Stacking Wood to Dry - Homestead Basics
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In this video I show how I stack slabs of wood to dry, these slabs were milled with a Granberg Chainsaw mill. You can see the video here- • HUGE CHAINSAW MILLING ... These slabs of wood will take about 2-3 years to dry as much as they can dry outside, I'll then finish them off in an electric kiln. In the meantime, they will slowly dry outside, stacked on a foundation of cinder blocks and treated 4X4's. The slabs are spaced with 3/4 X 3/4 inch strips of wood called stickers. Mine were cut out of 2X6 spruce lumber. The stack is finished off by ratchet strapping it together and covering with roofing tin.
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Always like hearing you say this is at another property I bought. 😜
Me too, I'll be showing it eventually and it will pop up in videos now and again.
I’ll be watching 😁
Me, too! This means the possibility of more videos!
Slabs look great, I’ll still be watching in 2-3 years when you turn them into something. Keep it up as always. Doing great!!!
Thanks
FINALLY a new video!
Beautiful timber 👌👌👏👏
Liked before even watching.Because you know its good👍
Well played.
These will make some awesome furniture
there he is .... still alive
Great Basics👍🏼🆒 thanks
Timely. I've just been given a couple of 32" oak logs. Going to have them cut at a sawmill and was wondering how to stack them. Thanks for posting!
Bingo
Good video :) I've watched you purchase and remodel different properties. Will be looking forward to your documenting this new one.
Thanks for sharing,Sincerely ..........................
Thank you
Thanks for sharing... I love hanging out with my dad. My dad built a solar kiln. I wish I could show you. You Tube doesn't let you post pictures. That oak looks like it will make some gorgeous farmhouse tables.
I'd like to see it, check out my facebook or go to my website to contact me. www.thehomesteadcraftsman.com. I'm interested in building a kiln where I'm stacking this lumber.
"DAD! Do you have to wear those things everywhere we go??" lol ... Keep up the good work my man!
Those would be some fine table tops huge beautiful white oak. Don't see many that big anymore
It is some nice stuff, surprisingly, the slabs that came out of the tree further up were even wider, some about 48 inches, the tree turned kind of oval part way up and I milled them out in their widest dimension.
@@thehomesteadcraftsman8975 that's impressive that's true old growth timber. I bet the growth rings are super tight
It's pretty common for oaks to get big like this, they get way bigger. This one was in a residential area, which saves them from being logged in more rural settings on tracts of land.
Nice slabs! Someday will be some awesome tables!
Thanks
good job
Lookin good! Nice level place to stack.
Thanks, I've enjoyed a few of your videos myself.
Wow! Thanks!
Wow I would lovelovelove to have a table from those slabs 😍 beautifull pieces of wood!
You could find someone to make one....but it would be expensive!
I just finished slabbing up some oak last weekend. My bar is only 36" tho so I can't mill as big of trees as you. They still look beautiful either way and it's fun to know you're stopping a tree from becoming fire wood
36 inches still gets you some nice slabs, I run my mill with a 36 inch Cannon Superbar as well. I got a set of rails to do so.
So that is the way it is done. You could almost put in a few nails if the metal wants to blow away, but YOU are the master stacker. "scooch", now that is a new term to me. Just wondering if you do any iron work and do you like it? I could see one of those slabs with black iron legs maybe a curls here and there. Everything you do is so damned interesting or you make it look great. How 'bout having a contest for your world biggest fan, gets a table???? I know I would win it. Thanks for upload, peace.
Ha, thanks.
Thanks for posting this. It is just what I needed. Im going to try my first slabbing in the coming week (Hickory) and I need to build a drying rack. My neighbor brought me some 4X4 pallets that are made from 4X4 Pressure treated bases and the tops have 2- 2X4's and 2-2X7's. do you think I can be successful with these the way they are? I would send you a photo if I knew how to. The other option would be to buy 2-4X4X10's as the long rails and just put the pallets on top of them? Thanks
That was helpful. I was just wondering how long they would need to dry before using them. I'd like to saw my own flooring to use in a house build in 2 or 3 years.
Are you still using your truck bed kiln? I'd love to see the next step for these slabs, whenever you decide they are ready to be kiln dried.
I really enjoy your videos. I have learned so much and they have really helped me in my new hobby. Question for you. I slabbed a couple hickory and Walnut logs and have them on a drying rack I built. How concerned should I be about wood boring insects and worms? Some of the bark is coming off the slabs and I am noticing worm trails! I really do not want all that work to go down the drain! Thanks
Nice slab. Perfect for your milling projects to air dry.
Have you watched Matt Cremona and his monster bandsaw mill build?
I have, it's a very cool mill. I've considered getting his plans and building one.
One thing I have watched others do is treat the end edges to prevent checking. Might be something to look in to.
I used Anchorseal, it's clear wax.
Cool
Clear white oak is pretty sought after for wooden boat ribs.
Indeed.
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Beautiful slabs. I think I would brush on some cheap latex paint onto the ends to help prevent splitting.
I anchor sealed the logs before milling, you are always going to get some cracks.
I'm glad I decided to read the comments before raising the same point. So, along the same lines...I get that it's Oak and the rate of moisture loss drops pretty quick early on....do you ever need to go reapply end sealant, you know as a result of exposure to the weather?
I have not been using it long enough to know, but I'm going to guess no. That is if the wood is covered from rain. It's pretty waxy stuff, so I don't see it just coming off unless there's some effort put in.
You're pretty trusting leaving nice slabs of wood in the open, even if it's on your property. I hope the area isn't sketchy with curious eyes.
It wouldn't be a problem in my area, plus it's hundreds of yards off the road and barely visible.
Do you cover it with a tarp when it rains?
The ends of the slabs looked untreated, did you put anything on the ends to help reduce checking? Just curious.
Great video, I always enjoy them.
Cheers
I coated the end of the logs with AnchorSeal when cut.
Nice slabs. Why don't you seal your ends with anchor seal or paint?
They are coated in anchor seal
Dude, this helps me so much! I've go a big white oak log to mill and will have to stack and dry it outdoors for a while. One question: Should I seal the ends of the slabs or not? Thanks so much:-)>
Also, if i may add a part two to that question; will debarking it now help keep down the bug population?
Treating the ends of the logs is best, but you should do it as soon as it is cut down and into logs. I use anchor seal, which is on the slabs you see in the video. It is basically a milky wax that dries clear. No matter what, you are likely to get some cracking in white oak, especially on large thick slabs, a 1x6 board has a lot less stress on it as it dries. Don't worry about having done anything "wrong", you are fine. I mill up dead trees that have been laying on the ground for a long time and still get nice lumber.
Yes, that is best, for oak like this it's easiest to pull the bark off in strips after you mill the slabs, I did not do it and it got hard and could not easily be pulled off. I did pull some off as I was milling and it just peeled right off....should have got it all off then. Once advantage in keeping the bark on is it protects the live edge from damage when handling the slabs.
Thanks so much!
are you going to do a video about this new property?
Yes, as soon as I'm done with the videos on the other house I'm working on.
The Homestead Craftsman awesome can’t wait.
epoxy and this wood will make a nice table or counter top
Do you use an external audio recorder with mic? Like a little hand-held lecture recorder, and add that audio to the video? Thanks
No, it's just the internal mic.
A stacking wood video
where did you learn how to fell and slab big trees? I have several large black walnuts in my woods that a local mill offered $3k for but I'm thinking I could get a lot more out of them if I felled and slabbed them myself, would you agree? Thanks for the upload, I've been subscribed for more than a year and really like your channel.
It's not much to it, just cut it down and mill it. I don't know what to tell you, if they were in my woods I'd leave them. If I was bound and determined to make money off them, I'd lean toward the $3k unless they where monsters, then I may consider something different.......but keep in mind, they are the ones with the market for the wood. If you slab it up who are you going to sell them too.......keep in mind they will be wet as well.
Your poor helper looks like he's falling apart even before even lifting one log :D
Ahh, it's your dad hahhah!!! he needs some workout! :P
Would there be any value in having an industrial fan blowing across the wood, or would it dry it too fast?
It would have to run for years so it would cost too much. You could air dry then pit it in a kiln.
Trees natures reversing sensor
makes me want to harvest a couple trees I have on the property.one is a white ash about 3.5ft dia. still alive but the Emerald ash borers are killing most everything here in Western NY .! is it ok to harvest the wood after the tree is mostly dead ? I hate the thought of taking such a huge becoming rare tree if it can somehow survive this bug !
+Dan C As soon as you cut a tree down it's dead. It depends on what the problem is. I recently milled a walnut that had been dead standing for 10-15 years. I have a good amount of dead standing oak milled for table tops as well. Id leave the tree.
Looks like you drug Dad out of the engraving room to help!
The visors are permanently attached to his head...but yes I did.
The Homestead Craftsman Glad he could come out to help AND take a close look at the grain - haha.
The Homestead Craftsman, He looks like your brother !
Nope, he's almost twice my age.
The Homestead Craftsman, Whatever he's doing, tell him to continue cause he's very young looking !
Hey quick question. What if I cut slab 2”, finish it and make into a farm table without drying the slab?
It will turn into a mess most likely.......but there's that slim chance that doesn't exist that everything will be ok.
I just found your site and like what your doing.....
I’m looking for slab wood ....
Would prefer white oak 3 to 4” thick, minimum 48” wide and
Well over 20’....
I’m wanting to build a dining table and chairs....
If we can work it out on cost I will make arrangements to pick up slabs myself and have a way to load it.....
I would prefer to pick up wood the day it is cut.... and take it to a kiln to start prepping for my use.....
Now ... i do not know what dimensions white wood will grow....
Would you interested in selling slabs for large kitchen table ??
Thanks ... SAM G
Remember to check the tie down straps that you are using around the boards. They will strech ever so slightly. Especially during the first week, they will need to be re tightened :)
Just tightened yesterday, still surprisingly tight and it's been a while since stacked.
@@thehomesteadcraftsman8975 Roger that, is guess there is differences between wood species. Also, how long has your been on the ground before you milled it? The last stack i did was milled the day after it was felled, so it had a quite high moisture content, and had to be tightened alot :)
@@KNJensen The tree had fell about a month before I milled it but it was still pretty much living, blew over in a storm and enough of the roots where still in the ground. White oak is very slow drying, so how thick they are....I doubt they have dried very much still.
What do you use to seal your end grain with?
Anchor Seal the original formula
what keeps you from going straight to an electric kiln ? thank you
In the case of these slabs, they are white oak and green. If you put them in a kiln under that much heat and dehumidfying, you would probably loose a lot due to movement, cracking, etc. If these where big pine slabs, you might be able to swing it. Also, if I dried it all, I'd have to keep it all somewhere bone dry afterward and I don't have the room now.
I have seen people treat the ends to help prevent the slabs from cracking. Is that necessary?
Justin Poff definitely helps
I use anchorseal. Nothing is necessary but it's your best bet to avoid major checking but doesn't guarantee anything. Species makes a difference as well. But the stuff does work great.
Two questions... 1. How do you keep say termites from eating the wood?
2. If you wanted to use these slabs right away for furniture, about how long would they have to be in an electric kiln?
1. Watch out for termites, don't set them on the ground. Treat the area for them, termite shields on the blocks.
2. This thick, in a kiln, a month at a minimum but maybe 60 days. If you dry white oak too fast, you'll end up with problems.
If only all young people were as positive and productive members of society as you.
What a lovely world it would be.
A wonderful world with beautiful slabs of wood!
Don't forget to tighten the nylon straps in about a week. they Stretch like mad under tension.
I give them a little crank every once in a while.
cant you put them in the kiln once they get to about 13% and dry them the rest of the way. Should not take 3 years to get to 13% should it?
White oak is slower to dry, humidity makes a difference as well, so it depends where you live.
Don’t you need to wax or paint the ends to seal them and keep them from checking?
I did, anchor seal. I don't care what you use, there's no way to get perfect results, there is always some loss when drying lumber, especially when the slabs are thick and wide.
Good job. In the video it looked like the wood was bare.
are you going to cut those slabs thinner .. can't imagine using them that thick
They will get flattened, so some thickness will come off.....but they could be thinned to any thickness. You could also join them together making a top out of two slabs, which would change the scale of the thickness.
Great job. How come I see some guys cut down a tree, slab it and use the wood within days? Especially log home builders. Doesn’t that create problems? Thank you for your videos.
In cabin building it's "Best" to season the logs for several years......but I guarantee when most all the many cabins were being built that are still standing today, they didn't sit there in the rain while the logs dried. There are ways to build most anything with green wood if you plan for the movement. basically, you are going to get some settling, checks and cracks, but I think building with green logs would be fine in many cases. Lumber for furniture is different, the movement can cause problems. Slabs for tops will cup and warp all up if not stack right. The structure of a cabin, the joinery and it's weight, help tame the logs as they dry.
I have a huge elm tree that’s been dead about three years. I slabbed and stacked six 2 inch slabs so far. Can that be used right away? Thank you in advance. I love your videos.
You are asking if it can be used right away but I don't know what you want to use it for, you can do anything you want but it might not go good. What are you making?
Why was your helper wearing magnifying glasses?
I thought they were virtual reality goggles....
He uses them for his work.
Slabs are two inches thick? Width is 36 inches?
They are about 2 1/4 thick, some were 2 1/2. The widest slabs are a over 36 on the big end but vary from slab to slab.
Ha, I'll be able to use them before then but yes, it will be a heavy piece.
I would have thought peeling the bark would have helped keep the bugs from eating it.
It would, didn't get it off in time, once it's dry, it's like concrete to get off.
Like watching paint dry
but much longer
They should be dry enough in about a year or year and a half, it's an inch per year, per side contacting air so 2 inches slabs take about a year to dry !
Not sure it works the way your saying, two inches, two years.
Keep us updated I'm curious ! I guess more is better than not enough !
Just keep the leaves cleaned off.
I'm guessing the help you got there was your brother. 👍😁
+Braxx Juventa My Dad
Oh! I'm sorry! It must feel like a compliment to him then! :) Thank you for the reply.
i wish i was in an area where you can buy affordable homes a 2 bedroom fixerupper in my area is 6-700K! and oak logs like that are just not around . ahhh one day...
This particular place was not cheap, it's a normal house with a lot more than just a front yard.....but it still wasn't $700k
What size lumber
2 inch?
About that.
is that your dad helping you?
Yes