роки тому +904

    Best flow: Jefferson
    Best disses: Freddy D.
    Loser: King George

  • @seanbourdier8756
    @seanbourdier8756 2 роки тому +3121

    My favorite thing about this battle is how Jefferson showed up for a regular battle, and Douglass was clearly here with a mission, addressing slavery. Going up against a founding father, he knew what he was doing and then Jefferson has to like back pedal because the whole battle has changed now so he has to cover his ass about it.

    • @SkiggsMoDiggs
      @SkiggsMoDiggs 2 роки тому +137

      Yeah, although Thomas could've just not acknowledged it and continued like most tend to do when their opponent brings up a mistake they can't deny, Thomas wanted to address his accusations. I think that says a bit about him as well, but then again, so does his actions

    • @JB-gw7xf
      @JB-gw7xf 2 роки тому +174

      @@SkiggsMoDiggs Jefferson was well aware of his own hypocrisy on slavery. In "Notes on the State of Virginia" he said
      "Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever: that considering numbers, nature and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by supernatural interference! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest."

    • @danielkokal8819
      @danielkokal8819 Рік тому +61

      @@JB-gw7xf Damn that boy could write.

    • @DCPTF2
      @DCPTF2 Рік тому

      yep nothing like shoving white guilt down the viewer throat

    • @jaqua7732
      @jaqua7732 Рік тому +8

      Yes that was very well played, but all of these epicrapbattles usually are

  • @tastydoge
    @tastydoge 10 місяців тому +5

    I get the message, BUT Thomas Jefferson's first verse was the best intro verse I've ever heard.

  • @NievesTheWitch
    @NievesTheWitch Рік тому +6

    "Looking like a skunk in a 3 piece suit, didn't come back from Paris to battle Pepe le pew"
    Love that line lol

  • @emmab3275
    @emmab3275 7 років тому +400

    I swear this is the most underrated battle. It's one of my top 5, easily.

    • @leslierae6416
      @leslierae6416 7 років тому +12

      Fuck yeah, the rhymes are sick

    • @nicholasvath5896
      @nicholasvath5896 7 років тому +16

      The line "You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone" Damn

    • @LadyPallas
      @LadyPallas 7 років тому +2

      Emma B yeah the beat is great. I'm a producer and I pay attention to that lol

    • @dreadedpatrick9876
      @dreadedpatrick9876 7 років тому +1

      same

    • @healyrose4957
      @healyrose4957 7 років тому

      Emma B

  • @sewtom7309
    @sewtom7309 5 років тому +2872

    I get that Douglass definitely won this one, but Jefferson's first verse was pretty much flawless, and among the best verses in all of ERB. Rivalled by very few.

    • @jacobgushue866
      @jacobgushue866 4 роки тому +98

      Major Spook they stacked the battle, which is fine since it was straight fire

    • @diegomontesleon136
      @diegomontesleon136 4 роки тому +263

      I think that's what makes this battle so interesting. Jefferson brought in a clean-cut brag-rap, that against anyone else would have caused a stalemate. Like Shaka Zulu's opener against Julius Caesar.
      And then comes in Douglas. Instead of trying to out-brag Jefferson, he picks up Jefferson's own ego trip and hits him with his own flaws. That also helps to make his point; Because Jefferson was a great man, he isn't even trying to outdo him, but he also was a very flawed figure, which is what Douglas has an issue with.

    • @Arcessitor
      @Arcessitor 4 роки тому +89

      @@diegomontesleon136 Lol Shaka got destroyed by Caesar. His best diss was about Caesar being stabbed by friends, while Shaka himself was stabbed by his own family. Lol.

    • @AceGANNON-tu3qh
      @AceGANNON-tu3qh 4 роки тому +61

      If it was even it would have been Jefferson all the way. But Jefferson only had one verse. Jeffersons second verse was just him apologizing for his flaws
      I don't think that Douglass had bad raps. I was saying it's not as good as Jeffersons bars. I would put Jeffersons first verse with the likes of the fathers of the Renaissance. Almost unmatched like the top comment said. But Douglass steamrolled Jefferson like James bond did. He didn't let Jefferson get words in and you can tell Jeff want to say stuff

    • @firstnamexlastname9190
      @firstnamexlastname9190 4 роки тому +1

      I agree

  • @TheCombatEditor62
    @TheCombatEditor62 8 місяців тому +5

    1:35 Oh my freaking gosh! that is the most epic line I've heard about Thomas Jefferson and it completely describes him and his actions to a T! this battle was pretty evenly matched, but I'm calling it for Frederick Douglass.

  • @marysmith7765
    @marysmith7765 2 роки тому

    I just found this channel yesterday and I’ve been gleefully binging. I could have spent so much productive quarantine time memorizing these rhymes.

  • @mandaloalaluna
    @mandaloalaluna 8 років тому +572

    Bear Grylls vs Dora the Explorer.

  • @SharkByteOfficial
    @SharkByteOfficial 7 років тому +2990

    "Ahh Frederick, I've never heard a verse I *dug less*" How the shet did I just notice this lol

    • @cuttle9901
      @cuttle9901 7 років тому +3

      What

    • @LithKast
      @LithKast 7 років тому +274

      Verse I Dug less. Meaning he didn't like the verse.
      Dug less or Douglass. sound the same.

    • @natgeowildbackup
      @natgeowildbackup 7 років тому +27

      Dude, I literally commented the same thing 3 weeks ago lol. We both think alike.

    • @SharkByteOfficial
      @SharkByteOfficial 7 років тому +3

      ***** lol

    • @Dragons4Dummies
      @Dragons4Dummies 7 років тому +4

      You just pointed out a whole extra curve ball to this epic edition XD

  • @Vorshiva
    @Vorshiva Рік тому +1

    Damnnnn! The beat alone to this is amazing haha I was jamming so hard great work!

  • @uscreativegamers
    @uscreativegamers 2 роки тому +7

    On his podcast, Frederick Douglass said that he would have rapped his part if ERB would have asked him

  • @crashbandicoot5636
    @crashbandicoot5636 5 років тому +2369

    "Man, you did some good things I ain't denying your fame; Just sayin' they need to put an asterisk... Next to your name."
    F.D. killed it with the last verse.

    • @illiteratekiwi6536
      @illiteratekiwi6536 5 років тому +46

      F. D. Killed with the whole song

    • @tristanhoward4808
      @tristanhoward4808 5 років тому +5

      What does it mean???

    • @multiplayerrkmedia1764
      @multiplayerrkmedia1764 5 років тому +107

      tristan howard Asterisks mean that there’s more information than provided on the topic it’s next to. F.D’s saying Thomas shouldn’t just be known for his positive actions but also his negatives

    • @tristanhoward4808
      @tristanhoward4808 5 років тому +2

      MULTIplayerRK Media ohh I figured as much

    • @tristanhoward4808
      @tristanhoward4808 5 років тому +2

      MULTIplayerRK Media thanks bri

  • @rjk597
    @rjk597 4 роки тому +2649

    Not gonna lie, even Jefferson’s apology was fire

  • @MrMarcelo252
    @MrMarcelo252 Рік тому +1

    This is the best ERB so far

  • @challenjour7907
    @challenjour7907 Рік тому +6

    Basically this battle:
    Frederick: lol u racist.
    Thomas: Oh