Hunt U-turn as Truss goes missing
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2022
- As a divided Conservative Party tries desperately to work out how to replace Liz Truss, Rory and Alastair discuss the likely moves over the coming days and weeks in Westminster. Will the Conservatives find a way to avoid another membership vote to determine the next PM? Plus Biden, Japan, and debt forgiveness.
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Liz Truss is too painful to watch or listen to anymore. She should just resign.
It's amazing that she could sit in Parliament with that smile on her mug. The very important thing that she had been doing must have been taping her apology to the voters.
Didn't take long did it :)
The one silver lining of all this political chaos is getting the extra episodes of The Rest Is Politics
If only turds could have silver linings!
And how much did we pay for an ineffectual test & trace system that brought no significant benefits and was run by a chum of the PM?
Apparently the mini budget was right, it's just the 'economic conditions' that were wrong. Amazing. 😂
I just love the fact that Mordaunt, as official representative of the government and Conservative party had to stand up in Parliament and say "I can confirm the Prime Minister is not hiding under a desk"
They've entirely lost the plot now
And then gave a pause so that the Labour MPS could have a good laugh at that statement? I see that as her stabbing mad Lizz in the back 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've started listening to you two chit-chat since the first episode on iTunes. Both perspectives are very good to us, as I'm Hongkongese. Especially these past few weeks, I've tried to share the UA-cam version with my friends. Please keeps on.
...the gift that keeps on giving, the podcast not Truss btw
As a working class grammar school kid in the 70s, I played rugby against Roundhay School. To us it seemed like a palace. Even when it became a comprehensive my old school was still thought of as the grammar school. Roundhay School was originally an independent school, became a grammar not long before I played against them, and only became a comprehensive shortly before Truss attended. It was not the struggling inner city comprehensive she would have us believe.
And meanwhile 25% of children in UK live in food poverty going to school hungry and having no lunch. This is the real crisis in our country. I am ashamed to live here!
And truss still hasn’t phoned the FMs of Wales and Scotland. Shocking.
“Let me be clear…” = “I’ve been prepped to trot out this, and you’re not getting anything else out of me…”
I click on these with the same alacrity with which you record them
Likewise!
The extraordinary thing is how devoid she is of the ability to ad lib. She reminds me a bit of Cameron who when making terrible decisions just kept using phrases like 'In Hindsight' 'I'm honest' 'I'm still committed to' whilst just not being up to the job.
Truss like Osborne and Cameron proved essentially a lightweight. So much of the old Etonian aristocracy was so diluted by buggery, communism and the fact Eton had the highest loss rate of any school, not only in WW1, WW2 but in Korea. So if Cameron's blood lines are any more real than Harold MacMillan, even by marriage ( to Devonshire) its terribly diluted
But we probably need to bring Fox and Gove back for a while to control Scotland
Re Japan: Nepotism is not seen as a bad thing in Japanese and Korean culture. To be honest, it's not that different in the UK where so many senior MPs come from similar backgrounds and all know each other. There may not be familiar connections but there are definite social connections.
Well done Jeremy Hunt as Acting PM. When he got the call, apparently he thought it was a hoax!
Good point from Rory.The Tories have wrecked the economy now and the legacy for Labour will limit their choices. But, Labour needs to adapt dynamically.Jonny Mercer needs to cross the floor to Labour, it's the simple solution for him.Truss's giggling at him was her immaturity and callousness, but also laughing at Mercer is also to laugh at all those who have done military service.Its a typical childish response form another Oxbridge educated dunce who has no wisdom or maturity. I hated Thatcher but would she have giggled at a man who has served the UK in a war.
Anyone who supports a prolonged war in Ukraine (like both parties and most people) and not a quick, negotiated compromise resolution then this is why the economy is wrecked. Truss screwed up but the economic damage is fleeting. The political damage is longer-lasting. Tories didn't wreck the economy. As Hunt pointed out yesterday, Labour don't disagree fundamentally with his core decisions.
How could the Scots want independence when we are governed so well from Westminster?
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Hahahahahahaha
"Investment Zones" are ridiculous. There are a very good reasons they were abandoned years ago.
Will compassionate tories spare Truss the ignominy of being thrashed at PMQs this Wednesday?
Imagine how different the country would be if it was currently under a Labour government. No continuous political instability, allowing government to think long term, not next week. A windfall tax on the gas companies war-profiteering, making what has always been a non-problem exactly that. The cessation of charity status for British private schools, meaning these elite businesses will start paying taxes which have been handpicked to help fund inadequately funded state schools. To assist small businesses on the high street, business rates would be abolished, instead with online retailers such as Amazon picking up the slack for once with the tax loopholes vanishing. Instead of trickle down economics, it would be trickle up.
A country to be proud of, and a government to get behind.
A Blair government would be good. But a modern neo-liberal Labour? No thanks. Why do you think the electorate rejected Labour last time around? Tories were only the best of a bad bunch, they didn't win because everyone was aligned with their core ideology. Tories and Labour - both are rotten to the core and don't serve the people.
@@jamessmith1652 ahhhhh a Tory bot. Starmer seeks to nationalise the railways...what's 'nEo-LiBRal' about that
Thank you.
Rory, You better watch out - it looks like Alistair may be looking for a replacement!
The next special episode, Truss is out..
I don't usually swear but there is only one word for these recent weeks of gross government incompetence: shitshow.
Or as we say in Scotland: shiteshow 🤣
We are back to where we were before but poorer and in further debt.
Why are people not talking about why austerity rather than windfall taxes.
Big up the newts.
2am gang
yeah this one's gonna have to wait until the morning :(
Can't Truss use the nuclear option and ask the King to dissolve Parliament thus forcing a GE? She is certainly mad and bad enough to do that (M.A.D.).
gawld dawlg thanks for uploading so rapidly
I'm no Torry but I wish Rory would have won the leadership in 2019.
General election. Now.
Rory should have been made PM when he stood. All the damage we are suffering now would have been prevented by having a sane grownup in charge and I'm a left winger.
Shows who you get when the PM is selected by a (relatively) small group of party insiders. Next time, try democracy.
You guys should invite Gary Stevenson on to the podcast, I would be fascinated to you discuss his ideas about economics.
On Hunt and bankers bonusses - If its true the more money bankers get the more tax floods into the treasury why is that not true for nurses ? Why not, as a covid thank you, give nurses a bonus of 5 times their salary and take 45p in the pound tax off them ?
One may ask what hand has Liz got to play, but if the 1922 committee and the Tories come on too strong, anyone ever think she may blow the whole thing up and send the tory party and Britain into a crisis. If she tenders her resignation immediately, what's the next move for the Tories that won't have the general public screaming for their heads? They need her to remain in post notwithstanding who calls the shots but they do need her in that role as they plot a palatable next move. IMO
Slight correction Alistair, it was actually Arsenal that played Newcastle in the 1998 FA Cup Final, the season they done the double.
I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for Liz Truss - its starting to look a bit cruel. Hopefully they find a sensible way of putting her out of her misery before too long.
I watched Rory Stewart on CNN News and I hope he listens to what The Economist on the same programme said about austerity?
Labour will have to rejoin the Single Market and Customs Union asap to boost trade and hence revenue.
Quickest fix known to economics ...
Again Rory asks how do Labour increase spending? It's quite simple, invest in things that have solid fiscal multipliers! Tax breaks for the rich have crap fiscal returns but you know, social housing programs and mass investments in renewables have very solid ones. It's a typical Tory response that all spending is bad and doesn't provide a benefit to the economy.
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The economic figures coming out of America are actually pretty exceptional considering the global picture, 500k jobs report in July, 300k jobs report in August, u3 and u6 unemployment at, wage growth is up both month over month and for the year, whilst America may be by technical definitions in a recession, this is probably the best recession for working Americans they have seen ever
These "official" numbers really reflect Americans who've had to take on second jobs and the so-called wage growth is a result of that. Plus the inflation rate is probably double of what the our government is saying.
@@dirremoire saying so called wage growth doesn't mean the wage growth is any less, all the numbers are from the bureau of labour statistics monthly jobs reports
@@dirremoire if you think the BLS is just lying about CPI CPI figures then Idk what to tell you there, the wage growth is calculated as average hourly once which corrects for people working more hours etc, also second jobs don't effect unemployment so the figures I'm quoting really dont point towards uptakes in second jobs, it points to an impressively strong labour force, Mathew yglesias and Simon rosenberg both have some great articles on the current American labour market
Disgrace that the government can bail out bonds/gilt pension funds (quantitative easing (QA)) for the rich that were already paid for by (QA) (that is twice paid for by QA) and threaten to quit the triple lock for the poor pensioners. That really does deserve civil unrest of the peaceful kind.
The PM does not have to be the party leader. The Churchill doctrine shows that as Churchill became PM keeping Chamberlin as Party Leader on the back benches. The party showed he had enough support to for a government and petitioned the King who accepted that and asked him to form a government. So the party could do that with a freshly elected Rory in Mad Nads old seat.
With regards to 'debt forgivness' - if your a country and Bono or a member of the world bank turns up at your door, you know your in trouble then...
You're missing the point. Why should I pay any income tax if others can play the system by claiming nondom status, particularly if they are not, and having an unfair advantage. The point is it's wrong, not whether it will "only" raise a few billions. It is unfairness and politicians unwillingness to fix it which damns all MPs.
Tax the rich !
Hunt appears to be to Truss what Dominic Cummings was to Johnson at the beginning of his tenure. Therefore, Truss needs to be careful as she's showing that she's just not up to the job!
Ah. The Kitchen Cabinet. Campbell and Rory Stewart. Nothing compared with Christopher Hitchens and Martin Amiss, ' the last time' . I would certainly liked to view their after show, bar crawling and strip show visits. It would have been the best, post show finalle than the Nov 5, 1954 post cabinet booze up
Hi guys ! Given all the negativity around at the moment ,do you think you could conjure up a little bit of light and give us clue where the end of the tunnel might be ?
Rory Stewart please come back into politics. I would prefer a Labour government of course but if we have to have this Tory rubbish for the next 2 years (and a GE seems unlikely) Rory should take Mad Nads seat and shift her to the Lords. He can then be appointed tory leader and PM and at least we will have a grown up in charge until Labour inevitably take over in 2024.
What's the goss then both?
the lords of neo liberalism nothing between you, honest bright and insightfull, a natural coalition would be labour tory,, ok both have extremist wings but generly there similar, making politics a bit of a game in reality,, all the talk of polarisation is in fact in the general public and the press, you demonstrate so well nothings changing without an absolute crisis
Ever heard of full stops?
@@johncraske I enjoyed visualizing the guy turning blue whilst trying to spit it all out without breathing. We need passion in politics more than grammar pedantry IMHO (although my OCD is triggered by poor grammar, but that's a "me" problem). BTW, I don't agree with his perspective; we need passionate politicians who respect their political adversaries and engage in meaningful debate.
@@johncraske And capital letters.
@@johncraske EVER HAD A GENUINE THOUGHT
@@rishispewcack5745 Let's not overload the poor fellow...
A really interesting watch on UA-cam is by CLARA MATTEI called ( how Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism ) Well worth a listen. Really interesting about Austerity
I’m only here to down vote Jason Kingshott.
And listen to a commentary on the government slowly collapsing like a flan in a cupboard.
Channel 4 last night said elections to the 1922 committee are to finish today, thus rule changes cannot happen until Weds.