We did our master bath about 6 months ago. It took time, but i brought it from the 1980’s to the 2020s! Did everything ourselves (hubby did the shim work- original shower as off plumb by about 3 inches!) and i did all the floor demo, installing the hardibacker, and the tiling and painting. All I have left to do is crown molding, and that will go in, in the spring. I’m doing the laundry room floor now, and the hall bath next week. I watched your vids closely to know how to do stuff. Thanks! (Fwiw, I am 68 and female, so one is never too old to learn!) East TN
Cath, you are clearly a bad***. At 66 I wish I could keep up with you, but I’m barely stumbling through cement board installation myself. I’ll learn. 😅 Hope yours turned out great.
Hello!! I know you probably won’t see this comment but if you do I just want to tell you how grateful I am to have found your channel. I bought my first house this year it was built in 1947 what sold me on my home was the 10 acres and the potential the house had for our 6 children. With 6 children come many many expenses and my boyfriend and myself both work in the oil industry and we are both college students soo we are always tight on money your channel has made our home renovation possible. Thank you for doing this and thank you for giving us the confidence to renovate our home ourselves. We are deeply grateful and appreciate all the videos!!!
I remodel homes for a side business, I know, I'm nuts but I enjoy the work and the money. I can do a little bit of it all. By trade I am a master plumber, on my first Reno years ago I tried my hand at ceramic tile, made plenty of mistakes. The job you are doing here is of quality and you just don't see that anymore. The only difference on my showers is I pour my own pan. People, watch this guy he knows what he is doing.
Was waiting for the cement board after watching 5 vids - in Australia, we only use cement board for wet areas. and shower waterproofing code is - fiberglass epoxy best stuff we got, will last over a lifetime $750. the roll-on membrane $450 - has lasted over 35 years so far no leaking at all best with acrylic primer, throw fine dry sand after the last wet coat of membrane dries, for the tile glue to bond. like your vids...
THANK YOU! This is exactly what my wife nad I needed to have the confidence to use the cement board and liquid membrane. I really appreciate your videos and your comment about homeowners being the best general contractor. We have surely found this to be true. Yes, professionals may have developed skills over the years but also they are trying to make as much money on the job as they can - that makes for speed and short cuts. Nobody cares more than we do in building our own home so we will take the time, use the best materials we can and do our best work.
I've had the 20 volt version of that Dewalt circular saw for over a year now, and watching this video a second time I just noticed Jeff pressing a thing to lock the blade to change it. I've just been holding onto my blade itself to undo the bolt. Grr.
I'm in California, I use to do cement beds for years but I have changes to 1/2" cement board and Schluder. I have never had a call back and I've been doing it since 1964. Retired now but still working on my homes and I like the ease of the cement board and Schluder; I have used Red Guard and have never had any problems . Going to try the stuff you used, I don't need it to last 50 years I'm 73 and don't expect to be around that long. Let the next guy use some new product .Thanks for your videos, I like them allot.
I like the roll on membranes like mapeis versus schluter Kerdi. To much build up and tedious application of Kerdi band in corners. Kerdi over cement board is silly imho, just do a roll on. Easier and cheaper.
Peter D NEVER EVER EVER let someone talk you into a hot mop installation. I make good money in Central CA working behind contractors that did a hot mop. It’ll fail, you’ll have mushy tile and that’s the least of your worries if the shower is in a second story.
thank you so much. i just started working at Feldman lumber in new york and the guy who got me the job told me to start watching your videos and man i want to thank you alot for your help. your videos helped me and are helping me learn more and more about what i do.
It's always refreshing to watch a diy video from someone that is relaxed and doesn't have a hard line on this way or that way to things. Reminds me of old school "This Old House" with Bob Villa. You've helped me so much.
Jeff, I live in Arizona. I used red guard on cement board, worked very good. You’ll need to have lots of air circulation or better yet a respirator while using this product, one can get overcome from vapors. I found I didn’t care for the high volume of dust while cutting the cement board with the circular saw. It would create dust everywhere. Not only did I need a dust mask so did others in the area. I also found it hard to see what I was cutting. I found out that using a jig saw with a carbide jig saw blade (from Home Depot or Harbor Freight) I could cut very controlled straight or circular cuts. This would create a very low volume of dust in the immediate area only so I could now work inside the house. Still needed a dust mask!
I am redoing our basement shower. I am learning as I go so I found this video very informative. I built my own shower pan so I already had membrane down and I used cement board and I have the mesh tape. Now I know how important it is to use quickset over the tape and roll on membrane. (Other membrane is vinyl). Love the video. You call it as you see it. Helped a lot. Thanks Jeff.
Like your small talk advice, I see you trying to be honest, practical and non biased to any product. ‘Home owner the best contractor ‘ thx for saying that. Similar thing a city of Mississauga inspector said.
I'm a first homeowner and have to replace my tub. I had to take out the subfloor which I was down to the joist and about to place new plywood. Had to take out the wall tile and part of the old wonderboard . It's about a foot or so from where the tub sits. I know I'm gonna have to replace all the wall tile. I'm trying to learn much as possible. My first time so I'm watching a lot of how to videos. I didn't know about the mesh and concrete , and that stuff you rolled on, don't worry I'm going to rewatch this and other videos until I'm sure of what I'm doing. I just wanna say thanks for the DIY videos. appreciate it and others that give a helping hand.
I found this video after having to gut my shower due to water behind the tile with no membrane or waterproofing when built. You have saved me a major headache of searching multiple videos and gleaning what I can to put all that information together. Your video was perfect for me and the best part is you are not annoying and tell a lot of useless information. Straight to the point and spoken in a matter that is easy to understand. Thank you again for making my unplanned renovation easier.
I am from Egypt and we don't have any code at all , also am in love with the wood house structure that you have , it makes life easier when renovating something or even when you like to add a feature , but here in Egypt all buildings , flats and what so ever are made of bricks or stone base so its very expensive and hard to renovate anything as DIY , anyway I would like you to know that am in love with your work and admire all the hard work and effort you and your son do in making such a good production , GREETINGS FROM EGYPT (Do the pool) :)
On the flip side, cement houses really cost you a lot less to maintain. In US if we have a leaking sink, toilet, or a shower leaking, if you don't fix it right away you can rot your whole floor out, then you're out thousands of dollars if you pay someone else to redo your floor. With a cement house, you can wait a week or month, and all the water gets sucked into the cement. After years and years it may damage the steel reenforcement or something, but it's a lot better in the perspective of maintenance costs or deferring maintenance. Wood houses just require so much maintenance that if you're not DIYing it all, costs thousands and thousands. You also need to deal with termites and flood damage, too, even if you maintain everything perfect, nature can still hit you. I've been to Vietnam, with similar cement buildings. One option you do have is just to use steel studs and use plasterboard/drywall if you want to make rooms inside of the cement walled rooms. That's as cheap or cheaper than wood and it's all the same processes, just you need anchors for the screws into the concrete for the steel studs. If you build a house there in Egypt, perhaps just make the load bearing walls and exterior walls cement like normal, then make it open for the rest of the house with steel studs. Then you can move walls around any way you choose fairly easily, but get the cement house durability.
Im from Philippines.. and ive been diy my tiny house after finding your channel.. saves me a lot of.money... and ive developed new skills and new.found loved hobby..
In Brazil, I don't know what are the building code (so to speak) requirements on wood/steel framing wet areas. But since this type of contruction is only starting to get grip, (99% here is masonry), we are still learning about these methods. We know a product named "glasroc", and a type of cement we use to glue the tiles that are made specifically for wet areas, we call it "AC3", and it's obviously preferred to use a ceramic tile with the lowest water abortion index (under 0,5%) . But people are discovering new methods for proper water insulation behind tiles... And I believe this green stuff you canadians use seems to be a kind of polymeric resin, and it's good to learn that trick!
Just found your videos after having almost completely remodeled a house. I've watched a lot of other channels in that time and wish I had found yours earlier. Very easy to understand and follow
Jeff, I live North of Cincinnati, OH. The Tile Shop's recommendation for water proofing was before putting up the cement board put a rubber liner from the drain, half way up the wall. So if water would get behind the cement board it could only go to the drain. I did not have a fiberglass prefabricated shower pan. I custom built my own. This is how I was able to take the rubber to the drain. Then install the cement board, caulking the joints & corners. Then go to tiling. I like your idea of the roll on liner so the water can not make it to the cement board.
Thank you. I have been on the fence as to what system to use for an up coming DIY shower build. Then last week we had a plumber come to repair an old tube valve. He found an access point in the hall linen closet. I saw the wire and cement that was embedded on the backside of the pink and black tile. The house was built in 1955. No broken tiles, no cracked grout. So along with your comments about the number of years this system should hold up….decision made. These are absolutely THE BEST-VIDEOS ON UA-cam.
This is great. I've been tiling for 30 years but only do a big project every 5 years or so. So I like to see what the latest techniques are and freshen up my skills each time. Thanks for getting my head back into the game and for showing me some new stuff!
Hey John from upstate New York here. Thanks for the info video. I am in the process of redoing a bathroom for family, total gut job to the studs. Took out the old tub and turning area into a large tile shower. I was thinking about the Schulter system for over the cement board, but watching this video I will use the roll on water proof membrane, a lot less money too. Thank you.
Love the comment on home owners being their best GCs; minus the years of experience (thank goodness for UA-cam), I totally agree with this. Over the years as much as I love my trusted professionals, not all take the time, or tell you what's best to do. Even the simple things like spending a few extra bucks on one product over another. Most of the time, it feels more like "time is money" and it's just about production.
Thank you ! You answered all my questions. You're so CUTE . Your videos are my favorite learning diy. I'm 60 yr old lady and I've always loved constriction. My dad was a contractor. Renovating my bathroom now. From studs up.
Excellent tips on type of screws, blade to use on circular saw. As usual Jeff is very easy to listen to for long periods while you're learning. Keep up the good work!
I learn a lot from you. Thank you. Please do yourself a favor, buy a Dollar store shoebox to store your tile wedges. Buy two, and store the spacers in one. Put your hand tool in one of the boxes and you have your system all nicely organized. You seem to be that type if person.
Holy cow, was this helpful. We have an 80 year old house with a bathtub surround that is literally falling apart. Dont' have the money for a full-on redo by a pro and I was anxious about what we could do on our own to at least get us through. Feel like this has given us some good steps forward and relieved a TON of anxiety!
I like the fact that your spiel, Jeff, is complimentary to the "doing" most make there person the priority so we get 3/4 talking and 1'4 doing. Thank you
This is just the series I needed. Redoing my bathrooms due previous shoddy workmanship that caused major leaks & water damage so I’m doing my best to research & ensure I do it right. Thank you.
I'm getting ready to do my 2nd shower renovation. My first one I used 2 coats of red guard over cement board. I'm thinking about schluter membrane on this one. Thanks so much for your videos. Helps me dive deeper into projects knowing how to get the results I want.
I’m in west Texas. Town of 6k or so. But I’d rather do it right the first time. Minimum code is just that, minimal. Do better. Love the videos. I’m using cement board.
Sir thank you so much for the video, I learned a lot!!! I'm from Mid-Michigan, our house was built in 1840's and is a Greek revival sty;e house. It has been remodeled inside more than several times I'm sure. We have had it for about 27 years now and I'm doing a re-model of our downstairs bathroom, new floor and walls included, again thanks for the video.
I love your work and explanation to everything you can think of Im a DIY contractor and doing my first Tile shower I have opted to use Water Proof GO BOARD instead of Is it Necessary to do a complete membrane other then the joints and screws ?? TYIA
Where's the shower lip? U mean the transition from (wall) cement board to the bottom of the bathtub? Also, please advise me, after applying Aduadefense waterproofing, what kind of thin-set mortar should apply on top of the Aduadefense (substrate)? I watch many mortified or un-mortified thin-set with many ANSI specs, and now I'm confused. Thanks for your pro tips since u've 45 yrs under your belt!
Calgary Alberta, although we have codes, with the massive amounts of growth in the city, most never follow the codes and inspectors are scarce. This system is how I assemble all my showers.
We moved into a 100 yr old house and have just started to deal with a shower wall that was not properly waterproofed. It is now seeping through the wall and onto the basement floor. We estimate the tile is about 20 years old and likely does not have cement board or a waterproof membrane behind it (as is code in or area of the US). Now we have to rip out the tile (we had planned to do this eventually but it is coming a year early) and assess the damage. When we do put up new tile, we will definitely make sure it is waterproofed to modern standards. We will probably go with this method because it costs a fraction of the Kerdi board system.
This is a fantastic video, one of the best I've seen and let me tell you I watched many. I feel I have the knowledge to do it myself. I'm scared but starting my shower today. Thank you so much for going slow and giving so many tips!
Jeff, I have a whirlpool tub that doesn't have a lip on it. How should I seal it? Love what your doing... got me through some drywall work that turned out better than the contractor that did our other bathroom. Thanks for all you do!
Jeff, I love watching your videos. I have learned a lot. I understand why leaving an 1/8 inch gap between tub flange and cement board prevents noise while in tub. But doesn't covering that gap and filing with cement just bring the noise problem back? Asking for my friend David.
Thanks for this video. I will finish patching my shower wall this weekend. Needed to see how to water proof and the products needed. *Long story short I recently purchased my home and discovered a leak which was due to a bad shark bite install. Love your quote, "Home owners are the best general contractors"
Thanks so much, Jeff! Tackling my first bathroom remodel: tub w/shower tile and tile floor. Thanks teaching me and guiding me through. You rock! Indiana, USA.
@@damienwg8829if you use Schluter, you will be so thankful and happy. It’s more expensive than cement board. But it is already waterproof and you don’t need to coat the entire thing. It’s also 90% lighter and so much easier to cut and install
Just wanted to thank you for taking time and by that saving time/headache/unnecessary expense/marriages, etc etc etc. Your videos are fun to watch and so far you covered every subject and every question that I had for all my projects. Keep up the great work. Can't thank you enough
Thank you for sharing your pro tips, you have saved me thousands, I was reluctant in carrying out any sort of D.I.Y project but you have given me the knowledge and confidence in doing such much needed D.I.Y on my home in here in CYPRUS thank you once again you are a genius
What I don't understand: When you install the tile on top of the waterproof membrane, don't you silicone the seam where tile meets the shower pan? Doesn't this prevent the potential water that made it past the tile to run off back into the pan, and just get stuck in the flange area and potentially run into the framing?
The tub has a flange that goes up about an inch. If a little water got back there it wouldn’t get to the framing. Actually the membrane would prevent the water from even getting to the flange.
Jeff, do you ever recess the shower and bath into the stud wall so the integrated flange is behind the cement sheet? This is the way most plumbers install them in Australia. It also fixes the problem where two walls are not at exact right angles. Thanks for your detailed explanations as they've corrected a lot of my previous methods of construction as a home rennovator.
Was quoted 14k$ to do this shower with green board......I had no choice but to follow this guide and do it better with better materials. Thanks! FYI.. only missing piece is cement to drywall transition.
Kalamazoo, MI. Ordered both Kerdi Membrane and Kerdi Board. 30 day return on the system I won’t use. Board looks to require less skilled “technique” when using the thin-set and ensuring no air bubbles and level walls. Confident we’ll get there with your help Jeff. Looking for the video on a shower bench installation and how that ties into the door side of the shower… 🤷♂️ Will be using your affiliate links for purchases - 👏👍
We had guys redo our master bath and only wanted to do one coat of redguard insisting that the thinset and tile are waterproof. I laughed and I insisted on 2 coats because we were using expensive tile. Then they complained because the too thin thinset they were using wasn't drying as fast as normal because the excess water in the thinset couldn't absorb into the cement board and the tiles were sagging. I had no issues with the bathroom I did myself. I will do all future bathrooms and not hire out (although it takes me much longer to do it)
i'm having a hard time with my guy as well, he's done a great job demoing, but this past week I didn't see any work and it's about 1k down the drain for me. I feel like he's wasting our resources to frame things that don't need it, but I'm going to insist on him doing what we want him to do. I want our bathroom really waterproof.
Can you seal the space between the cement board and pre existing drywall with the same thin set mix? Or should you use another material? It’s now officially my weekend morning routine to binge watch this channel 😂
Hi Natalie, using the cement is perfectly fine. I have found that the best way to transition from drywall to cement board is to let the tile do the work. always install your joint to be hidden by the edge of the tile. Cheers!
i used denshield no liquid membrane needed. just the fibertape and ciment compound im from montreal québec canada BTY Great channel ... love it !!! keep up the good work
Thanks for all the tips! Btw... Everyone wants a dry shower regardless of cost of tile. For me, it's all the time I spent getting to this point in the project. That's what I'm protecting
I've been following your videos to renovate my shower and they have been so helpful, my question is, how do you finish the gap between the drywall and the cement board? What's the best material for that transition?Can I use drywall mud or should I stick with quick setting cement?
I live in SoCal! I am actually installing my own shower!! So I've been binge watching all of your videos! (they're a huge help!) I am currently using a rubber shower membrane as well as cement board/ hardiebacker on top of that. Then adding red guard and fiberglass cloth for the edges. After a couple coats or so, how long do you think my shower will last?
I remodeled my master and used RedGuard to completely cover the entire shower area. 5 coats and then tiled over it. That was three years ago and the shower has worked perfectly with no leaking issues at all. Thanks for the video, I'm remodeling the two other bathrooms in my house with a tub in one and walk in shower with the other and your video was very helpful!
Picked up a few tips thanks! Only thing I didn’t like was getting thunder all over the pan. I taped mine off with a handi masker and it only took 2-3 minutes, and I didn’t have to wipe up any messes.
Great video, but just a tip for everyone regarding waterproofing layers.. subsequent layers should be perpendicular to each other as per the American code.
@@velocityacousticsi think he’s saying if you rolled vertically up and down on the first pass, you roll horizontally side to side on the second pass thru.
Jeff, thanks for the level of detail you put in your videos. Question about this one, what do you use on the outside corners where the cement board meets the drywall? Metal corner bead ? Mesh tape? Or paper metal corner beads? Cheers.
Uncle Jeff thanks for another informative video. Think my wife is getting jealous of how much time I spend hanging out with you lol Thanks for helping me picture my end project and the proper steps to get there.
Jeff, Your videos are fantastic! Thanks for all the great advice and videos. I live in Utah, USA. The code is waterproof joints between tub and wall. Definitely going with the system you showed. 👍
The city makes us do a great job as constructors But on the manufacturer of the hand tools they don't care or any houseware item this days things only lasts a couple of months if some times they break quickly it's just sucks how they slaves us so we don't step up between rent car paidment insurance cell service internet utilities bills food etc etc it takes every penny i earn 🙄
Question #2. What do you do for the join to the dry wall at the ceiling and on the left in the video? This is actually my big concern. Thanks. Love your videos.
Crys, did you ever figure this out ? I'm about to tear out my bath and use cement board as the substrate over a new tub. I "could" mask it all off....seems a bit redundant if it comes off easily. Was it still "wet" or did it dry completely then just wipe off ? Thanks.
John Krasinski Please no Starrtile. He does a lot of things “his way.” I don’t always disagree but sometimes you have to understand the risks he takes.
I’ve watched your videos and learned so much I patched a bathroom wall and did a great job . Sad to say my husband likes to cut corners. Ugh he doesn’t honk half the stuff to fix things is needed . Ugh
You stated to keep a small gap between the cement board and the flange due to movement of the pan then you filled that gap with a rigid material....which one is it????
You leave the gap so that when you apply the cement the gap fills in with a much more substantial amount. If your board goes all the way down the cement is just a thin skim coat so when the pan moves it’s much more likely to crack. If you leave a gap and fill with cement when the pan moves your cement is less likely to crack because you have more product there to hold itself together
That being said I prefer to use a schluter preformed pan, a tile backer like glassroc on the walls and then I use kerdi band and corners to water proof the joint between pan and wall board. Glassroc is much easier to install, much faster to use and I like that I only have to seal the joints with a silicone and the fasteners, not paint every square inch of the walls
Back in the day when I did bathroom reno's with wall surround's for a tile job I would staple 4 mill plastic on to the wall studs then screw the hardy backer over the 4 mill plastic then thin set mortar the joints with fiber tape , but back then there was no U tube to discover these new technique's , also that six tooth blade is nice I had a heavy scoring tool to score and snap like drywall even the 1/2 inch stuff , I'll have to pick one of those up , also I will say that the paint on waterproofing is probably a better idea , thanks for the vids !
Jeff, great video. Question: When redoing an existing custom shower with a cemented shower pan, do you set cement board directly on the cemented water pan or leave a small gap between the cement board and pan before taping the seam and covering with cement like you did with the preformed shower pan before water proofing?
He has done it with some project. In Sweden curbless is the standard so all of the floor has to be waterproofed with a kerdi like membrane and also the walls of the shower and the walls 1 meter from the shower also. Rest of the bathroom walls needs atleast a roll on membrane or usually its done with the same kerdi like membrane. Yes its very overkill and expensive.
Hi Darren, you are in luck! we are doing a bathroom remodel with a curbless shower at the end of October. videos will be released in the new year. Cheers!
I love your videos, especially the one that shows this same technique only cutting out the mortar and tape and just using the same 2 in 1 sealant required for Kerdi warranty before redguarding. Same deal in 1/2 the time....or am I missing something?
Dave Gordon so can you skip the mudding of the joints and just do the waterproofing? It seems like 2 coats would be sufficient in a smaller tub surround.
@@davegordon6943 Thank you. This is my first shower and I am starting from studs so I hope to take all the steps and protections so it will last at least 20 years, if not much longer.
I watched this video 4 times. Then, Built my bath stall with 1/4" backer board. Installed 2 large 12x24 tiles, then thought "those are heavy". Went to Google, found 5 or 6 sites that say to only use 1/2" board on walls. 1/4" is only good for flooring, is this correct?
We did our master bath about 6 months ago. It took time, but i brought it from the 1980’s to the 2020s! Did everything ourselves (hubby did the shim work- original shower as off plumb by about 3 inches!) and i did all the floor demo, installing the hardibacker, and the tiling and painting. All I have left to do is crown molding, and that will go in, in the spring. I’m doing the laundry room floor now, and the hall bath next week. I watched your vids closely to know how to do stuff. Thanks! (Fwiw, I am 68 and female, so one is never too old to learn!) East TN
Cath, you are clearly a bad***. At 66 I wish I could keep up with you, but I’m barely stumbling through cement board installation myself. I’ll learn. 😅 Hope yours turned out great.
Hello!! I know you probably won’t see this comment but if you do I just want to tell you how grateful I am to have found your channel. I bought my first house this year it was built in 1947 what sold me on my home was the 10 acres and the potential the house had for our 6 children. With 6 children come many many expenses and my boyfriend and myself both work in the oil industry and we are both college students soo we are always tight on money your channel has made our home renovation possible. Thank you for doing this and thank you for giving us the confidence to renovate our home ourselves. We are deeply grateful and appreciate all the videos!!!
Cheers Emily Happy to help! You got this!
I remodel homes for a side business, I know, I'm nuts but I enjoy the work and the money. I can do a little bit of it all. By trade I am a master plumber, on my first Reno years ago I tried my hand at ceramic tile, made plenty of mistakes. The job you are doing here is of quality and you just don't see that anymore. The only difference on my showers is I pour my own pan. People, watch this guy he knows what he is doing.
Was waiting for the cement board after watching 5 vids - in Australia, we only use cement board for wet areas. and shower waterproofing code is - fiberglass epoxy best stuff we got, will last over a lifetime $750. the roll-on membrane $450 - has lasted over 35 years so far no leaking at all best with acrylic primer, throw fine dry sand after the last wet coat of membrane dries, for the tile glue to bond. like your vids...
THANK YOU! This is exactly what my wife nad I needed to have the confidence to use the cement board and liquid membrane. I really appreciate your videos and your comment about homeowners being the best general contractor. We have surely found this to be true. Yes, professionals may have developed skills over the years but also they are trying to make as much money on the job as they can - that makes for speed and short cuts. Nobody cares more than we do in building our own home so we will take the time, use the best materials we can and do our best work.
I've had the 20 volt version of that Dewalt circular saw for over a year now, and watching this video a second time I just noticed Jeff pressing a thing to lock the blade to change it. I've just been holding onto my blade itself to undo the bolt. Grr.
I'm in California, I use to do cement beds for years but I have changes to 1/2" cement board and Schluder. I have never had a call back and I've been doing it since 1964. Retired now but still working on my homes and I like the ease of the cement board and Schluder; I have used Red Guard and have never had any problems . Going to try the stuff you used, I don't need it to last 50 years I'm 73 and don't expect to be around that long. Let the next guy use some new product .Thanks for your videos, I like them allot.
well .. John ? I EXPECT you to be around and healthy a very long time. ;)
I like the roll on membranes like mapeis versus schluter Kerdi. To much build up and tedious application of Kerdi band in corners. Kerdi over cement board is silly imho, just do a roll on. Easier and cheaper.
Have you ever used hot mop? A lot of the bathroom bids I have received they only use hot mop for water proofing? I heard this is a southern cal thing?
Peter D NEVER EVER EVER let someone talk you into a hot mop installation. I make good money in Central CA working behind contractors that did a hot mop. It’ll fail, you’ll have mushy tile and that’s the least of your worries if the shower is in a second story.
Is there a way to make a shelf with the tile for shampoo and soap with out making the cut out in the wall?
There are videos on UA-cam. Than there are videos on UA-cam were the individuals know what their doing and can teach! Brovo! Keep up the great work!
thank you so much.
i just started working at Feldman lumber in new york and the guy who got me the job told me to start watching your videos and man i want to thank you alot for your help.
your videos helped me and are helping me learn more and more about what i do.
It's always refreshing to watch a diy video from someone that is relaxed and doesn't have a hard line on this way or that way to things. Reminds me of old school "This Old House" with Bob Villa. You've helped me so much.
I hadn't thought about it in these terms but you're exactly right. He's got that laid back, "buddy helping out" vibe. So easy to listen to.
Jeff, I live in Arizona. I used red guard on cement board, worked very good. You’ll need to have lots of air circulation or better yet a respirator while using this product, one can get overcome from vapors. I found I didn’t care for the high volume of dust while cutting the cement board with the circular saw. It would create dust everywhere. Not only did I need a dust mask so did others in the area. I also found it hard to see what I was cutting. I found out that using a jig saw with a carbide jig saw blade (from Home Depot or Harbor Freight) I could cut very controlled straight or circular cuts. This would create a very low volume of dust in the immediate area only so I could now work inside the house. Still needed a dust mask!
you don't miss any points. I've watched thousands of DIY vids and you kill it. Thank you!
I am redoing our basement shower. I am learning as I go so I found this video very informative. I built my own shower pan so I already had membrane down and I used cement board and I have the mesh tape. Now I know how important it is to use quickset over the tape and roll on membrane. (Other membrane is vinyl). Love the video. You call it as you see it. Helped a lot. Thanks Jeff.
I didn’t even know you had to coat the board with anything except thin set when you tile.
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Like your small talk advice, I see you trying to be honest, practical and non biased to any product. ‘Home owner the best contractor ‘ thx for saying that. Similar thing a city of Mississauga inspector said.
I'm a first homeowner and have to replace my tub. I had to take out the subfloor which I was down to the joist and about to place new plywood. Had to take out the wall tile and part of the old wonderboard . It's about a foot or so from where the tub sits. I know I'm gonna have to replace all the wall tile. I'm trying to learn much as possible. My first time so I'm watching a lot of how to videos. I didn't know about the mesh and concrete , and that stuff you rolled on, don't worry I'm going to rewatch this and other videos until I'm sure of what I'm doing. I just wanna say thanks for the DIY videos. appreciate it and others that give a helping hand.
I found this video after having to gut my shower due to water behind the tile with no membrane or waterproofing when built. You have saved me a major headache of searching multiple videos and gleaning what I can to put all that information together. Your video was perfect for me and the best part is you are not annoying and tell a lot of useless information. Straight to the point and spoken in a matter that is easy to understand. Thank you again for making my unplanned renovation easier.
Same story at my house . . . No waterproofing. We just gutted my bathroom and am following this video for the renovation. ❤
I am from Egypt and we don't have any code at all , also am in love with the wood house structure that you have , it makes life easier when renovating something or even when you like to add a feature , but here in Egypt all buildings , flats and what so ever are made of bricks or stone base so its very expensive and hard to renovate anything as DIY , anyway I would like you to know that am in love with your work and admire all the hard work and effort you and your son do in making such a good production , GREETINGS FROM EGYPT (Do the pool) :)
On the flip side, cement houses really cost you a lot less to maintain. In US if we have a leaking sink, toilet, or a shower leaking, if you don't fix it right away you can rot your whole floor out, then you're out thousands of dollars if you pay someone else to redo your floor. With a cement house, you can wait a week or month, and all the water gets sucked into the cement. After years and years it may damage the steel reenforcement or something, but it's a lot better in the perspective of maintenance costs or deferring maintenance. Wood houses just require so much maintenance that if you're not DIYing it all, costs thousands and thousands. You also need to deal with termites and flood damage, too, even if you maintain everything perfect, nature can still hit you.
I've been to Vietnam, with similar cement buildings. One option you do have is just to use steel studs and use plasterboard/drywall if you want to make rooms inside of the cement walled rooms. That's as cheap or cheaper than wood and it's all the same processes, just you need anchors for the screws into the concrete for the steel studs. If you build a house there in Egypt, perhaps just make the load bearing walls and exterior walls cement like normal, then make it open for the rest of the house with steel studs. Then you can move walls around any way you choose fairly easily, but get the cement house durability.
No codes but last I checked your Pyramids are still standing after thousands of years!
@@maximaniac7231 Hahahaha!!!! 😂 Apologies...Only just seen your comment...LOVE IT!!!😂👍👍
South Florida. Is mostly CBS. Metal studs.
Egypt? Go build you a pyramid bish…
Im from Philippines.. and ive been diy my tiny house after finding your channel.. saves me a lot of.money... and ive developed new skills and new.found loved hobby..
Hi you will use frame tini house with timber or steel?
@@chinhvannguyen1685 here in Ph we use concrete hollowblocks.. and steel studs for interior...steel frame for.roof..
@@bfjohnmark I from viet nam, I want made cement board with coconut fiber
Its flat!
kami sa batangas ang water proofing namin sasa dahon nang coconut....pinag sasalisi it works great
JEFF WATERPROOFING KING!!!! LOL, watching this 5 minutes before we attempt our first shower project. THANK YOU FOR THIS EDUCATION!
Cheers!
In Brazil, I don't know what are the building code (so to speak) requirements on wood/steel framing wet areas. But since this type of contruction is only starting to get grip, (99% here is masonry), we are still learning about these methods.
We know a product named "glasroc", and a type of cement we use to glue the tiles that are made specifically for wet areas, we call it "AC3", and it's obviously preferred to use a ceramic tile with the lowest water abortion index (under 0,5%) . But people are discovering new methods for proper water insulation behind tiles... And I believe this green stuff you canadians use seems to be a kind of polymeric resin, and it's good to learn that trick!
Just found your videos after having almost completely remodeled a house. I've watched a lot of other channels in that time and wish I had found yours earlier. Very easy to understand and follow
I highly recommend becoming a member. I did and Jeff and his team have been a huge help.
Cheers Wendy, Happy to help!
I honestly wish I could work for this man for a few years. What an incredible teacher! And such detail!
SAME!
Me too!
Yea
Jeff, I live North of Cincinnati, OH. The Tile Shop's recommendation for water proofing was before putting up the cement board put a rubber liner from the drain, half way up the wall. So if water would get behind the cement board it could only go to the drain. I did not have a fiberglass prefabricated shower pan. I custom built my own. This is how I was able to take the rubber to the drain. Then install the cement board, caulking the joints & corners. Then go to tiling. I like your idea of the roll on liner so the water can not make it to the cement board.
Thank you. I have been on the fence as to what system to use for an up coming DIY shower build. Then last week we had a plumber come to repair an old tube valve. He found an access point in the hall linen closet. I saw the wire and cement that was embedded on the backside of the pink and black tile. The house was built in 1955. No broken tiles, no cracked grout. So along with your comments about the number of years this system should hold up….decision made. These are absolutely THE BEST-VIDEOS ON UA-cam.
This is great. I've been tiling for 30 years but only do a big project every 5 years or so. So I like to see what the latest techniques are and freshen up my skills each time. Thanks for getting my head back into the game and for showing me some new stuff!
Hey John from upstate New York here. Thanks for the info video. I am in the process of redoing a bathroom for family, total gut job to the studs. Took out the old tub and turning area into a large tile shower. I was thinking about the Schulter system for over the cement board, but watching this video I will use the roll on water proof membrane, a lot less money too. Thank you.
I love this guy! And I'm not even a local.
G'day from Australia!
Love the comment on home owners being their best GCs; minus the years of experience (thank goodness for UA-cam), I totally agree with this. Over the years as much as I love my trusted professionals, not all take the time, or tell you what's best to do. Even the simple things like spending a few extra bucks on one product over another. Most of the time, it feels more like "time is money" and it's just about production.
Thank you !
You answered all my questions.
You're so CUTE . Your videos are my favorite learning diy. I'm 60 yr old lady and I've always loved constriction. My dad was a contractor. Renovating my bathroom now. From studs up.
Hands down, the best regular guy explaining to regular ass people in regular language. Great videos man.
Excellent tips on type of screws, blade to use on circular saw. As usual Jeff is very easy to listen to for long periods while you're learning. Keep up the good work!
Best renovation channel on UA-cam. You do such a great job of explaining stuff.
Thanks Matt. Cheers!
I learn a lot from you. Thank you. Please do yourself a favor, buy a Dollar store shoebox to store your tile wedges. Buy two, and store the spacers in one. Put your hand tool in one of the boxes and you have your system all nicely organized. You seem to be that type if person.
Holy cow, was this helpful. We have an 80 year old house with a bathtub surround that is literally falling apart. Dont' have the money for a full-on redo by a pro and I was anxious about what we could do on our own to at least get us through. Feel like this has given us some good steps forward and relieved a TON of anxiety!
I like the fact that your spiel, Jeff, is complimentary to the "doing" most make there person the priority so we get 3/4 talking and 1'4 doing. Thank you
This is just the series I needed. Redoing my bathrooms due previous shoddy workmanship that caused major leaks & water damage so I’m doing my best to research & ensure I do it right. Thank you.
I was curious about how to tie the shower/tub flange in with the cement board. You just answered my question. I appreciate all of your valuable info.
Cheers Alan, happy to help!
Yes, but he use the tape and patched it with quickrete.
Jovan Hardwick you will time it almost flush to the shower pan and overlap the flange.
I'm getting ready to do my 2nd shower renovation. My first one I used 2 coats of red guard over cement board. I'm thinking about schluter membrane on this one. Thanks so much for your videos. Helps me dive deeper into projects knowing how to get the results I want.
Jeff does absolutely amazing work. I used him for my 5' x 7.5' bathroom with tub. Only cost $674,000 dollars.
What a steal! It cost me over one million!
I’m in west Texas. Town of 6k or so. But I’d rather do it right the first time. Minimum code is just that, minimal. Do better. Love the videos. I’m using cement board.
Do you have a demo of installing cement board in the niche and waterproofing it
Sir thank you so much for the video, I learned a lot!!! I'm from Mid-Michigan, our house was built in 1840's and is a Greek revival sty;e house. It has been remodeled inside more than several times I'm sure. We have had it for about 27 years now and I'm doing a re-model of our downstairs bathroom, new floor and walls included, again thanks for the video.
I love your work and explanation to everything you can think of Im a DIY contractor and doing my first Tile shower I have opted to use Water Proof GO BOARD instead of Is it Necessary to do a complete membrane other then the joints and screws ?? TYIA
excellent tips Jeff! ..using mesh tape to tape the cement board to shower lip is exactly how i have done it for 45 years...never had an issue ever!
Where's the shower lip? U mean the transition from (wall) cement board to the bottom of the bathtub? Also, please advise me, after applying Aduadefense waterproofing, what kind of thin-set mortar should apply on top of the Aduadefense (substrate)? I watch many mortified or un-mortified thin-set with many ANSI specs, and now I'm confused. Thanks for your pro tips since u've 45 yrs under your belt!
Jeff nothing you do is DIY it all looks really professional to me Jeff from Wales . Excellent videos keep it up.
Thanks 👍
I like how fast you work. It helps me to be confident with a project and just muscle through any difficult tasks, but most importantly, DO THEM RIGHT.
Calgary Alberta, although we have codes, with the massive amounts of growth in the city, most never follow the codes and inspectors are scarce. This system is how I assemble all my showers.
You sure take pride in REDOING your work, hmm?
We moved into a 100 yr old house and have just started to deal with a shower wall that was not properly waterproofed. It is now seeping through the wall and onto the basement floor. We estimate the tile is about 20 years old and likely does not have cement board or a waterproof membrane behind it (as is code in or area of the US). Now we have to rip out the tile (we had planned to do this eventually but it is coming a year early) and assess the damage. When we do put up new tile, we will definitely make sure it is waterproofed to modern standards. We will probably go with this method because it costs a fraction of the Kerdi board system.
Out of all versions of waterproofing I have seen you demo, this is the one I am leaning toward. First-time DIY shower project.
This is a fantastic video, one of the best I've seen and let me tell you I watched many. I feel I have the knowledge to do it myself. I'm scared but starting my shower today. Thank you so much for going slow and giving so many tips!
Jeff, I have a whirlpool tub that doesn't have a lip on it. How should I seal it? Love what your doing... got me through some drywall work that turned out better than the contractor that did our other bathroom. Thanks for all you do!
Jeff, I love watching your videos. I have learned a lot. I understand why leaving an 1/8 inch gap between tub flange and cement board prevents noise while in tub. But doesn't covering that gap and filing with cement just bring the noise problem back? Asking for my friend David.
Thanks for this video. I will finish patching my shower wall this weekend. Needed to see how to water proof and the products needed. *Long story short I recently purchased my home and discovered a leak which was due to a bad shark bite install. Love your quote, "Home owners are the best general contractors"
I just used a multi tool, vibrating tool worked great with a drywall cutting blade No problem first cut shallow second cut all the way through.
I’m tiling my entire bathroom and I like the membrane that you are using. I’m a over kill guy. So I’ll be doing the entire room except the ceiling.
Great video. Just about to tackle my first bathroom reno.
Same here !
Thanks so much, Jeff! Tackling my first bathroom remodel: tub w/shower tile and tile floor. Thanks teaching me and guiding me through. You rock! Indiana, USA.
Howd it go? Im doing the exact same in about a month
@@damienwg8829if you use Schluter, you will be so thankful and happy. It’s more expensive than cement board. But it is already waterproof and you don’t need to coat the entire thing. It’s also 90% lighter and so much easier to cut and install
Just wanted to thank you for taking time and by that saving time/headache/unnecessary expense/marriages, etc etc etc. Your videos are fun to watch and so far you covered every subject and every question that I had for all my projects. Keep up the great work. Can't thank you enough
Doing my first bathroom til job right now at my house. Your videos are a life saver. I hope youtube is making you wildly rich.
Thank you for sharing your pro tips, you have saved me thousands, I was reluctant in carrying out any sort of D.I.Y project but you have given me the knowledge and confidence in doing such much needed D.I.Y on my home in here in CYPRUS thank you once again you are a genius
What I don't understand: When you install the tile on top of the waterproof membrane, don't you silicone the seam where tile meets the shower pan? Doesn't this prevent the potential water that made it past the tile to run off back into the pan, and just get stuck in the flange area and potentially run into the framing?
the silicone is used as an aesthetic concept on tubs but not needed at all for showers. Cheers!
The tub has a flange that goes up about an inch. If a little water got back there it wouldn’t get to the framing. Actually the membrane would prevent the water from even getting to the flange.
Jeff, do you ever recess the shower and bath into the stud wall so the integrated flange is behind the cement sheet? This is the way most plumbers install them in Australia. It also fixes the problem where two walls are not at exact right angles.
Thanks for your detailed explanations as they've corrected a lot of my previous methods of construction as a home rennovator.
Was quoted 14k$ to do this shower with green board......I had no choice but to follow this guide and do it better with better materials. Thanks! FYI.. only missing piece is cement to drywall transition.
Kalamazoo, MI. Ordered both Kerdi Membrane and Kerdi Board. 30 day return on the system I won’t use. Board looks to require less skilled “technique” when using the thin-set and ensuring no air bubbles and level walls. Confident we’ll get there with your help Jeff. Looking for the video on a shower bench installation and how that ties into the door side of the shower… 🤷♂️ Will be using your affiliate links for purchases - 👏👍
also do you have a video to show how to install shower pan from a to z thanks
We had guys redo our master bath and only wanted to do one coat of redguard insisting that the thinset and tile are waterproof. I laughed and I insisted on 2 coats because we were using expensive tile. Then they complained because the too thin thinset they were using wasn't drying as fast as normal because the excess water in the thinset couldn't absorb into the cement board and the tiles were sagging. I had no issues with the bathroom I did myself. I will do all future bathrooms and not hire out (although it takes me much longer to do it)
i'm having a hard time with my guy as well, he's done a great job demoing, but this past week I didn't see any work and it's about 1k down the drain for me. I feel like he's wasting our resources to frame things that don't need it, but I'm going to insist on him doing what we want him to do. I want our bathroom really waterproof.
Can you seal the space between the cement board and pre existing drywall with the same thin set mix? Or should you use another material?
It’s now officially my weekend morning routine to binge watch this channel 😂
Hi Natalie, using the cement is perfectly fine. I have found that the best way to transition from drywall to cement board is to let the tile do the work. always install your joint to be hidden by the edge of the tile. Cheers!
Home RenoVision DIY Much appreciated!
Great question Natalie I was wondering the same. Thanks for the answer Jeff.
homeowners are the best general contractors!!! you are so right, you are the best
i used denshield no liquid membrane needed. just the fibertape and ciment compound im from montreal québec canada BTY Great channel ... love it !!! keep up the good work
Thanks for all the tips! Btw... Everyone wants a dry shower regardless of cost of tile. For me, it's all the time I spent getting to this point in the project. That's what I'm protecting
I've been following your videos to renovate my shower and they have been so helpful, my question is, how do you finish the gap between the drywall and the cement board? What's the best material for that transition?Can I use drywall mud or should I stick with quick setting cement?
I live in SoCal! I am actually installing my own shower!! So I've been binge watching all of your videos! (they're a huge help!) I am currently using a rubber shower membrane as well as cement board/ hardiebacker on top of that. Then adding red guard and fiberglass cloth for the edges. After a couple coats or so, how long do you think my shower will last?
2 months
Why 2 months?
@@davidmuniz5307 😆😆😆
I remodeled my master and used RedGuard to completely cover the entire shower area. 5 coats and then tiled over it. That was three years ago and the shower has worked perfectly with no leaking issues at all. Thanks for the video, I'm remodeling the two other bathrooms in my house with a tub in one and walk in shower with the other and your video was very helpful!
Picked up a few tips thanks! Only thing I didn’t like was getting thunder all over the pan. I taped mine off with a handi masker and it only took 2-3 minutes, and I didn’t have to wipe up any messes.
Great video, but just a tip for everyone regarding waterproofing layers.. subsequent layers should be perpendicular to each other as per the American code.
Can you elaborate more on this?. I think I understand but need more clarification
@@velocityacousticsi think he’s saying if you rolled vertically up and down on the first pass, you roll horizontally side to side on the second pass thru.
Jeff, thanks for the level of detail you put in your videos. Question about this one, what do you use on the outside corners where the cement board meets the drywall? Metal corner bead ? Mesh tape? Or paper metal corner beads? Cheers.
Metal or plastic corner bead. You cannot ever use mesh or paper on outside corners.
Love the videos and how informative you are, also like the Bob Ross reference when applying the cement to the drywall!
Uncle Jeff thanks for another informative video. Think my wife is getting jealous of how much time I spend hanging out with you lol
Thanks for helping me picture my end project and the proper steps to get there.
Cheers Tyler. happy to help!
You are so awesome!!! Such a great attitude and a perfectionist. I have completely remodeled my house watching your video's and I'm a women!!
Jeff,
Your videos are fantastic! Thanks for all the great advice and videos. I live in Utah, USA. The code is waterproof joints between tub and wall. Definitely going with the system you showed. 👍
The city makes us do a great job as constructors
But on the manufacturer of the hand tools they don't care or any houseware item this days things only lasts a couple of months if some times they break quickly it's just sucks how they slaves us so we don't step up between rent car paidment insurance cell service internet utilities bills food etc etc it takes every penny i earn 🙄
Question #2. What do you do for the join to the dry wall at the ceiling and on the left in the video? This is actually my big concern. Thanks. Love your videos.
I'm wondering this as well
Paper Tape and mud !
Hey There, thanks for the How-to. Did you simply use a sponge to get the quick-set off the shower basin before it dried?
Crys, did you ever figure this out ? I'm about to tear out my bath and use cement board as the substrate over a new tub. I "could" mask it all off....seems a bit redundant if it comes off easily. Was it still "wet" or did it dry completely then just wipe off ? Thanks.
I always tape off with plastic to protect the tub, but yeah, it wipes right off.
I would have taped that area with painters tape… nobody likes cleaning up after themselves… tape saves you 20 minutes
I like that you show(albeit minor) mistakes instead of cutting film.
Thank you for making these videos. When ever I have a question on how to complete a DYI project. I head to UA-cam and I get some good information.
Hi. Since you are installing a membrane above your durock, do you tape your seams with modified or unmodified thinset?
Thanks for your videos.
Neither. You use a quick setting cement.
Modified… the only time i see companies use unmodified is under cement board for floor tiling.
How do you handle the outside corners where drywall meets cement board as well as the cement board to ceiling corners?
What I did on cement board to ceiling and wall sheetrock was use the same mesh tape and the same mortar mix (thinset).
I get the cement board tape, I've got same, drywall to Hardie corner outside... corner bead? Or just tile edge profile?
any chance you'd make a custom shower pan video? Love your stuff!
I need that video as well
me too
Yes. Waiting on that!
Just watch sal diblasi or starrtile
John Krasinski Please no Starrtile. He does a lot of things “his way.” I don’t always disagree but sometimes you have to understand the risks he takes.
I’ve watched your videos and learned so much I patched a bathroom wall and did a great job . Sad to say my husband likes to cut corners. Ugh he doesn’t honk half the stuff to fix things is needed . Ugh
You stated to keep a small gap between the cement board and the flange due to movement of the pan then you filled that gap with a rigid material....which one is it????
You leave the gap so that when you apply the cement the gap fills in with a much more substantial amount. If your board goes all the way down the cement is just a thin skim coat so when the pan moves it’s much more likely to crack. If you leave a gap and fill with cement when the pan moves your cement is less likely to crack because you have more product there to hold itself together
That being said I prefer to use a schluter preformed pan, a tile backer like glassroc on the walls and then I use kerdi band and corners to water proof the joint between pan and wall board. Glassroc is much easier to install, much faster to use and I like that I only have to seal the joints with a silicone and the fasteners, not paint every square inch of the walls
12:40 "I do like it a little stiffer" - This had me cracking it up
That's what she said.
Better safe than soggy.
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Man youre incredible. I'm a handyman, you've helped me learn more than any other UA-camr out there and thats saying something
Back in the day when I did bathroom reno's with wall surround's for a tile job I would staple 4 mill plastic on to the wall studs then screw the hardy backer over the 4 mill plastic then thin set mortar the joints with fiber tape , but back then there was no U tube to discover these new technique's , also that six tooth blade is nice I had a heavy scoring tool to score and snap like drywall even the 1/2 inch stuff , I'll have to pick one of those up , also I will say that the paint on waterproofing is probably a better idea , thanks for the vids !
Jeff, great video. Question: When redoing an existing custom shower with a cemented shower pan, do you set cement board directly on the cemented water pan or leave a small gap between the cement board and pan before taping the seam and covering with cement like you did with the preformed shower pan before water proofing?
Yes this question
he answered this question in his video. you leave a bit of gap to allow for shower base to wiggle a little bit.
gap
Great video, would like to see you do one where you install a curbless shower.
He has done it with some project. In Sweden curbless is the standard so all of the floor has to be waterproofed with a kerdi like membrane and also the walls of the shower and the walls 1 meter from the shower also. Rest of the bathroom walls needs atleast a roll on membrane or usually its done with the same kerdi like membrane. Yes its very overkill and expensive.
Hi Darren, you are in luck! we are doing a bathroom remodel with a curbless shower at the end of October. videos will be released in the new year. Cheers!
Cheers!
I love your videos, especially the one that shows this same technique only cutting out the mortar and tape and just using the same 2 in 1 sealant required for Kerdi warranty before redguarding. Same deal in 1/2 the time....or am I missing something?
Dave Gordon so can you skip the mudding of the joints and just do the waterproofing? It seems like 2 coats would be sufficient in a smaller tub surround.
@@davegordon6943 Hi Dave. Can Durock sheets butt up tight against each other? Or is some minimal gap required?
@@davegordon6943 Thank you. This is my first shower and I am starting from studs so I hope to take all the steps and protections so it will last at least 20 years, if not much longer.
What do you think about plastic foil before cement boards?? Is that recommended or just unnecessary work?? Thanks for your videos👍🏻
I needed that. Thanks Jeff. You're the very best in this your lecture series for DIYers. God's bless.
I watched this video 4 times. Then, Built my bath stall with 1/4" backer board. Installed 2 large 12x24 tiles, then thought "those are heavy". Went to Google, found 5 or 6 sites that say to only use 1/2" board on walls. 1/4" is only good for flooring, is this correct?
There is no rule for this. just op[nion. Cheers!
There are manufacturers suggestions for weight though. You're just wrong. In Washington State you have to use 1\2 in because of weight issues.
How do you mud the top corners where the backer board and drywall meet? Fiber mesh tape or drywall tape? Drywall mud or thin set?
@@jerryz255 cement board mesh tape
Did u really just get mud all over the new shower pan ?