Entry Level Full Suspension Vs Mid-Range Full Suspension MTB | What’s The Difference?
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- We often talk about the latest expensive mountain bikes on GMBN and are often asked to feature cheaper, more entry-level bikes on the channel. So what do you get for your cash when going for entry level or a mid level bike? We teamed up with Polygon to show a few examples of what materials and components you can find on these types of bikes.
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Your entry level is my mid range
Right
Your bike budget is my mid range 😂
Such is the life of hobbys.
Your budget is my high end
That n9 at 2899 , better put 200 more and buy a mega imo
Entry at 2k, Mid range at 3k... gulp I'm definitely not living on the same planet 🥴
If you look at the spectrum of parts yea there are three levels for instance with SRAM NX GX XO1 I got a YT Jeffsy that came with NX you can go lower than this stuff but it will start to fall apart within a single season of riding and you will constantly be having issues I know my friend got a 500 dollar hardtail and it is falling apart
Buy second hand. Just bought a yeti sb66 for $1000
@@1CoLoRz2 where? 27.5?
@@oalbornoz Facebook marketplace. And nah 26. But im new to mtb so im fine with it for a starter bike.
Pricing on bikes has really gone in the toilet. When I was shopping a few years ago, you could get a Transition for $3k. Good GX or better components. Now days, that same bike costs more and comes with the NX garbage and you are supposed to feel good about it. Thanks a lot SRAM.
Next vid: 500 euro hardtail vs 1000 euro hardtail. That would be an interesting vid
the difference between hydraulic suspension and air suspension is that 500 imo
@@popeclementxi7303 you mean coil Vs air
All about cheap square taper bb vs external bb.
@@matthewbrealey2026 yes oops
Yeah pls
Is this the first time that Neil didnt use a High end bike??😂
This was obviously not his idea so he got second choice 😂😂😂
This Bike is very familiar at Indinesia and more good technology for the type of T series N series and Square one if you didn't know
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Cool to see polygon getting out there and sponsoring so much content this year. Certainly making some really accessible and beautifully painted bikes. Definitely has me looking at them a little more closely than in years past.
I purchased their dirt jumper and I’m pretty happy.
The way you said the prices was so strange, it almost seemed like you didn't want to say hundred or thousand. I have no idea why. Edit: didnt help that blake seemed to drop a digit in dollars making it sound like it was a 300 dollar bike
My thoughts as well, might have been part of the sponsorship deal with polygon.
Edit: they did say prices normally later on in the vid 🤷♀️
they spellled in american polygon :)))
Title should say sponsored by polygon !
@@matthewbourne659 And all the others by Nukeproof, Pole and Canyon Etc ETc.
John Croxford Others typically mention their sponsorships, though.
This sport is too expensive for anyone without a sponsorship.
so glad a friend of mine gets a new bike every year and he's willingly selling me his old ones haha
That’s lowkey heaven, NGL.
Does he want more new friends 😉🤣🤣🤣
Same as my friend it’s legendary
Nokia Games join the queue 🤣🤣🤣
Depends on your needs mate
I really like alloy / metal frames. I can't get around spending so much for a carbon frame and then live in the terror of cracking it. I'm not shy of running alpine trails with plenty of sharp pointy rocks. This summer my alloy frame got scratched pretty good and I'm fairly worried a carbon would have cracked and made me cry hard. For the scratches on alloy the solution is easy: by a ton of GMBN stickers and cover the scratches! Better than new! (Yes I've just got my stickers yesterday and will apply them ASAP).
Also Alu is a helluva lot more environmentally friendly.
Aren't most manufacturers doing life time warranties on carbon frames these days? Genuine question.
@@paghal11 u dont want to keep getting new frames tho. alu has the same warranty and is 100x stronger on drops
@@paghal11 nope. Snapped my specialised carbon frame in half. Got a Marin alpine trail xr now and staying with alloy
@@benphillips1149 I don't believe this is a true statement. Also seeing what dh put a carbon bike through I think I'll stick to carbon
Polygon bikes are definitely some of the best value bikes out there
Still cost a shit ton though
Marin are right there with them
@@Ski_3_p_o Marin does give you a ton of bike for your money but not quite as much as Polygon. I actually own a 2019 Marin Hawk Hill 3 myself!
I've got the N9 and it's a sweet bike for the money. Can't believe they did a review on these
@@nickkovalenko2891 more like, how did they get hold of them
High level hard tail or low level full sus??
I would rather have a really nice hardtail
incredibly tough choice. Suppose it comes down to where and how you intend to ride your bike. Just earlier this year I was in the same boat. For the same price, you will get better components. However, if you buy smart and get full sus that prioritized frame over components, you will then have a bike that you can upgrade over time as needed.
Rougher trails should probably go for full sus, smoother is hardtail
@@mojaverc1585 Wait till your knees are gone, you'll be saving hard for full sus!
computerbob06 I have an older mid level dual suspension and i would never get another hardtail but i would rather have a really nice dirt jumper than a crappy cross country dual suspension.
Hardtail for all round but if you only ride rough trails a full sus
Polygon is definitely onto something with their bike selections. Now if they can only keep them in stock long enough for me to pick up an XL.
Good luck Lol
I waited on the T7 to come back in stock in a Large frame from for over a month and in that time just saved up enough money to order a Canyon Neuron 7. I was really interested in that T7 but unable/unwilling to wait for it to come back in stock. They look like great bikes for the price
Well, the demand in the production country is really high due covid-19. People switching from motorize blvehicle to bike. So, might have to wait a lil longer
Polygon is Indonesian Brand
Well for polygon, the stock was keep low due to the high demand, especially for indonesian costumer since Polygon was made in indonesia and the bike trend and deman in there was very high
Hey guys, thank you for the review. I've got a D7 a month ago and already upgraded it - installed new blue grips))) it's a very good bike and I enjoy riding it very much.
Polygon Reppin'! Love my Siskiu N8. No other brand could beat the price for the spec. Couldn't really ask for more for my first full sus, as someone with a restricted budget.
How about united clovis 6.10 its a hardtail bike
There is also a Siskiu D6 and D5, that would be the actual "entry level". These are both just different levels of mid-range
don't get the d6 or d5
No. The d6 and d5 are absolutely horrible, practically Walmart bikes. Especially the d5. The d7 is an entry level full sus
@@bentoth2494 exactly
@@bentoth2494 care to share why? Components, or something else?
@@bentoth2494 it's the rider that makes the bike I got the d5 and ride thru anything no issues, u should see the stunts I was doing back when I was a kid on a mongoose bike
2:09 wooden stick to support the bike noice. had been watching Blake and Neil all the videos and relay helped me getting back to my child hood cycling memories. now i bought my polygon cascade to start again what was a part of me once (cycling) I already Live in mountains so going to try to learn all skills. love from INDIA
Finalllyyy.....ibwas looking a review of siskiu d7 and you guys have made it thank you so much gmbn
Great video as always,even if Polygon is not available in Canada,i would like to see a comparison between a 2021 entry level full suspension and a 8-10 years old top tire bike
I realize this is a comment from 2 years ago, but MEC sells Polygon bikes.
Thanks gmbn I needed that video 👍🏻👍🏻
I have that exact Siskiu D7. I think for the intended rider it more than fits the bill for cost and spec. The more I ride it the more I like it and just riding in general. Going forward will get something with longer travel for all the chunk where I live and of course because I love jumps. Sick video thanks.
Neil and Blake back together once more! They'll be touring together, once more soon!
I’m so grateful for this review. I did my research and preordered the D7 dropper post edition three days before this review. I respect you guys and your opinions on bikes so I was really nervous clicking on the video but tremendously relieved to know I didn’t make a bad choice. This is my first full suspension bike and I didn’t want to be disappointed with the quality for the price.
you wont be disappointed, you can also upgrade components as it suits you as they are very good base.
shoulda gone for the t7
@@mctg9043 T7 just has more travel.
Awesome review! Will you guys please do one of the 2021 T7 model?
These dudes rock! Both have some amazing skills love watching their videos 🤙🔝
The Dutch tilt shots and eerie music made me unsettled during the intro lol. Great video!
this is the pride of Indonesia's bicycle .. finally get to see the bikes in the reviews on this channel .. thx
Have em both 👍
Hai sobat upgrade,. Sepedanya lg di review GMBN 😂 🎉
iyadah atlet Polygon mah enak di support
Iy iy
halo sobat upgrade
Have them all 😂
I got last year the N9 and I love it. Great video
I have a D7 and I love it! And I am lovin' the Drum & Bass in this video!
When entry level is 1500 you know you picked the wrong hobby
1500 isn’t that much
Interesting video. Would love to hear you go a bit more in-depth in comparing the actual ride experience between these cheaper/mid-range bikes and those upper range stuff you often use in GMBN. Like, for example, if you rode the N9 and a $5000-7000 bike blindfolded, what would be the key differences you'd spot right away? Or does it simply come down to more durable parts etc. instead of a drastically different ride experience?
if you rode the N9 and a $5000-7000 bike blindfolded, the key difference would be that you hit a tree fast vs really fast.
Awesome! my son has been riding an N9 for about a month and loves it, my wife has a D7 that is showing up tomorrow by freight. I'm sticking with my GHOST SLAMRX for now. ;)
I run a Siskiu T8. I have upgraded the basics and put volume spacers in both forks and rear shock. These are amazing bikes for the money. Yes I'd like a full carbon dual sus bike but the covid tax has put these out of reach of most people. My T8 is solid, reliable and perfect for my skill.
I just looked into polygon, and I am 100% going to buy a polygon for my next bike
I wish I had that good of a Full Suspension XC😔always waned a Polygon bike the T8 is dope
Good job Polygon. I DO like what im seeing here. I really do. Hope some of the other brands take a little "inspiration" from that.
I first pre-ordered a 2021 D7 in august,then the 2021 T7 came out and available for pre-order so i canceled the D7 order and am waiting for it to get shipped around oct 4th,cant wait to see what the T7 is about for the price, alot of people been talking about this brand and what you get for your money, good review !
did anyone else notice the framerate = RPMs on the bike wheels at 6:18? Makes them look kind of like they were just sliding along lol
The suskiu d7 insn't that slack at 67°!!!
slack would be more like the grim dohnut at 57° !!! 🤣
More xc
Grim Donut is a different breed tho
67° is just the beginning of a trail bike.
I would say a bike is slack with 64° and below but that’s just personal preference.
Just ordered a D7 as my first full sus today. Going from a used $200 Rockhopper to this will hopefully be a dream!
same here! i've been riding an old diamondback hardtail that recently broke down for good and i just placed an order for the D7 before the black friday sale ended. i'm hyped to get back on the trails, good luck with your new bike!
@@scate3035 Nice!
My “entry level” Stumpjumper still cost 4K CDN. Only things I’d change are the rotors and maybe carbon bars to help dampen some vibration.
Great video aimed at the price range most mortals will be looking at. Just shows its about the bike and not the name. Even so called budget ranges are coming with great spec kit and geometry. Sensible and informative vid guys. Keep safe all
Look at the Marin alpine trail series. They just updated geo and get some damn aggressive numbers and kit for a super competitive price
This review was not good! Four ads and little insight.
At 2:04 Recon RL Silver, not Gold. Should specify.
Deore rd - essentially the same as the XT model apart from the lack of bearings in the jockey wheels, and you should specify that it has the clutch.
M200 brakes - no such thing. It's MT200, and then either MT201 or MT200 levers (difference is the MT200 are steel, which rust, MT201 doesn't). I believe these are in fact MT201
Hubs - should mention that these are thru-axle and boost. Quite a bit above entry-level.
Finishing kit from Entity - this is Polygon's own brand. Should specify.
Siskiu N9 - the D7 is also tapered headset. But the frame geometry of an Enduro bike is different! That's why they weigh the same.
Also you should mention that the fork is 36mm and obviously much much stiffer and more robust than the 32mm Recon. Saying they are both 'big brand' is ridiculous. Rockshox makes some really low grade stuff. This one is very much 'entry-level'. The Fox is a higher grade, and a piggy-back shock more expensive than the basic lock-out model on the D7. The reason they weigh the same is that one is a heavy-grade enduro bike with relatively light components, whereas the other is lighter-duty bike with cheaper heavier components.
Brakes - yes they are TRP but they are a higher grade than the Shimano MT200, in that they are 4-piston.
You should also mention that the difference between 11-speed and 12-speed is the 10t cog rather than the 11t cog at the bottom.
T8 yes it's heavier because it doesn't have the higher grade components of the N9 but it's more robust than the D7.
very detailed than this vid😂😂
Watch the vid then come to the comments for the real review. Thanks dude, very helpful
When this comment is the real review of the bikes 🤣
@@julianmcgregor7949 not really a review but basically Polygon have the Xtrada hardtail, 5 & 6 are the same frame, 5 is 2x10 XCM fork, 6 is 1x11 or 2x11 XCR, also clutch derailleur . I kinda like the 5 but the fork is best upgraded to something better like Epixon/Raidon/Recon RL.
Xtrada 7 is 1x12 and thru axle frame, which is better but kinda overkill.
Syncline is the carbon frame (same geometry) and not really worth it for most people as you really need a bunch of expensive components bro make carbon MTB worthwhile .
Siskiu has the D5 which is kind of a basic spec with the bad XCM fork, qr axle, 2x9 drivetrain. D7 is ta frame, 1x11 and good enough suspension. It might be sold without dropper post in some countries. D6 isn't made any more for 2021.
D series is full sus XC geometry.
T series is full sus trail geometry so a bit more travel but T7 is largely the same components as D7, just more travel. Except you do get a 12 speed drive train and 4 piston rear brakes, which at the US price difference of $100 is a steal given the overall beefed up ness
All these bikes are good if you pay a good price. Wrong price and not so much. But if your bike says Trek then people will be happy to pay more for the same or less. polygon not so much.
T8 is basically the same as T7 with slightly better suspension, i.e. fox rhythm 34 up front, which is definitely better than the recon 32 rl but it's not a top of the line fork (you want fox float or RockShox charger). Also rear shock is better, but I'd kinda save the $500 and upgrade later (though the 32mm steel stanchions on the T7 definitely count as dated now)
The N series (N8 N9) is just longer travel and better suspension generally but as noted in the video the N9 still is not the top of the range damper in the fork, so potentially you can do better even with a T7 and new suspension, but it depends on pricing again..
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Don't ruin it mate. I'm just happy they dared to show a recon on gmbn. But... love your attention to details.
Love the videos these two guys do.
Omg polygon!!! I have a 2017 Siskiu D7 and 2017 Collosus T8. My Siskiu D7 came with an xt rear derailleur but it's 2x10. Polygon is my favourite brand just because their bikes tend to be priced lower than everyone else for the same components.
Nice Drum & Bass. 😉
I don't know where it sits on the scale but I'm STOKED with my 2020 Norco Fluid FS2. It's the middle of the Fluid range, which I'd consider a mid-range trail bike..?
I just want to throw a Fox fork up front FTW!
I kept trying to order a Norco here in the US, but I guess with the 'roner virus thing going on they keep pushing back pre-order dates.
Before I gave up and ordered a giant trance 3, they said all of their orders coming here to the US are backed up 15 months, so it'll be over a year before Norco comes back.
My local bike shops are talking about dropping them because giant, trek, specialized, etc. are still filling orders within 6 months
That entry level bike is 150% value of my car 😂
Dang what car do you drive?
Do you have a LADA?
Got my N7 a month ago. It rips. Very happy with the Polygon brand.
I have a 2019 T7 in medium with 27.5 wheel size. Was my first dual suspension and cost $2200 AUD. Son is now riding this so I’m probably getting the D7 very soon. This time in Large and 29’er.
Great value bikes, good components, excellent for budget conscious intermediate level riders.
I used to own a 2019 Siskiu N9, I miss that bike
Guys, can we please see a review of two long travel bikes with different levels of suspension? Example. Fox factory 36 w/kashima vs. fox rhythm 36!
Guys! Why didn't you throw Polygon in the title?! I have been shopping my first full suspension for months. Trail riding for 2 years on a hardtail. My son has started riding with me so the requirement to buy two bikes demanded smart shopping. I'm sure most of us still have moments of bewilderment by the price of "entry" bikes. In my journey of riding, maintenance, and skill improvements the two of you have always been my favorites in video's and well delivered content. You can only imagine how stoked I was to see you guys riding the brand and touching on the bikes I have come to believe are truly the best bang for your buck, no compromise, entry/mid entry, quality bike. I'm talking about the 2021 Siskiu T8 and the the T7. (Not shown here) I loved this video and would implore you to add Polygon to the title. There is a serious shortage of content on these bikes and they deserve the attention. Your views and likes are sure to go up! My T8 is on pre-order and a T7 is going in the cart on availability. Keep the content coming. Actually now that I think about the fact I haven't secured my T7, maybe wait a month. Thanks!
Never thought polygon will have its own video from gmbn 😍
170 mil front & rear = All-Mountain-Bike? Wtf are you serious, when I started watching this channel 160 mil was considered enduro haha.
They can change the meaning of the numbers when all of it is marketing bullshit anyway.
i mean technically 170/170 bikes can do all the mountains lol
Lol when Blake said that, I was like wth? I thought that's a enduro bike.
yeah, so here I am suddenly deciding I wanted to have a mountain bike again and just got into all the different classes you have these days. In my younger days you had MTB's and downhill bikes and MBX'es. Now I'm all confused again...
There are now fixed rules on the different bike categories its mainly up to the manufacturer to classify the bikes
Finally but I hope a Siskiu t8 review will come in the future.
I check the 2021 T8 stock at least twice a day 😂
@@jfrosty42 did they say when it should be available for pre order?
So stoked to see more polygon on the channel! Just grabbed a D7 for the GF and a T8 for myself.
excellent, excellent, need more reviews with budget friendly bikes
Finally.. GMBN review my national bike brands.. next im waiting their review Patrol 691 bike..
Ini sponsor mank
Yes, I'm Indonesian, and yes I'm feeling super proud right now hahaha,
The amount of attention Polygon doesn't get for their awesome value bikes is a bit too high right now!
I have a polygon premier 5 2019 and I love it a lot the best choice I have made buying a Indonesian made😍 brand instead of shitty Chinese made cycle
I bought Polygon Premier 5 (2020) model last month over big brands name like Trek Marlin, Giant ATX and Giant Talon. I saved some money by investing in a Polygon bike and I'm super happy with the overall quality and performance of the bike. Best value for money brand.
@@sudipta_11 Surely Polygon can beat Treak and giant at that price in every aspect
GOODNESS, you guys look SHARP aboard Polygon Bikes! 🤯
Great review. Be nice to see you guys do an in-depth review on the Siskiu d7 fingers crossed 🤞👍
I don’t think Blake is capable of leaving the ground without throwing a bit of swaz on it.
For sure
I sold of my full suspension. Don't ride it enough. Just kept my hardtail it's just a much better over all bike it's very well buil everything Shimano xtr. And lots of titanium parts
@Hands of Stone it's nothing special just a jamis. That I build over a little time
Greetings from Indonesia! That Bike was Made in Indonesia. Proud of it!
You guys are so cool and talented. Question, im about to get my first full suspension bike, entry level bike and cant decide with one to buy giant trance 3 or stump jumper alloy or comp.need your advice, keep it coming and all of you in gmbn rocks.
Not really feeling these ‘reviews’.
I can’t believe Neil is saying sentences like “it’s only 11 speed” I mean, really? 🤷♂️ An almost £1500 bike is not “super affordable” either.
A lot of names mentioned, but what’s the differences? Anyone who doesn’t know what Deore or XT means won’t have a clue.
I've gotten used to GBMN's meaning of an "affordable" bike, but saying that it's "only" an 11 speed triggered me. I can't imagine that a one gear difference will make a big change, especially on trails I would think you could barely tell the difference between a few teeth on different cassettes.
To try find some reasoning, the 11 speed will have the old style spline freehub. The 12 speed will been the microspline. Having the 11 speed rather than 12 adds an extra complexity to upgrading in the future.
There's also no reason why they would have gone with the 11 speed other than making room above it. 12 speed deore is available, and the choice of freehub design is an option when speccing the hub. It doesn't make a difference to the cost (at least at retail, perhaps for OEM it might be more expensive). If that's what they were going for though, they should have called it out as such. The majority of people interested in a budget bike are probably still riding 10 or less so really don't care if it's 11 or 12.
having recently upgraded my mtb drivetrain I believe Neil was getting at a larger sticking point than the number of cogs, gear ratios, and cadence. Its really hard to find 10 and 11 speed cassettes with a wide enough range to merit a one by system. you simply won't have an easy time finding a 50+ tooth cog to go on on bikes with less gears
Well if you don’t know the difference in components you could always google it.
Lazy kids these days.
Batscat May as well say why bother making a comparison vid because people can just google it?
To be fully honest I almost fell over dead when he said 1500 was the cheap one my price range was more thinking 500 cheaper to 1500 mid range.
Big advert for Polygon? Good information never the less.👍🇦🇺🍺
Own an N8 and its a beast, can't believe they are reviewing these bikes! Best value for the money
I swear to god people complain about the price of entry level bikes. Mtb has a high entry point if you want something that actually works. Try ride a crappy cheap bike and you'll be saving up for a nicer one pretty quickly
Exactly
prettu quickly???? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA u think i earned $10000 per month....................................................................................................I earn $200 per month...................................Not everybody lives in the USA or EUROPE..................................................................................................................................................................................................................
I live in NZ where we pay a pretty penny for all our outdoor gear. Saved up all my money from my after school job for 1. 5 years to buy my bike.
@@INTEL965GAMES don't buy new then 🤷♂️ buy within your budget just don't complain when someone else's budget is differemt to yours
@@jameswillemsen2609 he’s not complaining he’s stating fact
Me: Yo bike, where's your sus?
Among us addicts: IMPOSTER!IMPOSTER! HE'S THE IMPOSTER
Everyone else: We mean SUSpension.
Thank you for making a review of the polygon mtbs. I only trust you guys.
U too lads are a great combo ,big respect 👊🙏🙏
I appreciate the reviews of the two bikes, but can you really “compare” a 120mm travel bike to a 170mm travel bike? A better comparison would have been between 2 of the exact same bike models with different build kits.
Extra travel is what your extra money is buying you. Surely that is the point if this video?
Well mostly the point of the video is to advertise Polygon bikes. If they compared similar class bikes of different specs they wouldn’t be able to advertise the whole range I guess?
Tbf they didn’t really even comment on how they rode, just described all the components
Just ordered the N9 and I got to say, that is not mid range, for me its ultra high range but I still bought it lol 😭
I love these comparison videos. In my case, I'm a proper old bastard, so I watch and compare to my old no-sus (but Gucci at the time) GT Avalanche and reckon we are so spoiled these days 😁 I ride road, gravel and off-road/trail and often think about how back whe the likes of Missy Giove was shredding US downhills my current Trek Fuel would have been the absolute dog's bollocks and it makes me smile all day 😁👍 I love your channel lads
Cool video guys! 👍😎 cheerz💯
Polygon pancen joss tenan. 😁 Produk Lokal sing wis internasional...
Bener lurr...melu seneng karo bangga
give "Polygon" on the tittle, n you will got 1M...... comment from +62 people!
anjir HAHAHAHAHAAHA
sane +62 person here. can confirm.
wkwkwkwkwkwk
Viewer stonks
bgst...hhahahaha
If your out there having fun and it puts a smile on your face then there's no need to spend the big bucks.
Love what you do guys
And then there’s me watching this with a £350 hardtail 😂
Carerra gang 💯
Hi guys, nice vid on affordable bikes, one question though... I always thought that 120 mil front suspension was a class 4 bike, only capable of jumping 50 cm... Could you please comment on that ? Btw, keep up the excellent work, lads ! 🚵🏼
Qudos for making this video. Im very much at the budget end here, and its good to see those bikes can still be properly 'sent'.
Whats the big deal about the 1x11 vs 1x12? Is it not not just a little less range between the little and big cogs? Pretty sure i could power through that.
Usually the 12th gear is a lot bigger than the 11th that come standard. Eg. Sram GX 11sp was 10-42T, and current Sram GX Eagle 12sp is 10-52T. You can pair an eagle with a same size front ring to make a real easy climb gear, or a bigger front ring to increase top speed without sacrificing climbing
Thank you so much for this video
Polygon Xquarone is high end level
I proud to you already to use my country bike “polygon”
+62 GG
I have the Siskiu D7 just like the one Neil was using. 🤩
Two different travel bikes for different approaches . The longer travel can blast through more of the tough stuff where the short travel bike you have to tone it down a bit but can go most places as long as you pick your spots and slow the speed down . It seems the trend for now is shorter travel bikes as many bikers are not blasters and most trails are not off the side of a mountain .
Love 💓 polygon
I see polygon i click
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Indonesian people are different😂
Interesting video, I’m having this dialema with a commercial metA. Looking between the 29 ride and the essential
Awesome videos lads....Q is amazing hud sounds creating Drag on the roll...??
and for once Neil gets the entry level bike
£1500 isn’t an entry level bike,my Boardman full suspension was well under £1000.
The components and geometry that counts but o well
Yeah my thought exactly!
I thought was “Oh cool! GMBN will suggest some £900 to £1200 priced quality full suspension”.
Instead the cheapest is £1500 and they call it entry level!
I guess in their world everyone has fancy job and income and don’t have to support family on low income.
Back to El Chepo for me!
Yup. My 2017 team FS has done me very, very well. £1000.
Very proud Polygon reviewer by you guys. Indonesia Pride!!!
I pre-ordered the 2021 D7 and got it smack bang on the release date, I love it for zipping around on the local trails, not as fast or as costly as my downhill bike, but it sure does the job.
Would you recommend it? Im really looking at the D7 as my first bike. Been using some of my buddies hardtails but want full sus. Is there anything else around that price range of the D7 thats worth it or even the D6?
@@Mytro34 D6 is good with price and all and is pretty much just a lower spec D7, but I would really recommend spending that little bit extra with the D7 as it comes with better suspension brand and etc. But yeah at the end of the day its hard to find a better bike for price other than the D7. Would really recommend it.
@@copyth5748 that’s awesome. That really helps me. I have my eye on a few others in the $1.5-2K range but everything keeps bringing me back to this bike for the “bang for buck”
My entry level costs half of their entry level.
My mid rage is second hand
😂😂😂😂 I have never heard prices worded that way
My first full suspension bike was an entry level $1700 Haro that I rode for four years then I upgraded to a mid level $3000 Scott and the ride is night and day difference. These are American prices. I will not spend much more than that other than upgrading parts on the Scott since I love this bike that much. I think the mid level fits the bill for every type of riding that I do.
Loved this vid guys keep up the awesome work
P.s loving the new style of video like with the cuts and all that, so as I said keep up that awesome work lovin it