I had this same issue with cycling. I tried oobuck 2.. and 3" and bird shot, none of it cycled. Only thing I could get to cycle was 000buck but idr any details on the ammo. Glad theres a vid to point out whats recommended, thanks guys
@ObservantSeedsower awesome 👌 I'll have to check that out! 😀 I have not shot mine yet, but it's what I hear a lot of folks saying about the 1300 and up 'high brass' I have a bunch off ammo on its way and a Turkish robocop looking bullpup pump 12G. I Also got a RIA vrpf14 pump to try out all together with the Tokerav as all of them cost $199 from PSA clearance online.
I just bought the sport version of this. This video helped a bit on installing the charging lever. At 63 it was the 1st time I ever had to install a charge lever. It was 35ish yrs ago when I was in law enforcement in Texas that I purchased a new shotgun. Not to mention my hands no longer work as they used to lol.
I recently bought a Tokarev and all it needed in my case for it to function properly was breaking it in. In the beginning I kept having to re-bolt it but after about 10--13 rounds it ran each one smoothly. Hope this helps anyone who recently bought a Tokarev as well.
Just spring needs breaking period. Same thing with my vr80. What i recommend is when you store the gun inside your safe, pull the charging handle all the wya back and leave it for couple weeks so the spring can be loose a bit
Thank you for your comments. If you watched this video you see where I pointed out the problem. The owner of the shotgun asked me to go ahead and fix it. The follow up video shows the results only one week later. It actually functions with anything I put in it now.
@@taylorfurr6530 let me rephrase that I could only put two shells at a time because of the range I was at it would fire one but the second wold jam this happened six times. Couldn't even get the bolt back the last time
Before I purchased the TBP12 I watched numerous videos showing the same result of flawless operation. So given that there were only two videos showing the constant malfunctions FTF, FTE I though what the hell Ill chance it. Well, I am here to state this thing SUCKS! 50 rounds of 2 3/4 turkey loads 1550 fps and 50 failures. NOT ONE ROUND FUNCTIONED. You ask; did I clean the gun beforehand? Yes, I did a thorough job of cleaning and inspecting and proper lubrication and assembly. Been doing this for 60 years. Contacted Tokarev and they said nothing. He suggested inserting the magazine fully, then pulling down to lock the mag release mechanism. Yes, you can insert the magazine too far into the receiver and the back of the mag will block the bolt from going forward. POOR DESIGN #1. Second, the factory Tokarev 10 rd mags bulge when loaded and cause the rounds to go crooked inside and not feed correctly. I am so disappointed, because I thought the design and ease of assembly/disassembly was good. I tried 3" shells but they still don't function any better.. SO far, totally disappointed and feeling ripped off
This video is probably too long. I show the cause of problems near the end and then I fix it and show it running almost perfectly in the follow up video. I sympathize with your disappointment.
Seems like the sights are on backwards. They should fold to the rear. That winchester ammo is notorious for being sicky in the chamber. Try some Federal ammo.
You got to break these semi-auto Turkish shotguns in by racking the slide hard as hell like 200 times before you put any oil on it to wear the parts in a little bit. Then leave the bolt locked back for awhile and itll loosen the spring so itll run lighter loads better
You are inserting the magazine into the rifle too hard. That's why it goes up so much.Also, use a different cartridge. It is necessary to increase the gram size. I have this product too and have not had any problems. There are errors caused by you.
Turkish shotguns are ok. They work. They can be fun. Lots of fun to shoot. You can make them more reliable. But they don’t hold up with extensive firing. Turkish pistols I find different. They appear well made reliable and dependable. I had the Typhoon f12. I liked it. But finally sold it. I have the Sar P8L. 9mm that I love solid steel Cz75 clone and runs great. Just my opinion
@@ObservantSeedsoweryou are the wrong person to claim that - you have not even been able to insert the magazine in the beginning - you should better post videos about flowers or haircuts
I absolutely hate watching people who don’t know anything about firearms trying to do firearms reviews.🤦🏻♂️The only thing this video lacked. Was a negligent discharge.
This comment is so dumb, I’m a new gun owner and this is going to be my first gun ever, are people that may even be new to firearms not be allowed to take videos?
Ive got three blue lasers on mine with a red tac light on bottom. Its my home defense weapon. I have flip ups on it for day time but i prefer to fight in the dark obviously
That's the point it's not for those with attention spans of a knat. It's a in depth review for those of us who can sit and watch it because we like to know the ins and outs of our fun guns.
i have a mossberg 835 and a tokarev . i use my tokarev tbp12 just as much as my mossberg and it functions just as well as my mossberg does . some people dont care about name brand some people cant afford name brand so they go with what they can . sure some maybe cheaper but dont make it a bad firearm
Does anybody know what break in periods are I mean the 1911 brand knew for example has a break in period of 500 to 1000 rounds before it cycles properly
I think you don't understand guns. You can shoot thousands of bullets with Tokarev Tar 12 without any problems, and it has a lifetime warranty and can be replaced if there is a problem.
I don't have to use "high power" rounds. I fixed the weapon and now it shoots anything I put in it. If your interested just watch the followup video linked at the end of this video. Thanks for your comment.
Then you need to buy some quality spring loaded flip up sights. I didn't mess with the factory sights I bought new sights and they work the way they are supposed to.
Вообще, это похоже на попытку сделать гладкую Сайгу на основе М16 - полный бред. Процетируя персонажа-инопланетянина из фантастического фильма "Враг мой", роль которого исполнил Луис Госсет Мл. : " Не прочно!". Или MG.34 под гладкоствол переделали (Джордж Лукас и Кейтлин Кеннеди оторвали бы с руками).
The comments you made in you video at 35:04 in your video about the high spots is a elusive claim that is non factual the fact of the matter is that you improperly ran this shotgun and may have caused damage by continuously operating it with improper ammunition and not breaking it in properly do not blame the manufacture for misuse. And further more you need extended training on firearms safety you never showed clear nor pointed the firearm in a safe direction after operation too cycle or show a clear chamber and flagged (that's when you point the firearm at the camera person before making sure it was empty a couple of times) the CAMERA PERSON which believe are YOU TUBE VIOLATION'S !
See, it needed to be tweaked. The factory should have done it… semi auto gas guns are pretty reliable, but never seen a semiauto mag fed shotgun run “flawless”
Mine do run great after the break in. And yes they needed breaking in. You make it sound like that's a major flaw. For me it was nothing to break them in. I found the ammo they like right off the bat. And it doesn't matter the brand of ammo as long as you don't go below a certain fps. Who said flawless? I did say never fails and so far it hasn't since the break in.
Коробку пока смотрел видео смотреть перехотел. Ну зачем 2 часа показывать котобку, а для того чтобы поиздеваться над теми кто тебе ставит лайки и поддерживает твой канал!
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Great unboxing video. Love the single shot shotgun!😂
just picked one up today, love how the instructions are not there for installing the charging handle, thanks for this video.
Your welcome and thank you.
I found out the hard way when I bought mine.Thank you for putting videos on you tube about this.
I had this same issue with cycling. I tried oobuck 2.. and 3" and bird shot, none of it cycled. Only thing I could get to cycle was 000buck but idr any details on the ammo. Glad theres a vid to point out whats recommended, thanks guys
Yes, this needs high brass 1300 and up! For proper functionality 🎉
If you watch the follow up video you'll see that it actually does run nicely with the low steel 1200 after I worked on it a little.
@ObservantSeedsower awesome 👌 I'll have to check that out! 😀
I have not shot mine yet, but it's what I hear a lot of folks saying about the 1300 and up 'high brass'
I have a bunch off ammo on its way and a Turkish robocop looking bullpup pump 12G. I Also got a RIA vrpf14 pump to try out all together with the Tokerav as all of them cost $199 from PSA clearance online.
I just bought the sport version of this. This video helped a bit on installing the charging lever. At 63 it was the 1st time I ever had to install a charge lever. It was 35ish yrs ago when I was in law enforcement in Texas that I purchased a new shotgun. Not to mention my hands no longer work as they used to lol.
Not helpful regarding charging handle install. You could have shown the hole and which side faces up on the handle. Frustrating video for some
I recently bought a Tokarev and all it needed in my case for it to function properly was breaking it in. In the beginning I kept having to re-bolt it but after about 10--13 rounds it ran each one smoothly. Hope this helps anyone who recently bought a Tokarev as well.
When you load it with 2 3/4 shells it ejects great ..great video
That’s what I use in my TBP 12P. No issues.
Just spring needs breaking period. Same thing with my vr80. What i recommend is when you store the gun inside your safe, pull the charging handle all the wya back and leave it for couple weeks so the spring can be loose a bit
В моем детстве тоже были пластмассовые ружья.
Теперь исключительно цельно металлические . 🤔👆
I like the cat, ❤
Leave the bolt open for about 30 day's and it will relax the spring .
It will function with any loads.
Thank you for your comments. If you watched this video you see where I pointed out the problem. The owner of the shotgun asked me to go ahead and fix it. The follow up video shows the results only one week later. It actually functions with anything I put in it now.
@@ObservantSeedsowerWhat’s the timestamp on when you discuss the problem you fixed?
I just purchased one I can't get it to fire it just keeps jamming up going to try different ammo
@@taylorfurr6530 let me rephrase that I could only put two shells at a time because of the range I was at it would fire one but the second wold jam this happened six times. Couldn't even get the bolt back the last time
I like the way he threw the fired brass on the ground instead of pocketing and throwing it in the trash.
Boooo hoooooo karen alert 😂
High brass buck or slugs 1300 or above that baby will rock!
Mine worked and cycled better with high brass ammo when I was breaking it in. Then I ran the low brass field loads
Came for the Tokarev stayed for the kitty... 😊
Before I purchased the TBP12 I watched numerous videos showing the same result of flawless operation. So given that there were only two videos showing the constant malfunctions FTF, FTE I though what the hell Ill chance it. Well, I am here to state this thing SUCKS! 50 rounds of 2 3/4 turkey loads 1550 fps and 50 failures. NOT ONE ROUND FUNCTIONED. You ask; did I clean the gun beforehand? Yes, I did a thorough job of cleaning and inspecting and proper lubrication and assembly. Been doing this for 60 years. Contacted Tokarev and they said nothing. He suggested inserting the magazine fully, then pulling down to lock the mag release mechanism. Yes, you can insert the magazine too far into the receiver and the back of the mag will block the bolt from going forward. POOR DESIGN #1. Second, the factory Tokarev 10 rd mags bulge when loaded and cause the rounds to go crooked inside and not feed correctly. I am so disappointed, because I thought the design and ease of assembly/disassembly was good. I tried 3" shells but they still don't function any better.. SO far, totally disappointed and feeling ripped off
This video is probably too long. I show the cause of problems near the end and then I fix it and show it running almost perfectly in the follow up video. I sympathize with your disappointment.
Turkish guns usually need high velocity shells 1300 and above before it will cycle when breaking in. They are made to shoot high velocity ammo.
Seems like the sights are on backwards. They should fold to the rear. That winchester ammo is notorious for being sicky in the chamber. Try some Federal ammo.
Actually I did get that cheap ammo to run perfectly. It's in the follow up video.
You got to break these semi-auto Turkish shotguns in by racking the slide hard as hell like 200 times before you put any oil on it to wear the parts in a little bit. Then leave the bolt locked back for awhile and itll loosen the spring so itll run lighter loads better
You are inserting the magazine into the rifle too hard. That's why it goes up so much.Also, use a different cartridge. It is necessary to increase the gram size. I have this product too and have not had any problems. There are errors caused by you.
Which gram size do you recommend?
I think the video was shot with the intention of denigrating. Please don't fool people.
Wonders if you have an adjustble gas system on that maybe the knob on the end
Was this a promotional video for Tokarev?
Turkish shotguns are ok. They work. They can be fun. Lots of fun to shoot. You can make them more reliable. But they don’t hold up with extensive firing. Turkish pistols I find different. They appear well made reliable and dependable. I had the Typhoon f12. I liked it. But finally sold it. I have the Sar P8L. 9mm that I love solid steel Cz75 clone and runs great. Just my opinion
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I agree, the Turkish pistols like the 1911 are great. The shotguns I’ve had no luck with Boss Hog etc. Gas pistons kept breaking.
I ran 50 rounds of high brass birdshot through and had no feeding problems on mine
It's not Tokarev, it's Toklyaev, cheap fake like Abibas, Noike, Rolox etc.
Really....cause i have one and its reliable and badass.
Sounds like he is a purveyor of fake items.
Same lol@@Dogmanofmen
I have field model 3 1/2
I was wondering if those shells would cycle
Can you set gas settings with this 12G?
3 inch high brass to break it in or lock the bolt back for a week and let it sit to help loosen the spring
Патроны с маленькой навеской пороха, нужен более сильный патрон
Why is the last letter in the name Latin? Токляе V?(Toklyae V)
I have no earthly idea.
CA compliant?
You need some high velocity ammo to run a semi-automatic shotgun 1600 fps and up I run 1650 and 1800 on all mine. 1200 is good for a pump shotgun.
Are the sights on backwards?
Nope
Yes they are. They are supposed to fold back not forward.
Sometimes it makes sense to read the manual first
Sometimes it makes sense to have a clue what you're talking about before you comment.
@@ObservantSeedsoweryou are the wrong person to claim that - you have not even been able to insert the magazine in the beginning - you should better post videos about flowers or haircuts
@@4444design you should stick to those channels.
I absolutely hate watching people who don’t know anything about firearms trying to do firearms reviews.🤦🏻♂️The only thing this video lacked. Was a negligent discharge.
I know what you mean. I absolutely hate reading comments from people with Dunning-Kruger syndrome.
U watched just so u could tell us u hated it?..
Plus it’s an unboxing. The fact that you didn’t know a thing about that gun actually made that video more real and authentic. Good video sir!
This comment is so dumb, I’m a new gun owner and this is going to be my first gun ever, are people that may even be new to firearms not be allowed to take videos?
Bro stay away from Turkish shotties they break fast get a Mossberg maverick 88 best cheap shotgun@@Mintworry
You never adjusted the gas tube!!! To handle bird shot! You where set up for buckshot, and slugs!!! I have an S-12. I should know!!! Lol😂❤❤❤
LOL Oh ok thanks.
Use higher power shells in full brass to get it to cycle correctly
Ive got three blue lasers on mine with a red tac light on bottom. Its my home defense weapon. I have flip ups on it for day time but i prefer to fight in the dark obviously
Хороший ствол! Но не пойму это нарезной?? или гладкоствол?
Если ты не понял, что это гладкий полуавтомат дробосрал со стволом 30 см, зачем тебе эта информация.
Is he using bird shot shells.I notice it doesn't kick like it suppose to
In my opinion, your front and rear sights are installed the other way around.
👏👏👏👍👍👍❤❤❤
You will need a higher velocity to work right . 1350 is better speed for new guns. You will need to break in the action.
This gun is a Turkish copy of the Russian weapon Saiga-12K.
Not even close
Informative content. Just some constructive criticism, 40 minutes is WAY too long. You could easily edit it down to 15-20
That's the point it's not for those with attention spans of a knat. It's a in depth review for those of us who can sit and watch it because we like to know the ins and outs of our fun guns.
😆 kinda sensitive ain't you Boi
@@ellapetty1964 please explain how an opinion is in any way being sensitive. I’m Gen x through and through. I have no fucking sensitivity whatsoever
Love the mascot, japontey his name?these Turkish shotguns all dont cycle light loads try heavier loads
Cha-coya-tay
Very helpful thank you
"I thought ok this is something I know nothing about"......."This can't really be American"....Pure f*cking gold grandpa!!🤣
Хороший флаг.И очень хорошо, что у американцев есть вторая поправка.)У меня есть бейсболка с этим флагом.
Токарев на коробке это к чему? Зачем использовать имя знаменитого русского конструктора оружия,для продажи всякой хрени?!
Почему вы спрашиваете меня? Я их не называю, я просто просматриваю их!
Вынужден не согласиться. На коробке написано Токляев. 😉 Жду, когда автор сделает обзор на знаменитые джинсы Docha & Cabanov 🤣🤣🤣
The sticker told you where the charging handle was, you goof
lovely kitten
How about oiling the gun before trying to shooting it!!!! Da
Wow
As long as mossburg and beretta are making shotguns why bother with turkish made...
i have a mossberg 835 and a tokarev . i use my tokarev tbp12 just as much as my mossberg and it functions just as well as my mossberg does . some people dont care about name brand some people cant afford name brand so they go with what they can . sure some maybe cheaper but dont make it a bad firearm
Thanks this helped a lot getting sights on. No idea how you got the flag out so easily.
Ammo is too light. Recommended above 1300 fps for break in
Pourquoi encore le levier d'armement a droite ???!!! .
Not using proper muzzle velocity loads. It's in the instructions.
Does anybody know what break in periods are I mean the 1911 brand knew for example has a break in period of 500 to 1000 rounds before it cycles properly
1200 might not cycle that shotgun, it probably needs 1250 or better
I have one of these and I love it
I think you don't understand guns. You can shoot thousands of bullets with Tokarev Tar 12 without any problems, and it has a lifetime warranty and can be replaced if there is a problem.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks for your comments.
I'm impressed, he made it to 5.lol
use high power rounds ...never had a problem when i used high power rounds
I don't have to use "high power" rounds. I fixed the weapon and now it shoots anything I put in it. If your interested just watch the followup video linked at the end of this video. Thanks for your comment.
Own one, Love it!!!!!!
Мужик, лучше купи нормальный русский карабин "Сайга", и больше горя не знай ✌😉
Barnys got a gun
I have the Rock Island VR80 - AR12. I can't say anything bad about it.
Sights are backwards they fold to the rear
Every time I shot the sight flipped back and down I'm gonna turn the sights around like this guy did see if it remedy that
Then you need to buy some quality spring loaded flip up sights. I didn't mess with the factory sights I bought new sights and they work the way they are supposed to.
Needs high brass 2 3/4 in loads or 3in shells to function properly
Leav the bolt open for about 30 days, and it will run fine with the small brass.
That will relax the spring.
Cool man I hope you are right I'm gonna leave the bolt open when stored
А почему именно Токарев? Что американские названия не могли придумать?
This can't really be American! Mwahahaha 😂
Russian American here SUB! 😂
thanks for stopping by.
Lovely cat
Вообще, это похоже на попытку сделать гладкую Сайгу на основе М16 - полный бред. Процетируя персонажа-инопланетянина из фантастического фильма "Враг мой", роль которого исполнил Луис Госсет Мл. : " Не прочно!". Или MG.34 под гладкоствол переделали (Джордж Лукас и Кейтлин Кеннеди оторвали бы с руками).
🤣
Я всё ждал, когда он стрельнёт себе в ногу или отстрелит своей жене пальцы на ступне)))
you have a long wait.
That's what happens when you don't read instructions
The mag release is California standard🤣🤣🤣
Read the book before you tear into the bolt/ ejector
The manual doesn't tell you much.
а при чем тут Токарев?
Not cycling has me NOT inerested in getting one!
Detachable mag shotguns are dumb anyway. An M4 clone will school this thing.
Ay Dios .. que peligro ! Donde yo vivo a este no lo dejan usar ni una resortera...
The comments you made in you video at 35:04 in your video about the high spots is a elusive claim that is non factual the fact of the matter is that you improperly ran this shotgun and may have caused damage by continuously operating it with improper ammunition and not breaking it in properly do not blame the manufacture for misuse. And further more you need extended training on firearms safety you never showed clear nor pointed the firearm in a safe direction after operation too cycle or show a clear chamber and flagged (that's when you point the firearm at the camera person before making sure it was empty a couple of times) the CAMERA PERSON which believe are YOU TUBE VIOLATION'S !
No step on snake
Most semiauto shotguns are not reliable, even with high brass…get a moss berg or beretta
Actually this one turned out to be very reliable after I fixed it. You might enjoy the followup video.
My VR 80 runs fine with anything I put in it.
I have two bullpups that run fantastic. I also have a JTS AK 12 that never fails. And i sold my mossberg persuader to get it.
See, it needed to be tweaked. The factory should have done it… semi auto gas guns are pretty reliable, but never seen a semiauto mag fed shotgun run “flawless”
Mine do run great after the break in. And yes they needed breaking in. You make it sound like that's a major flaw. For me it was nothing to break them in. I found the ammo they like right off the bat. And it doesn't matter the brand of ammo as long as you don't go below a certain fps. Who said flawless? I did say never fails and so far it hasn't since the break in.
Коробку пока смотрел видео смотреть перехотел. Ну зачем 2 часа показывать котобку, а для того чтобы поиздеваться над теми кто тебе ставит лайки и поддерживает твой канал!
Спасибо за вашу поддержку.
@@ObservantSeedsower Да я вас всегда поддерживаю, но и вы нас тоже меньше мучайте.
Look up the tokarev pistol.... relic
Good weapon but the demonstrator need more practice, you don't know how to use your weapon.
You have to appreciate slave labor keeping prices cheap
You can tell it’s Mattel….It’s swell!
Need Hight brass.
These shotguns will not function on low brass ! I have a Typhoon F12 that operates perfect and has never ftf or fte.
Токляев 😀
Still EVERY BLACK MAN NEEDS THIS 😊
To much talking. Just unbox it.
Tokarev - dendrofecalis
use 3 inch it works better
Кто такой токляев?
The ammo is too weak