Even though I'm a European driving a Scania my self, I mostly hope that this whole showing off thing will make the American truck brands get a bit more off their asses and start making better trucks. Not just for my oversea colleagues, but for everyone. Not only is the safety thing very important, but so is the well being of all those men and women who more or less live their entire lives inside and with their trucks. And just to be clear, this is NOT a us vs you rant. But this whole series has made it abundantly clear, that most American truck brands really is 10-15 years behind on development and you guys deserve better. Have a nice day people and stay safe
We just like driving real trucks, not the front 2 meters of a tour bus. 🤷♂️ For a quarter of a million dollars, they should at least give you the entire bus!!! 🚌
@@straybullitt It really has nothing to do with looks, but with quality, safety and usability. So your argument falls a bit short. From a strickt aesthetic viewpoint I do get you, but what is that worth if the product falls short on the above?
@@HarrysDogmalaysia to be honest I think a big part of if was the target didn't have any highly radar reflective parts like metal. The systems are pretty specifically tuned to only brake for cars
The new Scania trucks know exactly what their stopping distance is, because they know their weight. Even including a trailer, the truck's emergency systems calculate the minimum stopping distance for the emergency brake. Therefore, it stops just in time before a real accident happens. It is standard on most European trucks, American truck manufacturers should do better. Safety is important for everyone.
@darkknight8139 I don't know where you got that from? Abs works on monitoring friction and slippage. And stops as quickly as possible, regardless of weight speed or distance to travel.
@OurnameisLegion66 the scania with a trailer capable of AEBS and stability control is almost a standard in Europe today. AEBS system far superior to ABS as it will calculate load and weight distribution through the air bags, when emergency braking is activated along with stability control. This is superior in everway to ABS The trailer will brake on the according side if it senses a rollover through weight transfer if the airbags this is part of stability control and AEBS is what stops you. These systems together make a much safer stopping truck in any conditions and any load with any weight distribution, its all all calculated like auto land for pilots in massive passanger jets. It takes away a lot of human error and saves lives that's all that we care about.
@@deeeeeeeench1209 u r right, with like 30tn, u distribute better the braking thru all axles, in this video you only have 2 axles and 80% of the weight is transferred to the front axle without double wheels.
Greetings from Italy ,I too have been driving Scania in Italy for 20 years and seeing how you don't know these trucks makes me smile a bit. Unfortunately, you are demonstrating how far behind the US is in terms of commercial vehicles.
@@leifgunnartoth8070 usa cars are trash in general, i cant believe when i heard a quality used usa car sold there can be up to 4k thats road legal, here in UK its more like 500
@@lokid965 Yes.... the USA is far behind in trucks.... Ever wondered why in America there trucks just roll over so easy ..... those 2 axles trailers and their length,no stability at all .....no ABS
I can confirm it detects cyclists reliably, probably pedestrians. Warnings on the dash will wake you up if it thinks you didn't see a change of pace of the vehicules in front of you. For long distance drivers, there is a function that indicates how much attention you have on the road.
My Mercedebenz Vito van had a one I don't know how but it somehow detected if I was extra sleepy in the mornings and gave me a coffee cup sign on the dash.
@@petrirantavalli859 It detects when you are not keeping your direction straight ahead and when you swerve left and right inside the line too many times, like a drunk person.
@@Joel.V. i belive it senses your steering input and how centered you are between the lines. On both volvo and mercedes trucks i have tested it and you can trigger it by "drifting" in the lane, left and right and lots of unnecessary steering input aka how you would drive when tired/not focused (only reacting when hitting the lines and not actively staying in the center
There is a video kicking about (It's easy to find) from a few years back of a Volvo fully loaded where a child runs out from behind a bus, it's real heart in the mouth, and it just stops dead. European truck manufacturers only deploy safety systems after rigorous testing and they know it works and works well. American truck manufacturers maybe not so much.
@@AlexKall yes but the sistem helps you because he detects and and work in an instant ,i drive volvos ,scania ,renault and all of then who have all kinds of sistems react way before you can think of
Wow, what an impressive test! I am absolutely speechless at how precise the new Scania braking system works. This is truly next-level technology, and that millimeter-accurate stop at the end - simply incredible. Hats off for this exciting content!
The gap after stopping was actually larger than that. The obstruction detector is much lower than the tube things on top. suspect it was reacting more to the vertical face of the inflatable sofa underneath. it just puts the inflatable tubes closer to the front.
@@Razzman-bv5qccan you explain if the automatic breaking system adjusts the required breaking power to the remaining distance and speed to break as slow as possible while still stopping in time?
@@mkusmic It's a mixture of sensors, radar/lidar working together. The trucks are well aware of their surroundings. In addition they know truck weight, speed and your inputs as a driver. Those inputs put together enables the truck to react in due time to prevent accidents. Or at least that is at least a rough explanation of it. I have yet to see how good the system works, when road conditions is icy/very slippery or just too unpredictable. Also I dont know at what distances these systems work, but they do seem to be able to work reliable at most speeds and distances. This is a link to a dashcam video from Norway, where a Volvo truck is forced into emergency braking. It shows just how good the system is. -> ua-cam.com/video/TtN2STogGXI/v-deo.html
Like a lot of viewers, I stared watching Bruce wilson through "will it start" videos that I enjoyed. By passion and being crazy enough, he jumped on Scania and got international viewers. It may annoy some but it brought content that works. I see it as a big opportunity for the industry in the US to pay attention to what their safety and quality standards should be. They are plenty capable, they just need a big foot up their ass... Every one wins here!
Hahaha, Americans are too arrogant, the US is the best at everything, the greatest country, democracy, economy, blablabla... Don't expect Americans to think that they can learn from others. Plus... Americans and safety standards? "Scafoldings are for pussies", "using that safe tool makes you gay"... No Americans are proud to work in unsafe conditions, and to destroy their health for their boss for a shitty pay, because they are not commies. Funny enough, that's exactly the working conditions of communist countries.
@@r11tc They know what's being done elsewhere, it's just that there is no american competition, they are all lazy and there are not enough safety equipment regulations. I am against to many gadgets in my vehicles, but there is a minimum required.
Everyone COULD win but Trump will just put up trade barriers (were USA not going to war for free trade and democracy not that long ago?) and tolls and allow US truck manufacturers to keep under performing, using tech from 70-80´s and result will be same number of death in traffic, a lot worse working conditions for the truckers than needed and thus it will be the same "Boeing doors falling off" situation. But they probably will keep delivering good quarterly earnings until the wheels fall off. As with so many things wrong in USA it basically are down to the US lobby laws that allow anyone with money, from Israel to fossil fuel companies, to buy the two parties opinions long before any voters turn up at the boot. Then you end up with an industry that basically dictates their own rules instead of politicians developing the society by demanding more and better solutions technologically. The Euro trucks pollute less, drive longer per weight/distance/fuel unit but pollution prevention solutions still seems like one of the reasons/technical tradebarriers made to prevent better products/solutions coming into USA.
With all of the hassle of getting Scania trucks into the states, American truck companies probably couldn't care less. There unfortunately won't be a rush to import scania's for a while
no because with lobbying, the uS government will just tarrif the F out of scania, all american parents should be raging, as the safety of their children comes a long way down to the profitability of the dinosaur uS lorry manufacturers
I am Swedish and worked for Volvo trucks in the 80s, already these trucks seems to be ahead of US trucks of today.. but, the US trucks just looks soooo damn good, love this old style designs. Have 2 Harleys from the 90s just because of the looks and the feeling😊
Bruce, my advice is to upgrade the production value a bit for tests like this. Like real time speed gauge and and distance. It's fine to make vlog style videos with a cell phone when you talk about stuff, but for a million subs I am sure you can have/borrow a laser speed gun, maybe even a low tech high speed cam. Maybe have a split screen for the cameras that film dash, outside mounted cam and one stationary cam on the roadside.
When you said your brother was going to help with the testing,for a milli second I thought he was going to sit on the inflatable sofa. 😂 Its sad that that a 97 Scania still outclasses a more modern American truck, just goes to show what happens when you have no competition. 😎
My little super compact Peugeot E208 has the same system and it actually works. It saved me from running into a traffic jam in bad weather and also braked for a cyclist running a red light.
@@alflife2007 Most American brands are owned by European companies: - International, owned by Traton, the VW Group who also owns Scania and MAN. - Volvo owns Volvo trucks Europe, Volvo trucks USA, Renault trucks, Mack - Freightliner iis owned by Daimler truck, which is basically the Mercedes Group - Western Star Trucks is owned by Daimler - Sterling is owned by Daimler - Detroit Diesel is owned by Daimler as well - PACCAR owns DAF, Kenworth and Peterbilt, but the PACCAR engines are mostly from DAF now. But American brands keep some independence, and don't seem to want modern technologies.
An episode on costing would be interesting. I recall another trucker asking how much the new Scanua is, and realing at the price. Here in Australia Scania's are expensive, yet, they make up a third of trucks on the road. When you crunch the numbers they are more economical per mile. An episode that compares Scania to Kenworth, Peterbilt and Mack. Cost should be done over 10 year period. Considering that Scania is so reliable, they could be leased over a longer period. Other cost factors such as fuel consumption, services and engine rebuilds should be looked at.
Scania..... the best tractor ever Here in Kenya, companies that own Scanias get the most jobs...coz of their safety I drive a R440 mid lift 2019,transporting LPGas
The auto braking is more reactive the faster you go. Had it on a VW Passatt company car, our 2019 Discovery (LR5) on my E53 Mercedes and the other half's Kia Niro. Bloody epic.
Even more reactive in a truck due to stopping distances! This is part of why truck drivers honk at people for cutting in so close in front of them, it can very easily trigger emergency braking if the cutting in vehicle brakes even slightly.
@ The system used by Scania, from my understanding, reacts to the overall weight of the truck, so if you are hauling 44t the system calculates stopping distance for your speed and weight then brakes earlier.
Hi bruce I own a scania 770s v8 it s a year old and this is why I have one they are fantastic trucks in many many ways I just couldn't belive that freightliner from 2019 it was sliding all over the place . The scania 770s is as is other scania trucks are very safe very nice to drive I own three a 770s v8 a r590 and a 650s v8 . Even the old scania beat the pants of your American truck . You American boys need these new scania trucks like yesterday
He intentionally ordered it without those mirrors, presumably because the didn't like the look of them. But it makes sense too, because american trucks don't have them and he wants it to appeal to them.
There's already been someone trying, and failing big by using the "we 'muericans prefere real trucks..." argument, not understanding that as European truck, specially specked for the Nordics (same axle config as what Bruce has) is larger and n sll ways, exept from bumper to rear wheel, and have less drag from the trailer because of how close it is to the cabin.
@wayniexagt I'm a Hungarian woman. (I don't know how I got here.😅) Anyway, I noticed that American manufacturers pay attention to the safety of those sitting inside first, while here in Europe we also put emphasis on the safety of people and objects outside. After all, in a truck accident, it's safer to sit inside than to stand outside...
@invisiblelathatatlan i would not want to be in an American truck in the event of a crash they are pop rivetted together and the main cab falls apart no good when you are inside plus their braking systems are very substandard to European truck ... many videos prove this ... this being one of them
The new Scania is not wasting distance on auto-brake, but that also means it maintains optimal traction and keeps the rig controllable if you chose to steer clear of the obstacle - and as a bonus, intended or not, whoever is behind you gets some extra distance to brake instead of ending up under your trailer's bumper. I love technology when it works. 😊
Thats just nuts!! Obviously the outcome fully loaded would be different but it does show us mere mortals where the money goes in R & D by these companies, amazing that a truck shaped like a brick performs that well , thanks bruce & the team for entertaining us while educating us too !! Haha a bit hello from great britain
Jeżdżę taką w Polsce tylko że już z nową deską rozdzielczą z tabletami i ten system już parę razy mi uratował tyłek😅 pozdrawiam fajny kanał daje suba💪💪
That Freightliner is just all around sad. How is it that slow when it's not loaded down at all? Way back when I first started I had some yard work at the end of my shift, including bobtailing over a couple of Volvos over to a fuel station to fuel up. These were not big tractors, single rear axle, 380 hp, tiny things from 2001-2003. They accelerated as fast as my car without a trailer weighing them down.
@@railvlogger1439 that's not a loud on Europe only if it is convoy exceptioneel. And the trailers is also a big difference than on Australië. Big brake disk, ebs, Axel lifters, singel big tire's
I’m a coach driver in the uk and drive Iriza Spanish built coaches on Scania and MAN platforms and they can recognise pedestrians and vehicles with anti collision brakes. To be honest most coaches have this technology as standard in the uk now.
Here's a video of a European Volvo truck emergency braking with a trailer to avoid hitting a kid running out behind a bus. Imagine if that was an American truck... they'd probably not even see the kid over the hood 🤷 ua-cam.com/video/TtN2STogGXI/v-deo.htmlsi=tWL13gzOq5Cy5rW0
Actually,I think It was automatic breaking. I might be wrong ,but I read somewhere ,on some forum ,the driver of that truck wrote himself that it was automatic braking. I might be wrong so don't quote me on that.
Here in Europe I think it is still Volvo trucks that are so famous for their emergency braking. Probably because there have been rather impressive youtube videos where school kids are not turned into red paste. I think all new euro trucks are similar in breaking performance because this tech is mandatory now.
I don't like Volvo so much. In the Volvo's you are sitting so high up in the seat, while in Scania you can just let the air out from the chair. I prefer sitting in a Scania then in a Volvo that's for sure but I drive both.
That demonstration by a none company driver showing just how much safer these European Trucks are compared to American Trucks should be an eye opener!!! Just imagine how many accidents could be avoided!!!
People seem to not know or forget that trucks aren't limited to 50 mph in all of the US, like they seem to be in most of Europe. Trucks commonly go 70 mph in the US. I'm willing to bet the speed difference is a bigger factor than anything. European trucks aren't miracles
I am 100% confident that the average European truck, weather it's a loggingtruck, a dumptruck or a tractor-trailer have much better brakes than the equivalent american truck has, why? Because in sweden for example we have yearly inspections of all heavy trucks and trailers were they brake-test each axle separate on rollers in the floor, they simulates the load and if there's any deviating results on any axle we simply don't pass and has one month to come back with fixed brakes. We also have had abs brakes both on trucks and trailers for at least 20 years.
Bruce, you are doing good job for US market, more you talk about differences, more US companies will try harder to compete (hope so). Same like with cars, few years back US cars was pretty bad, and now they are comparable, sometimes better than the rest of the world.
Bruce, I have watched your channels since the very beginning. I saw the thumbnail, and went, “O…S*it! This dumbass is about to destroy something!” (Honestly, you have that history.) Then I saw inflatables. Well done.
Will say typically these tests are done with soft targets resembling actual vehicles, especially for systems that use cameras. If you can borrow one to test with the Freightliner I would be curious to see if it does the same thing or behaves differently. Props to Scania for going deep into object detection.
European Truck, car, and bus manufacturers are required by LAW to pulse the hazard lights (as well as turn them on after an emergency braking scenario such as what we saw in this video).. makes me wish America would follow suit because i have seen some scares because of people not paying attention. it is crazy to see how quickly something THIS heavy stop that quickly.. truly mindblowing
@@Lorre982 Correct. Orange/Amber for warning/direction and red lights only for brake and awareness (in lack of another word). After coming to a full stop in this scenario, the brake has to be engaged to disable the emergency flashing off the lights.
Works on big animals too, Line assists will help also. If you’re coming to quickly in a corner as well it quickly reduces your to safe speed. It feels if the weight shifts to much in a long turn and a warning is given maybe even slow you down. Many things that make life safer for drivers and others including animals. It safer for the cargo as well, more get delivered and more can go home. Less downtime, less loss.
European trucks are so much saver I guess 😉 I drive a Volvo FH4 it also brakes automatically. It's a great invention it makes our job a bit saver but it's a pain in the face if a car passes you and goes back in your lane to short before your bumper.. When you have a load of 20.000 kilo then you feel that in the neck.. Great content 👌 Keep on trucking!
Perhaps authorities should be relaying that information to car drivers. I didn't know about your auto brakes activating like that, and in future will try to not pull back in until I am well ahead of the truck.
As much as I love American trucks, especially the long hood ones, it is kind of scary to see how much better a 25 year old European truck stops than a modern American truck.
I've spent a lot of time in a lot of different trucks over my time here in Australia, many of them Scanias, many of them American. The retarders are second to none and they have the safest auto braking system out there. I was in a 2016 R560 towing an A Double (30m or about 100 ft long 2 trailer road train weighing 80ish tonnes) going over the West Gate bridge in Melbourne. The downhill section of this bridge is very steep and long. I usually like to keep a minimum braking distance of a full truck length when in town doing 60km/h (35 mph if you prefer your measurements in bananas). This bridge had 3 lanes open at the time and I always travel in the middle one which is the widest and safest. 4 cars changed lanes in front of me all at the same time shortening my braking distance up to about 3m (10 feet) and the front one for whatever reason decided they needed to brake fairly hard. I had the retarder set to hold me at my legal speed and the auto brake system put the brakes on quicker than my foot could get to the pedal. I believe this saved the people in that last car from having a very bad day, if not their last. Before this I'd had a Volvo tried to kill me and the guy behind me when its auto brake system decided I was going to hit the truck I was overtaking and locked everything up. I was dead against these systems before this day but now I firmly believe that Scania should do what Volvo did in the 70's with their retractable seat belts and make their automatic braking system open source for all the other manufacturers to use.
First of all, Scania and Volvo have a lot of partnerships so they actually co develop things. Seconds of all, most probably mobileye is the supplier of the AEB - someone please correct me if i am wrong. Third of all, your Volvo, remember that it was an older tech compared to this It always evolve, and also, nothing is fool proof. First Volvo used kid of a lidar thing, then they combined it with radar and camera. Then they removed the lidar thing and only went with radar and camera. Or a racam as i have in my Volvo. Volvos auto brake system was introduced around 20 years ago!
@@Xanthopteryx The issue I mentioned in the Volvo is and has been in their manual since 2014. The Scania I was in was only 2 years younger than the 2014 FH700 that caused the issue. I will be in a 2023 Volvo in the next few days, we have a lot of them where I am currently working and I will verify this for you. Not sure who makes it but it is way inferior to the 2016 Scania version I mentioned above. If you are on a bend the Volvo version will pick up telephone poles and cars in driveways waiting to pull out onto the street. The Scania ones don't do this.
Are you ready to be out through the windscreen of that 770? 🤣 even the old 4 series will stop if the brakes are good and mantained, very clean that 4 series.
I have watched your Scania videos like multiple times, really enjoying what you doing with it wish you could put more videos sooner definitely enjoy the heck out of your content lately
I understand why the US doesn't allow European trucks, because then they see what kind of junk they build themselves. It also protects their market because the factories can close.
European trucks aren't banned, they simply don't homologate them because of the importation taxes. Freightliner is owned by Daimler Trucks, same with Traton who owns Scania and Navistar/International, so if they want US trucks companies can have access at the same technologies.
I love the way American trucks look and how the engines sound (talking about Kenworth and Peterbilt), and I miss seeing the old cabovers, but they are falling behind in tech and innovation…. They need to step up the game. Love this Scania.
I find this hilarious watching from the UK that this is new tech to the Americans, its standard on nearly everything here now and has been around for maybe 10 years...
Yes Brilliant ..and as another guy from < England > told me several years ago quote : they < the americans > don't know S..t when we were discussing this and other subjects about the uninformed american ...
You imagine how much shorter you brake distance would have been with a trailer on. I have driven 2015/2016/17 Scania's with all the safety gear on it can bloody annoying but if it's on and working it saves lives. There is a Volvo Truck video showing off adaptive braking and lane control, worth a watch.
I would like to see break test with fully loaded trailer with 44 tons. It would be interesting to see europien an US fully loaded truck brake side by side, I know you don't have europien trailer but it would be still cool to see that. Also it would be interesting to see acselaration difference of fully loaded trucks, on flat surface and up the steep hill. It would be cool to see a drag race like that between American and European trucks.
@matiasmaensivu7723 it is pretty much expected that European truck will win, but there are no videos comparing two new trucks from USA and Europe on UA-cam. It would be nice to see video showing difference between loaded American and European trucks in breaking and acselarating. There are plenty of videos comparing Europien trucks.
Worth also noting that when you done the auto break on the new gen you also had the rear axle up so if it was down you’d stop even faster like the old gen scania did, would also love to see a sudden break test so something like pushing the inflatables out in front as it drives along to test how reactive it is when something sudden pops infront like a person running in front for example
The faster you go, the sooner it reacts. Volvo have a good demo video of the system. I've had it activate on me when I was driving a MAN. I was approaching a car turning left ( in the UK ) and being overtaken by another truck. I timed my speed to pull out from behind the car and tuck in behind the truck overtaking me. The automatic braking system didn't like what I was trying to do and just applied the brakes. I never touched them. It was all done by the truck. I wasn't at risk of collision , but the truck didn't like my closing speed on the one turning left .
You can get an self adjusting airfoil which lifts up to increase resistance and R and S series, but its only available as an option on limited specifications
Braking system in both Scania and the new Volvo's is impressive, way ahead of the American models. I did notice there is a difference in the braking performance with the braking systems in the trailers, especially loaded. I had trailers made that had the same disc brake system to the European trucks, which resulted in having a similar braking distance as the Prime mover, compared to trailers that had drum brakes. If I do buy another rig to operate on the East Coast of Australia, I would go to Scania. My favorite thing with the Scania is the gear shift options.
The truck measures the soeed of the truck, the weight of the truck (including cargo) and the distance to the "target" and then tries to break down in a as safe/smooth as possible way (for both parts), thst eay the truck won't uncontrollably throw you against the front screen. This depending on distance.
It's not actually that close acording to the truck, if you look right above where the front license plate would be you see a black square, that's the radar sensor and the distance from that to whatever obstacle is what the truck thinks the distance is
Use the adaptive cruise control on the dodge next time to test the emergency braking. That or check the settings to see if you have emergency braking set to minimum or turned off
Your 144 Scania has ABS. (I drove similar truck 11 years). But does that one have drum or disk brakes? Looking at stopping distance, I'd say you have disk.
@@Saunis in the EU ESC and ABS are also mandatory for the trailers so there is basically no risk in just slamming it. If you do the same with a no ESC/ABS truck and trailer, praying is the only remaining option.
Try the hellcat on adaptive cruise at 30 mph and side if the auto braking engages. Not many NA cars have the auto braking/auto steering avoidance when not on adaptive cruise.
You should show the ones in charge of trucks safety and approval of trucks a video with the Freightliner and Scania R770 alone, and ask if that is what American trucks are capable of, compared to European. It might be a way to make them consider to legalize Scania for the American market
The scania auto braking is good to have, but occasionally it picks up a false positive, on narrow roads with sharp bends it can pick up parked cars as a threat and brake by itself, not a bad thing to be over cautious, they also have TC traction control and stability control ( vertical yaw sensor) all these systems can be deactivated, auto brakes have their own button, TC press once activates off road mode ( no TC but Stability control still activated) press and hold the TC button, white warning on dash for off road mode comes on, continue to hold and stability control turns off ( yellow warning on dash ) continue to hold ( with handbrake on ) and the rolling road function is activated, you’ll need that mode for power testing or roller brake tests 👍
@@DooMMasteR most likely yeah, tbh I don’t like the stability control because it’s very abrupt when it comes on, usually on round abouts with the changes of camber it’s activated and brakes very suddenly, cars that are too close behind would have no chance to stop in time. I was also told the active braking uses all the available space hence in the video it’s so close to the “target” Without touching it
@bazil-ej2ep they pick stuff up they all do that, the odd lamp post usually, never had one do the emergency stop on a bend though, trucks smart enough to know it's turning and at speed so if it does apply them it won't be full on like a staightline stop it will be enough to keep you from jacking or rolling the AEBS will work with stability control to make that the least possible outcome.
You've gotta ask why the USA has been so very complacent about its truck manufacturing whilst the rest of the developed world has totally surpassed them technically by an enormous margin.
Its because Americans are constantly fed the lie by corporations and government that they're the greatest and are getting a good deal (lmao). They take the bait and so get complacent.
The scania auto brake is not bulletproof... i still experience during rain/fog when there is a large sign above the road or a low bridge that the truck can clear that its still slamming on the brakes.. but if you step on the gas after the warning you can override auto brake in those cases but dispite that its still a good system
A testament to Scania's engineers, no wonder shes "King Of The Road" I just cant believe how far the US truck technology is behide the European trucks, just imagine how many lifes having the Scania over there could save, surely that alone should wake your government up, or who ever it is that dont allow them over there, unless there 25yrs old. Madness!
I still can't get over the build quality. That new Peterbuilt looked like something you buy at an equipment auction with that Maaco special slap-n-dash paint job If they can't even figure out how to paint a truck, how are they going to figure out electronics or radar? You said yourself, a brand new Peterbuilt at a truck show is a joke because they just don't care when they assemble them new.
The first Scanias started getting ABS in 1991. So Surely your 1997 has ABS. EU legislation requires heavy commercial vehicles over 3500kg gross weight to stop entirely within 10meter at 30km/h no matter the load. And the sliding or skidding. So that's why your Scania just goes straight when braking, it is build and designed for it. But watch it with automatic brakes and cruise control activated. It will start braking when a vehicle in front of you turns to the right. And don't rely on the automatic brakes in snow and heavy rain, the distance radar will turn off automatically!!
Indeed. We also have this technology in North America, but a lot of companies and drivers don't want it but these European guys simply can't understand what it is to have that freedom when it comes to spec'ing your truck. ❤
Its about safety not freedom,so you like to be free and have shitty brakes and put other life's in danger...I forgot America doesn't give a shit about human life...
@@void308 Your freedom has the consequence of much more dangerous traffic in the US and more deadly accidents than in Europe. Such safety systems should be mandatory as they don't impact the driver but can save lifes.
Had a 25 metric ton truck, decided to test brake it... I work in research for Scania in sweden btw... Like the feeling of being inside and the whole front is dipping cause the thing is trying to stop, its sick. And yet you dont feel like you are being thrown into the windshield. Those brakes just work.
There are several videos of us semi trucks advanced braking systems locking up when semi truck goes into little curve causing the truck to jack knife at highway speed! Other thing is if you’re pulling a older semi trailer with an ABS system tractor it can get live very easily and what conditions. European semi trucks are way beyond ours for safety when it comes to breaking they should regulate that part in the US to change to save lives
@@marcmo7138 how does it work? I have never seen a connector for the electronic brake controller on any of the trailers, only the old ebrake stuff... or are they also ISO 12098 (trailer lights) and ISO 7638-1 (EBS/ABS) like over here...
I'm "old school" but the more I watch your Scania truck videos the more I realize Scania has a place on the American Truck Scene. But I also realize building a plant here in the US and the networking of sales and service would be a lot of $$$$$. Maybe hooking up with Allison Transmission (Indianapolis) might be a good fit threw Allison's distributor system. So, what's in it for Allison? Possible exclusive rights to sell automatics to Scania.
Even though I'm a European driving a Scania my self, I mostly hope that this whole showing off thing will make the American truck brands get a bit more off their asses and start making better trucks. Not just for my oversea colleagues, but for everyone. Not only is the safety thing very important, but so is the well being of all those men and women who more or less live their entire lives inside and with their trucks. And just to be clear, this is NOT a us vs you rant. But this whole series has made it abundantly clear, that most American truck brands really is 10-15 years behind on development and you guys deserve better. Have a nice day people and stay safe
10-15? You are being generous here. More like twice that...
We just like driving real trucks, not the front 2 meters of a tour bus. 🤷♂️
For a quarter of a million dollars, they should at least give you the entire bus!!! 🚌
@@straybullittScania are the Rolls Royce of trucks, Don’t get more real than that 😂
@@straybullitt Dude, even your US buses look like they still coming straight from the 80s...
@@straybullitt It really has nothing to do with looks, but with quality, safety and usability. So your argument falls a bit short. From a strickt aesthetic viewpoint I do get you, but what is that worth if the product falls short on the above?
"my Hellcat has it! Don't ask me how i know"
Well it won't be from reading the manual! Sorry Bruce, I couldn't resist 🤣🤣🤣
It's funny cause it's true ;)
and it does not even work
this is a prove that reading the manual can save lifes 🤣
Instructions or destructions lol😂
@@HarrysDogmalaysia to be honest I think a big part of if was the target didn't have any highly radar reflective parts like metal. The systems are pretty specifically tuned to only brake for cars
The new Scania trucks know exactly what their stopping distance is, because they know their weight. Even including a trailer, the truck's emergency systems calculate the minimum stopping distance for the emergency brake. Therefore, it stops just in time before a real accident happens. It is standard on most European trucks, American truck manufacturers should do better. Safety is important for everyone.
When you watch statistick how many dies in car accidents in USA, its like Vietnam war every year.
@@darkknight8139 I'd say they stop better with a trailer and some weight.
@darkknight8139
I don't know where you got that from? Abs works on monitoring friction and slippage. And stops as quickly as possible, regardless of weight speed or distance to travel.
@OurnameisLegion66 the scania with a trailer capable of AEBS and stability control is almost a standard in Europe today. AEBS system far superior to ABS as it will calculate load and weight distribution through the air bags, when emergency braking is activated along with stability control. This is superior in everway to ABS The trailer will brake on the according side if it senses a rollover through weight transfer if the airbags this is part of stability control and AEBS is what stops you. These systems together make a much safer stopping truck in any conditions and any load with any weight distribution, its all all calculated like auto land for pilots in massive passanger jets. It takes away a lot of human error and saves lives that's all that we care about.
@@deeeeeeeench1209 u r right, with like 30tn, u distribute better the braking thru all axles, in this video you only have 2 axles and 80% of the weight is transferred to the front axle without double wheels.
Greetings from Italy ,I too have been driving Scania in Italy for 20 years and seeing how you don't know these trucks makes me smile a bit. Unfortunately, you are demonstrating how far behind the US is in terms of commercial vehicles.
In terms of everything. It brakes better than normal 4-wheel cars 🤣
@@leifgunnartoth8070 usa cars are trash in general, i cant believe when i heard a quality used usa car sold there can be up to 4k thats road legal, here in UK its more like 500
He actually learned a lot about scania's in general give him some respect
Have you seen the Volvo VNL trucks US have, it’s like a driving modern day apartment with all kind of tech.
@@lokid965 Yes.... the USA is far behind in trucks....
Ever wondered why in America there trucks just roll over so easy
..... those 2 axles trailers and their length,no stability at all
.....no ABS
I can confirm it detects cyclists reliably, probably pedestrians.
Warnings on the dash will wake you up if it thinks you didn't see a change of pace of the vehicules in front of you.
For long distance drivers, there is a function that indicates how much attention you have on the road.
My Mercedebenz Vito van had a one I don't know how but it somehow detected if I was extra sleepy in the mornings and gave me a coffee cup sign on the dash.
@@petrirantavalli859 possible the system makes contact with your haertbeat true the steeringwheel, if your sleepe your hands get lose on the wheel
@@petrirantavalli859 It detects when you are not keeping your direction straight ahead and when you swerve left and right inside the line too many times, like a drunk person.
@@petrirantavalli859 Yep, Volvo has had it for ages too. It watches your eyes to see if you're too tired.
@@Joel.V. i belive it senses your steering input and how centered you are between the lines. On both volvo and mercedes trucks i have tested it and you can trigger it by "drifting" in the lane, left and right and lots of unnecessary steering input aka how you would drive when tired/not focused (only reacting when hitting the lines and not actively staying in the center
There is a video kicking about (It's easy to find) from a few years back of a Volvo fully loaded where a child runs out from behind a bus, it's real heart in the mouth, and it just stops dead. European truck manufacturers only deploy safety systems after rigorous testing and they know it works and works well. American truck manufacturers maybe not so much.
If you're thinking of the one in Norway it was the driver braking and not automatic braking, but damn good brakes!
@@AlexKall I watched it a few times and still couldn't believe how fast that thing stopped.
ua-cam.com/video/1QBsJG76gy0/v-deo.html
@@markmundy3435Yes, it's impressive!
@@AlexKall yes but the sistem helps you because he detects and and work in an instant ,i drive volvos ,scania ,renault and all of then who have all kinds of sistems react way before you can think of
Wow, what an impressive test! I am absolutely speechless at how precise the new Scania braking system works. This is truly next-level technology, and that millimeter-accurate stop at the end - simply incredible. Hats off for this exciting content!
Next-level for you maybe, over here it's normal..... sorry...
Old tech in Europe now am afraid! Iv had it in my trucks for the last 7/8 years at least
The gap after stopping was actually larger than that. The obstruction detector is much lower than the tube things on top. suspect it was reacting more to the vertical face of the inflatable sofa underneath. it just puts the inflatable tubes closer to the front.
@@Razzman-bv5qccan you explain if the automatic breaking system adjusts the required breaking power to the remaining distance and speed to break as slow as possible while still stopping in time?
@@mkusmic It's a mixture of sensors, radar/lidar working together. The trucks are well aware of their surroundings. In addition they know truck weight, speed and your inputs as a driver. Those inputs put together enables the truck to react in due time to prevent accidents. Or at least that is at least a rough explanation of it. I have yet to see how good the system works, when road conditions is icy/very slippery or just too unpredictable. Also I dont know at what distances these systems work, but they do seem to be able to work reliable at most speeds and distances. This is a link to a dashcam video from Norway, where a Volvo truck is forced into emergency braking. It shows just how good the system is. -> ua-cam.com/video/TtN2STogGXI/v-deo.html
the old scania sound so nice when accelerating
Yes she have rumble😉
straightpiped and v8
Yeah old mechanical pump injectiom sound mean
it sounds so much better than that clapping crap we usually see on tiktok and youtube lol
@@TunneIVision Agreed, after all the shit bruce is getting, he still has one of the best sounding scanias on youtube
Like a lot of viewers, I stared watching Bruce wilson through "will it start" videos that I enjoyed.
By passion and being crazy enough, he jumped on Scania and got international viewers.
It may annoy some but it brought content that works.
I see it as a big opportunity for the industry in the US to pay attention to what their safety and quality standards should be.
They are plenty capable, they just need a big foot up their ass...
Every one wins here!
Yeah they should buy SCANIA and compare how their trucks compare during development
Yeah I only watched his trying to get the Scandia in. And now that he has a brand new one in the US. I am subscribed
Hahaha, Americans are too arrogant, the US is the best at everything, the greatest country, democracy, economy, blablabla...
Don't expect Americans to think that they can learn from others.
Plus... Americans and safety standards? "Scafoldings are for pussies", "using that safe tool makes you gay"... No Americans are proud to work in unsafe conditions, and to destroy their health for their boss for a shitty pay, because they are not commies. Funny enough, that's exactly the working conditions of communist countries.
@@r11tc They know what's being done elsewhere, it's just that there is no american competition, they are all lazy and there are not enough safety equipment regulations.
I am against to many gadgets in my vehicles, but there is a minimum required.
Everyone COULD win but Trump will just put up trade barriers (were USA not going to war for free trade and democracy not that long ago?) and tolls and allow US truck manufacturers to keep under performing, using tech from 70-80´s and result will be same number of death in traffic, a lot worse working conditions for the truckers than needed and thus it will be the same "Boeing doors falling off" situation. But they probably will keep delivering good quarterly earnings until the wheels fall off.
As with so many things wrong in USA it basically are down to the US lobby laws that allow anyone with money, from Israel to fossil fuel companies, to buy the two parties opinions long before any voters turn up at the boot. Then you end up with an industry that basically dictates their own rules instead of politicians developing the society by demanding more and better solutions technologically.
The Euro trucks pollute less, drive longer per weight/distance/fuel unit but pollution prevention solutions still seems like one of the reasons/technical tradebarriers made to prevent better products/solutions coming into USA.
i wonder if the American truck manufacturers are shitting themself now with all this Scania content
Don't think so. They probaly have a "Bruce Wilson"/"Scania"/"European" filter innstalled.
@@Nettoppnaa untill DOT watches this and a large amount of US truck suddenly dont pass DOT anymore as they take too long to slow down...
With all of the hassle of getting Scania trucks into the states, American truck companies probably couldn't care less. There unfortunately won't be a rush to import scania's for a while
they are just happy someone is throwing around with tarifs.
no because with lobbying, the uS government will just tarrif the F out of scania, all american parents should be raging, as the safety of their children comes a long way down to the profitability of the dinosaur uS lorry manufacturers
Saw a lot of comments about the inspection about braking balance, I believe that is a good example in this video with that Cascadia.
I am Swedish and worked for Volvo trucks in the 80s, already these trucks seems to be ahead of US trucks of today.. but, the US trucks just looks soooo damn good, love this old style designs. Have 2 Harleys from the 90s just because of the looks and the feeling😊
You got it man... Give me a classic XL any day!
Bruce, my advice is to upgrade the production value a bit for tests like this. Like real time speed gauge and and distance. It's fine to make vlog style videos with a cell phone when you talk about stuff, but for a million subs I am sure you can have/borrow a laser speed gun, maybe even a low tech high speed cam. Maybe have a split screen for the cameras that film dash, outside mounted cam and one stationary cam on the roadside.
Good Call!!
100%
Just needs a GPS speed logger to confirm speed onscreen. It would do ALOT on stuff like this. Or just a small camera pointed at the speedo.
There are apps that record and show the speed
blablablabla!!!! its a very well made truck! he doesnt need all those gadgets to prove that its better than american trucks thats real life no BIAS.
When you said your brother was going to help with the testing,for a milli second I thought he was going to sit on the inflatable sofa. 😂 Its sad that that a 97 Scania still outclasses a more modern American truck, just goes to show what happens when you have no competition. 😎
Once again shows that these EU trucks are so far ahead of what the USA makes.
So true
This was not a scientific test!!! It was for entertainment purposes only!!! 🤠
well... they had been throwing out modern regulations since the 97' with the first EURO regulation for ICE vehicles
LOL we offer all the same stuff. nothing new here.
@@PaulGienau but Europe's work lol
My little super compact Peugeot E208 has the same system and it actually works. It saved me from running into a traffic jam in bad weather and also braked for a cyclist running a red light.
Scania and Volvo trucks are technologically the best
Well, any Eurotruck actually is. If you name Mercedes, Daf, Iveco MAN etc. They will also beat the Americans.
@@Whitehousebeetle and DAF is Paccar which also owns Peterbill and Kennwoth. They can but don't want to
@@alflife2007it doesn't work like that.
Look Also Mercedes
@@alflife2007 Most American brands are owned by European companies:
- International, owned by Traton, the VW Group who also owns Scania and MAN.
- Volvo owns Volvo trucks Europe, Volvo trucks USA, Renault trucks, Mack
- Freightliner iis owned by Daimler truck, which is basically the Mercedes Group
- Western Star Trucks is owned by Daimler
- Sterling is owned by Daimler
- Detroit Diesel is owned by Daimler as well
- PACCAR owns DAF, Kenworth and Peterbilt, but the PACCAR engines are mostly from DAF now.
But American brands keep some independence, and don't seem to want modern technologies.
The Cascadia's automatic braking system is like a parachute that deploys after you hit the ground.
Thanks for the laugh 🤣, great way to put it!
The Wile E Coyote special, lol
Once again there's Swedish engineering for ya. You are welcome.
Greetings from Sweden 😊
An episode on costing would be interesting. I recall another trucker asking how much the new Scanua is, and realing at the price.
Here in Australia Scania's are expensive, yet, they make up a third of trucks on the road. When you crunch the numbers they are more economical per mile.
An episode that compares Scania to Kenworth, Peterbilt and Mack. Cost should be done over 10 year period. Considering that Scania is so reliable, they could be leased over a longer period. Other cost factors such as fuel consumption, services and engine rebuilds should be looked at.
Problem is if you stopped like that on an US road then the American truckers with their 1970s brakes would just slam in the back.
Hence why all trucks need to be Euro trucks 😉
Again and again and again.... We also have disc brakes on American trucks!
@@void308 Really ...all I see is those stupid drums ...even on the steering axle
@victorbaarn-v2p And? You want drums, choose drums. I have discs and so do many others.
It's all about choice! 😘😘
Scania..... the best tractor ever
Here in Kenya, companies that own Scanias get the most jobs...coz of their safety
I drive a R440 mid lift 2019,transporting LPGas
The auto braking is more reactive the faster you go. Had it on a VW Passatt company car, our 2019 Discovery (LR5) on my E53 Mercedes and the other half's Kia Niro. Bloody epic.
Even more reactive in a truck due to stopping distances! This is part of why truck drivers honk at people for cutting in so close in front of them, it can very easily trigger emergency braking if the cutting in vehicle brakes even slightly.
@@VoxelLoop I drive trucks
@@VoxelLoop it even reacts on bridges and sidecurbs :D
I think the Scania also is aware of the load and also applies the brake appropriately. (to achieve the proper deacceleration)
@ The system used by Scania, from my understanding, reacts to the overall weight of the truck, so if you are hauling 44t the system calculates stopping distance for your speed and weight then brakes earlier.
Hi bruce I own a scania 770s v8 it s a year old and this is why I have one they are fantastic trucks in many many ways I just couldn't belive that freightliner from 2019 it was sliding all over the place . The scania 770s is as is other scania trucks are very safe very nice to drive I own three a 770s v8 a r590 and a 650s v8 . Even the old scania beat the pants of your American truck . You American boys need these new scania trucks like yesterday
Best truck in America right now
Great one
Worst
Bruce putting in the work to roll out aesthetically pleasing content.. we see you
"Did we hit it?" You guys need the front view mirror on top of the windscreen to check it is very useful.
typically that scania has it, but it was stripped for US market...
there is none on this unit.....
Why are they not allowed I the USA? Another safety feature they could do with
He intentionally ordered it without those mirrors, presumably because the didn't like the look of them.
But it makes sense too, because american trucks don't have them and he wants it to appeal to them.
@SirIdot I thought I heard in a previous video that they wernt allowed them on American vehicles
144 did amazing! That was little bit of a suprise. Tell me again ppl how american trucks are better.. I'll wait.
There's already been someone trying, and failing big by using the "we 'muericans prefere real trucks..." argument, not understanding that as European truck, specially specked for the Nordics (same axle config as what Bruce has) is larger and n sll ways, exept from bumper to rear wheel, and have less drag from the trailer because of how close it is to the cabin.
euro trucks save lives flash chrome doesn't
@wayniexagt I'm a Hungarian woman. (I don't know how I got here.😅) Anyway, I noticed that American manufacturers pay attention to the safety of those sitting inside first, while here in Europe we also put emphasis on the safety of people and objects outside. After all, in a truck accident, it's safer to sit inside than to stand outside...
@invisiblelathatatlan i would not want to be in an American truck in the event of a crash they are pop rivetted together and the main cab falls apart no good when you are inside plus their braking systems are very substandard to European truck ... many videos prove this ... this being one of them
Time to load up the truck, the breaksystem is auto adjusted to weight of load. Life saver
The new Scania is not wasting distance on auto-brake, but that also means it maintains optimal traction and keeps the rig controllable if you chose to steer clear of the obstacle - and as a bonus, intended or not, whoever is behind you gets some extra distance to brake instead of ending up under your trailer's bumper. I love technology when it works. 😊
Thats just nuts!! Obviously the outcome fully loaded would be different but it does show us mere mortals where the money goes in R & D by these companies, amazing that a truck shaped like a brick performs that well , thanks bruce & the team for entertaining us while educating us too !! Haha a bit hello from great britain
Jeżdżę taką w Polsce tylko że już z nową deską rozdzielczą z tabletami i ten system już parę razy mi uratował tyłek😅 pozdrawiam fajny kanał daje suba💪💪
The new / Blue Scania is just incredible/ impressive 👌
That is phenomenal, not just the new Scania, the 97 one while it doesn't have automatic braking, it brakes excellently and gracefully.
That Freightliner is just all around sad. How is it that slow when it's not loaded down at all?
Way back when I first started I had some yard work at the end of my shift, including bobtailing over a couple of Volvos over to a fuel station to fuel up. These were not big tractors, single rear axle, 380 hp, tiny things from 2001-2003. They accelerated as fast as my car without a trailer weighing them down.
Swedish perfection its also works greats with a 26 meter roadtrain
It calculates estimated braking distance according to the load, afaik.
@squidcaps4308 it's works with a sonar Rader in combination with the GPS Frome the gearbox also with the loading type. End a lot off other sensors
Up to 60 metres in Australia
@@railvlogger1439 that's not a loud on Europe only if it is convoy exceptioneel. And the trailers is also a big difference than on Australië. Big brake disk, ebs, Axel lifters, singel big tire's
34.5m trucks are allowed in Sweden now on certain routes.
I’m a coach driver in the uk and drive Iriza Spanish built coaches on Scania and MAN platforms and they can recognise pedestrians and vehicles with anti collision brakes. To be honest most coaches have this technology as standard in the uk now.
Here's a video of a European Volvo truck emergency braking with a trailer to avoid hitting a kid running out behind a bus. Imagine if that was an American truck... they'd probably not even see the kid over the hood 🤷
ua-cam.com/video/TtN2STogGXI/v-deo.htmlsi=tWL13gzOq5Cy5rW0
Yes good reaction form the driver and brilliant brakes! (Not automatic emergency brake system in this case)
Actually,I think It was automatic breaking. I might be wrong ,but I read somewhere ,on some forum ,the driver of that truck wrote himself that it was automatic braking. I might be wrong so don't quote me on that.
@@MunjoMunjo-qi2tx correct !!
Quick question.... how do you manage to post links on youtube?? 😵💫
If that was in america we would have to be watching that video on liveleak
Here in Europe I think it is still Volvo trucks that are so famous for their emergency braking. Probably because there have been rather impressive youtube videos where school kids are not turned into red paste. I think all new euro trucks are similar in breaking performance because this tech is mandatory now.
Mercedes
I think Mercedes is better too. They are currently the leader in Automonous driving.
@@dennis1143 they wrote the book from the beginning.
They don't break. They brake instead.
I don't like Volvo so much. In the Volvo's you are sitting so high up in the seat, while in Scania you can just let the air out from the chair. I prefer sitting in a Scania then in a Volvo that's for sure but I drive both.
That demonstration by a none company driver showing just how much safer these European Trucks are compared to American Trucks should be an eye opener!!!
Just imagine how many accidents could be avoided!!!
European safety rules are very strict, also for blind Spot mirrors, to see pedestrians and cyclists all around the vehicle
He might be Non Company but he is also very bias to Scania now.
@@FrankRobertsJr I imagine for good reason.
People seem to not know or forget that trucks aren't limited to 50 mph in all of the US, like they seem to be in most of Europe. Trucks commonly go 70 mph in the US.
I'm willing to bet the speed difference is a bigger factor than anything. European trucks aren't miracles
@@Diemersteinyeah, money and free stuff obviously
thats why scania is my favorite
I am 100% confident that the average European truck, weather it's a loggingtruck, a dumptruck or a tractor-trailer have much better brakes than the equivalent american truck has, why? Because in sweden for example we have yearly inspections of all heavy trucks and trailers were they brake-test each axle separate on rollers in the floor, they simulates the load and if there's any deviating results on any axle we simply don't pass and has one month to come back with fixed brakes. We also have had abs brakes both on trucks and trailers for at least 20 years.
Bruce, you are doing good job for US market, more you talk about differences, more US companies will try harder to compete (hope so). Same like with cars, few years back US cars was pretty bad, and now they are comparable, sometimes better than the rest of the world.
There is no real competition..cause euro trucks are.not available in the USA.
Bruce, I have watched your channels since the very beginning. I saw the thumbnail, and went, “O…S*it! This dumbass is about to destroy something!” (Honestly, you have that history.) Then I saw inflatables. Well done.
Will say typically these tests are done with soft targets resembling actual vehicles, especially for systems that use cameras. If you can borrow one to test with the Freightliner I would be curious to see if it does the same thing or behaves differently.
Props to Scania for going deep into object detection.
European Truck, car, and bus manufacturers are required by LAW to pulse the hazard lights (as well as turn them on after an emergency braking scenario such as what we saw in this video).. makes me wish America would follow suit because i have seen some scares because of people not paying attention. it is crazy to see how quickly something THIS heavy stop that quickly.. truly mindblowing
The orange/amber hazard light, not red...
@@Lorre982 Correct. Orange/Amber for warning/direction and red lights only for brake and awareness (in lack of another word). After coming to a full stop in this scenario, the brake has to be engaged to disable the emergency flashing off the lights.
@@uttiponken Don't forget pulsing the brake lights too under heavy braking! Really effective at getting the attention of other drivers!
Even my 2012 car already has it. Don't ask me how I know. 😁
Works on big animals too,
Line assists will help also.
If you’re coming to quickly in a corner as well it quickly reduces your to safe speed. It feels if the weight shifts to much in a long turn and a warning is given maybe even slow you down.
Many things that make life safer for drivers and others including animals.
It safer for the cargo as well, more get delivered and more can go home.
Less downtime, less loss.
yay. It's always fun to see your latest videos Bruce and crew.
Cant belive how impressed they are about what NORMAL safety we have in Europe...
European trucks are so much saver I guess 😉
I drive a Volvo FH4 it also brakes automatically.
It's a great invention it makes our job a bit saver but it's a pain in the face if a car passes you and goes back in your lane to short before your bumper..
When you have a load of 20.000 kilo then you feel that in the neck..
Great content 👌
Keep on trucking!
Perhaps authorities should be relaying that information to car drivers. I didn't know about your auto brakes activating like that, and in future will try to not pull back in until I am well ahead of the truck.
Bring Scania into the USA and it will up everyones game. Its good for the industry!
No one is gonna buy it and its not happening because trump is back and he supports only buying from America so maybe in another universe
As much as I love American trucks, especially the long hood ones, it is kind of scary to see how much better a 25 year old European truck stops than a modern American truck.
Maybe I'm wrong here but I believe you have to be using the cruise control for the automated breaking to take hold Maybe...
Shouldn't the automated emergency breaking always be active. On the Scania it is.
@@catd11ng74 On the American trucks that I drive this seems to be the case for me.
I've spent a lot of time in a lot of different trucks over my time here in Australia, many of them Scanias, many of them American. The retarders are second to none and they have the safest auto braking system out there. I was in a 2016 R560 towing an A Double (30m or about 100 ft long 2 trailer road train weighing 80ish tonnes) going over the West Gate bridge in Melbourne. The downhill section of this bridge is very steep and long. I usually like to keep a minimum braking distance of a full truck length when in town doing 60km/h (35 mph if you prefer your measurements in bananas). This bridge had 3 lanes open at the time and I always travel in the middle one which is the widest and safest. 4 cars changed lanes in front of me all at the same time shortening my braking distance up to about 3m (10 feet) and the front one for whatever reason decided they needed to brake fairly hard. I had the retarder set to hold me at my legal speed and the auto brake system put the brakes on quicker than my foot could get to the pedal. I believe this saved the people in that last car from having a very bad day, if not their last. Before this I'd had a Volvo tried to kill me and the guy behind me when its auto brake system decided I was going to hit the truck I was overtaking and locked everything up. I was dead against these systems before this day but now I firmly believe that Scania should do what Volvo did in the 70's with their retractable seat belts and make their automatic braking system open source for all the other manufacturers to use.
First of all, Scania and Volvo have a lot of partnerships so they actually co develop things.
Seconds of all, most probably mobileye is the supplier of the AEB - someone please correct me if i am wrong.
Third of all, your Volvo, remember that it was an older tech compared to this It always evolve, and also, nothing is fool proof. First Volvo used kid of a lidar thing, then they combined it with radar and camera. Then they removed the lidar thing and only went with radar and camera. Or a racam as i have in my Volvo.
Volvos auto brake system was introduced around 20 years ago!
@@Xanthopteryx The issue I mentioned in the Volvo is and has been in their manual since 2014. The Scania I was in was only 2 years younger than the 2014 FH700 that caused the issue. I will be in a 2023 Volvo in the next few days, we have a lot of them where I am currently working and I will verify this for you. Not sure who makes it but it is way inferior to the 2016 Scania version I mentioned above. If you are on a bend the Volvo version will pick up telephone poles and cars in driveways waiting to pull out onto the street. The Scania ones don't do this.
That's impressive, Bruce. It's an awesome video, buddy. I appreciate you sharing, buddy 👍
i would like to see your blue peterbilt in the test but it was very nice👍
I've tested the aeb on the new gen Scanias in 2018.
Are you ready to be out through the windscreen of that 770? 🤣 even the old 4 series will stop if the brakes are good and mantained, very clean that 4 series.
"if the brakes are good and mantained" i guess the main fleet cheap drivers in the US will fail already on that one :D
@Joel.V. haha yeah I guessed that since you're inspections are very relaxed in USA never mind the routine of services.
Great and very entertaining video. Very, very impressive performance from the new Scania I have to say.
did you notice how the suspension adapts to the breaking also ,its not just the abs ,its a coplex beast
This was a interesting video...showing how safety actually works..😊
We didn't expect anything else with our European legislation regarding safety...if it doesn't work, it won't be on the road.
I have watched your Scania videos like multiple times, really enjoying what you doing with it wish you could put more videos sooner definitely enjoy the heck out of your content lately
I understand why the US doesn't allow European trucks, because then they see what kind of junk they build themselves. It also protects their market because the factories can close.
European trucks aren't banned, they simply don't homologate them because of the importation taxes. Freightliner is owned by Daimler Trucks, same with Traton who owns Scania and Navistar/International, so if they want US trucks companies can have access at the same technologies.
@p4olo537 why are Americans than still building trash iff they have acces to the technology.
Better than a Rolls Royce, I would say. I’am impressed 👍
I love the way American trucks look and how the engines sound (talking about Kenworth and Peterbilt), and I miss seeing the old cabovers, but they are falling behind in tech and innovation…. They need to step up the game. Love this Scania.
falling, or fallen?
Both @@jukeseyable
@@Xirque666 can they get any worst, they are all ready back in the 1970s, what next, everything finished in brown?
@@jukeseyable "You can get it in any color, as long as it's black..." 🤣
Behind ....you americans ..Really ..?????...😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Simply the best Scania
I find this hilarious watching from the UK that this is new tech to the Americans, its standard on nearly everything here now and has been around for maybe 10 years...
Yes Brilliant ..and as another guy from < England > told me several years ago quote : they < the americans > don't know S..t when we were discussing this and other subjects about the uninformed american ...
This has been available in the US for at least 6 years. Obviously Bruce has every incentive to make the US trucks look as bad as possible.
You imagine how much shorter you brake distance would have been with a trailer on. I have driven 2015/2016/17 Scania's with all the safety gear on it can bloody annoying but if it's on and working it saves lives. There is a Volvo Truck video showing off adaptive braking and lane control, worth a watch.
Always cool to see .. Scania is very good Truck..
I would like to see break test with fully loaded trailer with 44 tons. It would be interesting to see europien an US fully loaded truck brake side by side, I know you don't have europien trailer but it would be still cool to see that.
Also it would be interesting to see acselaration difference of fully loaded trucks, on flat surface and up the steep hill. It would be cool to see a drag race like that between American and European trucks.
the european wins it by far
@matiasmaensivu7723 it is pretty much expected that European truck will win, but there are no videos comparing two new trucks from USA and Europe on UA-cam. It would be nice to see video showing difference between loaded American and European trucks in breaking and acselarating.
There are plenty of videos comparing Europien trucks.
Scania rules trucking world!!!
In safety Volvo rules the trucking world though :)
@@AlexKall true
Worth also noting that when you done the auto break on the new gen you also had the rear axle up so if it was down you’d stop even faster like the old gen scania did, would also love to see a sudden break test so something like pushing the inflatables out in front as it drives along to test how reactive it is when something sudden pops infront like a person running in front for example
Given it has more breaking power in reserve for heavier trailers, that would be pretty impressive to watch, I'd imagine
The faster you go, the sooner it reacts. Volvo have a good demo video of the system. I've had it activate on me when I was driving a MAN. I was approaching a car turning left ( in the UK ) and being overtaken by another truck. I timed my speed to pull out from behind the car and tuck in behind the truck overtaking me. The automatic braking system didn't like what I was trying to do and just applied the brakes. I never touched them. It was all done by the truck. I wasn't at risk of collision , but the truck didn't like my closing speed on the one turning left .
You can get an self adjusting airfoil which lifts up to increase resistance and R and S series, but its only available as an option on limited specifications
Braking system in both Scania and the new Volvo's is impressive, way ahead of the American models. I did notice there is a difference in the braking performance with the braking systems in the trailers, especially loaded. I had trailers made that had the same disc brake system to the European trucks, which resulted in having a similar braking distance as the Prime mover, compared to trailers that had drum brakes. If I do buy another rig to operate on the East Coast of Australia, I would go to Scania. My favorite thing with the Scania is the gear shift options.
The 144 has ABS, ABS for both truck and trailer has been around for quite a while in Europe.
Crazy how it was in centimeters close
The truck measures the soeed of the truck, the weight of the truck (including cargo) and the distance to the "target" and then tries to break down in a as safe/smooth as possible way (for both parts), thst eay the truck won't uncontrollably throw you against the front screen. This depending on distance.
It's not actually that close acording to the truck, if you look right above where the front license plate would be you see a black square, that's the radar sensor and the distance from that to whatever obstacle is what the truck thinks the distance is
Use the adaptive cruise control on the dodge next time to test the emergency braking. That or check the settings to see if you have emergency braking set to minimum or turned off
Your 144 Scania has ABS. (I drove similar truck 11 years). But does that one have drum or disk brakes? Looking at stopping distance, I'd say you have disk.
Drum
the black 144 has drums at least in the back or had when the changed the wheels
@@Bruce_Wilson Btw, if you want to see how european truck really breaks, here's s footage from a test:
ua-cam.com/video/i3R1dgjcXXg/v-deo.html
50miles/h
167 551 pounds
Stopping distance: 160feet.
@@Saunis in the EU ESC and ABS are also mandatory for the trailers so there is basically no risk in just slamming it.
If you do the same with a no ESC/ABS truck and trailer, praying is the only remaining option.
Try the hellcat on adaptive cruise at 30 mph and side if the auto braking engages. Not many NA cars have the auto braking/auto steering avoidance when not on adaptive cruise.
Cheers and Happy New Years,, 👍🌟👍
You should show the ones in charge of trucks safety and approval of trucks a video with the Freightliner and Scania R770 alone, and ask if that is what American trucks are capable of, compared to European. It might be a way to make them consider to legalize Scania for the American market
The scania auto braking is good to have, but occasionally it picks up a false positive, on narrow roads with sharp bends it can pick up parked cars as a threat and brake by itself, not a bad thing to be over cautious, they also have TC traction control and stability control ( vertical yaw sensor) all these systems can be deactivated, auto brakes have their own button, TC press once activates off road mode ( no TC but Stability control still activated) press and hold the TC button, white warning on dash for off road mode comes on, continue to hold and stability control turns off ( yellow warning on dash ) continue to hold ( with handbrake on ) and the rolling road function is activated, you’ll need that mode for power testing or roller brake tests 👍
Depending on the country and truck, deactivating the system will also be noted in the drive logs.
@@DooMMasteR most likely yeah, tbh I don’t like the stability control because it’s very abrupt when it comes on, usually on round abouts with the changes of camber it’s activated and brakes very suddenly, cars that are too close behind would have no chance to stop in time. I was also told the active braking uses all the available space hence in the video it’s so close to the “target”
Without touching it
@bazil-ej2ep they pick stuff up they all do that, the odd lamp post usually, never had one do the emergency stop on a bend though, trucks smart enough to know it's turning and at speed so if it does apply them it won't be full on like a staightline stop it will be enough to keep you from jacking or rolling the AEBS will work with stability control to make that the least possible outcome.
I couldn't stop smiling, when I saw the '97 was better at stopping, than the Hellcat (or whatever that car is).
You've gotta ask why the USA has been so very complacent about its truck manufacturing whilst the rest of the developed world has totally surpassed them technically by an enormous margin.
Its because Americans are constantly fed the lie by corporations and government that they're the greatest and are getting a good deal (lmao). They take the bait and so get complacent.
@@jamesxj3933Exactly correct!
What’s more insane is EBS Trailers will stop with that Scania too.😎👍🏼
The scania auto brake is not bulletproof... i still experience during rain/fog when there is a large sign above the road or a low bridge that the truck can clear that its still slamming on the brakes.. but if you step on the gas after the warning you can override auto brake in those cases but dispite that its still a good system
A testament to Scania's engineers, no wonder shes "King Of The Road" I just cant believe how far the US truck technology is behide the European trucks, just imagine how many lifes having the Scania over there could save, surely that alone should wake your government up, or who ever it is that dont allow them over there, unless there 25yrs old. Madness!
I still can't get over the build quality. That new Peterbuilt looked like something you buy at an equipment auction with that Maaco special slap-n-dash paint job
If they can't even figure out how to paint a truck, how are they going to figure out electronics or radar?
You said yourself, a brand new Peterbuilt at a truck show is a joke because they just don't care when they assemble them new.
The first Scanias started getting ABS in 1991. So Surely your 1997 has ABS. EU legislation requires heavy commercial vehicles over 3500kg gross weight to stop entirely within 10meter at 30km/h no matter the load. And the sliding or skidding. So that's why your Scania just goes straight when braking, it is build and designed for it.
But watch it with automatic brakes and cruise control activated. It will start braking when a vehicle in front of you turns to the right. And don't rely on the automatic brakes in snow and heavy rain, the distance radar will turn off automatically!!
DAF, Peterbill and Kennworth owned by Paccar. Tech is available for all brands.
Everything is a competition and regulations.
Indeed. We also have this technology in North America, but a lot of companies and drivers don't want it but these European guys simply can't understand what it is to have that freedom when it comes to spec'ing your truck. ❤
Its about safety not freedom,so you like to be free and have shitty brakes and put other life's in danger...I forgot America doesn't give a shit about human life...
@tbcrulezz 🤣 🇺🇲🇨🇦 Sorry man can't hear ya... Freedom is ringing 🏁
@@void308 Your freedom has the consequence of much more dangerous traffic in the US and more deadly accidents than in Europe. Such safety systems should be mandatory as they don't impact the driver but can save lifes.
All the safety features on the Scania are next level. American manufacturers are needing to relocate the same safety features.
Scania f ya!!! Even the older one performed well!
Awesome break checking test, Mr. Wilson🔥😎🤘🏽
The last person thinking US trucks are better than European trucks just left the building....
Had a 25 metric ton truck, decided to test brake it... I work in research for Scania in sweden btw...
Like the feeling of being inside and the whole front is dipping cause the thing is trying to stop, its sick. And yet you dont feel like you are being thrown into the windshield. Those brakes just work.
There are several videos of us semi trucks advanced braking systems locking up when semi truck goes into little curve causing the truck to jack knife at highway speed! Other thing is if you’re pulling a older semi trailer with an ABS system tractor it can get live very easily and what conditions. European semi trucks are way beyond ours for safety when it comes to breaking they should regulate that part in the US to change to save lives
Don't US trailers also have ABS and ESC, is it really just the tractors?
@@DooMMasteR I believe they do have ABS.. they must have!
@@DooMMasteR Our trailers have ABS.
@@marcmo7138 how does it work? I have never seen a connector for the electronic brake controller on any of the trailers, only the old ebrake stuff... or are they also ISO 12098 (trailer lights) and ISO 7638-1 (EBS/ABS) like over here...
@@DooMMasteR Plugs in right through the normal light cord.
I'm "old school" but the more I watch your Scania truck videos the more I realize Scania has a place on the American Truck Scene. But I also realize building a plant here in the US and the networking of sales and service would be a lot of $$$$$. Maybe hooking up with Allison Transmission (Indianapolis) might be a good fit threw Allison's distributor system. So, what's in it for Allison? Possible exclusive rights to sell automatics to Scania.
Scania has their own R&D transmission department