War of the Rohirrim Official Trailer BREAKDOWN
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- We finally got the first trailer for The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim! I've been hyped for this film for a long time and can't wait til December! But first, we will deep dive into this trailer and analyze and react to it!
Official Trailer: • The Lord of the Rings:...
#lotr #lordoftherings #waroftherohirrim
What did YOU think of the trailer?! NGL guys, I am HYPE for this film. The PUNCH was legit. Also, the Japanese trailer is even better. You should check it out: ua-cam.com/video/TVB_eWCfMV4/v-deo.htmlsi=BiCYnaObD1q5NYKf
I said it in the official trailer and I'll say it here... I have a (little) hope that Beren, the steward of Gondor, who was the greatest hero of this time apears in this film saving the rohirrim, and later, Beren will marry with Hera at the end of the film so that maintained Tolkien's message about the friendship of Gondor and Rohan
I must admit I'm not a fan of the anime style and if I didn't know about the makers of the movie and it's context this trailer wouldn't have got me hyped. But since I'm obviously aware of who the makers are and the context I'm looking forward to watching it. However, at the moment I'm looking much more forward to watching Rings of Power season 2 very soon. That I can't wait for because the trailer looked much more interesting than season 1 although it also had a fair share of great moments. More live action Peter Jackson LOTR movies are of course the dream. Keep up the great work, you good nerd!
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If people liked the movies, then they never read the books. The books are better than the movies usually. I forgot to mention, Also Gandalf should have not left the group at anytime. The lake-town scene should have been The Dwarves and Bilbo were hosted, rested and pampered before being sent with boats to the ruins of Dale to confront the dragon. There should have not been any conversation with Bard the bowman. The lake-town scene should not be long, if it’s too long, it gets boring. There should have not been Dol Guldur. The Necromancer should not have existed in the Hobbit story. Gandalf should have not left the group at anytime. Gandalf should not leave the group at anytime because it’s not good for the story. Also the music at the beginning of the Hobbit movie should not be in the movie because it was boring. There should be no music at the beginning of the Hobbit movie but only the over the misty mountain song as the dwarves were sitting in the hearth.
The japanese trailer is really epic, thx for the link!
You were right. The Japanese trailer is indeed better with extra small details in it. For example, it had a scene in which it appears to be the coronation of fréaláf with the arrival of saruman. And may I say the white wizard looks pretty good in his animated form. So detailed! Don't you guys agree?
The fact a non CGI Disney/Minions/Dreamworks thing is going to theaters and is two and a half damn hours is insane for modern movies
I mean anime movies get theater release all the time. There's a Demon Slayer trilogy coming that will probably have huge boxoffice.
@@Bayard1503 Not like this in the US and not just a movie for an anime series. Those anime movies get limited runs too. Demonslayer won't be huge box office in America.
The biggest grossing anime movie in america is still Pokemon.
what 's insane is the fact that it will not be woke BS
@@nohbuddy1I mean the only thing that makes this surprising is the franchise attached to the project. The medium is probably going to have null influence on the sales.
The big battle scenes will definitely be CGI.
Can't believe Miranda Otto is returning as Eowyn to narrates the film. I hope there's a dedication for Bernard Hill, may he rest in peace.
Yea it's such a dedication that they are erasing his history and how his line gets the crown 😂..it's Helga show now
Am glad he dint live long to see legacy of theoden and his ancestry ruined ...justice for king frealof from whom theoden came ..it was frealof who saved Rohan not Helga ..without the heroism theoden nor his ancestors ever become king
@@prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl The movie isn't out right? we can't judge it all the way frealof could be here too but not as the main character as obviously Hammerhand is still alive and kicking at this point making the Hild family literal side characters during this event.
@@prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl Yes, I'm sure Bernard Hill would have been devastated to see a woman given a prominent role in a Rohan story. Nothing like that has ever happened in any stories of the Rohirrim that he was involved in... 🤔
That war cry speech in return of the king still brings tears to my eyes. Knowing that he was going to die. Man I'm tearing up right now just thinking about it. Amazon made a big mistake not letting PJ being involved with this show. This looks very epic.
Helm Hammerhand killing that man with ONE punch is the coldest thing i ever saw in LOTR🥶🥶
Dude for real, I watched it and was like, "What? He dropped him in one punch??"
One punch man 😮
@@AstroPC96 I was thinking that's exactly what should happen while he was getting punched. I was so satisfied when Helm struck back and absolutely laid the dude out. I'm sure he died rather than being knocked out due to personal health reasons. They guy wasn't that well looking.
@@AstroPC96 There is a reason he is named "Hammerhead"
@@pasindudinusha6507 I take it you meant to say "HAMMERHAND" and not hammerhead
I'm definetly excited to see this, but I have to say that when the focus of the trailer shifted to Hera being the main protagonist, it felt like the vibe went from Tolkien to Disney princess.
Same for me. I like Eowyn but there was no warrior-girls in the story of Helm Hammerhand, let alone as the main character. Why do they meddle with the original story? Ugh.
Agreed. We don't need more badass feminist Mary Sues. I was very disappointed and will not be watching this.
Built better than a Disney princess tho
I don't think I am very stoked about Hera being the main character.
1.) Her most important contribution in the books is basically being the reason why Helm receives his name due to the marriage offer, so putting her above Helm's sons and nephew who we actually know did stuff in the war feels to me like they just really wanted a female lead for the movie no matter if it really made sense or not.
2.)I think Hera will feel too much like Eowyn, which could end up deminishing both of their achievements since it would be less special for them to pick up the "masculine" roles and tasks while forsaking their orders to stay out of danger, since it would no longer be a unique thing.
3.) I was just so hyped that we would get Helm that I really hoped he would be the main character. Ever since I first read Erkenbrand's strength as a Warrior being directly related to Hammerhand like the absolute legend he is I wanted to see more about him, not to mention Helm's Deep putting him even if only by name into one of the biggest moments in the LotR.
we are living in the era of girl boss who needs no man. what did you expect? it is a pass for me, Eowyn was a great character and fits perfectly in the setting of LOTR. here? its just cheap excuse to women empowerment, or i may be wrong and it is actually good, but due to how entertainment is handling this themes this days i doubt it.
It's Rings of Power all over again. The portrayal of Galadriel still pisses me off to this day.
I’m 100% with you on this. I feel the same.
I'm with you 100% on this.
Modern progressive filmmakers cannot successfully bring Tolkien to the screen anymore, because Tolkien's work is inherently anti-progressive. It is so deeply rooted in Christianity and ancient myths of heroic ages long past, that any attempt to make it "progressive" (as these filmmakers cannot help but attempt to do) erases everything that made Tolkien's works what they are.
You mentioned in the books Wulf takes 4 years to retaliate. In the scene where Helm punches out Freca, Wulf has no facial here. When the next scene comes with Hera and Wulf speaking, he has facial hair. So it looks like some time does pass in between and thats our visual indicator.
So like a few weeks? I kid. I agree with you
I saw that yeah, I am sure they will not have any mention of a 4 year jump, likely just leaving it a bit ambiguous but nice to see that there will be some sign of time passing.
Bro was so grieved that he grew a beard in a single evening. 😂
Most men grow facial hair in a matter of days. Lol that's transition you speak of would take a week. Lol not 4 years.
Trailer needs more Helm Hammerhand.
Don't think the story is about him, sadly.
@@blueshattrick You just saved me some money. Thank you.
This is Hera's movie bro
@@RJCE420He has a large role obviously but his daughter is the MC so they are tightly constrained by the canon.
Nope. Mary Sue movie.
The name Hèra is a problem and likely one Tolkien would have hated. On the Wikipedia page for the film, it suggests that the name came from an Icelandic actress: “The first name suggested for the character did not start with 'H', but Boyens felt it should start with the same letter as Helm, Haleth, and Hama. She asked Walsh for ideas, and the latter suggested naming her after Hera Hilmar, the Icelandic actress who starred in their film Mortal Engines (2018).” We can assume that Walsh thought the name was Scandinavian because Hera Hilmar is from Iceland.
However, there is no evidence that it is a traditional Scandinavian name; in fact, it is Greek, derived from the goddess Hera. As I mentioned, this is a mistake that Tolkien would have likely hated. As a philologist, he was incredibly careful with names and their origins.
@@sevzapkino No, Héra is literally an anglo-saxon word and means "the obedient". It could also be derived from hére meaning "majestic".
@@theredjoker8857 Can you reference that? I can't find it used as a name only as a noun.
@@sevzapkino I said it is a word not a name. But it is still anglo-saxon though.
And no I can't reference that because youtube doesn't let me post links. Search for Rohirric/Anglo-Saxon dictionary.
@@theredjoker8857 Sure, but not a name. That is the point. Tolkien wouldn't have used it and I'm surprised they have.
I believe Hera is modeled after the greek goddess Hera. Hera here in anime form has wonderfully full and shapely breasts, and the goddess has the same. In fact, the Milky Way is purported to have been formed by milk spraying from her breasts when she pulled a child away after having bitten her nipple. Also, the pomegranate is an emblem of Hera-and pomegranates are a reference to breasts.
Helm Hammerhand
"he used no weapon no weapon would upon bite him"
The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A: Annals of the Kings and Rulers, II: The House of Eorl
Every time I see an eagle, I know Manwe is watching out for us😊
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THAT WAS A FAST REACTION TIME! 😳 Thanks for bringing us the videos with supersonic speed!
he's been chomping at the bit.😅
Kinda funny how the daughter has no name in lore but she is apparently the most badass warrior here lol
"Updated for modern audiences" my friend.
Yeah I noticed that too. I will be very surprised if the whole film isn't just girlboss stuff(especially given that Kamiyama seems to ONLY make heroine movies)
The Lore on this time is made like a historiography, not a novel. It's open to a lot of interpretation as a result.
Hopefully she is at least shown training and fighting from an early age, not just out of the blue. 😂
@@patrickleonard4187 Hera isn't even named in the lore. That's not a different interpretation, that's a complete invention for the movie. I don't mind good characters in adaptations that aren't 100% faithful to the lore, but this isn't to make her a better character. They're doing this so they can have a woman lead.
This will be the first LotR movie I get to see in theaters. I'm pretty pumped!
I hope it’s really epic for you! I am old enough to have seen all 3 of the originals in theatres multiple times. It was simply amazing. I haven’t had even close to the same experience since!
Same here, I am stocked too!
See if you can find one where people are going dressed up as LotR characters.
If it's your 1st LotR cinema trip. Do it in style. lol
I remember going to the fellowship of the ring in the cinema. We were 14 friends. We called ourselves the fellowship. 15 years old I was the youngest. We were such nerds. Only I'm still a nerd. The rest is all unhappy. So I'm OK 😂
If only there will be more non animated Middle Earth movies in theatre, life will surely strive again.
I don't mind Hera as a main character but am very worried it's going to come at a cost to some of the characters and story moments I wanted to see from the original story
I won't be going into this expecting much. So if it's actually good that will be a pleasant surprise.
Helm Hammerhand getting back-seated in his own story..
@@BeanDancing This 100%
From a story and narrative perspective it makes sense as the conflict does revolve around her. However it would be nice to see her play a role similar to Eowyn where she is important and matters a lot, but doesn't in the slightest overshadow Helm Hammerhand. I really hope this story maintains the Tolkien portrayal of strong women and not the modern Hollywood bs.
The movie is 2h30 long. I think they have plenty of time to explore everything there is in the writings and add more
Literally mentioned in one sentence, not even by name, and we get a whole movie about her and her long lost female warriors legion. Great.
Wulf telling the guy who just one-shotted his dad that he'll "pay for that with his life" is a bold proclamation
When you're a hammerhand, every dunlending looks like a nail.
Helm Hammerhand is RIGHT THERE. One of the coolest legendary figures in Middle Earth. The movie should be about him.
No! Strongk wahmen!
Not in today's woke environment. "Put a chick in it!" It's Mary Sue time.
It's like remaking LoTR and having it all about Frodo's sister, who does nothing but call Frodo stupid and Sam a coward whilst she is slaying legions of orcs on her own.
@@galactica0433 Frodo had no siblings. It should be Rosie Cotton (Sam's wife-to-be) rampaging through Mordor, wrestling Sauron to the ground...
@HrothgarTheSaxon That is a pretty good idea, expect Hollywood to pinch it for 2027 release.
I am intrigued, but very cautiously optimistic.
I don't really understand why you'd be cautiously optimistic? Anime projects are typically peak.
@@andy.jehoshaphat "Cautiously optimistic" is a politically correct word to say pessimistic so internet bastards feel safe and don't keep bothering over it
@@andy.jehoshaphat because of how the last lord of the rings project was its best to cautiosly optimistic
@@Eriksen-wp3tvaw dude shut up. Cautiously optimistic means willing to give it a chance. You're not Freud, stop trying to tell people what they're actually thinking and try listening for once
Wells Rings of Power didn’t exactly inspire love for the franchise and that’s the last LOTR content we got lol.
I must say that the first half of trailer was absolutely brilliant. However, then the focus shifted to Helms unnamed daughter who seems to be a main character and that really really worries me. I was hoping to see the story of legendary Hammerhand not his daughter who is going to be the best at everything.
Funnily so, lots of woke twitterites are pissed about how "sexualized" she is and how she doesn't reflect how "real women" look like.
This is what Phillipa Boyens wanted. And she gets what she wants, apparently.
Hard pass. Not paying for another lady punch movie....vote kamala but I'm done with lady punch.
@@mat3714will your wife and her boyfriend vote kamala too?
My assumption was that the Watcher In The Water -like creature we see isn’t THE Moria Watcher, but the species has had some creative license applied, and a previously unheard of cousin is presented as living somewhere down south in its own deep, dark lair. The tree apparently growing on it is a fun concept I feel like anime fans will particularly love! 💚
My assumption is that Philippa Boyens is going to set fire to the book in as many ways she possibly can.
@@reek4062 In a good way or a bad way?
@@25Erix book burning has never been good, so theres that
@@25Erix obviously in a bad way. When is destroying source material good?
@@25Erixobviously in a bad way
Imagine donig the story of hammerhand and instead they go with his unamed daugther as the main character... wild.
Is anybody wondering why her hair is red, when Rohirrim are known to have blonde hair, they were actually famously mocked by the Dunlendings for it, being called "Forgoil" meaning Strawheads!?
I'm just glad she's a ginger and they didn't make her POC cause "modernization"..😑
Ill take it.
Dad managed to kidnap a red headed slave when he was younger? Its pretty common for horse cultures to raid for women. And the more successful you are the more exotic and beautiful your bedwarmmers tend to be.
@@coreymckee4844 be careful saying "she"....maybe it's they/them
@@RelivingHistory1 🙄
@@coreymckee4844 Funnily so, lots of woke twitterites are pissed about how "sexualized" she is and how she doesn't reflect how "real women" look like.
"...got sucked in and watched the Pellenor charge in full..."
Well, who wouldn't?
"RIDE! RIDE NOW! RIDE TO RUIN AND THE WORLD'S ENDING! DEATH!!!"
One slight disappointment in the design, it looks like they did not take the opportunity to fix what was, imo, one of the only slight misgivings I had with Peter Jackson's design in the movies. That being the fact that none of the cities of men have any civilization beyond the walls of the city. It does make you wonder where the cities are getting their food and how much they can really be populated, etc. It feels less realistic without it and I wish they would make what seems to be a simple fix.
*Curious why they didn't focus on Helm or Hama, heck even Haleth (who we know a reasonable amount of, especially the former) instead of creating a virtually new character given we know nothing (not even a name) with his daughter? ~ We'd had created characters from Lurtz and Tauriel before, but never as a main character ~ Don't believe this was a wise decision, as it sets a dangerous precedent ~*
Because in this story, all three of them don't last long.
@@1993Warbirds helm basically lasts The Who story freyalaf would be the second best choice for mc since he becomes king after helm
@@1993Warbirds Why not male Freyalaf the MC then?
@@1993Warbirds Helm may not last the whole war, but he has a dope story, going full snow troll.
I just hope this isn't another one of those girl boss movies where she is the best at everything she does. Beating everyone and everything in everything that happens.
Don't worry, will be 100%. This looks terrible, self inflicted, could have been really cool, too bad, another one down.
@@astr0cat00as yes not like the girlboss moment of eowin killing the witch king and removing her helmet saying "I am no man".
@@EpicMania18 a little bit silly, but then again not the focus of the entire story and not the main hero of the entire story either. Who out does everyone else and is here to save the day. Along with their super secret made up super Amazonian superhero tribe of Greek mythology women warriors.
sorry to say it probably is since tolikens writings didn't even give her a name. se was only mentioned just to start the war by denying the marriage proposal. then she is never mentioned again.
Let hate strong women, like why can’t they just stay wives in the kitchen? 💔😩
I fear that Hera could easily overshadow the roles of her brothers and frealaf. I mean it's cool her character gets credit as it was not even really named in the books but i fear it could be too much, especially when the roles of other characters get downgraded for that purpose. I had hoped to see Helms family as equals, working together and not have the series focus on only one character. Also Heras clothes seem a little bit out of place. But I still hope for a cool dynamic between Frealaf and Hera.
Phillppa Boyens, the lead producer and one of the writers on Pete Jackson's movies has stated that Hera is the main protagonist. That she wanted a younger, new generation voice in this movie. Forget it being anything as good as the movies, this feels like another Woke disaster.
@@ukmediawarrior Meh, I would like to see a group dynamic like the fellowship of the rings. To introduce Hera as an important character is completely fine but have her be the only main protagonist is a bit weird. I mean the series is called War of the Rohirrim and not Legend of Hera or sth... I mean why not have Frealaf AND Hera be equal main characters? One dude one dudess? But the younger generations seem to consist only out of females nowadays?
@@ukmediawarrior Of course she did, that is always her thing. A shame they let her close to this movie.
So its cool that the clown writers retconned a non character in to the main character? Why cant feminoids come up with their own material?
Overshadow? She's the main character. This is going to be complete garbage, and you'll be lucky if her brothers aren't depicted as useless buffoons just to make her look better by contrast.
The Hammerhand section was great.
What is it with heroines climbing icy cliff faces? Was excited until I saw this and Hera saying she should be feared, gave off RoP vibes.
I hope her story is good, please give her actual adversity, don't just let her ride around Rohan solving everyone's problems.
According to the lore, there are also unnumbered lesser rings made before the three, seven, and nine. So it's quite plausible for the Rohirrim to have a lesser ring or two, perhaps from Scatha's hoard.
Doesn't Gandalf say something about lesser magical rings, not even in relation to shared creations by Sauron and Celebrimbor? It's why in The Hobbit his suspicion of Bilbo's ring is minor, even with the rewrite of The Hobbit after LOTR had been published
I'm wondering if the foul hand is a servant of Saruman, who has started taking an interest in lesser rings. That would actually be plausible in the canon.
@@telleroftheone Sure that could plausibly fit the timeline. But if that character was found out by the film's characters as a connection to Saruman, it would make his eventual betrayal 200 years later less logical. Rohan would have changed their relations with him if they learnt of his unhealthy interest and connections to Mordor, and that doesn't reflect the state of affairs by the time of the War of the Ring
It even has a "climb an icy mountain with blades" scene. What bigger red flag - assuming you even get past "replacing the hero with is daughter" - than a Rings of Prime copy does one need to drop this?^
The Girlboss of Hera doesn't give me much confidence in the overall strength of the story.
You have not seen what she has seen🤣
@@thompson4822 gold! 😂
Why? A woman wanting to fight even though everybody says she can’t is a great ground for a good story just look at The original trilogy and Eowin
@@Carlo_ReNews Eowyn is a real named character in the books, this one isn't. She doesn't do anything, she just happens to be his daughter who isn't even named. Centering the story on her driving the story makes this basically fan fiction.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn I don’t want to get into arguments about the word fan fiction here but they have the rights to the lord of the rings and thus can create new stories and characters. Would you call the Hobbit movies fan fiction because Tauriel isn’t in the books?
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I’m replaying Shadow of War and found an interesting connection to the short section of this trailer where an orc seems to be collecting rings.
In the Minas Ithil section of the game you find a Gondorian artifact that is a ring, and the narration accompanying it says,
“The orcs are obsessed with rings, more so than coins or jewelry of equal value. They snatch them from prisoners immediately, and what happens to these rings is anyone’s guess. We rarely find orcs actually wearing them.”
Thought it was interesting!
I’m mad they named her Hera which is derived from Greek and all the Rohirrim were clearly based off Norse and English peoples
that was honestly the first red flag when they started making announcements about the film. extremely lazy decision motivated solely because it's a recognizable "badass" female name from antiquity
Herra
Hera or Herra is of Finnish origin, so it's still Norse. It's a rather simple name, that can be traced to many cultures, so I wouldn't read too much into it. Helm is German, not Norse or English. But, given German history, ancient Germans colonized Scandinavia. You can just pretend they took Norse Hera/Herra and didn't even consider Greek Hera.
Herra is a Scandinavian name. Do you always spout off about stuff you dont anything about?
@@thegamescholarz6326 I have been scrolling online through the Icelandic and other Norse sagas, and Primary Russian Chronicle, and going through the books that I have on them. I cannot find the name Hera or Herra anywhere in them. It also doesn't seem to be a modern Dutch, English, German, or Scandanavian name. I believe it means a form of Mister in some German dialects. Can you direct me to the poems or sagas or name lists where it is English or Norse? I have always been under impression that it is Hellenic in origin. Thank you
Rey of Rohan…
Making it a little too much about Helms daughter instead of Helm himself. She was a footnote in the books quit trying to twist stories that are already written to fit the narrative.
I feel like we need a missing poster. Where is Frealaf? In the words of Pippin, "I didn't think it would end this way."
I'm assuming any comments critical of the show will be removed. I approve of your covert criticism.
Frealaf has a confirmed cast in the movie
Who is Frealaf?
@@hardworkingslacker7233 Potential spoilers…………Nephew of Helm Hammerhand, who is savior of Rohan in the story. He takes crown as 2nd line of kings and is Theodens direct ancestor.
@@roverboy006 Sounds like an important character.
Should he be in the film?
I had no idea this was happening! I was just thinking the other day how cool a cartoon of the Rangers of the North would be, maybe they can do a lot of these.
First couple mins of this gave me goosebumps. I can’t wait for this to drop in theaters! Amazing breakdown as always Matt!
Purely
This is like Power of the Rings TV series anime version…
Nice?
1% Tolkien 99% self invented fan fiction…
Huray!
Yes, i know that there are real character in here and at least this part of story is mentioned briefly in the books… But I have nagging feeling about this…
This is not fan fiction. In order to make fan fiction you need to be a fan first.
Don't forget plucking your nostalgia cord throwing Mumakil in there...
Just like Rings of Power throwing Fell Beasts on the screen when they weren't released for war until the Two Towers...
i am a little wary of this film but i doubt its going to be as bad as rings of power, literally nothing is as bad as that show
@@Nopeasaurus
I am not so sure… but hopefully you are right… they have to make a lot of fan fiction also in this take…
I’ve always thought that animation would be a great medium for Tolkien adaptations, and i would take that over a CGI heavy, marvel-esque blockbuster any day. However, i dont get why they decided to go with the anime aesthetic. I think a more western animation style would have suited the story much better. I gotta admit, this trailer looked way better than i expected, and now im pretty excited for the film.
When disguise used to try and slip the woke mind virus fails, its only logical to assume that the forces of evil would try other mediums.
I watch a lot of anime, and one thing that has really relieved me is how good the horses look. Usually in anime there's some weird, almost robotic thing going on with the horses. I'm glad that they got it right for a story set in Rohan.
nice catch! i didnt realize it but you are right, dem horsies look gudddd.
"I hope he isn't being pushed out of the picture here"
Is already out of the picture
If helm is a side character imma be so disappointed
Damn ain't nobody ask you tho
@@marshal8358 aint nobody ask you to reply either
I hope he is just so I can watch you incels seethe 😂
They were just making a point and starting up a conversation. No need to get your knickers in a twist! I’m the same, it’ll be a shame to sideline them.
@@marshal8358 Does someone need to be asked something to speak their mind? That's so childish lol
Wait -- what? I thought this was about Helm Hammerhand? Oh great...he got sidelined *facepalms*. On the other hand, this looks pretty cool.
Exactly my issue with it. People just can't stay faithful to anything these days.
@@Emilee_Johnston at least we get to see him kill Freca. At this rate, I am surprised they didn't give this moment to his daughter.
@@valentinkambushev4968 I am glad they still gave that moment to Helm. He was called Hammerhand for a reason *facepealms*
Wait, you’ve seen the film already? No? Only a trailer? Then please keep quiet until you’ve seen the film. Thanks!
@@BobbyM817 oh goodness -- this was not meant to be an insult. I said earlier it looked cool so I'm curious to see the end result.
i just finished the appendices for the first time last night, didn't know this was going to theaters, but the story of Helm was absolutely one of the standouts, so I will be there.
Warner Bros creating the character Hera is a major red flag. Her purpose is to deny agency to Hama and Haleth.
Not to mention her name is an insult to the professors naming convention, all of the Rohirrim names are based upon Olde Anglo-Saxon names. Theoden is King in Olde Anglo-Saxon. Hate to be the one to point it out, but Hera is from Ancient Greece.
This is going to be another bastardisation of Tolkiens work, another shameless cash grab.
The legendarium of Tolkien is not "content'"
Héra is an Anglo-Saxon word.
@paulmeahan3667 Are you sure about that?
Pretty sure the wife of Zeus predates the Anglo-Saxon.
@@galactica0433 You can just check your own copies of Bosworth Toller and Wright for yourself. You…you do own a copy of BT for yourself, yes? As a person who is keen to determine how Anglo-Saxon is used in contemporary media, I would imagine your copy is quite accessible.
damn, been waiting a full hour for this breakdown. ;) you're quick man!
Me too 😆
As an animator working on anime in Japan, seeing people (who are not really interested in animation nor the source material for LotR, i.e casual LotR movie watchers) in the western world react to the trailer with disdain, and little understanding for how animation work has been so saddening.
They don't understand that timing (how many frames a picture lasts for) is a part of the animation skills, and they purely think "high framerate means good animation" which is an opinion born from people playing videogames.
The designs are so incredibly detailed, that the amount of lines a person has to draw for one image is insane, and having to move those requires a huge amount of work. Which requires time, which anyone who knows the first thing about the anime industry, is not something animators are given.
I could talk about the animation and decisions done in this trailer for hours, but basically, the animators must've had such a hard time animating this, and seeing people who know nothing about animation speak as if it looks bad is so sad to see.
Glad to see that actual Tolkien fans seem to like what they're seeing though, and that their issues is not with the visuals, but more with the content of the story, which is totally fair. I do also have my reservations about it.
I am a westerner and the visuals are incredible. Better than what Disney does. I just hope they didn't create some super girl boss for this animation.
'Hera had a tempest in her. No one in middle-earth had seen what she had seen' - JRR Tolkien
She doesn't have a name in the books, so that quote can't be from JRR Tolkien.
@@Tiggsy2000I dont think u get the joke its supposed be a joke on guyladiriel from Rings of Power she says that due the absolute garbage the show is including there script 😂
@@Ranger_Halt Well if that's true then yip, it flew right over my head! 😅
@@Tiggsy2000 😂
Because of this movie, they played the LOTR trilogy at my local cinema. First time I ever got to see them in a cinema. It was truly epic is all I can say. A dream that finally came true.
I remember watching the two towers in theaters when it came out.. it was easily the best,most exciting movie I have ever seen in a theater. I was real young, but I remember when the urakhai were lined up outside of helms deep and started slamming their spears or whatever on the ground I was literally shaking from nervousness and excitement lol
@@trevorherbertson7281 That sounds amazing. Would have loved to see it for the first time back then. I was only like 2 though. But even today I'm still impressed with a lot of the practical effects. Plus with the surround sound, the Nazgul scream literally gave me chills. It just went right through you.
I was pretty excited for this but the trailer left me very disappointed - looks very much like yet another modern-age girl boss garbage. She's the most important, she's the last hope, she's everybody's savior, she's everywhere, does everything, beats everyone blah blah blah. The entire trailer was about her.
Yeah, she's such a Luke Skywalker, right?
Wait a minute. You're telling me a trailer mostly shows footage of the main character? What is this woke garbage?! Next you'll tell me John Wick is a movie about a man who is perfect at everything and is even named after the male lead? What DEI/woke/feminist trash.
But not a mary sue
@@carynw2625 Yup. I hate it
@@user-cb4kv3tr9x the problem is that she is the main character. Should've been Hammerhand.
Look, all I'm saying is that Helm being a Nazgul in SoW might make absolutely no sense, but I don't care, it was so stupid it was cool. Also, really glad we're getting some more fleshed out characters in this story. I've loved this tale since I watched your videos on it, and I am really hoping Helm gets inducted into the "Popular Lord of the Rings Characters" hall of fame!
When you said the director was responsible for a Little Nemo I got so excited!
If you see a 47 year old guy doing the Naruto Run to the theatre in December...that's me.
Can't believe how cool this looks. I love Anime, I watch it every single day, and I love Middle-Earth. Seeing this come together is a dream come true for me
To bad it doesn't fit Lord of the rings
@@A21-EDITS21how doesn’t it fit lord of the rings? what’s wrong with animation they can do more stuff that they couldn’t do in the movies not everything has to be life action
@@jeffakinleye1561 ignore bro. He’s a troll
@@jeffakinleye1561not the animation, im like the commenter I was a weeb before i am a middle earth fan, but I've read the hobbit, lord of the rings and the silmarillion.. I love animation if done well, there are many examples of animes movies/shows that doesn't feels like an "anime" when you're watching it, vampire hunter d, cowboy bebop, paprika, perfect blue, akira and many more, so i believe a middle earth animated medium would go soo hard if done right... But it's very worrying that a 2 pages long appendices can be a movie and the main character is an unamed one in the book while named and focused in the upcoming film.. I hope hera wouldn't be a copy paste of eowyn, that gonna be suck
@@A21-EDITS21 The very first movies of lord of the rings and the hobbit in the 70s were literally animated. How does it not fit ?
Anything lord of the rings related gets me exhilarated, I’m glad to be seeing something new came out
As long as it is true to the canon
@@sectureverothoughtcriminal7734 Saddly this won't be. Evil can't create.
This is beautiful. When seeing the live action images I have the theory that Miranda Otto will not only be the narrator of this story but at the beginning or end we will see Eowen in a transition identical to the one we see in the trailer. Greetings from Porto Portugal.
That'd be REALLY cool. Would love it!
The anime look for LOTR looks great honestly I can't wait to see. Just breathtaking to be back into the world of Middle Earth whether that will be past stories or future stories I'm soo happy. I really hope that War of the Rohirrim will be a huge success that we can get other movies telling other various stories of Middle Earth. Like maybe a second age film all the way to the Last Alliance or other events during the War of the Ring like in Erebor or anywhere else or just other events in Middle Earth's history. Overall I'm very excited for the movie and can't wait to follow the story of the Rohirrim.
I'm glad that the people behind this honor the costumes of the Jackson films, they keep it familiar based on what the audience already knows. Furthermore, it is SO cool that this is in anime style. I'm confident that Kenji Kamiyama has what it takes to not only direct this story, but hopefully others in the future, very excited to see this. Also is their anything related to the music in the background from the trailer? Is it still Howard Shore? Or someone different?
Love the anime part, beyond disappointed in the twist of not making it about Helm the Hammerhand and instead about an unnamed daughter. This is another girl boss presentation that is beyond exhaustive in 2024. Incredibly disappointed.
Anime is the wrong choice.
Welcome to 2024😂😂😂😂
It is about a girlboss who don't want to get marry😂😂
Oh Jesus.....guess I won't be watching
@@A21-EDITS21 waaah waaah
If, after Helm Hammerhand dies, Hera is the hero that proceeds to get the victory, instead of his nephew Fréaláf, this is another DEI incentivized change that will be forced down our collective throats.
I hope that I am wrong though.
@@MrRoSSoS2 I get the nasty feeling you hit the nail on the head.
100% don't worry she will save everyone and everything and be the super hero lady none of us knew we needed, don't you worry...
The Chick of the Rohirrim
I have a feeling you don’t get taken seriously by women in real life so you project your insecurities in weird little ways like being mad about women or black folk 😂
@@TF-vb9us Nobody mentioned women or black folk. We were talking about specifically Hera and other characters of Middle-Earth.
I guess you are the one that projects insecurities. That's a victim's mentality and I suggest you to speak with a professional, so that you may become again a productive member of the society and be of benefit to the rest of the world.
As someone who's a big fan of Tolkien AND anime, I'm super excited that the two are combined! Hopefully these horses are better than Attack on Titan horse charge scenes because yeeessh those were rough. It's really cool to see the LotR movie set design, especially of the Golden Hall, in an animated form. I've seen so many comments around from people saying they're not into anime so they're not into this. And that's just... so narrow minded and disappointing.
That said, this was not the direction I expected the story going so I still have to be sold on that. 😂 I'm sold visually, just not editorially yet.
To bad Anime is the wrong animation choice.
@@A21-EDITS21 boo boo
@@A21-EDITS21 That comment doesn’t even make sense. “Anime” literally means “animation”; it’s a medium, not a genre.
I am from Germany and I hope the movie release is around the world at the same time to share the experience and I be to all the gods they are that they will offer the Lord of the Rings trilogy in theatres. That would be soooo awesome. Thank you so much for your content and now I am off for your Helm Hammerhand and Haleth video.
Not a fan of the animation tbh, it looks more like a tv show than a movie
Based on the trailer... *SIGH*
If you're going the adapt the work of an author, especially a great one, at least have the sensitivity and humility to do so as faithfully as you reasonably can.
It's almost certainly the case you don't have the talent to make sweeping changes for the better, especially if you possess the hubris to try.
Nothing says 2024 like adapting someone else's work and making the main character someone the original author didn't bother to name. "You could rule the world"? This channel catches every detail of everything in trailers and ignores that line? Wonder why?
"And well... whatever you call Shadow of War." was so funny to me! I'm excited for this film, but hesitant nonetheless.
Shadow of War, Rings of Power...this...all fanfics that veer away from the essence of the stories of Tolkien :). By the way I'm still not much liking the title...War of the Rohirrim...it's so generic...I mean Rohirrim had numerous wars :) they should have used something of the Long Winter aspect into the title :).
@@fantasywind3923 Tell me, do you hate the Peter Jackson films and call them "fanficiton?" They deviate a good amount from the writings of Tolkien, after all.
Or is that you just want the franchise to be forever stagnate and for there to never be any new stories set in this universe?
@@tylerleach8796 there's a clear distinction between an 'adaptation' (and the measure in how it is faithful to source material or not) and a mostly original story using some elements of lore! Seriously...it's not too tough to understand that! In any case I am NOT one of those types who would just accept anything just because it's more content in that universe....no either do it right OR NOT AT ALL! Hobbit films were bad adpatations, and way worse than the previous trilogy...and it seems the dramatic change in quality was a warning of things to come!
@@fantasywind3923 Considering you scoffed at the idea of ANY new stories in Middle Earth that aren't ripped straight from Tolkien's writings, it seems the only way you think to "do it right" is to just one-for-one adapt what Tolkien wrote and literally nothing else. Sorry that most people prefer to actually see if the story is good or not instead being like you and calling it bad right away for asinine reasons.
@@tylerleach8796 stop whining mr and just stop to think a little...they can do their fanfic stories in video games (if they at leas won't butcher the worldbuilding or contradicth the lore too much unlike these Shadow of Mordor/War games) that would make sense but making a film/tv show etc. and call it Tolkien when it's not even HIS story......I don't give a damn how you call it...asinine...I call it reality all too often the original ideas clash with Tolkien's creative vision.
It could be an amazing animated film with a self-contained story about Rohan's past. It could be a strange fanfiction with a hamfisted female lead and an equally hamfisted connection to "rings". I really, really hope it's the former rather than the latter. 😅
It is something how studios advertise to different cultures. This trailer compared to the Japanese trailer has a completely different vibe
7:28 What a beautiful shot btw
Bro they got the chance to make a movie about Helm Hammerhand and they made one about Hera AAHAHHAHAHHAHAH
This 100% - Don´t they see we have been forcefed Strong Masculine Female Heroines, and have noe appetite for it? Give us real men and real women.
100%, terrible misstep but not unexpected. I predict RoP 2.0, trash to the core.
I mean, it’s anime. A hot sword fighting fantasy waifu is like honey to otakus.
@@isakditlefsen4197she is a real woman. Or is Eowyn a man to?
@@oXRaptorzXothese whiners can’t get women to talk to them in real life and it shows 😂
Héra??? In Tolkien's texts, Helm Hammerhand's daughter is barely even mentioned, she's not even named, and there are no actions or events of significance to where she is included. She is _that_ inconsequential to the actual story that Tolkien didn't even bother to name her.
Why not focus on actual relevant characters such as Helm's nephew Frealaf? You know the guy who actually came and defeated the Dunlendings after Helm's and his two son's deaths? Thus saving the kingdom and was named King. Why not follow and focus on him?
What we're obviously getting here is yet another predictable feminization of Tolkien's work. For those of you who enjoy shallow fanfiction, I guess this is the film for you.
18:31 If you look in Frealaf's left hand, he's holding Helm's crown.
Imagine hype if only second half of the trailer be about truly important characters of the story
Every part of this looks incredible. With the freedom you get from animation (no costly practical effects or ugly CGI needed), I have absolute faith in Jackson.
peter jackson is not involved. at all.
It looks terrible, what did you watch?
ehg, the hand drawn animation looks great but some of the CG looks pretty distractingly ugly
@MX-kw3tm Bro he's an executive producer lol what are you talking about
@@nathanwatt5545 dude, he barely had any involvement and then they stick his name right at the front to trick people.
I like this trailer tbh its not that bad and its good to see LOTR back in animation for those who are too young or too old OR TOO WOKE. Remember there was a cartoon of these before so why hate? personally I like it and it does look promising. Better than ROP Season 1 so for me...YES i will support this and look forward to it. For those hating? move on with your life you going to see these types for years to come.
I Will still give it a chance and i dont wanna be a hater but Damm i feel this looks so bad… hope the movie proces me wrong when it comes out! Will always give stuff a fair chance
Looks like the Dundlings are having Pictish/celtic like lore with the Blue face paint. Kinda cool. This looks like it's gonna be awesome
You don't want to get into a punching fight against Helm HAMMERHAND.
I think the animation looks great. The music is great as well. Both suit Lord of the Rings imo. I am excited for the War of the Rohirrim this December. Forth Eorlingas! 🌾 🐎💚
Modern progressive filmmakers cannot successfully bring Tolkien to the screen anymore, because Tolkien's work is inherently anti-progressive. It is so deeply rooted in Christianity and ancient myths of heroic ages long past, that any attempt to make it "progressive" (as these filmmakers cannot help but attempt to do) erases everything that made Tolkien's works what they are.
"inherently anti-progressive."
Might wanna lay off the copium, buddy. Addiction to that stuff is serious.
Stop being so scared. Nothing's being erased. The books will still be there.
Is not 2022 anymore. Move it along.
It’s also a total sausage fest. Tolkien was a latent homosexual with an obvious obsession with men.
@@belegcuthalion3751 Nothing's being erased. Just rewritten for smooth brains who need to be told the message about strong wahmen.
Mary Sue vol.312. Cant wait
The captions on the official trailer shows the name of the character with the bag of rings as Rot.
One thanks for the heads up on what looks to be a very good movie based on the LOTR books ! I'm definitely putting this one on my list, and though it's 2.5 hours long ; it doesn't matter to me ! If it does well enough in the box office returns , hopefully there's more to come from this director , his animators , and a talented voice cast ! 😊
this is woke trash, how do you have 4 writers with little to no experience write a movie about a character that literally had no name in the books, and ends up diminishing a fan favorite eowyn in the process, who thought it was a good idea to ignore helm hammerhand as the main character to focus on his unnamed daughter?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? you know why some characters go unnamed? because they did nothing of any importance, lol oh well not like rings of power is good either, RIP lord of the rings you have now joined star wars, marvel, and DC in the woke pile no one will watch.
Really love this community where you cannot even imply that a WWI vet really didn't know how to write female characters that well and that maybe this nearly 100 year old work could use some updates. Truly remarkable. Good work everyone.
I love rohan my favorite faction
Trying to sell us Rings of power through anime wont work.
once i saw that trailer i thought of you and came here immediately. cause the story seemed unfamiliar to me. thank you. i love you and your vids ❤️
I'm so excited for this film, both because going back to Middle-Earth is like going back home and because this story is one of my favourites that isn't Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit.
@@lukebaxter3252 Too bad, this doesn't feel like Middle Earth at all.
@@valentinkambushev4968 Then what does it feel like? You don't get to say that and not propose a counter.
@@1993Warbirds it feels like the Vinland Saga.
@@valentinkambushev4968 Well didn't Tolkien take some inspiration from norse stuff?
Rings of power season 2 is coming out soon so get to return to middle earth early.
So a film telling Helms story doesnt have him as the main character but his no name daughter. Yep I can already tell how this is going to go.
It’s gonna trigger the incels into a hissy fit 😂
@@TF-vb9us Why? Because they want this story to stay true to the lore? Why make the focus of the film a female character who is so insignificant she doesn’t even have a name, over Helm Hammerhand, or Frealaf you know the actual hero’s of this story?
Hey nerd of the rings! Do you think they’ll actually stick to the cannon on this one? Or toss it to the wind like rings of power?
It’s more woke trash with a girl boss as the main character
*canon
The trailer already has a bunch of made up crap in it.
You are the master reviewer for the lore of Lord of the Rings 💯
1) she's an unamed character. That's how unimportant she is in the lore.
2) They named her Hera, a greek name. Tolkien paid A LOT of attention to language, and choose names carefully. The Rohirrim have NOTHING to do with greece or their language.
3) Eowyn was an exception, and even so the idea behind her character was finding purpose and coming to terms with her intrinsic nature, which is feminine, which is why she marries Faramir and becomes a housewife. If the message behind her was "look women can be warriors too" she would have become a knight and lead gondorian armies along with Faramir. Acting as a warrior in times of need and BEING a warrior are two ontologicaly different things, a point that many people miss about her character.
Hera being a warrior princess goes against Tolkien's morality and view on women in positions of power.
Stop compromising you brainless consumers.
does anyone think the anime style is fking weird as a western fantasy especially lotr
Yeah. I personally consider it weird as well especially as LOTR fanbase has a variegated demography. Older audiences (that aren’t an anime fan) might struggle to be tuned in to the movie. A 3D anime might have had a wider appeal.
Absolute chills.
I had chills when watching the pinball machine scene in The Accused
This looks awesome! I have not been this hyped for Lord of the Rings in years!
What a fantastic review. Your observations are eagle eyed and your thoughts are omniscient. Thank you for making us all smarter about how well these creators did in recreating this world.