What Really Happened In The Silmarillion Compared To Rings of Power Season 1...

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2024

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  • @Raggmopp-xl7yf
    @Raggmopp-xl7yf Місяць тому +10

    I've read Silmarillion, Hobbit & LOTR many times starting at age 12. By the time I was a grownup I'd noticed one thing about Galadriel - if trouble was coming she'd disappear. And she'd disappear without warning anybody else. She had the "Sight" afterall. If people had been paying attention I can imagine a scenario where...."Yo, Bob! Where ya going?" Oh, heyTom! Leaving town - just saw Galadriel leaving." "Sh!t! Martha! Grab the kids - Galadriel left!"

    • @greywolf8836
      @greywolf8836 12 днів тому

      Not entirely true. She did ride with Gandalf, Sauroman, and Elrond to put the boots to Sauron when he was in Dol Guldor.
      She also went back to Dol Guldor during the events of LOTR and tore it down to the foundations.

  • @kingtarly499
    @kingtarly499 2 місяці тому +16

    I got my bedtime video for the whole winter thanks !😂

  • @Chrisytigers
    @Chrisytigers 2 місяці тому +5

    Leaving this for bedtime. ✅️

  • @silenttoxic707
    @silenttoxic707 2 місяці тому +7

    Leaving this for work tomorrow

  • @SAINTOBVIOUS
    @SAINTOBVIOUS 29 днів тому +5

    This show has absolutely nothing to do with The Silmarillion or any of J.R.R. Tolkiens work. This is a show that is in its own category of fan fiction. Actually, I wouldn't even consider the show runners to be fans of this material to be honest. Real fans wouldn't desecrate the original material to the extent these two idiots who run this show have done.

  • @PurpleAlize
    @PurpleAlize Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for your hard work!! ❤

  • @mattmmilli8287
    @mattmmilli8287 19 днів тому +1

    Bless you. Never watched it but this is good to cleanse any confusion. I hope the real thing gets made someday! Amazon is out of their minds just winging a fanfic because they legally can’t make the actual Silmarillion

  • @Schnitzelfox
    @Schnitzelfox 2 місяці тому +11

    you had the hard job of finding out galadriels timline, my condolocences

    • @joshbrown1311
      @joshbrown1311 13 днів тому

      Who cares the show is good

    • @tinalovre
      @tinalovre 12 днів тому

      ​@@joshbrown1311 lmaoo you are deluded

  • @forfun6273
    @forfun6273 Місяць тому +3

    I wonder if they’ll have glorfindel show up. If I’m not mistaken he was sent to counter Sauron in the second age before the Istari were sent.

  • @elMentity
    @elMentity Місяць тому +2

    I enjoy how thorough your videos are! Hate to be the one to tell you though... the letter "C" in elvish names is pronounced hard. Like "Keleborn" or "Kelebrimbor" etc. Easy mistake to make! Good thing the showrunners had access to the appendices with the pronunciation guide or they might have fucked that up too haha

  • @Asherfonseca
    @Asherfonseca 3 дні тому

    I haven't read your comments, so forgive me if someone has expressed the meaning of the lyrics. It's about "The Reaper" enticing someone to commit suicide. It eludes to her struggling to choose life, when she is so weak in her despair. He finally convinced her to take her own life. This is truly a sad song that grabs you and tells you to beware of being at peace and comforted. The beauty of life is in the struggle. Cliché, I know, but we are alive when we feel. My Son had the Drummer, Albert Bouchard as his Music Teacher. He played with him. What a gift.

  • @TihonTheDED
    @TihonTheDED 2 місяці тому +11

    Dude that's amazing!!! RoP is such shitshow that no one will watch it so this video is amazing !!! Thanks!!!

    • @troffle
      @troffle Місяць тому +1

      Worse: virtually nobody who will watch RoP will read the book, so this work is even more valuable.

  • @dislikebutton8789
    @dislikebutton8789 2 місяці тому +3

    Great video! Will watch multiple times to boost for you man!!

  • @nickmymo3100
    @nickmymo3100 Місяць тому

    Love the show and love this video can’t explain everything in show never as detailed or as good as books but is entertaining

  • @alexneff
    @alexneff 2 місяці тому +4

    I hear there is a tornado in her in season 2

  • @troffle
    @troffle Місяць тому +1

    I am very much looking forward to watching this whole video and I thank you. Anything that goes back to the real lore (which I am also still getting through) deserves a plus. IS a plus.
    One quibble, about 1m48s in. If nothing here in Tirion in Valinor is "inherently evil" (please don't say we're talking about quantities "degrees of evil" here), then why are the other children bullying Galadriel, trying to sink her bird and why is her response to punch the boy's face in SORRY TO CONFRONT THE MAIN INSTIGATOR?
    I mean, I'm not even criticising Prime Galadriel there. I'm just criticising RoP and everybody involved in bringing this foul evil to light.
    Hold up - are you trying to blend The Silmarillion's story with RoP's, with only the appearance of the Amazon Prime logo as the signifier?
    No, let me rephrase that. Verbally you're definitely separating the two. The visual presentation doesn't make it immediately obvious though, I see.
    Oooh, oh, begging your pardon: 17m in, heard the pronunciation of "Seleborn". Appendix E, Writing and Spelling, Pronunciation of Words and Names, Consonants: "C has always the value of k even before e and i: celeb ‘silver’ should be pronounced as keleb". "KIR-dan". "Ke-le-BRIM-bor".
    ... yes I know how that makes me look. Just giving the reference in case you want to check for yourself.
    Similarly with "Eregion". "G has only the sound of g in give, get: gil 'star', in Gildor, Gilraen, Osgiliath, begins as in English gild". "E-re-gI-on".
    "VALar". Emphasis on the first syllable. Usually, the emphasis in a word is in the second-last syllable. "Gil-GALad".
    "Ëarien" is not "Ear-ien". It would be "E-a-rI-en". In the Vowels section of that appendix? "In Quenya ui, oi, ai and iu, eu, au are diphthongs (that is, pronounced in one syllable). All other pairs of vowels are dissyllabic [two syllables]. This is often dictated by writing ëa (Eä), ëo, oë."
    Please, please, please don't say "Hobbit-like Harfoots". That's like saying "American-like New Yorkers". Sorry my bad I was so focussed on content I didn't realise your accent was mine. It's like saying "Australian-like Victorians" or "Australian-like New South Welsh" or "Australian-like Queenslanders".
    26m47s: they bring "the Stranger" to a dilapidated and deserted wagon IF THEY DE-LEAVE STRAGGLERS BEHIND, HOW DID A CARAVAN END UP DESERTED WITH THESE STAGE-IRISH HORRORS?
    Actually, this video is INCREDIBLY useful for pulling apart the show's logic, even disregarding the lore. Didn't Prime Durin III disown Prime Durin IV and Disa? Which, if she has a "unique" skill of "resonating", how would they possibly let that disowning happen? Why is it we see she sings in chorus with other "unique" singers? And if her sound, like ohIdunno DC's "Black Canary" can also dig sunshafts by itself, how are these singers not on EVERY SINGLE DIG THE DWARVES HAVE?
    ... why do these people bother to set up rules and then just NOT FOLLOW THROUGH? I mean, THEIR OWN RULES forgodsownstupidsake.
    > After the eruption of Orodruin, the Southlands of Tirharad lie in ruins, with only remnants left behind. Galadriel emerges from her slumber ... The entire world surrounding her is engulfed in flames. The other survivors also show no signs of harm except for injuries from falling debris
    ... and... that's ALL you're going to say about that?
    > Therefore his return is imperative for the show to remain faithful to Tolkien's canon
    WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
    > He rises and employs the staff to conquer the three wise women and declares that he is not Sauron. He is Istar
    Meaning that the "three wise women" as Istarphobes?
    > The Istar known as The Stranger cleverly explains his memory loss. In The Lord of the rings, Gandalf and the other wizards have been in Middle-earth for centuries, gaining wisdom over time. When Istari first arrive, they are depicted as newcomers learning everything anew, similar to The Ring Of Power's portrayal of The Stranger. The memory loss is a consequence of wizards traveling from Valinor to Middle-earth.
    Erm, CITATION NEEDED. The Silmarillion, the Appendices and the Unfinished Tales all have similar passages; more in the Unfinished Tales, where he is sent by Manwë to perform his task in Middle-earth; and he brings the healing stone "Elessar" from Yavanna to Galadriel. None of this could happen if he were a "newcomer learning everything anew".
    > Galadriel reluctantly gives up her sword, which melts and when combined with mithril, enables the forging of three rings.
    At least one of which is very obviously only made up of one metal, not a combination of three.

    • @lucyosborne9239
      @lucyosborne9239 Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for that comment. I very much doubt Galadriel would have punched a stupid bully no matter her age. She's better, mightier, more pure than that.

    • @troffle
      @troffle Місяць тому

      @@lucyosborne9239
      1) You are most, most welcome. Thank you for the comment.
      2) Although let's be fair, at this point Gollum is better, mightier and more pure than anything depicted on this show.

  • @stellarsjay1773
    @stellarsjay1773 17 днів тому +1

    Problem with Galadriel was that Tolkien himself kept changing her story.

  • @jbearmcdougall1646
    @jbearmcdougall1646 2 місяці тому +17

    If you love Tolkien and the stories he wrote, you’ll think that R.o.P is crap….And you’d be correct… it’s got no storyline at all…

    • @camielkotte
      @camielkotte Місяць тому +1

      It lacks character. But that's what you get with Amazon. They demolished the chances for Asimov's Foundation too. As well as The wheel of time.
      It's a lack of general cinematography art and character building and story line , covered by loads of money .
      Did you ever hear Bezos laugh ? He sounds evil. Forced and insincere. As many shows on Amazon. Too bad.

    • @joshbrown1311
      @joshbrown1311 13 днів тому

      Stfu it’s a show adaptation they’re giving visuals of words wrote in a book it’s more expensive to make a movie or show than it is to write on paper book lovers get off the shows/movies dicks they’re doin the best they can with they’re budget tryn to put live action with for words book readers just keep reading books don’t try to watch live action adaptations tf

  • @elMentity
    @elMentity Місяць тому

    Loving this full season recap with lore bits inserted. Now i dont have to slog through the whole disappointing show all over again 😀

  • @MJC1891
    @MJC1891 2 місяці тому +2

    Holy shit ❤

  • @Thatdudefresh
    @Thatdudefresh Місяць тому +1

    Found out Simon Tolkien stated he wanted this show to be like breaking bad and Sauron to be Walter White....WTF???? Str8 🤡

  • @philipdawes2661
    @philipdawes2661 11 днів тому

    No idea why they called the place Tir Harad, as Harad is a very different place from Mordor.

  • @baldis12
    @baldis12 Місяць тому +1

    Why did you skip so much from the silmarilion? Feanor.. was even written on the screen

  • @s3nju279
    @s3nju279 14 днів тому +1

    its not based on the silmarillion. in fact they were prohibited from used stuff from the silmarillion.

    • @joshbrown1311
      @joshbrown1311 13 днів тому

      So what the show itself is good

    • @s3nju279
      @s3nju279 13 днів тому

      @@joshbrown1311 im glad you thing so.

    • @joshbrown1311
      @joshbrown1311 13 днів тому

      @@s3nju279 stfu if you don’t like the show

  • @DaemonTargaryen-w6e
    @DaemonTargaryen-w6e 2 місяці тому +1

    Can you make this kind of content for ice and fire or fire and blood

    • @jess5091
      @jess5091 20 днів тому

      Pretty sure they do- it’s a different channel but I’ve listened to hours of this dudes voice.

    • @DaemonTargaryen-w6e
      @DaemonTargaryen-w6e 20 днів тому

      @@jess5091 where?

  • @cpmf2112
    @cpmf2112 2 місяці тому +31

    I blame the Tolkien estate for a good deal of the changes, they would not even consider licensing any of the Silmarillion. It was simply never on the table. That forced many of the changes because there was no other way than to make it up with the source material off limits.
    Seriously clownish replies 🙄

    • @chizzelfingers
      @chizzelfingers Місяць тому

      that has nothing to do with how bad thecwriting is,how dumb the actors are or how stupid the story is. liberals just can't create anything good. they can only steal ideas from much smarter men. it's simply an iq issue with liberals.

    • @themage1016
      @themage1016 Місяць тому +4

      No Amazon alrdy has the rights to adapt it before hand, they could have shelled out more money to actually buy the rights for the whole thing but they decided to go to with the appendices cuz they couldn’t be bothered.

    • @cpmf2112
      @cpmf2112 Місяць тому +4

      @@themage1016 nope, the Tolkien estate said that most of the Silmarillion was never available.

    • @Treayom
      @Treayom Місяць тому +5

      Amazon managed to make Tolkien fans hate Galadriel and cheer for Sauron 😅😅

    • @Aurora2097
      @Aurora2097 Місяць тому +4

      No, they just couldn't come up with a good story!

  • @ellietobe
    @ellietobe Годину тому

    Oh, come on. The atrocity that Amazon made had nothing to do with what Tolkien wrote except that they used some of the same names. You left out most of the key factors of what was actually written by Tolkien.

  • @nerdwarrior0956
    @nerdwarrior0956 3 дні тому +1

    this spoilers?

    • @videobooks3
      @videobooks3  2 дні тому

      Kind of, depends on how much the show takes from the Silmarillion

  • @joshbrown1311
    @joshbrown1311 13 днів тому

    Just enjoy the adaptation that they gave us good writing leaves for adaptation stop choking chickens over it

  • @alexneff
    @alexneff 2 місяці тому +2

    I bet it's sarumon not Gandalf

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron Місяць тому +1

      watch the last few eps
      the eastern rhun wizard says he will deal wiht the istari
      only another mairer can deal with such
      he is the other blue wizard and you learn that after that talk with tom bombadil
      HE WILL FAIL but his actions delay and weaken sauron

    • @bw1074
      @bw1074 Місяць тому +1

      @@chronosschiron well....hope you watched the latest episode. He became Gandalf

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron Місяць тому

      @@bw1074
      what a mess they ae making of this
      let me see first ill comment again later

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron Місяць тому +1

      @@bw1074 omg half way in they have massacred what was written might as well call this rings of whatever

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron Місяць тому

      grandelf.....in the east never meeting in lindon to get his ring ????????????????
      oh ,my

  • @hangalf
    @hangalf 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh my it's so bad!

  • @Thatdudefresh
    @Thatdudefresh Місяць тому +3

    This show is F'NG HORRIBLE

  • @rosshopkins2063
    @rosshopkins2063 17 днів тому

    The fucking silmarillion is insane....the fact that it basically turns into van helsing is amazing.

  • @mathieupotvin3448
    @mathieupotvin3448 2 місяці тому

    All this video for nothing because Prime created their series base on the 3 movies and lores of Jackson movies so don t compare the silmarilion with this scrap series

    • @dislikebutton8789
      @dislikebutton8789 2 місяці тому +1

      True and not, they have the appendices lollll

  • @DaemonTargaryen-w6e
    @DaemonTargaryen-w6e 2 місяці тому

    💀💀

  • @stevendiaz619
    @stevendiaz619 Місяць тому +2

    It’s for television so changes have to be made. Get over it people. No one was mad when Gandalf came back to Frodo’s after he came back from Gondor to make sure the ring was safe right away. In the books he didn’t come back FOR NINE YEARS.

    • @AnnoyingCritic-is7rp
      @AnnoyingCritic-is7rp 18 днів тому +2

      Jackson does make some changes, but the main story is left intact both in terms of sequences of events as well as characters.
      Rings of Power is exactly the opposite. It invents whole series of stories, and ignores the original stories.
      Everything about Galadriel is made up - except she did later fight in Mordor. The conflict between her and Elrond did not exist. She did not dive into the middle of the ocean and fall in love with Sauron. She did not lead a Numenorian army into the Southlands or into Mordor and witness Adar ignite Mount Doom. She did not know for certain that Anatar and Celebrimbor were making rings.
      There was no Adar. She was not captured nor prevented Elrond from attacking Adar (of course).
      Nor did she give Adar the elven ring. She did not taunt Sauron with it. She did not fight Sauron. Sauron did not turn into a image of her for no reason at all.
      She did not jump off a cliff and survive because the writers changed the laws of physics for the plot.
      Nor was she kissed by Elrond to escape Adar who she never met.
      And that is just the Galadriel story. Rings of Power is fanfiction, which invents all of these stories and changes most of the characters when the plot demands it. To say that it is like Jackson's adoption of the Lord of the Rings, and has similar differences, is clearly, plainly and absolutely a false equivalence and a false statement.
      Also, recognize that Tolkien himself would be the greatest critic of Rings of power that ever lived. When you criticize us you are really criticizing him. So give us some respect!

  • @kjellduteweert9262
    @kjellduteweert9262 2 місяці тому

    Not too dark. But not woke enough for amazon Prime.

    • @mpnuorva
      @mpnuorva Місяць тому

      It's based on Silmarillion's appendices which are in line with the rest of the book.

  • @MrEtherlord
    @MrEtherlord 2 місяці тому

    One minute in and the first bullshit. The show isn't based on Silmarillion, they don't have rights for it. Good that I saved 3 hours watching this trash.

  • @kingtarly499
    @kingtarly499 2 місяці тому +3

    Season 2 episode 3 copied everything from house of the dragons Aegons Coronation

  • @YiannissB.
    @YiannissB. 2 місяці тому +5

    Well I would watch your content but I really can't be bothered with rings of power. Especially for 3+ hours. Pass

    • @videobooks3
      @videobooks3  2 місяці тому +10

      Well we talk about what really happened in the silmarillion, so if you're curious to know the real lore of the Lord of the Rings, you could give the video a try 😅

    • @YiannissB.
      @YiannissB. 2 місяці тому +4

      @@videobooks3
      I'd watch a 3 hours video on silmarilion, for sure. I've read it recently and really liked it. But I'm just triggered by RoP. Sry

    • @YiannissB.
      @YiannissB. 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@videobooks3 Still subbing tho

  • @tastegeorgia674
    @tastegeorgia674 Місяць тому +1

    This series is so bad

    • @troffle
      @troffle Місяць тому

      "... how bad is it?"