The Polehammer Problem - Chivalry 2

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 227

  • @Ziggylata
    @Ziggylata  Рік тому +46

    There are some black frames during some transitions in this video due to a bug with Davinci Resolve's rendering mode. This shouldn't happen again, but apologies for it regardless.

    • @TheHuffur
      @TheHuffur Рік тому

      I will never forgive you for this and I would never comment so the algorithm gods sees it as people engaging with the video! You scoundrel!

    • @krieger8825
      @krieger8825 4 місяці тому

      From what I know, halberds were usually shorter than poleaxes/hammers but made it up with a much longer spearhead so knights could fight without the other side being able to even reach them because the thing basically acted like a pike wall when theyre clumping up

  • @BreegullEagle
    @BreegullEagle Рік тому +130

    Polehammer was the first weapon I really clicked with when the game first came out. Let's hope it gets that buff soon

    • @rileyschwarting
      @rileyschwarting Рік тому +1

      Same, it’s by far my most used weapon I just love the way it feels

    • @indiomoustafa2047
      @indiomoustafa2047 Рік тому

      Same, but I quickly started using other blunt weapons.
      Its still great, but it needs something special. Maybe bring the stab damage up a little bit.

    • @Guy_on_Youtube
      @Guy_on_Youtube Рік тому

      Same!

  • @Mr.Ford3350
    @Mr.Ford3350 Рік тому +17

    I love the polehammer very much and I appreciate you making a video about its shortcomings. It may not be the "best" polearm, but the way it performs against knights in team objective matches (of which each team is probably >50% knights) makes me think twice before swapping over to a halberd instead.
    Not to mention how satisfying it feels to crunch a knight with a special attack. Assuming they survive it, you can definitely bet they'll swing around holding block to face you, so landing the follow-up kick is practically a guarantee.

  • @SuperCrow02
    @SuperCrow02 Рік тому +8

    PolehammerSupremacy will find you and your family

  • @unknown_username__
    @unknown_username__ Рік тому +161

    # SavePolehammerNerfMesserMore

    • @Zeptoid
      @Zeptoid Рік тому +18

      Frick Messer
      All my homies hate messer

    • @Mr_War_
      @Mr_War_ Рік тому +11

      idk man sounds like you want another messer buff man
      i hate the messer

    • @spam_info
      @spam_info Рік тому +2

      What’s wrong with messed, I say nerf archer

    • @armintor2826
      @armintor2826 Рік тому +8

      #messupmesser

    • @WretchedRedoran
      @WretchedRedoran Рік тому +13

      ​@@spam_infoNonono, you don't get it, the Messer is taking away all the hate that archers are supposed to be getting

  • @Slyslug
    @Slyslug Рік тому +6

    I wish this was "the flail is too epic" but alas, someday

  • @alekid2086
    @alekid2086 Рік тому +24

    Several things
    1. The polehammer is very fast. It starts it's hitbox very early and you can get some insane accels with it.
    2. It's recovery time is second only to highland sword. Missing a heavy against a duelist is a free hit for them.
    3. This is not a problem for experienced players but the counter window is quite short and your attacks drain a lot of stamina. Most noobs using it are gonna get disarmed because they can't counter.
    4. They NEED to fix ph's hitbox. I can still execute handle hits after the update and they have introduced multiple strange techs you can pull off in duels. Half the time its overhead will miss hitting anyone from the waist down and spinning while doing an overhead will just go straight through people.
    Polehammer is the only weapon I can claim as my own in duels. Playing TO with it I just realise that there are better weapon to use.

  • @deadliestcholo
    @deadliestcholo Рік тому +38

    8:23 After Ziggylata says "sound effects" does anybody else hear the metal pole dropping sound effect very faintly in the background? or is that just me?

  • @Unorthodox2049
    @Unorthodox2049 Рік тому +13

    100%Agree on the lightstab idea. It doing 40vs vanguards just feels terrible honestly. But I would prefer a 5 dmg buff to the heavy stab as well instead of making the overhead even stronger maybe
    The polehammer is already mostly an overhead machine and I prefer weapons with a less polarized dmg spread

    • @WhatsY0UTUB3
      @WhatsY0UTUB3 Рік тому +5

      u want all weapons to play the same?

  • @notisac3149
    @notisac3149 Рік тому +5

    The attacks stopping is both a blessing and a curse to me, it's great in formations and working together with your teammates to prevent teamkills. However, the Halberd is amazing at hitting the greatest amount of foes in one sweeping strike. In tight elbow to elbow fighting I prefer the pole hammer, but out in the open I excel at using the halberd.

  • @matthewholland3184
    @matthewholland3184 Рік тому +4

    None of this will matter when they give us the Pole-shovel.

  • @mopyrshu2617
    @mopyrshu2617 Рік тому +1

    0:35 what a good timing, he said damn, when in chat write damn

  • @diegozimermann6114
    @diegozimermann6114 Рік тому +3

    Personally, i’ve always used polehammer a lot cuz
    1. Lucerne is gorgeous
    2. The sound she makes when special-bonking a crusader on the back of the head is just dopamine.
    So yeah, pretty objective reasons 😅
    Thx for the content Ziggy ! Shoutout from brazil

  • @Delphic_Wendigo
    @Delphic_Wendigo Рік тому +1

    "The Polehammer Problem"
    -takes on and kills like 3 guys in the first 30 seconds-

  • @CaptTragedy
    @CaptTragedy Рік тому +2

    Well thought out and in depth video about the ol pool hammer. Appreciate these videos Ziggy, keep up the good work! 👍

  • @DRGEngineer
    @DRGEngineer Рік тому +2

    hey Ziggy! relatively new to the channel but I've been around for a month or two and I've really enjoyed your content and have gone back to watch some your older stuff too. i jus wanna say that I really really like this kinda of video and finding Chivalry 2 creators who still upload that make high quality content has been a challenge in my experience. i love more analytical videos that open discussion around the game and I'd really like to see more videos in this style in the future. it raises good questions about the game balance and im sure it's gonna spark alot of conversation in the community. (especially with the 'polehammer op' crowd). of course I don't expect something as well thought out and put together as this every upload but I'd love to see more videos like this in the future. loved hearing what you have to think 👍

  • @ticket2heavenn
    @ticket2heavenn Рік тому +1

    Man I'm glad someone's finally talking about this. I feel the same way about some of the smaller weapons.

  • @JonathArn1655
    @JonathArn1655 Рік тому +2

    In the end it depends on how you like the weapon yourself and how you feel with it, which I think has a big impact too, that's why I love Greatsword and Helbard and hate one handers

  • @iKennectz
    @iKennectz Рік тому +1

    tbh all the polearm weapons have borked animations... gotta love they way they change from left hand to right hand weapon side by dematerializing their hands on the shaft and passing them right through each other while they somehow spin themselves and typically end up hitting people after travelling the tip of the weapon through the earth itself

  • @ElYoinked
    @ElYoinked Рік тому +2

    I love PH, but I definitely noticed that I used it less and less after halberd was buffed. I’ve also found myself using heavy mace as my go to blunt weapon because I love how fast heavy drags during combos are. PH definitely has a lot of style factor though, and that tends to be the only reason why I seldom go back to it from time to time. This video however has sparked my need to return to PH, thank you

  • @joske2838
    @joske2838 Рік тому +1

    i love it when i pick up a polehammer while on Devastator class, reminds me of chiv 1 when vanguard had the polearms.

  • @Josukegaming
    @Josukegaming 6 місяців тому +1

    This was really well edited and thought out! Great job : )

  • @drivernephi7494
    @drivernephi7494 Рік тому +1

    The polehammer is a overhead throwing machine with love it

  • @_Im_You
    @_Im_You Рік тому +1

    Just yesterday I started and I’m really liking the game just today I found your channel and already subbed, nice content!

  • @dialectiks
    @dialectiks Рік тому +2

    In the blunt weapon comparison you forgot the strongest weapon in the game
    THE WAR CLUB

  • @sirpuffball6366
    @sirpuffball6366 Рік тому +1

    I've found Polehammer's niche is in its really weird accels in dueling. they land a split second before it looks like they should and it really throws people off

  • @BasketMan65
    @BasketMan65 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for being fucking great at the game and A NICE GUY AB IT!❤ also thank your for giving a great insider pov, I'm gonna really pay attention to what you do and talk ab so I may also improve!

  • @AnusSniffer69
    @AnusSniffer69 Рік тому +32

    The pole axe has always been my favorite underrated weapon. I was so stoked when it got buffed a little while back. It’s so fun using the special attack, especially in TO. Nobody sees it coming.

    • @indiomoustafa2047
      @indiomoustafa2047 Рік тому +6

      Yeah the pole axe has a great special animation, its like the war club where it kind of looks like a heavy overhead until you lunge forward a little further and deliver that big crunchy hit.

    • @The_uglybastard
      @The_uglybastard Рік тому

      Poleaxe Superiority. Its a great duel and team weapon. The alt mode gets people completely out of guard esp in team fights

  • @b-bit5342
    @b-bit5342 Рік тому +1

    pro tip: on the map the breach of boudwin the lead cart is a resupply but it doesn’t have a symbol or sound

  • @AbyssalPlague
    @AbyssalPlague Рік тому +1

    The little boxes lie, I swear.

  • @ironashi3485
    @ironashi3485 11 місяців тому +1

    Never knew there was pros n cons, just thought it was fun to bonk people while looking like a peasant

  • @bigboi1004
    @bigboi1004 Рік тому +1

    Yeah u make some good points but can we all appreciate the majesty of the background footage at 6:45? lmao

  • @therealjordiano
    @therealjordiano Рік тому +7

    I wanna contest that the halberd update which increased the dmg by +5 points to all those attacks actually made it one of the best weapons. It was probably always that good, but people weren't aware of it at the time

  • @godderific6443
    @godderific6443 Рік тому +1

    >Ignores glaive

  • @wesleystelzer6215
    @wesleystelzer6215 Рік тому +2

    The reason I’d choose polehammer over halberd is if the entire enemy team consisted of knights and footmen. If most of the enemy team was vanguard, I’d choose halberd

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому

      But Halberd is basically as good against those classes.

  • @LaVolpeGameReview
    @LaVolpeGameReview Рік тому +2

    i play this game to hit people with brooms, frying pans and throwing turds at people in deathmatch maps, honestly i'm not that bothered with weapons that much, honestly i could care less, but i can see a point in variation and i can agree with it since i play poleman a lot.

  • @HAMRADIO-w3g
    @HAMRADIO-w3g Рік тому +3

    Yes, finally he posts.

  • @Carsondaddy
    @Carsondaddy Рік тому +1

    well thought out and explained recommendations to fine tune the pole hammer rather than a heavy handed +5 all damage buff

  • @AMainProductions
    @AMainProductions Рік тому +1

    Hey ziggy or anyone that knows , why do you always keep your shield on your back when using the rapier?

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому +1

      Move faster, blocks projectiles, doesn't break in your hand and get you killed

  • @SolFireYT
    @SolFireYT Рік тому +1

    Was the text scrolling slower when you had more to say on a point? Cause that looked kinda cool

  • @carroboi2981
    @carroboi2981 Рік тому +1

    Considering the polehammer is my favorite weapon in medieval history, I will use it whether it was trash or just a little mediocre. I'm not qualified to say how it could or could not be buffed either way.

  • @F4Lskating
    @F4Lskating Рік тому +1

    Doesnt matter what weapon i carry i will still get asspacked by a messer or pole hammer 😂

  • @88Spint
    @88Spint Рік тому +1

    My fav weapon, which is always portrayed in game as garbage compared to a 2h sword. It's always shown as a passable weapon but never ever shown to be the powerhouse of an armor killer that it was.

  • @vermazing888
    @vermazing888 Рік тому +1

    The Halberd is God’s weapon

  • @believeinmatter
    @believeinmatter Рік тому +2

    I haven’t played this game in a long time, is it worth jumping back in sometime soon?

    • @MachetePanda-f1m
      @MachetePanda-f1m Рік тому

      Very. It fills a craving I get

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому +1

      Not until they fix the shit that stops people from playing the game.

  • @DogSoldier0351
    @DogSoldier0351 Рік тому +1

    Awesome job Zig..great info.

  • @vinnani_
    @vinnani_ Рік тому +1

    2:45 what to you mean by that? Are those attribute meters often inaccurate?

    • @jacoby6000
      @jacoby6000 Рік тому +2

      Very inaccurate. It's one of the reasons we made the site mentioned earlier in the video. Would've been a good chance to point out that you can see correct values on the site.

  • @ImperialGit
    @ImperialGit Рік тому +1

    Don't touch my halberd! >:( :P

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому

      It's actually MY halberd because I was the first halberd main in this entire videogame.

  • @averageGoat_meh_eh_eh_eh
    @averageGoat_meh_eh_eh_eh 6 місяців тому +1

    Pole Axe is crazy

  • @lorenzolai992
    @lorenzolai992 Рік тому +1

    Very well put

  • @SeasickKhan
    @SeasickKhan Рік тому +5

    That wasn’t just awesome. It was a beautiful work of art. And the archer finish…Too nice!

  • @joshhennick2509
    @joshhennick2509 Рік тому

    Polehammer is absolutely fine where it is.

  • @joseph.6768
    @joseph.6768 Рік тому +1

    I played it less than a month ago and wow fell in love (like some other weapons) with this weapon, maybe more than I should have 😂

    • @joseph.6768
      @joseph.6768 Рік тому

      And maybe weirdly, I prefered it to the halberd
      Glaive was nice too 😊

  • @cokeMONSTERps3
    @cokeMONSTERps3 Рік тому +1

    Seems reasonable.

  • @jjb2384
    @jjb2384 Рік тому +1

    This game looks like great fun, wish i could play this game on console without sending my head through my desk everytime i stutter. Starting to get headaches...

  • @dubbeking
    @dubbeking Рік тому +1

    Was that a subtle metal pipe falling sound at 8:24?

  • @Fellow_Moth
    @Fellow_Moth Рік тому

    I'm a duelist who mains the pole axe. I use alot of pole arms and im now becoming intrigued with using the polehammer. However, now I'm debating what i should main between the pole axe and pole hammer. Do note that my PA is lvl 105 and my PH is about lvl 10 (i haven't used it much). But now that I've watched this video i need some recommendations from the viewers of this comment. I dont want to hear that i need to lvl up the PH, i know i need to do that. I just want opinions on which one is better.

  • @meganobgutzkraka2398
    @meganobgutzkraka2398 Рік тому +1

    yknow what? yeah i think it needs a buff, i love the idea of it being a SIDE GRADE! even if it was more in line with a "1v1 knight killing weapon", sure that hurt's it's reach in team fights, but the weapon already has the losest reach of the pole arms for Footman... i don't think all of it's damage needs a buff, only a bit to possibly out do the halberd to counter hitstop nad even further prioritize knight killing.

  • @Bombingham
    @Bombingham Рік тому +2

    What would you say is the best 2h blunt weapon?

    • @Chadules
      @Chadules Рік тому +1

      Maul. It’s a meme, and completely dumps on people.

    • @Cinnamon-Toast
      @Cinnamon-Toast Рік тому +2

      Shovel 10/10

    • @Chadules
      @Chadules Рік тому

      @@Cinnamon-Toast shovel cause funny hits go ping pang pong

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому +1

      Heavy mace.

    • @Bombingham
      @Bombingham Рік тому +1

      ok maul and heavy mace, bonking time

  • @cannons4789
    @cannons4789 Рік тому +1

    Ziggy, what would you say is worse, the polehammer or the executioner's axe?

  • @shanefarmer805
    @shanefarmer805 Рік тому +1

    My favorite chilvary player of all time

  • @TheSpearman-vt3nb
    @TheSpearman-vt3nb Рік тому +2

    this dude is a wizard. i would be happy to even hit this guy.

  • @Vekku36
    @Vekku36 Рік тому +1

    What about poleaxe Is It any good?

  • @showyash
    @showyash Рік тому +5

    Leader of the community right here. Keep em coming Ziggy.

  • @ryanbaker2762
    @ryanbaker2762 Рік тому +2

    i love the polehammer but i do feel like it just gets out classed a lot

  • @calebpittman982
    @calebpittman982 Рік тому +1

    Just started playing this it hard

  • @RealityYxXx
    @RealityYxXx Рік тому

    I'm new here, I like how you play please more videos. 💪🏼

  • @pierosalvagni
    @pierosalvagni Рік тому +1

    I always use double sword with ambusher class fast and deadly.Really sweet

    • @LispyJesus
      @LispyJesus Рік тому

      The Qatar’s? Those are pretty much universally accepted as the weakest weapon.

    • @pierosalvagni
      @pierosalvagni Рік тому

      @@LispyJesus no double swords the short ones
      I forgot how they were called

  • @Nikolas5842
    @Nikolas5842 Рік тому +1

    The Polehammer problem is that... it's not halberd 🙃

  • @kev_sen
    @kev_sen Рік тому +1

    I use the poleaxe alot and the accels on the short range left swing are very fast.

  • @ferntin4479
    @ferntin4479 Рік тому +1

    Great video.

  • @Old.RedFox
    @Old.RedFox Рік тому +1

    I watch so many videos such as this, studying the game, and slowly improving my game, but they mean nothing when I am encountering cheats on a regular basis. Players who move faster, soak up damage etc. Europe seems particularly bad. It is so frustrating.

  • @trailoffiends
    @trailoffiends Рік тому

    Dual Dane Axe level 166 here, I have noticed that I have been dying more at the hands of Halberd users, although Executioner Axes for some reason seem to be equally efficient as a Dane Axe on speed (one day i'll have to check that out). This video came out with the right timing. Some long range weapons are illusive of how fast they can be as a mid range such as a Dane Axe. By the time I see my Dane Axe into the enemy character, his Halberd, Executioner Axe, Longsword and maybe others I am forgetting hit me faster. For a relatively new player I am trying to figure out what are the actual differences in that regard because anim wise it doesn't match what I am seeing and I am making a lot of non visual mistakes because of that.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому +1

      I would say to maybe slow down your gameplay a bit more and relax, that might help, but it's hard to help with what you're asking.

  • @daymonduncan4181
    @daymonduncan4181 Рік тому +1

    I agree I have been playing footman in to and duels and I have noticed that the halber does greatly better even the animations polehammer is easy to counter versus the janky animation of the halber

    • @daymonduncan4181
      @daymonduncan4181 Рік тому

      And also I believe people doesn’t notice how animations in this game have changed a lot of weapons like the messer overhead to stab animation or even the accel on the overhead with the greatsword

  • @spooky8662
    @spooky8662 Рік тому +1

    Yay I love this content

  • @TheBand234
    @TheBand234 Рік тому +1

    do u think glaive is in a good spot? i love using it but i always feel like if i was using a dane axe it would just be better

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому +1

      I think it does what it does very well. I wouldn't buff it.

    • @TheBand234
      @TheBand234 Рік тому

      @@Ziggylata thanks, u think your year old vid is still pretty accurate about this weapon then or any tips i might wanna know?

  • @TheRealKiRBEY
    @TheRealKiRBEY Рік тому +1

    Very cool

  • @Vlad_-_-_
    @Vlad_-_-_ Рік тому +1

    The only thing pole hammer ( and pole axe ) really need is not having such garbage range on the slashes. If the slashes would have the same range as the overhead on both, I feel like they would be perfect. Pole axe I had a garbage time with last week, untill I started playing around the overhead and stab. But in TO you really feel that short range sometimes.

    • @jacoby6000
      @jacoby6000 Рік тому

      Slash is pretty close to overhead range (like 6% difference)
      Alt slash range is extremely stubby though.

    • @spencersecrest6001
      @spencersecrest6001 Рік тому

      Because that's how your supposed to use it

  • @Verixz-mz4zj
    @Verixz-mz4zj Рік тому +1

    My favorite Footman main 🥰

  • @Chris-ey8zf
    @Chris-ey8zf Рік тому +1

    I love the polehammer. I just hate the class. I pick up polehammers though from dead opponents whenever I can. Change the weapon class that can use polehammer and it would be more popular.

  • @feythepotatofox4558
    @feythepotatofox4558 Рік тому +2

    Polehammer should be buffed but the game's servers should be buffed first

  • @saskue357
    @saskue357 Рік тому +1

    My socks are purple :)

  • @CaptGengar
    @CaptGengar Рік тому +1

    I think just a +5 to the light stab should be enough

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому

      Me too, but it's fine to suggest the whole package. They'll decide on their own what they want.

  • @jdim4628
    @jdim4628 Рік тому +1

    This mf tried to sneak the pipe dripping sound effect past us

  • @krazyking3607
    @krazyking3607 Рік тому

    Pole hammer could use a little extra range or extra stamina drain to enemies while using less stamina with it's special. I usually play footman and he does dash forward a little on his special and it does great as a support class with it's stamina drain from it's special great for opening up those pro turtles lol

  • @danielwhitman2255
    @danielwhitman2255 Рік тому +1

    Stabbing is so broken some weapons that arent pointy have the same damage as pointy ended weapons

  • @aidansturma4944
    @aidansturma4944 11 місяців тому +2

    Paid actors in the background gameplay i stg lol

  • @ThatMS
    @ThatMS Рік тому +2

    Im not wearing socks

  • @lyhn9849
    @lyhn9849 Рік тому +1

    Halberd have everything that polehammer have but with a better range and slasher 😢

  • @MikeP5830
    @MikeP5830 Рік тому +1

    gotta be honest the first time i used the polehammer i didnt like it

  • @TheTimbs_
    @TheTimbs_ Рік тому +1

    I’m still using the maul over this

  • @Daniel_Brackley
    @Daniel_Brackley Рік тому +1

    Yee, a new vibeo

  • @SuperAwesomeHobo
    @SuperAwesomeHobo Рік тому +2

    Which weapons are available to what classes is completely meaningless. The map is drowning at all times with any weapon you could want. I always play Guardian with short spear, I probably have 20 kills with it in my entire Chiv career

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому

      It's not completely meaningless.

  • @dadasupreme214
    @dadasupreme214 Рік тому +1

    Why buff Polehammer when you can nerf the 2 S tier weapons, Spear and Halberd. Most logical solution imo

  • @Gattiius
    @Gattiius Рік тому +1

    Ziggy can we get a epic gamer compilation with iron maiden's song the trooper playing in the background 🥺

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  Рік тому

      Sounds like a copyright issue to me.

  • @emersoncaito9550
    @emersoncaito9550 Рік тому +2

    👍 from 👉🇧🇷 ❤ Ziggylata
    Tchemp 🤺

  • @history7501
    @history7501 Рік тому +1

    Falchion=best sword

  • @wealthybone2990
    @wealthybone2990 Рік тому +1

    Really? Didn't even think the Polehammer had a problem I found it better than the Halbred and Spear especially against like knights but I guess after watching this it does seem to have some issues but really how problematic is it? I barely recognize it and allso I wouldn't say the spear is that easy to use I think it's rather hard to use especially that it can only thrust and not have side attacks.

  • @paulgastelum2143
    @paulgastelum2143 Рік тому +1

    Love polehammer

  • @kermitfrog7677
    @kermitfrog7677 Рік тому +1

    Lucernce supremacy!