@ObservantSeedsower awesome 👌 I'll have to check that out! 😀 I have not shot mine yet, but it's what I hear a lot of folks saying about the 1300 and up 'high brass' I have a bunch off ammo on its way and a Turkish robocop looking bullpup pump 12G. I Also got a RIA vrpf14 pump to try out all together with the Tokerav as all of them cost $199 from PSA clearance online.
I had this same issue with cycling. I tried oobuck 2.. and 3" and bird shot, none of it cycled. Only thing I could get to cycle was 000buck but idr any details on the ammo. Glad theres a vid to point out whats recommended, thanks guys
I recently bought a Tokarev and all it needed in my case for it to function properly was breaking it in. In the beginning I kept having to re-bolt it but after about 10--13 rounds it ran each one smoothly. Hope this helps anyone who recently bought a Tokarev as well.
Thank you for your comments. If you watched this video you see where I pointed out the problem. The owner of the shotgun asked me to go ahead and fix it. The follow up video shows the results only one week later. It actually functions with anything I put in it now.
Just spring needs breaking period. Same thing with my vr80. What i recommend is when you store the gun inside your safe, pull the charging handle all the wya back and leave it for couple weeks so the spring can be loose a bit
I didn’t have any issues with ejection, but when I installed my charging handle I removed the grip and barrel. Also only loaded 4 in the factory mag with 2 3/4 shells. No problems with cycling or ejection. Does great with the 10 round mag and 20 round drum
I just bought the sport version of this. This video helped a bit on installing the charging lever. At 63 it was the 1st time I ever had to install a charge lever. It was 35ish yrs ago when I was in law enforcement in Texas that I purchased a new shotgun. Not to mention my hands no longer work as they used to lol.
You got to break these semi-auto Turkish shotguns in by racking the slide hard as hell like 200 times before you put any oil on it to wear the parts in a little bit. Then leave the bolt locked back for awhile and itll loosen the spring so itll run lighter loads better
Before I purchased the TBP12 I watched numerous videos showing the same result of flawless operation. So given that there were only two videos showing the constant malfunctions FTF, FTE I though what the hell Ill chance it. Well, I am here to state this thing SUCKS! 50 rounds of 2 3/4 turkey loads 1550 fps and 50 failures. NOT ONE ROUND FUNCTIONED. You ask; did I clean the gun beforehand? Yes, I did a thorough job of cleaning and inspecting and proper lubrication and assembly. Been doing this for 60 years. Contacted Tokarev and they said nothing. He suggested inserting the magazine fully, then pulling down to lock the mag release mechanism. Yes, you can insert the magazine too far into the receiver and the back of the mag will block the bolt from going forward. POOR DESIGN #1. Second, the factory Tokarev 10 rd mags bulge when loaded and cause the rounds to go crooked inside and not feed correctly. I am so disappointed, because I thought the design and ease of assembly/disassembly was good. I tried 3" shells but they still don't function any better.. SO far, totally disappointed and feeling ripped off
This video is probably too long. I show the cause of problems near the end and then I fix it and show it running almost perfectly in the follow up video. I sympathize with your disappointment.
You are inserting the magazine into the rifle too hard. That's why it goes up so much.Also, use a different cartridge. It is necessary to increase the gram size. I have this product too and have not had any problems. There are errors caused by you.
Howdy, Brother! The info you provide to end users is much appreciated. Question: What would be your choice between the Tokarev TAR 12P and the Tokarev TAR TT12?
I absolutely hate watching people who don’t know anything about firearms trying to do firearms reviews.🤦🏻♂️The only thing this video lacked. Was a negligent discharge.
This comment is so dumb, I’m a new gun owner and this is going to be my first gun ever, are people that may even be new to firearms not be allowed to take videos?
@@taylorfurr6530 let me rephrase that I could only put two shells at a time because of the range I was at it would fire one but the second wold jam this happened six times. Couldn't even get the bolt back the last time
Start out with high velocity high brass to break it in. It will cycle. I ran 50 rounds of 00 buckshot and mixed it up from there. I do like the JTS model a lot more.
Before you send it back try high power high brass shotgun shells 2 3/4” or at least one 3” magnum #4 birdshot load . Just to see if the more powerful shells will make it cycle . The low brass #8 birdshot loads may be too weak to force the action back .
Need higher brass shells. 2 3/4 shell with higher velocity to move the bolt back. Anything AR platform just like the 50 AE DE with that bolt you need high pressure to move it back. Lower velocity rounds will not cut it in those AR style weapons. Also clean it and oil it properly. And new weapons need at least 100 rounds through them to be properly broken in. To function properly.
Seems like the sights are on backwards. They should fold to the rear. That winchester ammo is notorious for being sicky in the chamber. Try some Federal ammo.
That's the point it's not for those with attention spans of a knat. It's a in depth review for those of us who can sit and watch it because we like to know the ins and outs of our fun guns.
@@ObservantSeedsoweryou are the wrong person to claim that - you have not even been able to insert the magazine in the beginning - you should better post videos about flowers or haircuts
Ive got three blue lasers on mine with a red tac light on bottom. Its my home defense weapon. I have flip ups on it for day time but i prefer to fight in the dark obviously
I think somebody has a trademark on the original spelling of "Tokarev" associated with guns. Just like beverage makers using "Lite" instead of light. To avoid infringing on someone else's intellectual/exclusive rights to something.
Даааа мужииик! С таким оружием ты точно не выживешь в случае необходимости 😂 Лучше купи себе Сайгу или Ак, они уже проверенные временем, а это даже оружием назвать трудно 🤦♂️
Turkish shotguns are ok. They work. They can be fun. Lots of fun to shoot. You can make them more reliable. But they don’t hold up with extensive firing. Turkish pistols I find different. They appear well made reliable and dependable. I had the Typhoon f12. I liked it. But finally sold it. I have the Sar P8L. 9mm that I love solid steel Cz75 clone and runs great. Just my opinion
I just bought the same gun and I’m clueless on what the part is but it came with a what looks like stainless steel part kinda looks like a choke but not as long but has no threads on it and it said heavy loads on it does anyone know what it could be for
Not enough power in those low brass shells to make the gun cycle properly. You need high brass high power or the three inch magnum shotgun shells to make it cycle properly.
i have a mossberg 835 and a tokarev . i use my tokarev tbp12 just as much as my mossberg and it functions just as well as my mossberg does . some people dont care about name brand some people cant afford name brand so they go with what they can . sure some maybe cheaper but dont make it a bad firearm
Then you need to buy some quality spring loaded flip up sights. I didn't mess with the factory sights I bought new sights and they work the way they are supposed to.
Take an inexpensive Russian MP-155/75/20 magnum caliber. Shoot 25-50 magnum rounds (shot load 32 grams) and then disassemble it and lubricate it, and then the rounds with 20-32 grams of shot will reload themselves. And you will be happy! Good luck. Возьмите недорогое Российское МР-155/75/20 калибра магнум. Отстреляйте, 25-50 патронов магнум, (заряд дроби 32 грамма) а потом разберите его и смажет, и тогда патроны с 20-32 грамма дроби будут сами перезаряжаться. И будет вам счастье! Удачи.
Коробку пока смотрел видео смотреть перехотел. Ну зачем 2 часа показывать котобку, а для того чтобы поиздеваться над теми кто тебе ставит лайки и поддерживает твой канал!
I don't have to use "high power" rounds. I fixed the weapon and now it shoots anything I put in it. If your interested just watch the followup video linked at the end of this video. Thanks for your comment.
The comments you made in you video at 35:04 in your video about the high spots is a elusive claim that is non factual the fact of the matter is that you improperly ran this shotgun and may have caused damage by continuously operating it with improper ammunition and not breaking it in properly do not blame the manufacture for misuse. And further more you need extended training on firearms safety you never showed clear nor pointed the firearm in a safe direction after operation too cycle or show a clear chamber and flagged (that's when you point the firearm at the camera person before making sure it was empty a couple of times) the CAMERA PERSON which believe are YOU TUBE VIOLATION'S !
Вообще, это похоже на попытку сделать гладкую Сайгу на основе М16 - полный бред. Процетируя персонажа-инопланетянина из фантастического фильма "Враг мой", роль которого исполнил Луис Госсет Мл. : " Не прочно!". Или MG.34 под гладкоствол переделали (Джордж Лукас и Кейтлин Кеннеди оторвали бы с руками).
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Great unboxing video. Love the single shot shotgun!😂
Yea worry about the sights, but it wont cycle LOL
just picked one up today, love how the instructions are not there for installing the charging handle, thanks for this video.
Your welcome and thank you.
I found out the hard way when I bought mine.Thank you for putting videos on you tube about this.
Yes, this needs high brass 1300 and up! For proper functionality 🎉
If you watch the follow up video you'll see that it actually does run nicely with the low steel 1200 after I worked on it a little.
@ObservantSeedsower awesome 👌 I'll have to check that out! 😀
I have not shot mine yet, but it's what I hear a lot of folks saying about the 1300 and up 'high brass'
I have a bunch off ammo on its way and a Turkish robocop looking bullpup pump 12G. I Also got a RIA vrpf14 pump to try out all together with the Tokerav as all of them cost $199 from PSA clearance online.
I had this same issue with cycling. I tried oobuck 2.. and 3" and bird shot, none of it cycled. Only thing I could get to cycle was 000buck but idr any details on the ammo. Glad theres a vid to point out whats recommended, thanks guys
When you load it with 2 3/4 shells it ejects great ..great video
That’s what I use in my TBP 12P. No issues.
I recently bought a Tokarev and all it needed in my case for it to function properly was breaking it in. In the beginning I kept having to re-bolt it but after about 10--13 rounds it ran each one smoothly. Hope this helps anyone who recently bought a Tokarev as well.
Leave the bolt open for about 30 day's and it will relax the spring .
It will function with any loads.
Thank you for your comments. If you watched this video you see where I pointed out the problem. The owner of the shotgun asked me to go ahead and fix it. The follow up video shows the results only one week later. It actually functions with anything I put in it now.
@@ObservantSeedsowerWhat’s the timestamp on when you discuss the problem you fixed?
Just spring needs breaking period. Same thing with my vr80. What i recommend is when you store the gun inside your safe, pull the charging handle all the wya back and leave it for couple weeks so the spring can be loose a bit
Turkish guns usually need high velocity shells 1300 and above before it will cycle when breaking in. They are made to shoot high velocity ammo.
I didn’t have any issues with ejection, but when I installed my charging handle I removed the grip and barrel. Also only loaded 4 in the factory mag with 2 3/4 shells. No problems with cycling or ejection. Does great with the 10 round mag and 20 round drum
В моем детстве тоже были пластмассовые ружья.
Теперь исключительно цельно металлические . 🤔👆
I just bought the sport version of this. This video helped a bit on installing the charging lever. At 63 it was the 1st time I ever had to install a charge lever. It was 35ish yrs ago when I was in law enforcement in Texas that I purchased a new shotgun. Not to mention my hands no longer work as they used to lol.
Not helpful regarding charging handle install. You could have shown the hole and which side faces up on the handle. Frustrating video for some
High brass buck or slugs 1300 or above that baby will rock!
Came for the Tokarev stayed for the kitty... 😊
Use higher power shells in full brass to get it to cycle correctly
You never adjusted the gas tube!!! To handle bird shot! You where set up for buckshot, and slugs!!! I have an S-12. I should know!!! Lol😂❤❤❤
LOL Oh ok thanks.
You got to break these semi-auto Turkish shotguns in by racking the slide hard as hell like 200 times before you put any oil on it to wear the parts in a little bit. Then leave the bolt locked back for awhile and itll loosen the spring so itll run lighter loads better
Mine worked and cycled better with high brass ammo when I was breaking it in. Then I ran the low brass field loads
Before I purchased the TBP12 I watched numerous videos showing the same result of flawless operation. So given that there were only two videos showing the constant malfunctions FTF, FTE I though what the hell Ill chance it. Well, I am here to state this thing SUCKS! 50 rounds of 2 3/4 turkey loads 1550 fps and 50 failures. NOT ONE ROUND FUNCTIONED. You ask; did I clean the gun beforehand? Yes, I did a thorough job of cleaning and inspecting and proper lubrication and assembly. Been doing this for 60 years. Contacted Tokarev and they said nothing. He suggested inserting the magazine fully, then pulling down to lock the mag release mechanism. Yes, you can insert the magazine too far into the receiver and the back of the mag will block the bolt from going forward. POOR DESIGN #1. Second, the factory Tokarev 10 rd mags bulge when loaded and cause the rounds to go crooked inside and not feed correctly. I am so disappointed, because I thought the design and ease of assembly/disassembly was good. I tried 3" shells but they still don't function any better.. SO far, totally disappointed and feeling ripped off
This video is probably too long. I show the cause of problems near the end and then I fix it and show it running almost perfectly in the follow up video. I sympathize with your disappointment.
You are inserting the magazine into the rifle too hard. That's why it goes up so much.Also, use a different cartridge. It is necessary to increase the gram size. I have this product too and have not had any problems. There are errors caused by you.
Which gram size do you recommend?
I think the video was shot with the intention of denigrating. Please don't fool people.
Патроны с маленькой навеской пороха, нужен более сильный патрон
I like the cat, ❤
Howdy, Brother! The info you provide to end users is much appreciated. Question: What would be your choice between the Tokarev TAR 12P and the Tokarev TAR TT12?
@RKELLEHER40 hi I'm not familiar with the TAR Tt12. So I can't really help with that.
I absolutely hate watching people who don’t know anything about firearms trying to do firearms reviews.🤦🏻♂️The only thing this video lacked. Was a negligent discharge.
I know what you mean. I absolutely hate reading comments from people with Dunning-Kruger syndrome.
U watched just so u could tell us u hated it?..
Plus it’s an unboxing. The fact that you didn’t know a thing about that gun actually made that video more real and authentic. Good video sir!
This comment is so dumb, I’m a new gun owner and this is going to be my first gun ever, are people that may even be new to firearms not be allowed to take videos?
Bro stay away from Turkish shotties they break fast get a Mossberg maverick 88 best cheap shotgun@@Mintworry
3 inch high brass to break it in or lock the bolt back for a week and let it sit to help loosen the spring
I just purchased one I can't get it to fire it just keeps jamming up going to try different ammo
@@taylorfurr6530 let me rephrase that I could only put two shells at a time because of the range I was at it would fire one but the second wold jam this happened six times. Couldn't even get the bolt back the last time
Start out with high velocity high brass to break it in. It will cycle. I ran 50 rounds of 00 buckshot and mixed it up from there. I do like the JTS model a lot more.
Before you send it back try high power high brass shotgun shells 2 3/4” or at least one 3” magnum #4 birdshot load . Just to see if the more powerful shells will make it cycle . The low brass #8 birdshot loads may be too weak to force the action back .
Need higher brass shells. 2 3/4 shell with higher velocity to move the bolt back. Anything AR platform just like the 50 AE DE with that bolt you need high pressure to move it back. Lower velocity rounds will not cut it in those AR style weapons. Also clean it and oil it properly. And new weapons need at least 100 rounds through them to be properly broken in. To function properly.
Токарев на коробке это к чему? Зачем использовать имя знаменитого русского конструктора оружия,для продажи всякой хрени?!
Почему вы спрашиваете меня? Я их не называю, я просто просматриваю их!
Вынужден не согласиться. На коробке написано Токляев. 😉 Жду, когда автор сделает обзор на знаменитые джинсы Docha & Cabanov 🤣🤣🤣
Так или иначе, но поганые турки используют имя нашего конструктора, хоть и криво написанное. И ствол этот годится только для помойки.
It's not Tokarev, it's Toklyaev, cheap fake like Abibas, Noike, Rolox etc.
Really....cause i have one and its reliable and badass.
Sounds like he is a purveyor of fake items.
Same lol@@Dogmanofmen
I have field model 3 1/2
I was wondering if those shells would cycle
Seems like the sights are on backwards. They should fold to the rear. That winchester ammo is notorious for being sicky in the chamber. Try some Federal ammo.
Actually I did get that cheap ammo to run perfectly. It's in the follow up video.
Informative content. Just some constructive criticism, 40 minutes is WAY too long. You could easily edit it down to 15-20
That's the point it's not for those with attention spans of a knat. It's a in depth review for those of us who can sit and watch it because we like to know the ins and outs of our fun guns.
😆 kinda sensitive ain't you Boi
@@ellapetty1964 please explain how an opinion is in any way being sensitive. I’m Gen x through and through. I have no fucking sensitivity whatsoever
Sometimes it makes sense to read the manual first
Sometimes it makes sense to have a clue what you're talking about before you comment.
@@ObservantSeedsoweryou are the wrong person to claim that - you have not even been able to insert the magazine in the beginning - you should better post videos about flowers or haircuts
@@4444design you should stick to those channels.
I ran 50 rounds of high brass birdshot through and had no feeding problems on mine
i keep hearing yuou need to jack the bolt back and leave it like that for a long time to get it broke in
Ammo not above 1300 and not greased. It was suggested that it needs to be broken in with hot fast shots, before you operate using bird or skeet shot
Was this a promotional video for Tokarev?
What a regard does a review on a shot gun he has no clue about.This guy is one smart cookie
Wonders if you have an adjustble gas system on that maybe the knob on the end
Ive got three blue lasers on mine with a red tac light on bottom. Its my home defense weapon. I have flip ups on it for day time but i prefer to fight in the dark obviously
"I thought ok this is something I know nothing about"......."This can't really be American"....Pure f*cking gold grandpa!!🤣
Very helpful thank you
Why is the last letter in the name Latin? Токляе V?(Toklyae V)
I have no earthly idea.
I think somebody has a trademark on the original spelling of "Tokarev" associated with guns.
Just like beverage makers using "Lite" instead of light. To avoid infringing on someone else's intellectual/exclusive rights to something.
Даааа мужииик! С таким оружием ты точно не выживешь в случае необходимости 😂
Лучше купи себе Сайгу или Ак, они уже проверенные временем, а это даже оружием назвать трудно 🤦♂️
This gun is a Turkish copy of the Russian weapon Saiga-12K.
Not even close
CA compliant?
Turkish shotguns are ok. They work. They can be fun. Lots of fun to shoot. You can make them more reliable. But they don’t hold up with extensive firing. Turkish pistols I find different. They appear well made reliable and dependable. I had the Typhoon f12. I liked it. But finally sold it. I have the Sar P8L. 9mm that I love solid steel Cz75 clone and runs great. Just my opinion
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I agree, the Turkish pistols like the 1911 are great. The shotguns I’ve had no luck with Boss Hog etc. Gas pistons kept breaking.
In my opinion, your front and rear sights are installed the other way around.
Should ask the guy you got it from and ask him if it supposed to cycle or not
Thanks this helped a lot getting sights on. No idea how you got the flag out so easily.
Can you set gas settings with this 12G?
I like the way he threw the fired brass on the ground instead of pocketing and throwing it in the trash.
Boooo hoooooo karen alert 😂
I just bought the same gun and I’m clueless on what the part is but it came with a what looks like stainless steel part kinda looks like a choke but not as long but has no threads on it and it said heavy loads on it does anyone know what it could be for
Same here. I’m setting mine up today and I don’t know what that part is.
Same here what is it for I have not read anything about it
That’s a cool cat
Not enough power in those low brass shells to make the gun cycle properly. You need high brass high power or the three inch magnum shotgun shells to make it cycle properly.
It's made for 3"shells..
lovely kitten
Barnys got a gun
You need some high velocity ammo to run a semi-automatic shotgun 1600 fps and up I run 1650 and 1800 on all mine. 1200 is good for a pump shotgun.
Please don't make videos like this.This could be used as a Chinese or Russian PSA that Americans don't know how to use firearms.
3 inch high brass it will run no birdshot break it in first couple hundred rounds high brass then try birdshot always oil first it’s brand new
Is he using bird shot shells.I notice it doesn't kick like it suppose to
Ay Dios .. que peligro ! Donde yo vivo a este no lo dejan usar ni una resortera...
The sticker told you where the charging handle was, you goof
Love the mascot, japontey his name?these Turkish shotguns all dont cycle light loads try heavier loads
Cha-coya-tay
Are the sights on backwards?
Nope
Yes they are. They are supposed to fold back not forward.
😻ADORABLE CAT😻
Мужик, лучше купи нормальный русский карабин "Сайга", и больше горя не знай ✌😉
Этот мужик даже ствол в руках нормально держать не может. Хотя этот турецкий аппарат полное фуфло.
Хороший ствол! Но не пойму это нарезной?? или гладкоствол?
Если ты не понял, что это гладкий полуавтомат дробосрал со стволом 30 см, зачем тебе эта информация.
Хороший флаг.И очень хорошо, что у американцев есть вторая поправка.)У меня есть бейсболка с этим флагом.
You will need a higher velocity to work right . 1350 is better speed for new guns. You will need to break in the action.
As long as mossburg and beretta are making shotguns why bother with turkish made...
i have a mossberg 835 and a tokarev . i use my tokarev tbp12 just as much as my mossberg and it functions just as well as my mossberg does . some people dont care about name brand some people cant afford name brand so they go with what they can . sure some maybe cheaper but dont make it a bad firearm
How about oiling the gun before trying to shooting it!!!! Da
Wow
Sights are backwards they fold to the rear
Every time I shot the sight flipped back and down I'm gonna turn the sights around like this guy did see if it remedy that
Then you need to buy some quality spring loaded flip up sights. I didn't mess with the factory sights I bought new sights and they work the way they are supposed to.
I have one of these and I love it
А почему именно Токарев? Что американские названия не могли придумать?
Take an inexpensive Russian MP-155/75/20 magnum caliber. Shoot 25-50 magnum rounds (shot load 32 grams) and then disassemble it and lubricate it, and then the rounds with 20-32 grams of shot will reload themselves. And you will be happy! Good luck. Возьмите недорогое Российское МР-155/75/20 калибра магнум. Отстреляйте, 25-50 патронов магнум, (заряд дроби 32 грамма) а потом разберите его и смажет, и тогда патроны с 20-32 грамма дроби будут сами перезаряжаться. И будет вам счастье! Удачи.
👏👏👏👍👍👍❤❤❤
It could be your ammo get the good stuff that’s why it’s not cycling
Коробку пока смотрел видео смотреть перехотел. Ну зачем 2 часа показывать котобку, а для того чтобы поиздеваться над теми кто тебе ставит лайки и поддерживает твой канал!
Спасибо за вашу поддержку.
@@ObservantSeedsower Да я вас всегда поддерживаю, но и вы нас тоже меньше мучайте.
use high power rounds ...never had a problem when i used high power rounds
I don't have to use "high power" rounds. I fixed the weapon and now it shoots anything I put in it. If your interested just watch the followup video linked at the end of this video. Thanks for your comment.
I have the Rock Island VR80 - AR12. I can't say anything bad about it.
Own one, Love it!!!!!!
The mag release is California standard🤣🤣🤣
Not using proper muzzle velocity loads. It's in the instructions.
The comments you made in you video at 35:04 in your video about the high spots is a elusive claim that is non factual the fact of the matter is that you improperly ran this shotgun and may have caused damage by continuously operating it with improper ammunition and not breaking it in properly do not blame the manufacture for misuse. And further more you need extended training on firearms safety you never showed clear nor pointed the firearm in a safe direction after operation too cycle or show a clear chamber and flagged (that's when you point the firearm at the camera person before making sure it was empty a couple of times) the CAMERA PERSON which believe are YOU TUBE VIOLATION'S !
Funny cat😂
Needs high brass 2 3/4 in loads or 3in shells to function properly
Leav the bolt open for about 30 days, and it will run fine with the small brass.
That will relax the spring.
Cool man I hope you are right I'm gonna leave the bolt open when stored
Need Hight brass.
Надо было "Свету" Покупать😂
Вообще, это похоже на попытку сделать гладкую Сайгу на основе М16 - полный бред. Процетируя персонажа-инопланетянина из фантастического фильма "Враг мой", роль которого исполнил Луис Госсет Мл. : " Не прочно!". Или MG.34 под гладкоствол переделали (Джордж Лукас и Кейтлин Кеннеди оторвали бы с руками).
🤣
Ammo is too light. Recommended above 1300 fps for break in
Funny video!
1200 might not cycle that shotgun, it probably needs 1250 or better
I'm impressed, he made it to 5.lol
Good weapon but the demonstrator need more practice, you don't know how to use your weapon.
No step on snake
Я всё ждал, когда он стрельнёт себе в ногу или отстрелит своей жене пальцы на ступне)))
you have a long wait.
Точняк!
Read the book before you tear into the bolt/ ejector