Why A Manga Genius Abandoned His Masterpiece

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  • @RelativelyBest
    @RelativelyBest 7 місяців тому +519

    Ah, I think I see the problem. Vagabond needs more basketball scenes.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  7 місяців тому +32

      yes

    • @That_One_MF_0
      @That_One_MF_0 Місяць тому +29

      Imagine Musahi dunking on his opponents 💀

    • @EBBX.
      @EBBX. Місяць тому +10

      Imagine Musashi Jordans (sandals actually)

    • @peaceweapon1933
      @peaceweapon1933 23 дні тому +3

      *baseball 😂

    • @genn8062
      @genn8062 20 днів тому

      @@EBBX.The Miyamoto 1s

  • @julio1148
    @julio1148 Рік тому +6428

    I feel like the manga industry would benefit from a seasonal approach to their serialized projects. Like take a quarter off the year from production to slow down and prepare for the next season. Do this staggered accross authors so there is always content in the magazines

    • @danielg.w5733
      @danielg.w5733 Рік тому +413

      There are magazines rhat do this actually. Monthly Seinen and alternative magazines often allow there authors to have irregular release schedules or the even the magazine itself will only come out every other month. Comic Beam is like that and so was monthly ikki (just to name a few). Weekly Manga is just the most popular cause people are impatient haha

    • @PrismCasillica
      @PrismCasillica Рік тому +291

      This would be great across the entire manga industry. I remember when my favorite shoujo mangaka retired early because her young daughter asked if she loved working on manga more than being a mom.
      Plus with how many authors have crippled themselves and died early I'm concerned on a whole for the industry.

    • @ShouryaRathore
      @ShouryaRathore Рік тому +28

      @@PrismCasillica Aww that must suck,although she could have shifted magazines to move to a more seasonal magazine within the same publication,like moving from jump weekly to jump plus,but I guess that isn't always an available option

    • @Rosso4654
      @Rosso4654 Рік тому +58

      The industry wouldn't benefit from it, but the creators would. That's why the change isn't being made.

    • @julio1148
      @julio1148 Рік тому +93

      @@Rosso4654 the industry would benefit long term since it's a sustainability issue - artists are literally their most valuable assets, if they drop like flies and rely on the less-than-handful that can keep up then they're slowly dying already.
      I'm really curious what will happen to Shonen Jump when Oda retires, are they going to pray for another one like him to show up? Or are they happy with the IPs that loose steam around 200-300 chapters? I can count in one hand the amount of weekly manga that ended as well as they started

  • @ren_sensei
    @ren_sensei Рік тому +7200

    As an author myself, there's a kind of emotional burden we have to carry in order to see thru the lens of the characters all to breath life into the story. The mc Musashi, clearly is not an easy character to write. You need to be equally capable of handling the emotional stress that character is having in order to understand its journey. That's the kind of toll Takehiko is taking in the creation of Vagabond.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +476

      I appreciate the perspective man. I can only imagine how tough it is, which is why I really feel for Inoue. Ty for watching 🙏

    • @ren_sensei
      @ren_sensei Рік тому +127

      @@dylcor Thanks for creating the videos as well, appreciate your analysis and perspective as well. Keep making~

    • @sboinkthelegday3892
      @sboinkthelegday3892 Рік тому +44

      I feel this when reading Welcome To The Ballroom. I bet if that series was as popualr as Slam Dunk, Japan would solve its population crisis.

    • @nIhIl34
      @nIhIl34 Рік тому +98

      Miura: 💀

    • @temin2776
      @temin2776 Рік тому +3

      Do you write books?

  • @TaintedMarth
    @TaintedMarth Рік тому +3695

    I totally get why he hasn't picked it up yet. It makes no sense to work on something when you don't feel like it at the moment, it will only bring forth a product that is worse in quality compared to the former stuff.
    Great documentary dyl. Loved it.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +59

      Thank you so much marth greatly appreciate it

    • @Z48654
      @Z48654 Рік тому +60

      At the same time that’s not a good way to deal with artist/writers block. You have to force yourself to do something.

    • @CptEddyPrice
      @CptEddyPrice Рік тому +39

      I disagree. If I didn't show up to the gym because I didn't feel like it, I would achieve nothing. Same with art or writing. It's about showing up ( unless you are burned out and just want to take a break )

    • @robertnomok9750
      @robertnomok9750 Рік тому +6

      I feal like REAL is a more importan manga with a better morale and topic barely anyon touches. Compared to that Vagabound is just a lesser thing. Maybe he thinks so as well and focuses only on it for now.

    • @TaintedMarth
      @TaintedMarth Рік тому

      I think the process of creating something in a creative way and working out is entirely different. I don't think it makes sense to compare them.
      But even then, you should always consider that people work differently. While you might achieve great thinks while forcing yourself through it, someone else might need some breaks from time to time to get to the same result.@@CptEddyPrice

  • @jotarojoestar898
    @jotarojoestar898 Рік тому +1363

    Yup, Slam Dunk was the reason why I played basketball and why I tried to join the school team back then. Even though I was not good, and I didn't end up on the team, I still had a sense of direction in my life and wanted to do something. That was really what gave me the motivation to try to achieve something for the first time in my life back then. Those were the days and Slam Dunk will be one of the most important manga that helped to shape up my life.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +52

      That’s incredible man thank you for sharing. It’s great to see how that passion passes through people, it started with Inoue falling in love with basketball, then he put it into his manga, and inspired many fans just like you. Thank you for watching

    • @passbyicecube
      @passbyicecube Рік тому +17

      It's all the way around for me, I skipped classes and went to play basket ball for how much I love basket ball through the manga, never intended to join school team, did end up become the best free throw player for a very long time (94%). Nearly failed my high school graduation, but never blame basket ball for it.

    • @Tien1million
      @Tien1million Рік тому +9

      I never read the manga, but I do love the Slam Dunk anime. We use to play basketball almost every day at the park with a bunch of strangers who loved the game. Such great times back then.

    • @wetlettuce8215
      @wetlettuce8215 Рік тому +4

      you were good just that they were better

    • @kimmuwai1041
      @kimmuwai1041 9 місяців тому +2

      i thought i was the only one who started a sport because of anime lol

  • @thesunthrone
    @thesunthrone Рік тому +1338

    Honestly, the hardest thing about Vagabond and continuing it is that it... honestly can just end at any point. In a way, most of the essence was already said in the first few arcs, and what happens after is just reiteration of the same themes, same meditations in greater detail. The arcs are so self-sufficient, so intense with visual and Buddhist metaphor that you don't even really need to see how it ends to "get it". I've read it up to volume 20, and even at this little-over-half point I feel like I have experienced a true work of art that urges you to look within with each encounter, and is only richer the more life experience you as a reader have.
    So how do you conceivably deliver more of *that*? Even if Inoue does not draw another chapter of Vagabond, it has cemented its place in history as one of the absolute peaks of the medium.

    • @bobbobby475
      @bobbobby475 Рік тому +57

      Ys I feel like this happens when a story is more character driven then plot driven

    • @mramisuzuki6962
      @mramisuzuki6962 Рік тому +19

      This what you gotta be like Sword of the Immortal and just end it. 9 years after you want to.
      Wait until.

    • @MrMagnaniman
      @MrMagnaniman Рік тому +37

      I'll definitely check it out.
      I was a fan of the Earthsea series by Ursula K Le Guin when I was a kid. At one point, she declared that she was completely done with the series. 20 years later, she came out with a collection of short stories and a novel, all set in Earthsea, basically saying, "I guess I wasn't done with it after all."
      As long as there isn't a compelling plot, just left hanging, I think that a hiatus is totally fine. There's no need to arbitrarily end something that you may come back to, even if you have no immediate plans of coming back to it.

    • @danielfunes2419
      @danielfunes2419 Рік тому +17

      You're right but all the events lead to the culmination of Musashi vs kojiro.

    • @n4ughty_knight
      @n4ughty_knight Рік тому +5

      I can't believe he's gonna wuss out before the Musashi vs Kojiro fight. That's literally the only interesting thing that can happen in the story. Of course, since the manga is very different from the novel, Kojiro is deaf instead of being a complete psychopath, so it would be interesting to see what kind of excuse the manga would use in order to kill off someone who is handicapped.

  • @fionatsang9353
    @fionatsang9353 Рік тому +626

    Funny story: I was hired by a writer to draw a comic he was working on that was set in Heian era Japan. He told me that Kurosawa's movies, especially the Samurai trilogy, were a big inspiration. I'm not a movie buff, but I was very familiar with the Vagabond manga, so I looked to it as a guide for my art style and getting right historical details of feudal Japan. It was only when the writer and I started talking about how I would draw a panel where a character is hung from a tree that we realized the Samurai films and Vagabond manga had identical plots because they were both adapted from the same novel, a fictional retelling of the life of Musashi. We had a good laugh over how we had unknowingly been on the exact same page but in two different media!

    • @Hot.Cocoa_0
      @Hot.Cocoa_0 11 місяців тому +30

      that's so cool! can you tell us the name of the comic you worked on?

    • @capitalburst245
      @capitalburst245 10 місяців тому +3

      cap

    • @lebrondavis1420
      @lebrondavis1420 10 місяців тому +3

      @@capitalburst245how do you know that?

    • @ghagzor
      @ghagzor 10 місяців тому +11

      Its cap because there are only 1 or 2 musashi movies. Most samurai movies are 47 ronin, 7 samurai, yohimbo, etc.

    • @capitalburst245
      @capitalburst245 10 місяців тому +2

      @@lebrondavis1420 Guess

  • @Rociel
    @Rociel Рік тому +439

    Thank you for making this and showing sensei such compassion. It’s easy for people to say just draw the damn manga already. But as an artist myself, I related to everything he’s going through on such a painful level. When something means too much to you, and to top it off you have a perfectionism issue, and feel this enormous pressure brought upon by the expectations yourself and others have on you, the weight is unbearable and it truly becomes a crippling paralysis.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +16

      Thank you for your comment! I'm glad I've seen so many people in the comments showing compassion towards Inoue

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 9 місяців тому +1

      @Rociel, are you an artist for a manga, out of curiosity?

    • @Sakurasan2023
      @Sakurasan2023 Місяць тому

      Manga is INCREDIBLY hard

  • @stupidmonkey089
    @stupidmonkey089 Рік тому +2325

    There's a certain sad irony in that Inoue's approach to Vagabond is similar to Miyamoto's journey before he made his realization in the story

    • @albertoandrade9807
      @albertoandrade9807 Рік тому +7

      What do you mean

    • @notrelevant6702
      @notrelevant6702 Рік тому +332

      I was just thinking that. Vagabond has such a profound arc how clinging to perfection and expectation and purity is the inhibitor of progress and maybe happiness yet this seem to be something the very man who brought us this arc in Takezo is wrestling with 😮🤔

    • @kunkker77
      @kunkker77 11 місяців тому +153

      @@notrelevant6702 He could save others from the futile pursuit of perfection, but not himself. Ironic

    • @faisalsukhtian1932
      @faisalsukhtian1932 10 місяців тому +31

      ⁠@@notrelevant6702But even this realisation can be a bit more complicated than one would like it to be. Because the barrier between “doesn’t have to be 100% perfect” and “just letting go and slacking hard on my IP by churning terrible additions to it” can be pretty thin(looking at you modern Ubisoft games). So the question on your primary line bordering perfection being too high a task or even unsubstantial is: how far below will my next line gonna be? Good? Average? Terrible?
      But hey, maybe I’m thinking too hard on an irrelevant aspect of the situation so 🤷

    • @TipoIrritable
      @TipoIrritable 8 місяців тому +7

      @@notrelevant6702 He was just tired and wanted a Basketball manga.

  • @davidnguyen1848
    @davidnguyen1848 Рік тому +143

    The hardest part about the indefinite hiatus was just how close to completion it was. It really was just the last fight left. There are plenty of adaptations of the novel, most notably the critically acclaimed Samurai Trilogy starring Toshiro Mifune, so the conclusion is out there i guess but inoue's stunning art adds so much to that story.

    • @GameArts1
      @GameArts1 8 місяців тому +3

      I thought those were based on Musashi, a novel by Eiji Yoshikawa? Or do you mean just Musashi's journey overall?

    • @random.random
      @random.random 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@GameArts1Vagabond is based on the novel and the movies too. Ending is known to all but would be great if it can get done the manga

  • @deowardiman
    @deowardiman Рік тому +372

    I'd rather have an unfinished masterpiece than a masterpiece that slowly turns to shit

  • @acemendoza3898
    @acemendoza3898 Рік тому +125

    Like most people I came to know Takehiko Inoe through Slam Dunk. How you put his apprehension in completing Vagabond is great. Thanks for making me like the guy even more!! Every time I see a spread page of Vagabond is like masterpiece in itself. Thanks again for making his struggles more understandable.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +5

      Thank you for watching!

    • @SplitGoose
      @SplitGoose 22 дні тому

      ​@@dylcor What the fuck was the point of this content? You left the real content for the final 30 seconds and its was a godshit opinion too

  • @20tetsuo77
    @20tetsuo77 Рік тому +264

    I just wanna say one thing, Inoue has assistants and does not draw his backgrounds, so his backgrounds are still drawn in pen by the time he switches to brush in 15, and I believe there's still some pen work in some of the panels. I'm not sure when he fully makes the switch to brush, but it's definitely not long after this. So, inoue does all the characters, the assistants do all the backgrounds, which are not in brush unless the scene calls for it (which he might also do himself)

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +25

      very true, but the brush detail also extends to his character illustrations

    • @20tetsuo77
      @20tetsuo77 Рік тому +15

      ​@@dylcor that's what I meant, he does the characters in brush but not the backgrounds

  • @ahipmom3104
    @ahipmom3104 Рік тому +231

    Inoue should reread Musashi, he'd probably find his enjoyment again since he's appropriately following a similar arc to the novel version of Musashi, who reconciles his personal quest and achieves his goal through a lateral idea.

    • @pieterlindeque7798
      @pieterlindeque7798 Рік тому +20

      There are many ways to the top of the mountain indeed.

    • @nandaiser
      @nandaiser Рік тому +6

      I actually think about the same thing when watching the video

    • @100navat
      @100navat 8 місяців тому +7

      I would be very surprised if he doesn't constantly refer back to the book since the manga is based off it.

  • @BertoPlease
    @BertoPlease Рік тому +17

    I appreciate this being a non-spoilery history of this. I haven't started reading Vagabond yet, while it's definitely on the top priority list, I just don't want to start another manga series with indefinite future rn (Berserk and HxH manga reader...). I probably will soon anyway but I was definitely curious why it was currently on hiatus, so was a pleasant surprise seeing this on my feed

  • @gipro1
    @gipro1 Рік тому +241

    I fully respect his need to distance himself from his work. I really thought the manga was considered finished where it left off. Hearing you recount his recent interview where he states he intends to return to it someday is incredibly relieving.

    • @eli3949
      @eli3949 10 місяців тому +3

      We all know inoue never gunna finish vagabond sadly 😞

    • @OrroHelhammer
      @OrroHelhammer 8 місяців тому +2

      The creator of berserk said the same thing.....

    • @Braian9887
      @Braian9887 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@OrroHelhammer sadly him die for casuality before berserk end, dont are the same history

    • @floatingdisembodiedhead8975
      @floatingdisembodiedhead8975 7 місяців тому +3

      Whether he returns to it or not, Vagabond will always be up there as one of the great mangas. Imo the most beautifully drawn manga I've ever load my eyes upon, even better than most comic book and manga nowadays.

    • @imsentinelprime9279
      @imsentinelprime9279 5 місяців тому +2

      Still sucks for the fans though. Imagine being a engineer and then quitting on a project you were assigned because you don't feel like it. At that point why even start it if you aren't going to try to see it through.

  • @Lavender_FGC
    @Lavender_FGC 11 місяців тому +7

    Phenomenal video, I could really hear the passion in your voice when you spoke on how ordinary it is to feel so much pressure and fear when it comes to finishing something that is regarded as your greatest work. I am humongous fan of Inoue and of Vagabond, and I constantly tell people to read it to this day, even though I know its quite possible that it is never truly finished. It's that great.

  • @Vorzac
    @Vorzac Рік тому +19

    Dylcor, I cannot thank you enough! This video really helped reassure me in my own struggles as a creator. Without getting to self-indulgent; I've spent over a decade working on my own Magnum Opus - A story that I may not even publish, but is still deeply personal and important to me. Working on something with such self-imposed importance is isolating and often demoralising. I feel like I can sympathise with Inoue's position somewhat, where doing your concept and ideas “Justice” can drive a creator to maladaptive perfectionism and even avoidance. This video help me realise I'm not alone in this, and that solidarity is so very inspiring. I am in your debt, my friend!

    • @josephjones5800
      @josephjones5800 Рік тому +2

      I hope one day, when you're ready, you feel like you can share it with others!

  • @randomblackbutton
    @randomblackbutton Рік тому +35

    As someone who wants to get into Vagabond but read about its ongoing hiatus, I'm so glad someone covered this topic in the way that you did. This video provides a logical and respectful amount of speculation as to where his motivations lie.
    Even if it's been said a lot already, I still would like to say that this video is very well edited, paced, and written. One can feel the level of respect and research you put into this video essay delving into such an interesting point of focus on a mangaka as culturally significant as Inoue-sensei.
    This is my first video from your channel that was ever recommended to me and I'm glad I clicked on it. You have my sub and like, looking forward to your future videos. Cheers!

    • @ryanspence5831
      @ryanspence5831 Рік тому +4

      It is worth reading. Even if it never gets a climax, it is a mature work. If you want to give yourself a blessing then read it.

  • @onemanteaparty409
    @onemanteaparty409 Рік тому +141

    My man, this is incredible. Your storytelling and editing is out of this world, holy crap. Gotta get you popping off.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +8

      Thank you man, I really appreciate that! Put a lot of work into this one

    • @ImchautzuCHAUTZU
      @ImchautzuCHAUTZU Рік тому +6

      Speaking of storytelling, I recommend checking out his video "How stories can change lives"
      It's a banger!

  • @tiiramisu2464
    @tiiramisu2464 Рік тому +8

    Thanks for making this! I always love learning more about Inoue

  • @mladen8127
    @mladen8127 Рік тому +17

    Great video!
    There are interesting parallels with Inoue and Takezo's journey in the manga - learning from masters and then surpassing them, sickness and slow recovery, mellowing with age, striving for perfection... I feel like once Inoue has gone through what he needs to go through, he'll be ready to authentically tackle those final chapters.

  • @thonyarriecheg
    @thonyarriecheg Рік тому +12

    These artists being so creative and prolific, it has to be hard to make compelling art at the same time they don't feel they have to or it's their job to create it. It's burnout! I really appreciate how he's taking time away until he feels like what he did is what he wants it to be. Art is a very personal exercise.

  • @TaqiyahIman
    @TaqiyahIman 8 місяців тому +3

    halfway through but thank you so much for this video essay, vagabond is such a special manga in my life, and Inoue's decision to ink it is something i seriously appreciate. his brush strokes are so meditative, I don't know how to explain it, but reading the manga while enjoying every linework he meticulously has placed on the paper is a whole other level of experiencing discipline and the desire to be perfectionist. everytime i read the manga again, i just feel like i'm going through a saint's prayers. maybe it's too reverent of a description
    Edit: As an artist myself, I get it...I was sad, but after hearing his lamentations abt how he needs to enjoy to make manga again, I really get it. Art is so painful when you have no desire to create. Not sadness, not happiness, but no desire. Especially imagining someone like Inoue, who has made so much and probably been so productive, it must be really painful to be unable to work on it despite knowing he could do it. He's made 34 volumes, I will be content with that. The fact that he even shared his works and still produces such good quality is enough proof of his love, and I hope he seeks love wherever else he can until the desire comes back. And if it never does, it's still more than okay. Nobody did what he did, and that alone is amazing

  • @Crysis1334
    @Crysis1334 5 місяців тому +8

    4:44 Love that Miura is in this picture as well. Amazing.

  • @animeballsdeep
    @animeballsdeep Рік тому +208

    Great video ❤

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +23

      Hey, thank you!! I've been watching ABD since I was like 14 years old lmao, so seeing this comment is pretty crazy.

    • @animeballsdeep
      @animeballsdeep Рік тому +21

      ​@@dylcorthank you for the kind words 🙏☺️

  • @a.soraparu773
    @a.soraparu773 Рік тому +32

    Thanks for the content. Vagabond is amazing, and I respect Inoue for wanting to complete a series with a high standard, and not just because of external pressure. At least he is enjoying doing what he loves. Thats most important.

  • @bursegsardaukar
    @bursegsardaukar 10 місяців тому +3

    That also happens to the Guyver manga. Nobody knows why it wasn't continued but rumors say that the author quit and went back to being a dentist after the death of his patner...

  • @pickles168
    @pickles168 Рік тому +15

    Great video. Inoue did a Vagabond art exhibition in 2008 where he drew and displayed an epilogue for the manga (presumably set after where it would eventually finish). Its availabile online and is a beautiful read. He included a bit about his feelings towards the manga in it too

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I’m aware of the exhibition chapter. I didn’t Include it in the video because… well it’s not really a conclusive ending to the story. It’s good stuff, but it’s more of a separate thing than an ending

  • @Renzob0nd
    @Renzob0nd Рік тому +7

    I just recently finished vagabond and honestly it’s my favorite story I’ve consumed this video was very informative and well edited gives me motivation to get back on my UA-cam grind too ! Keep up the good content bro

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +1

      I'm so glad!

  • @tendaimsimang8630
    @tendaimsimang8630 Рік тому +69

    Inoue seems to be following the path of the character Musashi in Vagabond.
    Finding the meaning of life and identity outside the pen and sword.
    Sometimes fictional characters must die, so that real people may live.
    A resurrection to Vagabond may come, but his peace of mind is what we should pray for principally .
    But if you think about it, we all have an idea where this story may go.
    Look at Guts, Thorfinn, Vash
    Self sacrifice and the pursuit of peace above all, is the true path of a spiritual warrior, they just have to realise it.
    From shedding blood, to giving it. From hate to love.
    Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
    John 15:13
    They will follow the path of Buddha and Jesus with a bit more blood involved.

    • @0ldar
      @0ldar 11 місяців тому

      Wish you wouldnt bring religion into it, violent stories meant to genocide others so the 'chosen ones' may live on is the antithesis to the message you said before. Also check out Slavoj Zizek's take on Buddhism being a sociopathic religion.

  • @ramaluminus
    @ramaluminus Рік тому +13

    I know this video mainly talking about Vagabond but, oh my god Real is just emotional roller coaster, I don't know how many times I've read it while tears flowing down through my cheek, especially the wrestling match, it's just so heartbreaking but also inspiring at the same time.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      Real is one of the few manga I’ve cried to. It’s just phenomenal, has some of my favourite characters in anything

    • @MauriceLuk-zw1zv
      @MauriceLuk-zw1zv 4 місяці тому

      Some of the lines, too! Like the father told the main character why the hand have five fingers of different sizes and functions as shown in a basketball team!

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames Рік тому +76

    Inoue and G.R.R.M are different. Also there is a difference between writers that look at writing as a job, as opposed to writers that believe they need to be “inspired”. Any artist in the latter camp is pretty much relegated to having a very low oeuvre, and beginning artist will probably never ever complete anything because the perfect conditions to create are almost never going to emerge. So you create because you have to create whether you feel like it or not.

    • @jamesbenson2090
      @jamesbenson2090 Рік тому +2

      Exactly that is something myself as a creative struggle with at 29

    • @kunkker77
      @kunkker77 11 місяців тому +5

      William Faulkner: “I only write when inspiration strikes. Fortunately it strikes at nine every morning.”

    • @Chadius_Thundercock
      @Chadius_Thundercock 10 місяців тому

      One wrote one of the most important pieces of media in the 21st century and the other writes incest porn with magic. Not the same

    • @Ghozt5563
      @Ghozt5563 6 місяців тому

      As an amateur (not beginner anymore) artist who only draws with inspiration (I tried discipline, doesn't work for me), the easiest way for me to find it is to learn about new techniques, because it makes me want to try them out immediately. This does lead to a lot of unfinished art though, as well as inconsistent style, but it's more enjoyable and makes learning kind of inevitable.

    • @SCMSD
      @SCMSD 2 місяці тому

      GRRM is a talentless hack don't compare him to Inoue who very clearly has talent.

  • @XxjeffersonDkidxX
    @XxjeffersonDkidxX Рік тому +32

    “The perfect manga, huh? There is no such thing as perfect in this world. That may sound cliché, but it’s the truth. The average person admires perfection and seeks to obtain it. But, what’s the point of achieving perfection? There is none. Nothing. Not a single thing. I loathe perfection! If something is perfect, then there is nothing left. There is no room for imagination. No place left for a person to gain additional knowledge or abilities. Do you know what that means? For artists such as ourselves, perfection only brings despair. It is our job to create things more wonderful than anything before them, but never to obtain perfection. A artist must be a person who finds ecstasy while suffering from that antimony." - Tite Kubo favorite character Mayuri Kurotsuchi

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +3

      He’s spitting facts 🔥🙏

  • @mattwith4ts
    @mattwith4ts 10 місяців тому +9

    This was great. I guess I don't need to make an Inoue video now.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you man ! I love your channel I can’t believe you commented on my video 🙏🙏

    • @JeromeProductions
      @JeromeProductions Місяць тому

      What a cameo!

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ Рік тому +5

    Vagabond has gotten so spiritual and contemplative, I feel like he's motivationally done with it. The character organically reached such a serene state.

  • @therealKrak
    @therealKrak Рік тому +11

    I don't like reading mangas too much because they are mainly black & white but Vagabond cought my attention with it's awesome art style.
    I really like how you depicted the struggle of artists with their perfectionism and how it dauntes us to not achieve our own standards and therefore makes us procrastinate.
    It was really spot on.

    • @JVision1
      @JVision1 11 місяців тому +1

      Do you like webtoons?

    • @therealKrak
      @therealKrak 11 місяців тому +4

      @@JVision1 I'd say so. Especially Manhwas, although I don't know if there is a difference, all I know is that's the korean form of mangas.

    • @JeromeProductions
      @JeromeProductions Місяць тому

      @@therealKrak well there is a difference in the sense that not all webtoons are Korean made

  • @6tiple6ix6afia
    @6tiple6ix6afia 8 місяців тому +4

    My wife is from Isehara, Kanagawa, and after watching this video I asked her if she read Slam Dunk in school (because i knew she played basketball in middle and HS). She said everyone on her team read it constantly

  • @Juriismywife
    @Juriismywife Рік тому +41

    Kinda sad most people know him for Vagabond and Slam Dunk, but few mention REAL, which is insanely good, arguably just as good as Vagabond, if not better at some points.
    Recentl, it seems he will pick up the pace to draw REAL for the next months on schedule, hopefully this will motivate him to give Vagabond some love too, but honestly, even if Vagabond ended there I wouldn't mind, the last arc was peak because it explored the meaning of true strength, that goes beyond slashing enemies with the sword like Musashi thought for so long.

    • @ibbtancred
      @ibbtancred 11 місяців тому +6

      No you’re so right 💀 people act as if he never writes now as if REAL doesn’t exist. it’s probably my favourite work of his as well

    • @tun4774
      @tun4774 11 місяців тому

      i agree too,REAL need more regognition

    • @Chadius_Thundercock
      @Chadius_Thundercock 10 місяців тому +1

      I heard that he’s gonna finish REAL then go back to Vegabond. Idk if it’s true though

    • @saaimhaider8703
      @saaimhaider8703 9 місяців тому

      Real is fucking goated, genuinely has some of the most emotional chapters I've ever read. Inoue only delivers peak

    • @imsentinelprime9279
      @imsentinelprime9279 5 місяців тому

      Not s sports amanga/anime fan. So I pass. Unless it's Hajime no ippo

  • @NotKoiy
    @NotKoiy 11 місяців тому +3

    Insanely well edited video, great job. Looking forward to see more content.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому +45

    I understand as an illustrator and artist to want to make Peak work but make it satisfying at the same time. You can't just rush something when you want to make sure it's at your best. I understand he's been given a lot of time to work on his masterpiece, so hopefully he's been able to reflect on what methods who wants to continue doing so in the future. With that said, Im sure he'll get that spark again that will help his creativity Blossom even further!

  • @ProfSir1
    @ProfSir1 Рік тому +12

    I’ve written two of three books in a trilogy. The third book is stressing me out more than the first two because it’s the end. It’s the send off. It’s supposed to be the best one.
    That kind of stress doesn’t leave, and I understand someone else’s desire to step away.

  • @riahisama
    @riahisama 9 місяців тому +3

    No wonder Vagabond feels like an experience rather than a normal manga, it all makes sense.

  • @Woefuleternal
    @Woefuleternal Рік тому +16

    Such a great & compelling video. From the points being made to the editing, and everything in between. Not only did you inspire me to pick up Inoue's other works but lit the flame the resides inside myself. To create something. Thank you for being you and giving us such a masterpiece, you deserve a lot more attention.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +2

      This is the most kindhearted comment I’ve ever received on this channel. Thank you for watching, and I hope you stick around.
      Please, create something! Do it! You can do great stuff, put in the work and it’ll be worth it.

    • @Woefuleternal
      @Woefuleternal Рік тому +2

      @@dylcor thanks a bunch. I'll always be here supporting you, i'm already looking forward to your next upload!

  • @_Bees
    @_Bees Рік тому +5

    you really described well the artist struggle bro...
    I want to make aswell, but definitely feeling the same feelings as Inoue. I don't know his experience, his life or anything, but I can sympathise with him.
    Not to the degree of knowing the external pressures, but the internal pressures.

  • @LouieGrind
    @LouieGrind Рік тому +4

    I think that the greater the manga is, and the more the artist revere/love his/hers creation, the less they are willing to compromise and want it to be perfect. This is a very hard task to achieve and will create long hiatuses because it's that more challenging to create a chapter that you're actually satisfied with. There's a reason there's such a big difference in quality between ex. Vagabond and the weekly Shonen's.

  • @DXDragon38
    @DXDragon38 11 місяців тому +2

    What a well constructed video!
    I had no idea how Inoue-sensei felt, and I can fully understand why he found it necessary to step away from them.
    I hope one day he can find enjoyment once again in his work and finish them, not just for us fans, but for himself.

  • @mbrowww
    @mbrowww 11 місяців тому +4

    This is crazy well made, keep it up man. 🔥

  • @fr0styfgc861
    @fr0styfgc861 Рік тому +2

    This was a great, well told short story. UA-cam algorithm loves this stuff, keep it up.

  • @eunhyuekpark6159
    @eunhyuekpark6159 Рік тому +3

    Vagabond I'm still holding hope for, its so damn good! This also reminds me of Ai Yazawa gonig on Hiatus from Nana....both heartbreaking! Great episode my dood.

  • @aintijustthecutest3863
    @aintijustthecutest3863 10 місяців тому +2

    I absolutely love Vagabond, as much as his previous work, Slam Dunk, as it was part of my childhood.
    I was deeply saddened when I heard it went on a definite hiatus, but hearing from you that Inoue sensei hasn't completely abandoned it, has given me hope that someday I'll be able to continue and hopefully finish reading this masterpiece.

  • @dislikebutton3599
    @dislikebutton3599 Рік тому +3

    I absolutely didn't expect such a low number of subscribers when I exied the full screen at the end of the video.
    You did an incredible job, thank you and please keep going.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +1

      Wow, thank you!

  • @retrowhisper
    @retrowhisper Рік тому +5

    Takehiko Inoue is a genius and can't wait for Vagabond to come back. Great video

  • @Hello-ug6bx
    @Hello-ug6bx 11 місяців тому +23

    I have more respect for any authors/writers that willing to quit their masterpiece work rather than those who are rushing to finish it. It sucks when some writers actually start off good but then flop just because they want to get over it and not care about the plot, reputation, or the writing anymore. For me, Takehiko Inoue understands how important writing is so he decided to stop because he doesn't want to ruin the perfect narrative of Vagabond. When you care for its narrative, it means you're respecting the characters, as well as the fans who look upon it. I'd prefer to read an unfinished work over to read a story that is doomed to fall at the end. It's sad to see unfinished work, but I cannot say "no" to those kinds of writers who know the quality of writing.

  • @baelayet
    @baelayet Рік тому +2

    been wondering for a long time what happened to Vagabond and why it hasn't been picked up yet. thanks for the video man! learned a lot, take love!!!

  • @wajeh1987able
    @wajeh1987able 7 місяців тому +4

    funny how from 2015 till around 2019 I kept coming monthly back to a manga' site to see if there;s a new chapter maybe .. the last time I check it was around 2022 then I stopped

  • @P1015532oni
    @P1015532oni Рік тому +2

    I’ve read the Eiji Yoshikawa novel first before I read Vagabond. I remembered being so enamoured by the novel, falling in love with the story and becoming invested in the characters. When I finally discovered Vagabond, I cried with happiness. I could not believe how a manga artist completely captured how I portrayed the novel in my mind, yet there it was. Details of the story varies a bit, of course. I loved the loud-mouth arrogant Sasaki Kojiro in the novel, but I was just as equally impressed with the deaf-dumb version in the manga. It’s like seeing two parallel realities of the story happening at once before me.

  • @Smitty19966
    @Smitty19966 Рік тому +3

    This was awesome in-depth analysis of Takehiko Inoue. Good job! 👍

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      Thank you very much!

  • @Tsunamimiko
    @Tsunamimiko 6 місяців тому +1

    This makes me want to cry😭 I love Takehiko Inoue’s passion for his craft and his interests. I began playing basketball because of slam dunk and the representation of a team working hard together made me want to get better at Judo as well. I am an artist as well and I have been struggling with always wanting to make everything perfect but I am slowly getting used to not making every line and detail perfect but instead getting my ideas across on the page. I hope he can find some more peace in his heart.

  • @elkhrist
    @elkhrist Рік тому +5

    Great video! I recently finished reading the book Musashi, it gave me the closure I needed.
    I can now patiently wait for the manga.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      thanks for watching! I still need to get around to reading it, I know its gonna be great

  • @angelocosta6649
    @angelocosta6649 Рік тому +2

    Honestly, that "what if" of Musashi's death/manga's ending was so moving, so stunningly beautiful and well written that I'm ok with it being the end. It makes no sense for Takehiko writing without being in love with it because this love was precisely what made the manga so special

  • @cexeodus
    @cexeodus Рік тому +6

    Of course it was Musashi. lol
    Everything i have been studying this past month circles back to Musashi in some form.
    Kinda amazing really. Thanks for putting your heart into this, its such a good video dude. 10/10

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      I really appreciate it man, thank you

  • @SoulStarSketchin
    @SoulStarSketchin Рік тому +9

    I had no idea he had a hiatus that long. Omg that is awful and devastating. Really loved his work. I get it though burn out happens to all of us.

  • @kugelblitzkrieg
    @kugelblitzkrieg 6 місяців тому +5

    I refuse to start Vagabond until it’s completed or cancelled because I know I’ll enjoy it and don’t want to be itching for more. Already made that mistake with Berserk and don’t want to do it again. That being said, I can wait as long as Inoue needs for that to happen.

  • @realexiscastro7213
    @realexiscastro7213 Рік тому +14

    Great video! I wonder if a part of Inoues hesitance on Vagabond is also the deeply affecting emotional similarity he must feel as a mangaka to Musashi.
    You said it yourself that he’s someone who clearly loves and appreciates being a part of a team, but his process is such a laborious and lonely practice that I would imagine it’s hard not to work on Musashi and see himself. A young, talented kid who honed his craft to the point of near universal acknowledgement only to be lonely, crash and recontextualize his life ( farm saga ) and take all of his collective experiences to forge a new path forward that’s purpose driven.
    Compared to Real which is all about overcoming adversity through the connections and support people give each other. Besides it being his magnum opus and perfection I imagine a contributing factor is how much Vagabond can really be meta to the creative process and subsequently Inoue himself

  • @murph_archer1129
    @murph_archer1129 Рік тому +4

    Immaculate video as always. I really need to get back to Vagabond

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching!! Who knows, maybe by the time you catch up Inoue will be working on it again 😉

  • @mrcomet124
    @mrcomet124 6 місяців тому +2

    Bro I just wanna say the way you make your videos and the topics you cover are amazing your Berserk Video was amazing and I can already tell like 2-3 minutes into this that this is gonna be a masterclass of a video your editing style and way you talk is Amazing and my gosh is your voice soothing keep it up your a master at making Vids and the art of it is amazing of how you depict these Manga artists story’s

  • @squeebbb
    @squeebbb Рік тому +3

    Vagabond is seriously one of the most, if not THE most beautifully drawn manga series in existence.

  • @DiegoB0525
    @DiegoB0525 Рік тому +3

    I don't blame him for stepping back on Vagabond.
    And it's like you've said, that an artist/writer pours their soul into their work. I go through that all the time with my art, and get disheartened sometimes when it's not received like in my mind/thoughts. But this feeling just makes me try harder at least, so that's not so bad.

  • @thedreamsoldiers
    @thedreamsoldiers Рік тому +5

    I just finished reading Vagabond & it was even better than i thought. Berserk & HxH are my other 2 favorite manga. Its frustrating always wondering if these 3 series will ever finish

  • @thebodyflicker4525
    @thebodyflicker4525 11 місяців тому +1

    You just helped me love Inoue even more. Thanks man. Wonderful video.

  • @sadiq_op7800
    @sadiq_op7800 Рік тому +3

    This is your greatest video, and that says a lot. Just wow, brother

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +1

      Thank you as always brother, sincerely appreciate it!

  • @Albertozaurussss
    @Albertozaurussss 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you man, some of us really needed this. Once again, thank you!

  • @ryuno2097
    @ryuno2097 Рік тому +3

    Wow. I didn't realize Takehiko still write / draw , i thought he stopped after Vagabond. Plus i didn't know Vagabond was still on going as i thought it only went for a few books.

  • @RocSandy
    @RocSandy 9 місяців тому +2

    I watched this video a couple of months ago, and It was recommended again. And yet again, I couldn't resist watching the entire thing ❤

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  9 місяців тому +1

      I think I remember you commenting !! Thanks for watching again 🔥🔥

    • @RocSandy
      @RocSandy 9 місяців тому

      @@dylcor My pleasure! Thanks for the amazing content!

  • @theradicalalex
    @theradicalalex Рік тому +7

    Brother, you have a GREAT video essay voice. Your videos and quality are so good for how small your channel is. Love to see your channel start with top quality, stay consistent and I could see your channel getting a lot bigger. ❤
    Incredible video though, never read Slam Dunk or Vagabond, but now I want to read them both.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +1

      Thank you man I greatly appreciate the kind words! I’m more motivated than ever to make content

  • @LonelyHoops
    @LonelyHoops Рік тому +1

    You should make more video essays like this, the vibe and the writing on this video is immaculate

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      Thank you! Already working on the next one

  • @09nob
    @09nob Рік тому +4

    Not mention the number of life-absorbing hours that are neccesary to produce such work.

  • @polyphoniphilia
    @polyphoniphilia Рік тому +1

    Super pleased the algorithm has picked this video up, your content is fantastic!

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      Thank you! Greatly appreciate it

  • @ghun131
    @ghun131 Рік тому +10

    I love his manga. They resonate with me so much that I think I can see those characters. I would imagine the author working on multiple drafts and throwing away many days work because they failed to meet his own standard. Wish him the best of health and the best of heart

  • @CutzMcOnions
    @CutzMcOnions Рік тому +2

    Slamdunk and Vagabond have such a huge impact that it improved how movements and strikes/attacks are depicted. you can even see its influence in korean manhwas albeit more simplified.

  • @-A.R.A.D-
    @-A.R.A.D- Рік тому +3

    Two words that affects all artists... >>>>>>> Burn out.
    You gotta understand, artists are deeply tuned to their emotions on creating things.
    It's hard to explain like how hard it is to have depression. BTW, depression is so prevalent on artists.
    Either if an artist is successful or struggling, the sense of dreaded depression occurs.

  • @GreenFuMan
    @GreenFuMan 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm crushed he stopped because his journey could be seen in manga. I could feel his philosophical outlook and views in his writing. Vagabond is sadly in my top, I had no idea he may never finish it. Thank you for this video friend

  • @lukas4705
    @lukas4705 Рік тому +7

    One thing I have never been able to understand is how people can get so mad while feeling entitled to an artist's work. I have times felt sad that a manga has been cancelled before, but I have never once in my life felt mad about it. I will, however, be mad at those shameless people that have the audacity to harass an artist about their work, because they were mad that it has been left unfinished.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +3

      Yeah man I feel the same way. Idk how people can be entitled for something they clearly don’t deserve, but lo and behold… thank you for the comment

    • @lukas4705
      @lukas4705 Рік тому

      @@dylcor I love expressing my opionion when it urges me. Great video!

    • @Birdsflight44
      @Birdsflight44 29 днів тому

      I've had conversations with these types of people, and they are honestly under the impression that art and storytelling is just something you can crank out like any old mundane craft- that you should be able to make groundbreaking narratives with the same efficiency and industry as, say, a master carpenter can a series of exceptional cabinets.
      They refuse to listen to the idea that more abstract concepts can't just be forced into being, at least while one expects a consistent level of extreme excellence.
      AKA, they seem to exist on a level that's basically an artistic equivalent of saying "have you tried not being sad?" to a severe, chronically depressed person.

  • @AZ-zz4kn
    @AZ-zz4kn Рік тому +2

    Great Documentary. Although only work of Inoue I read/watch was Slam Dunk, to this day it’s still my favorite sports manga of all time. Not only was it extremely influential in Japan, it was in other Asian countries as well. Even in China as a kid, I remember adults knowing Slam Dunk. It Inspired me to play basketball during my childhood for a few years

  • @jinmakarov8187
    @jinmakarov8187 Рік тому +5

    yeah , , i read vagabond and , , damn , , it raises my standard so high to the point is hard to enjoy other manga anymore

  • @luuji5253
    @luuji5253 8 місяців тому

    each chapters of vegabond feels like staring an art gallery. Man every page has a very stunning art works.

  • @Kngly1
    @Kngly1 Рік тому +3

    Being in the Mindset of Musashi must be something difficult to do. In some sort of way I feel like he is learning from Musashi too.

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +1

      Very very true 🙏🙏

  • @quanhoang2304
    @quanhoang2304 Рік тому +2

    I totally got surprised by the quality of your videos, the meticulous contents and your voice is so so good. You are well spoken, and i wonder why your channel still doesn’t catch on, but keep up the good work man !!

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      Thank you so much 😊

  • @jjstarrprod
    @jjstarrprod Рік тому +8

    That was quite the documentary, man ! Awesome !
    Question, did you shoot yourself all the footage of Japan, or did you get them on stock footage site ? They're gorgeous !
    As someone who's been drawing ever since I was a kid, and been working in animation for 15 years, I went through a period of extreme burnout due to the gruesome working conditions of the industry, to the point that I can't even touch a pencil anymore. Luckily, I still have photography as my second passion to still create visual arts, but it's been at least 7 years since I last drew something personal, let alone work in animation anymore.
    Some things, you need to be in the flow to keep it going. Once the flow has been broken, it's extremely hard to get it moving again, like trying to move a massive boulder.
    So I can totally understand why he stopped drawing Vagabond. When the masterpiece is growing ever bigger than the artist himself, to the point it becomes a traumatizing chore to keep at it, it's better to just leave it as is, unfinished, rather than keep at it while being mentally dragged and risking to ruin the legacy of the entire work by delivering a crappy ending. Look at Game of Thrones, the TV series : For 5 years in a row, it was the most talked about show on the entire planet, and now that the finale came and went like a wet fart, how many people are still talking about it ? Most people have completely forgotten about it, or want to forget all about it, as it never existed, as the final 3 seasons were an insult to the rest of the series that has the world so enthralled and gave 10 years of their lives to it ! Only to finish in the most unsatisfying way possible, which millions around the world took as treason and utter disrespect to the audience's intelligence and time from the showrunners.
    A fate like this for Vagabond would be truly devastating, both for the world, and for Inoue Sensei.
    I actually really enjoyed that he's found a new creative life by directing the animation movie The First Slam Dunk, that came out this year, which is a masterpiece of the medium ! You can tell was directed by a true artist, dedicated and passionated.
    Who knows, maybe animated film in the vein of The First Slam Dunk is the way he's gonna end Vagabond ?

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much for watching and for the extensive comment. Appreciate your thoughts brother

  • @sunitha6840
    @sunitha6840 Місяць тому +1

    In 2022 he was interviewed and he stated that he will continue vagabond and complete it and now he is currently working on it 🎉

  • @Brandease
    @Brandease Рік тому +3

    This was a very well edited and narrated video! I hope to see your channel grow 😊

  • @ItachiGun-t9q
    @ItachiGun-t9q 6 днів тому

    You captured my attention completely. I wanted to switch, but your presentation had me hooked. Kudos to you, sir!

  • @naufalof
    @naufalof Рік тому +4

    Inoue is one of the GOAT manga artist 🥲

    • @dylcor
      @dylcor  Рік тому

      Absolutely 🙏🙏

  • @Thishandleshouldbeavailable
    @Thishandleshouldbeavailable Рік тому +1

    Man..... i read VAGABOND around 2010, and i remember i was jaw dropping for daysssss just for the beautiful + so much detail in the drawing and how he depicting human ambition and learning from everysingle fking thing for life and pursue the answer of it all as a true samurai warrior (and much more) !!! And i re-read it every year since thn😅. Now im 34, watching ur video in the month where i re-read it.
    Thankyou for giving so much love and speak out about VAGABOND hiatus with such details.
    Have a wonderful life, and hope you find happiness. Once again, thankyou.
    Respect all the way from Jakarta (Indonesia)

  • @SupposeKennethed
    @SupposeKennethed 8 місяців тому +5

    Real is my favorite manga of all time.

  • @SilasV_V
    @SilasV_V Рік тому +1

    I’ve had the same exact feeling. I was scared to release one of my work series because I knew I still had room to grow and improve. I decided to just proceed and I rationalized that the series in question would not be my final or greatest piece of work. It wasn’t perfect, but now, it’s the best I could do. The imperfections that I could really see with my eyes right now had be vanquished and so, I released it. It was accepted into a gallery showing and had great feedback. It wasn’t much of a think piece, as I knew most wouldn’t understand what I was trying to say with it. I didn’t fully know what I was trying to say with it beyond translating a story I related to into my own reality.

  • @jadedemperor2820
    @jadedemperor2820 Рік тому +5

    To be fair I get why berserk went on hiatus I respect him for choosing his wife and his irl life over the manga

    • @imsentinelprime9279
      @imsentinelprime9279 5 місяців тому

      Still sucks for the fans though. Imagine being a engineer and then quitting on a project you were assigned because you don't feel like it. At that point why even start it if you aren't going to try to see it through.

    • @noahbruce6142
      @noahbruce6142 5 місяців тому +2

      @@imsentinelprime9279 I'm not sure if you are referring to Muira or Mori, but Muira worked on the manga for 27 years. He was absolutely dedicated and fixated on it. When his friends would drag him out to eat, he had anxiety attacks because he thought he should get back to work ASAP. As for Mori, it was dropped in his lap and he never intended for his friend to die. Plus, he is doing it all by memory of conversations he had with Muira before he died.
      Also, neither was "assigned" to make the manga. It was a choice. It's never a given that a manga will be finished for various reasons. To suggest that an artist is required to complete their work for YOUR enjoyment is peak entitlement.

  • @Israfel36
    @Israfel36 Місяць тому +1

    Really solid video, man.