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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2023
- T. Russell Hunter swats away fallacious argument after fallacious argument.
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It is astounding the length people will go in order to excuse their sin. Heartbreaking.
like ever singer or rapper or the whole media.
Absolutely 💯
It's scary I glanced at this and thought it said "execute their kin" chills.
@HoppyPotty lol damn now i see it harsh but powerful.
Yeah, she even goes as far as saying that she hates her own life. That she'd rather not exist at all. And she does it only to be consistent. It's like she doesn't hear herself. 7:05
As someone who was beat by his mother and went through the foster care system… I can 100% say I’d rather go through all that a billion times over than be dead, cuz ya know I’d be dead. Quality of life isn’t an argument for murder…
They want to say that there are people alive who shouldn't be, but are too afraid to say that, so instead they're pro-abortion.
@@astrovarius543Hint: most aborted babies are black
The problems with foster care don’t mean we need to kill children 🤦🏻♂️
Not necessarily. Thousands of people commit suicide every year due to horrific illnesses and suffering. They'd rather be dead than suffer one minute longer. Have you ever had your dog or cat put to sleep so he will no longer suffer? I am not pro-abortion, but quality of life matters. There's something called a "mercy killing." It's not morally right, but it can be a gift in some situations.
@@NicolesNaturals You went from suicide (self inflicted) to people who “rather be dead”, (self destruction), like assisted suicide programs in Canada. To then talking about killing a dog or cat who doesn’t have a choice and has no idea what’s happening… if we apply that to a human aka someone else making the choice to kill someone because they’re on life support, it’s still murder if it’s not their choice.
I’ve said this before in a comment but I think it’s important for some people to hear. I was 21 when I got pregnant and I was raped. I ALMOST had an abortion. Set up the appointment showed up they showed me an ultrasound and I panicked and said I can’t do this. They sent me to an obgyn and today I have a beautiful 3 year old that I look at every day and absolutely adore. I do not see my rapist. I see a beautiful little girl that has changed my life in ways I couldn’t have imagined before and created a love I didn’t know was possible. She’s beautiful and I wouldn’t trade her for the world; I want to cry every time I think about that I was about to do and I’m so glad I stopped it and she is literally the best thing that’s ever happened to me.
You sound like a living saint! May God bless you and your daughter!
@@maryweisenbacher1034 I’m not. I almost did the worst thing I ever wouldn’t done, but I didn’t! And I’m so so glad I didn’t! She’s a beautiful girl and we’re doing very well today 🙃
Thank you for sharing ❤
Thank you for telling your story. Please continue shouting it far and wide as you are an earth angel here to save babies. God bless you and keep you in everything you do❣️🙏❤️🔥🛡⚔️👑🕊✨💖💫
Thank goodness you didn't go through with it. You would have had years and years of painful regret. I am so pleased you choose to have you baby born. You are a real hero.
Whoever convinced these young ladies that having a kid will certainly ruin their life is a criminal. Having kids was literally the most important thing I could’ve ever done for this world
“Have you adopted any kids”
The real question is; if I agreed to adopt your child would you agree to not kill it?
That's why it's a lie by omission to call them pro choice. The only choice they're for is abortion. They're probably abortion. Saturnists need their child sacrifice.
Like if he answered Yes, she would be like "oh, ok, then I'll denounce abortion and come over to your side". It's like if you can Only save One individual from a sinking ship, it's best to just let everyone drown. Pathetic thinking at its best.
Did the 1st abolishionist of slavery just quit because they lost their 1st battle? No, they kept going. You don't give up the whole fight because of one failed attempt.
As for the worn out "the kids will suffer I poverty" line. I was born in a 3rd world country about 50 years ago. My parents were dirt poor as children and in early adulthood. Did the abort any kids because they were Living in poverty?...Heck NO! The were two brave hard working individuals who didn't make excuses. They stood up and faced life head on. They had Heart. Whining and complaining like this woman in this video would help them with nothing. She is in America and yet complains like a spoiled brat that didn't get two plates of lobster and stake for breakfast. Blind and ungrateful.
I had an Aunt that raised 12 kids. She would slap the doughnut out this woman's mouth if she heard her say she was going to abort her child because she couldn't afford to raise it in America. They're have been countless 3rd world couples that have come to America and raised multiple children despite starting at the bottom dirt poor. Yet woman like this one on here are Pathetically weak. They say that they can't afford a kid, yet they will continue to spend money on cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, and many other unnecessary and useless items. It's all about their selfish desires.
Let's vote to take ALL the money from Abortion mills/clinics and revamp the Foster Care system and the like to care for the children. Also use some of that money to help single mom's that have the courage to keep their babies. Educate women and men to respect their bodies and vet the individual they will marry. Sex before marriage is Very unwise.
For the women AND men who are hell-bent on being irresponsible sexually, Auomatic vasectomy and hysterectomy (or at a minimum tubeligation). If you can't be responsible on your own, We will help you. They majority of the cost will be deducted from their paycheck each week. Don't want to pay, prison sentence for 5 years, then during parol hearing they can let us know if they are ready to handle the business at hand. This seems harsh, but killing a kid is no faint act.
“No. Next question.”
“Have you ever let an almost-murder victim crash at your house?”
Thats a great response
"I don't like being alive. I hate this world." This perfectly sums up liberalism and where their views come from - the hatred of humanity and of self.
Bingo!👏🏿
But they still don't commit suicide. Hypocrisy.
@@olgakipke3720 The others make life hell.
Yep.
I lived most of my life that way, but with this heavy veil that portrays “humanity is amazing”.
If it were not for God’s sovereign will in my life, I am 99% confident I’d be defending abortion (and the rest of today’s chaos) in all fervor.
Praise God for His irresistible call and opening the eyes of mu heart to hear His Word and know it to be true.
Pretty much.
It’s staggering how little people have thought through what they so confidently assert
A man and his pride are soon separated.
People don't need a manageable intelligence to have an opinion. 😂😅
It turns out that people are really good parrots 🦜
1 point for not screaming minus 3 points for nervously eating
So we're supposed to listen to this person's opinion and she doesnt even like being alive?
They don't like being alive because this existence is suffering and they're disconnected from divinity. They've shut their hearts to God and accepted demons.
@@denofpigs2575 Not necessarily demons, but they've embraced their sin nature.
@@sheeniebeanie2597 Demons are more real than you think. Take my word for it. Or don't. Makes no difference to me.
You have to keep in mind a 14 or 15 year old is growing up in a time where victimhood is a quality that demands attention. They just say all these things now. They aren't typically even close to true.
@denofpigs2575 I am with you but your profile picture makes it really hard to take you seriously 🥲 Not a good look if you know its history
I'll give her one point for not screaming. Which is very rare in these debates😂😂
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Ehhh it's not VERY rare. It's not uncommon for people to scream but it's also not the majority of responses. There's many people who just act stupid, passive aggressive, deflect, ignore, interrupt, laugh and mock, twist words, use fallacies and strawmen arguments, virtue signal and provoke and act spitefully. And then there's actually a decent plurality of people who listen to a relatively decent degree but usually they still do lots of those negative argument tactics.
I give her a point for saying at only women can produce children 😂
She was being kept calm by food...
@@HelloThere....."AcktUalLy"...
Ok
The fourteen-year-old with zero life experience wants to try to debate and parent on actual parenting
"I will ruin my life if I have this kid. I won't be able to go to school...."
of all things that ruin lives more than anything else, public schools are near the top.
So sick of people using the foster kid argument. Foster kids spend, on average, 2 years in foster care. So it’s not how people make it out to be. Foster care is a messed up system but you have Progressives to thank for the horrible system.
I had abuse, abandonment, other traumatic events happen to me and my siblings. BUT had my mother aborted me, I wouldn’t have been abused but I also wouldn’t have grown up to help people in need. Or all the animals I’ve helped. Or all the friends I’ve helped. It would have also taken my sons life away who is now married and a wonderful husband to his wife. I would have missed being adopted by an awesome family. Trips to the beach, and Disney World. Going to church. Birthday parties. Getting my first puppy. Summers in the mountains and at VBS. Hanging out with my friends and school plays. So much good that wouldn’t have been in the world so I could have avoided part of my childhood being messed up?
I WAS A FOSTER KID.
DO NOT USE ME.
I HAVE FRIENDS WHO WERE FOSTER KIDS I WOULDNT HAVE WANTED YOU TO KILL THEM EITHER.
Foster kids aren’t the product of unwanted parents. Their parents desperately wanted them, but themselves hit rock bottom with mental illness, drug addiction, maybe both parents have passed, I have also seen kids removed unwarranted and parents fighting and jumping through every hoop for years tryin to get their kids back and cps refuse. Anyways my point is baby’s saved from abortion through adoption will never see foster care, they won’t ever be in the system, they have a family long before they are even born. Foster care children are not children of parents who didn’t want them because if that was the case, the state need not take them as the children would have already been adopted. Foster care exist for the child’s safety until family reunification. The foster care argument is just a bad one because adoption and foster care are not the same. Also to kill a child of possible hardship later on in life is nuts. You don’t have to be a foster child to experience traumatic events so basing abortion rights off that argument as a means to make murder seems morally justified is absurdity. I am about to go off on a side tangent but I think it’s important. I have had this theory for awhile that girls don’t want to carry a baby, bond with it, deliver it, then go through the hardship of handing it over, perhaps some are afraid they will get to that point and not be able to give up their child. I assumed this why women were choosing abortion and over adoption but then we see young women having babies and just tossing them away like they are nothing, trying to hide the fact they had a baby.
I just don’t know what to make out of it.
Don't forget the 13 Yr old too 🙄
@@AmreeHollidayyou Don’t know what to make of it…Ever read a history book? Ancient human textbook (Bible)?
Last time we were throwing babies to the crocodiles things got Biblical fast 😂
God bless you, and your testimony.
New born Baby’s never wait for adoption. There is a waiting list for baby’s. Children do wait for adoptive family’s though.
Newborns born when the mom chose adoption before delivery will NEVER see the inside of a foster home, the ignorance is just so blaring...
Because they are being adopted to a family right away right?
@@DS-ld8nsYes, there’s more people who want to adopt newborns than newborns who need families.
For each newborn being put up for adoption, there’s multiple people who want to adopt them.
Also people’s arguments about children in the foster system not getting adopted is misunderstood as well. The purpose of the foster system is reunification. It is to care for children whose parents are unable to (due to lack of resources/home, addictions or imprisonment etc). It is supposed to be temporary for the children who enter it. Of course sometimes reunification doesn’t end up happening and those unfortunately are the children who end up staying in the system. I agree that the system should be reformed to better care for and protect these children, but the arguments concerning the failure of the foster system are a reason to justify abortion are not correct. They have nothing to do with one another.
I love this, this is true and something I have been saying for quite some time. 100% of newborn babies get adopted!
@@charmaineellwanger4988 true, its unrelated to abortion, but even if those babies went into foster care, they would have a much greater than 50% chance adoption because the younger you are the more likely to be adopted and half of kids in foster care cant be adopted under any circumstance anyway legally.
It’s amazing she couldn’t stop snacking long enough to get a full sentence out without food in her mouth.
Why do people want to defend the “right” to destroy a life, like literally physically tearing an innocent baby apart, so badly?? It’s really evil.
"I hate this world, I hate being alive." And right there.... that's the sentiment that is poison.
With people like her around I hate this world too in a way, and can't wait for the kingdom that's coming. But living? That's a gift man, even if it's painful and horrible. Sure beats being dead. And you can't really escape "life" anyways because of the whole afterlife thing.
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 I agree. Thanks for your comment.
I hate my life so nobody else should be born is quite a wild take
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 You have zero evidence that the afterlife exists. Do you often wish things into existence too?
@@ns88ster We have pretty good evidence for Jesus's existence and the witnesses of his miracles and teachings, and for the truthfulness of the historical claims of the Bible, and we know that God's moral order is real. It's not much of a leap of faith to believe that God is real. It's true that I can't provide you 100% inrefutable scientific evidence of the afterlife that you could not refute, but that's why it's called faith, and not knowing. It allows for genuine morality.
Her stuffing her face while talking is really off putting in it of itself.
Ha! I just wrote that a few minutes ago before I saw your comment. It’s incredibly off putting, combined with the neurotic energy.
Her body thinks she is pregnant, sooo... lol It is super annoying listening to the rude eating and talking with her mouth full. However, it seems fitting for her.
@@sarahbeee Very annoying and gross. And as soon as the rude 14 year old sister opened her mouth, I would have shushed her. Lol
Sorry I agree with you I just have to say it’s “in and of itself” not “In it if itself”
@@knarph66 Shit. I can't believe I fucked that up
Her mind is like a pinball machine.
The fact she wont stop stuffing her voice during a conversation says a lot about her and her life choices.
The modern day western society
Very rude
The bigger issue is that she says she’s 14 and not old enough to have a baby but then later says she’s on birth control…… what is going on in this world….?
I learned not too long ago that some women are prescribed birth control meds to help regulate abnormal menstrual cycles. Of course, I have no idea if that applies to the young lady in the video.
She wants to be sexually active but not ready for the responsibility of becoming a mother. But she'll have an abortion if the pill fails her (like she forgets to take it)
I just found out my niece (who's a teenager) was prescribed birth control to regulate her iron deficiency. But she also has a boyfriend. And no one in my immediate family thinks of abstinence or marriage. Just a lot of exes and babies. But I love my nephews and nieces.
Birth control pills are used more for actual health regulation than contraception. Most women I know using the pills use them for health rather than preventing pregnancy. As prolife as I am I do not think we should get rid of birth control. It helps women and young girls. It's not for me because it messes with my hormones really bad but I would never advocate for the government taking it away from other females.
@@Egh0127Can you name the "health" benefits? Or is that the same data from people that love abortion?
“I think that’s hilarious…” as she fumbles through her 50th failed argument
"Liberal Logic 101"
And obnoxiously eats her corn nuts
@@Josh-hh2cuso obnoxious
A 14y child engaging in debate bc she’s not afraid to have her ideas challenged. Allowing her to take in information to learn from instead of avoiding information that could challenge her beliefs.
14y olds having beliefs based off emotions is normal. Gaining knowledge to calibrate the validity of those beliefs is part of becoming mature.
I respect someone being 14 caring enough to start contemplating and being challenged on serious ideas.
@@Chris-mo9gt I would agree with you, but she is incapable of listening and evaluating. All she wants to do is get one gotcha moment from the guy in the hopes he hasn’t explored all of the talking points her so-called peers have regurgitated for years. This is the worst kind of “student” the one who passively “agrees” with you “except” for the next rabbit trail that goes nowhere and never challenges anything. This situation is here because kids haven’t been told to sit down and shut up, they have been told to stand up and bark on order to make their handlers pleased with their indoctrination. Again, it would be great if this was a free exchange of ideas, but it’s not- it’s a one way drive by of tribal rituals and another guy offering a morally consistent claim.
At least this young woman isn't yelling or swearing. She's actually trying to have a discussion.
How do you figure ? She was more interested in smacking on her popcorn
while rudely stuffing her face
No extra credit for doing what we should already be doing.
Adopted as a baby, 61 years ago. Very happy my mother did not abort me my wife, 4 daughters, and 10 grandkids are also happy.
Glad you were not aborted!!!!
It’s sad that so many don’t realize how foolish and hypocritical they sound. We don’t teach people to think anymore. We’re raising parrots.
Cult members. It's a cult of death.
That’s exactly what the elites want.
Right? Just take how kids are taught most things. It’s all about regurgitation of information that a teacher gives them. Pass the test and you can forget it for the rest of your life. We need to adopt a different methodology of teaching, imo going in the direction of the Socratic method. Ask questions and don’t give answers, let the students reach the proper conclusions in any instance where you feasibly can.
This is a part of thinking. Advancing arguments and holding your beliefs out for public scrutiny to see if they can withstand criticism-particularly those you hold that have never been challenged.
The reason she sounds hypocritical is because she cannot understand she’s making hypocritical arguments which no one ought to find convincing.
I’m 100% pro abortion, but the reason she’s finding it so difficult to overcome his arguments is because the problems she raises with them aren’t well thought out. I’ve simply never heard a ghost of a compelling argument for why I would ever agree to support legislation authorizing our public employees to force women to remain pregnant against their will-especially upon threat or penalty of criminal consequences.
I’m certainly open to listening to them, but cannot imagine one I think people ought to find justifies this kind of government power over women that hasn’t been made already.
She’s not recognizing the bait and switch built into the way this fellow is arguing-conflating a right to life, with a right to life even if that means using someone else’s body against their will-as if those were somehow the same thing.
Here’s the actual hypocrisy-free version:
Everybody, born or unborn, has an equal right to life.
Nobody, born or unborn, has a right to use someone else’s body against their will, even if they would die without it.
The hypocrisy of abortion prohibition (or “abolition”, as they have cleverly rebranded to linguistically align themselves with slavery abolitionists and make those who oppose them “anti-abolitionists” without saying so, lol), is that it is masquerading as equal rights for the born and unborn-while in fact it is actually the demand for EXTRA rights for the fetus which can only be purchased by the forced surrender of a woman’s right not to be forced to remain pregnant against her will.
The hypocrisy-free position would be you have a right to life, no matter who you are-born or unborn. You have zero right-born or unborn-to use someone else’s body against their will to remain alive.
The hypocritical position is: You have zero right to life if that involves the use of someone else’s body against their will…if you’re already born. If you’re unborn, we’ll abandon that principle and standard and an exception is demanded.
@@mookiewilson4166 You do not find murder of a defenseless child a compelling reason against.
“Mandatory vasectomies for the poor” is a crazy hill to die on
Even better, the quote “abortion is healthcare” that all these people chant is first attributed to Vladimir Lenin, who, as a Marxist, believed the elimination of undesirables was the greatest good a society could achieve.
Another fun fact: Given enough time and resources, Adolf Hitler would have used abortion to end European Judaism. He ultimately resorted to death camps due to the urgency of his “final solution.”
It’s fun to think that United States abortions are the living legacy of Stalin and Hitler. Good stuff.
Planned parenthood agrees and approves this message concerning "evil" men..
Mask off moments. 😂
@@marzupalamithat german leader was actually inspired by her! The progressives have absolutely no idea just how backwards they are.
Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist.
She doesn’t even know WHAT she believes. She only knows that she can’t put down that snack.
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Lol, yeah, sad but true. Let's pray for her. She is young, there is hope.
Poor girl...if you're listening, please stop and say a prayer for her. She is beyond confused about anything in life😢
I lost 30 points of IQ listening to those girls.
They are young and they are learning and having a calm debate. Easy fella
@@osgiliath4 If you've had any experience in teaching, you can see they weren't learning.
Ignoring everything said to you or dismissing it in order to repeatedly throw spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks is not learning.
Easy ignoramus.
Still better than the 130 I lost reading the Bible.
@@clydecash5659 Do tell. Too complex for you? Tragic.
I didn't. After listening to her, I just put mine back in my holster and zoned out. FALSE ALARM EVERYBODY, FALSE ALARM! 🚨😁📣
I hate when they try to argue that you can't be pro life if you don't also adopt a bunch of kids. I haven't adopted any kids but that doesn't mean I cannot stand against the murder of them...
Literally
It is the ultimate example of throwing stones from a glass house. It's liberals that are always sqwaking at us to show "compassion" for our fellow man but studies show they donate less blood, volunteer less time, give less money to charity, AND adopt fewer kids than conservatives. They support public housing, no doubt. Have they ever let a homeless person crash with them? Certainly not.
Besides, we want people to be responsible for themselves, they want people to take responsibility for others. If neither of us have adopted a child we didn't create, who's the real hypocrite there.
Ya...logical consistency isn't their strong suit...
It's such an ignorant and disingenuous argument. The vast majority of kids in the foster care system are not eligible for adoption
I HATE the adoption argument!! I've adopted, and that has nothing to do with the
The murder of a baby.
AND...... I have zero interest in *tooting my own horn.* That we have adopted is not up for discussion/debate.
I am the mother of 2 disabled children. One is now 35 and profoundly brain injured. He is still in diapers, non verbal and like an infant in his 6 foot 3 inch, 245 pound body.. He is the product of rape. I adore him with all my heart. There are hundreds of thousands of people waiting to adopt babies and children. Adoption is the only answer.
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I heard a heartbreaking story about a 16 year old who was forced by her mother to get an abortion and it screwed her up mentally. Her younger sister was vehemently against abortion after that.
She realised she wasn't going to win the argument, so she spewed whatever came to mind.
Did the adults forget to teach her to not speak while chewing?!
This is never taught
Look and listen to her. They didn't teach her a lot of things. Shame on the parents
Did sounds like she was raised by wolves......
“50 miles of Yellowstone in Nevada.”
Explains her reasoning.
I can hear how her brain is trying really hard to turn the gears… but it just gives up somewhere 😑
The (mom/sister? Of) 14 year old girl said shes doesnt like being alive, we have a mental health crisis among young people that needs to be addressed
You thought that main girl talking was the mom of the other girl?!? She is obviously young and even said, 'I'm not old enough to have kids.'
You are legendary. Cool, calm, grounded, logical. I don't care if you agree with this man, but you should applaud him for these traits.
I agree, while listening I had to stop what I was doing due to me shaking my head to the many "well if this, what about that" arguments. As well as to satiate my curiosity and bolster idea of what an individual making such loose claims and arguments looks like.
This interaction is even more interesting or ridiculous, depending on the interpretation, due to this young individual probably subscribing to the idea/worldview that "their truth" is the Truth. And if this is correct she's as bigoted as he is, because she thinks he's wrong, due to "truth" being objective and constrained to materialism.
Sorry for the rant, stay safe and stay strong out there, Jesus Christ loves you.
He doesn’t need aggressive. The signs and position does enough to trigger people who don’t want to be controlled by idiot science or some antiquated book
@johnrambo8796 I'll assume english isn't your first language and that you disagree with the points made by the abolitionist, due to you saying "idiot science" and "antiquated book".
Science is nothing more than a system that looks at the process of how materials/subjects act, based on a hypnosis, repeated observation, and peer review. In no way is organic science controlling. It's simply descriptive, those that wish to guide/manipulate narratives in place of science are the ones seeking control.
In regards to the "antiquated book", you're again missing the mark, as I'm sure you mean outdated and not simply old-fashioned. As an old-fashioned book, the Bible makes a transcendental argument for the existence for God. Which inturn gives justification for all presumed meta physical principles such as logic, truth, language, math, and more, that many claim to be social constructs and or a result of evolution. The Bible isn't a control mechanism, it's guidance to those who seek Truth(God). Though mans pursuit of Truth can be tainted/corrupted often by the pursuit of knowledge/power, this doesn't degrade nor discount Truth. If it the Bible was based in control, it wouldn't be able to account for and make way for those who may and those that are struggling to make proper decisions.
I highly recommend you look into TAG, the transcendental argument for God, as well as eastern orthodox christianity. As it seems you view the Bible in a very modern view, and likely craft your understanding of christianity to that of the catholic worldview. My apologies for the lengthy response.
@@4ja2vi0if the Bible isn’t a control mechanism, then stop trying to control people with it!!
@@4ja2vi0most people have very little knowledge of the Bible
This poor girl is so confused. It’s a shame what society has done to our children
"I'm not an adult"
"I'm on birth control"
How tf are these two statements from the same human being 😭
Society is failed
Because lots of young girls at a certain age start becoming women and their bodies behave like an adult female's before the age of consent. For good or for bad, it has become a common practice to give these young ladies birth control pills even if it is just to "regulate" their cycle. Meaning, to make it predictable. Even if it is for no other reason than for that. Then as these young ladies reach their 30's, they begin to really wonder why they are having so many female related health issues.
Still waiting for one well reasoned and coherent thought. . . .
You shouldn’t be bothered. You should be grateful that at 14 you didn’t have any stupid ideas and were intellectually superior to other 14y olds.
Like imagine Super Man being upset humans couldn’t fly. You just have to accept you’re better than us.
@@Chris-mo9gt What the hell are you even talking about? Guess I'm still waiting. . .
She did say that women make babies. Considering she called herself a 'progressive' I think that's progress of a kind.
@@tkunzy3707the point is she is 14. Cut her a little slack.
How about this? No lifeform not even human has the right to be a parasite and suck life from a non-consenting host. Would you be ok with bill gates using you as a blood bag if it was the only way he could stay alive?
Shes one of those people that thinks the casual snacking means she's laid back, unbothered, and controlling the conversation. In reality you just look rude and slobby.
If you don't want to own a slave, don't buy a slave is what I hear when people say if you don't want to have an abortion, don't have an abortion.
Some arguments are stronger than others but “how many kids have you adopted?” is a just a non-argument.
I am so glad that there were no pregnant women near this "debater"; the risk of brain damage to the foetuses just by listening to her would have been catastrophic.
She's a kid. Her brain isn't even done developing. At least she was asking questions and genuinely seemed interested in contemplating the ethics.
@@vevrvivnv 14 yr olds today are very different than in my era. We were expected to have responsibly and still weren’t as entitled as these kids today. It’s beyond cognition. These kids are completely narcissistic, and have been pumped with political dogma since kindergarten. If you took the time you could stop and count how many points of common rhetoric she used. They’ve been encouraged to memorize them all since the were small.
@@nicoledickerson9516One thing we know for a 100% undeniable fact. Nothing you said is bc of the children.
Also in your era you had a speck of the information to take in that is shoved in the face of children today.
You’re trying to make it seem like you’re the reason why you were better. You are actually lucky.
If your era had to deal with mass amounts of mature content at an age you should be able to be a kid it would have had the same effects.
Breaks my heart to see so many broken people. Sending them love and prayers.
Yea but he’ll just keep holding his sign, spitting out his bullshit but sure, do whatever.
@@clydecash5659Sending love and prayer your way my friend 🙏
@geness9676
Not necessary. Just leave medical issues to medical experts. Not church people who like to pretend they are doctors.
I just thought of an incredible argument against women saying "what if I was raped and I had to give birth to the child, it would ruin my life!". Thank you for this video Abolitionists Rising, praise God.
I give this lady 100% credit for having a non-hostile conversation. Now I’m only a few minutes and I don’t know what happens at the end but most of the people I see approach this man or just unhinged wackos and they can’t even have a normal conversation.
This is exactly how every single person in my generation argues. I take heat all the time for standing up for what God demands and having a strong opinion with substance, and I’d say this girl represents about 9/10 people my age. She fumbles on and on into different point after different point trying to formulate and hand craft this argument with analogy’s and arguments, which in this case, could all be answered with “don’t have sex if you’re not ready to be the father/mother of a child.” Everybody wants to do as they please with zero consequence and it’s horrifying. Where does it end.
They're liberal talking points. Most of my the people from my high-school use the whataboutism and whatifism arguments and they're really annoying.
God killed babies in the Bible. I really don't know how you base your argument off of religion.
Talk about how abortion is murder, murder is wrong, blah blah, but I don't see how there's an actual basis for the "pro life" movement in the Bible. The Christian that literally demanded blood sacrifice for atonement. I think blood and death are kinda his thing
It ends with conservatism. Hard lined conservatism by the worlds standards. Women inside homes, tje whole 9. Otherwise it will just jeep degenerating.
They always go to “oh, if I have this kid my life will be ruined.” Like, nobody’s asking you to keep the kid after birth we’re just asking you to keep it alive until birth so somebody that wants it can have it. Your life may be disrupted for 9-10 months but it’s by no means ruined. Always with the drama.
It’s also extremely frustrating how they always conflate the adoption system with the foster system. They quite literally do not know what they’re arguing for.
we live in the most self-absorbed, selfish, self-willed, superficial, shallow, hypocritical, arrogant and proud know-it-all generation ever!
She was using more brain cells earing the kettle corn than to reason.
The fact that she’s not smart enough to stop stuffing her face tells a lot!
This was really irritating. This is manners 101, like not picking your nose at the dinner table stuff
It's probably emotional eating.
@@RS54321definitely comfort eating. She's probably had an abortion.
Always see leftists obnoxiously eating while talking all the time. She was even shoving food in her fat mouth in the middle of a sentence.
She is a child, so some love and hope she'll stop being a feminist and accept equality for all humans
The manifold blindness, contradictions, and hypocrisy Never cease to amaze me!
Her circular reasoning prevents her from thinking.
I'm not entirely sure what she was getting at the entire time. It's like she started an idea but then flat tired every time on her own. Maybe just a hard time forming her thoughts in sentences because she hasn't really thought about it.
She was just snacking and reciting Kamala Harris poetry
Weed does that to you.
@@warrenb8228 I’d say Liberalism does that to you but weed obviously doesn’t help 😂
Basically, like most of them, she had to get the last word in every time.
Because she’s just a kid…and she doesn’t know it.
She just keeps trying to find a way for it to be OK to sleep around and have sex with whoever you want and not be responsible for the consequence of those actions.
Why not just teach our children people that if you’re going to sleep with someone or a bunch of people there’s a chance that you will end up pregnant and when that happens you become a parent! So if you’re not already to become a parent and you’re not in a committed relationship don’t just going around whoring it up!
It’s pretty simple
We know that having sex can lead to pregnancy. It's called people playing dumb, which women and the fk bois that create single mothers do all the time.
She keeps answering in favor of his argument, yet won’t concede…
The greatest trick the devil pulled was to convince the world he doesn’t exist.
She just wanted to win something in her confrontation with you. Anything. You swatted her away beautifully.
It's astounding that people consider having children as "ruining" their lives. My son is a blessing to my wife and I. As well, the contempt with which people refer to the "grapist baby" that would be inside of them is sad. That baby would be half of them, as well as the criminal.
Also, as a someone who was conceived in this horrible way, I am not my birthfather, and I thank God my birthmother did not commit murder to end my unwanted life. She carried me full term and put me up for adoption and I love my life.
I don't know why people always use the argument of "my life was great"
There are plenty of people who have ended their lives for your exact situation or for plenty of other situations, whether they were born into poverty, borny into abuse, born with parents who are drug addicts, are put through hell. Saying "my life is great" will never be a good argument.
The hypothetical of something does not make it so. You can't just say well because it could have happened it did, that's just simply not how it works. The cells forming in your body cannot perceive life, they don't have the ability to feel pain, they don't have the ability to want or not want something.
Also what would you say to a child that was born into poverty, violence, or abuse saying "I wish I was never born" would you just say to them... "well you should be grateful you at least got the chance!"
This whole situation also begs the question.. are you all vegan as well? because if not, then you'd all be incredibly hypocritical.
@@Human-Being-Human to anyone going through a hard time, I urge them, and/or you, to keep living. I was clinically depressed for over a decade, cycled through almost a dozen different med, hospitalized for suicide attempt. It was more of a cry for help, as I could never go through with a serious attempt, even though I thought about it every day for years.
I struggled with drug abuse for almost as long as I struggled with depression. I hated living for most of my life and by the time I was 14 I couldn't see myself living past high school, or past the following year once I was out of school.
I could never bring myself to end my life, and although I was not religious during that time, I hoped that my pain would lead to some good.
Reading the Bible and learning about Jesus changed my life. I urge anyone who is suffering to read the Bible, seeking to know Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ saved my life and it is not to late for anyone who is still alive right now.
Goodness, justice, love, and truth exist, even if we never see it for ourselves, and this gives me great hope. God is real. God is good. God is worthy of worship and praise.
@@jasons5904 I have no interest in the Bible or god/your religion but thank you for the sentiment.
@@Human-Being-Human are you going through a rough time in your life?
@@jasons5904 not sure why you're asking but no.
“If my moms promiscuous, and she doesn’t know who the father is, how do we mandatorily get the man to help her” when did people in this country lose self responsibility and consequences
These people have not thought anything through but they have an opinion on it.
I used to think that abortion was normal when I was a young man. I am now a 33 year old man with 2 children who found Christ 3 years ago. I feel sorry for these young people, some of them will realise when they are older and wiser that the indoctrination of societal norms has tricked them into to doing something that the English language does not have words to describe how tragic it truly is.
I used to be pro-life until I went through grad school in biology for 10 years. I slowly abandoned my faith and have now a deeper understanding of how complex life is and am able to draw lines more discretely than before and I realize now why most biologists support abortion even tho the fetus is a "life". Life is complex, we shouldn't be letting simplicity and emotion get in the way of objective science. I'm glad you found God, and you don't need to like abortion but PLEASE PLEASE don't vote to take away those rights away from other people.
@@fallen4life080 3 years ago i was an alcoholic atheist. I began looking into life and all religions. I was into buddhism for a while, meditating and all that, until I had some demonic experiences. After this I said a prayer asking God what is the purpose of our lives and why are we here and if he can prove to me that Jesus Christ is his son I will follow him, I had never been to a church or anything like that, I still do not go to church. I did not expect him to answer, but he did. God lead me to began to study secret societies, history, prominent figures in history, the world religions, schoolings systems and to even study the bible in Hebrew and Greek. There are many beautiful hidden things to be found in the bible that prove that the God of the bible is the true God. There are also many things in nature that prove Gods existence, like dna, the Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio etc. All man made religions are connected through the secret societies, symbolism, etymology of wording and serpent worship. They are esoteric in their teachings. Your schooling systems are owned by Jesuits and are based off of the 7 sacred sciences of kabbalah and masonry, so I wouldn’t believe anything that you were taught in school as it is all to get you to think a certain way. The world is being moved in the direction of evil being called good and good being called evil. It is painfully obvious to those who can see it. Abortion is child sacrifice for the modern age and has been set up that way on purpose. I agree life is complex. It is so complex that in my humble opinion, through my study and research that only the true creator God YHWH of the bible has the right to determine whether abortion is good or not. You are going off of your life experience of 10 years of what man’s science has indoctrinated you into believing. It is science falsely so called and the wisdom of man, which is foolishness to God. I am going off of 28 years of indoctrination, 2 years of studying the world and 3 years of walking with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. There is a difference between going to church, being religious and knowing God. You have to want to know him.
I thank you for your reply, I will pray that God opens your eyes to the truth.
@@fallen4life080 Can you go into specific details as to how your grad school biology led you to support abortion?
Child sacrifice. There’s the words!
@@golf869 Not even close. Your child is much more valuable than a physiologically unviable fetus before 19 weeks. There's a reason most doctors, biologists, physicians, etc support abortion care until 19 weeks even tho we know human life begins at conception.
She has potential to be a champion dodgball player with the way she dodges accountability. Someone throw a wrench at her see if she can dodge that because if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball lol
Hahaha, great quote.
14 and already a fully-fledged accountability dodger!
I guess THEY are born that way👀
Don't you love it when you talk to someone for every point you make, they come up with an anecdotal story as to why you're wrong? "I was on life support twice", "I actually don't like being alive", and so on, and so on.
She’s acting like all instincts we have are good to us because we want to do them. But she just keeps putting trash arguments on top of trash arguments, and then when we try to point something out that they have said the act like they haven’t said it, 🤦🏽♀️🙏 they need prayer.
Good grief, what has happened to humanity and morality
"I've been on life support twice", I sincerely doubt that. This is a common tactic for pearl clutching fans to try to gain points through sympathy since her what-abouts are falling flat. Since her "I don't like living" stance didn't get any traction, she had to up the ante.
With how heavy shes breathing from just eating....she probably was on some kind of medical device
Sadly, I would not be surprised. I have worked with for too many teens who have attempted to take their life and have been on life support as a result. I'm not saying she isn't lying to garner sympathy, I'm just saying that it is not as uncommon as one might think.
the "I don't like living" comment is very telling.
@@solomonheppnerwhy would she make that up? It’s not unheard of.
‘Quick make myself a victim to take part in this conversation’😂😂😂
“ have you adopted any kids?”
The real question is: what was that tasty snack she had?
😂😂she really tried to claim the “train station” from Yellowstone was real and didn’t even realize Montana and Nevada don’t border each other 😂😂
The fact that the kid said “it’s none of your business” shows she didn’t understand anything he said 😖
Shes going to such lengths to not accept her opinions aren't logically consistent
God bless you. You have so much patience. Thank you for what you do!♥️
These are the same people who demanded everyone be jabbed to “save lives”. Imagine living with this constant contradiction in your head?
No joke, she tried all of them
Yes, she missed the argument for the only reason for abortion in the bible, Numbers 5:11-31
@@jamesc5144Numbers 5 isn't an abortion, it's a punishment for the mother's sin.
You're right 👍
Any crime is legal in this special area of Arizona ? She needs to stop eating lead paint chips!
So that’s what was in her feed bag!
She said it was in Nevada but she’s an idiot. That’s not a thing here in Nevada. She is talking about the “zone of death” in the Idaho section of Yellowstone where no one lives and is run by wyoming. Because no one lives there, there is no one to be on the jury and therefor the person goes free. It’s a bad argument
@@nickeyharry3605 🤣🤣
Is it okay for father's to murder their children?
Oh yes actually, on Mars no Earth nation has any jurisdiction so if a father flew himself and his kids to Mars he could kill them without consequence!
not to mention: if that is her rationale for men being able to kill their kids, than can we outlaw abortion everywhere else except this special area of Arizona??? Fair?
She's looking for a "gotcha moment"and she's losing.
God bless your tenacity in talking with these people. Their refusal to grasp the facts and change their views accordingly is exhausting.
At least she stayed and had a convo and didn't just scream and walk away.
"I dont want to be alive"
And yet... you're still here... talking...
A child should always be considered a blessing, never a burden. 🇺🇸
The amount of Lies somebody will tell themselves to justify their actions so that they are not considered a bad person is the most insane thing to me
Silence is such an under utilized weapon, if you let these people talk they will give away the plot and really exemplify the stupidity in theyre arguments
Yeah he talks toooo much
She straight up has to lie in the end about fathers being able to kill their children......and she conveniently circumvents the fact that men are held legally responsible for paying child support. Women can give up kids without taking any responsibility. She is trying so hard to be a victim She has to lie to comfort herself.
And that's how feminism works. It's female authoritarianism. It's kommunism with a skirt. Rules for the, not for me.
It's simple, if you can't afford the consequences then keep your legs closed
Like you practice abstinence... hypocrite... actually it's not abstinence, it's that no one wants to have sex with you Ahahaha
It’s almost amazing that these people can totally disregard every valid point made against their broken argument but they’re somehow able to keep themselves delusional enough to keep going
birth control is terrible for women. a teenage girl going through puberty being put on a pill that messes w her natural menstrual cycle, her mind, and emotions is not okay. the culture around birth control is one of the main reasons young ppl don’t see sex as sacred and get surprised when they end up pregnant. a 14 year old girl should not be chemically altering her physiology in this way. this should not be the norm. young girls don’t even get to understand their bodies. doctors recommend birth control to treat an ailment in young woman’s body, or after having a baby, but birth control does more damage than good in these situations. birth control and abortion compliment each other imo.
Professional victim
All modern American women are professional victims and queens of deflection.
Equating murdering your own child with getting a tattoo is *wild*
How long can someone eat a bag of air? Your composure throughout this was incredible.
The 4D chest you play with these peoples "logic" is hilarious to me 😂😂.... its check mate from the beginning.. but its pure gold when you literally repeat verbatim what they just "argued" and they still dont hear or see the real logic of what they just said with their own mouths😂.. keep up these videos thank you sir 🙏 your a master of your craft
Chess
@@skilledrex294"Grammer police "
@@24kbryant24warranted grammar police😂
@@jennag3226 you took the bait lol
@@24kbryant24 Ok😂
They're never trying to convince us, they're trying to convince themselves.
Why would anyone agree to your right to choose after you've already made the wrong choice by getting pregnant ?
They assume a moral high ground that they themselves are not willing to defend. But they are happy to snipe you from it. Not discerning that they are self deceivers afraid to gaze on the naked depravity of their actual belief.
I love and admire your ability to speak to people with truth and kindness.
this girl tried to pretend she's all willing to have a discussion and then tried to score some petty cheapshot comment while walking away and just made her sound like a worse person than I had already confirmed she was
Yea that 50 miles of Nevada thing was so stupid.
How can having a kid "ruin" your life. There are so many options, it is like these young people forget that a child can be given for adoption.
I love how he handles himself
4:40 She lost us all the moment she mentioned the death penalty. She even stated that she hates her life. She's seriously going to turn her own daughter into a psychopathic and unhinged woman who has no soul. That's just depressing. That woman will NEVER talk to her own daughter about self defense.