I think this is the best budget downcountry bike.
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2021
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Literally the quality of seth’s videos but with only 8k subs, this man is gonna grow so fast
It did
It definetly did
I have two Rockshox entry level air forks. Those "discoloration" you mentioned was because of the shock oil residue. (Dark is wet) after a ride, wipe the stanchions with isopropyl alcohol, and the discoloration will be gone.
I have the D6 and really enjoy it. Its handled everything I've thrown at it so far. With the way parts are I'm riding what I have till its pretty toasted or prices and supply come back down to earth.
Boostinator conversion kits exist to convert both front and rear non-boost to boosted width. Make sure you also get the boost brake adaptor kit for the rotor as well, so it's spaced out to the right caliper location.
When changing brakes, take a shifter cable and run it fully inside the hose of your existing brake caliper before you pull the caliper out the port. The cable will fish through - then just simply fish the new brake through using the cable.
The Recon rebound lever thing can sometimes fall off, and the damper goes wonky after a couple months hard riding. But a great budget fork nonetheless.
Such a rad bike, had my eye on it when availability was non existent so I bought my friends Giant. I like what you said about mtb not having to be risking your life every ride. My favorite ride is flat and shady but I still love to shred a bike park. Which we will do together at Snow Summit one day, or skypark.
Stoked to see you loved the bike! Keen to see what upgrade you make!!
Nice to see you guys amongst the community. I bought the 2021 siskiu d5 as my first full suspension bike. Its now fully upgraded into a torque sensing E-MTB with custom 2x12 32/44t 11-50t cassette drive train that can go any where. I have a slow (960fps) motion suspension travel video and will be doing a long term review and full bang for Buck build video soon. I'm living my bike, thank you guys for making awesome super capable bikes!
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Bought this baby because of you pal. Riding it is just a charm. Love everything about it
Found your video while researching the Siskiu D7 and you did a great job explaining the setup, features, ride quality, and where the bike fits in the budget/value/skill level plot. Bought it last night and made sure to confirm with customer service that you would get credit for the affiliate sale. Thanks for the great video and good luck with your channel!
Awesome Michael I really appreciate it! It's a really great bike I hope you love yours!
I'm new to mountain biking and this is my first full suspension bike and like you said its spot on for a beginner.
Wow! Here early. Love your videos and excited for the polygon relationship! I have a Siskiu D6 and I love it!
Thank you for making this early as possible man
Happy to use your link. Great video!
I bought my son a 24” Polygon Relic Evo MTB and was extremely impressed by it. The packing was fantastic and the quality/value of the bike for the price is impressive.
Man the quality of you content is awesome
You are my favourite UA-camr you made my day thanks for uploading and keep up the good work
Nice review, and nice to see a review of the bike in the context of "general use" xc trails. I've been eyeballing one of these for next year and similar to you, 90% of my riding is on pretty mellow xc trails. I got a Polygon Premier 4 earlier this year just to kind of get my feet wet and I've overall been impressed with the build quality and value for the price.
I really wish I got one of these! I decided to get long travel instead, but I will say that a long travel bike makes me feel safer.
And omg 😳 you need more subscribers
I'm fairly certain that you can get spacers for the front wheel if you want to swap the fork.
Someone else commented that too. I will try to order them asap
I got my spacers from mt zoom for my D6.
U can, I have a non boost front wheel on a boost fox 36, it works fine and the spacers have no riding effect whatsoever
@@EvansMTBSaga It's spacers for the hub and one for the brake rotor.
Was boutta say the exact same thing
Really helpful👍 I ordered this bike a week ago and it’s coming in a month.
Awesome video greta bike ! Its been great to see your channel grow! Keep it up man ! 👍🏼💪🏼😎
I love my D7. I ride almost exclusively Bonelli in SoCal. Maybe a bid overbiked for Bonelli, but I needed the extra compliance for my old man body. I added a smaller front chain sprocket and went tubeless.
hey Evan, thanks for reviewing this bike. i just got mine a couple days ago and love it. great channel bro.
Oh heck yeah man glad you liked it! Have you checked out my upgrade videos on the D7? I think I should've rode the fork longer, I thought the Recon was a great fork.
@@EvansMTBSaga i saw that one too,i enjoyed it as well. the fork does seem very capable,i was worried it would feel heavy tho. to my surprise it doesn't. as you can probably guess, the trails here in florida are mostly flat single track with no big jumps so i think this one will do a good job. thanks again man,looking forward to your next video.
I ran into this cool kid and his dad at my local trail. The kid had saved his grass cutting money for 2 years to buy a Polygon full sus. Dont know what model but it had full Deore and Rockshox front and rear for $1800! Ive been riding 30 years and his bike was as nice as any Ive had.😂Very cool bike and kid! Will definitely consider one with my next purchase!
I have a 2021 Polygon Siskiu T7. I love it.
The price increases are crazy but that is an obvious statement. I bought the T7 for $100 more than this D7 at the beginning of the year. I love it though and I am sure that I would have loved the D7 just as much. Great review, I have not upgraded the fork from the Recon yet. the performance has been adequate for my needs and I have tested it on quite a few rocky black diamond trails. Love the video. Thanks Evan!
Man 8k congratulations bro I now will be no time to 100k🔥🔥 you deserve it because your videos are so good... Member from Saga squad from Mexico
Yeah its been going up super fast this week. Thanks so much man!
Price on the 27.5 is $1399!....I am almost at 2000 miles in mostly rocky southwest and no problems! Went to 2.4s and Stan's Tubless and taller bars. The brakes are good once they bed in unless you are heavier, but I'm 135 so no problem. Great bike for the money and ''FUN'' to ride.
rn you can get a m 27.5 for 1199 blackfriday deal
8:08 The plastic tab thing is the tool to adjust the rebound, you pull it out and put it in your tool bag for when you need it.
Nice review. I ride the 2021 D7 and its a lot of fun. I did change out the rear shock to a heavier coil because I'm a heavy guy and I was bottoming out the shock a lot. Took it to Spider Mountain this summer and it was awesome!
Which one did you upgrade too? I’m in the same boat!
@@barronnj I put a DNM 750lb coil with reload and pre-load adjustment.
Just put boost spacers in the front wheel if u want to upgrade it. Works really well on my non-boost hub!
You can do the spacer kit to make 100mm wheel fit boost forks(I'm guessing you already know that). I agree with liking external cable routing. Overall though, looks like a decent bike. I have a Polygon Cascade 4 and was seriously thinking about buying a full suspension bike over the winter, I think this will be a serious contender.
Thanks for the review because I am about to buy one of those bikes pretty soon. 🤙
Nice dude! Use my link and also don't wait too long, the sale is ending
Amazing video! Really like the edit style! ;)
Used your link to pick this bad boy up. I was a little shocked at the condition of the box when it got delivered, but somehow everything made it in tact lol
This is my dream bike, nice review pal 👍
Bought this bike today, looking forward to unboxing tomorrow!
Dude congrats! Wait until you see how well it's packaged. I love mine and it's still my main bike.
Evan you're growing so fast - I think you'll be able to do youtube full time soon hopefully :)
damn that looks extremely nice, i remember almost 2 years ago when polygon was an extremely underground brand only popular in asia; my uncle owned a hardtail although i cant remember the model
xtrada maybe?
@@mctg9043 that's the one! it was the xtrada 6 2017 i believe
I have a 2021 polygon xtrada 7 29 inch in a large and I love it and the company is great and the people are very nice and I pre ordered mine and it came before it was supposed to
I have the sikiu t7 and I love it!!! It’s basically this bike with better components but a trail
Version!!
Heck yeah those are pretty nice
This bike has got me drooling 🤤 I'm 16, and I have been saving for a while... Cannot wait to get this bike. I personally like the 2021 Paint Job better, so I think I'll go for that one. Awesome content, I like how you give tips on how to setup the bike while you are reviewing. 🤙
Heck yeah the 2021 is on sale too!
@@EvansMTBSaga Yeah I Saw that! Can I buy the 2021 through your affiliate link? Or is it just the 2022?
Yeah the affiliate link works through any bike or parts on the site. Thanks for thinking of me
If you do upgrade the fork look into problem solvers non boost to boost spacer kit . Super simple and not too expensive.
Watched a few of your videos and your brilliant, mostly keep it to a realistic price range which will reach alot more viewers as not everyone can afford the top of the link most expensive bikes
I had a Siskiu D7 around 4 years back. A cracking bike for the Money, and a great bike to keep upgrading as the components wore out.
Sold it to a friend, and it’s still going strong.
My full suspension bike if choice is this or the d6. I’m a beginner and so much enjoy riding!! Thanks for the review!!
The D6 seems like a better choice if you're going to make any changes to the fork. But then again you won't get the same rear shock or drive train, which means extra cost if you want the same feel.
Fuck yeah. I’m an XC guy. Great review! Love the outro tune. I love Arizona.
Appreciate You Evans Buying That Bike From Indonesia Actually Made In Indonesia 👍👍👍
I have a 2021 Siskiu D5 and it is a beast on long distance jumps I got a 10ft jump on a 11 inch tall ramp
Pretty good review... I just bought this bike a few days ago... it's awesome for the price point.
Dude congrats! You will love it
@@EvansMTBSaga Thank you bro. Yes, I did enjoy my first ride last Sunday...modified it though a day before... I swapped my Deore brakeset from my hardtail as well as used my current wheelset and tyres. Felt awesome, can't wait for the weekend again. 👍👍👍🚵🚵🚵
Love all the Polygon full suspension line up, best bang for the buck for sure!
Isn't Polygon just Marin ?
@@MancWithAMouth Not sure, rumor was that they are made in the same warehouse but geo wise they don't look the same.
@@keosoutdooradventures pretty much everything is made in one big industrial estate in Taiwan , its like a city. But I believe marin , polygon and another brand are actually all the same company/ owned or run by the same overhead company from information I can get from within the industry.
@@MancWithAMouth Polygon is made in Indonesia. They also manufacture frames for other brands, including Marin, I think.
@@martoscbox from what I've heard / seen proof of marin / polygon are essentially the same brand , one manufactures the frames or designs for each other and also helps or works with Whyte. But essentially both brands may aswell be one & the same.
Good review on the D7. One thing that bothers me is the whole qr vs thru-axle debate. Now, I'm sure a thru stiffens the rear, that I will not contest. As well, there should never be an issue with the wheel falling out of the dropouts. However, I have an 18 Roscoe 8 with boost qr. I've ridden it at Snowshoe, Bryce and on numerous local black singletrack without any issues. The only real dilemma I've found is seeking to upgrade wheels. With that said, despite wishing I had a better engagement hub; hence looking at wheel upgrades, the SunRingle Duroc wheels have held up well over the past three years of thrashing. Sure they're dinged and will never be run tubeless again; but hey, I'm still getting smiles for miles out of them! So, my thought is if someone is interested in a particular rig and find it has a qr rear, that shouldn't necessarily turn them away. Obviously, I am in no way trying to hold on to the qr standard, but for the foreseeable future some bikes will still have them. And I believe if a person really likes that bike and they are knowledgeable as to what they are getting into then I say go for it. However, if the option to get a rig with thru exists, then by all means they should go ahead and pick that one up. As it will make certain things easier down the road.
Good comment! I haven't had a QR come loose on a ride and if someone is real worried, they can change the skewer to a bolt on. Definitely not the end of the world like you mentioned. Thanks man!!
It seems that your looking at the "actual seat tube angle" instead of the "effective seat tube angle" when comparing the seat angles. The effective angle is much more useful than the actual because effective is measured from the center of the bottom bracket to the middle of the seat, meaning the effective angle is what actually determines how steep the seat angle feels when your pedaling.
Was gonna say
New bike hype! Looks good!
The true Margarita
@@EvansMTBSaga yeah the $5 house, not the El Presidente Especial
I picked up a recon RL aswell for my norco storm. Huge upgrade from the xce28 but ya I felt the same way about the rebound, it also pulls out for an allen key. Lol.
Another good one man👍👍. Congrats on finally hitting that wave! It wont be long until you are mentioned right along with Berm Peak. I believe I said that you would pass us this year, and you said it would be next year. Well do you want to put a friendly wager on that?😜 Remember that you are supposed to wave at us as you pass by😂👍.
Will you guys be looking at a polygon
What wave?
Thanks guys. That wave is pretty crazy. It's been like 100 subs a day since the Specialized video. Hope it doesn't end or I'll be really sad haha. I still want to fly out to ride Mt Nebo sometime!
@@The_RC_Dude You don't see that giant wave of hundreds of new subscribers by the day, or thousands of views in hours? Our guy is riding the "wave" of success right now, and it is a big wave.
@@eugene44569 I think they are all priced out of our budget right now. Maybe in the future.
Looks fire
Love my D7 , best decision ever !
You are the Best UA-camr
evan, they gave you a bike to review??? I'm so proud of you man
I know right! So cool of them to reach out. We started talking when I only had 4k subs
@@EvansMTBSaga they reached out to you, too? clearly they saw your value then :)
this bike made in Indonesia.
nice review dude.
polygon,united,thrill,pacific.
evan you are the best
Been looking at bikes and finally decided on this one, but was pulling my hair out at what size to order. Thought the XL reach might end up being too long, but after seeing you on the large I think I'm definitely going with the XL
What do you think of it?
@@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS Unfortunately haven't had the chance to ride it on any trails yet since our weather has been either rainy or snowy here since I got it.
What do think about the size now??
@@andrewdonaldson6388 Being 6'2", I'm definitely glad I went with the XL especially for longer rides.
Tip if you have no o ring use a zip tie but use the smoothest side so it doesn’t wreck the fork
My dream bike😍
Great video! I see the other side of the debate on cable routing...internal va external. I had always seen the cables as a potential safety concern if the brakes were messed up by being between the bottom bracket and a rock or whatever...but on the replacement of parts... I guess there is a quicker way to replace the cables/hoses if they are already on the outside....
Makes me wonder.. if all the electrical wires and plumbing were on the inside of the drywall instead...problems could be addressed so much easier! Haha!
If your fork doesn't have an o-ring to indicate sag, put a zip tie around the stanchions and tighten just enough so it slides and remains in place after compression
I've seen people do that but I was worried it would scratch the stanchion. I'll let you in on a secret. I have a new fork already and want to keep the Recon in pristine shape for resale
@@EvansMTBSaga They're plastic, so as long as you don't over tighten and then remove it after you set your sag, it'll be fine
My Rockrider (yes its a Decathlon bike) XC 100S is quite well equipped for 1400€, NX Eagle 1×12, Manitou Markhor air fork and Manitou Radium shock and 120mm front and rear, SRAM Level T brakes 180mm front 160mm rear rotors, and tubeless ready boost wheels and tubeless ready tires, tbh I think you should check it out
There's no question that this is a sick bike for the price, but IMO its hard to call it a "downcountry" bike rather than "short travel trail bike". The reason is the weight. Downcountry really implies cross-country level efficiency and speed in rolling terrain, mildly techy climbs, and long days out, while achieving a good level of downhill capability. That being said, I know everyone else is calling it downcountry too.
Nice video have you tried the siskiu t8?? What’s your opinion on that bike compared to the d7?
Sick!
5:10 “Dampening”😂😂😂
Down Country bikes were first made from Cross Country race bikes that weigh in around 21 pounds, 120mm forks were added, along with wider rims, bigger lightweight XC tries, and wider handlebars, the bikes were still well under 25 pounds, a bike like you just took out of the box came in our shop the other day, it was a least 10 pounds heavier, thats a trail bike, not even close to a Down Country Bike. XC race tracks have now become more challenging, the bike are now beefier with 120/110 or 120/120, with wider rims/tires, slacker geometry, weighing in around 20/22 pounds, they are Down Country bikes. Take a look at Nino Schurters Spark..
Keren ini Polygon siskiu d7 ajib lurrs
Hey evan! coming up fast on 10k!
Heck yeah Miata. Probably 1000 new subs in the last week. It's been getting crazy!
Legend
i got the D6 coz i preferred the yellow LOL, but the purple on the newer t8 is nice
Checkout the new 2023 Siskiu D7 SE...sweet colorway and boost fork with a few small upgrades to the 2022 for not much more cost
Hey Evan, I don't know if u remember me. I coincidentally bought your koozer front hub from u on eBay and received one of ur first stickers on the channel ever made. That hub has now made its way across many project builds landing on my siskiu d5 fully upgraded to E-MTB. What a coincidence and small world, lol. Do you know if they have they made any changes to how far the seat post can go down into the seat tube for 2022? I love my 2021 model but the 1 criticism I have with the bikes is more a fit issue. I'm a smaller rider(~29 inseam) riding the small I wasn't able to get seat post past the pivot on the seat tube. Keep the quality videos coming brother
Hey man! I was thinking about you the other day, glad you commented! That sounds awesome about the D5 going electric, I think you should make a video about that bike! (longer than the one on your channel). For the 2022 models, the frame is still the same, but it has a different paint job. I believe there's going to be a revamp in either 23 or 24 models
Oh men I want this bike
It's a great bike, can't wait to ride tomorrow. If you do decide to buy it, please click my link and then buy it, it'd be a major help for the channel!
@@EvansMTBSaga I got you!
I wish I could get that awesome bike
A zip tie works just as good as a stock sag ring, easy and reliable solution.
Oh man I was worried that'd scratch the stanchion! So it works okay?
@@EvansMTBSaga I do this on all customer bikes and on my own. Haven't had any problems what so ever.
Another slick solution I've seen is just tying some think black yarn around the stanchion.
@@EvansMTBSaga Put the zip tie backwards (so it won't click). This will hold it tight enough to slide and after you're done you can remove it by hand without having to cut it off.
Why are so many yutube reviewrs talking about replacing the shimano mt200 or mt401 brakes that have 160mm rotors on the rear. Here's a pro tip for you all, dont replace the brake set, replace the rotors to 180mm or bigger, and use pads other than resin only, braking will improve dramatically, I promise you.
Dude love the review. The D7 is a dope bike. I do agree about the boost spacing being kinda pointless.
Evan, I ride a Rockrider XC100S down country bike with 120mm front and rear, Manitou Markhor fork and Manitou Radium shock, 1×12 SRAM NX, 180mm front 160mm rear SRAM Level T with Sun Ringlé Duroc 30 wheels that are boost and I think it could be interesting to compare the XC100S with the D7, and plus my bike at the time I bought it costed 1400€, now costs about 50€ more
To solve the dropper overshooting your riding height: install a cord/string in between your seatpost clamp and a saddle rail. Small but effective hack...
I used a shoe lace once on a borrowed bike, worked fine that day.
Oh man I'll try that out, but some of those droppers have major spring power so it should be a fun test haha
That is a GREAT idea!
Whatever anodizing process Rockshox uses on lower end forks causes the stantions to absorb oil. That's what causes the discoloration.
So strange. Glad you told me about that, learned something new
good product from Indonesia......hope i can have it
I Like this bike
Polygon makes killer bikes for the money. Amazing the current price of this bike at $1499! The D7 is a great value and the price of the bike has actually gone DOWN over the last couple of years! Minimal cost upgrades of going tubeless, changing out the pedals and grips, larger disc rotors, and the rider is ready to rock for many miles!
just realized: to people out there if you don't mind the purplish wine color on the 2021 d7 get that since it has the same components as the 2022 highlighter color d7 for 100 dollars cheaper. hundred-dollar savings can go toward some upgrades to that bike like grips saddle or pedals or something else. Evan pin or heart this comment so more people know about this
How come you never comment back when I reply to you lol
@@EvansMTBSaga different time zone and made this comment before sleeping
I just bought the polygon Siskin t7 and I am love if it
Good bike for sure!
Off course it means we have to risk your life every time we ride lol (jkjk I see cut free stumps at times and think man what if I go OTB and get emailed by one, my wife going to kill me and not let me buy another bike lol). Front wheel can use boost adapter so need need to purchase new wheel and boost spacing for front really is geared for enduro and beyond. I never noticed running boost up front from standard spacing. Unless on my DH bike. But that Recon is a solid fork regardless. And I believe it comes with internal spacers that you could take out to increase travel to 130-140mm. Super easy to do.
BTW you can use the m6100-sgs (12speed) with the M5100 casette intested it works perfectly. M5100 sgs is the long cage 11speed,but 6100 is 12 speed long cage. I am not sure what exact differences it has. Or if there is any at all.
Long cage means it can have a larger 1st gear on the cassette.
@@beerenmusli8220 I know, I am just stating that I have 12 speed version that I tested with 11 speed cassette.
next video putting all the yoinked parts to the new bike plus putting the bomber fork on the bike would help you out
The Bomber is gone with the Mythique. But I do have a real nice fork to put on it
@@EvansMTBSaga really i loved the mythique videos buti cant wait for the fork upgrade video
I just ordered one, prices went up considerably. On a 29 tire size total price plus shipping came to $2,091
Yikes
Looks like a really cool bike. Although where I live the trails are very very rocky and these wheels would just explode even the easier trails.
Haha how do you figure?
@@EvansMTBSaga even with a maxxis assagai and an agreddor both in double down casing, and with cushcore I snapped 2 alloy rear wheels this year
daaang it has risen in price
Still says $1799 for me
I own a polygon premier 5 it's pretty good but get the hubs on that adjusted they bare tight
Hey Evan, just found your channel and am enjoying it. Really digging this bike but would like to put some beefier tires on it. How much clearance is there on the frame and the fork? Do you think you could fit a 2.6” tire in there? Been looking all over and can’t find an answer to this question.
I'd say enough for a 2.4", which I plan on doing also. Glad you found the channel!
@@EvansMTBSaga Thanks man! BTW, greetings from the east valley. I was watching you on your test rides and thinking that it sure looked like home. I ride out at San Tan and Usery mostly.