Trump Assassination Attempt: What Happens Next?
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Will the Trump rally shooting change the course of the US election? Are we entering an era of further political violence and polarisation? What goes on behind the scenes in the secret service when someone tries to assassinate a former president?
Join Rory and Alastair as they answer all this and more in an emergency episode of The Rest Is Politics.
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Lately I’ve felt a new appreciation for the fact that we were able to have a peaceful, non-violent election and immediate handover of power here in the UK.
@@scargmedia1861 absolutely agreed. It was text book.
Do you not realise that Jo Cox was murdered (assassinated) by a crazy far right supporter just two election cycles before this one? It was just 2016 after she won her seat in 2015 when that happened. The push of culture wars and inflammatory rhetoric is extremely prevalent in the UK. If you forget these types of events in your own cultural sphere than they risk repeating. RIP Jo Cox.
@@MrPoepopeThat was 9 years ago and not related to any election.
That’s constitutional monarchy for you.
@@scottp2210 Oh the opposite can happen to those too
The best way to prevent this from escalating is for Trump and Biden to give a joint statement and press briefing standing in unity…
Can you imagine Trump allowing Biden to get a word in?
Trump's ego won't allow it.
45 will not
@@keithhigh7773a statement, not a press conference
@@Tom-qb1rj which part of "press briefing" did you not understand?
I was watching the coverage on Sky news, and they brought in a republican close to Trump who was saying Biden had "blood on his hands". Fuelling more hate after an incident like this is shameful.
Lol some people have no shame. To think that people have shame is too have too high a regard for many people.
8 years of defamation and whipping up hate against Trump and now you’re upset by how this “looks”
@@meadend9053 very hypocritical of you to say
@@meadend9053 Trump is the original hate monger.
@@meadend9053 He can dish it out but not take it?
Farage needs to look up the things Trump said about Paul Pelosi
What was said?
@@danlopez.3592 “We’ll stand up to crazy Nancy Pelosi, who ruined San Francisco - how’s her husband doing, anybody know?” Trump said to a raucous crowd of California Republicans at a state party convention. “And she’s against building a wall at our border, even though she has a wall around her house - which obviously didn’t do a very good job.”
@@danlopez.3592 When Paul was attacked with the hammer trump refused to condemn it at first and said it was a consequence of Nancy.
His close allies also refused to accept it was a MAGA nut but pushed rumours that the suspect was actually Paul's younger gay lover
@@ChickenNugNugz2 but what was said about paul pelosi? The original commenter said that Trump said something about him. I thought he actually said that it was a horrible thing or something like that. Could be wrong
@@danlopez.3592 It was implied that the attacker was Pelosi's gay lover as well.
AC is right about the BBC giving Farage an annual pass to broadcast on its channel. Why doesn’t anyone ask the question? It’s palpably wrong.
He gets likes, comments and shares. Media (including the news) is all about getting as many people talking as possible. Content is irrelevant.
Unfortunately.
He’s just won seats and came third in votes in the election, and is a friend of Trump. I don’t like what he says either, but he has significant support. do you or ac really think it would be a good idea for the national broadcaster to freeze him out?
I am sick of seeing Farage on everything. Not to mention Tice or his girlfriend, the inbalance must surely break the rules (talking about you Channel 5 Jeremy Vibe)
AC characterisation of Farage's comment is the most dishonest thing I have ever heard.
@@matthewrobinson2172only cause the media gave him such free coverage whilst the lib Dems had to do stuff like bungee jumping to get attention
Rory is so much more balanced, in general, than Alistair. Of course this dreadful episode will have a positive effect on Trump’s election prospects. I wish it wouldn’t, but it almost definitely will. American politics has never been so toxic, not since the Civil War. America, I regret to say is going to hell in a hand basket.
That’s true, unfortunately he never pushes back against AC, so the overall effect is that he appears to condone some of Alastairs more partisan moments. It’s a shame because it makes the podcast look less objective.
America has always had threats the Antebellum, Red Scare, Civil Rights, Anti War movement.
@@sortedm more partisan ? Dodgy dossier has only one mode that's defend the left irrespective of the Truth. Always has always will
The US is two countries that are still trying to convince itself it's one. The longer they try and keep these two together, the worse this'll get.
My jaw dropped when Alastair (@10:02) suggests Trump's fist pump started as a straight arm salute (sig heil). How are we supposed to take that kind of analysis serious?
Luckily Trump is in favour of relaxed firearm legislation.
relax the speech laws too, and yet still able to diffuse the situation
@@tobanhoffmann8347 diffuse the situation?
@@tobanhoffmann8347 lol what?
@@nicksmith1415 yes diffuse the situation, for example a lot of people are just saying silly things hoping someone will listen to them and do silly things. People ca either try to go intellectually limp so the explanations need to be spoon fed to them or they can make the required effort to engage with the concepts , basically all the dumb tricks are being exposed for everyone to see
@@tobanhoffmann8347 Trump isn't in favour of relaxed speech laws. Republicans only want to keep speech free for themselves, not people who disagree with them.
AC is so brazen, “straight arm salute”, did he seriously just say that!?
Listen to Rory, Alistair. You’ll have to hold off portraying trump as hitler for a few days. Think you can manage that?
Yeah I think its because trump is well known for being racist? Or being associated with racist groups lik ethe proud boys - he commanded them to "stand by" on live TV - I saw it sadly I was not surprised, but I was disappointed. So AC was reminded of the salute when he got up just because its so well known that trump is racist. Not that he was actually going to do it - just that he was reminded of it
@@1daves I mean - beer hall putsch? There are parallels, very scary stuff.
Saying that Trump went into a straight arm salute is absolutely uncalled for. The man just narrowly survived a gunshot. I'm a long time viewer and will continue to be passionate about this channel, but suggesting that Trump went into a nazi salute is absolutely over the top.
Campbell full of bullshit and lies so why are you surprised.
Yeah but these guys are centrist, remember!
@@tommoody728 it's what we call normal and balanced in the uk
@@tommoody728are they?!? Seems pretty left of centre to me!
The Labour mouthpiece is disgusting. Donald Trump is just survived being shot -he is reacting in a way none of us can truly understand in that situation. My goodness the Labour mouthpiece has lost his mind!
I get the sense that Alastair doesn’t quite grasp how different US politics is to the UK. This won’t just slightly affect the campaigns, this is (politically) a masterstroke for Trump. This almost surely confirms a win for him I would think
If Biden steps down then Harris would need to be on the ticket to enable the $200m to be used in the campaign. There's no way a new candidate can win without that War Chest after yesterday's events.
It would be odd if she continues to be the VP. So she has to be the main candidate
@@ravindra7791she can though, and there is no term limit as well
@@JZTechEngineering But she's deeply unlikeable. She is not a pleasant or serious person and would lose an election against just about anyone. Cackling like a mad witch doesn't work against the likes of Putin.
Biden recently stated this, but it's categorically false. In actuality, he would retain full control over the funds. Biden could legally transfer the funds to the DNC, support a new nominee through a super PAC, distribute funds to multiple campaigns of his choosing (within legal limits), redirect them to charitable causes, or even refund donors.
I live outside Boston, MA now but I grew up in Butler and I still have family there. The last day and a half has been utterly surreal. I have been watching the pundits, the news, the predictable partisan dissections and at the same time I am painfully aware of the trauma that members of my hometown are experiencing at this moment. Yes Butler is very much Trump country but the entire community, even those who would never attend a Trump rally or vote for him, are in a state of shock right now. The town I grew up in will from hereon be associated with the attempted assassination of one of the most divisive, and I daresay notorious presidents in US history. My god even hearing you mention the Butler Farm Show (a yearly summer fair with carnival and farm animal exhibitions) on this podcast is simply bizarre. I can’t stand Trump but I am impressed at his ability to turn a near-assassination into the photo op of the year. Damn it, I am afraid this may have clinched a win for Trump in November.
When you fuel culture wars, conspiracy theories, mistrust etc, you bring the craziest out
You encourage this when the far-left is allowed to fuel hatred and defend aggressive confrontations against Conservatives!
Who benefits from this?
Fox News last decade
@@raquetdude Clinton, russiagate 4 years of divisive propaganda. Trump was attacked as soon as he decided to stand! Trump retaliated in kind, which has lead to a broken divided society. To blame it on Fox News is delusional.
Lefty non gender ppl
Why were so many people complaining about the audio, it’s absolutely fine?
because you're not watching it live
Perhaps you've got "Stable Volume" activated in UA-cam settings, and they haven't.
AC really?! Hitler rhetoric is part of the problem really irresponsible.
Free speech
Trump's own running mate compared him to Hitler...
The volume was perfect , no idea why people were complaining
Kudos to Gary O'Donoghue at BBC for getting one of the most consequential witness interviews!
I heard the ginger guy and he keeps changing is story.
This podcast is really wonderful and I think you're both fulfilling a civic duty by developing the political understanding of listeners. But when I hear Alastair immediately alluding to Hitler, it worries me. There is no reason to believe that Trump was trying to feign a Nazi salute, and saying that he was really makes me question this podcast's credibility. Otherwise, I take Alastair's analysis as sound and professional -- but sometimes, it seems like the spin is produced unintentionally, probably after years of conditioning. I don't necessarily blame Alastair, but I think he should take a moment next time to consider his words more carefully, and maybe evaluate his analysis's objectivity.
I think Alistair was only voicing what many of us were thinking, it wouldnt be the first time Trumps done it
Have to say as someone that's been turned off politics since Brexit and Trumps first time round I couldn't face it anymore this channel has peaked my interest again and I'm thoroughly enjoying your calm insightful discourse. Many thanks.
Also... as if the democrats are ever that extreme. Christ, the hard right lumping of liberals and far left is bonkers.
Jim Crowe?
Not a fan of generalisations anymore now that it’s you being generalised ?
@@Jack10016The right have been vilifying and generalising “the left” for just as long and to a greater degree
they've used that for years as a political strategy and the US media has bought it.
That 10:02 comment on the straight arm salute is not unfortunate, but disgraceful.
An absolutely disgusting comment.
Why the fuck would he even say that. Tolerant left I guess
It is what happened though
@@iordanneDiogeneslucas It was a fist pump, not a Nazi salute. Stop defending the indefensible.
@@ljones4390 Trump has done it before and his support for the extreme right is well known
Rory is right, the USA is another universe to the UK. The only thing we have in common is our language. (just) everything else couldn't be more different.
It’s all very strange. Like America has become a kind of pressure cooker blowing steam
It very much depends on the place. You're talking about a geographical area that ranges from Dublin to Kiev.
Imagine that photo of Trump with fist raised, bloodied face and flag in the background set beside a photo of Biden standing with his mouth open looking blankly into space, with the slogan “Who would you rather have as a leader?”.
Neither…
You don't need to have the photo - floating voters will flock to Trump after last night. Its not even a debate.
@@arthunter92 Fair point!
The guy not convicted of sexual assault.....
@@danielh4032 "trial by fire" . he and criminals literally asked for this.
Give the Americans a couple of days and they will follow some other shining thing, welcome to America
As Macmillan said "Events, dear boy, events".
Farage is impossible - everything that happens to anyone is interpreted as underlining his own relevance; the sure sign of a man of no relevance at all.
Trump's the same as you've just described.
And a narcissist.
"Straight arm salute"? What is Campbell jibber-jabbering on about?
The Hitler salute is straight arm.
Pretty obvious
@@keithhigh7773 Erm... yes. Obviously.
@@alexmalex82 Like Campbell you think Trump made, or was about to make, a Nazi salute? Seriously? You actually believe that?
@@derekspitz9225no but it’s eerily similar feeling
I’m in the US. It just feels like a television event - just more madness to ignore as you try to get on with day to day survival .. everything is already so wild and out of control it’s not entirely shocking ..
I think for me the fact that the roof he was lying on wasn’t considered a weekpoint in security looks very incompetent for me
Very complacent
And suspicious!
I watched the Farage interview before watching this as it happens. Farage was talking about Brand because the interviewer moved the subject to attacks on him. And Brand joked that attackers should use more harmful substances than milkshakes but still has a job at the BBC somehow. He wasn't blaming her for the attack on Trump at all. You are completely and maliciously disingenuous and you're contributing to the untruths in the debate. Absolutely disgusting.
They’re both awful. Couple of bigots
I would be interested to hear Rory and Alastair's commentary on Robert Kennedy Jnr's candidacy given that he has allegedly been denied security service protection and especially given that his father (not mentioned in the list of public figures) and uncle were both assassinated. I don't necessarily agree with all his positions on issues such as Palestine for example but Alastair has previously discounted him as a nutter out of hand but in fact he appears to be a very viable candidate with very thoughtful and nuanced positions. Perhaps I'm missing something but given this extreme polarised and clearly dangerous American election surely independent candidates deserve some in depth discussion?
Can’t he pay for his own security, it’s not as if he’s really high profile.
My thought is the exact opposite, that this will now cement in Biden as the nominee.
Really why?
Do you think they can't get Biden out because he'll look guilty?
@@randomdaveUKabsolutely absurd to say Biden looks guilty
Dangerous nonsense
@@martinvickers7349 I want to know his reason. I can't think of any other reason. Biden needs to step away and nominate someone else. Of course he's not involved in any of this
@@martinvickers7349 unfortunately the trump campaign is built from the ground up on nonsense, and blaming biden for this attack is exactly in line with the narrative they have established
@@randomdaveUK Completely absurd. The point is, as the most normie politician in the US, sort of a leftover from the generation of 1970s and 1980s politicians that talked American down from the tumult of the 1960s, Biden is a steadying, calming influence. Basically everyone else yells.
So many comments against AC, you're clearly trolls. If you don't like TRIP, don't listen. Simples! Keep it up AC and RS!
So we are not allowed to criticise Mr. Campbell? Is he a holy cow or Jesus? There are many legitimate criticisms that people, including myself, have raised. I have raised them on other videos in the past. While Mr. Gilmore is capable of nuance and empathy, Mr. Campbell is certainly less capable in both dimensions. At the same time he is doing exactly that what led to such an explosive situation, he is repeating faleshoods, diminishing the humanity of his political opponents when he doesn’t like them and showing poor taste in the face of a tragedy (an innocent person died yesterday in case you missed that). I‘m truly sorry that our criticism of your dear friend gives you shivers so that you think it’s necessary to call us trolls. But Sir, as centre-left leaning individual, I see it my duty to criticise my side if they are in the wrong. And Mr. Campbell is so far in the wrong when it comes to right-wing populist of the UK and USA that it is shocking. Have a good day.
Ranty rant rant @@odeode4338
The Democrats should just focus on Project 2025 for a couple of months without mentioning trump
Mission impossible
Why is that when people on the right refer to Agenda 2030 or 2050 they are call Conspiracy Theorists despite reading directly from the documents…….but when the left talks about Project 2025 it’s a scary boogie man that MUST be focussed on?!?
The Heritage Foundation wrote up what THEY THINK a Trump administration should focus on should he win again……that doesn’t mean that Trump himself is actually on board with doing it and implementing it as policy.
I don't think focusing on a conspiracy theory is what the democrats need.
Fake news
@@curtisward1277 what exactly is fake about it?
It exists.
The Heritage Foundation has funded it and totally supports it.
There are over 100 people who have worked in the trump administration or organisation that have submitted articles or authored parts of Project 2025
Trump has voiced support for multiple of the key points of Project 2025.
The Heritage Foundation are paying for the RNC nomination event to nominate trump.
There are numerous speakers holding seminars at that RNC event specifically named Project 2025.
What exactly is fake?
AC has a cheek to talk about the will of the people.
Indeed. He is wilfully blind to his past.
@@sbwords or maybe he's learned from it - people do, especially as you get older
@@irishchick6315 any evidence he learned? I don’t see any. Just the usual bombastic bluster, over-hyped opinions and tribalism.
My jaw dropped when Alastair (@10:02) suggests Trump's fist pump began as a straight arm salute (sig heil). Does AC expect us to take such Alex Jones level 'analysis' serious?
AC- “I can’t be closer to my mic than I am without sort of you know basically trying to have a baby with it.” 😂 19:22
Alistair desperate to say Trump's gesture nearly looked like a nazi salute. Err, why would he do a nazi salute other than in your imagination? Perhaps not your finest moment Alistair... I don't like Trump either, but lying and distortion don't work when they are not credible. Try subtler.
“Former president Trump as Biden normally calls him”. I think his current preference is Vice President Trump
Biden called him Donald during his statement this morning.
Both the VP and Trump have one thing in common - Both see Biden as the only thing in their way to become the President 😂
Trump still thinks Obama is the President and that World War 2 will happen soon.
Biden would be a lot more electable with DT as his VP...
A very sad day for democracy and those personally affected by today’s events, totally, not acceptable in a democracy, but I can’t help thinking his rhetoric of hatred is partly responsible
What rhetoric of hatred? I have heard PLENTY of hatred agsinst him for 10 years. Utterly appalling how Trump has been treated.
We must be living in different realities because all I hear is day in and day hatred, insults, name calling of Donald Trump since 2016. I never heard any of this towards him before he announced he would be going in to politics, and as soon as he announced he would be running it’s been 9 years of daily insults, name calling, investigations, law suits, banning on social media.
The left have gone crazy in their incessant, non stop, relentless obsession of “getting” and “stopping” Trump.
How do you not see this?!? It’s bizarre.
He was President for 4 years. Who did he go after in court? Who did he try to throw in prison? Who did he try to bankrupt? Who did he try to keep off the campaign by keeping them in court leading up to the election? Who did he have banned from all social media platforms? What ex-presidents did he try to target for presidential acts? He didn’t do any of this…….but they’re doing it all to him!
@@lauras3554 the left have quite literally escalated rhetoric to its peak, they cannot escalate further using words. I thought "nazi" and "hitler" were the further rhetoric could go, but they managed to one up it, with "EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO DEMOCRACY". When you're ssaying the country will literally end, and freedom, and democracy will be brought to a final conclusion if your opponent wins, what exactly is the next step up from that? They going to say it's the end of human life on the planet? The end of the earth? End of the universe? That's comical, beyond the scope of human concern, the next step is stopping the person by any means necessary, the literal survival of the free world is at stake. This idea that Trump is to blame for pointing out that Biden has allowed 7 million illegal immigrants into the country, in the most egregious violation of american sovereignty in history, and pointing this out is such a horrible thing to do, that he caused someone to shoot him, is absurd. Since when do we blame the victim for the actions of the shooter, when the shooters ideological compatriots are saying the victim will be the end of the America?
I used to enjoy this podcast but AC suggesting that Trump gave a Nazi salute is outrageous and a blatant bias misrepresentation. Shameful. He should apologize.
This is the only channel on the internet on politics which is fair and decent!
Blessed these two men. Heavenly characters!
Will Trump now dial down on his aggressive and confrontational rhetoric after this experience? I don’t think so ….
"Today, Mr. President, we are all Republicans." - doesn't seem to be much of that spirit this time.
I had 4 children, a busy mum, was always giving out the wrong name. Many busy people have the same problem. Rory just did the same thing.
Where is the rest of politics US emergency broadcast that you mention? I don't see it on the TRIP US channel
It's on Spotify I know.
It's on Spotify.
I think the public would be better served by discourse about the facts rather than speculation, even though the public would prefer speculation over the facts.
2:29 oh my god that photo... you hear a bald eagle scream every time you see it XD
That photo will define a decade. I think it certainly defines the last 8 years.
A rare oops from Alistair "It's a bit early to say if it's had an election on the impact". Remember, Trump encouraged people to attend his rallies with guns.
He’s going the same way as Biden lol
@@schofield4836 Don't forget, when Trump was elected, he was the oldest president at the time of inauguration. Biden beat that, and if Trump wins, he'll take the record back.
They're both ancient.
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t I agree but I was making a joke about Alaister lol
Only one is senile
@@voodoochile333which one? 🤔
My partner says I'm deaf but can hear you both just fine.
In the US, once you have been a President, you are called "President" for the rest of your life. Some might use "former President" but either is correct.
No, that's BS.
@@mattruzh8470 Im afraid they are not wrong
It's not just the title of President. It's EVERY title. Mayor, Representative, Senator, Secretary.
He has the right to be called President but, unfortunately, calling Mr Trump 'President' plays into his hands sine he and some of his followers believe that he is the current President. Hence, I think its safer to call him 'former President'.
That's interesting - Emily Post states the precise opposite - that former President or Mr Trump is the correct form of address depending whether third person or direct address, the same logic extending to Mayors, Governors etc. Perhaps her advice has gone out of date? (I know she's an historic figure now, but I'm British so I'm used to a lot of etiquette forms not changing even over centuries!)
Trump has won, under fire he was calm, in control and showed great courage standing to address the crowd, asking for his shoes and generally not bothered about getting off as soon as possible. Remarkable demonstration of courage and instinct. A man that pesonafied leadership,
Alastair, even for you that was a pretty low blow and utterly uncalled for. I understand you don’t like people to the right of politics but to say Trump did an almost straight arm salute is totally wrong and is also part of the problem.
I would be really interested in a discussion between you both as to what you believe makes up ‘far right’ politics in today’s climate. I believe the use of that term is used far too often and loses its impact. I see this term being thrown at those with right of center views but that absolutely doesn’t deserve the banner of ‘right ring’. That is something far more serious.
I just turned it off when I heard that. What utter nonsense.
@@sootandstars He clearly did, and said 'fight. fight', fight'. Think if Obsma, or Biden, or Hilary Clinton had been in the same situation. Would they have done anything similar? No.
Trump literally said he'll be a dictator on day one. What is it exactly that is wrong with the analysis?
@@sootandstarsI did the same, mental
As for Campbell’s assertion that other political murders have led to unification, I seem to remember when Jo Cox was murdered a very loud condemnation of Brexit attitudes as one causal factor, coming from the left of UK politics.
Hardly surprising really
It took less than 10 minutes and you said he “almost made a straight arm salute.” I mean come on. That really is beneath you when someone has come within a few centimetres of losing their life on live TV. It’s also rubbish.
Remember that this is the guy who wanted "the source out" and threw Dr. Kelly to the wolves. What do you expect?
Then later on AC continues the rhetoric that democracy itself is under threat if Trump gets in. The very hysteria that ended up with the drama we saw on Saturday.
Wow! AC… you start this video discussing how inflammatory some of the reactions and comments with what happened in Pennsylvania and then when you discuss Trump getting up and punching the air? You add in “Dare I say it, it was almost a straight arm salute???”
AC is one of the most divisive figures in the media. Pure projection.
I honestly don’t think Campbell gets how hilarious it is when he espouses unity and standards in public life.
I think Drump is a fascist but that was an awful implication by AC.
@tolhumexy6706 he's not. He's a populist. Not the same thing any more than a liberal is a comminist.
@@tolhumexy6706I can only assume that you don't know what a fascist is...
The "fight fight fight" raised arm thing,. is probably the most scary part to me, because it's such a deeply rooted emotional response (especially as noted, at that moment Trump didn't really know what was going on). All he knows is he wants conflict and fighting. He wants to look like the fighter,.. and he wants everyone around him to be fighting. Because he thrives in the chaos of conflict. That's not the kind of America we should be striving for. (that kind of "strong armed facism everyone in conflict with each other, only the strong bullies win" kind of vibe). No thank you. Do not want.
Trump’s response was particularly alarming. He seemed crazed not strong. The follow up statement was quite sober thankfully. Biden as well as Trump should quit the race now.
@@maryconnor6173 I'm pretty sure the later statement wasn't written by Trump at all.
@@patrikfloding7985100%
Everyone should know by now that all Trump actually does is the rallies. Everything formal is written by his team, not him.
I take it you’re still an adolescent.
@@mick947just your type Mick ;)
It's universally understood that when you call something "democratic" you are praising it, and that when you call something "fascist" or "medieval" you are condemning it. This, despite a lack of any agreed-upon definition of any of the terms. Political discourse becomes a meaningless show of "I support good things. I oppose bad things."
10:02 almost a straight arm salute? You really lost the plot! Absolutely disgusting and vile
I like AC but that was a ridiculous comment
Well, he is a fascist. If he doesn't want such comparisons made, he could try not being a fascist.
There's that "civilsed political discourse" for you.
You’re surprised Campbell is vile? Most of us saw that in the 2000s. He is not a well man…
I agree, I'm totally disgusted by the comment. AC talks about the dangers of polarisation but he cannot put aside his utter hatred for Trump for even a second to give him the meagrest benefit of the doubt.
It's "too early to have an election on the impact." Good one, Alistair!😅
Wait wait what, go back Rory, what's the story with that protection officer?
"Events, dear boy. Events!"
the sound is perfectly ok
The fact that this ”incident” took place should have absolutely no bearing on who should be the next president of the United States!
Why did you put incident in quotations?
But the fact that Trump demonstrated he has some actual fortitude whereas Biden is obviously senile clearly should have an impact on who is the next President.
@@notalefty999
You do have a point, however, if America wishes to remain a democracy, then you must not vote for a convicted felon who is a Kremlin propaganda spouting propagandist & absolute LIAR!…….That’s Donald Trump!!
@@notalefty999yup, this.
Trump "I got shot in the head and act normal. He normally acts like he's been shot in the head."
@@notalefty999 chill out people in the UK wont vote - take your crazy politics elsewhere
I’m glad you were able to explain the emotion content of Trump saying fight, but you put too much strategizing spin on it. I think Trump was just saying what he was feeling to his audience and they responded how they were feeling. They chant USA, USA, which is saying we’re going come together to succeed. They chant it when someone suggests an optimistic plan for the country and they chant it when they’re under attack.
and both parties regularly say "fight", it's a euphemism for don't give up, keep working to win the election. Any time either side tries to paint the other in some kind of way, for saying "fight" to their supporters, it's unbelievably cringe. Everyone knew what "fight" meant in political context, until january 6th and it became an easy way to scapegoat Trump.
I've had a lot of days recently where I'm ashamed to be American. Ever since Trump came to politics it has devolved from passionate yet civil debates to hate-filled speeches and mudslinging. The sheer volume of vitriol that comes from him during his presidency has always put me on edge and made me more protective of my friends. He brings out the absolute worst in people through fear and intimidation. I'm also always ashamed to see him as president in foreign settings because the president doesn't just represent foreign policy he/she is a reflection of the American people.
To think that people in our ally countries view Americans through Trump's image makes me fear for our long-term image in the world. Please know that there are millions of Americans who see Trump for who he really is and desperately want to keep him away from the White House. Joe Biden may be old, but he has more compassion and empathy than anyone we've seen in the presidency in a long time. Not all Americans are like Trump. Please have faith and keep us in your prayers.
Stop this “both sides” nonsense. We see who promotes violent rhetoric everyday.
Dangerous days for us all
frightening - trump will reach out all over the world - even already saying he will unite the world. dictators never stay confined to their own country. I am so so sad for all the americans who just dont know any better and scared how this will impact teh rest of the world
Im pretty sure it was his father, who has same name, who made the 15$ donation,
nope it was another man - 67 yr old who has the same name who made the $15 donation
Source where it was confirmed that it was not the shooter that made the donation?
Are you trying to suggest it wasn’t an anti Trumper that tried to assassinate Trump, and was in fact a Republican Trump supporter?!?
@@pjpredhomme7699 or was his father the registered Republican?
Thank you, I love your unique friendly insights
Can't believe AC used the "good people on both sides" line
The sound is absolutely fine
Alistair Campbell hinting that Trump stood up and gave a Nazi salute is pretty shameful. He seems incapable of any objective opinion.
Gross
He was referring to the theatre of imagery and he wasn’t wrong: Trump used the image of the raised fist which is just as evocative and dare I say punchy
We're all incapable of "objective opinion", at least if words still mean anything. Perhaps you mean "based on fact" or "unbiased"?
TBH, when I saw the clip, I thought the same. Not because I was being nasty, but because - to me - it DID look rather like that
Trump is a Nazi
Enjoyed tonights podcast. Anthony, this is from a fellow New Yorker. This is my question. Does it matter, who the Democratic candidate is now? Which one of them can defeat Trump? At this stage would President Biden be resigning strictly to protect his reputation and not go down with a "Shakespearean Ego?" Should President Biden serve his term and just not run any longer or resign now? Thank you!
Rory, please don't address him as President trump. You should say the former president.
This is a bizarre interpretation of what happened. The endless attempts of Campbell to reframe and misrepresent what happened is nauseating. Rory knows exactly what Campbell is doing yet fails to call him out. This is the problem with the left - they change framing and language, it’s incredibly manipulative.
A country with more guns per capita than any other, more firing ranges per sq mile than any other.....and he missed a big fat bright orange target, from 150m, with an AR15. Jesus Christ how embarrassing. Terrible marksmanship
well... unless that was the point..
There’s something wrong with you. An innocent person was killed. Seek help for your perception of reality.
@@nickt2822 There's no way to guarantee a glance from 140m away. Or 2m away. So, no, there's no weird false flag conspiracy here.
@@francisaugistino701 oh dear. First time on the internet huh
DEI hire.
I keep trying to listen to this podcast, as it’s been recommended by several friends - but seriously?…. The almost adolescent political bias denudes it of its otherwise substantial intellectual heft. I’d advise listeners to check out UnHerd; whilst it may appear less heavyweight, and definitely leans more to the Right, they do at least aim at a less pretentious, more inquisitive pursuit of the truth.
Why the hell does Rory keep referring to him as "the President"? He was, and he might be in the future - but he sure as shit ain't at the moment.
Votes won't swing to Trump but Maga will get louder.
It’s already happened
Yesterday clinched it for Trump, and I'm not a Trump fan.
@@pnut3844able Why? Did being shot somehow make his polices more appealing?
@@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 it brought those on the fence over to his side. Look at Elon Musk. He was an RFK guy and now he's fully Trump
@@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802many people vote on vibes not policies. Election is over if Biden doesn't drop out, and probably even if someone replaces him.
6 years of Orange man literally Hitler is to blame for all this
Disgusting, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
Doesn't Trump do the same thing when he accuses Dems of being communists who steal elections?
@@FaceFcukyou clearly can’t read! 🙄
How many crayons have you eaten? Does your mummy know you are on the Internet?
right... but juliani asking for "trial by fire"... no.. no blame there right? efing clown.
The interesting thing was what the BBC cut out by 9:00am!
Awesome. Brilliant content. Spot on.
detest Trump but that photo is genius. Almost a copy of Iwo Jima
He. Didn't. Take. The. Photo...
@@EdwardLindon I think it was pretty clear, that even in the moment, Trump was aware of the photo opportunity
A critical issue may well be how Dr Jill Biden reacts to this news. So far, she has been playing a critical role in propping up her husband's candidacy.
Thanks for getting on it lads! 💪🏼strong Podcast game
Another great podcast!
Further, regarding Joe Brand she said they should have thrown acid.. I mean, come on guys Farage has a point!
I wonder if AC will see fault in himself for saying stuff like this when that eventually happens.
@@odeode4338 A very good point.
Jo Brand is a good comedian and writer but her comments are irrelevant.
@@lizroberts1569 Sorry, I totally disagree, everyone has to be held responsible for their actions and what they say.
The FBI issued the statement on the public record holding his registration with the republican party.
I think I recall discussion during the primaries that, in some states, only registered republicans could vote in the republican primary. Some voters may have registered purely to vote against him in those primaries, so it’s entirely plausible that the person identified as the shooter may have been one such person. I don’t think that we can use that registration as evidence of anything.
@@Major_Lag Can probably use the social media photo of him in a US flag T-shirt as evidence that he saw himself as a 'patriot', which to me sounds like rightwing.
@@Major_Lag that’s a very reasonable assumption.
What exactly are you implying? That he’s somehow a right winger?
@@troublesometruck8303yes. Duh
Alistair, Britain is not a proper democracy, because the people cannot vote for the head of state, also, the whips in parliament coerce MPs to toe the party line, by telling them that they will be deselected as a party MP if they don’t do, this, despite an MP’s constituent’s wanting their elected MP to vote for and voice their thoughts on issues, which may not be in line with the party view. So summing up, you should not say that Britain is a democratic country. It isn’t for those reasons, sadly.
There's no obligation for a democracy to have an elected head of state, especially one with limited power and largely ceremonial. Plenty of other democracies have similar head of state roles whether hereditary, appointed or elected by a convention or similar - Spain, Japan, Australia, Germany, Canada, Italy, Norway, New Zealand, Greece, the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, and others. Would you describe those countries as not being democracies?
Even if an MP is deselected or had the whip removed by their political party, there is nothing preventing that MP from running for re-election at the next general election as an independent or for another political party. Happens all the time, most recently Lee Anderson (from Conservative to Reform) and Jeremy Corbyn (from Labour to independent) as examples. The constituency's electorate still directly elect their representative to parliament.
So summing up, Britain is a democracy in that system's most accepted definition.
@@ajkgordon You say there is no obligation to have an elected head of state, so therefore you personally accept the status quo of an hereditary head of state, which is ok for you, but I and many millions of other Brits want a republic, and to be able to vote for an elected head of state as in France, the USA, Italy, Germany, Australia, India, Iceland, Finland, Republic of Ireland, Estonia, Austria. and some of these heads of republics take part in the politics of the country too.
Britain has an Over paid, Over rated, Over privileged useless hereditary head of state thrust onto the people, and in the job forever whether the people like this or not. THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY!!!
In respect to whips, it is for this reason parliament is UNDEMOCRATIC, simply because MPs of a party are compelled to vote as their party wants, and not as the people want. Yes they can go as independents, this is true for two or three rebels against their party, but only a few are successful such as Corbyn, Anderson etc.
Summing up, In a proper democracy the head of state is elected by the people, and there should be no whips of any political party, allowing for MPs to vote freely what their constituents want, and whatever party should accept this as democracy.
I do not agree with what you have written, but you are free to accept this status quo as democracy if you wish to, just as I am free to want a truly democratic country as I have stated. Having said this. I doubt very much that Britain will ever change this undemocratic system in my lifetime, unless there is a revolt, against the status quo foisted upon the people, but who have a right to decide upon. I dearly live in hope.
You say there is no obligation to have an elected head of state, so you personally accept the status quo of an hereditary head of state then, when I and many millions of Brits want a republic and to be able to vote for an elected head of state as France, the USA, Germany, Australia, India, Iceland, Finland, Republic of Ireland, Estonia, Austria. and some of these heads of republics take part in the politics of the country.
Britain has an Over paid, Over rated, Over privileged useless hereditary head of state thrust onto the people, and in the job forever whether the people like this or not. THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!
There are only a few independent MPs in parliament, and good luck to Anderson and Corbyn, true democrats. The rest follow party line and disregard the people’s voices. So you call this a democracy ? I for one totally disagree with you, but it’s your right to accept this status quo, as it is my right to rebel against the establishment. Hopefully the people will wake up, but I very much doubt I will see a change in my lifetime sadly.
@@redrebel103 So you're a republican. That's a perfectly valid political system but doesn't actually mean it is any more democratic than any other. In fact many republics are most definitely not democratic, such as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea).
Just FYI, Australians don't elect their head of state (constitutional monarchy), nor do Germans (federal convention). In fact some in Australia refer to its political system as a "crowned republic".
Again, while you prefer a directly elected head of state, it doesn't make states less democratic if they don't have one. Using that argument isn't a good argument for a republic.
@@redrebel103 Well, the party political system is a grouping of similarly-minded politicians, the vast majority of whom are not elected serving only a small minority who are. But again, being a republic doesn't solve that if you feel the party political system is anti-democratic. Even the most democratic republics have political parties. Some, like the US, where they are so dominant, that it's almost purely a two-party system with almost no independent representation outside of them.
The UK is as democratic as any other country modelled on the western liberal model. Some bits are less democratic, some more. Some less representative, some more. Each has its drawbacks. If you want to make an argument for republicanism, then being more democratic ain't it.
Thank you for being there on Sunday!
I was disappointed at the political points scoring by some opportunists. The accusations by some Republicans this was caused by the rhetoric of the other team, the hypocrasy being their own refusal to accept an election result leading to the deaths of 9 people during the Capitol attack. All these events are deplorable and both sides could do with lowering the temperature. But I doubt many of us will hold our breath on that one.
You've confused 9 people with no people. 🤣
The rhetoric about Trump has been appalling for years...media and government. I blame it
Interesting, calling him the biggest threat to democracy and someone that needs to be prevented at all costs, and that he need to be put in the bullseye are all non-problematic statements in your opinion. How did my political home become so stupid over the past 10 years?
You are a liar. There was only ONE death during the Jan 6 capital protests. And that person was Ashli Babbitt, a Trump supporter, killed by Capital Police.
A police officer that was on duty on Jan 6 died a couple of days later due to a heart attack, but he was not killed by anyone and he didn’t die on January 6th.
@@lauras3554 completely agree, it's on all sides. And for sure, Trump has a lot of successes that the left media either ignore or try to dismantle, essentially ousting themselves in the process. I'm following from the UK, and it is eye-opening watching the same stories on Fox and NBC.
The wild theories will be coming thick and fast.
The supercilious smugness these guys convey. They clearly hold themselves to be on the most virtuous moral, reasonable and jolly superior intellectual high ground, while conveying their disdain and distaste for Trump and 'those people'.
Implicit of course is that no 'decent and moral' upstanding citizens could possibly disagree with them.
Kinda epitomises the self-affirming echo bubble of the Dems in the US, and the woke Tories in the UK who have brought that party to its current sad state.
The irony of Alistair Campbell castigating Trump for telling lies when he perpetuated the greatest political lie of all time is quite something. You have some gall pal, you really do.
Wag the Dog anyone?
Trump knows the media. He plays the victim game perhaps better than anyone
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737Farage does the same. It's part of the game
He already has the election in his pocket.
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737 all fascists do that until they have seized all power
@hugogreen13 considering he is guaranteed to win, this post is the usual misdirection of the left.
@@rinkydinkfretboard8737 he is guaranteed to win. What would he gain compared to what he would lose if found out?
Imagine implying trump was gonna throw a nazi salute
It is not and should not be about a candidate. It is about self-rule, it is about policies, it is about future directions. People who make their livings speaking into cameras attribute far far too much importance to president Biden's shortcomings in speaking into a camera.
I don't doubt that Biden is still on the ball behind the scenes, but his gaffes have become too frequent now, it's embarrassing, and public speaking is an important part of being a leader. He often appears very tired and old, and the verbal slips hammer that impression home.
The two sides of this “debate” here in the U.S. are democracy and fascism. There is no center between the two.
You are part of the problem. I know it's hard but try to think instead of regurgitating left media propaganda.
Hey look I found the incitement