TRUSS DOWN, KWARTENG OUT
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2022
- Join Alastair and Rory for an emergency bonus podcast after the news that Kwasi Kwarteng has been sacked as Chancellor. Facing the lowest ever approval ratings for a British PM, is it over already for the Truss premiership?
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You boys are going to have a lot of special editions coming up!
Rory - your apology concerning ADHD has made me respect you so much. Thank you. Also thanks for all the work you and Alistair are doing. I really appreciate it.
Same here, I made some comments upon this on their previous video and was very pleased to see him acknowledge them and apologise for any offence caused.
Jesus, were you really offended? How sweet life must be in your world where there is room for such a thing. His apology has made me respect his spine much, much less.
@@sonicwingnutWars raging and you had time to be offended? How do you get up in the morning?
@@FRM101 you sound more offended than anyone else here, mainly due to your own pathetic false equivalence.
"Dear oh dear!"
The havoc these clowns have caused the is only over matched by the sheer, languid arrogance displayed by Truss, Kwarteng and Mogg throughout. She'll be gone in weeks
Every podcast is becoming an emergency one haha. A bad sign of the times. Great work chaps as always!
Thank you for an attempt to explain this ongoing chaos. Your podcast keeps this "citizen of nowhere " sane-ish.
Props to Rory for apologising for using ADHD in a wrong way.
Have we got to the point where we can measure the remainder of the PM's premiership in vegetables or, dare one say, ice cubes, yet?
I've just had a couple or three of wine and I'm struggling to come up with a comparison to a melting ice cube and I cannot come up with a comparable example of less than a melting ice cube. Can someone help me
@@trevintheshed6707 how about something like frying an egg? A deflating balloon?
Left out milk?
Yesssss!!! Was waiting for this
Love this boys, keep up the good work
Just remember what hunt did to the NHS.
Rory, there can be NO evaluation of Austerity without a clear understanding of what the Austerity is for; millions of people in the center understand the need to balance budgets and tighten our belts in the face of global economic headwinds. However, if Austerity is the result of TBTF bankers crashing the financial system requiring politicians to use the public purse to keep Zombie private enterprises afloat (2008.9), and/or Austerity is required to balance the books for regressive, unfunded, tax cuts (last week) then it is WRONG. Austerity is not ideologically right or wrong in absolute terms; Austerity's justification is entirely context dependent and relative.
Hunt actually had pledged to *cut* corporation tax to 15% (from 19%) during his short 2022 leadership campaign - now we're going to see him raising it to 25%
Smells fishy. Although hopefully he's learnt. Doubt it tho.
He’s nothing but a glory hunter he nearly ruined the NHS now he’s got a second chance to ruin peoples lives,get ready for huge cuts in everything the working class needs.Pensioners can forget the triple lock pension rise
We need a G.E not a Regime change
Austerity in 2010 was totally not needed, the economy was screaming out for investment. All countries were in the same position after the 2008 crash. It was the perfect time to invest. So much money gone down the toilet since. Brexit? Lunacy!
Are you aware that the Brexit-damage to date amounts to gbp 350 Million PER DAY (!)
Beth Rigby of Sky and umm, sorry, can't remember name, fella from Channel 4, were flabbergasted when she just walked out without asking them for their question each. That was pretty pathetic.
In my view, the problem that Brexit is causing for the MPs in power isn't that the country is struggling with trade or that the pound has been steadily declining for several years or that the parties are split down Brexit lines, the problem is that the population were sold a false vision.
The rhetoric pre-referendum was that voting leave would mean we left the EU, no more economic migrants, it will be done quickly and easily, we will get the better of the deal because we're so important and ultimately we can have our cake and eat it.
The reality is that we didn't immediately leave the EU, it took several years, those negotiations weren't easy and they definitely weren't quick. It also became apparent that people voted leave for many varying reasons and with varying expectations, some wanted to maintain free trade relations, others wanted complete separation, nobody on the leave side had even mentioned Ireland.
So far there has been no cake and we are noticeably worse off because of Brexit, but - and this is the problem for MPs - very few people who voted leave are accepting that they have played a part in the current situation, and I can't honestly blame them. Those in power are constantly passing the blame to other things, Covid is a big issue but doesn't account for all of our problems, the war in Ukraine is a massive contributor to inflation, but there's obviously a link between Russia pushing for Brexit and trying to cause a rift in Europe before attempting to take advantage of the situation. Even the reduction of European migration hasn't solved anything because the country needs immigrants, they're what our economy is based on and so if we can't get them from Europe we will look elsewhere, the MPs know this but the leave voters were lied to.
Ultimately, people were told that voting leave would make their lives better and their lives have only become worse, but MPs in power have refused to course correct resulting in the public getting increasingly frustrated increasingly quickly.
What do you think about the PM still not ringing the FMs of Wales and Scotland?
Boris is an awful public speaker. Have you read his awful book on Churchill? Where does he get his undeserved reputation from? Lack of judgement in the public arena. People seem willing to be conned.
America says Hello.... We have, obviously, a similar situation with Trump....
Thanks for the special edition - I was waiting for one last night!! Do read Johnathan Freedman's great article in Friday's Guardian - this is all Brexit fall out! Oh & Rory, you did warn us that Truss gets an idea in her head, sticks to it & wont budge even if everyone is telling her it wont work. You did say she just doesn't listen. Those flaws have cost the country BIG time.
What part has the right wing think tank the Institute of Economic Affairs played in this disastrous experiment with its neoliberal ‘Tory revolution’.
No reason to keep Truss when Hunt will be in charge.
Someone needs to point out to the Tories that the periods of high growth in the history of capitalism are period of high taxation. Tackle the scourge of inequality and you spark growth. Give the mass of people more resources and you spark growth.
On Johnsons speech I recall Geoff Boycott the cricketer at an after dinner speech who started by asking if everyone could hear him. A man at the front said " I can - but I will gladly swap with someone at the back who can't ! "
She wanted to start with a bang.
And it was indeed a bang.
Kwasi's plane did 3 U-turns coming in to land at Heathrow!
It takes a particular calibre of politician to promote, bring about and celebrate Britains appalling departure from the European Union despite all the evidence that it would be universally harmful. This is what happens when those politicians need to do something sensible. They are totally incapable and even those who were initially opposed to it were willing to go along with it for the sake of their own careers, demonstrating their lack of integrity and willingness to throw the country under the bus.
Everything that has happened since 2016 has appalled me. None of it has surprised me.
Best one so far....had to watch it again
Team Lettuce
This is like Watford football club.
Gentleman can you get Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey on please.Rory for PM,Alastair for Comms and find jobs for Eddie and Mick in national governance please
That would be amazing!
How interesting that you both agreed that the more successful PMs had been leaders of the Opposition. This thought occurred to me too when Theresa May started to have issues with her own MPs. Being Leader of the Opposition gives the chance to get the measure of your MPs and create a solid support group. And if the leader can't do this then they are got rid of as in IDS.
My enduring image of Truss was her speech extolling the virtues of British cheese ! fast forward to her leadership candidacy I remember talking to friends saying if this is the best the Tories can come up with !! we are F****d
Politics is in the state it is now because of austerity!
Didn't Hunt in his last leadership bid propose batshit Ester McVeigh as his running mate?
As a Brit/Dane living in Copenhagen trying to follow the current Danish election, I`m constantly distracted by the farce going on in London. My question to you both, who are the economic advisors advising Truss? Interesting fact from the Danish election - 46% of the electorate will vote for another party than the previous election. Brilliant podcast by the way.
Hi - you may not know that the most senior advisor to the chancellor was fired immediately this duo of duds came into power. And as Rory said before she became PM, when liz gets an idea in her head she just won’t budge, however illogical & she just doesn’t listen to advise.
Cannot understand why Hunt accepted. It's a poisoned chalice under Truss. Toxic is an understatement. How disgracefully amateurish.
He likes power.
A slippery character much like Gove, now in position at the back of the encumbent. Note: newsreaders might be rehearsing his surname in order not to make a mistake.
Excellent, thank you...
a govermant unable to get its mandate through parliament with an eighty seat majority that cannot sack the primeminister , in effect no governmant for two years unless they let truss and the nazis sit on there own,, and let the chancellor run the country, anything could happen, but investors will run for the hills the pound will fall intrest rates will rise and people will get angry
This is magic
How can we expect the markets to calm down when Michael Fabricant has gone so quiet? Another disastrous error by Truss not to offer him the Chancellorship! Send for Lichfield's finest!!
This podcast has basically become my source of news and useful debate for UK politics. The media-sphere is just *awful* these days. Journos who want to appear to be challenging don't ask actual *hard* questions, they just ask confrontational ones, and journos who want their guest back don't really challenge at all, and NONE of them bother to have facts on hand or a grasp on their brief anymore.
I mean I suppose in the case of the latter that doesn't matter: the politicians don't have a grasp on their briefs either, just a grasp on their message.
In this regard it reminds me very much of the New Labour years. The difference is that you did get the sense the newlab policitians DID have a grasp on their brief but were so terrified of going off message they didn't dare talk *about* anything. This made them all seem disengenuous, which eroded trust in politics, and egged on the Paxman-style aggressive-not-clever questioning approach, which eroded trust in journalism.
These days it's all descended to the point where you can't trust any of it, the media have forgotten how to do their job, and the politicians don't even *try* to grasp their brief anymore because it isn't necessary: just go on the media, tell your narrative and stick to it. Impenetrable, unchallengeable.
So it's ironic that this podcast is such an amazing source of useful anaylsis, given that one of the hosts has been a significant factor driven the entire machine to this point (quite inadvertently I know, I know Alaistair wouldn't have *planned* it to work out this way. But still).
I thought I'd seen and heard everything!!! But Truss is like a rudderless ship with no compass who can't find a safe port .why o why don't you two originate your own party ? And call it the common sense party or is that asking to much ? Haha keep up the good work boys i enjoy your show.many thanks😁
Truss is over, it is now when and how soon
" I have acted decisively to ensure economic stability " Mary Mary quite contrary Truss is totally not funny when she tries ( a la cheese ) but his absolutely hilarious when she' s tryng to be serious ! We now have Truss as PM on Sunaks policies - like a 100m drug cheat sprinter she should have her leadership confiscated and sunak should get the medal. And the reason she chose Hunt is because he is finished and therefore unlike sunak or Javid he is no threat even to such a lame duck PM.
Another good podcast guys 👍
While Lizzy was making her less than 8 minute speech, my thoughts, straight away, turned to you guys in HELP! Mode. I knew I could rely on you for a little balm.
How can these guys only have 7k subscribers when we are in one of the most fascinating and entertaining periods of politics ever?
Good re-capping, Rory 👍🏽
The origins of the fights in the party now, and the origins of this ideological nonsense is Brexit- which turned the Tories from what it was to essentially an English Nationalist party. Forget one nationism. It is a party trying to realize what Brexit was for them ( but not for the voters) but Singapore on Thames. Brexit was a reaction to austerity but for those who chased the dream at the top it was about cutting free from any restrictions. This and the English nationalism ( and Truss’ comments about Nicola Sturgeon underlined this) is such a narrow niche of the YK that they are bound to fail.
I would wager that the acceleration of hyperbole has something to do with the fact that life, for the vast majority of us, just keeps getting harder, more expensive, and stuff just doesn't work in the way it used to anymore. People can put up with a lot when they can go about their lives; pay their bills and send their kids to school with food in their bellies, once you mess with that, even politically apathetic people start to want answers and accountability. Not to mention that the new generation coming in to replace the boomers, are very aware that the "work hard/good things will happen" mantra is hollow, that there is no hope of growth in a society with the current levels of inequality. Of course there is always opportunity and growth for the ones that already have everything, and they keep rubbing our faces in it, for crying out loud. People want change, actual change, effective change. The state is all of us, all 67 million of us, how can the advocates for a "small state" even expect to be taken seriously? Talk about not reading the room.
Excellent listening!
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The Tories are a joke.
Sooooo Supermac was ohh so right "Events dear boy Events"! AND is she an event..Poor girl looked like a lost soul yesterday. Really is time for an election... sadly.
All that is wrong in English politics (not British politics) is summed up by the fact that the podcast is presented by Roary Stewart while Borris Johnson and Liz Truss have been PM
19:20 Don't be that guy. Better no apologies than all apologies. At this rate you're in danger of blending into the malaise of network talking heads.
Over promising and under delivering seem to be the politics of the day....
Thanks for the apology Rory and your comments on the spectrum Alistair
Wait have they done a gig in the north east or is it the forever forgotten region? For god sake Allister TB was my MP yet I cant see you or Rory!? Shame..
Serious question Alastair, super serious...
Burnley or Swans, who will win?
I think a sweepstake on the date of the 'Prime Minister sacked emergency podcast' might not be a bad idea...... if Labour don't get in after this fiasco then god help them!
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Please do a full podcast with Darling and Osborne on austerity. Was it a political choice? Has it been vindicated after Truss disaster.
nobody needs to hear from osborne....ever again...
@@kevinwillis6707 you can't erase history and these two people changed the world
@@mrsamuelwatson12 LOL behave yourself!
Can we have count binface on the show?
first
In the long run wouldn't a general election be better for the Tories? They could leave all this mess to Labour to clean up while shouting loudly about how much better they would do, then in five years get voted back in.