The SECRET Diet Injections Keeping Celebs Slim
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- American journalist Vanessa Griogoriadis did some research on something we might’ve all noticed - famous people are getting skinnier than before. Vanessa did some investigation on a fat reducing product developed by a danish company, and it’s pretty controversial. We talk about everyone from Rebel Wilson to Kim Kardashian. #celebrities #kimkardashian #weightloss
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Chapters:
00:00 Celebrities are starting to look more like this
05:00 “Skinny pills" are differentiating us more and more from celebrities
11:20 How do these weight loss products work
13:19 Exercising vs Injections for getting in shape
14:56 The hypocrisy of these products
19:00 “Stanning” on celebrities
21:35 Conclusions after 3 days with Kim Kardashian
26:28 Celebrities are not human
29:40 Other physical aspects that are being artificially manipulated
32:15 Are there any actual health benefits to these products?
33:46 The bad side of this product being popular
40:40 What really is this drug?
45:33 The Satanic Panic
48:33 The power of social contagion
54:11 Gender ideology in the public education system
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Edited by: Gonzalo Kaplanski - Розваги
One thing I have never heard was anyone accused Kim Kardashian of being authentic😂
Who has been looking at the Kardashians and thinking they were "natural"?
No one ever!
Trans.
Or authentic in any way whatsoever?? 😂
it's not about being authentic, it's about looking different than you and shaming you for how you look because you're not famous. over a lifetime that is internalized and increases personal shame about our own bodies, even tho logically we know Kim is not naturally aging
@@Scootfairy agree with your comment but the journalist mentioned on the podcast something about how people feel Kim is authentic, I actually laughed out loud because I think most people see her as the opposite.
My elderly neighbour used this drug for diabetes and lost a huge amount of weight without trying. She now looks absolutely fantastic and due to the massive weight loss , she is no longer diabetic and she has a new lease on life. It really changed her life, but she was using it for diabetes and she was totally shocked at the weight loss.
She’s no longer diabetic? You mean she has controlled diabetes type 2?
I’m sure she wasn’t shocked at the weight loss. Unless she was living under a rock.
@ALT-vz3jn I can assure you she was shocked. She is an elderly lady with no social media and doesn't watch the news so if that is what you call under a rock.
EXACTLY
Once a diabetic always diabetic! Just controlled. I thought the same a long time ago that I wasn't diabetic anymore my A1C was perfect, but I wasn't checking my glucose everyday. I found out a good a1c really doesn't always mean that your diabetes is controlled because if you are having days where your glucose is in the 50's and other days where it's running 300 when the ac is taken it averages out, but is 51 really a controlled glucose or 300 NO. If you aren't testing your glucose everyday you really don't know if your diabetes is controlled. My regular doctor said my diabetes was controlled. I went to a specialist and he said test your glucose. I did especially when I didn't feel well and found I was going into hypoglycemic shock on the days that I didn't feel well and other days I was close to 300 some days were regular, but my diabetes definitely wasn't under control.
Megan Markle never carried Harry’s kids!
My sister (now 78) was put on a drug trial 4 years ago for type 2.
She injects herself every week. Because it’s a trial she doesn’t have to pay for it.
She’s lost 50kg and most of her muscle mass.
She’s mentally unwell, and is living on cream cakes, milkshakes with whipped cream on top, KFC etc.
No nutritional food.
She’s loving it because she keeps losing weight.
As her unofficial carer, I’ve been trying to have it stopped, but the specialist who put her on it has given her permission to stay on it.
She’s become toxic towards me for daring to meddle in her life.
This isn’t going to end well.
Oh my gosh. I'm sorry to hear that. That sounds horrible.
Well done for being there for her.
Hopefully she might change course.
My deceased friend took trulicity a weekly injectable her a1c was well within reasonable for type 2 after several months the dr increased the dose bc it was covered by ins. That injectable aggravated a bowel issue. She remained very heavy and ate whatever she wanted. I guess Dr's don't teach dietary restrictions.
Personally I'm type 2 that came with an autoimmune condition. Some days I can regulate better than others which is an advantage with a sliding scale for insulin based on glucose now and intended carb intake. Rarely do I crash.
Surely there must be some looming long term health dangers like muscle wastage?
Many side effects, from stomach cramps and pain, nausea and stomach paralysis. I wonder what it does to your pancreas? I need to lose weight, being borderline DM type2, but I am scared to death of these drugs, since friends who are on these drugs complain about how awful they feel, and frankly look, but one friend went back to regular insulin, even though Ozempic had gotten her AIC under control.
All I can say is the people that are getting Ozempic for weight loss really upsets me. I'm diabetic and constantly worried if I'm going to get my next prescription in time for the next dose that I need along with a lot of other diabetics.
Not everyone gets Ozempic. Some of us are prescribed other injections but I appreciate your upset for sure.
@@UTRipleyxoxoIf they are also DIABETIC drugs, then you're still depleting the supply. It's pathetic that people don't understand that folks tend to use the #1 BRAND NAME when referring to something.
But for the record, they mean ALL THE DAAAM DIABETIC INFECTIONS!!!
When they say there's a SHORTAGE, they're not freaking out for their LIVES over a brand name. Wake up!
Now when my insulin is on back order and I have to call many pharmacies looking I'm told it's a government cutback in production. What? it's the 🇺🇸 plus they refer to the use of weight loss injections which were made for diabetics. 20# a week weight loss, hanging saging skin. They can't eat but tiny bites. Regular insulin products do not cause weight loss.
What exactly does Ozempic do? Does it force people to throw up or something?
@@ct6852 various possible side effects but designed to reduce glucose which will lower a1c tested in 3 month intervals usually by reducing the appetite to near nothing. Stop ozympic weight will return.
Andrew, I hate to tell you this but my 9 yr old grandson that is homeschooled, highly monitored online, and watches no TV recently asked if the reason that the neighbor who has dropped a ton of weight quickly was on Ozempic. He heard someone on YT talking about it. It's not a secret anywhere in America. :D
Not true that a women can’t lose 4 dress sizes at 40. I went from size 12-13 down to size 6 doing intermittent fasting and I was 58. Keeping the weight off almost 3 years so far. Totally healthy route and effective.
What exactly did you do???
@@katsmith8263 I started by fasting 16 hours per day. I suggest Gin Stephens book Fast Feast Repeat and watching Dr Jason Fung on UA-cam. That’s where I learned everything.
Genetics helps too.
She said: "intermittent fasting", i.e. she starved herself at least two days a week, so "good bye fat, hello osteoporosis".@@katsmith8263
I got sick and kind of had to do this and I lost that much as well, but I was in my 30s.
I remember when having slender hips and butt AND a small waist was "perfection". Imagine all the average women, making their butts huge, in whatever (irreversible) way, only to find out now, oops, we're going back to skinny. 😱
Ikr
Thank goodness skinny is back. I cringed with the big butt thing.
They should stop reading all the stuff about amazing diets, and just cut back, walk as much as you can, let your breath on it's own, cut back on sugar, which is so dangerous, and enjoy life!! There to many quacks out there who just want to make a buck (or a million) and they don't care a bit about your health or how much you weigh!!
I think they were warned that would happen.
Yeah, I believe I was born at the wrong time. My big lips, dense eye brows and childbearing hips made me wear no lipstick, plucking my eyebrows and getting teased for my butt in my younger years.
I've followed plastic surgeons online & they have noted that the ozempic users are starting to really age. We've seen this with people removing buccal fat, I've seen super models ( Gigi Hadid) who are really aging themselves.
Ozempic face is what they are calling it.
@@debralaw4401 Yes, that is what I heard also. I saw a photo of Gigi Hadid, I seriously thought she looked somewhere btw 38-42.
Because we lose fat from our face as we age. So stupidly removing it while you’re young makes you look older than you are.
They are not aging! Chubby cheeks just don't sag! When you loose the fat things start going south. Have you never seen anyone have gastric bypass do the same thing?
@@cleverkittn Yes, the aging is happening at a much earlier age than before. I watch a lot of the YT "influencers" on their skin care channels & sometimes really surprised at how young they are, I often think they are 10-15 years older than they are...
Part of it is also the gym culture, many women get their body fat % too low and as they age, their face look very weathered. I call it the "hungry face" syndrome of mature women. While their physique is toned, their face looks hungry. Sometimes it's better to carry an extra 5 pounds, to fill out the facial fat pads.
I heard an interview a couple of days ago that because Ozempic slows your digestion you can end up with a lot of elimination problems which can be dangerous over the long tern.
That applies only to people that have a co-morbidity, for example a previous gastric sleeve surgery. At first I had a lot of constipation but as my body got used to the medication things went back to normal. This is most people’s experience with GLP-1 drugs. You only hear from those who have had bad experiences.
I lost about 80 pounds the year before last, at 44 just by changing my diet. Granted, I did gain a lot during COVID but I am smaller now than I was in high school
That’s wonderful. I applaud you👏. Enjoy the accomplishment.
Yeah, I found this comment of her, that you can't loose weight naturally past 40 very unprofessional. Plenty of people lose weight after 40 due to all sorts of reasons.
@@rahelkamber4839 I think it's weird when any professional speaks in absolutes (except for when it's referring to death or something that's a TRUE absolute!)
That comment definitely struck me as odd though!
@@LilyGazou Thank you! I'm waiting for the skin on my stomach to tighten up now! I lost the weight so fast my stomach looks like a sad stingray 🤣
It has provided me too many hours of comic relief! If ever I'm brave enough, I will postx a video of the sad stingray VS the surprised stingray! (I have 2 freckles that look like eyes and when the skin is tight, my belly button looks like a surprised face 😲 but when they skin hangs, it looks like a really sad face ☹️) 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Women can loose weight in their mid and older life, I lost 50 lbs naturally at age 59. Have kept it off for 5 years
Andrew you gotta calm down. You’re a good looking guy. You look like a mix between young Al Pacino and young Paul McCartney
He's so hot.
She did get slimmer but she didn’t go down ‘4-5’ dress sizes, that’s a wild exaggeration. Rebel Wilson lost 4-5 dress sizes.
Exactly. She trained hard.
I've seen her in-person. I think she went down 3 sizes.
I'm not wealthy by any means but I'm still on Wegovy for weight loss due to my obesity. Best thing that's every happened to me!!
Chronic obesity is a disease.
Finally there's help for us.
Don't knock it.
And you will be avoiding certain health risks as you get older too which means you're costing the health service less.
Yes exactly. All these T2 WHINGERS who happen to also be using it to lose weight. Bunch of hypocrites. Good on you and congratulations for your weight loss!! 🎊 🎉😅
I don't think using it for obesity is the issue. I think using it to lose 15 to 20 lbs is the issue. My friend did this rather than changing diet and exercising for a high school reunion.
It took me 3 gps and a year to get hrt for menopause. It saved my life. These drugs should be there for anyone that needs them. If all men's balls shrivelled at 50 the drugs to keep them juicy would be cheap and over the counter
You are different they are talking about people who are not that overweight to start with I truly wish you all the best because obesity brings a lot of diseases with it which hopefully now you can control xx
The side effects of this drug is what I am waiting for. I like how VERY OPEN Sharon Osbourn is when she says... I took Ozempic -- lost all this weight and now she says she can't gain it back because she is too gaunt
Be happy with a healthy body, no matter what shape & size.💛 love from the chronically ill & disabled. 🙏
I’m glad you guys are talking about the impact this is having on diabetic patients. I’m a type 1 diabetic and this drug was a game changer for us. I don’t know as much about its efficacy for type 2, but I cannot tell you how many type 1’s have been able to take their lives back, stop the crazy highs and the daily rollercoaster of balancing food, stress, activity, and injections to have some semblance of normalcy. Now my pharmacy often can’t get it as the number of vanity scripts grow. And don’t get it twisted - many of these very wealthy people work with cabana physicians who will write the script and get it paid for on their insurances’ dime, as well, whether they need it or not. Wouldn’t be the first drug shortage caused by the rich, and I’m sure it won’t be the last.
Hopefully the drug companies will ramp up supply to meet demand - they have a strong profit motive to do so.
Excellent comment
OZEMPIC IS NOT FOR T1 DIABETICS.
And that's why you (I don't mean you personally of course, you might even have as far as I know, I mean all Americans who are not 1%ers) should have voted for Bernie Sanders.
@@siracastori01 we really to normalise using "one" again. God knows why we stopped using it. Germans still use it.
My pharmacy here in USA won’t sell it to non diabetics.
Same here in Australia
Loved doing this one with Vanessa!
This infuriates me!! My daughter has diabetes. In the past 18 months we had 3 cases where we couldn't get her insulin and had to go to 4 different pharmacies to find one that had it in stock. It was a Saturday night, we didn't get the insulin until Sunday Afternoon. Not only was it horrible for us but her endocrinologist as well, but that Doctor was wonderful. We worked together to ensure my daughter didn't end up in DKA.
Unless you or your child ever had to hunt down medication to live (not lose weight but live) you can not possibly understand why this is so selfish and wrong!!! Your weight-loss is not more important than a life!!!
Diabetes is a disease that says "whether you eat or not, you will die if you do not take medication" and people who hate themselves so much they'd steal that treatment to control impulsive behavior vs let the diabetics have it to live make me sick! The FDA allowing this is also sick but hey at least we'll have thiner people in the world.
I’m 46 and I’ve just lost my slim figure and started to gain weight on my tummy. It’s infuriating, but I will work at it and I won’t be injecting myself with diabetes pens!
Walking every day 👍
In my family everybody has weight on the tummy, and it is considered normal and a sign of good health. People who are very slim have often problems with their nerves. Fat protects you against stress and balances the hormones, which is very important for women.
Ok so what
It happens, but if you exercise and work at it, you will look and feel better. It’s your 2nd puberty!
Good on you
What a delight Vanessa is!! This was interesting. You ,too, Andrew, are always genuine and real(:
I think it sounds really unhealthy. If something makes you sick it is unlikely to be good for you. I will keep working out and eating healthy and being satisfied with what my body is. Do I wish I was skinnier? Yes but I am not willing to make myself sick or risk internal injury. Being skinny and sick or dying early is not worth it.
there is no 'good medication'. it might be 'good' for one thing while it's damaging 10 others.
also, it should be cleat to everyone by now that our 'doctors' and pharmaceutical industry do not want us healthy nor alive.
A diabetic friend has been on Ozempic for a while, now. She's experienced little or no weight loss, even with exercise. So, it ain't necessarily a magic bullet.
When your not diabetic it is a game changer for weight loss.
she's diabetic of course she hasn't lost much weight
It is not as effective for weight loss in people who actually have diabetes.
She could be a non-responder - in the studies they found that about 12% of people are non-responders to the drug.
I have T2 and Hashimotos disease (thyroid) before I could never lose weight at all as my metabolism was so messed up. With Mounjaro (another type of GLP-1 drug) I lose about a pound a week on a 1200-calorie a day diet. I’ve lost 21lbs so far, 15 left to go. It’s slow and steady, nothing like the media writes about.
The biggest issue for me is that if celebrities are taking up necessary drugs for the unwell THAT creates a really horrible divide of privilege.
Venessa is brilliant with an easy shine that makes me feel kinda cozy as a human. A terrific quality in an interview journalist. A really good chat Andrew. As ever.
This was a fascinating discussion. I have just subscribed to Vanessa Griogoriadis' podcast, "Infamous".
Ozempic was developed by Novo Nordisk in 2012 and approved by the FDA (in the U.S.) in 2017. I would guess the drug has been in distribution, at least for the diabetic population in the U.S. for 5+ years. I am guessing somewhere online there is data on medically observed side effects, however not sure that 1/2 decade of observation is enough to release to the general population for off-label use. However, I am not shocked that people with the means to buy this drug, are buying this drug for specifically for weight loss. Nice of celebrities to be the beta testers on weight loss for the rest of us.😉
Really enjoyed this episode, very interesting. Its really sad these days that most things are down to how you look and not who you are. Please have Vanessa G on regularly.
I take Ozempic for insulin resistance... and I am having a hard time getting Ozempic due to a world wide shortage
I just nurtured myself out of the pre-diabetes stage. It was rough. I can only imagine the fear actual diabetics have right now with the crisis this is causing. 😔
My sister in law is having to try a new medication as she cant get her insulin now
@jeanmacdonald8075 That's how my doctor scared me into changing my lifestyle. As I sat there picturing myself on insulin... thinking it can't be that bad... he informed me of the shortage and the fact that it's gonna drive the costs up so high that only the rich will have access someday... scared me straight into healthy living IMMEDIATELY.
Imagine a doctor saying that. 😳 And he was PISSED about it.
@@jeanmacdonald8075 Honestly have rx in 2 pharmacies. I have tried other meds and landed in the emergency room. I do watch what I eat carefully and tge quantity. Have tried years ago Victoza still needed Insulin but less lost 25 pounds in 5 months was so anxious and had terrible stomach pain. Is it worth that ? I took Tresiba contraindicated for persons w bronchial issues I had to receive IV steroids to help me breathe.
@SpiceyKy Wow. Having to rely on meds that can suddenly skyrocket in price and also suddenly become unavailable (or hard to locate as pharmacies tell you they are low on inventory) ... I wish you well with your health via healthy eating, exercise or whatever this Doctor recommends that "scared you straight". He sounds very honest. At least this way, your life won't revolve around and be tied to pharmacies, shortages and worry. 🙏
@@jeanmacdonald8075 This sounds downright scary. And very wrong. 🙏
And here is a problem with this society. VANITY-
As a diabetic the miss-use of this drug has caused a massive shortage for those who really need it to manage a chronic illness. A honest doctor should only prescribe medication for what it has been approved for. Here in Australia there is such a shortage of supply for diabetics. The mass use of this injection for weight loss has forced big pharma to build more warehouses to catch up with the demand
I really enjoy watching and listening to your guest today, Miss Vanessa. I love the information that she provides for us in your channel. The last time I saw her was when your interview was about Nutmeg Harkle. It was like getting an inside information about that nasty grifter.
I’m a type 2 diabetic on ozempic. I’ve been diabetic for 12 years. Ozempic is the only way I can control my A1C. It irritates me to no end that people are using it solely for weight loss to the point that diabetics are suffering the shortage worse than anyone. Furthermore it upsets me a great deal that I get double shamed for being a diabetic and being on ozempic. To those who do shame me, my middle finger is up and ready to go 😂
No one should suffer with a disease that's reversible. There's a wealth of information all over the internet on how to reverse type 2 diabetes. Your doctor never told you? Well of course not...they've got a paying patient for life (however long that is). Take control and stop being a prisoner of this money grubbing medical system. Dr. Jason Fung is a good place to start if you although there's a lot of other reputable people out there to guide you. Best of luck!
Is it true as some say that you have to be on it for life once you start
@@petersmith2522 depends on what your body can handle all I can say is possibly indefinitely unless you develop a condition that prevents you from taking it further
@@JoJoGranum i would never have it myself i prefer to be bigger as a man but im asking more incase any of my family are offered it in the future ive seen videos saying once you start you have to be on it for life no going back
@@JoJoGranum Pharma's goal is to get as many people on as many drugs -for life- as they possibly can. Don't expect your doctor to help you. Pharma practically owns medical schools and are training an army of prescription writers. Most doctors don't know anything about how to achieve true health and even if they did it would go against their own best interests. Bucking the system isn't good for their career or livelihood.
Very interesting and enlightening episode i really enjoyed listening to Andrew and his quest. Thank you. ❤
I once met Gwenny (in daylight) and looked straight at her forehead… Stress. I also went to the 1st ever Goop event in LA, where they were doing a live demo of a thread lift - I was like wtf how is that in line with h the brand?! Live and Let Live, but don’t tell people lies that it’s all natural, BUT that’s how PR has always worked innit! It’s almost like Kim brought a photo of Pete Burns’ face to the surgeon when you compare pics.
Ozempic hasn’t been a secret for many months. Past 45-50 and after menopause, it’s very difficult for most of us women to get weight off. The people that say we should have to suffer to lose it rather than take a drug-I know many people who try to lose weight, but they’d have to either work out 3 hours a day or eat so little they’d starve. Due to health conditions and having to work for a living, and not liking to starve, most of us can’t do those things. I’d try Ozempic if I could afford it without insurance, but it’s like $1000/month since I’m fluffy but not diabetic.
Have you researched what a healthy diet is? Joe Rogan (Spotify) has great podcast episodes on it with a scientist. If you switch to a healthy diet, it will make your body healthy long-term. No need for calory-counting, just healthy food. What's more important than weight loss for health is bodybuilding. When you have strong muscles and a healthy diet, you will be healthy and age well.
Bless this woman for explaining ‘satanic panic’ to the younger folks who weren’t alive then. Having grown up in 80’s that crap was baked into society for 6 or 7 years. It was awful!
Rebecca? How old do you think Vanessa is??? lol! You grew up in the 80s and you're "younger"...ok. Vanessa has the face of an angel, the mind full of wisdom and the spirit of a self guided mother...as it should be!
@@swissuz who is Vanessa? I made a comment on a video two weeks ago. I don’t even remember doing it
This also happens with ADHD stimulant meds and diet culture. I have ADHD and couldn't get my own meds due to shortages because the Katrashians hate real healthcare. 🙃
I’m taking stimulants for ADD. I have absolutely no appetite and people comment that I’m too thin. But I feel great and I am very athletic. I consume about 1600 calories a day but the meds speed up my metabolism. This could be what some celebrities are doing. it works quite well. If I were to stop taking the meds, I would probably gain 10 to 20 pounds fairly quickly.
I just watched an Australian 60 min show about an Australian woman who died as a result of using Ozempic . Idk , i guess like every drug , if abused its going to cause problems
I am so sick of celebrities getting whatever drug they desire or think they need . Just pissed about it because when my son was killed on his bicycle from a drunk driver that left the seen. I asked my Dr. For help during this time with some Valium, he said I didn’t need anything, just bereavement counseling 😢. What a terrible Dr .
How sad RIP your Son.
I'm sorry to hear your loss, and that sounds like a really bad Dr, did you try anybody else? Some people are qualified to be GPs but lack the essential people skills. ☹️
An herbalist is way more helpful. Herbal teas to calm the nerves, help you sleep, curb appetite, lessen pain. With no bad side affects.
That wasn’t a terrible doctor. As someone who did have Valium, life was worse once I was off it and I still had to process all my emotions.
What an idiot, that doctor!!! I had to go on Wellbutrin after I lost my daughter. (I had a previous prescription for Xanax). I couldn’t get out of bed for six months until I took Wellbutrin. I’m so sorry for your loss
Intermittent fasting is easy for many. Science supports its efficacy.
Great conversation 💯
Hi Andrew ♥
This is such an interesting topic.
Vanessa is great.
Keep these coming please Andrew ♥ thank you xxx 💝
If you watch sixty minutes in Australia, people are now dying of taking Ozempic. It is very sad, and people need to be told. ❤
Very good, informative video. Thank you.
You two had a great conversation.🎉
I think there's two categories of people who could be using Ozempic "for weight loss." If they're actually overweight and struggling to lose it, my understanding is that even 10+ pounds could start to put you into type two diabetes so while it might be frustrating for people who've been on it for a long time to get some, it doesn't mean that it's not legit for someone to use it for weight loss if it's really impacting their health. At the same time if someone is using it just to try to lose vanity weight instead of diet and exercise, yeah, that's lousy.
I get so annoyed when people are always saying "diets don't work" of course they do! Almost all diets work! There is no diet in the world however, which will make you magically stay skinny if you go back to binge eating. If what people mean is diets don't solve all your emotional problems which cause you to want to binge eat, then yes, that is true. An eating plan won't cure your psychological problems. Shocker.
Yeah she’s talking out her arse 😑🤦🏻♀️
Yeah diets do work. I'm proof of that, as I was 300lbs and lost 150lbs and kept it off. But it was calorie counting and exercise.
If you have an ED you will need therapy to under why and what you do and how to combat it.
The weight loss companies want you to fail, as otherwise you don't come back.
Unfortunately they don’t. I’ve been thin my whole life and recently gained 27# and tried for months to fight it. I ran to the Dr when nothing I was doing helped. Turns out I am unable to properly digest certain foods I had begun eating. Now that I know, I removed them and am losing weight. We are not machines that need X amount of fuel that we burn like a cars MPG. Food is not “energy” it is information that our bodies interpret and use.
Yes, eating less and exercise is the key 🔑
Turning to a healthy diet certainly works. In fact, every human being should eat a healthy diet, because its the only way of staying healthy long-term. None of us should eat sugar for example. We should all return to a more natural diet, the type our body is built for.
My NHS trust (& possibly the whole of NHS) can not provide my diabetic injectable, so I am moving to insulin to manage type 2 diabetes. To be fair, this is where we were going, but it has forced the issue. Obesity is a serious health issue - me included - but it is unsupportive if this is being prescribed to people who are not clinically obese when people can not control diabetes with all its life shortened / changing risks
What is unable to be supplied? Professional curiosty.
It’s not being prescribed to people who aren’t clinically obese.
Damn this was SO GOOD.... especially when you two started talking about social contagions
This was an interesting topic about which I knew very little. Thank you.
My sister is a diabetic too, and started at this medicine by her doctor, and she lost very much weight. She eat quite healthy because of diabetic, but she never knew she will have such a big weight loss. The medicine is from Denmark, and is invented here🇩🇰. People who struggle with overweight in Denmark, can also get them from their doctor, but its very expensive
I have been on this medicin for almost a year - and even though there are side effects, it is simply not true that you cannot eat what you want and like ( and I love everything with cheese hot AND cold) I just get full faster, have cut a meal a day and do not snacks. I lost 16 kilo and it have been a great relief in my live. But the price is a problem for us common people. And what to do and how when you either cannot afford it anymore or otherwise want to stop.
Ozempic has recently been approved by the FDA for weight loss. My issue with weight this is that what happens to the body regarding insulin when a person stops taking it after a long term usage? I’m worried that a person’s ability to properly produce insulin will be impaired due to long time use. I also worry about other organs, or bodily functions might be impaired by long term use of this drug. No one has done a study regarding long term usage with abrupt cut off. Usually, the people that are prescribed Ozempic for diabetes are not going to stop using this drug. Everyone’s always looking for the magic pill to make them skinny. Just remember that everything has a price. What is your body trading off for this injection to help you lose weight.
(Comment written before this video premiered):
GLP1 medications should be used by (in descending priority, according to me 🤷♀️):
1. Diabetics
2. Pre-diabetic obese people
3. Obese people
4. Overweight people
5. People who just want to lose a few pounds
I was in category 2, with high A1C, high glucose, and high BMI. Since starting Saxenda (a cousin of Ozempic, dosed for weight loss vs. diabetes management) and a low dose of a statin:
1. I’m down 40 lbs, which allows me to be more physically active
2. My A1C is down, back within the normal range
3. My 10-year risk of death from a cardiovascular event is less than half of what it was two years ago
With all the supply shortages lately, I haven’t been able to order more Saxenda in several months, and am about to run out. So, from category 3 (with potential for improvement to category 4,) I might soon land back up in category 2 or even cross that line and end up in category 1.
My point is that it’s not as simple as “people wanting to lose weight are preventing diabetics from getting medication.” For many of us, using the medication to lose weight helps prevent us from becoming diabetic in the first place.
I’m hoping you’ll be talking about what it would take to ramp up production of Victoza, Saxenda, Ozempic, Wegovy, etc. 💐
@goosebump801 Congratulations on your success. I am pretty much in the same boat - in terms of needing to control my blood glucose level and lose weight - and have been on Ozempic for a month. I hope that you continue on a good course!
@@carolehenson6180 Thanks! I hope you have success as well.
I’m still officially obese - just much less so, now 💐
Taking drugs is dumb eat healthy and excercise
A lot of celebs have Caesarian births with plastic surgeons on the side to perform tummy tuck after birth. Also, the Pharma firm has reissued the Diabetic shot under a different name for weight loss. It’s expensive and must be given for life because the weight comes back after they stop.
since when have the Kardashians been praised for their authenticity?
Kim K’s brand is authenticity. I missed that one.
I think she means authenticity as in their lives are open and accessible through reality tv and social media. Their brand is to show everything.
I have never had the side effects described in the video except I can no longer eat specifically steak or egg white. What Ozempic has provided for me is near perfect blood sugar control that I've never been able to achieve with insulin alone. However, because these narcissistic rich people are greedily buying this drug for weight loss, diabetics are unable to receive the medication they need to survive and be healthy. My local pharmacy has implemented a policy of providing Ozempic only to people with diabetes.
In Canada there’s been a shortage of Ozempic since fall of 2023 … so it’s hard for Americans to access the drug from there. It’s been suggested that patients go to large stores like a Costco or Walmart who may have to capacity of large supplies.”
I don’t think in 10 years it will be around because the side effects are going to dissuade people.
Thanks Andrew Vanessa is great. You guys have great convos ❤
Give this to the people who need it for their health not folk to lose weight to many folks struggling to get their insulin due to this
The vain does not care!
@@SpiceyKy no and neither do the big drug companies
@@jeanmacdonald8075 Right. They are definitely part of the vain. ❤
it's not insulin
I really enjoy this guest. Explaining the absurdity of celebrity!😂
I had to wait for a back order, longer than I considered safe. I can keep my sugar levels under 140, I don’t need blood pressure medication anymore and the pain from Lupus has eased up. My knees are actually not in pain, first time in 20 years. I couldn’t lose weight the no matter what. It’s saved my dad’s life. Then we have to wait a week for our medication because of skinny people wanting to be skinnier. Very frustrating.
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
In the early and mid 70's, I and all my very young teenage girlfriends used to go to Dr. Peters, "The Diet Doctor" in DC every week and got a shot of something (can't remember what it was called), and man it gave us ENERGY and we lost lots of weight. It's crazy, but my mother suggested this. She sure regretted it a couple years later when I had a psychotic breakdown and started to try to strangle her while I was driving my Fiat Spider with the top down at a stoplight. Everyone saw it! It was kind of akin to that episode in Jacky Brown where De Niro shoots Bridget Fonda in the parking lot. Yep, I told my mother to not say another word, and she went ahead and did it. anyway. Yeah, those were the days. 😂
Oh my. What a bloody nightmare! x
I hated my mom too
Was it amphetamine?
@@jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104 It must have been. I can't believe I can't remember the name of it because I went to him weekly from the age of 15 all the way to 18 when he got shut down. I stopped after that but my mother found another doctor she could get it from. Crazy crazy days, because her dentist used to deal weed and snow on the side, but my parents eschewed the snow. 😂
Probably ephedrine
It is more important to me to be healthy and eat healthy than look a certain way
I agree. I try to stay fit and build muscle. All I care about is being able to run, being very strong and being healthy.
Everything has a backlash,there are always side effects.
I would worry about the long term effects..and also, what happens when you stop taking it? Does the weight come back on?
At 12:40 mark - that’s me having exact same effects naturally my whole life. I’m 43 years old 171cm tall, my weight is still same as in my teens always between 52-56kg, and my body still looks like of a model. I was always attributing my extreme sensitivity to anything ‘not clean’ and ‘not healthy’ -to my exposure to radiation (Chernobyl) as a child, otherwise I have no explanation to this paradox , I can become very ill from ‘junk food’ , or even just normal food but oily, heavy and rich (50% of the times I’d end up vomiting after having salmon for example..)
tap water and air quality in big cities affects drastically on me and my skin, hair .. Yet, in clean environment with clean and very simplistic light food - I’m almost unbeatable in health.
Wow, that's hard what you went through! So glad you were able to help yourself with a healthy diet! Your liver got probably affected as a child and now is still affected.
Maybe KK is using medication. Maybe she isn't. But to suggest a "woman in her 40s" just "doesn't" lose weight is ludicrous. I know. I've done it, and a significant amount of it at that.
I know, that really irked me. Um pardon?! Where do you get your facts from lady?
Perhaps she didn't articulate well. I think she meant that weight loss can be more difficult after 30. Which more studies have shown. I have noticed thus in myself as well compared to my 20s. It is possible but it takes more time and effort.
Good point!
Who on earth believes that the Kardashians are authentjc.. Lol
The "before mirrors" part forced me to google because I was like "I'm pretty sure there's been mirrors in like all of recorded human history, so that's a weird thing to say" and it turns out I was right. I dunno why people like Vanessa feel like they can be lazy and not look into the premises they are putting forward.
She is unprofessional in many ways.
Especially when she said there is no such thing as SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse). Tell that to the many victims, psychologists who have treated them and even Satanists who have admitted there is indeed such going on. Also, there was a filled-in tunnel found under that particular preschool after the building was sold. She needs to research more before such huge claims!
Very interesting guest.
Vanessa is actually wrong that women in their 40's can't lose that amount of weight in a short time. My weight slowly crept up over 10yrs in peri menopause. I am early 50's, I cut back most carbs and ultra processd food and eat mostly fat and protein. I dont count carbs or macros. It's not 'too hard' as she puts it. I lost 60lb and 4 dress sizes in 6 months and have maintained it just fine. I have more energy than I did 10yrs ago.
Her error is in calling it (and treating it as) a diet and then going back to how you ate before. It's a lifestyle change. I'm back in my early 30's/ pre 2nd child weight...smack bang in the middle of BMI Index which i dont agree is nonsense as it's always been a good indicator for me. The whole BMI is rubbish narrative is part of the woke culture nonsense. The only people I hear use that excuse is people who are overweight and addicted to junk food but in denial.
Lambert Adolphe Jacques Quetelet, inventor of the BMI, was a Belgian mathematician who also studied astronomy, statistics and sociology - he was not a physician, nor did he study medicine. The intention was for measuring populations, for the purposes of statistics, not individual health.
The BMI is based on the height & weight of the "average" man based on a sample of White, European men, who Quetelet saw as an "ideal". It doesn't differentiate between muscle mass, bone density & body fat - resulting in most elite athletes being classed as overweight. It also doesn't account for variations in healthy weights & body types between people of various ethnicities, genders & ages. Quetelet's findings inspired Francis Galton - who coined the term eugenics.
Just because it fits well for you, as an individual, does not make it ok, or even accurate. It's great that you feel healthy & well, but you aren't being excluded from access to necessary healthcare because your "BMI" doesn't meet certain requirements, based on a 200 year old, outdated & racist standard of measure that is more harmful than helpful.
**I am healthy, not overweight & not addicted to junk food. Not that anyone can be dismissed or silenced when presenting the above facts.
I'm currently trying intemittant fasting, trying to go 16 hours before eating, it's hard, but it is one way to control the overeating. Plus drinking a bit of vinegar in water before eating is supposed to be good to slow down blood sugar peaks when eating. Too much easy food on offer these days, and it is about self control and that is HARD. Diets do work, it's just they are short lived and therefore the weight loss is short lived.
I’ve noticed a large number of “influencers” look pretty similar in the face as well. Although some are honest enough to point out the fillers and procedures they’ve been through to look the way they do.
That said, I did have a friend who’s had three children who passed away in her 70’s who was 100% natural, however, the trade off was that she had no hips, no boobs & was regularly mistaken for a man.
One cool lady a breath of fresh air and down to earth as well😊
Studies have repeatedly shown that slim people are likened to attractiveness.😮 Attrackive people get better jobs, get preferential treatment....💯 Who wouldn't want THAT life? If you have B.E.D. of other types of issues, it's not as easy as "diet and exercise". I'm pre-diabetic but, if I could afford to get Ozempic, I would gladly get on it.
Re using our Aussie actress, Rebel Wilson, if this woman knew anything, she'd know that Rebel fought with her weight for years. When it was foundout by 'Hollywood' that she was working with professionals wanted her stay significantly obese while her medical team wanted her to slim down, 'Hollywood' wanted her to stay the 'fat comedian'. She was upset about it. It's offensive to use Rebel as your photo. She did actually 'work' at weight.
you still have to "work" at losing with meds as well
@passengershamingparody exactly. If people just relied on Ozempic they'd lose 10kg over 12 months. Anyone whining about Ozempic aren't even up to date with the latest and more effective drugs than Ozempic
This reminds me of the Oxycontin drama which turned out so badly for so many thanks to the Sackler family.
They could be fasting. I’m 53, I lost 60 pounds in ten months doing that, and cutting out most crappy carbs. It is possible to lose weight without assistance. But then again, yeah.., look who we’re talking about.
Not always applicable, I personally know a 50 yo. who went from a size 10, pushing an 11 to wearing a size 6 or 5, that that's at least 4 to 5 sizes. Done by intermittent fasting as well as chsnging it up with 3 day fasts. Eating healthy while still enjoying the foods she loves. The occasional binge but then back in track. I believe her next goal it to tone and build muscle. Perhaps while in menopause, losing the impossible belly fat- that one CAN'T lose while in menopause. My point is that everyone is different what works for some doesn't work for others but it can be done in a safe and healthy manner. To be fair this woman was back in her size 0's and 2's after her 1st birth in about 1.5 months of giving birth - apparently lots of water retention. She did realize that although breastfeeding helped she lost weight too quickly.
There is SOOOOO much misinformation on this 'session' Andrew, that the mind boggles. I have a medical background and I'm floored at many of the comments.....comments that show a gross lack of education.
Yes, the ignorance and misinformation that people comment really shows that they have no understanding of how ozempic actually works. Or the benefit to insulin resistant and Type 2 diabetics.
Intermittent Fasting is the best gift we all can give our body and long-term health. No side effects, our blood sugar levels won't be an issue for stroke or heart disease. Type 2 diabetes is avoided, taking pharmaceutical drugs avoided, high medical costs. 😊😊😊
Be healthy and wise ❤❤❤
LT Pottenger channel has all the info
I totally agree, but women need to customize the fast around their menstual cycle and be careful of hormonal fluctuations.
Not all weight loss injections work. Personally I'm on one. Ive a good bit to lose and having difficultly shifting it so my GP suggested it, however in 8 weeks I've only lost 7lbs and before I get attacked and told to, just stop eating, ive drastically overhauled my diet. The only thing the weight loss inhevtions do for me is make me feel extremely sick.
Please do not give up on weight loss, if that is something that is going to improve your health. I was 300lbs and over 6 years was able to get down to 150lbs. I've been able to maintain that as well. I'm 5 foot 8, so it's a very healthy weight for me. I spoke to the doctor about getting those tablets that helped and were not the amphetamine or antihistamine based ones. He said that they caused malabsorption issues. Also you had to cut out all fats and if you didn't you have the runs, as a friend who is type two diabetic was put on them. And we need some fats in our diets as they're important for our bodies to work properly.
I did it using a website where I'd diarise all my foods and this meant weighing everything etc but they have a great database. If you're in the UK it's called www.weightlossresources.co.uk
At my weight my calorie limit was almost 3k per day and as I lost weight it would go down.
Weight watchers and all the diet companies don't actually want you to keep the weight off. Because then you'd never come back. They don't explain the diets, which for WW is low fat low GI. And if you look at WW foods, they replace fat with sugar.
I used to be able to eat three quarters of a large dominos pizza by myself. As our stomachs get stretched out. Now I'd eat maybe max of two slices.
But what I didn't do was cut out everything. As then you are almost guaranteed to fail. As it's not possible to keep denying everything in the longer term.
When people start at a diet club of some kind they will often lose up to 10lbs in the first week. This is purely the loss of the glycogens which have built up in the liver over many years. And if people then go back to the club a couple of years later, they don't understand why they don't have this large initial weight loss. Because it takes a lot of years for those glycogens to build up again. And that is often why you feel really sick especially if you try the high protein low carb diets.
Exercise does help a lot. I was very disabled after giving birth so exercise was hard. Initially I could walk 5 minutes or so, but slowly I was able to build this amount. I went to the GP asking for help with my back, as I was limping and had awful sciatica. They just said lose weight. I went back again after I'd lost 6 stone. they go you need to lose weight. I said weigh me. Now compare that to my previous weight. And then reasonably said, if this was weight related, then surely it would be getting better not worse. There is hereditary Degenerative Disc Disease in my family, my dad has it, I have it. I now have lost 8 discs. I'm also allergic to the ibuprofen family of medications so have to take opioids. Which most of the GPs in Central London just refused to prescribe. I was a sent to the pain clinic. Finally had an MRI done which confirmed it etc...They did say that I needed opioids, and I was able to continue my job using those, I was a Barrister. But the sciatica was incredibly debilitating. So they put me on gabapentin. Which turned my brain to swiss cheese and basically ended my career, as I told it was taking those and continue walking with my cane, or rapidly end up in a wheelchair. I had done well and saved a lot of money so I've nothing to complain about there and my husband has a good job. But I am pretty bored and really miss what I used to do.
But before that I was slowly able to up the amount of walking that I did. And at weekends we'd start at Paddington Basin and walk the regents canal to Limehouse basin, then get buses back home. Or head out of London and do a long walk. It really helped so much. When I'd lost enough weight, where I felt I could go swimming and not be stared at, or as I said, have Greenpeace show up and try and repatriate me to the Thames, I did. But I was already getting loose skin. but now you can buy swimming shorts and it's acceptable for women to wear those. So at around a size 20 I went swimming again. One hour of just swimming boring lengths burns the most calories, it's not boring to me as I love swimming but again very worth it. We've moved back to Northern Ireland, where I'm from and live near a very safe beach. I have a scuba semi-dry suit which allows me to swim all year round. Even in summer the water doesn't get above 15 degrees, the rest of the year, it's having the car running with heating on full blast for when you come out, as that is the danger. Cold water also burns more calories.
As when it comes down to it, calorie counting works. Energy in versus energy out.
ALSO, congratulation on losing 7lbs. I don't care if you think that isn't enough in the time. It's a loss, and to honest, the more slowly you lose the weight, the more chance you have of keeping it off. I lost a lot initially but then it did slow right down. Also things like PCOS and many other conditions that we ladies get, can hugely affect the rate at which we lose weight. So please do not give up. I have PCOS. And I found reducing my carbs to 40% of my daily intake helped my symptoms and weight loss massively. But finding out this information back then was really difficult.
I don't know if it's easier to find these things out now. I recently went through two operations in one day, Had to get all my teeth removed(long story) and they found out I was pregnant just before the operation and it was ectopic. So I also have had the fun of having most of my reproductive system removed. I've got one third of my uterus left. I thought I was too old to get pregnant but apparently not. So I'm lucky that I've actually been offered HRT, as I know in the UK many women are fighting to try and get it right now. I decided to see what it was like first but being plunged directly into menopause is awful and I'm starting the HRT soon. Menopause also makes it harder to lose weight.
I haven't been able to properly do exercise since beginning of september. And my back is giving me more pain etc... I did go swimming last week again. And will now start building up going for walks again. Not being able to eat solids because of no teeth has led to the opposite situation for me. I went down to 9 stone 4 and the GP has said i need to eat more. Which is leading me to have a big bowl of ice cream every day. I cannot weight until I get my false teeth again and can go back to eating a more normal diet.
I'm damn lucky that I haven't ended up with type two diabetes to be honest, and I think losing weight slowly helped that massively.
So I hope that gives you some hope and that it has given you some information that you might not have known before and apologies if you do know all of those, my intention is most certainly not to patronise or try and teach you to suck eggs.. I think that sharing our experiences can help each other and if you need a supporter I'm totally here for you.
@@irestar6your experiences were really interesting - thank you.
@@irestar6the Greenpeace comment 😂😂
The doctor I used to go to started offering these shots to people. You go in once a week to get the shot from a nurse and it’s VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE!! I don’t know how people can afford it.
This is infuriating, my brother in law has diabetes and is insulin dependent, he was on ozempic and his blood sugar was stable and he’s been doing great for a few years, along come these selfish idiots and now his Gp can’t get his medication because it’s being used for weight goals, his sugar levels are now all over the place and they can’t stabilise him, it’s disgusting and needs to stop!
As a physician I really had trouble listening to this. It’s a great drug with a great side effect profile, and has wonderful uses. There is just too much to say here.
I found this journalist very unprofessional. She made a lot of allegations without having any proof.
Excuse my ignorance, but I have a colleague who uses Ozempic for diabetes and she is worried, because there are studies out there that indicate a potential risk of pancreatic and other cancer types after long term use. I am not an expert in this, just saying....
Apart from the cost we do not yet know the long term adverse effects, from Ozempic. Already there are cautions about thyroid cancer, mental health issues, worsening diabetic retinopathy. The smart people will hold back, sit on the sideline and watch, a while longer.
40:28 If you think there’s nothing new to discover, it’s like comparing your knowledge of a drop of water to the ocean. The amount of unknowns is so vast, millions of years could lapse and we still wouldn’t know a tenth. To me this fact is a gift to keep us humble, but more importantly to keep us exploring our universe and our understanding of it.
I'm truly disturbed by this current Ozempic dieting trend.
I’ve seen hormone therapy and diabetes meds, have you seen the tongue patch they have stitched on that’s so painful you just don’t eat??.. 😢the lengths that they will go to is not only disturbing it’s dangerous and it’s really pushing a horrible idea to our children not to mention the amount of plastic surgery these “starlets “ get
I hate that we even have to have a conversation about Jessica Simpson‘s weight. It’s just unfair for her because she’s always been beautiful and all women fluctuate in size yet she is destroyed by the media and by the garbage rag magazines that write about her. The vanity today is now one of the most expensive versions I’ve seen in a long time but now Big Plastic.. is just the newest head of the hydra that is big consumer America 😅
Physicians that prescribe Ozempic for anything other than its original intended use should be charged with malpractice.
In the UK it is only supposed to be available on the NHS if other means do not control your diabetes. Some GPs are being pressured into prescribing it even before other drugs have not been given chance to work, just because the patient thinks it will be great for weight loss. I know a friend on it, but it is supposed to be only for 2 yrs. I love her dearly but she still is relying on the drug to lose weight rather than amending her attitude towards food.
No one knows the long term effects of drugs like Ozempic. Also people doing Botox have no idea of long term effects either.
Population control
I lost over 60 lbs of bad gut waste by drinking water w/ACV with “mother”. My body heals fast again and energy levels off charts. No more meds for nerve pain. The more bitter the better. Your body will be healthier and your cravings for sugar goes away. Cellulitis healed. I pray someone benefits from this. 🙏🏻😔
You are right! Add turmeric for anti-inflammatory properties and a no sugar diet!
@@maggiem.1539 alkaline system healthy. Mediterranean diet too.
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Wow, I'll have to check into that. I struggle with fatigue and fibromyalgia. I don't care about my weight. I just want to feel good and have energy.
@@persnickety369 well I Had nerve pain from neck discs out of wack for over 20 yrs. No more meds. I have feeling in my hands and feet again. I sweat again which has a Good for u! My system was on the way to dying. I prayed and listened. I Work out building back muscle instead of fat👊🏻.