In the next episode Orc Kid goes to school and gets bullied by other orc boys. Needless to say, Orc Dad and Orc Mom hold a meeting with Orc Principal. People are getting paid for this sh&t
So many of the choices made in this show are extremely strong indications that the people who created it DONT EVEN KNOW what LOTR is, what it's about, what it's themes are, what it's trying to say about people and the world and the nature of evil and the nature of our hearts. There is almost a willful disregard for Tolkien's themes.
Like the touching scene with the marginalised victim orc family. That one was so repulsive it turned my stomach. A truly offensive desecration of Tolkien's work.
Budweiser, The Acolyte, and now The Rings of Power all epic failures by the "woke feminists" of America. People that don't have good taste, or know what it is to create high quality material if it even hit them upside the head. Terrible business managers so stupid their "Agenda" and incompetence comes before profits, the shareholders and customers of the company. People you cannot even trust to babysit your children have now found themselves in positions of power thanks to DEI, and all failing miserably. You go girls! lol
Sauron is supposed to be pure evil, pure hatred. But this show asks, what if maybe he had a sneaky little crush on Galadrial(who's supposed to be married anyways). Great work guys
Looking past the obvious crimes against lore, worldbuilding, and plot consistency, the thing that strikes me the most is that all the characters speak in generic cringeworthy metaphors. It comes across as a pretentious teenager's idea of profound dialogue, and there's basically no regard for each character's -- well, character and cultural background. They all speak in the same manner. The writers obviously have no idea how to write believable fantasy dialogue (or perhaps dialogue in general).
They don't have to be good writers to get a job on the most expensive show of all time. They just had to say the right things and hire actors with the right skin colour and then brag and lecture the whole world about it like the insufferable ideologues they are. Their pretentious, shallow dialogue mirrors the pretentiousness and shallowness of their ideology.
Tolkien Writing Gandalf: "Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least." Rings of Power Writing Gandalf: "IM GOOD."
It's like the show is a perpetual parody of itself. The metaphors are so hilariously cringeworthy that I can't believe they wrote that stuff sincerely.
Orcs having humanity is the only proof you need, from this entire show, that the showrunners and writers have absolutely no understanding of Tolkien's legendarium. I once had a period in my life where I read the entire series at least once every year, the orcs are the absolute corruption of beauty and good. That is their entire point. They are not grey on a scale of black to white, they are black.
Tolkien was a devout Catholic who presented the first orcs as fallen elves or elves who chose to be corrupted or were forcibly corrupted. I don't remember reading anything in-depth about how that took place. Given Tolkien's beliefs, I have to disagree that orcs represent absolute corruption. Only the corruption of fallen souls, which is reversible in Christian dogma.
Somehow even making a joking about something absurd and dumb they would do is giving them too much credit. You've put more thought into your throwaway youtube comment section joke than they did into their billion dollar TV series.
i was under the impression that the clowns who wrote this horse manure can't even tell the difference between Lord of the Rings and World of Warcraft. what a load of ass.
I like how the writers forgot that even before he created the rings, he could wipe out an entire army of orcs with his sorcery, Sauron was a lieutenant of Morgoth, a Maia, he’s freaking powerful. Why did they make him get defeated like a bitch to an army of orcs?
Yeah Before they killed him when he was talking I was thinking why does this dude seem so pathetic? Like this is souron? Seemed like half the orc army in there didn’t even respect him lol. Like the dude wasn’t scary at all.
"Commodified fantasy takes no risks: it invents nothing, but imitates and trivializes. It proceeds by depriving the old stories of their intellectual and ethical complexity, turning their action to violence, their actors to dolls, and their truth-telling to sentimental platitude. Heroes brandish their swords, lasers, wands, as mechanically as combine harvesters, reaping profits. Profoundly disturbing moral choices are sanitized, made cute, made safe. The passionately conceived idea of the great storytellers are copied, stereotyped, reduced to toys, molded in bright-colored plastic, advertised, sold, broken, junked, replaceable, interchangeable." -Ursula K. LeGuin
After trying to publish 3 novels let me just tell you, the industry WANTS the bland shit. I know loads of young people who write amazingly fresh stories with compelling characters, and we're all struggling to get it out there. Criticism includes that books MUST be short, simple, and easy to follow. Wish me luck because after 2 years of being told "young people won't read something with historical accuracy", I'm close to just uploading 500k words as a webnovel because at least that gets it out there. This industry is straight up brain rot, and young artists, be it painters, musicians and writers, are really struggling to get the novel and fresh things out there. The industry is very openly rejecting it.
Sit and sip iced tea, while they set up cameras, lights, props and powder your face, then pretend to fight, sit and sip while they reset. Sounds scary to me.
Wait wait wait ... do you mean counselling as in ... emotional support/therapy? Not, as in, 'I want someone to help me improve my moves, or work out to be able to sell the physicality' ...
@@givmi_more_w9251I think he’s talking about the lead saying she underwent a sort of ”exposure therapy” (even though I wouldn’t call it that at all), so she wouldn’t automaticaly flinch everytime someone yelled at her. I believe it was because she was easily scared aswell as the roles she usually plays are more soft spoken and vulnerable characters, so she had to rethink how to react, if I remember correctly. So it isn’t as bad as that guy made it sound, but it’s still awkward that it was needed, and written about, so much.
LOTR and Dune contrast each other so perfectly, if I may oversimplify: Frank Herbert thrived in a moral grey area, but Tolkien had a great divide between pure good and evil. In both stories, it worked well. This show is like a shit fan fiction "what if" these authors switched places and it would make both stories suck.. as we see here. (and I hate giving the showrunners as much credit as this implies, but you get my point. There's no "Frank Herbert" writing this garbage)
Most fan fiction writers think "I write, therefore I'm an author and writer". At one time being a writer or author meant your work was at least accepted by a publisher, but now it just means you self-publish on Amazon or post on Discord and have other sweaty people who can't get a date IRL lusting after some characters. So yeah, this is like a Galadriel/Sauron fan fic because those people also love to ship the least likely characters as well.
@@HotaruGlaive I do dabble in writing fan fiction, but it's mostly a 'oh my God, i hated this aspect of the story, it made no sense to me , I want to reimagine it.' Or 'I like that part, I want to expand on it.' It's an autistic, low-maintenance pasttime that gives me a bit of joy, nothing serious (and which I only engage in if I really care about the work. Which are like ... one or two.). And since English is my second language, writing such stuff in English helps expand my vocabulary and learn how to phrase stuff properly ... or at least, less awkwardly. NEVER EVER would I dare call myself a writer. And I wouldn't dream of publishing my amateurish BS anywhere. I also don't read fan fiction very much, but I avoid fandoms like they are nuclear accident sites. Too much reeing, shilling, and shipping wars ... it sucks the enjoyment right out of it for me. I don't say this as a 'noT aLl faN fICtIoN writErS', just to underline your point how insulting and ridiculous it is for those numbskulls who 'publish' their 'works' into a circlejerking discord/website to call themselves authors. In regards to shipping, yeah. At best, it's a 'dude, those two are so incompatible and have ZERO chemistry, why would you fantasise them being together? ' That sounds exhausting, constantly blocking out the obvious cues that they have NOTHING romantic between them, or frantically clinging to any interaction that shows the characters standing a centimetre closer to each other than normal. Guess I'm lazy, but well-written canon couples (with meaningful romance that serves the story) are so much more enjoyable than constantly trying to justify your oNe tRUe paIrINg. Also, not every story needs romance. I find it bizarre coupling characters in everything you see, and I say this who is a sucker for a good love story. (Lack of Y-chromosome, can't help it.) I heard that some actual authors have retconned their characters into siblings to stop the shipping and bring the focus back onto that what matters, the plot, the themes ... without success, of course. I find that so sad that authors, who certainly care deeply about their work, find themselves forced to change something to stop people defiling it... or stop people ATTACKING them online for not including their totes valid gay romance between those two mortal enemies...
A key element of why both work is because the writers created their world to support their stories. Middle Earth is a fairly black and white realm where Tolkiens ideas of good and evil are tangible forces of nature, woven into the fabric of the world building from the very start. Likewise Herbert created a universe of stagnation and treachery to fit his narrative This is why you basically can't tell the story this show it trying to tell, because the world of Tolkien doesn't function if good and evil are 'subjective', it simply does not fit. Likewise if you tried to tell a fairly standard heroes journey tale within Dune, it would quickly hit a brick wall because that universe is engineered to make such things impossible. You have to break the foundations of either setting to tell these stories
@@HotaruGlaive Admittedly, if they write, they're a writer. If they are a writer and they publish their work, then they're an author. That doesn't mean they're a _good_ one, or even are familiar at all with the nuances of the craft. Same with people who self-publish. They could be excellent or terrible. We shouldn't overgeneralize all writers here just because Amazon is scraping below the bottom of the barrel. Speaking as someone who writes and has studied writing for 40+ years.
If i was a relative of JRR with ANY respect for his work, Simon would be banned from all family events. This guy is TRULY worse than the showrunners. He is a hack who is so bitter for not being 1/1000 of what his grandfather was as a writer, that he is determined to destroy his legacy just to feel better about his talentless self. Christopher would f'in roll in his grave if he knew what his son is doing to his father's work.
Would love to use the lasso of truth on the writers to see why they’ve made such awful decisions and then blamed fans, but they’re probably actually convinced they are in the right
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they think it's brilliant, because they are morons
Oh they know their stories and characters are garbage, that's why they had to graft the Lord of Rings franchise onto it. Otherwise nobody would agree to make their show.
They're ideologues. They are talentless hacks who care more about promoting their twisted "diversity" ideology than they do about being outstanding writers and crafting meaningful, quality, emotionally truthful stories that resonate with people.
I sa2 an article from some Gen Z child saying they never cared about LOTR. Never read the books, didn't grow up with the movies and THIS made them appreciate it 🙄 because they "now know the backstory." I don't know what disgusts me the most, them thinking this is a backstory, or the decision to publish an opinion from someone without a shred of a clue of what they're talking about
agree with @@alexreidzero1357. besides, the show is shit not because it disrespects the source material, it's just worthless shit in itself, and the only reason some people have watched it is, in my mind, because of gen Y nostalgia towards LOTR, and need to cling to that feeling for the good old.
At the end of Peter Jackson’s last Hobbit movie, accompanying the credits, the audience was treated to a gallery of gorgeous sketches of landscapes, architecture, characters and costumes. These included design drawings of the ring, exquisitely rendered, Elven inscriptions and all, faithful to Tolkien’s description of this awesome yet far from ornate object at the center of an epic tale. By contrast, Amazon brings us Elven “rings of power” which look like they emerged from a plastic egg that came out of a gumball machine. Perhaps they were ordered from a cosplay accessory vender on Amazon. The word “cheesy” barely scratches the surface. First, Halibrand has to inform the Elve’s master metal-smith that metals can be alloyed, something he has obviously never heard of. Then Dumblebimbobor , needing only the finest Elven gold and silver to mix with his irreplaceable mithril sample, smelts Galadriel’s brother’s knife, and the steel blade melts at the same temperature as the precious metals of the handle. We now have to assume that the finest Elven blades were made from inferior brittle carbon steel (which still melts at a higher temperature than soft metals), while the swords of the men from the Southland have been alloyed with nickel as Halibrand mentioned, so as to make them tough and hold an edge when tempered. Clearly the men from the Southland were superior metallurgists to the primitive, less sophisticated Elves. Who knew(?), surely not Tolkien. The mthril, so touchy and unstable that it has already blown up the furnace once, is carefully added to the melt by pulling the lump of unrefined ore out of a pouch and tossing it in the crucible, no drying or preheating, with no ill effect. The pour is not carried to the mold to keep it as hot and liquid as possible, but flows down a split stream along long, curving troughs for some reason. We see the tongs of the craftsman twisting silver wires to form one of the rings, a process which has nothing to do with smelting as wires are drawn, not cast. Not too surprising then that the silver wire ring is a different color than the two super-bowl rings, as it is obviously made from a different (non-magical) alloy. Although the chunky zircon on top does have a certain Disney princess “charm” all its own. Critics have pointed out that the Amazon writers don't have copyrights to Gandalf, Hobbits, etc. Hence the nameless "not Gandalf" wizard and proto-hobbit “club-foots” or what have you. I'm guessing the ring designs are also copyrighted. I'm glad those guys from Jackson’s crew are still working and I wonder if they are cringing like much of the audience is.
I don’t care if the actors are white black or green, the problem is that the show is HORRIBLE, everything, the acting, the story, the clothes, the dialogue, trying so hard to be poetically but is just garbage, is suck a butchering of the lore.
As someone who was born in 2001, i think If these shows had been made in the 80s and 90s, I guarantee the VHS tapes would be burned after people watched them because they were so bad. People know bad writing and poor storytelling when they see it
@@chasehedges6775 it has to first be considered storytelling to even be considered bad storytelling. This was just a series of scenarios where characters had meaningless conversations.
@@dodywidodo9433 exactly, by trying to be diverse and attracting a "bigger" audience, both shows have crapped on their foundations legacies by being almost the opposite of the world's they belong to. In turn the long term fans of both franchises get treated as if we don't exist anymore. There have literally been hundreds of millions of dollars spent between both of these shows, for what? Trash, absolutely garbage that will taint both franchises. Well done Amazon and Disney. Amazon should stick to online shopping and Disney...they need to look at themselves in the mirror hard. But they might be too far gone.
oh lord is that a question.... you want to lose your mind laughing? go actually look up who Rotten Tomatoes considers a professional critic just to pad these numbers. like, we're talking actual hobby bloggers here, some of who actually get away with reviewing it twice. It's hilarious how desperate Amazon has gotten to hide this embarrassment.
1. Rotten tomatoes doesn't seem to be as trustworthy as it used to be. It is likely accepting payments to manipulate the numbers by filtering critics based on goal rating. 2. The film companies have filtered out genuine film reviewers by not providing early review copies to critics who have criticised their tentpoles in the past. So, new critics don't want to risk giving a negative review for fear of being blacklisted which would be a career-ender more or less. 3. Even the critics who should have no fear, like those from the big media houses, are not as good as they used to be. Just like scriptwriters and filmmakers are no longer as good as they used to be, actually. I am starting to think this whole generation, my generation, sucks. The next generation is no better. Shall we put our hopes on the next next generation, boys and girls still in high school right now? Probably not. Maybe the ones that are in preschool right now will be better. I wonder if our generation got ruined by the arrival of smart phones and social media at the wrong time in our growth. 4. Rotten tomatoes ratings for TV shows sucked worse than those for films to begin with. TV show critics were tiers below film critics even a decade ago. It may have got worse.
You sound like you want to search for the opinion that its bad. But you'll also find the opinion that is good. You're in a bad vicious cycle of looking for validating things are bad without having your own opinion on it
Elindel looks like he’s wearing a stylized hoodie with graphic armour printed on it with some sweat pants. The costumes are so incredibly bad it’s pathetic.
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G royally screws up her crusade to get sauron, ends up actually helping him, then lets him walk off, and not only does she not do anything about it, she conceals his presence. And when all this is revealed to the high king, he does absolutely nothing. G is a moron, a coward and a traitor, and gil galad is a simp. what a show.
It's even worse than that because in season 1, Sauron expresses a genuine desire to put the life of evil behind him. I know in Tolkien's lore, he is evil itself and would never give up evil because it's his nature, but the SHOW contradicts that so I'm pulling from what they showed us. Sauron wants to settle in Numenor and become a smith and even resists Strong Woman™ when she tries to persuade him to fight alongside her for the fate of the Southlands. He tells her no multiple times and says he's happy to become a smith and settle down. She circumvents him by getting the queen regent to order him to help by LYING and making up a story in her own mind about him being the rightful king of the Southlands even though he TOLD HER EXPLICITLY that he took the trinket off a dead man. So he goes off to battle and gets a taste for power again and even gets an appetite for revenge when he confronts Adar. All of this causes him to relapse into the old Sauron and become evil again. Season 2 is essentially the writers' attempt to retcon Strong Woman™ being a villain to try and make it seem like Halbrand was acting shady all along. tl;dr Strong Woman™ is like that one "friend" who convinces a recovering alcoholic to drink again, leading them to causing a fatal 5-car accident on the highway.
@@LegendaryDorkKnight No, the intro to the first episode of season 2 literally confirms that Strong Woman is the only reason he goes back to his evil ways. If she hadnt jumped off a boat and randomly met him in the middle of the ocean he wouldve probably just ended up chilling in Numenor. This is the canon of the show lmao.
to be fair Tolkien himself went back and forth on the orcs many times, he dropped the ideas of them being tortured elves or cut from the ground , he decided they should be capable of redemption , but to portray them as having human like family units is the laziest form of bs subversion.
Holy shit they’re committed to 5 seasons?!? That’s wild best options they have to to pretend the first 2 seasons didn’t exist and reboot the entire series.
They really should've just got Peter Jackson to direct this. The Hobbit might have tripped all over itself but it still felt like Middle-earth, this doesn't. It feels like a pale imitation of it.
You're assuming their intention wasn't to put out propaganda slop, all along. They just expected everyone to seal clap, not ask questions, consume product then get excited for next product.
Season 2 is shit and the sky is blue. What else is new. And my god, the elves look like stereotypical fairies instead of the noble badasses they were in the movies.
I can't believe I'm about to say this, but one thing the Acolyte had going for it is it felt like a story the creators actually wanted to tell. Rings of Power is so muddled, coincidental and dispassionate it feels like the writers are just going through the motions, they have nothing they want to explore or really dig into, they're just kinda being paid to do a job (badly).
Thanks Movie Cynic for ripping this a new one, it felt good 😂 I really like how you said “not Gandalf Gandalf, not hobbit hobbit, not Sauron Sauron” - it’s a very poignant observation. This is the “Not Lord of the Rings Lord of the Rings”show. It’s time to cancel my Prime subscription 😂
I'm just so disapointed... How can it look so cheap? Why does every humanoid community look more diverse than NY metro station? Why the dwarves look so weak/skinny (excluding Disa)? How they can't afford more top actors than first Adar (who left the show almost immediately). What is this writing?? ? WHERE IS THE MONEY BEING SPENT??
I tried episode 1... And I didn't even get through it. Was so badly done that it lost my attention about 20 mins in... And I will watch some of the worst barbarian movies from the 80s. That really says something.
i guess they shot saison 1 and when they made it to E8 with not a second on making the name giving "Rings of Power" and realizing, damn, we do not even have the ring props, the showrunners just said "well, what about a Pizza for lunch, maybe, we get an inspiration for our problem..."
My favorite part about this video is where you say "I know you're not watching it, so I'll watch it for you" as i'm going "wait there was a first season already?"
All the dialogue in the first season was bad. The thing is, the actor that played Elrond, the actors that played young and old Durin, and the actor that played Diza, did everything possible to polish that turd, and making those scenes enjoyable through the sheer force of their charisma. They deserve to be in a better show than this.
Apart from what Galadriel says and does (all that sh**t romance with Sauron) her facial expressions are just awful, i get this so awkward feeling when the camera zooms onto her face and she is supposed to have an angry, sometimes really intense face or moment. But it is all the same. She pinches her lips together and speaks like she is in Pain. Why even give the role to someone who can't even act properly??? What did they see in her???? She always gives that feeling "Oh I am better than these men". Galadriel I heard on YT (I have not read the whole book yet) that she in books was not in love with Sauron or have any attraction toward him. These shitty people have ruined it. Why they could not cast a normal girl, who doesn't give the feeling "I am better than these men" story is as told in books, she is more powerful than men, and she is the most important figure. I am 100% certain they will show that man accidentally killed Sauron because some female could not land a death blow. Why do strong women characters come at the cost of men being si***es??? Men are powerful but women are more powerful you can show that way and they don't have that air about them "I am better" I love Galadriel's entry in the Movie, she is so powerful yet doesn't have that air about her. She rescues the powerful wizard without him evil can't be defeated and she saves that man from the stronghold of evil. This is a strong woman and her acting skills are I don't have to mention she is professional. but what do we see today??? In every role, women are ahead and forcefully not naturally and all men are just dummies.
The Orcs are good dudes just trying to support their wives and children. War is the "last thing" an Orc wants and Tolkien did a great job hammering that fact home within his writings
next Amazon project: Reboot of Schindler's List with Schindler being an evil slave owner and the Nazis the misunderstood people, who only want to better the lifes of all those around them...
@@cappy2282 not as mindless as in "no survival instinct" as Tolkien writes about orcs fleeing when outnumbered or loosing almost every battle they are in. And he also writes them as broken and corrupted, under the lash of the pure evil mastermind of Morgoth and almost equally evil Sauron, but they follw those two mostly out of awe and fear, not some fanatism...
It’s like I have a sister 10 yrs younger trying to explain the movies I made her watch while mom and dad went out to dinner and she only has 10 minutes to explain what we watched
1:43 They aren't ass movies. And yes, it DOES like to reference them. Leave Sauron to me / Leave Saruman to me During going "he never mentioned you" is a copy of Thorin going "He hever mentioned you" And so forth....
This isn't close to their worst sin. Obviously elves are not black in the books, but every movie is doing this with the IP (e.g. little mermaid, snow white, etc.). To me, that's a losing battle not worth fighting. But, the narrative choices for Galadriel (rebellious and impulsive), Sauron (got defeated so easily by adar) , the sympathetic orcs, etc. are inexcusable. That is taking a crap on the lore.
@@goodputin4324 the better question is why is Discount Legolas even in this show. The Silvan Elves very pointedly had nothing to do with the wars of the Noldorim against Sauron, and they're the ones who like bows. The Noldor tended to prefer heavy armor and swords, not what looks like bark and trickshot bows.... so yeah, the black elf is the entirely wrong race for multiple reasons, and why he's there really makes you question if anyone writing this has ever read Tolkien....
@@petriew2018 I am DONE after that 1st Episode.. and to see now there are more Black and Asian Elves... and yes I concur with you.. No Sindarin Elves were involved in Eregion or Lindon.. Only place where the Sindar woulld be relevant would be at Cirdan's domain in Lindon. SIGH!
05:10 - Well, they probably got that from watching anime. I swear, people just keep on repeating things to each other while barely moving to save on animation in all anime I have seen... :D
Among a sea of crime against Tolkien, the humanisation of orcs somehow feels like the worst crime. Maybe because I remember not just myself, but the entire movie theater of people audibly distressed at how orcs were created in LOTR, how ruthless they were, how many of them there were. They were the embodiment of evil. And now... I can't even.
They even fucked up the Elves ears, ok you can destroy a beloved IP but AT LEAST, have amazing Elven's ears for F sake. Just like it was done in 2001. THENTY TREE YEARS AGO. Those looks like MMA fighters ears.
Okay, I get it, Amazon signed for 5 seasons of TRoP. But did they also sign for the Tolkien-wannabe writer team, who don't understand his work in the slightest, nor are they even remotely capable of writing dialogue of comparable quality and/or style? Tolkien was a professor of freaking linguistics. His writing and ideas are not something that can be replicated by writers hired on a quota, and by trying, they just piss people off.
If Tolkien was current day California. Everything is so bland and generic, I don't care about anyone in the show, the world doesn't feel real in the slightest, the dialogues are just terrible and cringy. This show is pure garbage.
As someone who hasn't read the books, but has seen PJ's trilogy countless times - I must say I am enjoying RoP, and even more so, I am amused by the online vitriolic reaction to it. I do agree with some points, and see many others as relatively valid, and yet somehow, I am enjoying this TV show to some extent. It hits a certain spot for me, and I can't really help it. If that means my taste is god-tier garbage according to online opinion, then I assume that. For those of you that do enjoy this show, just know you're not alone, and it's okay to like it for whatever reason you have.
I watched season 1 chapter 1... after the first 5 minutes I was "This is cool, an adventure show!" By minute 15 I knew I was not going to watch anymore chapters. By the end of the chapter I couldn't believe that they actually spent money in making this community college parody dumpster...
I watched a video about Rings of Power that claimed Amazon bought the rights to The Hobbit and the LOTR movies but not the actual Silmarillion book where 99.99% of the lore comes from. So, they're essentially in a position where they have to make up the entirety of the series. But they're not actually talented enough to do that so they used every trope imaginable and identity politics in place of actual storytelling and character development in the hope that the denizens of Twitter would give them money.
I believe this is innacurate. They do have the rights to the Silmarillion and ONLY Silmarillion. This is why they can't have Gandalf in the show and have to hint and wink at it, it is a guarantee that in 5 seasons they will never call the Wizard by the name Gandalf. What they have in terms of the films is distribution rights on their streaming platform but not creative/production rights. There is not and won't be a single character in this show that is not referenced in the Silmarillion.
I've been sitting, watching and shaking my head. What have they done to these characters? The actual story so beautifully handles all of these concepts and events, and provides all the opportunities you could want to graft a bit of meat onto the bones if you needed to. Instead, let's jumble up and butcher the timeline, insert simplistic plot mechanisms like "Celebrimbor fell for Sauron because someone managed to ambush Elves" and then desperately try to shoehorn evil and conflict into the Three by polluting three of the most incorruptible Elves in history - Galadriel, Elrond and Gil Galad. Even the way they talk about "invading Mordor." "Let's attack from the east. Let's attack from the west." As if Mordor ever had any accessible entrance except the Morannon, other than going around the mountain range that would be the equivalent of walking from the Morannon to the Shire.
Whats wrong with this shit is that instead of Tolkien we get some random idiot writing the prequel to LotR. No one knows who he/she/they/it? is but theyve spend 1 billion so ppl are watching it.. WTF
I watched the first 3 episodes and got so upset that I watched the first two LOTR extended editions and will watch the Return of the King to cleanse my mind. Trying to create sympathy for orcs is like trying to create sympathy for Nazis. Orcs are pure evil.
I remember nothing from Season 1, I thought Theo was just young Isildur, and then they're in the same scene together, Queen Blind dips ducks dodges and dives, there's too many "If you were really my friend..." scenes... I'm sooooo bored. And it's all too damn dark.
The actress that played Black Lemongrass's woman left the show to go fight for woman's rights in countries where women are oppressed.🙂✌️ She's all...Iran is a better place to be than part of this show.😄
Thanks for being honest about how trash this is. It's not trash because of the diverse cast, it's trash because of horrendous dialogue and because it abandons the source material for a much much much worse overall story
As for the ogre who worries about his wife and son, we can say that Rankin-Bass' film was a long shot. "Where there's a whip, there's a way. We don't want going to war today! But the lord of the lash says "Nay, nay, nay!"
yeah, I really love their bullshit cringey promotional video of Galadriel under a tree and Sauron sitting in a tree looking down at her and it says "Evil takes root". Pretty good thematic choice considering Galadriel was barking up the wrong tree for eight whole episodes.
Tolkien fandom should treat this garbage as PJO fans treat the "Percy Jackson movies" Deny their existence at all costs and gaslight everyone into thinking it never existed.
The orc worrying about going war because hes scared for his wife and child was too much for me.
Are you serious !!?
@@SanDiegoDaD are you not?
I haven’t seen s2, nor will I ever, but genuinely, DID THAT REALLY HAPPEN in the show? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s just marvellous 🥲
#OrcLivesMatter
In the next episode Orc Kid goes to school and gets bullied by other orc boys. Needless to say, Orc Dad and Orc Mom hold a meeting with Orc Principal.
People are getting paid for this sh&t
It feels like Rings of Power does not exist in real life, only on the internet. I have never talked about this show with friends, wife or relatives.
Same. Nobody I work with knows it exists.
Totally. I only heard two people talk about it. Both said it was meh. I had to restrain myself not to tell them what a dumpster it is
I have talked about it
only because they literally force race into the story where characters look nothing like their parents
LIKE NOTHING
@@g.t.werber4476 Meh and Dumpster fire are both accurate terms to describe this show, tbh.
@@chasehedges6775mmm dumpster it's several steps below meh 😆 and this show is a glorious dumpster fire
It's not Fanfiction.
It's jealous HaterFiction.
Underrated comment
So many of the choices made in this show are extremely strong indications that the people who created it DONT EVEN KNOW what LOTR is, what it's about, what it's themes are, what it's trying to say about people and the world and the nature of evil and the nature of our hearts.
There is almost a willful disregard for Tolkien's themes.
I agree. The comparison is unfair to Fanficiton writers.
Like the touching scene with the marginalised victim orc family. That one was so repulsive it turned my stomach. A truly offensive desecration of Tolkien's work.
Budweiser, The Acolyte, and now The Rings of Power all epic failures by the "woke feminists" of America. People that don't have good taste, or know what it is to create high quality material if it even hit them upside the head. Terrible business managers so stupid their "Agenda" and incompetence comes before profits, the shareholders and customers of the company. People you cannot even trust to babysit your children have now found themselves in positions of power thanks to DEI, and all failing miserably. You go girls! lol
Sauron is supposed to be pure evil, pure hatred. But this show asks, what if maybe he had a sneaky little crush on Galadrial(who's supposed to be married anyways). Great work guys
A being like him getting a crush on her is like a human having a crush on a small monkey
@@SiriusSphynx Weirdly Accurate
@@SiriusSphynx Or maybe a human having a crush on an ant.
@@SiriusSphynxTo be fair, bestiality is a special kind of evil and so is Sauron :pffft:
@@ImmortanDan To be fair Sauron would have more pride than that. Pfft
Looking past the obvious crimes against lore, worldbuilding, and plot consistency, the thing that strikes me the most is that all the characters speak in generic cringeworthy metaphors. It comes across as a pretentious teenager's idea of profound dialogue, and there's basically no regard for each character's -- well, character and cultural background. They all speak in the same manner. The writers obviously have no idea how to write believable fantasy dialogue (or perhaps dialogue in general).
They don't have to be good writers to get a job on the most expensive show of all time. They just had to say the right things and hire actors with the right skin colour and then brag and lecture the whole world about it like the insufferable ideologues they are. Their pretentious, shallow dialogue mirrors the pretentiousness and shallowness of their ideology.
“Do you know why a fart smells and a stone doesn’t galadral? It’s because the fart believes it can” -rings of power probably
Spot on
Tolkien Writing Gandalf: "Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least."
Rings of Power Writing Gandalf: "IM GOOD."
It's like the show is a perpetual parody of itself. The metaphors are so hilariously cringeworthy that I can't believe they wrote that stuff sincerely.
We didn’t know how good we had it with The Hobbit trilogy.
What's wrong with the Hobbit?
@@lorddoma6637where to begin...
@@lorddoma6637 Same. I love them.
@@majorhumbert676 😂🙌
For all those movies' fault, it's still worth a re-watch sometimes. This show needs to be thrown into Mount Doom.
Orc lives matter! ✊
😂😂😂
They're not evil, just discriminated against 🙃🙃
them's the blackest lives you can GET NI...
@@cosmicmuffin322no one said that. You haven't understood the show and don't know tolkien. Tell me you haven't read his work without telling me 😂
@@cosmicmuffin322i hope that was a sarcastic joke 🤞
Galadriel is the worst written character i’ve seen in a while, whole show should be considered a hate crime
Orcs having humanity is the only proof you need, from this entire show, that the showrunners and writers have absolutely no understanding of Tolkien's legendarium.
I once had a period in my life where I read the entire series at least once every year, the orcs are the absolute corruption of beauty and good. That is their entire point. They are not grey on a scale of black to white, they are black.
Tolkien's orcs specifically. We're not talking about other fantasy race orcs such as World of Warcraft or Elder Scrolls.
@@AkamoriRivalstolkiens orcs fuck, have women and children and talk about fleeing the war. All penned by TOLKIEN. you should get your lore straight.
Tolkien was a devout Catholic who presented the first orcs as fallen elves or elves who chose to be corrupted or were forcibly corrupted. I don't remember reading anything in-depth about how that took place. Given Tolkien's beliefs, I have to disagree that orcs represent absolute corruption. Only the corruption of fallen souls, which is reversible in Christian dogma.
@@sethmartin9089Exactly. Making orcs doubt their motives is the truest reading of Tolkien
With such dogmatic confirmation bias, why watch it?
I'm literally waiting for the plot twist to come any moment now: Galadriel is actually Sauron.
Na, that'd actually make sense in context.
Somehow even making a joking about something absurd and dumb they would do is giving them too much credit. You've put more thought into your throwaway youtube comment section joke than they did into their billion dollar TV series.
THAT S NOT HOW ORC WORKS!
this was the craziest thing I seen from this orc family, even if there was orc females they would be brutalized by orcs , orcs are evil lol
Even worse: That's not how Tolkien works!
They really thought it was elder scroll 😂😂😂... but seriously this is shit and the orc made me laugh
i was under the impression that the clowns who wrote this horse manure can't even tell the difference between Lord of the Rings and World of Warcraft.
what a load of ass.
Orc lady and orc baby... I've seen it all, they are trying to copy World of Warcraft ffs
I like how the writers forgot that even before he created the rings, he could wipe out an entire army of orcs with his sorcery, Sauron was a lieutenant of Morgoth, a Maia, he’s freaking powerful. Why did they make him get defeated like a bitch to an army of orcs?
Yeah Before they killed him when he was talking I was thinking why does this dude seem so pathetic? Like this is souron? Seemed like half the orc army in there didn’t even respect him lol. Like the dude wasn’t scary at all.
The true Sauron could have just nuked all those orcs, and went elsewhere.
because he decided to shape shift into the Orc's favorite actor Michael Sheen for some reason.
"Commodified fantasy takes no risks: it invents nothing, but imitates and trivializes. It proceeds by depriving the old stories of their intellectual and ethical complexity, turning their action to violence, their actors to dolls, and their truth-telling to sentimental platitude. Heroes brandish their swords, lasers, wands, as mechanically as combine harvesters, reaping profits. Profoundly disturbing moral choices are sanitized, made cute, made safe. The passionately conceived idea of the great storytellers are copied, stereotyped, reduced to toys, molded in bright-colored plastic, advertised, sold, broken, junked, replaceable, interchangeable." -Ursula K. LeGuin
Brilliant quotation, thanks. ❤
After trying to publish 3 novels let me just tell you, the industry WANTS the bland shit. I know loads of young people who write amazingly fresh stories with compelling characters, and we're all struggling to get it out there. Criticism includes that books MUST be short, simple, and easy to follow. Wish me luck because after 2 years of being told "young people won't read something with historical accuracy", I'm close to just uploading 500k words as a webnovel because at least that gets it out there. This industry is straight up brain rot, and young artists, be it painters, musicians and writers, are really struggling to get the novel and fresh things out there. The industry is very openly rejecting it.
This is so well said.
Sometimes, apple do fall far from the tree, they even rolls down the hills and end up in a ditch.
Looking at you, Simon Tolkien.
I find it hilarious that the female lead said that she needed counselling because of the fight scenes. What a joke she is.
Sit and sip iced tea, while they set up cameras, lights, props and powder your face, then pretend to fight, sit and sip while they reset. Sounds scary to me.
Wait wait wait ... do you mean counselling as in ... emotional support/therapy? Not, as in, 'I want someone to help me improve my moves, or work out to be able to sell the physicality' ...
@@givmi_more_w9251I think he’s talking about the lead saying she underwent a sort of ”exposure therapy” (even though I wouldn’t call it that at all), so she wouldn’t automaticaly flinch everytime someone yelled at her. I believe it was because she was easily scared aswell as the roles she usually plays are more soft spoken and vulnerable characters, so she had to rethink how to react, if I remember correctly. So it isn’t as bad as that guy made it sound, but it’s still awkward that it was needed, and written about, so much.
Hey, it's no joke! I was traumatized as well.
@@givmi_more_w9251Oh yes, exactly the kind of counseling they meant. Yep.
LOTR and Dune contrast each other so perfectly, if I may oversimplify: Frank Herbert thrived in a moral grey area, but Tolkien had a great divide between pure good and evil. In both stories, it worked well. This show is like a shit fan fiction "what if" these authors switched places and it would make both stories suck.. as we see here. (and I hate giving the showrunners as much credit as this implies, but you get my point. There's no "Frank Herbert" writing this garbage)
Most fan fiction writers think "I write, therefore I'm an author and writer". At one time being a writer or author meant your work was at least accepted by a publisher, but now it just means you self-publish on Amazon or post on Discord and have other sweaty people who can't get a date IRL lusting after some characters. So yeah, this is like a Galadriel/Sauron fan fic because those people also love to ship the least likely characters as well.
Paul Atreides is what Sauron thinks to be.
@@HotaruGlaive I do dabble in writing fan fiction, but it's mostly a 'oh my God, i hated this aspect of the story, it made no sense to me , I want to reimagine it.' Or 'I like that part, I want to expand on it.' It's an autistic, low-maintenance pasttime that gives me a bit of joy, nothing serious (and which I only engage in if I really care about the work. Which are like ... one or two.). And since English is my second language, writing such stuff in English helps expand my vocabulary and learn how to phrase stuff properly ... or at least, less awkwardly.
NEVER EVER would I dare call myself a writer. And I wouldn't dream of publishing my amateurish BS anywhere. I also don't read fan fiction very much, but I avoid fandoms like they are nuclear accident sites. Too much reeing, shilling, and shipping wars ... it sucks the enjoyment right out of it for me.
I don't say this as a 'noT aLl faN fICtIoN writErS', just to underline your point how insulting and ridiculous it is for those numbskulls who 'publish' their 'works' into a circlejerking discord/website to call themselves authors.
In regards to shipping, yeah. At best, it's a 'dude, those two are so incompatible and have ZERO chemistry, why would you fantasise them being together? '
That sounds exhausting, constantly blocking out the obvious cues that they have NOTHING romantic between them, or frantically clinging to any interaction that shows the characters standing a centimetre closer to each other than normal.
Guess I'm lazy, but well-written canon couples (with meaningful romance that serves the story) are so much more enjoyable than constantly trying to justify your oNe tRUe paIrINg. Also, not every story needs romance. I find it bizarre coupling characters in everything you see, and I say this who is a sucker for a good love story. (Lack of Y-chromosome, can't help it.)
I heard that some actual authors have retconned their characters into siblings to stop the shipping and bring the focus back onto that what matters, the plot, the themes ... without success, of course. I find that so sad that authors, who certainly care deeply about their work, find themselves forced to change something to stop people defiling it... or stop people ATTACKING them online for not including their totes valid gay romance between those two mortal enemies...
A key element of why both work is because the writers created their world to support their stories. Middle Earth is a fairly black and white realm where Tolkiens ideas of good and evil are tangible forces of nature, woven into the fabric of the world building from the very start. Likewise Herbert created a universe of stagnation and treachery to fit his narrative
This is why you basically can't tell the story this show it trying to tell, because the world of Tolkien doesn't function if good and evil are 'subjective', it simply does not fit. Likewise if you tried to tell a fairly standard heroes journey tale within Dune, it would quickly hit a brick wall because that universe is engineered to make such things impossible. You have to break the foundations of either setting to tell these stories
@@HotaruGlaive Admittedly, if they write, they're a writer. If they are a writer and they publish their work, then they're an author. That doesn't mean they're a _good_ one, or even are familiar at all with the nuances of the craft. Same with people who self-publish. They could be excellent or terrible. We shouldn't overgeneralize all writers here just because Amazon is scraping below the bottom of the barrel. Speaking as someone who writes and has studied writing for 40+ years.
Simon Tolkien is to be blamed for this shit show
If i was a relative of JRR with ANY respect for his work, Simon would be banned from all family events. This guy is TRULY worse than the showrunners. He is a hack who is so bitter for not being 1/1000 of what his grandfather was as a writer, that he is determined to destroy his legacy just to feel better about his talentless self. Christopher would f'in roll in his grave if he knew what his son is doing to his father's work.
Simon actually said he wants Sauron in this show to be Walter White and they even have a troll based on Mike. I wish I was joking.
Simon and the whole Tolkien Estate. Sauron took hold of Numenor.
Imagine to have grandsons to sell and destroy your work. They should be on jail.
$imon
Would love to use the lasso of truth on the writers to see why they’ve made such awful decisions and then blamed fans, but they’re probably actually convinced they are in the right
they think it's brilliant, because they are morons
Oh they know their stories and characters are garbage, that's why they had to graft the Lord of Rings franchise onto it. Otherwise nobody would agree to make their show.
@@brainflash1 Sounds about right.
They're ideologues. They are talentless hacks who care more about promoting their twisted "diversity" ideology than they do about being outstanding writers and crafting meaningful, quality, emotionally truthful stories that resonate with people.
Because they hate the source material and Tolkien.
I sa2 an article from some Gen Z child saying they never cared about LOTR. Never read the books, didn't grow up with the movies and THIS made them appreciate it 🙄 because they "now know the backstory."
I don't know what disgusts me the most, them thinking this is a backstory, or the decision to publish an opinion from someone without a shred of a clue of what they're talking about
Prolly paid shill meta marketing tbh
Really fk I'm gen Z and i abouslutely hate ring of power, it insult tolking
agree with @@alexreidzero1357. besides, the show is shit not because it disrespects the source material, it's just worthless shit in itself, and the only reason some people have watched it is, in my mind, because of gen Y nostalgia towards LOTR, and need to cling to that feeling for the good old.
Tolkien Orcs: Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys.
Ring of P**sy Orcs: Are there any vegan options available?
At the end of Peter Jackson’s last Hobbit movie, accompanying the credits, the audience was treated to a gallery of gorgeous sketches of landscapes, architecture, characters and costumes. These included design drawings of the ring, exquisitely rendered, Elven inscriptions and all, faithful to Tolkien’s description of this awesome yet far from ornate object at the center of an epic tale.
By contrast, Amazon brings us Elven “rings of power” which look like they emerged from a plastic egg that came out of a gumball machine. Perhaps they were ordered from a cosplay accessory vender on Amazon.
The word “cheesy” barely scratches the surface.
First, Halibrand has to inform the Elve’s master metal-smith that metals can be alloyed, something he has obviously never heard of. Then Dumblebimbobor , needing only the finest Elven gold and silver to mix with his irreplaceable mithril sample, smelts Galadriel’s brother’s knife, and the steel blade melts at the same temperature as the precious metals of the handle.
We now have to assume that the finest Elven blades were made from inferior brittle carbon steel (which still melts at a higher temperature than soft metals), while the swords of the men from the Southland have been alloyed with nickel as Halibrand mentioned, so as to make them tough and hold an edge when tempered. Clearly the men from the Southland were superior metallurgists to the primitive, less sophisticated Elves. Who knew(?), surely not Tolkien.
The mthril, so touchy and unstable that it has already blown up the furnace once, is carefully added to the melt by pulling the lump of unrefined ore out of a pouch and tossing it in the crucible, no drying or preheating, with no ill effect. The pour is not carried to the mold to keep it as hot and liquid as possible, but flows down a split stream along long, curving troughs for some reason.
We see the tongs of the craftsman twisting silver wires to form one of the rings, a process which has nothing to do with smelting as wires are drawn, not cast. Not too surprising then that the silver wire ring is a different color than the two super-bowl rings, as it is obviously made from a different (non-magical) alloy. Although the chunky zircon on top does have a certain Disney princess “charm” all its own.
Critics have pointed out that the Amazon writers don't have copyrights to Gandalf, Hobbits, etc. Hence the nameless "not Gandalf" wizard and proto-hobbit “club-foots” or what have you. I'm guessing the ring designs are also copyrighted.
I'm glad those guys from Jackson’s crew are still working and I wonder if they are cringing like much of the audience is.
Honest to God, what the f*ck is this show?
Spite and hate fiction
They made is for pronouns. They them love it
Cosplay filmed on an android.
@@Wl0006 💯💯
@@Wl0006 Bad cosplay on an asteroid
What pisses me off is that there are viewers out there who actually think these garbage episodes are the books. May your videos live forever.
They’re way better than the books
@@Nucleus2301 You're an absolute dolt. 🤣😆😂
Nah they don't even care
I don’t care if the actors are white black or green, the problem is that the show is HORRIBLE, everything, the acting, the story, the clothes, the dialogue, trying so hard to be poetically but is just garbage, is suck a butchering of the lore.
Rings of Power and The Acolyte is a couple nobody asked for.
Sooooo true.
As someone who was born in 2001, i think If these shows had been made in the 80s and 90s, I guarantee the VHS tapes would be burned after people watched them because they were so bad. People know bad writing and poor storytelling when they see it
@@chasehedges6775 it has to first be considered storytelling to even be considered bad storytelling. This was just a series of scenarios where characters had meaningless conversations.
@@Bilious303 Exactly!
@@dodywidodo9433 exactly, by trying to be diverse and attracting a "bigger" audience, both shows have crapped on their foundations legacies by being almost the opposite of the world's they belong to. In turn the long term fans of both franchises get treated as if we don't exist anymore. There have literally been hundreds of millions of dollars spent between both of these shows, for what? Trash, absolutely garbage that will taint both franchises. Well done Amazon and Disney. Amazon should stick to online shopping and Disney...they need to look at themselves in the mirror hard. But they might be too far gone.
Lord of the Rings orcs: "Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!"
Rings of Power Orcs: "Is that gluten free? I'm allergic to that stuff you know."
Stop trying to make everyone and everything relatable. Lord of the rings was about good and evil
You might wanna read it then, and find out how orks actually talk about fleeing the war.
@@emasbutt These people can't read, hence why they just repeat anything they hear in these hate videos.
@@emasbuttIt also said that female orcs do not exist. Orcs are not born.
@@LalaDepala_00 tolkien wrote in letters that they do exist and procreate like mammals
@@emasbutt Yeah where? Name the page and stopy yapping
I just love how kings and queens in this show can be disrespected, disobeyed, and belittled without any consequences...
Is like its their only purpose
Yeah exactly. Make the characters as dislikable as possible.
$100-$150 million per episode. HOLY SMOKES!!!
Its 1b for the whole 5 seasons, so 200m per season, still garbage, don't get me wrong.
To compare, each Lord of The Rings movie had a budget of 80 million, except for The Return of the King, which had a budget of 90 million or so.
Who are these reviewers that are giving it an *86%* on Rotten Tomatoes? How can anyone think this garbage is worth watching?
No idea but that is Baffling.
“How did this happen? We’re smarter than this.”
“Apparently not.”
- Anakin and Obi Wan, Revenge Of The Sith
They need to give good reviews to keep receiving early-access screenings, they have 0 integrity.
oh lord is that a question.... you want to lose your mind laughing? go actually look up who Rotten Tomatoes considers a professional critic just to pad these numbers. like, we're talking actual hobby bloggers here, some of who actually get away with reviewing it twice. It's hilarious how desperate Amazon has gotten to hide this embarrassment.
1. Rotten tomatoes doesn't seem to be as trustworthy as it used to be. It is likely accepting payments to manipulate the numbers by filtering critics based on goal rating.
2. The film companies have filtered out genuine film reviewers by not providing early review copies to critics who have criticised their tentpoles in the past. So, new critics don't want to risk giving a negative review for fear of being blacklisted which would be a career-ender more or less.
3. Even the critics who should have no fear, like those from the big media houses, are not as good as they used to be. Just like scriptwriters and filmmakers are no longer as good as they used to be, actually. I am starting to think this whole generation, my generation, sucks. The next generation is no better. Shall we put our hopes on the next next generation, boys and girls still in high school right now? Probably not. Maybe the ones that are in preschool right now will be better. I wonder if our generation got ruined by the arrival of smart phones and social media at the wrong time in our growth.
4. Rotten tomatoes ratings for TV shows sucked worse than those for films to begin with. TV show critics were tiers below film critics even a decade ago. It may have got worse.
its 1am right now, but yes, i will be postponing sleep for 30 mins to watch movie cynic talk about rings of power.
You sound like you want to search for the opinion that its bad. But you'll also find the opinion that is good. You're in a bad vicious cycle of looking for validating things are bad without having your own opinion on it
Elindel looks like he’s wearing a stylized hoodie with graphic armour printed on it with some sweat pants. The costumes are so incredibly bad it’s pathetic.
G royally screws up her crusade to get sauron, ends up actually helping him, then lets him walk off, and not only does she not do anything about it, she conceals his presence. And when all this is revealed to the high king, he does absolutely nothing. G is a moron, a coward and a traitor, and gil galad is a simp. what a show.
It's even worse than that because in season 1, Sauron expresses a genuine desire to put the life of evil behind him. I know in Tolkien's lore, he is evil itself and would never give up evil because it's his nature, but the SHOW contradicts that so I'm pulling from what they showed us. Sauron wants to settle in Numenor and become a smith and even resists Strong Woman™ when she tries to persuade him to fight alongside her for the fate of the Southlands. He tells her no multiple times and says he's happy to become a smith and settle down. She circumvents him by getting the queen regent to order him to help by LYING and making up a story in her own mind about him being the rightful king of the Southlands even though he TOLD HER EXPLICITLY that he took the trinket off a dead man. So he goes off to battle and gets a taste for power again and even gets an appetite for revenge when he confronts Adar. All of this causes him to relapse into the old Sauron and become evil again.
Season 2 is essentially the writers' attempt to retcon Strong Woman™ being a villain to try and make it seem like Halbrand was acting shady all along.
tl;dr
Strong Woman™ is like that one "friend" who convinces a recovering alcoholic to drink again, leading them to causing a fatal 5-car accident on the highway.
@@LegendaryDorkKnight No, the intro to the first episode of season 2 literally confirms that Strong Woman is the only reason he goes back to his evil ways. If she hadnt jumped off a boat and randomly met him in the middle of the ocean he wouldve probably just ended up chilling in Numenor. This is the canon of the show lmao.
*GallllaaaaaaaaarrrdddirRRRRrRRRRRRrRrRRRRRRRrrrrRRRRiRRrRrrRRRieEELLlllllllleeeeeee
to be fair Tolkien himself went back and forth on the orcs many times, he dropped the ideas of them being tortured elves or cut from the ground , he decided they should be capable of redemption , but to portray them as having human like family units is the laziest form of bs subversion.
Shadow of War did it good and I will die on that hill
Even when itself was fanfiction on drugs making no sense
Why tho ? They "multiply after the same manner of the other children of Illuvitar", doesn't make them any less violent and aggressive
Orcs are elves who moms was smoking during pregnancy
@@tadasdovii8262 add inbred to that list since Morgoth only had limited elf material to begin with and it totally makes sense now 😂
@@Keram-io8hvShadows was quality fan fiction. The history and the characters were cool and it felt like middle earth
5 SEASONS?!?!? 😧😧😧😧
We’re cooked
@@CamGoldberg3796 Utterly doomed
Avatar The Last Airbender managed to tell everything it needed to tell in 3 Seasons😂LOL. And that was back in 2005 - 2008!
Guess they hate making money....
Yassss!
1 billion dollar fan fiction is absolutely wild
Calling it fanfiction is an insult to fanfiction.
Thank you for insisting that this is NOT Lord of the Rings!
Holy shit they’re committed to 5 seasons?!? That’s wild best options they have to to pretend the first 2 seasons didn’t exist and reboot the entire series.
Billions more to launder
@@noticing33 3 billions damn who is even funding them?
The whole point of this show is to trash Tolkien and any decent person. It is propaganda disguised as a story.
They really should've just got Peter Jackson to direct this. The Hobbit might have tripped all over itself but it still felt like Middle-earth, this doesn't. It feels like a pale imitation of it.
💯💯💯💯. Exactly. PJ would know what to do and HOW TO DO IT WELL.
You're assuming their intention wasn't to put out propaganda slop, all along. They just expected everyone to seal clap, not ask questions, consume product then get excited for next product.
This redeemed the hobbit. The hobbit had a dumb plot stretched too far. But Smaug and the Dale guy were cool.
@@POTTERANDMATRIXFAN the Tolkien estate forbid them from using Jackson for any further work
It wasn't even Jackson's fault, Warner Bros butchered the whole thing and then got Jackson last minute to try and fix their screw up.
Season 2 is shit and the sky is blue. What else is new.
And my god, the elves look like stereotypical fairies instead of the noble badasses they were in the movies.
Buncha twinks, the lot of em lol
There are quality shows that are being axed after a single season. And then there’s this excrement getting a second season.
Has nobody noticed that not-Gandalf was dragging those two little brats on a carpet thru the desert before almost dying of heat stroke lmfao
I can't believe I'm about to say this, but one thing the Acolyte had going for it is it felt like a story the creators actually wanted to tell.
Rings of Power is so muddled, coincidental and dispassionate it feels like the writers are just going through the motions, they have nothing they want to explore or really dig into, they're just kinda being paid to do a job (badly).
They couldn't have picked a worse cast for Celebrimbor. He's like a Grandma on the verge of Alzheimers.
Thanks Movie Cynic for ripping this a new one, it felt good 😂
I really like how you said “not Gandalf Gandalf, not hobbit hobbit, not Sauron Sauron” - it’s a very poignant observation. This is the “Not Lord of the Rings Lord of the Rings”show.
It’s time to cancel my Prime subscription 😂
I'm just so disapointed... How can it look so cheap? Why does every humanoid community look more diverse than NY metro station? Why the dwarves look so weak/skinny (excluding Disa)? How they can't afford more top actors than first Adar (who left the show almost immediately). What is this writing?? ? WHERE IS THE MONEY BEING SPENT??
I tried episode 1... And I didn't even get through it. Was so badly done that it lost my attention about 20 mins in... And I will watch some of the worst barbarian movies from the 80s. That really says something.
Reducing the Tolkien lore to Easter eggs. Jesus Christ
Why do the rings look like the prizes you win at Peter Piper Pizza?
i guess they shot saison 1 and when they made it to E8 with not a second on making the name giving "Rings of Power" and realizing, damn, we do not even have the ring props, the showrunners just said "well, what about a Pizza for lunch, maybe, we get an inspiration for our problem..."
The Ring Pops of Power
The dialog, plot, continuity and lack of context in a lot of scenes reminds me of they way AI systems write stories. I wonder...
Naah, at this point AI would do a far superior job, only a retarded talentless human could write such a poor excuse of a story
They 10000% used AI to help write this show. All "modern" DEI hires who write these shows use AI.
💯
My favorite part about this video is where you say "I know you're not watching it, so I'll watch it for you" as i'm going "wait there was a first season already?"
appreciate it btw
All the dialogue in the first season was bad. The thing is, the actor that played Elrond, the actors that played young and old Durin, and the actor that played Diza, did everything possible to polish that turd, and making those scenes enjoyable through the sheer force of their charisma. They deserve to be in a better show than this.
don't leave out Berek... if ever there was a horse with such a good acting since Black Beauty, i do not know it... ;o)
Apart from what Galadriel says and does (all that sh**t romance with Sauron) her facial expressions are just awful, i get this so awkward feeling when the camera zooms onto her face and she is supposed to
have an angry, sometimes really intense face or moment. But it is all the same. She pinches her lips together and speaks like she is in Pain. Why even give the role to someone who can't even act properly???
What did they see in her???? She always gives that feeling "Oh I am better than these men". Galadriel I heard on YT (I have not read the whole book yet) that she in books was not in love with
Sauron or have any attraction toward him. These shitty people have ruined it. Why they could not cast a normal girl, who doesn't give the feeling "I am better than these men" story is as told in books,
she is more powerful than men, and she is the most important figure. I am 100% certain they will show that man accidentally killed Sauron because some female could not land a death blow.
Why do strong women characters come at the cost of men being si***es??? Men are powerful but women are more powerful you can show that way and they don't have that air about them "I am better"
I love Galadriel's entry in the Movie, she is so powerful yet doesn't have that air about her. She rescues the powerful wizard without him evil can't be defeated and she saves that man from the stronghold of
evil. This is a strong woman and her acting skills are I don't have to mention she is professional. but what do we see today??? In every role, women are ahead and forcefully not naturally and all men are just
dummies.
Sauron turned to Sour Ron
EXCELLENT WORK. THE MOVIE CYNIC RINGS OF GARBAGE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE
The way you edit with all the random clips is funnier than anything Ive seen from Hollywood in a decade.
The utter collapse of standards in every avenue of art is a sign of the times. When the best thing people can say is "its not that bad" its a wrap.
Keep in mind, the 1/3 that watched all of season one also included a lot of content creators lol
doesn't make sense *again* for Galadrial to be a girl boss and telling everyone evil is still here, SHE FINDS THE EVIL AND REFUSES TO TELL ANYONE
The Orcs are good dudes just trying to support their wives and children. War is the "last thing" an Orc wants and Tolkien did a great job hammering that fact home within his writings
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next Amazon project: Reboot of Schindler's List with Schindler being an evil slave owner and the Nazis the misunderstood people, who only want to better the lifes of all those around them...
Nah they are violent and aggressive, but not mindless evil drones
@@Antoine-x2f lol they're the very embodiment of "evil" and it depends on what your definition of "mindless" is
@@cappy2282 not as mindless as in "no survival instinct" as Tolkien writes about orcs fleeing when outnumbered or loosing almost every battle they are in. And he also writes them as broken and corrupted, under the lash of the pure evil mastermind of Morgoth and almost equally evil Sauron, but they follw those two mostly out of awe and fear, not some fanatism...
It’s like I have a sister 10 yrs younger trying to explain the movies I made her watch while mom and dad went out to dinner and she only has 10 minutes to explain what we watched
I feel so bad for the eminem lady , she did literally nothing to deserve this.
"Other people ripping to shreds things I also dont like" has become my favorite thing on UA-cam and I honestly dont know if thats a good thing or not.
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They aren't ass movies.
And yes, it DOES like to reference them.
Leave Sauron to me / Leave Saruman to me
During going "he never mentioned you" is a copy of Thorin going "He hever mentioned you"
And so forth....
WHY ARE THERE BLACK ELVES!!!!!!!
because you are racist obviously
This isn't close to their worst sin. Obviously elves are not black in the books, but every movie is doing this with the IP (e.g. little mermaid, snow white, etc.). To me, that's a losing battle not worth fighting. But, the narrative choices for Galadriel (rebellious and impulsive), Sauron (got defeated so easily by adar) , the sympathetic orcs, etc. are inexcusable. That is taking a crap on the lore.
@@jeffsmith441 Not denying the travestry but this upsets me the most as a Tolkien fan.
@@goodputin4324 the better question is why is Discount Legolas even in this show.
The Silvan Elves very pointedly had nothing to do with the wars of the Noldorim against Sauron, and they're the ones who like bows. The Noldor tended to prefer heavy armor and swords, not what looks like bark and trickshot bows.... so yeah, the black elf is the entirely wrong race for multiple reasons, and why he's there really makes you question if anyone writing this has ever read Tolkien....
@@petriew2018 I am DONE after that 1st Episode.. and to see now there are more Black and Asian Elves... and yes I concur with you.. No Sindarin Elves were involved in Eregion or Lindon.. Only place where the Sindar woulld be relevant would be at Cirdan's domain in Lindon. SIGH!
05:10 - Well, they probably got that from watching anime. I swear, people just keep on repeating things to each other while barely moving to save on animation in all anime I have seen... :D
Among a sea of crime against Tolkien, the humanisation of orcs somehow feels like the worst crime. Maybe because I remember not just myself, but the entire movie theater of people audibly distressed at how orcs were created in LOTR, how ruthless they were, how many of them there were. They were the embodiment of evil. And now... I can't even.
In a perfect world we’d see this review, word for f’ing word, on Rotten Tomatoes and IMBD.
“You’ll eat the bugs, you won’t know anything and you’ll be happy“
Klaus Schwab
To think this abomination is tangentially related to the amazing first season of The Terror...
You are 100% correct. I won't watch two seconds of this trash but I will have a good laugh watching you drinker and Gary shred this awful fan fiction.
who's gary
She isn't an ugly woman by any means, but she's not beautiful enough to be Galadriel.
Plus she's a midget
she is kinda uggo. small and puffy
with no bone structure and paper skin just hanging where the face should be. she looks sickly
Morfydd Clark is a 5ft 3 mid 4 on a good day playing a character who is 6ft 4 and the vision of beauty and femininity... Casting genius
My main issue is she can't (or won't) act
It looks like all the elf's are under 6 foot. 🤣
They even fucked up the Elves ears, ok you can destroy a beloved IP but AT LEAST, have amazing Elven's ears for F sake. Just like it was done in 2001. THENTY TREE YEARS AGO. Those looks like MMA fighters ears.
It’s hard believe I was born that long ago. Man, I’m old
they look the same as Vulcan ears in the new Star Trek series
@@infinitestare 😂
Okay, I get it, Amazon signed for 5 seasons of TRoP. But did they also sign for the Tolkien-wannabe writer team, who don't understand his work in the slightest, nor are they even remotely capable of writing dialogue of comparable quality and/or style? Tolkien was a professor of freaking linguistics. His writing and ideas are not something that can be replicated by writers hired on a quota, and by trying, they just piss people off.
If Tolkien was current day California. Everything is so bland and generic, I don't care about anyone in the show, the world doesn't feel real in the slightest, the dialogues are just terrible and cringy. This show is pure garbage.
As someone who hasn't read the books, but has seen PJ's trilogy countless times - I must say I am enjoying RoP, and even more so, I am amused by the online vitriolic reaction to it. I do agree with some points, and see many others as relatively valid, and yet somehow, I am enjoying this TV show to some extent. It hits a certain spot for me, and I can't really help it.
If that means my taste is god-tier garbage according to online opinion, then I assume that.
For those of you that do enjoy this show, just know you're not alone, and it's okay to like it for whatever reason you have.
Sauront is not supposed to engage conversation with orcs, or convince them of anything. He is the fucking Dark Lord...
I watched season 1 chapter 1... after the first 5 minutes I was "This is cool, an adventure show!" By minute 15 I knew I was not going to watch anymore chapters. By the end of the chapter I couldn't believe that they actually spent money in making this community college parody dumpster...
I watched a video about Rings of Power that claimed Amazon bought the rights to The Hobbit and the LOTR movies but not the actual Silmarillion book where 99.99% of the lore comes from. So, they're essentially in a position where they have to make up the entirety of the series. But they're not actually talented enough to do that so they used every trope imaginable and identity politics in place of actual storytelling and character development in the hope that the denizens of Twitter would give them money.
I believe this is innacurate. They do have the rights to the Silmarillion and ONLY Silmarillion. This is why they can't have Gandalf in the show and have to hint and wink at it, it is a guarantee that in 5 seasons they will never call the Wizard by the name Gandalf. What they have in terms of the films is distribution rights on their streaming platform but not creative/production rights. There is not and won't be a single character in this show that is not referenced in the Silmarillion.
3:12 Oh, don't worry, Movie Cynic..we ain't watching any of this garbage..🗑️
... but thank YOU for taking one for the team!...again.
I've been sitting, watching and shaking my head. What have they done to these characters? The actual story so beautifully handles all of these concepts and events, and provides all the opportunities you could want to graft a bit of meat onto the bones if you needed to. Instead, let's jumble up and butcher the timeline, insert simplistic plot mechanisms like "Celebrimbor fell for Sauron because someone managed to ambush Elves" and then desperately try to shoehorn evil and conflict into the Three by polluting three of the most incorruptible Elves in history - Galadriel, Elrond and Gil Galad.
Even the way they talk about "invading Mordor." "Let's attack from the east. Let's attack from the west." As if Mordor ever had any accessible entrance except the Morannon, other than going around the mountain range that would be the equivalent of walking from the Morannon to the Shire.
Galadriel magically keeps avoiding consequences like a deadbeat father. It’s really crazy how she threw Elrond under the bus over her mistake.
They shaved off Cirdan's beard.
Whats wrong with this shit is that instead of Tolkien we get some random idiot writing the prequel to LotR. No one knows who he/she/they/it? is but theyve spend 1 billion so ppl are watching it.. WTF
I watched the first 3 episodes and got so upset that I watched the first two LOTR extended editions and will watch the Return of the King to cleanse my mind. Trying to create sympathy for orcs is like trying to create sympathy for Nazis. Orcs are pure evil.
I had sympathy for the orcs, when it was explained how they were made. They’re simply monsters and there is nothing good in them anymore.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for watching this dumpster fire in my stead and making a funny video about it.
I remember nothing from Season 1, I thought Theo was just young Isildur, and then they're in the same scene together, Queen Blind dips ducks dodges and dives, there's too many "If you were really my friend..." scenes... I'm sooooo bored. And it's all too damn dark.
Apparently Sauron can be killed by a thorn crown. DO they really think the sword that cut off Sauron's hand is just a normal sword?
The actress that played Black Lemongrass's woman left the show to go fight for woman's rights in countries where women are oppressed.🙂✌️ She's all...Iran is a better place to be than part of this show.😄
Thanks for being honest about how trash this is. It's not trash because of the diverse cast, it's trash because of horrendous dialogue and because it abandons the source material for a much much much worse overall story
As for the ogre who worries about his wife and son, we can say that Rankin-Bass' film was a long shot.
"Where there's a whip, there's a way.
We don't want going to war today! But the lord of the lash says "Nay, nay, nay!"
Evil in Middle Earth... Melkor, Morgoth, Morfydd.
orcs comes from"spores moles and fungus" Ivan reitman
Bro your commentary is f ing hilarious on this one.
Yanks rocking English literature. It did not work.
yeah, I really love their bullshit cringey promotional video of Galadriel under a tree and Sauron sitting in a tree looking down at her and it says "Evil takes root". Pretty good thematic choice considering Galadriel was barking up the wrong tree for eight whole episodes.
I get tons of entertainment put of ROP. Just watching the reviews makes it worthwhile for me lol.
Tolkien fandom should treat this garbage as PJO fans treat the "Percy Jackson movies"
Deny their existence at all costs and gaslight everyone into thinking it never existed.