The Legend of ZZTop
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Now THIS is a legend that we've all heard about!
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This guy is like a low elo legend that got good
theres hope!
Town bell into gg = flex.
Now I know it is at least possible to hit 1500 with a boom-first mentality on open maps.
🎶 Gimme all your relics
All your deer and ibex too 🎶
underrated comment 🤣
Did that singer write the song GIMME GIMME after watching this video?
a man of subtle movements.
absolute organic game-plan.
Exquisite.
so smoooth
organic non-gmo VEGAN BUILD ORDER. damn
@@pizza-for-mountains He pushes the deers. I wouldn't call it VEGAN FRIENDLY. 11
The profile picture fits the comment..
This is truly a sharply dressed moment.
Best L4d2 achievment ever
Definitely some legs in showing more of his games
Every girl crazy for a sharp dressed man.
@@stevelaw3886 🎉
@@ilonkamvtv eh what?
The lack of blacksmith upgrades seems deliberate to me. He's relying on fortifications and tight base design, unit micro, unit positioning, bonus damage, and healing to keep units alive and protect his eco instead of blacksmith upgrades. He's saving hundreds of food and gold by not getting those upgrades and he's getting to Imperial Age faster.
1000%. He's done the math and decided it's not worth it with this strat.
Pikes doing an extra 1 or 2 dmg is nothing when they rely on 15+ bonus damage. It's like a 5% attack increase, and won't even decrease the number of hits to kill in most instances.
Knights could definitely benefit, but he probably thinks he's better off spending the res on 1 or 2 extra units, esp since he doesn't mass cav anyway. Or using the res to get to imp faster.
And then his scorps and monks don't actually benefit from the blacksmith.
The one upgrade that might still be useful for him is armour 1 because it's so cheap and actually makes a significant difference in survivability on his pikes and cavs, even if the numbers are small.
you know a strat is good when you win without upgrades
The only blacksmith upgrades that would help would be infantry armor for halbs and range/attack for castles. They aren't using much that needs blacksmith upgrades so might as well go all in on the push and not go for blacksmith upgrades
Agreed, halbs have 32 bonus damage against cavalry (+ the normal melee damage), so investing a ton of resources just to earn 4 more damage is kinda pointless when the enemy is only using cavalry anyways.
@@SuperD863 True. The attack is close to useless. But the armour is pretty important. Longer lasting halbs live to do more damage.
Still very strange to see no blacksmith upgrades at 1500 ELO. Considering that he still had a blacksmith for castle age transition and spare food in the long run, at least a couple armor infantry upgrades wouldn't hurt. I wonder how his late game play looks like. :)
Well then why even bother building blacksmith? Make market instead for the second building, he often floats res he could sell/balance eco later on. Even the +1 armor would help a lot and it's just food. This could still be optimized more, but pretty cool he hangs at 1.5k with town bell :D
@@Memphisko you need a blacksmith to build a siege workshop iirc. I haven't played without a blacksmith for so long that I'm not 100% 11
last 2k games as Ethiopians AND he just got buffed by the outpost change.
and the heavy scorpion change
This channel is such a treasure. I have only played AOE2 like 3x. I played empire earth as a kid which makes me terrible at AOE2, but it's so fun to watch unique strategies play out.
Just start playing it! :D i played both Aoe2 and Empire Earth back in the day :)
Empire Earth GANG🎉😂
This was so inspiring to me. I love the way Zztop built a compact base, made house walls, and had vision of the map. Would love to be able to do something like this in my own games.
Let this man into tournaments, he gotsta get paid
Do you seriously believe he is gonna stand against pros 11
@@WigglyWingsabsolutely not
Honestly I don’t think he needs blacksmith upgrades. Doesn’t make much army and his comp is siege and monks. Think it’s part of the strat imo
Wow. In the first game I was suprised that Blame_lagg hadn't been more aggressive after the drush. Usually you can expect a follow up with scout rush, because red had nothing to defend with, except 11 vills on berries at that moment. But the strategy from ZZTop is very bold anyway (pushing deer on Arabia without scout an opponent is a risky play). And the order of actions I liked very much: FC, then three knights, then TC on stone and wood, then a monastery, 5 monks for the relics and defence, a castle, scorpions with torsion engine and some shotels probably.
20:04 is the exact moment the mad lad became a legend
In my mind it was town patrol
this guy is actually so good wtf, insane map control
I am really curious how he deals with archers rush. like you can't fight that with villagers, the same way you would with scouts. I guess he just takes the damage while going up to castle and the knight can deal with it later? Also man-at-arms would also be strong enough to take him from berries
Yeah Archer rush beats this guy
Over 2k games Ethiopians so yeah I'd be very curious to see how he handles archer rushes
Probably he builds tower
I'd like to see if he has any trick up his sleeve for that. I'd guess he loses a lot of the games to archers in feudal.
Its seems like he goes 25 pop deer push knight rush, archer rush will be maybe too slow on lower to mid levels to punish that, I mean 15 min castle age that is sharp timing, and yea as
Михаил Штенцов mentioned, tower could buy him even more time.
Do you put your game scouter on auto-scout, or do you help with the scouting? 😅
The real question here
I guess it's better to click it somewhere now and then. Because in my experience an auto-scout runs into TC fire very quickly (sadly, even if you already have your enemy scouted).
@@Wanderer1258 Я пошутил про помощника Т90! 😁
@@AvyScottandFlower Очень тонкая была шутка, до меня дошла как до жирафа на вторые сутки. :)
His play style is totally unique, and there are so many little things that make use of immersive features of the game. The knights healing in the castle for example. It makes sense the knights would go chill in the castle to recoup and then come back out onto the battlefield. Things like this remind me of when I first played the game in the early 2000s. I would always use features like that. I would have units heal in the castle, I would use monks to restore my troops after battles, I would form up armies with a single knight, a bunch of pikemen, and some onagers and move it around the map just because it looked cool, and looked like a real medieval army. AOE2 has the coolest mechanics and setting. Love it.
When I saw the thumbnail I was like "whoa, T90 has branched out and is now making biopics"
As you said, he's got his timings down, that's why he's not going blacksmith upgrades. He doesn't want to delay his imp or heavy scorp timing
And for the townbell, you're right it's not optimal but I think he's doing it to avoid taking any losses at all. Bell will always make sure villagers will find somewhere they can fit, doing it manually you sometimes overfill and you lose a few villagers. Usually we don't mind, because it's something we can improve with micro or because we still have other economy. But... This guy's different, look how he saves his low hp military. He doesn't want to lose units at all
@@FangSylux great analysis
This was absolutely awesome.
I'm wondering if the lack of blacksmith upgrades is to min-max the eco even more? If he's going all-in on the torsion engine siege, blacksmith upgrades might not be as worthwhile to ZZ compared to getting to Imp with Torsion Engine siege.
The decission made left me guessing to the end. Its like a magician but the entire show is just ONE TRICK transitioning from 'Pick a card' to 'I am now upside down in a water tank- do you remember the card I gave you?"
ZZtop is indeed a legend, the quirky and unique ways he plays Ethiopians, especially when he played non-meta style. I can't believe it works in 1500 elo. I will try to try this in my next arabia game. gg wp!
Lost to the town bell xD hilarious
He's got hunt. He knows how to use it.
There's a game from 1991 called ZZT too. It was the first game from Potomac Computer Systems, which later rebranded to Epic MegaGames and then just Epic Games, the current makers of Unreal Engine and Fortnite.
He's got strats, he knows how to use 'em🎵
The town bell into gg really got me XD
Torsion Engine basically turns your bombard cannons into sniper onagers. It makes Ethiopians ridiculously strong in imp age.
Townbell into GG. Le-gen-da-ry. I'm mostly impressed with their unit control, though. Saving those knights in the second game, and also using monks and what else. Saving scouts and defending with vills, all those stuff make them a really good player even without "whacky" strats.
Man we need more Mid Elo Legends/Maniacs like this!
I've played this guy many times! Never realized his nickname was ZZ top :D. Very fun games
Guarantee at my low elo 1100 if I tried this type of fast castle into no upgrade knights into naked boom I would have 20 archers in my base faster than I could sneeze, forced off all resources having to tower with dead vils. I would like to see how this pans out against archer aggression
6-8 archers with fletching takes about 14-15 minutes to reach the enemy, but also, he plays ethiopians and going archers against ethiopians is already playing on their field. Thats why both opponents went blind skirms
@@LokirofRoriksted
6-8 archers with fletching is now at 12 minutes.
Nobody goes for 24 pop 2 ranges anymore, current meta is really fast.
Scouts + towers is how you counter a naked FC, but it's all about reacting and reading the situation in time, which is also a hard skill.
You're saying this because you know what he's doing before the game even starts. But no one's going to rush archers against Ethiopians, it's madness 11. That's why you saw both opponents going into skirms without him even building an archery range. They just expect it.
It's the same with Franks. Most people will see Franks and immediately add a few spears and expect cav. You'd never see Franks and immediately think "you know what, I should do a full knight rush against this guy".
The way he places his buildings reminds me a lot of WC3
The town bell tolled for the death of blue's chance to win
We need a legend of Pooplordonyoutube.
Yeh, I want to see T90 reacting to 8 pop scouts
that vision with outposts in underrated
So happy to see another legend. Thanks T90
A new legend is born
what a legend, solid gameplan, execution as well. love this game! good stuff t90
He goes up super fast using all the bonuses from Ethiopians and makes you think he'll go for knights (it looks like a fast castle), then he starts a very clean boom towards imp into monks, siege and pikes, with only upgrades from the university and the heavy scorpion upgrade. Well thought and well executed. Nice to see.
Wow, having the All-Seeing Eye is a superpower I never knew I needed.
Definitely the ultimate cure for the “darkness is scary” mindset T90 regularly refers to with LELs.
The legendary town-bell into GG strat
Rumor Spreadin Round
in That Feudal Town
About that Scout outside La Grange
Just let me know if you wanna go
To that Archer out on the Range
They gotta lotta nice vills
It hurts to see a 1500 elo player town bell, wtf.
bro is 1500 with no blacksmith
and using town bell tf
I think I'm missing something really obvious, but how does "t0942" translate to "top"?
25:33 zero shots from red's scorpions for half the battle... throw
You know it's some next level strat when it forces you to resign with town bell!
It's a milk toast comment with a dozen upvotes on a video most of us had never heard of before today.
That reaction screams emotionally volatile.
he also built the initial base where it wasn’t fully walled, but any enemy military would have to pass the TC
Zz Top is a rough boy
this guy seems like he came from a different game like chess or another strategy game m just blown away with his placements of buildings and units
the way he fights or interacts seems like hes playing a different game in aoe
❤❤
I remember the legend of isit, the liar etc. Everytime they came as a suprise. Everytime I kind of feel the meta is defined and almost everyone plays it. There is always this new legend and surprise that comes up! The fact that this is a 1500 playing such a unique strat is crazy. Here I'm sitting at 1300 trying my best to be good at meta play!
he is like the only LEL that has somehow made it to mid-elo :0
Seriously change my mind.
1. Building heaps of houses at once with multiple vils
2. No blacksmith upgrades
3. tc bell ring
I'll say - the lack of blacksmith upgrades looks 100% intentional IMO. He's done the math and decided it's not worth it with his strat.
He's relying on his tight base design, unit positioning, bonus damage, and healing to keep units alive and protect his eco instead of blacksmith upgrades. He's saving hundreds of food and gold by not getting those upgrades and he's getting to imp faster.
Pikes doing an extra 1 or 2 dmg is nothing when they rely on 15+ bonus damage. It's like a 5% attack increase, and won't even decrease the number of hits to kill in most instances.
Knights could definitely benefit, but he probably thinks he's better off spending the res on 1 or 2 extra units or a faster imp timing, esp since he doesn't mass cav anyway.
And then his scorps and monks don't actually benefit from the blacksmith.
The one upgrade that might still be useful for him is armour 1 because it's so cheap and actually makes a significant difference in survivability on his pikes and cavs, even if the numbers are small.
This is why I love this game. No matter how unorthodox or wild you think your playstyle is, there's always someone out there who matches it. This is exactly how I play, except I play Burgundians and Coust/Gunpowder for my push. The luring of every single animal, the focus to get every relic, and the compact build is exactly how I play though XD works good for me though cuz once I get Burg Vineyards and the Relics my focus is just to get positive trades in fights and slowly work them down with the extra food/gold income from farms/relics
Damn that is so cool! Show us more of this dude games, I wonder how it looks vs other builds. I have tested this a bit and its great. 2 pikemen and 2 knights is great solution for any archer/scout rush. I need to work on this some more but its very satisfying in his hands
more games with him please lol
04:55 perfectly placed hunt
I love going three TC boom with a really fast castle on Arena with Ethiopians. Going quickly to imp torsion engine BBC with Shotels to back up can catch people off guard as they try and prepare for arbalest with counters like siege and/or skirms and they get flattened. Doing this on Arabia? The man’s a legend and I need to try it out
He's got scorpions and he knows how to use 'em!
Suprised t90 never mentioned how many lumber camps the players placed
I think some random sounds in game one were from someone shrieking into their mic.
22 to 1 kd until the knight attack is genuinely impressive
I watched a few newer games with thsi guy. He does get blacksmith upgrades now, but only in imperial age 😅
House walls the whole map. No blacksmith upgrades. Opens knights, pikes and then goes for torsion siege. Raids with hidden forward stables. Good guy
At 23:00, blue just keeps throwing away villagers, not sure what's going on there.
I think if you know exactly what he is up to, a good solution is to sneaky tower his berries and wall it in.
That would disrupt his build quite a lot.
49:05 you said most players aren't up to 1500 ELO. What is average elo? And how low/high can it go?
Average is a little under 1000. 1500 is in the top ten percent.
I think the lowest rating we've seen on T90's videos is 22 ("The AFK Player" video), and the top 10 players (in 1v1) are around 2700 - 2800, at the time of writing Hera is #1 at 2806.
teach this man blacksmith upgrades and he will crush
As a closed map player, torsion engines are insane and to me an obvious choice for a boom/defend strategy. I am entertained. Well done TOP
The best type of T90 content
You should have someone make a Legend of Wall Nothing map, where there's no stone, but walls only cost 1 stone, AND have random HP up to 1500.
More like this! Loving legends, big fan of iSit :)
We need more Isit! nostalgic and great
Philster in shambles yet again.
the town bell! what a god
I want to see how he deals with archers or towers in feudal. One tower can cover most of his base.
I want to see this guy try this with the new AoE2 Romans
Now we need to see a top player try this, time for a show match with wacky settings.
Imagine what this guy becomes when he gets at least defensive blacksmith upgrades for infantry and cavalry and starts using pike in front of his siege.
I love the heavy scorp spam. I wonder if he will try Romans?
I feel like they totally know about upgrades and just see them as unimportant to the ultimate goal of the strategy
WOULD LIKE TO WATCH THIS GUY MORE T90 LOVE HIM 11
Wake up babe new build order just dropped
1500 Elo ringing town bell lmao, with not even fletching for those Castle/TCs. I think getting tower rushed would absolutely ruin zztop's day. With that small of a base there is no way he can expand his eco.
His name is probably zzTopas in term of leetspeak i think
Man, this guy got some tush
ive always hoped to see people go more heavily on berries b4 farms, love the build! havent finished the vid but shotels should be good vs mangudai bc of new changed royal hiers.
red solved the scary fog problem :)
The Holy House Wall is too strong
Town bell into GG : Pro strats!
11:08 marge simpson moment
more of this guy pls
Can we expect more videos about this guy?
Maybe Wong “suddenlied”???
Blacksmith doesn't help Scorpions 😎
If blue would go feudal and then go with archers he will be ok against scout/spear combination, and also could go castle age and then castle drop his base