I remember the issue Fatou got SOOOO MUCH HATE COMMENTS and the RACISM was crazy! I literally don’t know how she put up with the nonsense she was dealing with . She did not deserve all that hate !
Fr, I felt really bad for her. She never really deserved all that she went through. It is so annoying how people resorts to racist slurs when a black person is accused of something
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules.
@@sumayyahadetunmbi4347 I agree ! The people who were rude , high key were waiting for a day / moment for them to say some evil shit the way the did Fatou
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules. I've noticed this attitude in western fans who are always cussing "Korean people or netizens" and wanting to change K-pop culture as a whole, for instance, dating rules. The rules are there for a reason, and made k-pop the success it is today, with young people oriented towards excellence and professionalism and unwavering passion to their craft. If they were hooking up all night every night like these "fans" want them to be, K-pop would be just another mediocre industry with no exceptional outcomes, like most of these "fans" lives are...very mediocre and no depth besides who they sleep with or break up with, no personality outside of revealing clothes and clout chasing on social media. Barf 🤮
@@munchiebearExactly and she saw how hard they go for her she use it to her adventage but they're no match for Luminas that love all the girls equally.
@imnadollikr 😒 which is laughable considering she wouldn’t put effort into training herself but still had the guts to act like a snobby diva. Talk about delusional 😬.
It’s really frustrating when people keep using 'mental health issues' as an excuse for the problems they’ve caused. It feels like every time they do something wrong, they blame it on their mental health, and it’s hard to hold them accountable because people are afraid to criticize them due to those issues. I understand mental health is important, but it doesn’t mean people should avoid taking responsibility for their actions, especially when they’re contributing to their own problems.
@@Foxy_rin Yes, she admitted her mistake, and she said she made a mistake and apologized to fatou , but the problem was that other member of the group, who was the leader, who showed the stories to fatou, making the two fall out again!!
Yeah as someone with anxiety, this is disrespectful, I hate people using that card or the "disabled/Autistic card" as an excuse, i myself who is anxiety filled i would never never do/say crap like that!😡💢
I hate how fatou also had to apologize when she did nothing wrong. Sadly she had to though because people don't think blk people are innocent unless there is proof but will believe anyone who is not blk accusing a blk person without proof. Also its the fact that even though the proof is already out and literally everyone at the company said Leia was the problem people will still try to defend her. The former members, the ceo, the ceo’s son, and she was even exposing herself.
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules. I've noticed this attitude in western fans who are always cussing "Korean people or netizens" and wanting to change K-pop culture as a whole, for instance, dating rules. The rules are there for a reason, and made k-pop the success it is today, with young people oriented towards excellence and professionalism and unwavering passion to their craft. If they were hooking up all night every night like these "fans" want them to be, K-pop would be just another mediocre industry with no exceptional outcomes, like most of these "fans" lives are...very mediocre and no depth besides who they sleep with or break up with, no personality outside of revealing clothes and clout chasing on social media. Barf 🤮
DR haven’t officially confirmed her status yet, but things have gotten better for the group since she left and hopefully she’ll learn from this experience and look back on what she achieved(just the positives).
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules.
I really didn’t like that the documentary was too sympathetic towards Leia’s mental health and not Fatou’s as well. Fatou mentioned in the documentary that she was aware that racist comments were made but she made it her business not to read them, however after the korean members left she was very depressed because she was close to them and was feeling lost and contemplated s*icide, but didn’t go through with it because of her Mom 😢
Léia also suffered xenophobic prejudices, she never liked racist POST and she and she distanced themselves, they were friends until one of the Koreans manipulated everything
@Linecamilo812 Sweetie...c'mon now. The sign of true emotional intelligence is being able to take accountability for your actions. Another sign is being able it see (and accept) the truth when it is presented to you. This young lady had issues, and she used (weaponized) her 'perceived' mental instability to get away some pretty awful things. Fatou admitted (and recognizes) that she is not perfect. No one is, but when you treat people like Leia did, when you disrespect people and their time ( showing up late for rehearsals) and then using mental health problems as a reason, you are NOT a nice person at all. Actually, it makes her awful person. For her and others to question if someone is 'worthy' to be in K-POP, then turn around and disgrace the legacy of K-POP idols that HAVE passed away from ACTUAL mental issues by 'weaponizing' it to excuse bad behavior...well, it's sickening. A lot of self reflection is needed by Leia and all who support her. Her actions were and are a disgrace to the genre of K-POP. Millions dream of being in a group. They respect it. It's a lifestyle and not a playground for bullies. Her actions are inexcusable. This is NOT what K-POP represents.
i still remember Fatou message on twitter and I immediately sided with her it was so sincerely written showed that she cared about the group since leia main move was to destroy them
OK, I’m not trying to sound rude… I’m just genuinely wondering if you can elaborate how you said Leia’s main move was to destroy the group. ALSO- I just started the video so if she talks about it, I haven’t seen it yet lol. Thank you.
@@KandiceCruz well back then we didn't know that she wanted to destroy the group but in the documentary she tried to sabotage the members not only fatou but she will take words out of thier moths and twist and go tell on them, she also used her mental illness to go party and have boyfriends which is not allowed if you're an idol, she don't practice with the members and always comes late, her singing technique wasn't there and she did not even try to be better at her job, the ceo after all of that still cared about her mental health but she was too much to bare causing the 2 korean members to leave, yeah she's a narcissistic person and an attention seeker. She knew that the only way of getting out of the company without giving back the debt spent on her is by forcing problems tp get out and she did get out at the end. At some point I had sympathy for her not going to lie but come on you're a grown up, she also tend to discuss everything with her parents especially her mom... Like imagine your boss telling you something important and you go telling everyone in the company how does that make you look?
@@KandiceCruz Perhaps the correct wording is not that she tried to destroy the group. I don't think she was directly trying to destroy the group, but indirectly the damage that she caused would lead to nothing much other than destroying the group. She exposed internal problems and misunderstandings between members. She made accusations against Fatou and the other members which would make them look bad. That ruins the group's presentation. They get portrayed as messy, unprofessional, and problematic and people wouldn't want to support a group like that. A lot of people like idols because of their clean image. Idols must behave in a way that reflects well on the company and group. People already have doubts that foreigners are fit to be idols. The scandal would only reinforce people's perception that foreigners are inadequate al fulfilling a KPop idol role. Additionally, the fans became very divided. The attacked each other for defending whichever members they supported, either Leia or Fatou and the 2 others. If the CEO weren't so obsessed with forming a global KPop group he could've decided that Blackswan were more trouble that they're worth and he could've disbanded them. Even still, the incident culminated in the 2 Korean members leaving the group.
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules. I've noticed this attitude in western fans who are always cussing "Korean people or netizens" and wanting to change K-pop culture as a whole, for instance, dating rules. The rules are there for a reason, and made k-pop the success it is today, with young people oriented towards excellence and professionalism and unwavering passion to their craft. If they were hooking up all night every night like these "fans" want them to be, K-pop would be just another mediocre industry with no exceptional outcomes, like most of these "fans" lives are...very mediocre and no depth besides who they sleep with or break up with, no personality outside of revealing clothes and clout chasing on social media. Barf 🤮
What really upsets me, is Leia said ALL the members were "leaving her out" and "bullying" her, but for some reason her mom and fans only came for Fatou........ Especially considered the fans were make racist comments, I feel like her mom singled her out simply because of racisim..... Also she claimed she was upset she wasn't able to see her mom, but homegirl still lives in korea as we speak.... Nah sis was mad the attention wasn't on her.
when the documentary came out all of the fans of leia left the building because they couldn't defend her when they got evidence so where are you at now? where is the so called i'm going to ride or die fans?
@@HayleeCoded exactly I read somewhere there was this particular person commenting " WTH You guys still hating Leia? Seems like it's just us Brazilian's who know the truth . Poor Leia had to leave because of that"evil Fatou " like wth
@@Breezely_breeze and they are also trying to say both of them were in the wrong but before the doc came out it was just fatou’s fault and Leia was a victim, how does that make any sense?? They are trying to find any way to make it seem like Fatou was wrong.
Leia and her fans truly to this day believe that she was the most popular in the group and that now that’s she’s gone the group is suffering from her absence when it’s literally the exact opposite. She was immature, egotistical, and didn’t actually want to put in any work to gain fame, she just wanted it handed to her and to be babied. And all this bs because she said she missed her mom, and DR sent her back to Brazil to be with her mom the first thing she does is go to the damn club, and she still came back to Korea for what? You said you wanted to be with your mom and tried to ruin people’s lives ans careers, go be with your mom in Brazil then, why is she still even in Korea?
@@chesiresays no cause the way they treated katseye especially Manon, saying they were gonna flop 🤦🏽♀️. And now katseye and blackswan are like sisters. Karma is crazy
They're so delusional Fatou was the most popular and I did remember them saying that. Now look at Blackswan now doing much better than and without her and now Syria and Fatou are the most popular members😂😂
@@chesiresaysWhat do you mean by Samara? She was a victim of fake news and everyone who is well informed already knows this because it has already been resolved, you don't even know how to translate the subtitles of the videos properly or looking for real evidence and want to accuse people... don't bring her into this.
You can tell Fatou wasn’t lying because she’s speaking about Leia’s behavior towards her and those around her, whereas Leia played victim and I don’t like the smirk she made during the apology video. She’s weird.
FR like it’s easy for people of colors to be targeted of something they didn’t do and having to bear with no one wanting to believe you 😢 I’ve been there before and it’s a horrific experience, so Léia should’ve known this type of situation was detrimental to Fatou mentally. #fatouneverlied #leiaisaliar
To any racists who agree with those hate comments. K-pop is based from Black culture/music… so ya. If y’all wanna say Fatou doesn’t belong cuz she’s not Asian then all K-pop groups need to stop rapping, R&B, and any hip hop Afro dancing.
@@Likelyfairy no frllll Jay Park is one of many. Like come on they wanna hate us sooo bad but if it wasn’t for Black people music wouldn’t be where it is today. Country, Rock, R&B, hip hop sooo much more.
I remember this whole controversy + Leia trying to get into those "gay K-pop moments" videos by grabbing two of the Korean members ' chests or kissing Fatou which they obviously didn't consent to. The whole scandal was so nerve-racking and I'm just relieved to see the truth being told!
This is the reason why Luminas stopped supporting her and it’s because she was too immature/selfish and wanted everything for herself only. She was the one who caused problems for the girls and yet she kept acting like she was the “victim” when she isn’t. She really craved attention she didn’t need straight away that she didn’t realise this type of behaviour doesn’t work well in a group society and that’s why the group isolated from her. Her fans are making things worse by defending her actions and refusing to hold her accountable while rather pinning the blame on Swannies for the things they didn’t do, which shows she wasn’t mentally ready nor mature enough to handle the pressure of fame. Sorry but this was her chance and she blew it, very disappointed 😢 #fatouneverlied #leiaisaliar #blackswanxluminas
Fatou is not the victim either, Leia did not attack Fatou's family and never liked racist posts. When Fatou needed it you helped, but when it was Leia you ran away blindly.
@@Linecamilo812 yeah and what about it? I can understand why others would think she overreacted and that’s fine, but as someone of color knows what it’s like to deal with accusations of vile things anyone of color can be vilified for, I can also say Larissa should’ve known better than to accuse someone of color of something they didn’t do and let it spiral out for worse.
Now this is what "pick me" really stands for what she had been doing all those years like Leia literally degraded Fatou and made her go the hell out of those HATE COMMENTS and RACISM 😢. I am glad that she left. And the audacity of her to still blame Sriya and Gabi for the departure of the Korean members when she was the main cause of that🤦. Now with the new line up I will keep supporting Blackswan ❤
as a Brazilian Lumina, I've always sided with Fatou, simply because the story of the Brazilian fan page that got a message from a parent sounded too sus. As things went on, my friend and I talked about how Leia was probably full of herself because she was young and living the dream of a lot of Brazilian girls: being a k-pop idol. Turns out we were right the whole time, I'm glad the truth came to light, and I really hope that Fatou is recovering from all of this, I also hope that this incident doesn't stop them from coming to Brazil, there are still fans that would receive them with open arms ♡
As someone who has mental health issues, they are NO EXCUSE for treating others badly. Have I done that in the past? Yes. And i took responsibility for my actions and apologized. Mental health issues didn't possess me and force me to say mean things, I did that. I regret it, and I made it clear I would never do that again. Accountability cannot be forgotten when treating mental health.
African Americans are the progenitors of JAZZ, SOUL, BLUES and POP, and much of the world-renown billion-selling pop songs everyone knows! Much of what Kpop has was derived from other cultures.
Someone said to me when I was younger "you spout lies the truth is always behind and waiting to come out just like the darkness always has light behind it" this is a great example of that quote.
Fatou, NVee, Gabi & Sriya are match made in Heaven🌌✨ 3 super-talented but chaotic kids😂 made everything Right for their all-rounder super-woman Strong💪 Mama ❤🖤 The positive thinking & energy that NVee, Gabi & Sriya had is the perfect chef-kiss ingredient in Mama Fatou's life🖤🦢
Cultural Appropriation Example #1: enjoying a genre of music that originated from/is heavily influenced by black artists, then wondering if/why black people should participate. KEEP IN MIND: black producers are sending demos to groups; black choreographers are choreographing routines…make it make sense to me.
I think you mean black choreographers. Theres a select number of songwriters that are asked by kpop companies for demos and majority are white , or diverse songwriter group. But i agree, koreas adaptation to hiphop is appropriation because there are crazed stans that will go on to hate a black artist, even though they were clearly sampled, or believe only Koreans should be in the industry. Its blatant racism ( and korean nationalism ideology as well)
"Why are black people in KPOP whats the point" KPOP is literally based off black music and some of black culture , JYP and YG (I think) said it themselves. so what was THEIR POINT! Thats why KPOP companies need to give credit when credit is due, they dont give credit to black people at all. Its weird.
Leia literally reminded of my ex childhood friend who's just like her! No difference lmao.. always play the victim card, denying nd twisting her words, talking shit behind my back, getting jealous and wanting to be the main character so bad nd many things! I'm happy that Leia was kicked out of the group nd i kicked out that mf from my life lol
Even black Brazilians suffer from racism and colorism, their even white supemcits politician who threaten genocide against black Brazilians and natives
reading fatou's story has actually touched me in a way. i experienced many fake, narcissitic friends in the past. and her saying she suddenly snapped at her and said bad things to leia is relatable, too. im glad leia left the group.
The worst of all is that even with everything out, Leia's fans which are mainly brazillian will still defend her JUST BECAUSE she's brazillian. Not because she's right, not because she's wrong but because they are from the same nationality. One thing was going against Fatou and everything she said at the time but they also didn't believe the Korean members. Funny enough, while they praise Leia, they seem to have an issue with their own artists in their country when it garners the attention of koreans and Korean media. Some still speak ill of Anitta even though she battled hard to be where she is and she does the same concepts of foreign artists brazillians are okay with. Also, going back at when everything happened, Fatou saying she was hyperfixating on her is because she's black. There's no other answer. She couldn't go after the Korean members because they were in Korea but also because a lot of non-black girls have this thought they are better than black girls and get a reality check when that is not the case. There has been time and time again of cases of this happening exposed on the internet. Vá com Deus, Larissa!
Anyone can become a kpop idol no MATTER what RACE as long as they can dance and have good singing vocals. The fact that the people included race into this, is ridiculous. leia used her mental health as an excuse to blame it on her is stupid. Her FANS and herself need to get help and stop victimizing their selfs. if a kpop idol is gonna be toxic, they SHOULDN'T even deserve to get any attention
This is why not every idol is "an angel", "a goddess", e.t.c. You shouldn't even be calling them that in the first place cause we don't know who they really are.
Stans getting butt hurt about black people being in kpop while completely ignoring all of the hip hop and Afrobeat influences will always make me laugh. Modern kpop wouldn’t be what it is today without black influences
Leai was simply a kpop stan who made her dream come true and got too egotistical without the talent to match. Yougheun had the most experience and vocal talent in the group and didn’t act half as entitled as she did. She was simply playing the part of an idol, something the rest of the girls didn’t have the luxury of doing. And once she was done playing the part she wanted to ruin it for everyone else. I truly hope she gets help and finds peace somewhere else, the spotlight is the last place people like her need to be in.
Not only was she skipping practices and kept getting away with slacking off while also demanding things being handed to her only, but she is also the reason why the previous lineup wasn’t successful as now and she is also the reason why Swannies might not be able to visit Brazil 🇧🇷 cause then her rabid fans would terrorise them and blame them for herself not being at the level they are at now. That’s why some Luminas beef with them because the Larilights are too delusional to accept reality.
Excuse me? Using the mental health card? OOOH I HATE PEOPLE USING THAT BULLSHIT!!! AS AN ANXIETY FILLED/AUTISTIC FILLED PERSON, I WOULD NEVER I SWEAR ON MY LIFE I WOULD NEVER DO STUFF LIKE THAT!!! I HATE PEOPLE WHO USES THOSE CARDS AS EXCUSES, I'M DONE, THEY MAKE PEOPLE LIKE US LOOK LIKE MONSTERS, WE'RE NOT MONSTERS, WE'RE HUMAN!!!
Understand that mental health is a spectrum. You might not do anything like that but your on one end of the spectrum. Unfortunately there are darker sides to these mental issues, a lot of times people forget that.
Unrelated note: Fatou looks so pretty here. I dont follow blackswan too closely so i only ever see her with bright hair, makeup, and contacts. Also she looked so cute with her two puff balls💕💕
and the company should've never kept leia if they knew she had some mental illness like this. there is a reason why idols go on hiatus once they develop one mental illness. to even hire one knowing they had it before becoming an idol is js disappointing
I believe Fatou there's no way a black girl in a kpop group is going to be mean to her members because she knows she is expendable and will be replaced anytime if she messes up
As a Brazilian, I am very disappointed. Because this gives people a bad image of us. I know that not everyone is like that, but just thinking that some people might think that all of us are like that, it gives me the creeps.
As someone partly of Portuguese 🇵🇹 descent with huge admiration for the Brazilian 🇧🇷 artists, I feel sorry for you for feeling embarrassed by what Larissa has done and I apologise in behalf of the Luminas that are retaliating by attacking her back and negatively generalising your people because I’m sure Brazil 🇧🇷 is very friendly(even if there are bad “apples).
Que imagem ruim? Que o brasil é um pais extremamente racista sendo que é? Eu sempre soube que o problema da Leia era racismo estrutural. Sempre! A direferença é que o Brasileiro esta acostumando com a baixa estima do negro aqui. E a sociedade brasileira naturaliza o racismo, quando cjegam numa estrutura onde racismos não é tolerado acontece o que aconteceu com a Leia.
@@loomis-t2q eu moro aqui nos EUA, e a taxa de racismo aqui é muito maior do que no Brasil. Não sei se você está falando de vários países em geral, ou comprando aqui com o Brasil, mas nessa questão, não tem muita diferença não.
It never sat well with me Leia saying “Fatou never liked me” because in one interview in Portuguese (I’m Brazilian so I can understand it) at the beginning of the group, she said she was always the closest with Fatou, because Fatou was the only other foreigner. It didn’t make any sense for me saying someone was the closest to you and then after saying this person never liked you and you always knew it
Well, according to the Apple TV docu series, DR thought of removing Léia from the group for breaching her contract, but realised that would affect the Swannies’ building audience to Brazil 🇧🇷 (since she was the “most popular”who could bring in Brazilian fans, (but that already happened when she left and the Brazilian Luminas were interested in the girls because of Gabi and Fatou, not her)) and that her Larilight fanbase would boycott the group if she was out, so they held her for as long as they could until she realised she wasn’t at the best state after the second show in Belgium 🇧🇪.
Leia, needs to shut her mouth. She messed this up for herself. Fatou wants to have a good successful group. She’s doing what she needs to do to make sure that her group is successful. Leia messed that up for herself
This incident is what made me become a fan of Fatou, finally a fan of the group after Leia was kicked. This is a great example of "office shows manners", she got some attention and became a nuisance to everyone around her. I hope the memebers who left because of her find some peace as well. And i wish nothing but the best to BlackSwan
I feel so bad for Fatou! She didn't deserve all that.. I am Brazilian, but I never liked her, well.. I thought is was cool how they debuted a Brazilian in a kpop group. But Fatou was always my Bais in the group and still is, because they are ROCKING THE NEW ALBUM! And you guys know what's get me more pissed off, is that Leia left the group saying that she wasn't well, that she was being missed threated by the girls and that she wanted to go back to Brazil.. But what is she still doing in korea?! I found her social medias and she still in Korea, so I don't get it!! What was that all for?! Was it worth it?!
I remember when this all started happening, I was so embarassed and angry that the first brazilian idol we had was being such an awful person. Like, this could jeopardize not only a group with such amazing potential to be revolutionary to K-Pop, but also the chances of more brazilian people getting into the industry. Needless to day, I was relieved when Gabi joined and I am quite happy with how things are going now with Blackswan and I wish them all the success.
People are so racist ,they think black people don't have the right to be a kpop Idol not only that but also in other things what do they who are they to say that they are just jobless people on the internet kpop is were you express your talent yes also visuals but talent is more important and she has the talent it's nothing like you have to be asian for it
L them for bullying fatou💀 they racist af. L THEM. L them for supporting leia. Is what i wanted to say. but if they didnt more research into this. Its honestly sad and sickening. SHE DID NOT DESERVE GO APOLOGIZE. smh. the things people can do. Glad the truth was revealed!
I have someone like Leia in my school, which I wouldn't say I like at all. It's really frustrating when people do these things. She recently tried to separate my friends from me. Fatou never deserved that hate. Hopefully, Leia has learned here lesson.
Well, one thing for sure ㅡ she is INTIMIDATED by Fatou, which makes her scared to be "shadowed" by Fatou's popularity and her, not being the "center of attention". Periodt.
"She doesn't have Asian Blood" wtf is she gonna make music using her blood. What a stupid comment what does skin color have anything to do with music. The ignorance people have baffles me.
This just goes to show you how important it is to not give into what the media speculates over whats the reality and truth behind closed doors! We should never side with anyone because we dont know them nor have we ever the possibility to really know the truth! In this case it really sucks that the truth came out after the damage was done! I feel so sorry for Fatou but she looks like she is built tough although im sure it surely was a difficult time for her but the truth always comes out and even though its too late im glad and happy for her that now the idiots that tried to bring her down are sorry for what they did and i really hope they are because if they're not well they will learn the hard way im sure one day! No bad deed goes unpunished!
In Fatou's defense. It's a kpop group with no Koreans. She has just as much of a right to be there as the others. The whole point is that the group isn't Korean but they're making kpop. Although, to be honest kpop copies from Black American culture a lot and (it also has 2000s pop vibes as well in my opinion), so I don't see why black people shouldn't be in kpop if they want to if kpop copies black culture. Kpop (in my opinion) is 2000s pop music (with hip hop and RnB elements), but it's sung in korean. You can obviously see that bands like NSYNC, The Backstreet Boys, Mindless Behaviour, Destiny's Child, Pussycat Dolls and TLC (I don't know who else I should be adding to this list) were a huge inspiration for this genre. These are American boybands/girlbands that are mass produced. American girlbands/boybands have had black people in them, so what's the problem?
Such issues arise when there's insercurities and a lack of abilities with a individual because you want sympathy and brownie points for your feelings, not hard work. That's the difference between Fatou and Leia.
Yeah ! I remember all those moments too... I never liked Leia from the very start for I always was able to read through her facade... she maybe going through mental issues but she was also the reason for all other's mental health issues as well... a very selfish and narcistic natured person and more over I always felt Fatou was more like a challenge for her that she did not like and wanted out by demeaning her in a very subtle way. Love the Black Swan group with their four members. I feel they are absolutely complete now.
It was actually because she was learning the lyrics and struggled to find a note 😂 guess her lack of hard work really showed just how privileged she was being
I obviously didn’t know she 100% was the issue prior to the documentary but i believed Fatou because she was the one who provided the most information. In the documentary she can be seen doing a lot of the things Fatou claimed in her post and i just felt bad for Fatou. Fatou said she considered throwing herself out of a 10th floor after the korean members left (and they left because of Leia’s scandal).
I knew it! I knew it! There is: (NO SUCH THING AS FRIENDS)! It is a competition! Much less in the music industry. Anyone that says K-Pop idols are (”friends”)… It is more a business partner than (a” friends”)-
The live stream to address this was so upsetting. Farouk owned up to her part and apologised to both Leia and the fans but when Leia read her “apology” she left out a huge chunk that, I think, was meant to be an apology for her behaviour and to Fatou but she compelelty missed that part. The look on the other girls faces said it all. I hate that Fatou had to go through all of this. She seems to be genuinely nice person and loves her members a lot. Leia was a horrible member to everyone, staff, fans and the girls themselves. I can’t believe that there are people still defending Leia.
As a Brazilian citizen I have never defended Leia, I find her childish, racist and problematic attitude ridiculous. Honestly, she's from a mixed/ multicultural country, her being a racist just shows how bad and rotten she is, or how little respect she learned from parents or family idk.
Well, they’re still delusional and would rather pin the blame on Swannies(even more so on Fatou just because they’re still convinced that she “hurt” her when in reality Léia’s actions hurt the girls), but they already know the b*ch is already being condemned online and isn’t the “most popular member” they claim her to be in terms of a international fandom (she’s more popular with the local Brazilian and Portuguese-speaking audience, but most of international Luminas never really payed much attention to her, simply because Fatou is more charming/memorable and she lacks individual character 😂). No wonder she got a taste of her own medicine/she’s facing the consequences of her actions and she can miss out on the opportunities the rest of Swannies have now 😁. #leiaisaliar #fatouneverlied #blackswanxluminas
I mean it’s not like all brazilians knew her or stanned her, she was and still is a nobody, some of her fans are probably embarrassed and sticking to their guns out of pride but i have seen other brazilian fans criticize her, as the comment from above said, she is from an extremely diverse country and her behavior doesn’t speak well about her.
@@SpudhutCXrepobviously the truth like there’s plenty of Brazilian stans who don’t know much about her and are more interested in Black Swan than her and that’s what upsets her Leisardlight fans(they expect every Brazilian stan to support her and boycott Swannies, but in reality, it’s the opposite) 😂
People really need to get over black people branching out to other genres. Like skin color doesn’t depict what someone likes. Who said that was a thing???? Stop being so dense and naive and grow up 🙄🙄🙄
Honestly, most brazilians weren't on Larissa's side. Just the loud ones. We are a country with more than 50% of the population being black, so we also dont appreciate racism. Leia was sure that we were going to support her just because she is Brazilian. We do that, but not for her.
I remember the issue Fatou got SOOOO MUCH HATE COMMENTS and the RACISM was crazy! I literally don’t know how she put up with the nonsense she was dealing with . She did not deserve all that hate !
Even without the drama, korean always racist. It's not a secret that South Korea is the most racist country in the world, even to their fellow asian.
Fr, I felt really bad for her. She never really deserved all that she went through. It is so annoying how people resorts to racist slurs when a black person is accused of something
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules.
Western fangirls also want to make k-pop idols similar to a promiscuous stripper girl it's sad
@@sumayyahadetunmbi4347 I agree ! The people who were rude , high key were waiting for a day / moment for them to say some evil shit the way the did Fatou
The way Fatou kept it classy with her announcement? Honestly respect for not just getting mad after all that she went through because of her.
It sounds like Leia has the “celebrity disease” where celebrities get a false sense of thinking they are superior and a bigger deal than they are.
Seems like Léia caught the “celebrity disease” by the time her fanbase was building up, but it’s not comparable to the Lumina fandom
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules. I've noticed this attitude in western fans who are always cussing "Korean people or netizens" and wanting to change K-pop culture as a whole, for instance, dating rules. The rules are there for a reason, and made k-pop the success it is today, with young people oriented towards excellence and professionalism and unwavering passion to their craft. If they were hooking up all night every night like these "fans" want them to be, K-pop would be just another mediocre industry with no exceptional outcomes, like most of these "fans" lives are...very mediocre and no depth besides who they sleep with or break up with, no personality outside of revealing clothes and clout chasing on social media. Barf 🤮
@@munchiebearExactly and she saw how hard they go for her she use it to her adventage but they're no match for Luminas that love all the girls equally.
@imnadollikr 😒 which is laughable considering she wouldn’t put effort into training herself but still had the guts to act like a snobby diva. Talk about delusional 😬.
Just racist
It’s really frustrating when people keep using 'mental health issues' as an excuse for the problems they’ve caused. It feels like every time they do something wrong, they blame it on their mental health, and it’s hard to hold them accountable because people are afraid to criticize them due to those issues. I understand mental health is important, but it doesn’t mean people should avoid taking responsibility for their actions, especially when they’re contributing to their own problems.
You're right, but I read it on live and I assumed she was wrong and that she was a great person. This whole discussion is because of her fans.
“Your mental health is not your fault but YOUR responsibility”
@@Foxy_rin Yes, she admitted her mistake, and she said she made a mistake and apologized to fatou , but the problem was that other member of the group, who was the leader, who showed the stories to fatou, making the two fall out again!!
Yeah as someone with anxiety, this is disrespectful, I hate people using that card or the "disabled/Autistic card" as an excuse, i myself who is anxiety filled i would never never do/say crap like that!😡💢
@@Pink_bobacat each one is different, now this fight is over so let's just forget about it and not throw hate at it.
I hate how fatou also had to apologize when she did nothing wrong. Sadly she had to though because people don't think blk people are innocent unless there is proof but will believe anyone who is not blk accusing a blk person without proof. Also its the fact that even though the proof is already out and literally everyone at the company said Leia was the problem people will still try to defend her. The former members, the ceo, the ceo’s son, and she was even exposing herself.
Sadly, this is what we black people has to allways face
Yes
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules. I've noticed this attitude in western fans who are always cussing "Korean people or netizens" and wanting to change K-pop culture as a whole, for instance, dating rules. The rules are there for a reason, and made k-pop the success it is today, with young people oriented towards excellence and professionalism and unwavering passion to their craft. If they were hooking up all night every night like these "fans" want them to be, K-pop would be just another mediocre industry with no exceptional outcomes, like most of these "fans" lives are...very mediocre and no depth besides who they sleep with or break up with, no personality outside of revealing clothes and clout chasing on social media. Barf 🤮
I remember being a blk girl and having to apologize to my bullies when tgey woukd cry
Well if leia is really like that then she really doesn't belong to any group. Its good that she left for good
DR haven’t officially confirmed her status yet, but things have gotten better for the group since she left and hopefully she’ll learn from this experience and look back on what she achieved(just the positives).
@munchiebear yes they have, she is not a member
@@munchiebearI’m glad the group is doing great without that energy sucking vampire
@@munchiebear I don’t think they will officially announce her departure but her contract is over and she defo was not offered a new contract
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules.
I really didn’t like that the documentary was too sympathetic towards Leia’s mental health and not Fatou’s as well. Fatou mentioned in the documentary that she was aware that racist comments were made but she made it her business not to read them, however after the korean members left she was very depressed because she was close to them and was feeling lost and contemplated s*icide, but didn’t go through with it because of her Mom 😢
Omg 😮😭
Poor Fatou, she didn't deserve this type of treatment
Léia also suffered xenophobic prejudices, she never liked racist POST and she and she distanced themselves, they were friends until one of the Koreans manipulated everything
@@Linecamilo812 that’s not what happened love
@Linecamilo812 Sweetie...c'mon now. The sign of true emotional intelligence is being able to take accountability for your actions. Another sign is being able it see (and accept) the truth when it is presented to you. This young lady had issues, and she used (weaponized) her 'perceived' mental instability to get away some pretty awful things. Fatou admitted (and recognizes) that she is not perfect. No one is, but when you treat people like Leia did, when you disrespect people and their time ( showing up late for rehearsals) and then using mental health problems as a reason, you are NOT a nice person at all.
Actually, it makes her awful person. For her and others to question if someone is 'worthy' to be in K-POP, then turn around and disgrace the legacy of K-POP idols that HAVE passed away from ACTUAL mental issues by 'weaponizing' it to excuse bad behavior...well, it's sickening.
A lot of self reflection is needed by Leia and all who support her. Her actions were and are a disgrace to the genre of K-POP. Millions dream of being in a group. They respect it. It's a lifestyle and not a playground for bullies. Her actions are inexcusable. This is NOT what K-POP represents.
This is literally serial narcissist behaviour 😧 so freaking scary 😖
When I heard about this, I couldn't see how people defended Leia. Even from live streams you could see a bit of this.... It's really exhausting
Racists will use racism to excuse anything.
i still remember Fatou message on twitter and I immediately sided with her it was so sincerely written showed that she cared about the group since leia main move was to destroy them
OK, I’m not trying to sound rude… I’m just genuinely wondering if you can elaborate how you said Leia’s main move was to destroy the group.
ALSO- I just started the video so if she talks about it, I haven’t seen it yet lol.
Thank you.
@@KandiceCruz well back then we didn't know that she wanted to destroy the group but in the documentary she tried to sabotage the members not only fatou but she will take words out of thier moths and twist and go tell on them, she also used her mental illness to go party and have boyfriends which is not allowed if you're an idol, she don't practice with the members and always comes late, her singing technique wasn't there and she did not even try to be better at her job, the ceo after all of that still cared about her mental health but she was too much to bare causing the 2 korean members to leave, yeah she's a narcissistic person and an attention seeker.
She knew that the only way of getting out of the company without giving back the debt spent on her is by forcing problems tp get out and she did get out at the end.
At some point I had sympathy for her not going to lie but come on you're a grown up, she also tend to discuss everything with her parents especially her mom... Like imagine your boss telling you something important and you go telling everyone in the company how does that make you look?
@@KandiceCruz Perhaps the correct wording is not that she tried to destroy the group. I don't think she was directly trying to destroy the group, but indirectly the damage that she caused would lead to nothing much other than destroying the group. She exposed internal problems and misunderstandings between members. She made accusations against Fatou and the other members which would make them look bad. That ruins the group's presentation. They get portrayed as messy, unprofessional, and problematic and people wouldn't want to support a group like that. A lot of people like idols because of their clean image. Idols must behave in a way that reflects well on the company and group. People already have doubts that foreigners are fit to be idols. The scandal would only reinforce people's perception that foreigners are inadequate al fulfilling a KPop idol role.
Additionally, the fans became very divided. The attacked each other for defending whichever members they supported, either Leia or Fatou and the 2 others. If the CEO weren't so obsessed with forming a global KPop group he could've decided that Blackswan were more trouble that they're worth and he could've disbanded them. Even still, the incident culminated in the 2 Korean members leaving the group.
Leia seems like a typical tiktok narc who thought she would become a kpop star and date some popular male idols to fuel her ego. What's funny is that most Kpop male idols wouldn't even consider seriously dating a foreigner, so once she got a hint of reality she wanted to leave. It is quite pathetic. I try not to sound racially hateful, but western women on average are more entitled, self absorbed, attention seeking, morally degraded, promiscuous and obsessed with men/dating, lazy and have poor work ethic compared to eastern women. They also cannot thrive in a group or community, as most western women are socialized to obsess over themselves and their sexual partner and ignore everyone else including their own parents. If you fact check, almost all western female groups have had clashes and didn't last, see Fifth Harmony for example. It's because their egos and self centred attitudes wont thrive in an asian group concept where everyone is more open and considerate about others and the rules. I've noticed this attitude in western fans who are always cussing "Korean people or netizens" and wanting to change K-pop culture as a whole, for instance, dating rules. The rules are there for a reason, and made k-pop the success it is today, with young people oriented towards excellence and professionalism and unwavering passion to their craft. If they were hooking up all night every night like these "fans" want them to be, K-pop would be just another mediocre industry with no exceptional outcomes, like most of these "fans" lives are...very mediocre and no depth besides who they sleep with or break up with, no personality outside of revealing clothes and clout chasing on social media. Barf 🤮
What really upsets me, is Leia said ALL the members were "leaving her out" and "bullying" her, but for some reason her mom and fans only came for Fatou........
Especially considered the fans were make racist comments, I feel like her mom singled her out simply because of racisim.....
Also she claimed she was upset she wasn't able to see her mom, but homegirl still lives in korea as we speak....
Nah sis was mad the attention wasn't on her.
when the documentary came out all of the fans of leia left the building because they couldn't defend her when they got evidence so where are you at now? where is the so called i'm going to ride or die fans?
A lot are still there trying to defend her because they can’t accept that its been proven that she was in the wrong😭
@@HayleeCoded exactly I read somewhere there was this particular person commenting " WTH You guys still hating Leia? Seems like it's just us Brazilian's who know the truth . Poor Leia had to leave because of that"evil Fatou " like wth
@@Breezely_breeze and they are also trying to say both of them were in the wrong but before the doc came out it was just fatou’s fault and Leia was a victim, how does that make any sense?? They are trying to find any way to make it seem like Fatou was wrong.
@@HayleeCoded They are just bully and racists. Leia plotted against her and they are like we like Leia Fatou she is black she must be evil -_- weirdos
I believed Fatou since the Twitter post and I'm glad that justice was served I was definitely there when she received hate I will never forget that!
Leia and her fans truly to this day believe that she was the most popular in the group and that now that’s she’s gone the group is suffering from her absence when it’s literally the exact opposite. She was immature, egotistical, and didn’t actually want to put in any work to gain fame, she just wanted it handed to her and to be babied. And all this bs because she said she missed her mom, and DR sent her back to Brazil to be with her mom the first thing she does is go to the damn club, and she still came back to Korea for what? You said you wanted to be with your mom and tried to ruin people’s lives ans careers, go be with your mom in Brazil then, why is she still even in Korea?
Leia and Samara fans:🤝
@@chesiresays no cause the way they treated katseye especially Manon, saying they were gonna flop 🤦🏽♀️. And now katseye and blackswan are like sisters. Karma is crazy
@@thatquietkid9005exactly same thing
They're so delusional Fatou was the most popular and I did remember them saying that. Now look at Blackswan now doing much better than and without her and now Syria and Fatou are the most popular members😂😂
@@chesiresaysWhat do you mean by Samara? She was a victim of fake news and everyone who is well informed already knows this because it has already been resolved, you don't even know how to translate the subtitles of the videos properly or looking for real evidence and want to accuse people... don't bring her into this.
Fatou is so professional. Ahe holds the group like a mom .She is so hardworking. It's good that blackswan is now more great.
You can tell Fatou wasn’t lying because she’s speaking about Leia’s behavior towards her and those around her, whereas Leia played victim and I don’t like the smirk she made during the apology video. She’s weird.
The reason i believe fatou is cuz i know a person exactly like her and it gives me chills how similar our situations are
same
FR like it’s easy for people of colors to be targeted of something they didn’t do and having to bear with no one wanting to believe you 😢 I’ve been there before and it’s a horrific experience, so Léia should’ve known this type of situation was detrimental to Fatou mentally. #fatouneverlied #leiaisaliar
Yuppp people who’ve dealt with Leia’s knew what was up from the beginning.
Blackswan is doing good without her
But now the company is the problem 😢
To any racists who agree with those hate comments. K-pop is based from Black culture/music… so ya. If y’all wanna say Fatou doesn’t belong cuz she’s not Asian then all K-pop groups need to stop rapping, R&B, and any hip hop Afro dancing.
Well said 👏🏾💯
FACTS
And it still is well said
Right ! If they wanna play those games then Go ahead take those braids out, get those grills out of your mouth and stop the aave…. 🥴The list goes on….
@@Likelyfairy no frllll Jay Park is one of many. Like come on they wanna hate us sooo bad but if it wasn’t for Black people music wouldn’t be where it is today. Country, Rock, R&B, hip hop sooo much more.
I remember this whole controversy + Leia trying to get into those "gay K-pop moments" videos by grabbing two of the Korean members ' chests or kissing Fatou which they obviously didn't consent to. The whole scandal was so nerve-racking and I'm just relieved to see the truth being told!
This is the reason why Luminas stopped supporting her and it’s because she was too immature/selfish and wanted everything for herself only. She was the one who caused problems for the girls and yet she kept acting like she was the “victim” when she isn’t. She really craved attention she didn’t need straight away that she didn’t realise this type of behaviour doesn’t work well in a group society and that’s why the group isolated from her. Her fans are making things worse by defending her actions and refusing to hold her accountable while rather pinning the blame on Swannies for the things they didn’t do, which shows she wasn’t mentally ready nor mature enough to handle the pressure of fame. Sorry but this was her chance and she blew it, very disappointed 😢 #fatouneverlied #leiaisaliar #blackswanxluminas
Fatou is not the victim either, Leia did not attack Fatou's family and never liked racist posts. When Fatou needed it you helped, but when it was Leia you ran away blindly.
@@Linecamilo812 yeah and what about it? I can understand why others would think she overreacted and that’s fine, but as someone of color knows what it’s like to deal with accusations of vile things anyone of color can be vilified for, I can also say Larissa should’ve known better than to accuse someone of color of something they didn’t do and let it spiral out for worse.
@@Linecamilo812 Stop trying to defend Leia when she’s clearly a narcissist
Now this is what "pick me" really stands for what she had been doing all those years like Leia literally degraded Fatou and made her go the hell out of those HATE COMMENTS and RACISM 😢. I am glad that she left. And the audacity of her to still blame Sriya and Gabi for the departure of the Korean members when she was the main cause of that🤦.
Now with the new line up I will keep supporting Blackswan ❤
I'm happy that everything is fine now. Fatou we love you ❤❤
as a Brazilian Lumina, I've always sided with Fatou, simply because the story of the Brazilian fan page that got a message from a parent sounded too sus.
As things went on, my friend and I talked about how Leia was probably full of herself because she was young and living the dream of a lot of Brazilian girls: being a k-pop idol.
Turns out we were right the whole time, I'm glad the truth came to light, and I really hope that Fatou is recovering from all of this, I also hope that this incident doesn't stop them from coming to Brazil, there are still fans that would receive them with open arms ♡
As someone who has mental health issues, they are NO EXCUSE for treating others badly. Have I done that in the past? Yes. And i took responsibility for my actions and apologized. Mental health issues didn't possess me and force me to say mean things, I did that. I regret it, and I made it clear I would never do that again.
Accountability cannot be forgotten when treating mental health.
Who is going to tell all of the K-pop super fans that their music has been derived from American pop and American hip Hop? The gatekeeping is unreal😂
And to add to that, those genres were derived from jazz and blues, which culturally came from black people in America 😂😂😂❤❤❤
because how do you gatekeep music! we are meant to enjoy it right!
@@squizzyicetea The fan culture and concept were also heavily inspired by japan and all the producers are swedish
African Americans are the progenitors of JAZZ, SOUL, BLUES and POP, and much of the world-renown billion-selling pop songs everyone knows! Much of what Kpop has was derived from other cultures.
literally.. like how many times do we need to have this conversation 😭😭
Someone said to me when I was younger "you spout lies the truth is always behind and waiting to come out just like the darkness always has light behind it" this is a great example of that quote.
Fatou, NVee, Gabi & Sriya are match made in Heaven🌌✨
3 super-talented but chaotic kids😂 made everything Right for their all-rounder super-woman Strong💪 Mama ❤🖤
The positive thinking & energy that NVee, Gabi & Sriya had is the perfect chef-kiss ingredient in Mama Fatou's life🖤🦢
Cultural Appropriation Example #1: enjoying a genre of music that originated from/is heavily influenced by black artists, then wondering if/why black people should participate. KEEP IN MIND: black producers are sending demos to groups; black choreographers are choreographing routines…make it make sense to me.
Thats why i dont listen to this kind of music.
I think you mean black choreographers. Theres a select number of songwriters that are asked by kpop companies for demos and majority are white , or diverse songwriter group. But i agree, koreas adaptation to hiphop is appropriation because there are crazed stans that will go on to hate a black artist, even though they were clearly sampled, or believe only Koreans should be in the industry. Its blatant racism ( and korean nationalism ideology as well)
@@CBNM1same.
Thank You 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👊🏾
"Why are black people in KPOP whats the point" KPOP is literally based off black music and some of black culture , JYP and YG (I think) said it themselves. so what was THEIR POINT! Thats why KPOP companies need to give credit when credit is due, they dont give credit to black people at all. Its weird.
I you are stupid don't hate black people 😢😢
Leia literally reminded of my ex childhood friend who's just like her! No difference lmao.. always play the victim card, denying nd twisting her words, talking shit behind my back, getting jealous and wanting to be the main character so bad nd many things!
I'm happy that Leia was kicked out of the group nd i kicked out that mf from my life lol
1:22 what the! What does that user mean by " why do black people need to be in kpop" !!!!!
Ikr?!
We know how many toxic fans stoop to any level to "SUPPORT" or "HATE" the person they want to 😢
I get so frustrated when people blame their mental health issues as a excuse for their shitty behaviour!
A person with a victim mindset and a superiority complex is the worst
Sounds like a group named NJ with their quote in quote mama.
@@BTS-Sommythey're manipulated teenage girls. Doesn't completely justify it tho
It is terrible, because a lot of people in Brazil is black or have black ascendance
Even black Brazilians suffer from racism and colorism, their even white supemcits politician who threaten genocide against black Brazilians and natives
And then is one of the most racists countries. Is kinda a hell to be black in brazil.
BlackSwan is perfect as is. They just need better marketing!!
Leia also sexually harassed the members by inappropriately touching them. I believe there are clips of her actions on youtube
Leia is so insufferable💀
reading fatou's story has actually touched me in a way. i experienced many fake, narcissitic friends in the past. and her saying she suddenly snapped at her and said bad things to leia is relatable, too. im glad leia left the group.
The worst of all is that even with everything out, Leia's fans which are mainly brazillian will still defend her JUST BECAUSE she's brazillian. Not because she's right, not because she's wrong but because they are from the same nationality. One thing was going against Fatou and everything she said at the time but they also didn't believe the Korean members.
Funny enough, while they praise Leia, they seem to have an issue with their own artists in their country when it garners the attention of koreans and Korean media. Some still speak ill of Anitta even though she battled hard to be where she is and she does the same concepts of foreign artists brazillians are okay with.
Also, going back at when everything happened, Fatou saying she was hyperfixating on her is because she's black. There's no other answer. She couldn't go after the Korean members because they were in Korea but also because a lot of non-black girls have this thought they are better than black girls and get a reality check when that is not the case. There has been time and time again of cases of this happening exposed on the internet.
Vá com Deus, Larissa!
Anyone can become a kpop idol no MATTER what RACE as long as they can dance and have good singing vocals. The fact that the people included race into this, is ridiculous.
leia used her mental health as an excuse to blame it on her is stupid. Her FANS and herself need to get help and stop victimizing their selfs. if a kpop idol is gonna be toxic, they SHOULDN'T even deserve to get any attention
She always reminds me of that latina girl from fifth harmony camila
She does actually 😂 👍 no wonder I got that vibe from her
Latinos hate black people and always feel jealous if they see black people doing better then them
Of course is because all latinos are all the same 😒@@munchiebear
Camila? Why? Because she's Latina? I see where you're going with this.
That was what I was saying all this time
This is why not every idol is "an angel", "a goddess", e.t.c.
You shouldn't even be calling them that in the first place cause we don't know who they really are.
Stans getting butt hurt about black people being in kpop while completely ignoring all of the hip hop and Afrobeat influences will always make me laugh. Modern kpop wouldn’t be what it is today without black influences
Narcissistic, I’m glad she’s not coming back to the group.
Leai was simply a kpop stan who made her dream come true and got too egotistical without the talent to match. Yougheun had the most experience and vocal talent in the group and didn’t act half as entitled as she did. She was simply playing the part of an idol, something the rest of the girls didn’t have the luxury of doing. And once she was done playing the part she wanted to ruin it for everyone else. I truly hope she gets help and finds peace somewhere else, the spotlight is the last place people like her need to be in.
I'm glad they got rid of Leia because she was not putting in no effort and holding the company back. Blackswan is stronger now.
Not only was she skipping practices and kept getting away with slacking off while also demanding things being handed to her only, but she is also the reason why the previous lineup wasn’t successful as now and she is also the reason why Swannies might not be able to visit Brazil 🇧🇷 cause then her rabid fans would terrorise them and blame them for herself not being at the level they are at now. That’s why some Luminas beef with them because the Larilights are too delusional to accept reality.
Excuse me? Using the mental health card? OOOH I HATE PEOPLE USING THAT BULLSHIT!!! AS AN ANXIETY FILLED/AUTISTIC FILLED PERSON, I WOULD NEVER I SWEAR ON MY LIFE I WOULD NEVER DO STUFF LIKE THAT!!! I HATE PEOPLE WHO USES THOSE CARDS AS EXCUSES, I'M DONE, THEY MAKE PEOPLE LIKE US LOOK LIKE MONSTERS, WE'RE NOT MONSTERS, WE'RE HUMAN!!!
Understand that mental health is a spectrum. You might not do anything like that but your on one end of the spectrum. Unfortunately there are darker sides to these mental issues, a lot of times people forget that.
@@amethyst_stori
You're right
well , fatou is now much happier w her girls and is doing great. i'm happy for her
Unrelated note: Fatou looks so pretty here. I dont follow blackswan too closely so i only ever see her with bright hair, makeup, and contacts. Also she looked so cute with her two puff balls💕💕
i alwsays knew brazilian fandoms have quite the more toxic fans AMONGST them. this is another situation that happened with KATSEYE and samara too.
and the company should've never kept leia if they knew she had some mental illness like this. there is a reason why idols go on hiatus once they develop one mental illness. to even hire one knowing they had it before becoming an idol is js disappointing
I believe Fatou there's no way a black girl in a kpop group is going to be mean to her members because she knows she is expendable and will be replaced anytime if she messes up
As a Brazilian, I am very disappointed. Because this gives people a bad image of us. I know that not everyone is like that, but just thinking that some people might think that all of us are like that, it gives me the creeps.
As someone partly of Portuguese 🇵🇹 descent with huge admiration for the Brazilian 🇧🇷 artists, I feel sorry for you for feeling embarrassed by what Larissa has done and I apologise in behalf of the Luminas that are retaliating by attacking her back and negatively generalising your people because I’m sure Brazil 🇧🇷 is very friendly(even if there are bad “apples).
@@munchiebear ohhh I appreciate it!! ❤️
Que imagem ruim? Que o brasil é um pais extremamente racista sendo que é?
Eu sempre soube que o problema da Leia era racismo estrutural. Sempre!
A direferença é que o Brasileiro esta acostumando com a baixa estima do negro aqui. E a sociedade brasileira naturaliza o racismo, quando cjegam numa estrutura onde racismos não é tolerado acontece o que aconteceu com a Leia.
@@loomis-t2q eu moro aqui nos EUA, e a taxa de racismo aqui é muito maior do que no Brasil. Não sei se você está falando de vários países em geral, ou comprando aqui com o Brasil, mas nessa questão, não tem muita diferença não.
It never sat well with me Leia saying “Fatou never liked me” because in one interview in Portuguese (I’m Brazilian so I can understand it) at the beginning of the group, she said she was always the closest with Fatou, because Fatou was the only other foreigner. It didn’t make any sense for me saying someone was the closest to you and then after saying this person never liked you and you always knew it
My Question is where is the boss? Fire her! Well she left but. She should had been fired way way earlier
Well, according to the Apple TV docu series, DR thought of removing Léia from the group for breaching her contract, but realised that would affect the Swannies’ building audience to Brazil 🇧🇷 (since she was the “most popular”who could bring in Brazilian fans, (but that already happened when she left and the Brazilian Luminas were interested in the girls because of Gabi and Fatou, not her)) and that her Larilight fanbase would boycott the group if she was out, so they held her for as long as they could until she realised she wasn’t at the best state after the second show in Belgium 🇧🇪.
That Leia's girl is an antisocial narcissist
Fatou is the real winner. Wow, the hell she went through.
Leia, needs to shut her mouth. She messed this up for herself. Fatou wants to have a good successful group. She’s doing what she needs to do to make sure that her group is successful. Leia messed that up for herself
The truth come to light and everyone knews that Fatou was right, isn’t a karma? Praying that the girls are doing well after this.
This incident is what made me become a fan of Fatou, finally a fan of the group after Leia was kicked.
This is a great example of "office shows manners", she got some attention and became a nuisance to everyone around her. I hope the memebers who left because of her find some peace as well. And i wish nothing but the best to BlackSwan
Fatou suffered a lot thankfully shriya and gabi are fine now it could've destroyed their mental health
I had a friend exactly like Leia, this vid describes her scarily to a T.
The fact that this woman was my bias..
Don't blame yourself, you didn't know.
I feel so bad for Fatou! She didn't deserve all that.. I am Brazilian, but I never liked her, well.. I thought is was cool how they debuted a Brazilian in a kpop group. But Fatou was always my Bais in the group and still is, because they are ROCKING THE NEW ALBUM!
And you guys know what's get me more pissed off, is that Leia left the group saying that she wasn't well, that she was being missed threated by the girls and that she wanted to go back to Brazil.. But what is she still doing in korea?! I found her social medias and she still in Korea, so I don't get it!! What was that all for?! Was it worth it?!
I remember when this all started happening, I was so embarassed and angry that the first brazilian idol we had was being such an awful person. Like, this could jeopardize not only a group with such amazing potential to be revolutionary to K-Pop, but also the chances of more brazilian people getting into the industry.
Needless to day, I was relieved when Gabi joined and I am quite happy with how things are going now with Blackswan and I wish them all the success.
People are so racist ,they think black people don't have the right to be a kpop Idol not only that but also in other things what do they who are they to say that they are just jobless people on the internet kpop is were you express your talent yes also visuals but talent is more important and she has the talent it's nothing like you have to be asian for it
Excuse us? Dare to do anything to sriya you will face whole Indian kpop fans anger.
Except no one did anything to Leia, she is the one that messed up
L them for bullying fatou💀 they racist af. L THEM. L them for supporting leia.
Is what i wanted to say. but if they didnt more research into this. Its honestly sad and sickening. SHE DID NOT DESERVE GO APOLOGIZE. smh. the things people can do. Glad the truth was revealed!
Now that I know all this information, I will be a bigger fan of Black Swan and pay more attention to their music and future activities. 🎉❤
Karma exists I strongly believe it... sometimes it might take some time but it does happens
OMG! The drama!! I'm here sipping my tea.
I have someone like Leia in my school, which I wouldn't say I like at all. It's really frustrating when people do these things. She recently tried to separate my friends from me. Fatou never deserved that hate. Hopefully, Leia has learned here lesson.
Well, one thing for sure ㅡ she is INTIMIDATED by Fatou, which makes her scared to be "shadowed" by Fatou's popularity and her, not being the "center of attention". Periodt.
I’m bipolar, and if my mental health hurts anyone ITS MY FAULT. Leia needs to take responsibility but I fear her family enables and coddles her
"She doesn't have Asian Blood" wtf is she gonna make music using her blood. What a stupid comment what does skin color have anything to do with music. The ignorance people have baffles me.
Thanks for explaining this, I keep getting vid about this drama on tiktok, but there's no explanation:')
Leia is literally a narcissist. I’m glad she left the group.
This just goes to show you how important it is to not give into what the media speculates over whats the reality and truth behind closed doors! We should never side with anyone because we dont know them nor have we ever the possibility to really know the truth! In this case it really sucks that the truth came out after the damage was done! I feel so sorry for Fatou but she looks like she is built tough although im sure it surely was a difficult time for her but the truth always comes out and even though its too late im glad and happy for her that now the idiots that tried to bring her down are sorry for what they did and i really hope they are because if they're not well they will learn the hard way im sure one day! No bad deed goes unpunished!
In Fatou's defense. It's a kpop group with no Koreans. She has just as much of a right to be there as the others. The whole point is that the group isn't Korean but they're making kpop. Although, to be honest kpop copies from Black American culture a lot and (it also has 2000s pop vibes as well in my opinion), so I don't see why black people shouldn't be in kpop if they want to if kpop copies black culture. Kpop (in my opinion) is 2000s pop music (with hip hop and RnB elements), but it's sung in korean. You can obviously see that bands like NSYNC, The Backstreet Boys, Mindless Behaviour, Destiny's Child, Pussycat Dolls and TLC (I don't know who else I should be adding to this list) were a huge inspiration for this genre. These are American boybands/girlbands that are mass produced. American girlbands/boybands have had black people in them, so what's the problem?
Such issues arise when there's insercurities and a lack of abilities with a individual because you want sympathy and brownie points for your feelings, not hard work. That's the difference between Fatou and Leia.
Yeah ! I remember all those moments too... I never liked Leia from the very start for I always was able to read through her facade... she maybe going through mental issues but she was also the reason for all other's mental health issues as well... a very selfish and narcistic natured person and more over I always felt Fatou was more like a challenge for her that she did not like and wanted out by demeaning her in a very subtle way. Love the Black Swan group with their four members. I feel they are absolutely complete now.
I guess the song KARMA was for leia lol
It was actually because she was learning the lyrics and struggled to find a note 😂 guess her lack of hard work really showed just how privileged she was being
I obviously didn’t know she 100% was the issue prior to the documentary but i believed Fatou because she was the one who provided the most information. In the documentary she can be seen doing a lot of the things Fatou claimed in her post and i just felt bad for Fatou. Fatou said she considered throwing herself out of a 10th floor after the korean members left (and they left because of Leia’s scandal).
Let it be known that one of the first ever K-pop groups to exist was based on a black band. Yeah she has the right 1:31
I knew it! I knew it! There is: (NO SUCH THING AS FRIENDS)! It is a competition! Much less in the music industry. Anyone that says K-Pop idols are (”friends”)… It is more a business partner than (a” friends”)-
Honestly im glad Leia left the group.
Fatou❤❤fansss here
The live stream to address this was so upsetting. Farouk owned up to her part and apologised to both Leia and the fans but when Leia read her “apology” she left out a huge chunk that, I think, was meant to be an apology for her behaviour and to Fatou but she compelelty missed that part. The look on the other girls faces said it all. I hate that Fatou had to go through all of this. She seems to be genuinely nice person and loves her members a lot. Leia was a horrible member to everyone, staff, fans and the girls themselves. I can’t believe that there are people still defending Leia.
Lumina loves fatou 🎉
I bet now Leia's Brazilian fans feel stupid now that the documentary is out 💀🤡
As a Brazilian citizen I have never defended Leia, I find her childish, racist and problematic attitude ridiculous. Honestly, she's from a mixed/ multicultural country, her being a racist just shows how bad and rotten she is, or how little respect she learned from parents or family idk.
Well, they’re still delusional and would rather pin the blame on Swannies(even more so on Fatou just because they’re still convinced that she “hurt” her when in reality Léia’s actions hurt the girls), but they already know the b*ch is already being condemned online and isn’t the “most popular member” they claim her to be in terms of a international fandom (she’s more popular with the local Brazilian and Portuguese-speaking audience, but most of international Luminas never really payed much attention to her, simply because Fatou is more charming/memorable and she lacks individual character 😂). No wonder she got a taste of her own medicine/she’s facing the consequences of her actions and she can miss out on the opportunities the rest of Swannies have now 😁. #leiaisaliar #fatouneverlied #blackswanxluminas
I mean it’s not like all brazilians knew her or stanned her, she was and still is a nobody, some of her fans are probably embarrassed and sticking to their guns out of pride but i have seen other brazilian fans criticize her, as the comment from above said, she is from an extremely diverse country and her behavior doesn’t speak well about her.
@@SpudhutCXrepobviously the truth like there’s plenty of Brazilian stans who don’t know much about her and are more interested in Black Swan than her and that’s what upsets her Leisardlight fans(they expect every Brazilian stan to support her and boycott Swannies, but in reality, it’s the opposite) 😂
@@SpudhutCXrepthats why they said Leia brazilians fans
Blackswan is NOT Rania, the members and the company already said this before
People really need to get over black people branching out to other genres. Like skin color doesn’t depict what someone likes. Who said that was a thing???? Stop being so dense and naive and grow up 🙄🙄🙄
I am brazillian and even if i wanted to defend her, I know that bad people exists everywhere, INCLUDING MY COUNTRY, so I don't doubt it.
I am brazilian and i didn't and don't support Leia in this.
i have someone just like her in my life its a headache istg
Honestly, most brazilians weren't on Larissa's side. Just the loud ones. We are a country with more than 50% of the population being black, so we also dont appreciate racism. Leia was sure that we were going to support her just because she is Brazilian. We do that, but not for her.
😂In denial
HAD Korean members. R.I.P. Younghuen, love you ❤️
reminds me of that crap years ago with T-ara. Glad it was shut down real quick
Sooo basically a MHJ kind of person.
Tout le monde sait comment on traite les noirs au Brésil! Lorsqu'on va arrêter ces haines , on ne verra plus ce racisme! Triste monde.