Tokyo Ghoul Author has Revealed Everything
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- Tokyo Ghoul Author has Revealed Everything
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Regardless of how Ishida feels about Tokyo Ghoul, even through all of those stresses he's had to work through, he still crafted a story that many people call a masterpiece.
100% agree. Tokyo Ghoul is one of my favorite series, and I definitely do think it is damn near a masterpiece.
@@thegracefulrogue5923 Agreed. It's not quite a masterpiece to me, but it is damn good.
Yes, it is a masterpiece. One of the few series that gave me life lessons during rough times. Though I hope Sui Ishida is doing better now even with the new manga
It's definitely a masterpiece... not saying it doesn't had issues but definitely a great story.
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I loved Tokyo Ghoul so it feels weird to hear that the author seems to dislike it so much. I mean I'm happy he's doing better, but jeez. I think TG meant a lot to his fans
it means a lot to me considering I found the first part of the series when I was at a really dark place a decade ago. So its depressing to hear its own author has such a poor view of the series.
He doesn't dislike Tokyo Ghoul at all, he just felt there are some things he could've donde better bc was critical about his schedule and deadlines, not bc of the story nor the series themselves. In fact, he has said that he loves the manga, both in his final letter and in Zakki :re after the manga was completed.
@@joshuakhaos4451 but he doesn't have a poor view of the series lol
@@joshuakhaos4451yeah I feel exactly the same... Tokyo ghoul helped me in so many ways so its kinda sad that the own author doesn't really like it but I'm gonna love it regardless... Cuz it really helped me, those feeling weren't a lie
It's pretty common for creators to not like what they create
It's just nice to hear from Ishida once in a while. Because we know how much fun he has with Choujin X that he draws on his personal schedule.
would you recommend choujin X? I only know it because it beautiful volume covers but the art in it looks very messy and not consistent at all. And the synapsys is super vague. Also the release schedule seems like a nightmare to follow and will it even be ever finished or is there even any drive in it without the weekly or monthly grind?
@@user-vl8ck4gz6w I would definitely say it's worth a read. It's a very fast read.
The schedule is entirely on Ishida whenever he wants. It's a series you will be able to follow occasionally
@@user-vl8ck4gz6w i recommend you to start all over again to keep in track , I promise it's good
It is still one of my favourite manga with one of my favourite antagonists, I just wished the final act wasn’t rushed & we got everything & everyone properly fleshed out but I understand why he did it, still love the series
Furuta is so misunderstood. People just lable him as the big bad out of nowhere.
Furuta just wasn't given enough time to breathe as the final villain. We needed like at least 1 or 2 more volume/s of :re to really flesh him and the final arc out properly.
In my opinion he was rather insufferable from start to finish. Especially after having characters like Arima and Eto and even the doctor. @@Jakokokoroko
I still liked the final act, it wasn't as emotionally hitting me like pretty much anything else in the series, exceeot for maybe the start of :re, but I felt weirdly calm while reading it, knowing it would end soon. I felt tranquility while reading the final chaoters with Reze and Furuta, i even shed a tear for him.. But i still felt so calm it was beautiful. I also think Ke's calmness and tranquility was partially a reason for that, but I really loved it and don't wanna get more into my psychology. Just know I loved it
Tokyo ghoul has my favorite art style.
same except when he draws fights.....its really tough to follow
yes! it was beautiful and a bit on the realistic side
@@sriramsedimbi6833i think the way he draws fights is unique and beautiful
🎉
@@ritaevora9430 I cannot follow the panels on the fights, there are some legendary panels which nobody can take away from though
Tokyo ghouls is top three in my favorites. Knowing all the hurdles he went through I can’t help but wonder what TG would have been like if he had the opportunity to create it like he’s doing with choujin x.
Tokyo Ghoul for me is nothing short of a Masterpice for me in every sense...TG will always be close to heart
Same here. The first series of Tokyo Ghoul will always be one of my favorite bits of media. It kills me that he has such a poor view of Tokyo Ghoul. I wonder if he'd still have that opinion if he really knew how much that story means to some people.
having your opinion on a show influenced by others isn't necessarily good.
If that's how he feels about TG.
As the author himself then is fair and no one can really disagree with him as it his own opinion on a work of art he created
@@joshuakhaos4451
Even if sensei doesn't think of Tokyo Ghoul as a masterpiece of his magnum opus, I'm still very grateful to him for making this manga and and I'm grateful that I get to read something like this.
I've had a rough time when I was still reading Tokyo Ghoul. To some extent I can relate myself to Kaneki, about everything is suffering since there's horrible events one after the other. However, what inspired me was the panel "It may not be my style, but, live." That panel made me damn emotional and for some reason, gave me a reason or a message to continue.
So sensei, thank you
Very happy for you, man
Keep Living)
For me its was Guts (Berserk) and Agni (FirePunch)
Good luck, don't give up, even if I did it long ago
@@kenmaru777I'm very grateful for your message, I hope for you to keep on living too
Same reason dude, tokyo ghoul and kaneki saved me when i was going through a hard time, plus tokyo ghoul has alot of life lessons like kaneki accepting himself as a person and the world he lives in, truly changed me as a person, I'm still not able to comprehend why ppl think tokyyo ghoul went downhill, i thought it was good from start to finish
No matter what Ishida says. I still think it’s a masterpiece of a manga, still my personal favorite manga of all time. Tokyo ghoul/Tokyo ghoul Re is such a masterpiece.
As an Artist myself, being able to Freely do your own Art and Story without the depressing financial/corporate restraints and grind is Peak happiness.
I'm really happy for Sui Ishida, I also wish to be in the same place as he is. I know the climb will be grueling, but hopefully it'll be worth it.
Let me know what you got bro, I'd be happy to check it ou fs
9:06 I think Choujin X will really only blow up if we get an anime adaptation. At the moment the community is pretty small, only ever heard talk about it on their reddit and some manga recommendation vids. I'd imagine it's because of the schedule (we don't always know when the next chapter is gonna release) and due to the relatively small chapter count (still under 100). I know chainsaw man and jjk were popular before their anime adaptations but I don't know if that will apply to Choujin X
Always buying the book when I see it. I’m holding in myself from reading since has few chapters so waiting to binge.
Manga popularity has always been non existent in the west. Westerners HATE reading lol. It's super weird that Chainsaw man blew up the way it did.
@@yes-gs2rdit’s definitely not that way anymore. plenty of people in the west enjoy both manga and anime
@@xancer. It's definitely way more popular then it used to be but I guess I mean't non existent in comparison to anime. It's pretty rare for a manga with no anime to gain any sort of traction in the west.
@@yes-gs2rd this is very true and also very sad
It makes a lot of sense. Regardless of having more, less, or the same amount of time, the motivation behind the utilization of it makes all the difference.
Imagine busting an all nighter for a research paper you hate vs busting an all nighter researching a topic you like such as: a new software, recipes, or cars. It's two completely different experiences. One is an eyesore while the other is eye opening, making the Choujin X and Tokyo Ghoul look like light and darkness, respectively, to Ishida
Couldn't have said it better myself
As a fellow creative .... u gotta strike when the inspiration hits and then u get lost in it until you hit that wall. Then u gotta wait until it hits again.... I 10000% understand his " sporadic" work ethic.
I feel this, getting lost in the inspiration is the best
I remember starting Tokyo ghoul when it first started and was startled when it had so many chapters coming out within days of each other. Tokyo ghoul definitely my top 5. Can’t wait to binge read, maybe I’ll read it on my birthday next month. 😂
the fact that this is ishidas first (and untill 2021 only) work is insane. he often makes amazing full page or double page illustrations that convery so much emotion and is full of so much detail. he was learning how to write and make a story as he was making tokyo ghoul. he was 24 when he started tokyo ghoul and managed to make a legendary story even under the intense stress and poor coditions he had to work in
If you ever look back on your yesterday and feel satisfied, there is something wrong. We all dislike our past, just because we could do so much better today.
Sufferents posting a tokyo ghoul video brings me back
this is called the artist dilemma as an artist creative what ever form it may be for me fashion we tend to look back at our work and call it trash and never our best work we tend to self destruct ourselfs i totally understand how he feels and i do feel that TG was a good series and if he want he can work on a project on his own as a side project to fully show his colours.
Refreshing to know how the author actually expresses genuine enjoyment with his works, and it radiates towards his audience.
Unrelated but hilarious seeing your editing style like this after years of how it was before
Makes me sad to know that he has trouble looking back on Tokyo Ghoul. It's understandable, considering the amount of stress he went through, but I hope he can one day view TG in a more positive manner. I'm glad Choujin X has been a lot more freeing for him! Very well articulated (the pictures/videos you included made me laugh LOL). Great video :)
I kinda get where the author is coming from. Especially with Re
as crappy is this sounds i feel like ishida being miserable and having all those negative feelings caused tokyo ghoul to take the dark, intercentered story we love. i’m glad ishida is doing well but i don’t think his writing will ever be like tg again
and I think that’s for the best. So far choujin x has absolutely been amazing so far, there’s things I prefer about Tokyo ghoul but honestly what choujin x has makes me prefer it more.
You worded it so beautifully, no art can be created if you're not atleast a little disturbed.
Nah..........@@AW.7475
Tokyo ghoul was a masterpiece to me, really helped me with the boredom I felt in University
Manga was one of the unique stories I've read. indeed the animation ruined it in ways. but some of them weren't terrible. at the end of the day, as longs this manga exists it shall be a great read for me always.
To me Tokyo Ghoul gives me clarity and self-reflection, it inspired my style on how i see things with a new perspective.
It’s special, it makes me happy to feel to be in a world with someone you can relate to.
I love the series especially the first seventh volume. It Will always have a special meaning for me.😊❤
Considering how much that serialization hurt him... I get it, Choujin X is better pacing and development.
That said, Tokyo Ghoul is not mid, not to me at least, I have read thousands of manga, not exaggerating, TG is a story I got attached to, that I felt so much and is still in a place in my heart.
You've read thousands of manga??? Crazy.😳
@noaharthur9041 I've been reading since young age so, not that difficult.
If people think troupes in recent shonen jump series is something new... boy, they haven't read much XD.
Tokyo Ghoul is an inspiration to me
@@soragranda thats a respectable grind.
i love when u do tokyo ghoul videos man takes me back fr
Just because that is his opinion on his own manga, doesn't mean it's mid. It's beyond amazing.
So, I'm currently reading Toyko Ghoul and I was looking for the OST for some needed background music, but come to find your video instead. I was hesitant to watch it because I wanted to see the hype of the manga/art and I just started: RE, but your editing was cool and I decided to send it. This video was not only really fun to watch but very funny. I enjoyed your commentary and how you transitioned Ishida's past to his current project. I wasn't discouraged from finishing Toyko Ghoul, (which was awesome) and I plan to read Choujin X afterward.
Great video, hope to see more!
Ishida is such an incredible artist, and I personally love the feel and visual representation of Tokyo Ghoul. His style is so unique, and of such and incredibly high level. It really seems like I'm glazing, but just look at his drawings of characters from other series.
I always love your visuals 😭
Ishida should try to write a saucy romance manga with a few screws loose. As a Touken enjoyer i think he would be really good at it. 😌
Artistry is an act of love and inspiration so Sui Ishida I resonate with. Being a 23 year old filmmaker I learn everyday. One lesson I gained is to have self confidence since if I didn’t start writing I would have never had the drive to share and slowly finish my debut story.
The good thing about ishida
is that he's always striving to improve whether that be art or story as somone who read part 1 and re choujin x is so much better he's not beating around the bush or getting lost in multiple character side plots or
Forced to pump out a chapter week by week, this is a passion project that's tryna raise his own bar in a creative manner I just wish he'd be less critical of himself cus he's not your average mangaka
It kinda sucks that's his mindset on the series but to me I love the series and think it's a success also happy for him with Choujin X on how that series is going
I regard Tokyo Ghoul as one of the most unique pieces of work in a genre full of unique pieces of work. The original was sublime piece of storytelling and could’ve easily remained a one off. Re was good at trying loose ends but had trouble nailing a satisfying conclusion not unlike AOT but was suitable to the tone nevertheless. Regardless on his personal thoughts his work was part of all of us and we thank him for it even today.
first manga i ever bought the complete set tokyo ghoul will always have a special place in my heart as it got me into manga when i was an anime only at the time
I haven’t even had the time to read choujin x, watching this I realized that I don’t even relax or focus on myself anymore since I started my writing project, even being scared of disappointing everyone. I’m glad to hear ishida is doing better and I’m not on a time restraint like he used to be but it is mentally stressful
It makes me sad that he looks upon Tokyo ghoul negatively but I will always love this manga and his art is up there with Miuras art for me. Also Kanekis character is really relatable to me so it would be hard for Choujin to top it if if ever decide to read it
I had been thinking about something for the past few months. Tokyo Ghoul feels premature. Like Tokyo Ghoul is fine and all but it always felt a bit forced and exaggerated while Choujin X feels more honest and thought out. The inspirations also seem to have evolved in a sense as you can see Christian and other influences that fit in and enhance the story... or whatever I dunno
Fr, it’s like it wanted to be gritty and dark but thought provoking but it fell a bit too short. I also feel it had a real issue with tone. Like, the story felt like it was bouncing around between horror, action and sci-fi but it didn’t really know how to integrate all the themes it was pulling from. It had a great concept but poor execution.
@@w98 Couldn't have said it better!
7:59 YO I FELL OFF MY CHAIR
I’m glad Ishida is in such a better state now but I’m extremely sad that Tokyo Ghoul had to suffer the consequences
Wow... Glad to see a Tokyo Ghoul vidoe again
tokyo ghoul manga is head and shoulders above of 98% manga out there and i dont care even if ishida himseld is dissapointed by it its masterpice choujin x doesnot even compare for now
It's not
You're right, choujin x is lowkey boring
Yeah, Choujin X is very boring. But if he's happy making a manga that is worse than the stuff that put him on the map (Tokyo Ghoul) then more power to him, however, I'm not going to read the rest of it at the pace its going now. I'm not even sure if half of his fans know about Choujin X, but everyone knows Tokyo Ghoul.
Tokyo Ghoul Changed me and It helps mr to relate and understand more that what I can only hope to know
I read the manga from 1st chapter but it was hard keeping up so i put it on hold after 18 chapters, i will eventually get back into it. Glad to know Sui Ishida is doing what he wants to do and hopefully it gives him more creative freedom
I couldn't stop gaping my mouth while I read the Tower of Mourning chapters. The action and paneling and little use of dialogue throughout some scenes was peak.
Tokyo ghoul was huge for my team when we started making our series. Im glad hes in a happy space
TG have many many mistakes, is not perfect, but is completely beatiful. It have that unexplainable something that makes it different to any other manga, the relationship you build with the characters and how well characterized are they is magnificient. Ishida is so talented, and i am very happy to see him work on a project that allow him to give his 100%
Tokyo Ghoul will always have place in my heart, might be nostalgia or something else, all I know is that the first time I read the manga it felt different from other manga which I just binge and feel empty after. Idk what it is but it made me feel differently from other manga
Imo, the manga is a success. The anime' on the other hand...
Chat should I read Tokyo Ghoul?
Yes Yes Yes
Yes
No
100% yes
You're smart about changing your editing style, I hope you're alright
Have you ever read fool night? It's a manga that was recommended by Sui Ishida, makes sense once you actually read.
By far the most unknown of the new gen. And I didn't I didn't know that I was recommended by him. I just saw the manga covers and knew that it was going to be pretty fire.
Man it's sad he felt that way about his art I wish I could make a manga like tg and cx.. This man always good at his craft I'm happy they are out if that state of mind
He’s basically saying he rushed in some parts and wished he hadn’t because he didn’t like the way he did some things but I mean that’s in the past he is now working on a new project but I do hope he plans one day to remake Tokyo ghoul anime but I doubt it but it would be cool to actually see a studio pace the anime well and tell the story right
tokyo ghoul saved my life
yikes
Me too
I became a ghoul in the end
As someone who has read one of his first semi-gag web-comic "Penisman" (or at least as much as I could), I would say there are definitely some old ideas from there that he has reused in Tokyo Ghoul. But he seems like he wanted to express those ideas with more clarity and freedom, and is using Choujin X to perfect that. Ishida has always wanted to craft stories and I'm glad he has the time to do the things he wants and at his own pace.
"Penisman" sounds like a banger fr
@@umbrellaum it unironically kinda is, actually makes u feel empathetic towards the ridiculous characters
I enjoyed it. The anime was the wave back in 2014
Im really sorry that he feels about tokyo ghoul like that but I just love the manga so much... SO MUCH, I'll never let it go. But choujinX us definitely also super good I'm really enjoying it until now and it is already in my personal favourites.
Not liking Tokyo Ghoul is insane but the creator of Tokyo Ghoul has to be a little bit insane to create something like Tokyo Ghoul. Its in no disrespect, I love Tokyo Ghoul and I know Ishida has had a lot of mental health issues so that mixed with stress has most likely distorted his views and perspectives.
TG RE is SPECIAL.
Ishida is better than 99.9% of people that have picked up a pencil
I feel like this is one of those expectations vs reality moments where the author's determination doesn't match what he intended to make. I've created pieces of art where i technically did everything right, but i ended up deeming it almost a complete failure because it didn't click with my expectations in the end. Which leads me to say that achieving that balance between what you expect to come out versus letting the art take you away is what's key to making YOUR personal masterpiece.
As an artist, the above made sense, though as a non-artist, not so much lol. Words.
Edit: tokyo ghoul is my favorite manga. Im really surprised to hear this from ishida since i believe he unintentionally made a top-tier masterpiece of a manga, even if he doesn't like his own work.
your editing is killing it
didn't know I needed this video, good shit.
I read choujin x when only 2 chapters had come out, tokyo ghoul is my favorite manga of all my life so i wanted to see more of ishida and the truth was that it interested me, I read up to chapter 9 but I haven't read it again, I want to see how the story is going now
That's unfortunate to hear, but doesn't change the fact that the TG manga is top tier, one of the best mangas I've ever read
I mean to be fair, a lot of artists end up feeling that way. Being the creator of something gives you access to view your own flaws and parts that need improvement, and whike this is beautiful in its own right, its very common for artists to despise their best peices of work because they couldn't translate what was in their head on the page well enough. But to the outside viewers of the art, its phenomenal, because we dont have that bias. We have the privileged suspension of disbelief that the art conveys what it was meant too, even though the author sees things otherwise. I for one hold tokyo ghoul in very high regard (and yes thats including :re; its actually one of if not my favorite redemption arcs of all time right alongside musashi from vagabond) and adore ishida's most recent work Choujin X as well.
TLDR: Idc what the author thinks because nobody is perfect and i love tokoy ghoul dearly
I feel bad that he couldn’t get the Kubo treatment with the anime. Meaning- the anime should’ve went on indefinite hiatus until the manga was done so Ishida could take a look over the story then fix the holes via the anime- like how Kubo did with bleach.
It’s a shame that the anime doesn’t match up to the quality of the manga and an even bigger shame that Ishida feels like it’s not a great work ://
Well, the anime didn't need an indefinite hiatus. If they had not RUSHED it, the pacing would've been fine. And the fact that they decided to go the uncanon route of some scribbles Ishida did on a piece of paper didn't help.
tokyo ghoul was amazing RE not so much but like you said Ishida was forced to push a chapter weekly and I remember halfway through RE he complained about how its limiting his creativity.
I loce your serious voice but funny editing style lol
Loved reading this Series, especially Tokyo ghoul Re ❤
I lowkey DONT like Tokyo Ghoul much despite being subscribed. I always wanted the series to reach new heights and the potential it had was so sky high in my eyes, but compared to series Neon Genesis Evangelion and Goodnight Punpun (maybe a little unfair of a comparison here on the latter one) I felt it didn’t focus enough on the psychology and relationships of the characters like those stories were able to do so well, which left me feeling like TG has a lot of potential because of the premise and the deeper character based writing it COULDVE had a lot more of. So I’m very excited and happy to see that Ishida has his own artistic vision being realized now.
Well..
I love tokyo ghoul
In my opinion it's a masterpiece, and kaneki is a 10 out of 10
I haven't seen a Suffrents Vid in a hot minute, it is as good as I remember, but why is there so many memes lmao, they everywhere
I think this is the best way for mangakas to produce their stories although I bet the publishers would hate it
Tokyo ghoul
Parasyte: the maximum
Choujin x
Ajin demi-human, Are all my favorite darker themed mangas. Choujin x and Ajin especially which is underrated.
i just wish Ishida to perhaps make an remake with Tokyo Ghoul
I will always look forward to the next season that will never come
i just finished this video and the new choujin x chapter dropped shit is crazy
i havent even finished the tokyo ghoul manga yet and havent even heard of chojin x until this video. but i hope that if chojin gets an anime that its one that shows its masterpiece. tokyo ghoul is a wonder and honestly i think in terms of all the shows and the small handful of animes ive seen/read...tokyo ghoul is top 2 with a little german show called DARK in terms of impact on me. It makes me sad that the tokyo ghoul anime didnt really do service to the manga, and ichida's feelings of imperfection toward tokyo ghoul means a remake is likely not in our future. that being said im happy that he found his joy in creating again. one day ill probably read chojin x and be amazed at ichida once again
I've read a little bit of Choujin X and it's boring for me. It might not be boring for you, but it's not for everyone in his fan base.
It must have been so frustrating having an interesting world and plot but being so restricted that the story can't reach its full potential
Sad to hear Ishida isn't happy with TG, probably one of, if not my favourite manga. Jump needs to chill out with the deadlines, the workload obviously isn't healthy for the authors or their assistants. Glad to hear he's found his own groove instead of getting caught in the rabbit hole of serialisation. Will definitely read Choujin X, would read anything that man puts out.
I really miss the old sufferents thumbnail art man your the god of thumbnail your creative is just mind blowing I have said this before but plzzz do you old creative thumbnail again your art itz too unique man plzz
Tokyo ghoul was amazing to me and its aesthetic and overall vibe is forever memorable to me regardless of what anyone says itll always have a special place in my heart and memory even though its fiction
Could it be the reason why Kaneki always gets abused by his friends ? Was it some sort of vengeance of Ishida's part ?
I never knew I needed Goofy ah Tokyo ghoul video by sufferents
That’s impossible to watch. The text is interesting but my brain just hurts due to the visuals
Based artist. Should not have ended it prematurely
Just some lil feedback: I know it’s your style of editing but honestly I would appreciate a cleaner edit with clips suiting the script, just because I honestly sometimes find the random stuff pretty distracting while watching.
Nonetheless bomb script and story telling as always!❤
Dude these edits are really gonna have me unsub, I can’t stand it
Finished TG 3 days ago and currently reading :re. This was my first experience of a tragedy ending and I didn't know re was a continuation. I felt empty after reading the ending. I started reading TG from the impression that its one of those power fantasy manga's where the mc gets all powerfull and whoops everbody's ass onwards. And Oh boy was I wrong. Ma man Kaneki took a big fat L in that last arc. While I had the anxiety of the possibility that Kaneki might end up dying ever since I read the Kano's lab arc where Kaneki went bat shit crazy and since Kaneki felt like he had given too much to his ghoul side ever since the 11 ward aogiri attack arc. But man, this dude left his friends, couldn't save Yoshimura and ended up pretty much being responsible for Amon's whole situation and then went ahead and died too. I thought he was gonna get all powerfull and beat Arima at the last arc but shit turned into one sided massacre. Didn't know Arima was on a different lvl than any other character. Bro casually walked up to the Owl and low diffed his ass.
Season 2 of tokyo ghoul is in my top 10 anime of all time and its not even cannon. Idk whether to laugh or cry...
Tokyo ghoul is my fav piece of fiction there is
I don't think Ishida really hates TG itself or thinks it's "mid" I think he feels like he couldn't express himself the way he wanted with it or/and it didn't turn out exactly the way he wanted and planned combined also with all the extreme stress and preassure he had everywhere, it was more like a bad experience he had while doing it, and his feelings are completely valid but that doesn't actually immediately means that TG is bad and It's so sad that he didn't got to genuinely enjoy doing it, he also had improved a lot from TG to TGre and personally TGre has my favorite art in a manga I've ever seen bcs it really is so ethereal and so unique
Everyone should read Choujin X, nice video
7:10 what's the music back there? Sounds like something from Blade Runner.
TG is peak. My favorite series ever
throughout re you could tell he just wasnt interested in it and wanted to complete it as fast as possible
Bro not criticising your style just wondering what’s up with all the random black memes in the background, they are distracting and have little to no relevance to what’s being said on screen. Don’t get me wrong, I love a black meme, but when discussing the subject of a famous artist struggles within his artistic journey, having black meme in the back drop will create confusion and cognitive dissonance rather than interest and engagement.