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I haven’t finished the video yet, but I feel Cirdan the Shipwright would be a really great character to see, since he’s really old and wise, and has been through much in Tolkien’s legendarium. Perhaps Glorfindel would be an awesome character to unveil also. So far your video looks great!
If you haven’t already, the travels of Elrond would be a joy to hear recounted. Thank you for breathing such wonderful life and lore into the worlds of modern fans! I’m a longtime lotr fan and still your videos teach me details I never knew or forgot, such as Samwise replanting the party tree with Galadriel’s gift. Be well!
Galadriel’s journey with the Noldor across the Helcaraxë is way better than the revised one where she and Celeborn sailed for Middle Earth independently
@@inspektorradisha well the thing with feanor was before fhe silmaril and all tragedy, so she had no reason to give that bitch feanor her hair. On Gimli, he was part on an important mission to destroy the one ring, which was important to her. So she gave any motivational support she could do. When Sauron wins, all her hair is nothing worth with the risk of getting killed ;)
I really appreciate Gimli's love of Galadriel's beauty. It's mysterious in a way, because we almost always think of a male admiring a female's beauty in a romantic way, yet Gimli does not appear to be doing so. It's almost as if he's admiring the beauty of a star, or the natural beauty of the world, personified in The Lady. Respectful, yet genuine. And it takes yet another step towards mending the rifts of their peoples.
It is this way of speaking that people who saw the Virgin Mary in the apparitions use to describe her beauty (the beauty of a creature of God who is full of grace, as the Angel said). Mary (the true Lady) is also compared to a morning star. Tolkien was a Catholic, so perhaps this had some influence on his writing. Here is an example of what I said: ua-cam.com/video/EWDevlijGUI/v-deo.html at 09:40 and 11:47
Think of this echo also , the dwarves maker Aule had a spouse Yvanna - she was the queen of nature . It's like a fractal echo of the Smith Valar and his nature focused wife. Aule and Yvanna , Gimli and Galadriel.
Well considering they both tended to great forests, it's almost a professional curtesy. And also, it's not everyday she meets someone who is actually older than her (who aren't Mayar) in those parts.
Her foresight alerted her to the fact that far in the future, a movie about their lives would be made, and Treebeard's farewell speech would be given to Galadriel in the prologue: "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air. I do not think we shall meet again."
Elf timelines are crazy. Galadriel: “hey babe we’re leaving now. Celeborn: “where are you going “ Galadriel: “oh I think we’ll trek just over the mountains “ Celeborn: “ok then, I’ll catch up with you in about 100 years” Galadriel: “sounds good, deuces “
@@joshuamarvin7400 I never really bought that, even for creatures who have no natural timeline of death. What is a day to our lifetimes? Doesn't mean I won't care what I want to be doing on any given day. Extended timelines like years or decades, this becomes 10x more true. But yeah, I see what the author was going for, and it is kinda funny to see reactions like this. On a side note, one thing I totally do see, is couples living so long might want a break from each other, even seeing other people (if they still actually have as much interest in such things), and while never calling off a relationship, more like - until next time in 80 years or so. I mean, I can half see that, because I do think communication and rendezvous between them and some things probably will happen even in such hiatuses, while still being generally true.
@@adrianbundy3249 Well the Elves of Lotr only ever have one partner even after one dies, and never have casual relationships/sex, Tolkien being the Catholic that he was. But yes maybe time apart is a thing for them in their marriage but not really sure if it’s the way we think.
Gimli going gaga over Galadriel and threatening to literally chop off Éomer’s head just because Éomer insulted Galadriel is some of the best stuff in the book.
Anyone who puts this much thought into a story is very impressive, but Tolkien... Pardon the sacrilege, but if Eru ever walked the earth in a mortal form: it was in Mr. Tolkien, in that respect
I always say this: George Lucas wrote a story and said “ i need a universe to go with it” Tolkien built a world with mythology and everything and said I should put a story in here somewhere
@@drolleskate6164 It's even more loopy than that - I'm pretty sure he started by creating a couple of the languages and then thought "These languages need a world to exist in". What an absolute madman and I love him for it 😀
Can anyone confirm, or deny, that Tolkien and his wife could both speak Elvish (she learned it)? And what a power move that is, as a British couple who, no doubt, entertained many guests, to have two people over who spoke a different language together start conversing in private in their native tongue, just to have that trick returned in kind _in Elvish!_
No. More like the discord in the house of Fëanor, ruining the good name of all the Elves. So it's not an Elven thing, but Fëanorian - minor number among the Elves, but a loud one. The only noble house of the Elves who Morgoth managed to tempt, and yet, or thus - the house who hated Morgoth the most.
This is why I treasure Dol Guldur scene in Hobbit. And freaking hell, do I want to see her assault on the Dol Guldur before Nenya withered away. Oh man, how I greatly desire to see that.
Gandalf's deferral was to me a betrayal of the the story itself. All Maia, who began before the world, were semi-divine spirits. Smaller God's. Gandalf the Grey, a Maia, was higher in stature, and power, then Galadriel, most of her prowess was based on the possession of Nenya, the ring of the water. SJW was subjectivity instilled.
@@vi683a Personally I also wasn't a fan of the scene when Galadriel overpowered Sauron by herself. But I disagree that is any kind of "betreyal" to the story. Galadriel's power surpassing Gandalf's isn't something taken straight from the books but it's not something that goes against them. In Tolkien mythology strongest of the Noldor Elves (and Galadriel was one of the strongest for sure) sometimes could go on pair with Maiars - like spell-battle between Finrod (Galadriel brother) and Sauron, or Ecthelion killing Gothmog (Barlog's leader). Another Barlog was killed in duel by Glorfindel. Their high king Fingolfin fought Morgoth and was able to wound him few times. In the books 5 Istari who came to MiddleEarth forgots a lot from their original knowlege and power. The idea was to make them closer to humas so they would lead fight against Sauron by council, not by ruling as another semi-gods figure like he did. So if you take those details and add also that Sauron in Dol Guldur was still far from his true power you can make fair argument why Galadriel was the one who banish him. It's not the concept that i like but it's not something that would break book's spirit.
@@vi683a She was alive in Valinor during the time of the two trees. Like Glorfindel, she walks in both worlds. She is second only to Feanor in power among the Noldor (but greater in wisdome). She was great and powerful when the sun first rose. How much more powerful would she be 3 ages later, after all of that experience? Don't forget, of course, what ever she may have learned from Melian in Doriath, (or from the Valar themselves in Valinor). I'm sure having a ring of power doesn't hurt, especially since it preserves her power, while that of Sauron has waned over the millennia.
@@vi683a Like other people have stated; It was said she was second to Feanor in power, but greater in wisdom. It is hinted though that she his equal. She was born during the time of the two trees; a time where magic was the strongest it has ever been and it had its effects on her. Even before she got Nenya she already had magic till some extent. The communication through her mind was a gift she already possessed before using the Ring and I'm sure that this wasnt the only magic she possessed. I also read somewhere that in contrary to what a lot of people believe: her looking watery, withered etc. because of Nenya (Ring of Water); it was her entering a special Wraith form that only very powerful Elves can enter; I do believe in this and it would make sense why in the movies even Elrond and Saruman are impressed by her power as this is a feat not a lot of Elves manage to do. Also her proclaiming that Lothlórien would only fall if Sauron would be there himself (with his Ring) shows how strong she actually is. Also it was not her who ''felt'' that Sauron betrayed them after he made the ring; when he showed up and asked to make the rings she was already suspicious of him and warned Celebrimbor which made him slightly alter the ''recipe'' for the Elven rings. This would also be the reason why she would get a ring of her own.
It's interesting to me that Gimli's decision to have his gift embedded in crystal sort of mirrors how Fëanor created the Silmarils. With how the story goes among Elves that Galadriel's hair had captured the glow of the Trees, and how Fëanor made the Silmarils to do the same, then it really warms the heart to know that Gimli's request was made only with the intent to found a new friendship between Elves and Dwarves - a symbol of friendship and love rather than skill and envy.
This is the first time I've heard about Galadriels ban from Valinor, and that it was lifted after she resisted the One Ring. Or at least, I never connected those dots. That lends an amazing dimension to the scene where she was tempted; She rejects the power of the ring (which plays to her own desires) for the sake of protecting the world, and through that very act, she ultimately gets something far better. It illustrates resisting temptation as prioritising what IS good over what FEELS good, and the long-term over the short-term. Always cool to find new angles to a piece of literature one has known for ages.
There’s always more in Tolkien, isn’t there? It as if it’s so imbued with truth that it is as fractal and many-splendored as truth itself. It’s really ineffable.
I'm really digging these longer journey videos Matt! It's a great way to visualise the movements of the various characters and factions involved and get a better understanding of their context. Keep them coming my friend!!
@@YumYum820 couldn't have said it better. To listen in on the exchange of ideas between a couple content creators of such outstanding talent is analogous to a bodacious crossover between a pair of excellent story franchises.
I agree. Wisdom beyond measure. I contemplate this all the time, and I reach the conclusion thatbit is beyond my thought. I dont think our human minds are designed for prolonged lifespans, even if future medicine and science seek to extend it
I was about to make a comment just like this. It really is incredible to think that small periods of her life were spent living lifetimes of ours in certain places. Every time I start to trace through the history and hear about one figure or another, it makes me feel so small to think about how vast and timeless it is.
@@Michael-qb6qe I'd say it depends. I heard somewhere once that we have an estimated 500 years of memory space in our brains, so lifespans of 500 years would essentially be possible. But let's say we found ways to extend our lifespans that far. If we can find such ways, surely we can also find ways to extend our brains memory cap, as well as the very way our brains work. If we find ways to extend our lifespans by modifying our genome, we literally become GMO - Genetically Modified Organisms. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. If we find out how to extend our lifetimes indefinitely (or at least till the end of time/space itself), think not of how much horror we could cause, but rather how much good we could make. What if the worlds greatest climate scientists could live for thousands of years? How much knowledge wouldn't they be able to gather for their field? And how much faster wouldn't we be able to understand our planet and our impact on it, as well as how to stabilize and fix it? What if we knew everything about every animal here on Earth. How fast wouldn't we be able to save an animal that was hurt? If we figure out how to live indefinitely, we can literally become the elves of Tolkien's world. And if the origin of the Eldar is what speaks to us the most, why not pursue that origin? An origin does, after all, not have to be physical. It can just as easily be existence birthed from a thought, as was the case of the Eldar and Eru Illúvatar.
I imagine in much Elven lore (Not necessarily Tolkien's) part of the aloofness of the elves regarding races with much shorter lifespans is that befriending those who will live and die so quickly is painful to watch similar to a parent burying a young child. Living a thousand or more years would be as much a curse as a blessing in many cases especially in Tolkien's world where many elves had witnessed ten thousand or more years of misery from Morgoth, Sauron, and their minions and countless deaths of allies and friends whether from war or simply old age taking even a Numenorean in a few hundred years or a standard human in less than 100, which might seem but a month to an elf. I'd think their perception of time would be very peculiar to a human. There are many elves of Tolkien's world that have lived longer than all of human recorded history in our world. Imagine someone being able to say, I was there when "Bob" invented writing, or I was there when "George" got the idea to plant seeds instead of just trying to eat them.
I never realized how deep with meaning the moment with Gimli and Galadriel actually is. I always just assumed he thought her hair was beautiful. Turns out her hair is not just beautiful in the traditional sense, it is imbued with the light and divine beauty of The Trees. Also, Galadirel has had a pretty epic life.
@@JohnSmith-is4uu Do we know for sure when Tolkien came up with the lore from Unfinished Tales? Because he definitely started writing The Silmarillion before even The Hobbit.
@@RbkARI True, but he was also RE-writing a lot of that old material right until his last days. So it could have been before The Hobbit, after The LotR, or any time in between...
I want to believe each of 3 hairs meant to be a reward for something: - One hair for Gimli's mannerism and humility for he showed lack of greed when it came to a gift. - The second was for honesty, for he named his desire when she asked but still showed courtesy. - The third strand of hair was because of what Gimli says he would do with it: a memento of a meeting, heirloom to a house and a pledge of goodwill between the Dwarves and Elves.
And a reference to the three times Feanor asked for her hair for greedy purposes and was rebuffed. He wanted just a single hair for his ends, but she knew he was wicked and would give him none. Gimli admitted he would like a hair only under duress, And wished it only as a symbol of goodwill between elves and dwarves. So it was a similar situation but the motives are different. EDIT: HOLY COW autocorrect/voice text really messed me up here. Sorry guys.
Really nice! Would have been nice to mention that on her way to the grey havens she passes through the shire and, upon seeing Sams work to restore it, is greatly pleased by how he used the earth and the Mallorn seed she gave him. Not just for himself and his Garden, but for all the land of his people and to heal it. She tells him that she sees that her gift has been used in a wise way.
Well presented. It’s always remarkable to think that all those events at the end of the Third Age with The Hobbit & LOTR are barely a moment in Galadriels story. She saw the light of the two trees of Valinor, witnessed the betrayal of Morgoth, lived in Beleriand before the deluge, crossed the Helcaraxe on foot, witnessed Numenor, Gondolin, Doriath, Nargothrond and on and on. You can do a lot in 9000yrs.
I think the strength of Galadriel to deny the temptation of the one ring is under appreciated, particularly in comparison to Gandalf. Gandalf has no power lust. But she did at least in the past. She grew beyond that.
I'm fairly sure most people including Gandalf have temptation for the ring. The only one I've heard of that didn't have temptation was Tom Bombadil. Gandalf didn't want to be the keeper of the ring because he is concerned about what would happen if he put it on and he became evil. That's why he gave it to Frodo.
@@crpggamer agreed. All I meant is that it is known Galadriel had some desire for power when she was younger. Gandalf was more hobbit like shall we say, in the sense that he found happiness simple things.
Galadriel was telepathic, she knew Feänor was a bit rotten. The fact that he unfriended her for not giving him a strand of that white gold says a lot. Not to mention elves take hair very seriously/almost sexually, and she didn’t want her cousin fondling her hair. Gimli was humble, flattering, and in awe, she knew he had a noble heart and gave him three. Healing a little bit of the bad blood between elves and dwarves in the process. Truly the greatest of the Noldor.
I just disagree about the "sexual" thing you're saying. For me it's like: hair=remembrance (like a picture) for Gimli.....and I don't think the elves really thinks something "sexual" about it.😅 And Feanor was her uncle...not cousin...
@@LordVader1094 I’ve always heard that Tolkien’s elves hair was very special which is why it’s always done so perfectly, and was kinda like just very important to them, I feel like even if it’s not sexual it does come off and kinda pervy of him to want her hair so badly Tho I don’t think all their hair is seen as a sexual thing just the way he went about begging for it made it seem so
"That your hands shall flow with gold, and yet over you gold shall have no dominion" I love that phrase, so beautiful. Thank you for making this videos.
Great job! I always wondered whether Gimli ever discovered that the gift he received from Galadriel was one that she'd refused the mighty Fëanor himself? Such a beautiful and touching part of the story.
I wonder how much the other species have knowledge of any of this history. It makes sense the Dwarves would have maintained detailed acounts of battles and such, but who knows if they knew or cared of the motivations and machinations of the elves and valar etc behind it all. Noble men would have some to a lot of knowledge, but the common man would likely be almost entirely clueless about most of what occurred in the early ages. And who knows what kind of knowledge Melkor and Sauron's creations have. When Sam storms the tower to rescue Frodo, the orcs are wracked with fear as they believe a mighty elven king is coming to destroy them. It's my speculation they are aware of Fingolfin challenging Morgoth. I wonder if the orcs have an oral tradition, or if they have basically no knowledge of anything. It wouldn't benefit Sauron for them to have knowledge of Melkor's existence with Sauron as a lesser being. So as descendants of Melkor's twisted creations, perhaps they have genetic memory of significant events like that.
I wish you had gone into greater detail about Galadriel’s lineage, cos it’s pretty fascinating. You mentioned her mother is a princess of the Teleri, but her grandmother (the second wife of Finwe) is also a princess of the Vanya. This means that the children of Finarfin are high nobility of all three clans of the Eldar in Valinor, and this mix is also the explanation for Galadriel’s wondrous hair (gold from the Vanya and silver from the Teleri). This, in combination with Elrond’s peculiar heritage (Noldor, Vanya, Sindar, Maiar, and all three houses of the Edain), makes Arwen and her brothers high nobility of all the great houses of the Children of Iluvatar; a lineage which is then continued into the line of Kings in the Fourth Age.
She is also Arwens grandmother, which means she must have got it on with Elrond at some point?! & as aragon is also kin via ellendil half elven, The brother of Elrond! which would make Arwen Aragons great great aunt or something! Lot of incest went on in the royal families in Tolkien's times?
@@markbritton6798 no, you’ve got quite a lot mixed up here… Grandmother means there’s a generation between. Galadriel and Celeborn have a daughter, Celebrían, who is the wife of Elrond and mother of Arwen and her brothers. Elrond’s brother is Elros, who was the first king of Numenor. By the time of Elendil, there’s been at least 20 generations. Then comes a few thousand years worth of generations of the Dunedain of Arnor before Aragorn is born. Therefore Arwen is not Aragorn’s Aunt, she’s his first cousin, but first cousin at least 50 times removed; which hardly counts as incest. Elrond’s great grandfather was Turgon, Galadriel’s first cousin. Making Elrond and Galadriel first cousins three times removed and Elrond and Celebrían second cousins twice removed (I think). Which by royal terms is barely incest at all.
@@NerdoftheRings oh indeed, there is no doubt. I'm a deeply fan of the lore and knowing the history between dwarf and elf. Bah, it's honestly an over looked scene, if you ask me. Like it's so subtle and profound. Truly beautiful.
@@christianstout6390 It is indeed one of the most beautiful moments of the LotR story. It really touched me the first time I read the books in my teens, and I was glad they included the scene in the movies as well. Still brings a tear to my eyes when I read that part.
Fun fact -By the end of the War of the Rings Galadriel was already 8000+ years old. The last surviving royal heiress of Finarfin, her father who is the King of the Noldor in Aman.
This video alone makes you realise just how much they twisted and warped Galadriel's character for the sake of a TV show... RoP Galadriel is a hateful, spiteful termagent by comparison to the one described by Tolkien.
This was an absolute treat to watch. Seeing how Galadriel's travels intersect with major events in the story really provides us with a clearer picture of what was happening. This was such a good video
Galadriel’s journey with the Noldor across the Helcaraxë is way better than the revised one where she and Celeborn sailed for Middle Earth independently
What a clear and great summary. Tolkien's mythology nevertheless is quite complex. Galadriel's rejection of the Ring of Power is one of the greatest passages in all of literature.
I have to second the comment above on your gift for underscoring the depth and beauty of Tolkien's lore. I tear up in every other video, it seems, and definitely this one. I learned a lot from this, even though I've been reading and re-reading the books and lore for over 30 years now. Thank you.
If most of the people who loved the Rings of power show had watched this video or read the books and found out about "Galadriel being wiser than feanor, the only being in middle earth who can beat sauron." The wise elf who had chosen to travel across the blue mountains with her HUSBAND as she had no interest in the being apart of the battle of the jewels in the first age. It would show how big of a contradiction towards the Galadriel they're creating. Maybe they might think....hey those people upset with this shows galadriel may have a good reason to be upset. And that they're not being toxic.....or sexist or bigots for being like. Hey nah that's garbage how you guy's are making her a sword swinging commander. She's telekinetic, her gaze can hypnotize men....her hair glows gold, has forsight, a ring of power and she can disguise an entire army of rohan soldier's. She has the power that surpasses the strongest maia in middle earth and is bound to no man. She blew up a fortress for goodness sake 🤣 I'd like to see any other elf destroy a fortress with raw power. And rings of power are like nooooope.....forget that give her a sword and armour take out her magic hair and chuck a couple of insults towards men and booom....Now she is strong...ohh and kill her husband and make her hot headed. 🙄🤦♂️ it's painful.......
As everyone else has already said, these videos are wonderful! They are indeed a great way to visualize the movements of people, and a great way to relive the series. Thank you for making them :)
I am thrilled that so many have been enjoying these videos! Thank you for watching/subscribing! It truly means a lot to know my work is being enjoyed. 😊
😃 Really nice job, NotR! I have always loved Galadriel, and her words when Frodo offers her the One Ring: "...I shall pass into the West, and remain Galadriel." When the movies came out, I'm sure I'm not alone of us who were sitting in the theater reciting lines as they came. I was rather pleased with how Jackson handled that scene. 😊 Cate Blanchett was a nice choice to play her. 😏
The writers and producers of The Rings of Power should have just hired you and some artists to do the series. This video is far more entertaining and satisfying then the billion dollar turd Amazon dished out. Very well done.
They really explained very poorly Galadriel's background before the events in the show, didn't they?? Weird unnecessary flashback with random mean kids and nothing of all this epic past 😔😢
It's impressive just how poorly they adapted her. It's Iike whatever hack they hired knew she was powerful so they made her a warrior with a perpetual stick up her ass.
'Billion dollar turd'!! Yes! Quite apt. TRoP was exactly that. Oh and that sort of spells TROPE as well... 🤣 Though I also attribute that 'b.d.t.' epithet to some RL politicians. ONE in particular, but I will not say who.
I read an article in which Tolkien's son states that his father never had a chance to finish fleshing either Galadriel or Celeborn out completely ... they were late additions, and he was still working on them ... writing, changing, writing, and changing some more. Tolkien's son: "There is no part of the history of Middle-earth more full of problems than the story of Galadriel and Celeborn, and it must be admitted that there are several inconsistencies ’embedded in the traditions’" Article author, Jeff LaSala: "None of Tolkien’s pre-LotR works included Galadriel. He hadn’t invented her at all until he was writing about the Fellowship’s arrival in the woods of Lórien. But after The Lord of the Rings? Well, now she was there, staring him in the face, demanding to be placed in all that ancient history he’d been laboring over for years. She was like a golden wrench thrown into the works-valuable but complicating. Tolkien had obviously made her important. So he began to retcon her into the Elder Days. Retconning is something writers do. It’s fine. They get to. It’s not even weird; it’s normal. And he was generally very good at it. Still, what he was devising for Galadriel was, ultimately, not only unfinished but also wildly varied." ( www.tor.com/2022/08/31/where-in-the-world-is-galadriel-in-the-second-age-and-for-that-matter-where-is-celeborn/ )
When I read the LTR in 1969, at the end of the return of the King, samwise also went to the grayhavens and into the undieing lands. As he himself was a ringbearer if only for a short time.
I like the theory that Tom is the embodiment of the song itself. That he is the representation of being. Like Ungoliant is of darkness, or nothingness.
He did, eventually, but not with Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel. The book ends with Sam returning to Rosie in the Shire. But you are right, in the appendices, I don't remember which one, Samwise is taken to Valinor.
@@DrRainbowBecca You may be right, From the "One WIKI to rule them All" page : The origin and nature of Tom Bombadil are unknown; however, he claimed he already existed before the Dark Lord came to Arda[1], signifying he may have been alive even before the coming of the Valar (it is unclear whether he refers to Melkor's first or second entry into the world.). In any case, Tom is insinuated to have been the first living creature to inhabit Arda.
So Galadriel didn't really charge on horseback into battle wielding a sword. She fights with usuingher magic and her ring Nenya. This is sooooo much more interesting than the Amazon portrail of her.
Tolkien specifically said that Galadriel was an Amazon type, but he meant in the Greek way. She was tall and strong and had a deep voice. She could ride and wield a sword AND she was visionary.
"Among the Eldar, Galadriel's power is second only to Feanor, although she surpasses him in wisdom." Okay, fair enough, but surpassing Feanor in wisdom is a VERY low bar to clear...
Wow! Greatness! You don't truly understand how powerful, how wonderfully good and how important Galadriel is in the grand scheme of things until it gets laid out for you by Nerd of the Rings so brilliantly. Methinks Galadriel is may be my favorite character. She reminds me of my mom, god rest her soul.
Its amazing how your retailing of Galadriels story can almost bring me to tears while The Rings of Power touches me about as much as a refrigirator commercial.
I just thoguht of something. On a previous video I asked why Galadaial did not destroy Dol Guldur her first time going there. I think Dol Guldur like Barad Dur foundation may have been made with the One Ring, so even she could not destroy Dol Guldur until the Ring was gone.
Thank you for these videos and your breakdowns of the Rings of Power. It really helps differentiate the show and the actual correct lore, so the show can be relatively enjoyed for what it is.
Excellent job! I love that you explain everything with the maps and pictures of the characters. It’s almost like watching a movie! Can’t wait for the next one.
I liked the portrayal of Lady Galadriel in Fellowship of the Ring. Perfect casting IMO. And the Mirror of Galadriel scene was one of the greatest things I've ever seen...you know...where she totally changes and we see a glimpse. That's great writing and movie making....seeing only the glimpse. It was kinda scary.
Just discovered this channel! I love learning about all of the early stories of middle earth, but have struggled reading them some. The visual aides help so much! Keep up the great work - subscribed!
Rewatching this after first few RoP episodes and wow how different is it. There is no evidence of her being married in the show 1000s of years after she should have been
That show deviated from Tolkien's work and the producers are just using the name of the LOTR to gain viewership. It's merely their own "interpretation" of Tolkien's work, and they don't seem to care how far it is from the original.
Beyond the Circle of the World were the gloomy Halls of Mandos, where awaited the departed souls of the Eldar until the Last Day. And Fëanor beheld the Lady Galadriel conferring upon Gimli the son of Gloin a gift far surpassing what he himself had desired to obtain. He glared at the sight, and his fists were clenched. "Thy fury ill-becomes thee, son of Finwë," murmured Mandos, standing behind the deceased elf, dwarfing him by more than twice his stature. "Greater sorrows than this are borne out of thy misdeeds." "But none quite so bitter as this, Lord of the Realm of the Departed," he answered curtly. "That one of these stunted and uncouth Sons of Durin should be treated so lavishly..." "He is lifted up in his humility, as thou wert brought low in thy pride," came the reply. And Fëanor bowed his head in shame. It was true. Of all the recriminations to be endured in this existence, such humiliations carried a special exquisite agony
I am so invested in knowing EVERYTHING about the world of Tolkien for the past four years and still it seems like I know nothing! I have read all the books, watched more than a 100 hours of videos and still there is always something new! I mean...I only learned last week of the Nameless Things. The only big issue I have is that there is literally not a single person that I could enjoy discussing with this huge and amazing world that mister Tolkien has created...
Missing are: 1) Galadriel losing her daughter, as she was forced to leave Middle-earth after being tortured by orks, and 2) her role of matchmaker that Galadriels played in facilitating Arwen falling in love with Aragorn by clading him in Elven clothes on his visit in Lothlorien (Galadriel lost one of her brothers when he declined to marry his human lover due to war time and as such ended up in Mandos without the desire of leaving it and refusing reembodiment. Also Finduilas was her (grand-) niece. As such Galadriel knows that an fated but unfulfilled human-elf union brings more harm than good.)
@@Makkaru112 That has been mentioned. But Galadriel has seen the success of Luthien, and knew df the desaster of Finduilas. She didn''t want such a fate for her granddaughter.
@@Makkaru112 Watch the video again (7:27) she had three brothers. Finrod was the almost- brother-in-law of the woman you have mentioned, as such Galadriel was her almost-sister-in-law. The debate was with Finrod.
@@tomdumb6937 According to Tolkien she went to abandoned Lorien and died there a year later? She was unable to go via the streigh road as a mortal, only exception being made for the ring-bearers.
The final few minutes of your video, telling of our heroes leaving for the Undying Lands, and their reunion there. Bought a tear to my eye. As it did the first time I read it 45 years ago. Many thanks.
I always completely loved the scene when Legolas asked Gimli, what was his gift from Galadriel. The overfilling pride combined with humbleness when Gimli responded... it just always gets me. And now it get so much better when I know that, she refused to give single hair to another elf. She is special lady indeed.
Haha, let’s be honest, the Rings of Power tv show by Amazon isn’t lore or canon; it’s a corrupted corporation’s modernized reinterpretation fan-film. The timeline of that show alone is a mess, let alone Galadriel’s contrived part in it.
@@funoff3207 In my personal opinion they do. You sound like you’d disagree with me and that’s fine. They tried to be as true as possible to the books and Tolkien’s vision, despite Jackson taking some creative liberties here or there. But Jackson respected the professor and the SOURCE MATERIAL! This show is relying on nonsensical contrivances that have nothing to do with the time period of the Second Age. The Balrog of Khazad-dun didn’t even wake up until like 1,000 of the Third Age, yet it’s doing so in the second age for some reason. The Numenorians never invaded the southlands because Galadriel told them so (smh). They went there to fight Sauron directly. And Isuldur and Erondil weren’t even alive in the second age. Gandalf arrived in the Third Age by boat, not in the Second Age by meteor hahaha! The show is garbage and disrespectful to the lore. Let alone the piss-poor, juvenile dialogue.
Again! Tears. Wow. How come reading the books didn't move me as much as hearing you read & explain out loud? What poetry. Fantastic, and now I finally get what LoTR is all about...
It’s not only the rising of the sun when Fingolfin arrives, it’s the first EVER sunrise, imagine it, the moment he sets foot in middle Earth the sun is seen for the first time.
@19:49: I love the charming interaction between Galadriel and Gimli. At the same time, I can’t help it but laugh at Teleporno’s flabbergasted face. LOL
I wonder if Legolas told Gimli the story of Feanor and his wish to get a strain of Galadriels hair... and if Gimli gets how amazing and outstanding is the gift he had got with this what was denied one of the greatest elven heroes...
Such is the power of Tolkien's work that a mere summary of just one of his characters (not to belittle the excellent work by NotR) can be so emotionally engaging. Almost cried at the end. 😢
I love how you brought the admiration between Gimli and Galadriel to the fore, as i believe the basis to the goodly races was those few, amongst them, who knew that they had to stand together or die apart. Tolkien would absolutely love you.. Great presentation and well met, elf-friend.. 🤙
I'm so glad for bios like yours. It really deepens the moment in which she was tempted by the ring for LOTR fans who haven't read the Silmarillion collection.
I am glad that I am not alone in my tears. I began crying as you read the memory of Galadriel gifting Gimli her hair and wept all the more once she began her final journey into the West. This is such a lovely, moving tale. Thank you.
One of the most amazing channels on UA-cam. My hat's off to you. So well researched. So well-spoken. Pronunciations are accurate and the videos move. Well done.
Which character would you like me to cover next? Whose travels and life do you want to see?
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Do finrod. Hes awesome. But thranduil is awesome to
I haven’t finished the video yet, but I feel Cirdan the Shipwright would be a really great character to see, since he’s really old and wise, and has been through much in Tolkien’s legendarium. Perhaps Glorfindel would be an awesome character to unveil also. So far your video looks great!
Gandalf!
If you haven’t already, the travels of Elrond would be a joy to hear recounted. Thank you for breathing such wonderful life and lore into the worlds of modern fans! I’m a longtime lotr fan and still your videos teach me details I never knew or forgot, such as Samwise replanting the party tree with Galadriel’s gift. Be well!
I would like to hear about Bard, if there is any extensive information on him. Thx for the vids
Knowing that Galadriel didnt give a single hair to the creator of the silmarils, it adds more meaning to when she gave 3 hairs to Gimli.
Galadriel’s journey with the Noldor across the Helcaraxë is way better than the revised one where she and Celeborn sailed for Middle Earth independently
Exactly
Turned out he didn't need them anyway. She just made unnecessary conflict between her and Feanor
@@inspektorradisha well the thing with feanor was before fhe silmaril and all tragedy, so she had no reason to give that bitch feanor her hair.
On Gimli, he was part on an important mission to destroy the one ring, which was important to her.
So she gave any motivational support she could do. When Sauron wins, all her hair is nothing worth with the risk of getting killed ;)
Gimli, the baddest of asses of all Dwarf-folk
I really appreciate Gimli's love of Galadriel's beauty. It's mysterious in a way, because we almost always think of a male admiring a female's beauty in a romantic way, yet Gimli does not appear to be doing so. It's almost as if he's admiring the beauty of a star, or the natural beauty of the world, personified in The Lady. Respectful, yet genuine. And it takes yet another step towards mending the rifts of their peoples.
Indeed. It's a very pure sort of love.
It is this way of speaking that people who saw the Virgin Mary in the apparitions use to describe her beauty (the beauty of a creature of God who is full of grace, as the Angel said). Mary (the true Lady) is also compared to a morning star. Tolkien was a Catholic, so perhaps this had some influence on his writing.
Here is an example of what I said:
ua-cam.com/video/EWDevlijGUI/v-deo.html at 09:40 and 11:47
Think of this echo also , the dwarves maker Aule had a spouse Yvanna - she was the queen of nature .
It's like a fractal echo of the Smith Valar and his nature focused wife.
Aule and Yvanna , Gimli and Galadriel.
That’s actually the classic definition of romantic love.
@@danieltatman3803 or Hephaestus and Aphrodite
I love that she goes out of her way to say hi to Treebeard at the end of the Third Age :')
Well considering they both tended to great forests, it's almost a professional curtesy.
And also, it's not everyday she meets someone who is actually older than her (who aren't Mayar) in those parts.
Her foresight alerted her to the fact that far in the future, a movie about their lives would be made, and Treebeard's farewell speech would be given to Galadriel in the prologue:
"For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air. I do not think we shall meet again."
@@michaelt.5672 It’s like a friendly rivalry with the other bakery on the street.
Elf timelines are crazy.
Galadriel: “hey babe we’re leaving now.
Celeborn: “where are you going “
Galadriel: “oh I think we’ll trek just over the mountains “
Celeborn: “ok then, I’ll catch up with you in about 100 years”
Galadriel: “sounds good, deuces “
What is a century buy a blink to the elves?
Less expensive than couples therapy
@@alex0589 Underrated comment lol
@@joshuamarvin7400 I never really bought that, even for creatures who have no natural timeline of death. What is a day to our lifetimes? Doesn't mean I won't care what I want to be doing on any given day. Extended timelines like years or decades, this becomes 10x more true.
But yeah, I see what the author was going for, and it is kinda funny to see reactions like this.
On a side note, one thing I totally do see, is couples living so long might want a break from each other, even seeing other people (if they still actually have as much interest in such things), and while never calling off a relationship, more like - until next time in 80 years or so. I mean, I can half see that, because I do think communication and rendezvous between them and some things probably will happen even in such hiatuses, while still being generally true.
@@adrianbundy3249 Well the Elves of Lotr only ever have one partner even after one dies, and never have casual relationships/sex, Tolkien being the Catholic that he was. But yes maybe time apart is a thing for them in their marriage but not really sure if it’s the way we think.
The moment between gimli and gladriel is one of the most humble and beautiful moments in the entire toilkens series. Love it.
Eru bless them all
Gimli going gaga over Galadriel and threatening to literally chop off Éomer’s head just because Éomer insulted Galadriel is some of the best stuff in the book.
As a newbie to Tolkien one cant be anything but impressed by the universe this man's created. He took no shortcuts.
Not just no shortcuts.
The man took detours. MANY detours.
Anyone who puts this much thought into a story is very impressive, but Tolkien... Pardon the sacrilege, but if Eru ever walked the earth in a mortal form: it was in Mr. Tolkien, in that respect
I always say this: George Lucas wrote a story and said “ i need a universe to go with it”
Tolkien built a world with mythology and everything and said I should put a story in here somewhere
@@drolleskate6164 It's even more loopy than that - I'm pretty sure he started by creating a couple of the languages and then thought "These languages need a world to exist in". What an absolute madman and I love him for it 😀
Can anyone confirm, or deny, that Tolkien and his wife could both speak Elvish (she learned it)?
And what a power move that is, as a British couple who, no doubt, entertained many guests, to have two people over who spoke a different language together start conversing in private in their native tongue, just to have that trick returned in kind _in Elvish!_
unfriended forever because she wouldn't give up some of her hair is such an elf thing to do.
But they still were snuggle buddies. In an unfriend way.
Because all elves like their snuggles.
No. More like the discord in the house of Fëanor, ruining the good name of all the Elves. So it's not an Elven thing, but Fëanorian - minor number among the Elves, but a loud one.
The only noble house of the Elves who Morgoth managed to tempt, and yet, or thus - the house who hated Morgoth the most.
and so gimli passes...
But then giving it up to some dwarf just because he asks nicely... ;-)
@@Kholdaimon i know right lmao that dude must have been wtf! In his grave
I didn't realize how epic Galadriel's story was. Even in the movies you don't realize how powerful she was. So good
This is why I treasure Dol Guldur scene in Hobbit. And freaking hell, do I want to see her assault on the Dol Guldur before Nenya withered away. Oh man, how I greatly desire to see that.
Gandalf's deferral was to me a betrayal of the the story itself. All Maia, who began before the world, were semi-divine spirits. Smaller God's.
Gandalf the Grey, a Maia, was higher in stature, and power, then Galadriel, most of her prowess was based on the possession of Nenya, the ring of the water. SJW was subjectivity instilled.
@@vi683a Personally I also wasn't a fan of the scene when Galadriel overpowered Sauron by herself. But I disagree that is any kind of "betreyal" to the story.
Galadriel's power surpassing Gandalf's isn't something taken straight from the books but it's not something that goes against them. In Tolkien mythology strongest of the Noldor Elves (and Galadriel was one of the strongest for sure) sometimes could go on pair with Maiars - like spell-battle between Finrod (Galadriel brother) and Sauron, or Ecthelion killing Gothmog (Barlog's leader). Another Barlog was killed in duel by Glorfindel. Their high king Fingolfin fought Morgoth and was able to wound him few times.
In the books 5 Istari who came to MiddleEarth forgots a lot from their original knowlege and power. The idea was to make them closer to humas so they would lead fight against Sauron by council, not by ruling as another semi-gods figure like he did.
So if you take those details and add also that Sauron in Dol Guldur was still far from his true power you can make fair argument why Galadriel was the one who banish him. It's not the concept that i like but it's not something that would break book's spirit.
@@vi683a She was alive in Valinor during the time of the two trees. Like Glorfindel, she walks in both worlds. She is second only to Feanor in power among the Noldor (but greater in wisdome). She was great and powerful when the sun first rose. How much more powerful would she be 3 ages later, after all of that experience? Don't forget, of course, what ever she may have learned from Melian in Doriath, (or from the Valar themselves in Valinor).
I'm sure having a ring of power doesn't hurt, especially since it preserves her power, while that of Sauron has waned over the millennia.
@@vi683a Like other people have stated; It was said she was second to Feanor in power, but greater in wisdom. It is hinted though that she his equal. She was born during the time of the two trees; a time where magic was the strongest it has ever been and it had its effects on her. Even before she got Nenya she already had magic till some extent. The communication through her mind was a gift she already possessed before using the Ring and I'm sure that this wasnt the only magic she possessed.
I also read somewhere that in contrary to what a lot of people believe: her looking watery, withered etc. because of Nenya (Ring of Water); it was her entering a special Wraith form that only very powerful Elves can enter; I do believe in this and it would make sense why in the movies even Elrond and Saruman are impressed by her power as this is a feat not a lot of Elves manage to do. Also her proclaiming that Lothlórien would only fall if Sauron would be there himself (with his Ring) shows how strong she actually is.
Also it was not her who ''felt'' that Sauron betrayed them after he made the ring; when he showed up and asked to make the rings she was already suspicious of him and warned Celebrimbor which made him slightly alter the ''recipe'' for the Elven rings. This would also be the reason why she would get a ring of her own.
It's interesting to me that Gimli's decision to have his gift embedded in crystal sort of mirrors how Fëanor created the Silmarils. With how the story goes among Elves that Galadriel's hair had captured the glow of the Trees, and how Fëanor made the Silmarils to do the same, then it really warms the heart to know that Gimli's request was made only with the intent to found a new friendship between Elves and Dwarves - a symbol of friendship and love rather than skill and envy.
This is the first time I've heard about Galadriels ban from Valinor, and that it was lifted after she resisted the One Ring.
Or at least, I never connected those dots.
That lends an amazing dimension to the scene where she was tempted;
She rejects the power of the ring (which plays to her own desires) for the sake of protecting the world, and through that very act, she ultimately gets something far better.
It illustrates resisting temptation as prioritising what IS good over what FEELS good, and the long-term over the short-term.
Always cool to find new angles to a piece of literature one has known for ages.
There’s always more in Tolkien, isn’t there? It as if it’s so imbued with truth that it is as fractal and many-splendored as truth itself. It’s really ineffable.
Galad to hear this.
I see what you did there
I love a good Tolkien pun. This made me smile. 😁
You win.
Galad is a Damodred.
Ouch, but still... love it
I'm really digging these longer journey videos Matt! It's a great way to visualise the movements of the various characters and factions involved and get a better understanding of their context. Keep them coming my friend!!
Thank you, mellon!
Both of you have ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ quality content thank you
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@@YumYum820 couldn't have said it better. To listen in on the exchange of ideas between a couple content creators of such outstanding talent is analogous to a bodacious crossover between a pair of excellent story franchises.
I feel heavenly for this beautiful interaction of two beings, far from competition and friendly.
The timescale on which this story takes place is just insane. It blows my mind to think about someone living this long.
I agree. Wisdom beyond measure. I contemplate this all the time, and I reach the conclusion thatbit is beyond my thought. I dont think our human minds are designed for prolonged lifespans, even if future medicine and science seek to extend it
youngsters compared to Treebeard and Tom Bombadil
I was about to make a comment just like this. It really is incredible to think that small periods of her life were spent living lifetimes of ours in certain places. Every time I start to trace through the history and hear about one figure or another, it makes me feel so small to think about how vast and timeless it is.
@@Michael-qb6qe I'd say it depends. I heard somewhere once that we have an estimated 500 years of memory space in our brains, so lifespans of 500 years would essentially be possible. But let's say we found ways to extend our lifespans that far. If we can find such ways, surely we can also find ways to extend our brains memory cap, as well as the very way our brains work. If we find ways to extend our lifespans by modifying our genome, we literally become GMO - Genetically Modified Organisms. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. If we find out how to extend our lifetimes indefinitely (or at least till the end of time/space itself), think not of how much horror we could cause, but rather how much good we could make. What if the worlds greatest climate scientists could live for thousands of years? How much knowledge wouldn't they be able to gather for their field? And how much faster wouldn't we be able to understand our planet and our impact on it, as well as how to stabilize and fix it? What if we knew everything about every animal here on Earth. How fast wouldn't we be able to save an animal that was hurt?
If we figure out how to live indefinitely, we can literally become the elves of Tolkien's world. And if the origin of the Eldar is what speaks to us the most, why not pursue that origin? An origin does, after all, not have to be physical. It can just as easily be existence birthed from a thought, as was the case of the Eldar and Eru Illúvatar.
I imagine in much Elven lore (Not necessarily Tolkien's) part of the aloofness of the elves regarding races with much shorter lifespans is that befriending those who will live and die so quickly is painful to watch similar to a parent burying a young child. Living a thousand or more years would be as much a curse as a blessing in many cases especially in Tolkien's world where many elves had witnessed ten thousand or more years of misery from Morgoth, Sauron, and their minions and countless deaths of allies and friends whether from war or simply old age taking even a Numenorean in a few hundred years or a standard human in less than 100, which might seem but a month to an elf.
I'd think their perception of time would be very peculiar to a human. There are many elves of Tolkien's world that have lived longer than all of human recorded history in our world. Imagine someone being able to say, I was there when "Bob" invented writing, or I was there when "George" got the idea to plant seeds instead of just trying to eat them.
I never realized how deep with meaning the moment with Gimli and Galadriel actually is. I always just assumed he thought her hair was beautiful. Turns out her hair is not just beautiful in the traditional sense, it is imbued with the light and divine beauty of The Trees. Also, Galadirel has had a pretty epic life.
To be fair all the deep meaning was made after the fact. Tolkien wrote Gimli part first then the Feanor request etc
@@JohnSmith-is4uu Do we know for sure when Tolkien came up with the lore from Unfinished Tales? Because he definitely started writing The Silmarillion before even The Hobbit.
@@RbkARI True, but he was also RE-writing a lot of that old material right until his last days. So it could have been before The Hobbit, after The LotR, or any time in between...
@@Mertztillithurts Good point.
And a life that has surprisingly lots of conceited pride and power trippiness, at least until the end of the Third Age.
I want to believe each of 3 hairs meant to be a reward for something:
- One hair for Gimli's mannerism and humility for he showed lack of greed when it came to a gift.
- The second was for honesty, for he named his desire when she asked but still showed courtesy.
- The third strand of hair was because of what Gimli says he would do with it: a memento of a meeting, heirloom to a house and a pledge of goodwill between the Dwarves and Elves.
And a reference to the three times Feanor asked for her hair for greedy purposes and was rebuffed. He wanted just a single hair for his ends, but she knew he was wicked and would give him none. Gimli admitted he would like a hair only under duress, And wished it only as a symbol of goodwill between elves and dwarves. So it was a similar situation but the motives are different. EDIT: HOLY COW autocorrect/voice text really messed me up here. Sorry guys.
Really nice! Would have been nice to mention that on her way to the grey havens she passes through the shire and, upon seeing Sams work to restore it, is greatly pleased by how he used the earth and the Mallorn seed she gave him. Not just for himself and his Garden, but for all the land of his people and to heal it.
She tells him that she sees that her gift has been used in a wise way.
And that is how he realized where Frodo was going and brought Merry and Pippin to say goodbye.
@@johndododoe1411 😭
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The Creepy uncle asking for his niece's hair lol
Targaryen moment😈
Piss off Game of thrones@@faiz12345
You have a very special talent for making clear how deep and beautiful Tolkien's lore truly is. Great work!
Shame that Amazon took a dump on his magnificent opus.
Well presented. It’s always remarkable to think that all those events at the end of the Third Age with The Hobbit & LOTR are barely a moment in Galadriels story. She saw the light of the two trees of Valinor, witnessed the betrayal of Morgoth, lived in Beleriand before the deluge, crossed the Helcaraxe on foot, witnessed Numenor, Gondolin, Doriath, Nargothrond and on and on. You can do a lot in 9000yrs.
I think the strength of Galadriel to deny the temptation of the one ring is under appreciated, particularly in comparison to Gandalf. Gandalf has no power lust. But she did at least in the past. She grew beyond that.
I'm fairly sure most people including Gandalf have temptation for the ring. The only one I've heard of that didn't have temptation was Tom Bombadil. Gandalf didn't want to be the keeper of the ring because he is concerned about what would happen if he put it on and he became evil. That's why he gave it to Frodo.
@@crpggamer agreed. All I meant is that it is known Galadriel had some desire for power when she was younger. Gandalf was more hobbit like shall we say, in the sense that he found happiness simple things.
i love the ending when gimli and legolas went to Valinor and meet Frodo, Galadriel and Gandalf. =)
Imagine an interaction between the Valar Aulë and Gimli.
And Sam. :)
"leading her mother to call her Nerwen, meaning 'Man-Maiden'"
it be your own family
😂😂😂😂
No wonder she doesnt like that name.
She had man hands
And a manly deep voice one of which a women doesn't want. Maybe she was the first trans elf
@@mattwroe4776 rent free
Galadriel was telepathic, she knew Feänor was a bit rotten. The fact that he unfriended her for not giving him a strand of that white gold says a lot. Not to mention elves take hair very seriously/almost sexually, and she didn’t want her cousin fondling her hair. Gimli was humble, flattering, and in awe, she knew he had a noble heart and gave him three. Healing a little bit of the bad blood between elves and dwarves in the process. Truly the greatest of the Noldor.
Feanor was her uncle. Her dad and Feanor were brothers. Minor detail I know but still it makes it even weirder and creepier when you think about it.
Good insight !
I am still reading tolkien, appreciate it !
What's your basis for Elves sexualizing their hair? Tolkien never said anything like that
I just disagree about the "sexual" thing you're saying. For me it's like: hair=remembrance (like a picture) for Gimli.....and I don't think the elves really thinks something "sexual" about it.😅
And Feanor was her uncle...not cousin...
@@LordVader1094 I’ve always heard that Tolkien’s elves hair was very special which is why it’s always done so perfectly, and was kinda like just very important to them, I feel like even if it’s not sexual it does come off and kinda pervy of him to want her hair so badly
Tho I don’t think all their hair is seen as a sexual thing just the way he went about begging for it made it seem so
"That your hands shall flow with gold, and yet over you gold shall have no dominion" I love that phrase, so beautiful. Thank you for making this videos.
Amazing narration of the conversation between Galadriel and Gimli. Really brought that passage to life 👏🏼
Held me breathless. This was the very best explanation of Galadriel's life I've ever heard or read. Thank you so very much.
So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Great job! I always wondered whether Gimli ever discovered that the gift he received from Galadriel was one that she'd refused the mighty Fëanor himself? Such a beautiful and touching part of the story.
Probably found this out when he went to Aman for himself
I wonder how much the other species have knowledge of any of this history. It makes sense the Dwarves would have maintained detailed acounts of battles and such, but who knows if they knew or cared of the motivations and machinations of the elves and valar etc behind it all.
Noble men would have some to a lot of knowledge, but the common man would likely be almost entirely clueless about most of what occurred in the early ages.
And who knows what kind of knowledge Melkor and Sauron's creations have. When Sam storms the tower to rescue Frodo, the orcs are wracked with fear as they believe a mighty elven king is coming to destroy them. It's my speculation they are aware of Fingolfin challenging Morgoth. I wonder if the orcs have an oral tradition, or if they have basically no knowledge of anything. It wouldn't benefit Sauron for them to have knowledge of Melkor's existence with Sauron as a lesser being. So as descendants of Melkor's twisted creations, perhaps they have genetic memory of significant events like that.
Legolas and Gimli, friendship goals.
Galadriel and Gimli, admiration goals.
Am not crying, you are!! *sniff*
Don’t forget that she’s an Olympic swimmer too
And an Ice-Troll Nemesis.
I wish you had gone into greater detail about Galadriel’s lineage, cos it’s pretty fascinating. You mentioned her mother is a princess of the Teleri, but her grandmother (the second wife of Finwe) is also a princess of the Vanya. This means that the children of Finarfin are high nobility of all three clans of the Eldar in Valinor, and this mix is also the explanation for Galadriel’s wondrous hair (gold from the Vanya and silver from the Teleri). This, in combination with Elrond’s peculiar heritage (Noldor, Vanya, Sindar, Maiar, and all three houses of the Edain), makes Arwen and her brothers high nobility of all the great houses of the Children of Iluvatar; a lineage which is then continued into the line of Kings in the Fourth Age.
She is also Arwens grandmother, which means she must have got it on with Elrond at some point?! & as aragon is also kin via ellendil half elven, The brother of Elrond! which would make Arwen Aragons great great aunt or something! Lot of incest went on in the royal families in Tolkien's times?
@@markbritton6798 no, you’ve got quite a lot mixed up here… Grandmother means there’s a generation between. Galadriel and Celeborn have a daughter, Celebrían, who is the wife of Elrond and mother of Arwen and her brothers.
Elrond’s brother is Elros, who was the first king of Numenor. By the time of Elendil, there’s been at least 20 generations. Then comes a few thousand years worth of generations of the Dunedain of Arnor before Aragorn is born. Therefore Arwen is not Aragorn’s Aunt, she’s his first cousin, but first cousin at least 50 times removed; which hardly counts as incest.
Elrond’s great grandfather was Turgon, Galadriel’s first cousin. Making Elrond and Galadriel first cousins three times removed and Elrond and Celebrían second cousins twice removed (I think). Which by royal terms is barely incest at all.
@@yael9137 It happens sometimes, its all the similar sounding names & vast lifespans of the elves, just saying they are of the same bloodlines.
So Like, I cried when you got to the part where Gimli and Galadriel spoke. Idk why it made me cry but I did.
It’s a pretty great part of the book.
@@NerdoftheRings oh indeed, there is no doubt. I'm a deeply fan of the lore and knowing the history between dwarf and elf. Bah, it's honestly an over looked scene, if you ask me. Like it's so subtle and profound. Truly beautiful.
@@christianstout6390 It is indeed one of the most beautiful moments of the LotR story. It really touched me the first time I read the books in my teens, and I was glad they included the scene in the movies as well. Still brings a tear to my eyes when I read that part.
I didn't think I would tear up but when gimli asked for one hair i couldn't stop my self
'And she gave me three' 😉
@@commonsenseisntcommonanymo1168 "Suck it, Feanor!"
I just re-read Fellowship and this part made me tear up more than any
@@christiansky942 for me it’s the two towers when Gimli is describing to Legolas the caves of helms deep; such beautiful writing
Yes, indeed. For all of us who have read the books, that is still one of those scenes always make me shed a tear for its beauty and significance.
Fun fact -By the end of the War of the Rings Galadriel was already 8000+ years old.
The last surviving royal heiress of Finarfin, her father who is the King of the Noldor in Aman.
Yeah but we dont know what happened to Maglor -:)
@@christianbolze7092 He stayed on in Arda.
She didn't look a day older than 7500 years....
@@davejohn255 she is actually 9000 plus years old by the end of the 3rd Age
Her brother Finrod is also in Aman very much alive because he was the first to be resurrected from Noldor in exile.
After all this hardships and wars for millions of years, she is finally back home. Such a beautiful story Tolkien wrote for her
Except not how tolkien wrote her lol.
What a beautiful story! Hearing Gimli was welcomed by Galadriel brought tears to my eyes. I didn't realize Gimli so loved Galadriel.
This video alone makes you realise just how much they twisted and warped Galadriel's character for the sake of a TV show... RoP Galadriel is a hateful, spiteful termagent by comparison to the one described by Tolkien.
This was an absolute treat to watch. Seeing how Galadriel's travels intersect with major events in the story really provides us with a clearer picture of what was happening. This was such a good video
Galadriel’s journey with the Noldor across the Helcaraxë is way better than the revised one where she and Celeborn sailed for Middle Earth independently
That’s the revised version, I thought that was the original idea
What a clear and great summary. Tolkien's mythology nevertheless is quite complex. Galadriel's rejection of the Ring of Power is one of the greatest passages in all of literature.
I have to second the comment above on your gift for underscoring the depth and beauty of Tolkien's lore. I tear up in every other video, it seems, and definitely this one.
I learned a lot from this, even though I've been reading and re-reading the books and lore for over 30 years now. Thank you.
If most of the people who loved the Rings of power show had watched this video or read the books and found out about "Galadriel being wiser than feanor, the only being in middle earth who can beat sauron." The wise elf who had chosen to travel across the blue mountains with her HUSBAND as she had no interest in the being apart of the battle of the jewels in the first age. It would show how big of a contradiction towards the Galadriel they're creating.
Maybe they might think....hey those people upset with this shows galadriel may have a good reason to be upset. And that they're not being toxic.....or sexist or bigots for being like. Hey nah that's garbage how you guy's are making her a sword swinging commander. She's telekinetic, her gaze can hypnotize men....her hair glows gold, has forsight, a ring of power and she can disguise an entire army of rohan soldier's. She has the power that surpasses the strongest maia in middle earth and is bound to no man. She blew up a fortress for goodness sake 🤣 I'd like to see any other elf destroy a fortress with raw power.
And rings of power are like nooooope.....forget that give her a sword and armour take out her magic hair and chuck a couple of insults towards men and booom....Now she is strong...ohh and kill her husband and make her hot headed. 🙄🤦♂️ it's painful.......
With you on all of that!
And why even bother with the boat shenanigans when they could have all just swam across like Galadriel - dumb kinslaying elves
Tolkien in writing the character of Galadriel was greatly inspired by the the Blessed Virgin Mary and the divine feminine she embodied.
Fully agree with u..
I almost watching all videos from this Chanel, that makes me feel more disgusting to ROP 🤮🤮🤮
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This was ❤ warming. Galadriel was one of my favorite early character growing up.
She’s pretty awesome for sure! Thanks for watching!
As everyone else has already said, these videos are wonderful! They are indeed a great way to visualize the movements of people, and a great way to relive the series. Thank you for making them :)
I am thrilled that so many have been enjoying these videos! Thank you for watching/subscribing! It truly means a lot to know my work is being enjoyed. 😊
😃 Really nice job, NotR! I have always loved Galadriel, and her words when Frodo offers her the One Ring: "...I shall pass into the West, and remain Galadriel." When the movies came out, I'm sure I'm not alone of us who were sitting in the theater reciting lines as they came. I was rather pleased with how Jackson handled that scene. 😊 Cate Blanchett was a nice choice to play her. 😏
The writers and producers of The Rings of Power should have just hired you and some artists to do the series. This video is far more entertaining and satisfying then the billion dollar turd Amazon dished out. Very well done.
They really explained very poorly Galadriel's background before the events in the show, didn't they?? Weird unnecessary flashback with random mean kids and nothing of all this epic past 😔😢
"Does the audience want to see a huge epic battle...nah let's just show some childhood bullying"
indeed, indeed
It's impressive just how poorly they adapted her. It's Iike whatever hack they hired knew she was powerful so they made her a warrior with a perpetual stick up her ass.
'Billion dollar turd'!! Yes! Quite apt. TRoP was exactly that. Oh and that sort of spells TROPE as well... 🤣
Though I also attribute that 'b.d.t.' epithet to some RL politicians. ONE in particular, but I will not say who.
I read an article in which Tolkien's son states that his father never had a chance to finish fleshing either Galadriel or Celeborn out completely ... they were late additions, and he was still working on them ... writing, changing, writing, and changing some more.
Tolkien's son:
"There is no part of the history of Middle-earth more full of problems than the story of Galadriel and Celeborn, and it must be admitted that there are several inconsistencies ’embedded in the traditions’"
Article author, Jeff LaSala:
"None of Tolkien’s pre-LotR works included Galadriel. He hadn’t invented her at all until he was writing about the Fellowship’s arrival in the woods of Lórien. But after The Lord of the Rings? Well, now she was there, staring him in the face, demanding to be placed in all that ancient history he’d been laboring over for years. She was like a golden wrench thrown into the works-valuable but complicating. Tolkien had obviously made her important. So he began to retcon her into the Elder Days. Retconning is something writers do. It’s fine. They get to. It’s not even weird; it’s normal. And he was generally very good at it. Still, what he was devising for Galadriel was, ultimately, not only unfinished but also wildly varied."
( www.tor.com/2022/08/31/where-in-the-world-is-galadriel-in-the-second-age-and-for-that-matter-where-is-celeborn/ )
Really interesting thanks!
The 3 time the guy asked for her hair is the 3 hair gimli gets from her as a gift!
I was about to write something about this but yesss... it just proves how much of a sick ass Gimili was.
Wow, I was literally just thinking about Galadriels travels after watching your Gandalf video. Amazing work and just subscribed!
So glad you liked it! Thanks for subscribing!
When I read the LTR in 1969, at the end of the return of the King, samwise also went to the grayhavens and into the undieing lands. As he himself was a ringbearer if only for a short time.
Does bombadil get to go?
Juat kidding he must be a maiar...
@@tomdumb6937 it is said that Bombadil is the one a only Iluvatar just messing around at Middle earth
I like the theory that Tom is the embodiment of the song itself. That he is the representation of being. Like Ungoliant is of darkness, or nothingness.
He did, eventually, but not with Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel. The book ends with Sam returning to Rosie in the Shire.
But you are right, in the appendices, I don't remember which one, Samwise is taken to Valinor.
@@DrRainbowBecca You may be right, From the "One WIKI to rule them All" page : The origin and nature of Tom Bombadil are unknown; however, he claimed he already existed before the Dark Lord came to Arda[1], signifying he may have been alive even before the coming of the Valar (it is unclear whether he refers to Melkor's first or second entry into the world.). In any case, Tom is insinuated to have been the first living creature to inhabit Arda.
This Galadriel sounds way more interesting than ROP Galadriel.
Accurate
yes, even with his voice effects🤭
So Galadriel didn't really charge on horseback into battle wielding a sword. She fights with usuingher magic and her ring Nenya. This is sooooo much more interesting than the Amazon portrail of her.
not a horserider in particuler, but she used to be a warrior for some period of time
Tolkien specifically said that Galadriel was an Amazon type, but he meant in the Greek way. She was tall and strong and had a deep voice. She could ride and wield a sword AND she was visionary.
"Among the Eldar, Galadriel's power is second only to Feanor, although she surpasses him in wisdom."
Okay, fair enough, but surpassing Feanor in wisdom is a VERY low bar to clear...
I concur.
Lol, this is true.
Lol 😆
My thoughts exactly.
OOF
Wow! Greatness! You don't truly understand how powerful, how wonderfully good and how important Galadriel is in the grand scheme of things until it gets laid out for you by Nerd of the Rings so brilliantly.
Methinks Galadriel is may be my favorite character. She reminds me of my mom, god rest her soul.
When Galadriel jumped off the ship heading to Valinor because she knew Sauron was still ali....
Oh... wait...
18:11 this exchange was my favorite in all the books. Made me cry big ole man tears when I read it.
Its amazing how your retailing of Galadriels story can almost bring me to tears while The Rings of Power touches me about as much as a refrigirator commercial.
"...all shall love me and despair..." that always gives me goosebumps.
25mins of pure magic. I was transported into another realm listening to all of this. Great stuff you did here!
I just thoguht of something. On a previous video I asked why Galadaial did not destroy Dol Guldur her first time going there.
I think Dol Guldur like Barad Dur foundation may have been made with the One Ring, so even she could not destroy Dol Guldur until the Ring was gone.
Thank you for these videos and your breakdowns of the Rings of Power. It really helps differentiate the show and the actual correct lore, so the show can be relatively enjoyed for what it is.
Great videos, these keep me calm while designing UIs.
I must admit that the more i listen to these, the less original Game of thrones sounds...
Excellent job! I love that you explain everything with the maps and pictures of the characters. It’s almost like watching a movie! Can’t wait for the next one.
I liked the portrayal of Lady Galadriel in Fellowship of the Ring. Perfect casting IMO. And the Mirror of Galadriel scene was one of the greatest things I've ever seen...you know...where she totally changes and we see a glimpse. That's great writing and movie making....seeing only the glimpse. It was kinda scary.
Not so much in the Rings of Power though... Galadriel is over-acted, shallow, and in a perpetual state of MEN-struation.
Just discovered this channel! I love learning about all of the early stories of middle earth, but have struggled reading them some. The visual aides help so much! Keep up the great work - subscribed!
Thanks so much! Glad you found the channel. Thanks for subscribing! 😁
Amanda, give it a go again. The silmarillion is absolutely mind blowing. Read it with the help.of wikis online and a companion book
@@Michael-qb6qe I will have to! It's been a while and I think I'm ready :)
@@Michael-qb6qe any particular companion book? I’ve probably started the Silmarillion 3 times. 😂
Rewatching this after first few RoP episodes and wow how different is it. There is no evidence of her being married in the show 1000s of years after she should have been
"Strong independent female characters"
The timeline is also extremely compressed. Her brother dies defending Beren, but in the series she discusses this with Elrond, Beren's great-grandson.
As of last week, yes she is.
@@professorbutters sad how they shafted our boy Celeborn
That show deviated from Tolkien's work and the producers are just using the name of the LOTR to gain viewership. It's merely their own "interpretation" of Tolkien's work, and they don't seem to care how far it is from the original.
Galadriel will always be my number 1 in Tolkien Legendarium. This video is *chef kiss* perfect.
Feanor must have been pissed when Galadriel gave hairs to Gimli.
Lol
He ded tho.
In his grave he must have been pisssed
Beyond the Circle of the World were the gloomy Halls of Mandos, where awaited the departed souls of the Eldar until the Last Day.
And Fëanor beheld the Lady Galadriel conferring upon Gimli the son of Gloin a gift far surpassing what he himself had desired to obtain. He glared at the sight, and his fists were clenched.
"Thy fury ill-becomes thee, son of Finwë," murmured Mandos, standing behind the deceased elf, dwarfing him by more than twice his stature. "Greater sorrows than this are borne out of thy misdeeds."
"But none quite so bitter as this, Lord of the Realm of the Departed," he answered curtly. "That one of these stunted and uncouth Sons of Durin should be treated so lavishly..."
"He is lifted up in his humility, as thou wert brought low in thy pride," came the reply.
And Fëanor bowed his head in shame. It was true. Of all the recriminations to be endured in this existence, such humiliations carried a special exquisite agony
@@wrybreadspread ugh fanfic.
I love the way you have the characters pictures to show armies and so forth makes the storey much easier to understand :)
Guy: What ring is that!?
Galadriel: Nenya...
Guy: Nenya?
Galadriel: Nenya business! BOOM SUCK IT!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA 😂😂😂😂😂🤽🏿♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Let me guess...
Avatar the last airbender?
Omg why did I just laugh so loud?
@@yanmarin4445 Joke's way older than ATLA.
This is the burn that destroyed Dol Guldur.
I am so invested in knowing EVERYTHING about the world of Tolkien for the past four years and still it seems like I know nothing! I have read all the books, watched more than a 100 hours of videos and still there is always something new! I mean...I only learned last week of the Nameless Things. The only big issue I have is that there is literally not a single person that I could enjoy discussing with this huge and amazing world that mister Tolkien has created...
I've been binging these videos. And the more I learn about the history of middle earth I realize how much more beautiful and rich the stories are.
Missing are: 1) Galadriel losing her daughter, as she was forced to leave Middle-earth after being tortured by orks, and 2) her role of matchmaker that Galadriels played in facilitating Arwen falling in love with Aragorn by clading him in Elven clothes on his visit in Lothlorien (Galadriel lost one of her brothers when he declined to marry his human lover due to war time and as such ended up in Mandos without the desire of leaving it and refusing reembodiment. Also Finduilas was her (grand-) niece. As such Galadriel knows that an fated but unfulfilled human-elf union brings more harm than good.)
@@Makkaru112 That has been mentioned. But Galadriel has seen the success of Luthien, and knew df the desaster of Finduilas. She didn''t want such a fate for her granddaughter.
@@Makkaru112 Watch the video again (7:27) she had three brothers. Finrod was the almost- brother-in-law of the woman you have mentioned, as such Galadriel was her almost-sister-in-law. The debate was with Finrod.
@@Chociewitka after the death of aragorn arwen repented and (?!?) Went home to the undying lands. Sam got to go also.
@@tomdumb6937 According to Tolkien she went to abandoned Lorien and died there a year later? She was unable to go via the streigh road as a mortal, only exception being made for the ring-bearers.
@@Chociewitka Exception was also made for Gimli
10/10, if you’re looking for a tv show about Galadriel, this far surpasses Rings of Power
Pronunciation is also better
The final few minutes of your video, telling of our heroes leaving for the Undying Lands, and their reunion there. Bought a tear to my eye. As it did the first time I read it 45 years ago.
Many thanks.
I always completely loved the scene when Legolas asked Gimli, what was his gift from Galadriel. The overfilling pride combined with humbleness when Gimli responded... it just always gets me. And now it get so much better when I know that, she refused to give single hair to another elf. She is special lady indeed.
Why does Tolkien make me cry like a baby everyone I read or listen to stories.
This is totally wrong. You left out when Galadriel traveled to Numenor and demanded to speak to the manager
Underrated comment!
Haha, let’s be honest, the Rings of Power tv show by Amazon isn’t lore or canon; it’s a corrupted corporation’s modernized reinterpretation fan-film. The timeline of that show alone is a mess, let alone Galadriel’s contrived part in it.
@@eddardstark6554 Do the movies get a pass?
@@funoff3207 In my personal opinion they do. You sound like you’d disagree with me and that’s fine. They tried to be as true as possible to the books and Tolkien’s vision, despite Jackson taking some creative liberties here or there. But Jackson respected the professor and the SOURCE MATERIAL! This show is relying on nonsensical contrivances that have nothing to do with the time period of the Second Age. The Balrog of Khazad-dun didn’t even wake up until like 1,000 of the Third Age, yet it’s doing so in the second age for some reason. The Numenorians never invaded the southlands because Galadriel told them so (smh). They went there to fight Sauron directly. And Isuldur and Erondil weren’t even alive in the second age. Gandalf arrived in the Third Age by boat, not in the Second Age by meteor hahaha! The show is garbage and disrespectful to the lore. Let alone the piss-poor, juvenile dialogue.
I'm dead 💀 🤣
Well researched and presented.
Thanks!
Amazon ought to hire him :)
Watching your videos might be more interesting than a show coming on September.
There is no question. Watching PJ Trilogy outtakes is better than Watching the Rings of Cringe.
It always warms my heart when I hear/read about Gimli's interaction with Lady Galadriel. It's such a beautiful interaction.
Again! Tears. Wow. How come reading the books didn't move me as much as hearing you read & explain out loud? What poetry. Fantastic, and now I finally get what LoTR is all about...
Now I understand that Gimli got the greatest gift amongst the fellowship. I now admire Gimli more than ever.
Gimli is such a legend, dude… the only Dwarf to transcend everything…. LEGEND!
And the movies used him for comic relief.
It’s not only the rising of the sun when Fingolfin arrives, it’s the first EVER sunrise, imagine it, the moment he sets foot in middle Earth the sun is seen for the first time.
Always a good reminder and makes my heart happy to see and read the Gimli interaction with Galadriel.
@19:49: I love the charming interaction between Galadriel and Gimli. At the same time, I can’t help it but laugh at Teleporno’s flabbergasted face. LOL
I never knew that Gimli & Legolas sailed west together as well. That really got to me.
Your videos are awesome! Keep it up :)
Thanks! Will do! 😁
This is only an unresolved supposition in the appendices to RotK. For none in this world would have been there to see it.
Hand in hand, they skipped there! :P
@@johndododoe1411 That Tolkien took trouble enough to write it in the Appendices convinces me that it did happen.
I wonder if Legolas told Gimli the story of Feanor and his wish to get a strain of Galadriels hair... and if Gimli gets how amazing and outstanding is the gift he had got with this what was denied one of the greatest elven heroes...
Not to mention the greatest jewelry smith ever.
Gimli smashed feanor in the halls of mandos, proper messed him up he created the first black elf
How come hearing the destinies of these heroes in a hisotical recap gives me tears and watching a series about them doesn't ?
Same bro, especially when she gives her hair to gimli that moved me
She is one of the most awe-inspiring and beautiful characters
Such is the power of Tolkien's work that a mere summary of just one of his characters (not to belittle the excellent work by NotR) can be so emotionally engaging. Almost cried at the end. 😢
I love how you brought the admiration between Gimli and Galadriel to the fore, as i believe the basis to the goodly races was those few, amongst them, who knew that they had to stand together or die apart.
Tolkien would absolutely love you..
Great presentation and well met, elf-friend.. 🤙
This is so much more entertaining, informative, and fun to watch
aka everything NOT on the amazon show. great vid.
I'm so glad for bios like yours. It really deepens the moment in which she was tempted by the ring for LOTR fans who haven't read the Silmarillion collection.
I am glad that I am not alone in my tears. I began crying as you read the memory of Galadriel gifting Gimli her hair and wept all the more once she began her final journey into the West. This is such a lovely, moving tale. Thank you.
“A single strand of your hair, which surpasses the gold of the earth as the stars surpass the gems of the mines.” DWARVENNNN RIZZZZZZZ
I don't mind I like hearing all the travels of all the people of middle earth
I’ll get right on it! One at a time of course. 😁
@@NerdoftheRings lol
This video gave my chills the entire time. Such grace. Turned into a tear hearing gimly make his way over.
One of the most amazing channels on UA-cam. My hat's off to you. So well researched. So well-spoken. Pronunciations are accurate and the videos move. Well done.
Thanks so much! So glad you like the channel! :)