My dually is a 2017 and Ive had not one single issue with this truck. It has ran 100% perfectly for 6 years. Dealer sent me a letter about some flash update like 2 months ago. I threw it in the trash. Not doing it.
Interested in some feed back: Some history: my dealers lead diesel tech is also a good friend. Quick Lube does NOT do my service. He does - so I know things aren't messed with and done right. 2021 6.7. 1st: had this recall done about a month ago. Zero complaints. Hard shifts are gone. Following the recall I proceeded to put 1300 miles on my truck the following week towing our travel trailer. Smooth as butter shifting in all ways. I might be crazy but feel like it has better MPG and power. Here's the fun part: I had/have DPF filter % activated via forscan, auto regen control activated, and a few fun things like bambi mode, etc. Following the reprogram I can no longer turn off auto regen. I did so only to have some control if I was close to regen but not going to get a full regen done before stopping. I also noticed with DPF % on that it would sporadically regen at 30% full one time and 60% full another time, etc... no consistency. With the auto regen off I would wait till 90% to turn it on and let it regen. After the reprogram i notice it goes to 100% before regen. It went to 100% twice now before regen so I'd consider it the norm. Soo.. the reprogram didn't turn off my ability to see DPF% or take away the auto regen on/off screen: but I can't turn it off now. More interesting is this: A few days into our camping trip we did some night driving and i realized my camper lights did not come on with my auto lights when they activated. In fact I had no running lights. Fuse was blown. (fuse 10, 30amp micro). Long long story short: i checked everything. I'll spare you the details. In the end: i determined that after the recall my parking lights came on with my DRLs. Never did before. I even looked at pictures of a camping trip the week prior to service of us crossing an old wooden bridge taken by my BIL in front of me and I had DRL's but no marker/parking lights. I went into Forscan and turned off DRL w/ Parking light option... and bam(!!) no more blowing my fuse. So the program changed some stuff within the truck. So I'd be interested if folks have noticed their parking/marker lights on when in gear now but not before. And I also noticed while in forscan that things like "headlights" showed halogen even though I have LED's. Showed Auxilary Cab Heater disabled - even though my truck has it (live in alaska). Would/did other things get switched on or off that need to be returned to "normal?" Or do those things show "disabled", like aux heater, simply because they are off at the moment. Does headlights showing halogen and not LED matter? There were a few other options I felt were wrong but didn't mess with them because I don't know enough. OH: eco mode: disabled... green leaf comes on when selected - but is it doing anything? anyway. I liked and subscribed. look forward to your knowledge. 2021 F350 12,400GVWR 6.7 - 22 hwy, 13 hauling 8K# TT... super happy.
I'd never seen that consistency. Turned on DPF% screen and saw that it regen sporadicaly at different levels of full between 30 sometimes and 70 others. enabled auto regen on/off toggle and would leave it off till 100. Now after this reboot its going to 100% itself.
I'm going to pop back in and report my findings are now that I've had the truck with this new update for a couple days the transmission shifting is still what I feel from initial boss tremendously improved in every aspect. The other thing I noticed it seems like the throttle is much more responsive everywhere through the powerband most noticeable right off of idle and and slow speed driving.
Super random but i think a video about some must have tools or just tools that make things easier working on powerstrokes would be awesome! Iv found a few I like to keep in my tool box, would be cool to see what other people use
I have 22 f250 6.7 liter it was downshifting hard from 3rd to 2nd to 1st. Had the TCM software update done, I live in Tx, drove it up to Michigan the next day total difference, night and day. Feels like a different truck smooth shifting. Also, I’ve been adding the Hot Shot fuel additive to each fill up, and my regens are not as often as before. I was having them about every week now it’s down to every month or 2. Now I’ve been in and out of shop for 2 of the 4 TPMS sensors failing, and the radio module sucks to. Static In system when adjusting fan for A/C up and down, coming thru speakers.
Well done video. Thanks. I’m just concerned that the update will cause a big loss in mileage. Also my trans shifts perfectly, and I see no need to alter it. Will I get to pass registration in AZ when it needs that for renewal???
Will have to get done. Thanks ARod!! I run Archoil 6500 with fill ups and drive Hwy miles, Don't notice regens and DEF last forever, if that's a concern for some. Love your videos and work. Just wish I was closer to have you touch my truck.
I just picked my 22 up from having this update done my drive home was very short only three miles so of course it's hard to say exactly how things are going to act as it gets a few more miles and everything learns my driving again. But the quick impression the shifts on the transmission are far smoother than they ever were previously. And I noticed one of the ways I tested something was by going extremely slow on acceleration from the stoplight so the truck had to shift into second. And that's where it was even more noticeable how much smoother the shifts are now. Will be interesting to see how acts for the next week and what other Impressions I may have of this update.
I'm a mobile tech at my dealer and I have done about 200 of these updates in the past month or so and sometimes the update also includes the NoX 11 sensor
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod your reply has "translate to English" under it. Click it and it takes one p off yeppp. What foreign language has it spelled with three ?
Thanks for the explanation sir! It's good to break it down for folks, so they understand what is going on with all the modules on board. My thing, coming from an IT background, is, we almost NEVER do firmware updates on stuff unless it's running weird or there are some kinds of compatibility issues with new hardware we're trying to install. I've seen SO many times, where people have upgraded firmware (or a BIOS) on their servers or controllers only to have MORE issues. For me, my truck has been running flawlessly and in Eco mode I see almost 20mpg. It shifts good and just works well, so I'm not going to mess with it. I guess part of me is thinking that there is some backdoor programming going on that people are never going to know about... Just my $0.02. Appreciate you bro!
Fellow IT person here, there are just certain things you don’t do unless it’s properly lab tested and sometimes you just don’t do. Coming from the early days of the 6.0 Powerstroke, MANY people got duped coming into the dealer for the “Free Oil Change” only to leave the dealer with less power and fuel economy than they came with. There is always some secret sauce they put in that they don’t tell you. It seems like this helps more than anything, but I’ll wait to hear what the others have to say.
I'll have to take my truck in for the recall. I'm already happy with it, but if it makes things better, I'm all for it. I wonder how long it will take?@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
A Rod I have a 2013 6.7. Last week it threw a low boost code. It went away for several days. Now it has no boost and there was a little spray on the hood. If you don’t mind what do you think.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod do I need to return the PCM back to OEM settings or am I good to have the 22E04 done and just redo my ForScan settings afterwards?
@Raider113ci yepp juss redo it after. I have done some & nothing changed. It juss depends on what the truck is at & is going to. We do not get to choose what it gets, FDRS does.
Will this resolve the “jerking” when I’m in town/haul mode while using my exhaust brake? When it downshifts to 1st, I feel as though someone ran into me.
I know you love turning wrenches Aaron but you should really be a senior tech that Ford corporate sends out when their are problems other dealer techs can’t figure out ! DO YOU HEAR ME FORD ? THIS MECHANIC IS WHAT YOU WANT !
Been hanging on to this 22E04 letter since July 2023 for my 2022 F250. These comments from guys who have done it and regretted are pretty interesting. Glad I haven’t done it but not sure if they’re referring to the 22E07 recall that changed engine idle or the 22E04 recall that seems to be more about NOx sensor preheat. Either way, if I were to save as-builts of the PCM and TCM with FORscan, couldn’t I revert back if I had it done and decided it sucks?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod You kept typing “read the comments”. You could have just used the same effort to say “yes, pcm side”. Actually LESS letters, so theoretically, quicker. But thanks.
The fact that you keep coming back here to try to make you point, (for that I thank you) clearly emphasizes to me that you've missed the point of my comment "read the comments". I could careless how many letters or the effort that was made. Its okay, the comment section isn't for everyone.
My 2020 f450 runs much better after doing this. Gear shifts are more what I want it to do and does not rev as high anymore. My fuel milegage even increased by about 1mpg due to the changed shifting pattern. Seems to be using low end torque more than the high rpm hp from before the update. The truck is totally different from before, but much better. Accelleration from a stop is awesome now.
Hey Rod, thank you very much for the explanation on the 22EO4, I’m in Anchorage, Alaska, and I have an appointment on the 24th Monday to get it taken care of, just had a curiosity roughly about how long did that take you to do the PCM and TCM software downloads, it look like it was fairly quick within about 20 minutes, but couldn’t tell by the video. Thank you you rock.
That's one thing I despise about doing flash recalls, some take forever to do and warranty pays .2 to .6 for them. We had one a few years ago where the files were uncompressed and would take up to 3 hours to do it. Warranty paid I think 3.3 for it. Then they updated it and now only pay like .5.
I’ve had hesitant starts off the line and a few rough downshifts since I drove my 550 off the lot, I hope this helps even though I’m so used to it by now. Arod what’s your take on swapping out my Orem trans fluid out for amsoil full Syn? Worth it or am I being a diva about it?
Local dealer doesn’t seem interested in the spring seat interface recall. Does your shop have the materials and experienced welder to take care of this?
Any regrets on the update? Been hesitant on the update because I used to have an EcoBoost and Ford updated my PCM 21B10 and my truck was never the same. They recalled it a few times after but never could fix it.
I just performed this recall. After PCM and TCM were uodated Nox sensor module 11 needed ti be updated. I didnt click on anything else , it popped up right after TCM.
Went in to finally get my wiper recall done a week ago and they wouldn’t do this recall. They said some dealer bs about how it’s only for those having issues. Now I have to go back. Ugh
Does this affect the regen ? You mentioned @ 375 miles +/-. My 2021 seems to regen at no set mileage schedule. Most of my "around town" trips are routinely average less than 10 miles, what has my curiosity is, I will check the def gauge, and it seems to stay steady for long periods, sometimes 1500 to 2000 or more miles, indicating that the truck does not regen. but if I drive down to San Diego from where I live in Utah, drive around maybe 1200 / 1400 miles, it will regen 3 or 4 times. Most recent was in October of 2022, when I went to San Diego, and experienced several regen cycles. Upon returning home, I "topped" the def, and it fluctuated between 6000 & 6500 miles of def, and did not drop until June 2023 on my next trip to San Diego, will this update address this "alleged" issue, or is what I am experiencing normal ?
I wish you were in Oklahoma. My ‘21 6.7, with only 38,000 miles, is sitting there with a hole in the side of the engine. I would trust you to take it down and get it back together correctly. They’re replacing the long block, injectors, main engine wiring harness and turbos. Been at the dealership since the last week of February and they are telling me they can’t even get a new turbo until the middle of April. If you could get the parts, I know you would get it back together correctly. I’m so nervous about of it getting put back together correctly.
If I buy the license is this something I can just do instead of going to the dealer? My dealer will keep my truck for over a month if I take it in for this.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodtook my truck to a buddy who works at ford. Dealer said they were 2 months out before seeing my truck. I’m having the same issues. 5-8 delay shifting while towing. (Now does it without towing) tcm showed no updates. Only the pcm.
I got this letter 2 days later check engine light and dpf light came on and message saying 50 miles until limited to 50 mph had recall done lights were off for 20 miles came back on my exhaust filter used to go from 0 to 5 or 10 percent shortly after hitting 0 it hasn't went from 0 in days before lights came on and hasn't moved off 0 in weeks including towing 15,000 lbs trailer
After getting this done, I had to re-enable one of the settings for OCR using Forscan. Just heads up. Mine is a 21. I could see the option to toggle automatic regen, but I couldn't turn it off until I enabled it again.
I noticed the same thing, just made a comment... assume you have your DPF% screen on too... I notice it doesn't call for a regen till 100% now.. And can you remind me where the ability to turn it on and off is found/labeled in forscan? I can see the toggle but can't use it. I was fixing a light issue (see comment above) when I got into forscan so I didn't mess with the auto regen stuff much. And like an idiot I didn't make notes when I switched it all a year or more ago. Thanks! Glad I'm not the only one seeing some changes to settings.
@@alaskaaccurate466 like ARod said, it's only the changes made to the PCM that you need to do again. Look for the auto regen setting in the PCM module.
Mobile tech bricked my 2021 with this update...new pcm required. No water damage or voltage issues. Dealer said it has happened a couple times with this update. Be careful!
Have my appointment first Friday in August. Lately it just feels like my 10spd in my 2022 F350 6.7 Tremor just doesnt shift as well as it used to. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
It sure has on my 2021 350. very pleased. I was having frequent enough "thunks" that my wife paid attn and I was losing faith that the transmission would last long... long trip coming up too... now it's smooth as butter. Have 1300 miles since reboot, and 700+ was towing, and love love love it.
I never update software on anything that works. I don’t see a need. Since I stopped updating windows it quit crashing. No more blue screens Or problems of any kind. It’s impossible for you as a tech to actually know what they really did. They could of installed some kind of government monitoring system
These software updates, does Ford at some point not worry about the older trucks if even years down the road theres a recognized issue. Like on steel bodies...to reduce regens or update for more HP or a better exhaust brake strategy?
3-400 miles between regens on new powerstrokes!?? Meanwhile my 4th gen ram goes 700-1000 miles between regens. My 2013 powerstroke was about 120 miles between regens before I dumped it... Why do Fords run dirtier than the Cummins?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thanks for your answer! I guess I'm going to have to get the CP4 mod done in a mechanic shop. Btw where's your shop located?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Had the 22E04 update yesterday, and auto regen uncheck still works. I see others saying they have to re-enable it with forscan.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have a 2022 7.3 gas and the transmission does some crazy stuff. I was at a red light last went to take off it acted like it was in neutral. After patting the gas a few times it finally slammed into gear. It jerks when starting it in park. It shifts crazy. Does it need to be reprogrammed?
Have a 2020 f350 and have rough shifting on steap inclines when 4 wheeling and pulling my boat up a steap ramp. Will this fix that or is this due to low fluid or something else? 83k had transmission service at 60k by ford. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks Arod and everyone else for the info!
Like I said, no thanks. Truck regens every 500 miles, first superduty(have had 11) that doesn’t regen 150-350 miles. Truck runs good. Back in the early 2000 ford would screw us with mpg hits with flashes.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod lol..impossible. Computer won’t allow 500 miles between regen. It regens At minimum 496 miles if soot content doesn’t kick it sooner. FYI, I think ford f’d up on the emissions for these years and is now required to go back and recalibrate…kinda like what vw went through.
Guess u did t watch till the end.... The letter you got is all is have....if you want to know more....i welcomed you to ask our brothers and sisters in Dearborn
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod my main question was on a 22 550 does the tcm update address the acceleration being almost non existent from a roll in 3rd? And the aggressive downshifts, even letting off the brake to go from a light you get on the throttle and it shakes the whole truck and lunges forward. How are they ok with that
So thats a lot of concerns there pal, I will tell you people are commenting about their post repair shifts & they are good. Like i said in the video if yall want to know more youll have to call dearborn. Thats above my pay grade
You all need to check this out RECALL playlist!
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Yep stickin with my 02 7.3
Finally called to get this done. They came to my house to do the reprogramming. Pretty nice some dealers offer that now!
No more harsh shifts in tow hall or engine brake! Love the update!
Thank you sir!!!!
That will be a welcome change for sure.
My dually is a 2017 and Ive had not one single issue with this truck. It has ran 100% perfectly for 6 years. Dealer sent me a letter about some flash update like 2 months ago. I threw it in the trash. Not doing it.
Agreed! I own a 2018 and I refuse to have the reprogramming done. I honestly don't want my engine idling higher.
Same here!
20E07, yea lotta peeps weren't* happy...goood thing, it's not the same!!!!
Mine went in the circle file as well . No issues on my 2019 so i don't want any !
I just did mine biggest mistake ever. It lost a lot of power and torque...pissed off.
Just had my 6.7 done on Monday! It seems to running smoothly and better than before. I am happy about it!
Thank you sir!!!
Interested in some feed back:
Some history: my dealers lead diesel tech is also a good friend. Quick Lube does NOT do my service. He does - so I know things aren't messed with and done right. 2021 6.7.
1st: had this recall done about a month ago. Zero complaints. Hard shifts are gone.
Following the recall I proceeded to put 1300 miles on my truck the following week towing our travel trailer. Smooth as butter shifting in all ways.
I might be crazy but feel like it has better MPG and power.
Here's the fun part: I had/have DPF filter % activated via forscan, auto regen control activated, and a few fun things like bambi mode, etc. Following the reprogram I can no longer turn off auto regen. I did so only to have some control if I was close to regen but not going to get a full regen done before stopping. I also noticed with DPF % on that it would sporadically regen at 30% full one time and 60% full another time, etc... no consistency. With the auto regen off I would wait till 90% to turn it on and let it regen.
After the reprogram i notice it goes to 100% before regen. It went to 100% twice now before regen so I'd consider it the norm.
Soo.. the reprogram didn't turn off my ability to see DPF% or take away the auto regen on/off screen: but I can't turn it off now.
More interesting is this:
A few days into our camping trip we did some night driving and i realized my camper lights did not come on with my auto lights when they activated. In fact I had no running lights. Fuse was blown. (fuse 10, 30amp micro).
Long long story short: i checked everything. I'll spare you the details.
In the end: i determined that after the recall my parking lights came on with my DRLs. Never did before. I even looked at pictures of a camping trip the week prior to service of us crossing an old wooden bridge taken by my BIL in front of me and I had DRL's but no marker/parking lights.
I went into Forscan and turned off DRL w/ Parking light option... and bam(!!) no more blowing my fuse.
So the program changed some stuff within the truck.
So I'd be interested if folks have noticed their parking/marker lights on when in gear now but not before.
And
I also noticed while in forscan that things like "headlights" showed halogen even though I have LED's. Showed Auxilary Cab Heater disabled - even though my truck has it (live in alaska).
Would/did other things get switched on or off that need to be returned to "normal?"
Or do those things show "disabled", like aux heater, simply because they are off at the moment. Does headlights showing halogen and not LED matter?
There were a few other options I felt were wrong but didn't mess with them because I don't know enough.
OH: eco mode: disabled... green leaf comes on when selected - but is it doing anything?
anyway. I liked and subscribed. look forward to your knowledge.
2021 F350 12,400GVWR 6.7 - 22 hwy, 13 hauling 8K# TT... super happy.
Had mine done about a month ago. Can’t tell any difference except maybe not having a ruff shift down from second to first . That’s about it.
Arod got that wurlitzer organ music jus' vibin' !😂
P miller hahahahah
Beyond top notch. PTT W/A Rod. The man!!
Did this 3 weeks ago. Been waiting on this vid 👍. My regens have been at 500mi… After this recall, regens are still at around 500mi.
I'd never seen that consistency. Turned on DPF% screen and saw that it regen sporadicaly at different levels of full between 30 sometimes and 70 others. enabled auto regen on/off toggle and would leave it off till 100. Now after this reboot its going to 100% itself.
I had my 22 done. Honestly it shifts better now. Was pretty wonky before hand.
I'm going to pop back in and report my findings are now that I've had the truck with this new update for a couple days the transmission shifting is still what I feel from initial boss tremendously improved in every aspect. The other thing I noticed it seems like the throttle is much more responsive everywhere through the powerband most noticeable right off of idle and and slow speed driving.
Thanks 4 the post report
Super random but i think a video about some must have tools or just tools that make things easier working on powerstrokes would be awesome! Iv found a few I like to keep in my tool box, would be cool to see what other people use
I have 22 f250 6.7 liter it was downshifting hard from 3rd to 2nd to 1st. Had the TCM software update done, I live in Tx, drove it up to Michigan the next day total difference, night and day. Feels like a different truck smooth shifting. Also, I’ve been adding the Hot Shot fuel additive to each fill up, and my regens are not as often as before. I was having them about every week now it’s down to every month or 2. Now I’ve been in and out of shop for 2 of the 4 TPMS sensors failing, and the radio module sucks to. Static In system when adjusting fan for A/C up and down, coming thru speakers.
Well done video. Thanks. I’m just concerned that the update will cause a big loss in mileage. Also my trans shifts perfectly, and I see no need to alter it. Will I get to pass registration in AZ when it needs that for renewal???
Thanks for the insider info arod. Ive fixed a few trucks just by updating the pcm and tcm in the recent months
Will have to get done. Thanks ARod!! I run Archoil 6500 with fill ups and drive Hwy miles, Don't notice regens and DEF last forever, if that's a concern for some. Love your videos and work. Just wish I was closer to have you touch my truck.
Have a maryland and Louisiana folks here right meeeow. Thanks buddy. Stay tuned Archoil coming soon
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Colorado here, may have to hit you up! looking forward for your info on Archoil.
Come on my brother. Your real world experience in what actually works and fixes these Alumi Sleds is more valuable
Negative not getting that done anywhere but with PTT
Wise choice Mr diesel!
I just picked my 22 up from having this update done my drive home was very short only three miles so of course it's hard to say exactly how things are going to act as it gets a few more miles and everything learns my driving again. But the quick impression the shifts on the transmission are far smoother than they ever were previously. And I noticed one of the ways I tested something was by going extremely slow on acceleration from the stoplight so the truck had to shift into second. And that's where it was even more noticeable how much smoother the shifts are now. Will be interesting to see how acts for the next week and what other Impressions I may have of this update.
I'm a mobile tech at my dealer and I have done about 200 of these updates in the past month or so and sometimes the update also includes the NoX 11 sensor
Yeppp
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod your reply has "translate to English" under it. Click it and it takes one p off yeppp. What foreign language has it spelled with three ?
My own language
I remember when i had my 08 f350 diesel in for a recall, they did an update without telling me, went from 21mpg to 14....
Does this reset the learn feature on the transmission? How long did it take to perform the updates?
it does not. it is an additional step. about 45 minutes
Do I need to replace both batteries together or can I do one at a time?
Both!
Thanks for the explanation sir! It's good to break it down for folks, so they understand what is going on with all the modules on board.
My thing, coming from an IT background, is, we almost NEVER do firmware updates on stuff unless it's running weird or there are some kinds of compatibility issues with new hardware we're trying to install. I've seen SO many times, where people have upgraded firmware (or a BIOS) on their servers or controllers only to have MORE issues. For me, my truck has been running flawlessly and in Eco mode I see almost 20mpg. It shifts good and just works well, so I'm not going to mess with it. I guess part of me is thinking that there is some backdoor programming going on that people are never going to know about... Just my $0.02.
Appreciate you bro!
Fellow IT person here, there are just certain things you don’t do unless it’s properly lab tested and sometimes you just don’t do. Coming from the early days of the 6.0 Powerstroke, MANY people got duped coming into the dealer for the “Free Oil Change” only to leave the dealer with less power and fuel economy than they came with. There is always some secret sauce they put in that they don’t tell you. It seems like this helps more than anything, but I’ll wait to hear what the others have to say.
Have heard nothing but good things....and def "no free oil change"
I'll have to take my truck in for the recall. I'm already happy with it, but if it makes things better, I'm all for it. I wonder how long it will take?@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
Not long
A Rod I have a 2013 6.7. Last week it threw a low boost code. It went away for several days. Now it has no boost and there was a little spray on the hood. If you don’t mind what do you think.
I'd probably look at that junk a$$, plasteeek cold side intercooler pipe. I'm sure you'll find your problem 😎
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks
Does this update jack up any ForScan changes that have been made?
JUST to the PCM......
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod do I need to return the PCM back to OEM settings or am I good to have the 22E04 done and just redo my ForScan settings afterwards?
@Raider113ci yepp juss redo it after. I have done some & nothing changed. It juss depends on what the truck is at & is going to. We do not get to choose what it gets, FDRS does.
Great explanation of the recall and programming involved.
Great job sir.
Will this resolve the “jerking” when I’m in town/haul mode while using my exhaust brake? When it downshifts to 1st, I feel as though someone ran into me.
Yessssss
I know you love turning wrenches Aaron but you should really be a senior tech that Ford corporate sends out when their are problems other dealer techs can’t figure out ! DO YOU HEAR ME FORD ? THIS MECHANIC IS WHAT YOU WANT !
Ha....too bad if they only felt the same
Been hanging on to this 22E04 letter since July 2023 for my 2022 F250. These comments from guys who have done it and regretted are pretty interesting. Glad I haven’t done it but not sure if they’re referring to the 22E07 recall that changed engine idle or the 22E04 recall that seems to be more about NOx sensor preheat. Either way, if I were to save as-builts of the PCM and TCM with FORscan, couldn’t I revert back if I had it done and decided it sucks?
If we did forscan custom programing, will it reset all the programming and/or will it hinder anything on this recall update?
Read the comments
Instead of answering your question, I got the same response and had to comb through all the bs. Apparently it does on the pcm side
Ud understand if people kept asking you the same thing over & over. Comments hold all sorts of goodies
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod You kept typing “read the comments”. You could have just used the same effort to say “yes, pcm side”. Actually LESS letters, so theoretically, quicker. But thanks.
The fact that you keep coming back here to try to make you point, (for that I thank you) clearly emphasizes to me that you've missed the point of my comment "read the comments". I could careless how many letters or the effort that was made. Its okay, the comment section isn't for everyone.
Thanks for the info ARod. I've got my appointment for next Friday to get this done.
I had over a 100 mile loss in my DTE almost overnight. At least I guess I can attribute to the 21 EO7 update with high idle and loss of fuel mileage
Yea, this is NOT that
My 21 has never been updated do you suggest going to the dealer soon to update
I wld fer sure
YOU'RE A BEAST A-ROD 💪 NICE JOB SIR GOOD JOB ON THE VIDEO TOP NOTCH 👏🇺🇸🇺🇸
What years is this recall for ???? Thanks
As long as it doesn’t detune my power like they did to my 6.0.
How do i know if i need the the update? Will they send me a recall notice or or should i be asking my dealer. I have a 2022. Thanks.
my 2019 don't seam as fast as the 21 I have is there any thing they could do at the dealership for that Thanks
Probably have to bolt a few parts back on first.....lol
Gonna do the update, but was curious, will this reset all my forescan changes; bambi mode turn signal increase etc?
Read the comments
My 2020 f450 runs much better after doing this. Gear shifts are more what I want it to do and does not rev as high anymore. My fuel milegage even increased by about 1mpg due to the changed shifting pattern. Seems to be using low end torque more than the high rpm hp from before the update. The truck is totally different from before, but much better. Accelleration from a stop is awesome now.
We appreciate your response David
Hey ARod! I have. 21 f150 with the 3.0L ps. Do you know what the 23e01 recall is all about?
No I don't. U can type it into Google. I'm not at the dealer any more
Hey Rod, thank you very much for the explanation on the 22EO4, I’m in Anchorage, Alaska, and I have an appointment on the 24th Monday to get it taken care of, just had a curiosity roughly about how long did that take you to do the PCM and TCM software downloads, it look like it was fairly quick within about 20 minutes, but couldn’t tell by the video. Thank you you rock.
Yepp bout half hour
Hey !! Love watching your videos. Learned a LOT
Question. If I do this will it wipe out any forscan stuff I’ve done. ?
Thank you !
Hey thanks broski, it will only affect changes made to the pcm
Whats the recommendation for new trucks with different power configurations
Huh
That's one thing I despise about doing flash recalls, some take forever to do and warranty pays .2 to .6 for them. We had one a few years ago where the files were uncompressed and would take up to 3 hours to do it. Warranty paid I think 3.3 for it. Then they updated it and now only pay like .5.
sorry for the dumb question but will this restore all the mods to factory that i have changed using Forscan?
Just for the OCR function you would have changed in the PCM
They direct us to you!
I’ve had hesitant starts off the line and a few rough downshifts since I drove my 550 off the lot, I hope this helps even though I’m so used to it by now.
Arod what’s your take on swapping out my Orem trans fluid out for amsoil full Syn? Worth it or am I being a diva about it?
I wld welcome the fluis change & wld be excited for you to update zeee trans software
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank you sir. 🍻
How much do you normally charge for the update sir?
Under warranty
Ooooooo yeah 2020 boyzzzzz.
Does anyone know how long this is gonna take to get it reprogram.
In case my dealer says it takes 2 days. ?
Takes friggin 40-45 min
Thank you for the info
Update , called ford and they are coming to me for the update, nice
Local dealer doesn’t seem interested in the spring seat interface recall. Does your shop have the materials and experienced welder to take care of this?
Doing 1 now
Any regrets on the update? Been hesitant on the update because I used to have an EcoBoost and Ford updated my PCM 21B10 and my truck was never the same. They recalled it a few times after but never could fix it.
I have had ZERO complaints. Prople are saying trans shifts way better
I just performed this recall. After PCM and TCM were uodated Nox sensor module 11 needed ti be updated. I didnt click on anything else , it popped up right after TCM.
Went in to finally get my wiper recall done a week ago and they wouldn’t do this recall. They said some dealer bs about how it’s only for those having issues. Now I have to go back. Ugh
They hadn't a clue what they're talking about
Does this affect the regen ? You mentioned @ 375 miles +/-. My 2021 seems to regen at no set mileage schedule. Most of my "around town" trips are routinely average less than 10 miles, what has my curiosity is, I will check the def gauge, and it seems to stay steady for long periods, sometimes 1500 to 2000 or more miles, indicating that the truck does not regen. but if I drive down to San Diego from where I live in Utah, drive around maybe 1200 / 1400 miles, it will regen 3 or 4 times. Most recent was in October of 2022, when I went to San Diego, and experienced several regen cycles. Upon returning home, I "topped" the def, and it fluctuated between 6000 & 6500 miles of def, and did not drop until June 2023 on my next trip to San Diego, will this update address this "alleged" issue, or is what I am experiencing normal ?
I think you would be a candidate for some Forscan work. Powerstroketechtalkwarod@gmail.com see you there
Where are you located? I’d love to have you be my go-to mechanic/dealer for my truck. You definitely know what you’re doing!
DETROIT
I wish you were in Oklahoma. My ‘21 6.7, with only 38,000 miles, is sitting there with a hole in the side of the engine. I would trust you to take it down and get it back together correctly. They’re replacing the long block, injectors, main engine wiring harness and turbos. Been at the dealership since the last week of February and they are telling me they can’t even get a new turbo until the middle of April. If you could get the parts, I know you would get it back together correctly. I’m so nervous about of it getting put back together correctly.
Sorry pal, I don't do warranty work
I’ll remove my Banks programs and the unit beforehand will it still work after this update
yes sir
If I buy the license is this something I can just do instead of going to the dealer? My dealer will keep my truck for over a month if I take it in for this.
You could or just come see us
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodtook my truck to a buddy who works at ford. Dealer said they were 2 months out before seeing my truck. I’m having the same issues. 5-8 delay shifting while towing. (Now does it without towing) tcm showed no updates. Only the pcm.
I got this letter 2 days later check engine light and dpf light came on and message saying 50 miles until limited to 50 mph had recall done lights were off for 20 miles came back on my exhaust filter used to go from 0 to 5 or 10 percent shortly after hitting 0 it hasn't went from 0 in days before lights came on and hasn't moved off 0 in weeks including towing 15,000 lbs trailer
My friend said after the update his truck uses more DEF, regins more and uses more fuel when regining.
This isnt a 17-19 pal
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod his is a 19 and mine is a 19. I requested no update or computer flashed. It runs fine.
Exactly as i thought 17-19.....
I do enjoy your videos even though I don’t own a 6.7. I have a 6 liter and it runs great. It’s has a 4.30 gear and will pull 15000 lbs all day long.
Gonna be getting a 6.ohhh sooon harley too
Scheduled for Tuesday….👊🏻🇺🇸
will this wipe out my forscan settings?
It will for auto regen inhibit, bout it
For people that had a weight reduction to their alumaduty, will this mess up tuning?
...........umm
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Taaaaaavoooooh
You cannot do only the Tcm update while leavening the pcm alone?
Cuz they go hand & hand
After getting this done, I had to re-enable one of the settings for OCR using Forscan. Just heads up. Mine is a 21. I could see the option to toggle automatic regen, but I couldn't turn it off until I enabled it again.
Yepp have had to do many
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodjust so I’m clear, after this update, am I going to have to re-do my FORScan changes?
For the ones made ONLY to the PCM, thats it.
I noticed the same thing, just made a comment... assume you have your DPF% screen on too... I notice it doesn't call for a regen till 100% now.. And can you remind me where the ability to turn it on and off is found/labeled in forscan? I can see the toggle but can't use it. I was fixing a light issue (see comment above) when I got into forscan so I didn't mess with the auto regen stuff much. And like an idiot I didn't make notes when I switched it all a year or more ago. Thanks! Glad I'm not the only one seeing some changes to settings.
@@alaskaaccurate466 like ARod said, it's only the changes made to the PCM that you need to do again. Look for the auto regen setting in the PCM module.
wonder if I'll get flack for the Banks air cleaner and exhaust??
Absolutely not, both are carb compliant & have no bearing on said reflash
Mobile tech bricked my 2021 with this update...new pcm required. No water damage or voltage issues. Dealer said it has happened a couple times with this update. Be careful!
Bummer
Have my appointment first Friday in August. Lately it just feels like my 10spd in my 2022 F350 6.7 Tremor just doesnt shift as well as it used to. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
It will, report back
It sure has on my 2021 350. very pleased. I was having frequent enough "thunks" that my wife paid attn and I was losing faith that the transmission would last long... long trip coming up too... now it's smooth as butter. Have 1300 miles since reboot, and 700+ was towing, and love love love it.
I never update software on anything that works. I don’t see a need. Since I stopped updating windows it quit crashing. No more blue screens Or problems of any kind. It’s impossible for you as a tech to actually know what they really did. They could of installed some kind of government monitoring system
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Hmmm wonder if this will fix my dreaded P20EE DTC…. Dealership says it needed a new DPF.
Yea thats an entirely different thing. I wld however go beat it yp on the free way tho
I think ill keep my ecm/tcm tunes from Calibrated Power
Loved their tuning on my 16
These software updates, does Ford at some point not worry about the older trucks if even years down the road theres a recognized issue. Like on steel bodies...to reduce regens or update for more HP or a better exhaust brake strategy?
If it's an emission's compliance issue then yes
Got a 22 bought in Sept of 22, Ford website shows no recalls or open service bulletins. 🤷♂️
How long after the letters are released does one have to get the recall done?
Forever
didn't this extend a warranty for temp sensors or nox sensors
Read 22e04
3-400 miles between regens on new powerstrokes!?? Meanwhile my 4th gen ram goes 700-1000 miles between regens. My 2013 powerstroke was about 120 miles between regens before I dumped it... Why do Fords run dirtier than the Cummins?
NICELY FINISHED A ROD CHEVROLET IN CALLEY ❤😊
Is this the update that is causing the increase in DEF useage?
Increase, i dunno bout that
Don’t get it done. Had mine done 9/26 and hauled my camper 1,600 miles and now the transmission is blown and having to get replaced at the dealer.
How about a recall on 2019 super duty fuel pump? Asking for a friend.
No such recall for, that friend.....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thanks for your answer! I guess I'm going to have to get the CP4 mod done in a mechanic shop. Btw where's your shop located?
Detroit
after 22E04 recall was completed I can no longer uncheck Auto Regen
Yepp gotta go back in & turns it on
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Was able to turn it back on with forscan. Thank you.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Had the 22E04 update yesterday, and auto regen uncheck still works. I see others saying they have to re-enable it with forscan.
Yepp
I have a 22 and I haven’t got my letter what should I do
Come see me or send us your vin to powerstroketechtalkwarod@gmail.com
I just sent my vin
Will get back to you later when i work
Why can’t these just be updated via Wi-Fi instead of going to the dealer? Tesla can do it.
Ask Dearborn
Does this update apply to the 7.3 gas transmission also.
6.7 only
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have a 2022 7.3 gas and the transmission does some crazy stuff. I was at a red light last went to take off it acted like it was in neutral. After patting the gas a few times it finally slammed into gear. It jerks when starting it in park. It shifts crazy. Does it need to be reprogrammed?
Id do it for you
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I know you mainly work on diesels,but have you seen these symptoms before on the 2022 7.3 gas trucks before?
I have seen shifting issues that software took care of. Come see me
What’s goin hon
Jennifer
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod heeeeeey
Have a 2020 f350 and have rough shifting on steap inclines when 4 wheeling and pulling my boat up a steap ramp. Will this fix that or is this due to low fluid or something else? 83k had transmission service at 60k by ford. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks Arod and everyone else for the info!
I wld do it & reset KAM and adaptive learned values in the TCM as well.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank you so much for your continued content! I have learned so much from you!
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Like I said, no thanks. Truck regens every 500 miles, first superduty(have had 11) that doesn’t regen 150-350 miles. Truck runs good. Back in the early 2000 ford would screw us with mpg hits with flashes.
Guys are reporting almost 600 between regens now
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod lol..impossible. Computer won’t allow 500 miles between regen. It regens At minimum 496 miles if soot content doesn’t kick it sooner. FYI, I think ford f’d up on the emissions for these years and is now required to go back and recalibrate…kinda like what vw went through.
Oh it will now
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod really? I’ll start a thread at ford-truck…that would be absolutely sweet if it does…
A high level ranking Forscan senior is & has confirmed such numbers in his 20 F450
Don't Do any updates !!! My 2020 f250 6.7 lost 100 hp and 250 ft lbs tq. Because of Ford recall hidden with EPA Emissions reduction.
Yea crock of shit, try again
Kl
Why dose my f250 1999 die when I plug the OBD2 IN when connecting to
8 minutes of video and you hardly explained anything of what the updates are even doing
Guess u did t watch till the end....
The letter you got is all is have....if you want to know more....i welcomed you to ask our brothers and sisters in Dearborn
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod my main question was on a 22 550 does the tcm update address the acceleration being almost non existent from a roll in 3rd? And the aggressive downshifts, even letting off the brake to go from a light you get on the throttle and it shakes the whole truck and lunges forward. How are they ok with that
So thats a lot of concerns there pal, I will tell you people are commenting about their post repair shifts & they are good. Like i said in the video if yall want to know more youll have to call dearborn. Thats above my pay grade
Is this a real recall or just greater restriction on our diesels?
will this recall cause an idle up to happen more frequently?
Should this update be done if your truck doesn’t have certain stock exhaust parts?
Ummm