Nirvana - Four Drummers Playing "School" in 1990
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- 0:04 05/06/90 - The Masquerade, Atlanta, GA
Chad Channing
2:36 08/24/90 - Moore Theatre, Seattle, WA
Dale Crover
5:02 09/22/90 - Motor Sports International Garage, Seattle, WA
Dan Peters
7:24 10/25/90 - Students' Union, Leeds Polytechnic, Leeds, UK
Dave Grohl
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Dave is a real beast but I have a lot of respect for Chad
Chad was the best Drummer in Nirvana ever!
No...no...he wasn't...
but he was a very good drummer and still is and that is a fact
Josh Martins
He was not the first... the first was Dave I don't know... Foster or Aaron Buckhard?
aaron buckhard
Channing double pedal rocks
Give me Dave's triplets all day, over double bass.
DJLONCHORADIO.CL I know I love Chad Channings Double Bass Drums
That' s true! Negative Creep and Scoff on Bleach are played with double pedal.
DJ LONCHO RADIO yea he used foot pedal better than dave the whole song
Like double pedal matters.
Channing is good, fits in many songs, but Grohl is more powerul drummer. All the "Bleach" songs by Grohl bring more power and energy to the band. Peters is also great, truly punk drummer, but Grohl also punk, but more diverse. The best for me are Dale Crover and Dave Grohl.
Not really...
One song Dave is bad...at is "Big Cheese"...
anothe song..."Scoff"...
Spot-on. All of this.
Yeah, Dan Peters was great!! People saying he sucked because he played it differently (and he fucked up the ending) - but who knows how long he had to learn the song, or many times he'd heard it.
His right hand was great anyway. "Punk drummer" is right; good solid fast right hand.
And he has a recognisable style with his fills. I didn't know his name, but you can guess he's the drummer from Mudhoney by his style.
Best example of Dave being better with the energy for me is Blew. If you listen to the studio version of Blew vs the Paramount version, you can really see just how much of a difference Dave makes from Channing. And the Live and Loud version of Blew is awesome with the drums
Chad Channing rules!
Yes. Channing composed the drums, didn't he?
yes he did, he has the undergrund sound!
He invented the cymbal.
I always thought Dave had a special relationship with the cymbals.
Sounds spicy 🌶
Amazing video. Also: Krist's bass in Leed's WOW.
Funny how people keep asking why Dale and Dan never made it in the band. Howard Stern even called Dale up! Krist said it best "We didn't want them to break up. (Melvins and Mudhoney) We love those guys. They were just helping out."
Dave have the rage needed for Nirvana
🤣
That's absolutely TRUTH.
You can tell by the intensity how Kurt loved this song, my favorite by far!
Grohl complimented them the best. His power and metronomic timing are second to none.
💯
Facts
I really like Chad Channing's drumming the most, he wasn't the most technical, but he came up with the drum patterns, and it had a really nice swing to it, almost jazzy. :)
This is an interesting comparisation. As a drummer, I would say that Dan Peters is the technically most skilled drummer of the four, his chops in mudhoney are extraordinary. But he wasn't the right fit for Nirvana, although Sliver never sounded as good when Dave Grohl played his parts. Dale Crover is another amazing drummer that plays great on the bleach-tracks where he appears but as a stand-in for for that Nirvana tour he just wasnt that good either. Chad is without a doubt the least skilled drummer of the bunch, he would never be able to take the drum seat behind the Melvins nor Mudhoney but his style fits those bleach-era songs perfect. And then there's Dave Grohl, not as skilled as Peters, nor as interesting as Crover. But he was perfect for Nirvana, I think his performance is without a doubt the best in this comparison. Just goes to show that sometimes the most technically advanced drummers aren't necessarily the best fit.
as you are someone who plays the instrument -- help me out. I find that the drummers who hit so hard, are usually sludgey, because they don't recover off the big hits. And then of course, the guys who swing it and great with light touch (which is what Channing seems like to me), don't make the song blast off as a RAWK song. That's why I like Grohl -- for me his power is undeniable -- he just blows those songs up, but he also is NOT sludgey. Things seem to skip along with him. He creates movement and he seems to feed off Kurt. Peters felt weird to me -- but to be fair -- he's a radical departure from how I've always heard the drums on this. He felt like he was playing on another song. Crover was closest to Grohl for me with power and time. But I felt Grohl edged him out with power.
Idk I feel like Dave was a bit better than dale. Idk I kinda hate dales drumming on the songs other than the three on bleach. But da. Was great Dan and chad were great but Dave was the perfect fit like you said.
@@queenanneslace5085 Dale Cover is way better than all those 3
@@maddymud power and speed. Drummers need both. Percussion is calming and cool and quick and technical slow and swampy. Or for me. My drum influences are Todd nance Wsp. Fishman. Phish. Dave. Billy from the dead. The disco biscuits have a powerhouse mix of all and trance
@@scarykurapika100yago2 he is a beast. And would have been nasty! Dave was the perfect fit in the end. Quick smart pocketed powerful and a good listener to guide
All of these drummers were great and brought something different too the table. Chad originally wrote the drum part, and he has that double bass (on one drum!) sound. Dale had a hard hitting, punishing style, which coming form the Melvins makes sense. Dan Peters played a fast, aggressive style, and you can really hear how much faster the tempo was with him at the kit. Finally, Dave is the iconic Nirvana drummer for good reason: he beat the shit out of those drums and had those amazing triplets.
betterinsodapop that is well said you have to be a drummer
Dale and Dave are my favourite drummers. Dale especially in the Melvins. ;) However, Chad must be acknowledged for Bleach and the great job he done on it. Dave hits so hard it just sounds fucking brilliant.
If I had a choice between Dale and Chad it would be Chad because of his awesome double bass drum set
With Dave, Clearly, we are on another level. Congrats, that video about nirvana is the best I have seen.
Thanks guy !!!!!!
They were all good, they all had their own uniqe charm, especially Dale Crover.
Still, Dave Grohl was the most dynamic and best one, imo.
They're all good. To me, it's probably Crover's that's the best among these, but Grohl's is strong too and you can see why Kurt chose him
well dale was also in the melvins and likely would’ve never joined full time
Kurt in a lot of cases brought up that he would have much rather went with Dale, or Dan but he was too afraid of causing any drama or removing them from their own bands so he settled with Dave
Dale Crover has that velocity in the cymbal hits that only Dave can get close too. He really is what drives melvins sound and compliments buzz perfectly as well as the heavy nirvana stuff
Kurt wasn't able to choose.
Thanks, this is so cool to hear them side by side; I liked Dale Crowders kinda bounce he added, even though it wasn’t the Nirvana sound as we know it 🍁
For a scene that had a famous shortage of drummers, Seattle had some great ones. If you take Chad, Dale, Dan, and Dave and then add Mike Mussburger, Jason Finn, and the BEAST Barrett Martin... wow! Maybe that's why they all played in six or seven bands each.
The best overall performance, in terms of energy and enthusiasm, goes to the Motor Sports gig with Danny Peters. That entire set is easily in the top 5 Nirvana shows of all time (in my book).
Best bass sound goes to the earlier show with Chad. Best drumming (of the shows featured) goes to Dale Crover, although the sound quality of that particular recording is unfortunately poor.
Dave Grohl delivers a mighty performance, as always, and although the Leeds gig featured here isn't one of my personal favorites, there are other performances, such as the Off Ramp in Seattle in late 1990, that far outshine Dale's efforts. Dave seemed to "click" with Kurt and Krist better than any of the previous drummers.
+TestMeatDollSteak perfectly said, with each point, couldn't agree more! damn, they had amazing energy between mid-90 and mid-91
Kurt was looking for a drummer, cause Dale was only filling in. Too busy with the Melvins. The Melvins was Kurt's favorite band. It was actually King Buzzo that introduced Dave Grohl to Kurt Cobain.
I agree with exactly everything you said!!!
Fuck me. You know your shit. Best drumming performance out of these four was Dale Crover.
Loved the Dan Peters show, amazing. Now we know why he may have been fired as well - he ended the song one bar too early! Love every single one of these four drummers. Fuck me. They did. With passion.
Dave loses his left hand stick near the end of the solo lol
dave grohl on high level
I was at the Motor Sports Garage show 30 years ago yesterday. Holy shit time flies.
Wow! I used to go to the Masquerade in the 90s!
Wherever you are now, Kurt, I sure fukken hope it's not in high school again.
Dave Grohl ofc he is the best!
Girl, we couldn't get much better!!
Come on baby bite my wire
This was the video I needed. Thanks for posting!
Dan Peters: That snare, at least in this recording, sounds almost like a piccolo to me. My least favorite sound in the world. I found that version distracting and I felt like it sped up noticeably?
Chad's: Stilted. Maybe stiff? For such a funky, riffy song, there's not a lot of feel going on...at that particular show, at least.
my dad was at that exact show in the first clip! when i asked him for a nirvana poster to put on my wall he took out a picture of him and krist and asked i wanted that to put on my wall!
Chad is the only one original (and the best in my opinion). Dave made it sound little heavier I guess.
Dave placed gasoline on Nirvana.
SalDOWN technically the original was Aaron Burkhardt
I think it was something like Dale Crover, Dave Foster, Aaron Burkhardt, Chad Channing, Dale Crover, Dan Peters and Dave Grohl. Of them, Dale Crover, Dave Foster and Dave Grohl were the beatiest drummers while Chad was the melodic and creative glue that kept the band together while the three member band rose to stardom.
thesweatleaf
Aaron Burkhard - 1987
Dale Crover - 1988
Dave Foster - 1988
Chad Channing - 1988-1990
Dale Crover - 1990
Dan Peters - 1990
Dave Grohl - 1990-1994
@@IntellitechStudios Yep.
Love 💘, but Dave has my heart. 🥰🥁🎶
Damn Cur, I dont know what to say for you anymore that I havent said before...youre AWESOME and where the f... do you get this stuff from!!(just a retorical one). Keep on being Nirvana superfan, this place wouldnt be the same without you. Honest to God
Chad canning is so amazing drummer
Dave all the way!!
dave still the best drummer nirvana, u can hear beat when he played
Dan Peters had amazing energy
I have to admit, Danny Peters did the most energetic version of all abowe
Novoselic's A string tuned half step down in the last version
Oh classic Kurt voice at the Dale Crover show as Stipe said THAT voice.
Dale Crover all the way. Good timing and sounds great.
Dave is just a beast
Chad Channing (Santa Rosa, California; 31 de enero de 1967) es un músico estadounidense, especialmente conocido por haber sido baterista del grupo Nirvana hasta 1990 (fue sustituido por Dan Peters y luego por Dave Grohl).
I remember September 22 1990 really well was my 10th birthday hung out with my dad. I got a kids science kit with a real scalpel a bitchin red microsope and a dead bee floating in formaldehyde to dissect-kinda fitting- Kurt really dug stuff like that he would have loved it. No I didnt know Nirvana they would be kind of popular about a year later.Could you imagine a kid getting a set like that now no chance in hell.
Oh man, we were so lucky. I had a chemistry set with 20-30 different chemicals in test tubes, beakers, bunsen burner, the whole deal.
It was great!! I did blow stuff up a few times and stained the ceiling and walls of the dining room.... but man it was great.
Not sure if you can even get cap guns anymore... Poor kids today.
(Also, Nirvana).
Watching them with all their energy quickly reminds me how old and arthritic I really am--LOL
Dale. Of course Dale. Dale at the height of his career. Keeps the groove so steady. Dave envied Dale back then.
Dale Crover was without a doubt the best drummer Nirvana ever had!
could you see how the crowd reacted when Dave was there? Dave Grohl is awesome. But Dale was good, too!
Kurt really loves him so much.
kodakflack yes
No
Dale on if you must is great
I don't care what anyone says all are great. Personally Dan's is my favorite but, I love Chad Channing, he has insane double bass and Dale Crover is also very unique. And of course Dave is the most talented
Dale is far more technical and hard hitting imo. Listen to songs like “Aero Zeppelin” Dale was for sure the most powerful yet Nirvana was unable to keep him do to his status of being in The Melvins
@@smarkmalark technical I guess but not hard hitting that’s Grohl hands down listen aneurysm
Dave is so strong!
***** No me he dado el tiempo de comparar varias versiones de School para opinar cuál sería la mejor en mi punto de vista :(. Pero Roseland Ballroom 07/23/93 es uno de mis conciertos favoritos, tengo hasta un bootleg completo de ese concierto en mi colección. :D
all wrong... DALE CROVER #1 and from who everybody learnt
METZ ZTEM you know
Damn, Dan is Fast and powerful :0
But doesn't fit
@@pabloconchetumare1753 exactly
He would fit great if he had time to learn the songs.
Chad's is the best because he compliments the main riff but doesn't overpower it. You want to hear the guitars on this one.
DAVE IS THE BEAST!!!!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼
I like chad's style with the double pedal.
Que show irado !
Com a verdadeira essência underground do Nirvana ... bem agitado !
NIRVANA FOREVER !
All sound good
Chad & Dave (not just because best known) crisp tight styles
Just a average drummer’s opinion here, for me and I’m sure it’s like this for many of you out there as well-what was recorded on the record is set in stone. It’s the bible of that song, and it should in most respects be played how it was recorded. That’s just my opinion when it comes to Bleach. I think Chad fucking nailed his drum parts, including all of that sporadic double bass on the record. No disrespect to Dave-he’s a great musician and helped Nirvana become a massive band, but if there’s a Bleach song playing, I want to hear Chad’s drumming on that song. Sometimes Dave is just too loud for me, like here, all I heard was “crash crash crash crash crash whoah nice fill during the chorus crash crash crash snare roll crash crash.”
Dale 👍
Dale. he is a beast. And would have been nasty and heavy ! Dave was the perfect fit in the end. Quick and smart and in the pocket with powerful stuff and use of the ride symbol for the tempo and then almost as a open crash at times that is loud and sharp a good listener to guide depending on the party and kurts vibes and hear the grooves and then nail the tunes with improvisation abilities that is always alive feeling. Dale is the best drummer in the mix. He was more of a player and professional leagues and more than Nirvana needed creatively. It would have pushed kurt to expand his own playing.
Edit. Imo.
So Dave gets the price and got it.
it's a win, win with either dale or dave. Dan and Chad are still more than decent enough
I thinking so, that's two people almost antitalent!
Dave all day
Chad is realy good on drums ❤️❤️❤️❤️🎸🧍♂️🧍♂️🧍♂️🎸🎸
The clearest playing, the best dynamics, even in the audio quality that was given in this video, the best is Dave Grohl ... 💀🎶
I fucking love Adam Peters version of School. It’s extremely different from every other incarnation and I wish we got a higher quality recording of it
Don't you mean Dan Peters?
Dave had the luxury of making 3 previous takes his own.
Man, Dale Crover's drumming really suits this song!
Dan Peters got the best sound!
too much snare i think
Totally disagree...tunes his snare really tight, sounds way too bright imho
was the worst, he played totally wrong and even made a mistake in the end hahaha terrible
Giselle Kasper Me gusta toda las canciones de nirvana exelente soy una fanatica.
Realidad Falsa Falsa Realidad stfu immigrant
is that first guitar an Aria? sounds massive
CHAD CHANNING
31 DE ENERO DE 1967
55 AÑOS. (56) (57)
EX BATERISTA DE NIRVANA
Interesting idea to do this comparison. Dave being the heavy hitter he always was and is, is the best choice of course. Plus his goddamn energy and charisma. But theyre all great. I liked Dan Peters' drumming actually though some here didnt. But all were great. Hit em hard !
Dan Peters is playing it so wrong its not even funny
The Wedge it almost hurts
Yeah
Sorry 😐 I’m lmao at this comment you couldn’t really hear it
sounds like nu metal nirvana
Kurt actually loved his style
Dale Crover is one of the most under rated grunge & metal drummers of all time. Good pounding beats, double bass, speed, timing! Go listen to him with the Melvins. Dave fit Nirvana the best but Chad still could have down fine with Nirvana. Dan Peters is under rated also, good snare player just go listen to him in Mudhoney.
I've never been a fan of Chad Channing's playing. Especially the double-kick stuff...and the hi-hats never open enough!
I'm glad he's immortalised on bleach. He's forever tied to those songs and he definitely did them justice.
But I just don't dig his style, to the point that it's distracting.
Dave Grohl's playing in this vid is actually not that great, imo, but he's usually a lot better. And just flows and organically fits the music better.
Have to say I have a lot of time for Dan Peters version. I really like Mudhoney anyway, and he really gave it some gas but maybe a bit too punky. And he stopped playing before the song was over lol.
And as a side note: He was perfect on Sliver, and by the time he went back to Mudhoney for EGBDF he was well prepared for that kind of music.
All I know is that I would be more than grateful for any of them drumming in my band
Leeds: more bass in the wedges please wtf key were you in Krist?
For me all the players were very good at the time. But Dave Grohl was more chaotic, aggressive, noisy, but at the same time, melodic. No doubts for me, was the best choice!
Dave is the drum machine from Nirvana!
Voted for Dave Grohl
channing the best
What kind of guitar did kurts playd? A gibson?
What a fucking song!
You just know when Dave Grohl hits that cymbal it is over for any other drummer that played this song. Nirvana is pure energy and dynamics and Dave Grohl is one of the greatest at that kind of drumming. Chops aren't worth shit. It is all about feel and intensity in this style of music, and there has never been a drummer in Nirvana that is as good as those things as Dave Grohl.
Eeeh
Dale Crover played it the best
Chad!
I'd like a reunion video of every guy who stood beside Kurt on stage playing air guitar and just plain embarrassing themselves before diving into the crowd. It'd be countless
chad wsnt too bad
Dave Wins
Dan is very fast! Lol... but Dave... the man! The best
I appreciate the effort, but the audio quality is so bad, it is hard to say what is going on.
Kind of a trip to see Peters playing with nirvana after seeing him in Oakland with mudhoney... (in which a girl dislocates her knee, by the way, video on my page if you're at all interested)
Dan Peters was a monster
Dan Peter's rushed so much you can tell Kurt tries to keep up ,wish there was a better video of Dale cause it sounds muddy and staticy
I agree and it's also to do with Crovers drum sound not cutting through, wish he'd crank the snare like Grohl to penetrate Cobain's wall of guitar!
Chad and dave
dan peters sound bery good
Kurt only asked Chad to leave the band cause he wanted to be the shorter.
I just loved the ladder effect on the photos...
Dale Crover is the best among them. If only they had a better clearer footage of him with Nirvana
My ranking would be:
1. Channing
2. Grohl
3. Crover
4. Peters
WHERE IS AARON BURCKHARD ????
And Dave Foster?