I thought Badvillain’s debut song was a good song and also I’m tired of people comparing them to XG, they are NOT XG, nor BABYMONSTER, they are BADVILLAIN
Honestly, bad villain came in with an amazing song, amazing Choreo and just did better than other debuts. It’s just they didn’t come from a big company.
All we kept hearing over the years was Teddy, Teddy, Teddy and how he did everything for blackpink . But they never mentioned the people behind the scenes helping Teddy at yg. Well, let's see how he manages meovv
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv.
Ahm there are US-american fans and stans that DO care, aparently. You will barely find anyone with that much free time and lack of actual interests in the rest of the west.
Okay batter up might not be anyones cup of tea but wether u like it or not or you’ll say itwas BM debut even if it’s not objectively it is still the most viewed mv debut by any kpop act in history! And the same thing happened to their OFFICIAL debut where Ahyeon back with the group with sheesh they still hold that record as the most viewed debut mv by any kpop act in history!!!!
babymonster is already rising in fame, able sold out arenas just for a fanmeet and now doing a world tour... they are clearly making a strong loyal fandom slowly, coz i cant 100% trust the charts, views and album sales since some fandom is buying bulk and streaming nonstop idk what is organic anymore
@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL blinks and monstiez already had conflict since debut 🥲 babymonster cant even chart and win on music shows which blinks can easily get for blackpink
@playamelodythateverybodyknows the only organic growth from a girl group is XG. All these girl groups from HYBE, SM, JYP, and YG are privileged and got everything handed to them on a sliver plate.
Just like most big 4 groups there will always be a space for them. And there will always be fans exaggerating their success or popularity. At this point doesn’t even matter if the debut is successful because kpop fans have shown they will literally take and praise everything given to them. Most groups have fandoms before they even debut. So it’s not the music that is selling. It’s the person/image. Because if we were to base kpop on musical creativity most would be getting a B through D-
Netizens : we want something new Companies : Here you go... Certian Netizens : eww no, that doesn't sound like everything else. Also certain netizens do nothing but compare & tare down groups, like do you even like Kpop?
"BabyMonster" the only kpop group at F1 grand prix Singapore..Along with international artist like Kylie minogue,the corrs,One republic and Lenny Kravitz...😅😅
💙It's yg and their artist who made teddy special but in reality he is not , there are a lot of people who help teddy in production and yg gives it a final touch , thank God he left now yg trying new things withbabymonster and they have good songs
@@Nush-b2qI have listened to all of black pinks songs and baby monster and none of them are alike at all. I was watching reactors say that but could not find any comparison on the songs at all. The video production is similar but it’s YG so of course there will be similarities there but I don’t hear any similarities in the songs or vocals between the two groups
Babymonster's debut song Batter up needed work I get it. I speculate that its because of Ahyeon's departure last year. But now Ahyeon returned to Babymonster and that group redebuted with their song Sheesh. The song was incredible, its much better than Batter up. The music video got over 1 million views on the first day. Its now has 1 billion views probably, Their album copies got sold out, they performed on music shows, and their live vocals were mind blowing. They even had a live band for their last performances. Babymonster had a successful redebut.
Mark my words! BABYMONSTER is clearly the leader of 5th gen and you know what’s crazy? Let’s give them a year or two and they’ll take over 4th and 5th gen! They can even compete with 3rd gen that’s how INSANNEEE they are!
I mean the badvillian thing is toooo... obvious. Like they could have promoted there song more. On UA-cam shorts or some trending challenges but increasing the number of views and that too of a non-promoted debut group is actually very suspicious
I mean not suspicious at all, they just paid loads for adds, not a bad thing at all especially for a smaller company where getting any reach is what actually matters. Was it very succesfull, no but i do not see that as bad especially since its from a small company, if it was a big company doing it that much then id see an issue.
Hey kookielit! In 6:15 youve used a picture and clip of Gahyeon from dreamcatcher while the member was probably GAWON from the group, who is the best vocalist.
Meovv is the first group I stan and it's worth it. They are very talented. I don't know why some monstiez ass get burned calling Narin an ace😂 I like that the group doesn't try hard to lòok CRINGE FAKE CUTE HORNY. Though Ella is the maknae she is the simplèst one I have seen so far. They are very natural.
@@komalsharda128 nope...i can say I like Babymonster just the way I like BP, Gidle, Aespa. Ruka is my first bias in whole kpop so practically the grp is special to me but I am not an OT7. But in meovv I am an ot5
As a Monstiez Honestly I love everyone And Also I Love Badvillan Too. Badvillan is very talented And in my eyes they also deserves love and support.❤️❤️❤️🤗 Now we have to take Badvillain to international people, Badvillain's songs are very Awesome and those songs deserve to More Attention to International People's.
Babymonster Batter up debute had no promotional activities, cause Ahyeon was on hiatus, thats why YG gave them that debute/ per debute Single ( and they still ein Rookie of the year ) it was the Most watched, Most streamed debute in 2023, and the expectations were unrealistic. They managed to impress due to their individual Talents and outstanding charms…. And than In 2024 they debuted with Ahyeon and Sheesh …. And made an insane impact on global Music Plattforms and started promoting as OT7…. People can think about Sheesh what they want, but they inpressed a Lot of Music Fans all over the world🔥 You cant comparing the Babymonster debute to the other debuts in this Video…. The diff is insane high In summary…. The Most watched debute MV/s of 5th gen Batter up and Sheesh / the Most streamed 5th gen group / and The Most liked UA-cam MV in Kpop Historie ( Sheesh together with Shut down ) the Most anticipated and Most talented group with the biggest impact not only in the kpop Industrie… had a Flop debute??? If so? What Are the other in that Video 😂
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv's debut. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv. People tend to overshadow them to be like blackpink they forget these groups have there own identity's.
Imo the market is so saturated that you really need a catchy and interesting debut AND charismatic members. Being a good vocalist is not enough, look at NMIXX and BM, even coming from a famous company, look at MEOVV. Also I feel the general public just does not forgive, like what happened to Itzy, once people start thinking they are flopping, then they will close their ears to the music. I still like NMIXX and BM music tho
@@OMG-si3wn why so defensive? Read my comment again, I never said they flopped. I don’t think NMIXX flopped either, and it’s too early to say that for MEOVV
I didn't even know about all of this about Badvillain before this video, they were just naturally reallly popular because they undoubtedly have one of the best dance line-up & choreo we've seen in kpop in a really long time, everyone I know was so excited about their debut and super obsessed with the songs. From the music to the choreo, they just bring something to kpop a lot of people including myself have been missing. From my pov they definitely had one of the most successful debuts of the year, especially coming from a not yet well established company.
I think it's safe to say that with "Drip," Baemon has found their groove. And that's the problem with a lot of groups like Meovv. They're obviously talented, but their debut mv didn't do anything for the song, which actually plays better in the dance performance video. Sometimes you just have to wait it out with a group until they find a song that hits, so I don't think we should write any group off until they've had a few songs under their belts.
Ok maybe batter up was kinda but the rest is very good, they have vocals, visuals, all rounders, trained for many years, stage presence and mostly live stable vocals, I wanna say for me they are best of this generation. 🤍
why did you only consider Batter Up for BM? when they also have Sheesh where Ahyeon is included. It should be considered tbh coz that's the debut song of OT7, the original BM
@@l3_leechaiyeon In 2016 Blackpink's debut wasnt that impactful. They had been treated like other girl groups before they gained global impact with Ddu Ddu.
Ofcourse you have to include Babymonster and use them as your template front cover to obviously gain what VIEWS? Coz you know exactly that a lot were gonna watch it?? Lol Babymonster debut is a massive hit fun fact Sheesh is the most viewed MV debut in 24hrs by any kpop act in history isn’t that a hit? Garnnering 24…+ Million in 24hours! Actually they are the kpop group with the most anticipated debut not to mention their INSANE popularity even pre debut era. They are the most popular and has the most hit in this generation you know what’s crazy? They can even compete with 4th gen and even 3rd gen!!! We didn’t see kpop group like BM having this massive attention after BP!
Can you tell me what group did like this records before ..with debut MV ? BABYMONSTER's debut single, "Batter Up", has achieved several notable milestones: Fastest 200 million views "Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 200 million views the fastest, surpassing BLACKPINK's record. Fastest 50 million views "Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 50 million views the fastest. iTunes song charts "Batter Up" topped iTunes' song charts in 21 countries. Debut K-pop group record The music video for "Batter Up" had over 28 million views in 24 hours, setting a new record for a debut K-pop group. #edit with no public appear? No promotions just drop MV alone which group did that before ?
I was thinking the Same about Badvillian and Meovv… BV debuted with Cheap Tricks, Bad Song and no Promotion, with 40mio views but close to 0 likes??? Now their new Release ( Comeback ) is Reality…. 70.000 views After 3hours thats nothing and that reflects how the groups popularity actually is…. And people call them component to Babymonster
@ for me personally yes… it wasnt correct from me that i Said its a Bad Song…. Iam sorry. The Song tried to make use of the succesfull and popular YG formular, but failed in all aspects…. It was better than the new one, but for me not a good Song
BADVILLAIN'S SONG WAS ONE OF THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD THIS YEAR WHICH GREW ON ME WITH JUST ONE LISTEN, I AM PRETTY SURE IF IT HAD COME FROM A BIG COMPANY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PRETTY BIG HIT. TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE READING THIS COMMENT, I WANT YOU TO CHECK OUT THE SONG IT'S A DEFENITE BOP AND YOU WILL FALL IN LOVE WITH IT IN THE FIRST LISTEN ITSELF 🎶 🎉❤
The only thing I really agree with besides the potentially inflated view count numbers is that Meovv's debut track fell kinda flat due to that repeatative aspect. Howver their new comeback song hits perfect for me so I hope it turns things around for them. I guess my final takeaway thought is all these issues discussed aren't on the performers themselves but rather their management and production teams.
i plan on making a video about nmixx because there's much more to them that it isn't obvius, it's not just a bad debut but something that impacted the entire industry.
Tbh teddy's way of producing worked for bp and others but for baby mon and meovv it feel like they didn't put much effort and just made it in a shallow way thinking ppl would eat it up but it was obvious. The instrument was not interesting and the chorus was boring too
BABYMONSTER has never worked with teddy which explains why BABYMONSTER has more frequent comebacks and BABYMONSTER works with in house and outside producers this is why they get praise for being versatile so please keep them out of this conversation
@@Baemon_pinkblink facts and don’t forget they have many producers now from Sweden know how to make new sound they are talented they good at making edm sound songs haha
It's because of the lack of promotion, Yg thought he could pull a blackpink with Babymonster and not promote them but he understood VERY quickly that not promoting them is not gonna work
Yeah it's flop like this BABYMONSTER's debut single, "Batter Up", has achieved several notable milestones: Fastest 200 million views "Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 200 million views the fastest, surpassing BLACKPINK's record.  Fastest 50 million views "Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 50 million views the fastest.  iTunes song charts "Batter Up" topped iTunes' song charts in 21 countries.  Debut K-pop group record The music video for "Batter Up" had over 28 million views in 24 hours, setting a new record for a debut K-pop group.
maybe on the korean market but not on the international market. Remember that groups do not need korea anymore to be successful like ateez and dreamcatcher.
badvillian who? they got anyone rap as awesome as asa? nmixx doesnt have catchy songs. meovv have 3 insanely beautiful models but songs and outfits are meh. babymonster been winning after debut, best new group, serious talent, love them, love asa
"It's not how you start that's important, but how you finish!" But in all seriousness, just give these groups time and let's see; some are just late bloomers and need a little more time to find their stride🙂 And when you know how capable & talented they are, there's no need to panic when it's all organic😉
I don’t understand why every 5th girl group have to be compare to other groups. People do not know at some point you will have a variation of certain concepts. And every K-pop group from bts , twice , blackpink, Stray kids, ….. they had their own growth ( trying to find yoursound has group )
⚠ I'm sorry, but there's a mistake in the video: Baby Boss Gahyun (가휸) aka Gahyeon, is a 25 yo Korean, shown in the video is a shining Dreamcatcher member and the group's Maknae since 2017. This is proven because we can see the girl you show in her unmistaken Dreamcatcher uniform and also see her singing Justice alongside fellow Dreamcatcher member SuA. But her vocal skills have indeed improved exponentially since debut. The MEOVV member is called Gawon (가원), aka Chloe, a 19 yo Korean-American singer. Gahyun's fan cam 🔗 ua-cam.com/video/6h-4Rv41LLo/v-deo.htmlsi=G_lumbsZ_D0w2sqV
- Badvillan: a very good song, certainly better than anything Babymonster had done. Maybe Babymonster should try copying them. - O:O: not a good song but - "too many sounds"? Reminds me of Joseph II. - Meovv: like it or not, it's a great satire on K-pop. - Babymonster did redebut. And redebut. And redebut. But see above. And once more: potential does not mean anything until it's realized.
The "Appropriation" Part is just insane. It wasnt a Durag and it wasnt Box Braids, cause for Box Braids you Braid the hair in Boxes from the Roots! She had normal Braids that were very common in Asia and Europe long before! So this is not really a "real thing" its typically uneducadet 14yo's making things up to feel special and rant about shiat! This whole Video is cool, but pretty outdated! Since BAEMON released a lot of hits in the last months and also grew on the Korean audience finally, they also get the recognition they deserve, for their Stable Vocals and Clean Raps! Its not like they are a "Flop" lol
Badvillain’s debut song was one of the best in recent times. O.o on the other hand was just noise to me, specially now that I know that girls can “actually sing“ unlike so many others. Jyp really did them bad. Baby monster’s batter up was not bad but not great but their recent songs are good. Anyway I hope people stop sleeping on Badvillain.
Dark concept would have definitely fit meovv, everything about them screamed scary, in a fun way🤔 it’s always funny to me how these companies try to break into the western market and end up culturally appropriating black people, I don’t know if they are just ignorant or just don’t care about African Americans, I’d go with the latter cos there’s no way they have no clue that they’re appropriating cultures that are not theirs
8 million views look fishy but 164719619734612973129312 million views in Babymon MV's dosen't? x'DDD Don't get me wrong, the first it does look fishy but it's insane to me no one calls out YG for what they've done with Babymon
For me BABY MONSTER WILL BE A HIT IF THEY JUST DEBUTED ONLY 4 MEMBERS ON THE GROUP. AHYEON, RAMI , ASA & CHIQUITA. JUST MY TWO CENTS.😅 THE OTHER MEMBERS WERE TALENTED BUT LACKING OF CHARM AND CHARISMA FOR ME.
I think out of all the debuts included in this video, BADVILLIAN had the best one. I think thier debut and pre-debut videos showcased all of the members charms and talents equally. We got to see a little bit of everything. And I feel like thier debut really backed up just how talented they are. Out all the groups here BADVILLIANS the only group I care to check out on a regular basis. I only listen to 2 other groups in the video on rare occasion those groups being NMIXX and Babymonster. I like "run for roses" by NMIXX its a great song and the only song I listen to by them. I also like Batter up the original version and Like that by Babymonster. I haven't really been interested in anything meovvs put out yet.
6:18 you were talking about Meovv but suddenly you put the picture of Dreamcatcher's Gahyeon on screen as well as clips of her. before speaking about someone, please make sure you know WHO they are...
i agree.. especially babymon + o.o by nmixx .. they are the worst ! imagine if baby mon debut w drip !! or nmixx with run for roses !! they would break the internet, i swear 😮
Why are you comparing newjeans and bad villain newjeans is very popular and very known and bad villain wasn't as known then so it's kinda stupid to compare it
Yeah... Like I thought. Most Kpop stans don't know what the word "flop" means or all the other buzzwords they love to use and this channel is no different lmao. Please use google and look up the real definition of these words.
I thought Badvillain’s debut song was a good song and also I’m tired of people comparing them to XG, they are NOT XG, nor BABYMONSTER, they are BADVILLAIN
Thank you
Honestly, bad villain came in with an amazing song, amazing Choreo and just did better than other debuts. It’s just they didn’t come from a big company.
Every K-pop girl group wanna be like XG. XG set the standard so high that none of these K-pop ggs can't reach.
bad villain could NEVER be like xg
@@suiteprecure6854 bad villain doesn’t need to be XG, they’re bad villain.
we need to stop calling everything a flop when it's not as successful, flop means a complete failure
Anyone else noticed they use a picture and clip of Dreamcatcher's Gahyun?
Yeah I’m so confused
Maybe they’re talking abt gawon
@NayeonImLover they are talking about Gawon. It was most likely a mistake, probably like an auto correct or misreading of the name?
@ mhm
I sobbed Bcz I am such a big insomnia 😭 like dreamcatcher never flopped
All we kept hearing over the years was Teddy, Teddy, Teddy and how he did everything for blackpink . But they never mentioned the people behind the scenes helping Teddy at yg. Well, let's see how he manages meovv
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv.
Stop with the Culture Appropriate non sense! International Fan don't care. It's a style.
Ahm there are US-american fans and stans that DO care, aparently. You will barely find anyone with that much free time and lack of actual interests in the rest of the west.
fr like i don't care nor worry about cultural apropation?
nobody is saying idk like mexican food is now only german food
Okay batter up might not be anyones cup of tea but wether u like it or not or you’ll say itwas BM debut even if it’s not objectively it is still the most viewed mv debut by any kpop act in history! And the same thing happened to their OFFICIAL debut where Ahyeon back with the group with sheesh they still hold that record as the most viewed debut mv by any kpop act in history!!!!
LOL BABYMONSTER DEBUT WAS THE FAMOUS ONE
Having ads for MV is great way of promotion I dont get why thats a problem
IMO the bad villain and O.O has a best debut song
please get your mind out of the gutter
YES
You mean NMIXX right cuz I never heard of a group called O.O lol
@@AP-fi2di The person was referring to the debut songs, badvillain's debut song was also called bad villain
@@AP-fi2diBad villain is the debut song too
babymonster is already rising in fame, able sold out arenas just for a fanmeet and now doing a world tour... they are clearly making a strong loyal fandom slowly, coz i cant 100% trust the charts, views and album sales since some fandom is buying bulk and streaming nonstop idk what is organic anymore
Before they debuted, Babymonster already had an established fanbase from BLINK and YG.
@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL blinks and monstiez already had conflict since debut 🥲 babymonster cant even chart and win on music shows which blinks can easily get for blackpink
@playamelodythateverybodyknows the only organic growth from a girl group is XG. All these girl groups from HYBE, SM, JYP, and YG are privileged and got everything handed to them on a sliver plate.
Just like most big 4 groups there will always be a space for them. And there will always be fans exaggerating their success or popularity. At this point doesn’t even matter if the debut is successful because kpop fans have shown they will literally take and praise everything given to them. Most groups have fandoms before they even debut. So it’s not the music that is selling. It’s the person/image. Because if we were to base kpop on musical creativity most would be getting a B through D-
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL 1000%
i still dont understand why yall dont like MEOVV
and its still charting
the hate is so damn forced for both meovv and babymonster
Because YG and BL companies did not accept him for the position of cleaner, he was very angry. That is the reason for the long-standing feud.🤫🤫
Frr
i like the members but i personally dl the music
meow sounded good honestly ngl lol
Baby monster and flop in the same line is a crime
It's not a crime, it's a fact.
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naLmore like comeback of other group all flopped struggling to gain fans haha
@Ggggggg-g6j views doesn't always equal good. Not to mention, million of bot accounts.
Fr@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL haha so sad
Netizens : we want something new
Companies : Here you go...
Certian Netizens : eww no, that doesn't sound like everything else.
Also certain netizens do nothing but compare & tare down groups, like do you even like Kpop?
BABYMONSTER's debut track (Batter Up) is good!!! Not the best but it is good!!!
"BabyMonster" the only kpop group at F1 grand prix Singapore..Along with international artist like Kylie minogue,the corrs,One republic and Lenny Kravitz...😅😅
If BABYMONS7ER'S debut was a "flop" then sign me up to have flops like that, please! 😂😂😂😂
Dreamcatcher Gahyeon sudden cameo after 6 min mark
Babymonster had lots of impact when they were debuting🫡❗️❗️
Random Gahyun (Dreamcatcher) sighting 😂 6:15
💙It's yg and their artist who made teddy special but in reality he is not , there are a lot of people who help teddy in production and yg gives it a final touch , thank God he left now yg trying new things withbabymonster and they have good songs
Babymonster songs are rejected songs by blackpink . Nothing new
@@Nush-b2q u must not know that a lot of blackpink songs were 2ne1 songs
@@Nush-b2q you should watch their vlog song camp, they are transparent on their process in making songs
@@OMG-si3wn but both groups( 2ne1 and blackpink)were produced by teddy park and babymonster is not produced by teddy . So it's obvious who copied who
@@Nush-b2qI have listened to all of black pinks songs and baby monster and none of them are alike at all. I was watching reactors say that but could not find any comparison on the songs at all. The video production is similar but it’s YG so of course there will be similarities there but I don’t hear any similarities in the songs or vocals between the two groups
I liked BADVILLIAN debut 😢
Sameee
Why did KOOKIELIT stop doing daily/weekly kpop news?? I kinda miss the way they were doing their content before..
Babymonster's debut song Batter up needed work I get it. I speculate that its because of Ahyeon's departure last year. But now Ahyeon returned to Babymonster and that group redebuted with their song Sheesh. The song was incredible, its much better than Batter up. The music video got over 1 million views on the first day. Its now has 1 billion views probably, Their album copies got sold out, they performed on music shows, and their live vocals were mind blowing. They even had a live band for their last performances. Babymonster had a successful redebut.
O.O flooped?? The mv have 114 views i think
And the latest BM's comeback was just firrrrre 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mark my words! BABYMONSTER is clearly the leader of 5th gen and you know what’s crazy? Let’s give them a year or two and they’ll take over 4th and 5th gen! They can even compete with 3rd gen that’s how INSANNEEE they are!
I mean the badvillian thing is toooo... obvious. Like they could have promoted there song more. On UA-cam shorts or some trending challenges but increasing the number of views and that too of a non-promoted debut group is actually very suspicious
I mean not suspicious at all, they just paid loads for adds, not a bad thing at all especially for a smaller company where getting any reach is what actually matters. Was it very succesfull, no but i do not see that as bad especially since its from a small company, if it was a big company doing it that much then id see an issue.
@arstan8092 I agree 💯
Hey kookielit! In 6:15 youve used a picture and clip of Gahyeon from dreamcatcher while the member was probably GAWON from the group, who is the best vocalist.
Meovv is the first group I stan and it's worth it. They are very talented. I don't know why some monstiez ass get burned calling Narin an ace😂
I like that the group doesn't try hard to lòok CRINGE FAKE CUTE HORNY. Though Ella is the maknae she is the simplèst one I have seen so far. They are very natural.
Lol true...meovv members are very matured
ELLA IS 15 AND SO SHE BEHAVES LIKE NORMAL 15 YRS GIRL, UNLIKE SOME GROUP WHERE MAKNAE OR EVEN UNNIE BEHAVES LIKE A 5 YR OLD.
@komalsharda128 exactly and the whole group looks pretty realistic
@@Rukamylove-i6h How is meovv your 1st grp, don't you stan bm too?
@@komalsharda128 nope...i can say I like Babymonster just the way I like BP, Gidle, Aespa. Ruka is my first bias in whole kpop so practically the grp is special to me but I am not an OT7. But in meovv I am an ot5
As a Monstiez Honestly I love everyone And Also I Love Badvillan Too. Badvillan is very talented And in my eyes they also deserves love and support.❤️❤️❤️🤗
Now we have to take Badvillain to international people, Badvillain's songs are very Awesome and those songs deserve to More Attention to International People's.
You are not a Monstiezs.....wtf?
Babymonster Batter up debute had no promotional activities, cause Ahyeon was on hiatus, thats why YG gave them that debute/ per debute Single ( and they still ein Rookie of the year ) it was the Most watched, Most streamed debute in 2023, and the expectations were unrealistic. They managed to impress due to their individual Talents and outstanding charms…. And than In 2024 they debuted with Ahyeon and Sheesh …. And made an insane impact on global Music Plattforms and started promoting as OT7…. People can think about Sheesh what they want, but they inpressed a Lot of Music Fans all over the world🔥
You cant comparing the Babymonster debute to the other debuts in this Video…. The diff is insane high
In summary…. The Most watched debute MV/s of 5th gen Batter up and Sheesh / the Most streamed 5th gen group / and The Most liked UA-cam MV in Kpop Historie ( Sheesh together with Shut down ) the Most anticipated and Most talented group with the biggest impact not only in the kpop Industrie… had a Flop debute??? If so? What Are the other in that Video 😂
Well, YG balance-sheet tells it was indeed a big FLOP.
Numbers don't lie especially balance-sheet numbers.
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv's debut. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv. People tend to overshadow them to be like blackpink they forget these groups have there own identity's.
People need to quit calling everything a flop these days. People love to throw that word, same thing with the word, woke
Imo the market is so saturated that you really need a catchy and interesting debut AND charismatic members. Being a good vocalist is not enough, look at NMIXX and BM, even coming from a famous company, look at MEOVV. Also I feel the general public just does not forgive, like what happened to Itzy, once people start thinking they are flopping, then they will close their ears to the music. I still like NMIXX and BM music tho
bm has a huge fanbase dont know how u can say they flopped, meovv and nmxx on the other hand....
@@OMG-si3wn why so defensive? Read my comment again, I never said they flopped. I don’t think NMIXX flopped either, and it’s too early to say that for MEOVV
@@Eli-nl8rhnah it’s the truth other struggling right now while bm gain everyday haha
I didn't even know about all of this about Badvillain before this video, they were just naturally reallly popular because they undoubtedly have one of the best dance line-up & choreo we've seen in kpop in a really long time, everyone I know was so excited about their debut and super obsessed with the songs. From the music to the choreo, they just bring something to kpop a lot of people including myself have been missing. From my pov they definitely had one of the most successful debuts of the year, especially coming from a not yet well established company.
FR, I felt the same 🎉❤
Y'all I think it's Gawon not Gahyeon
I think it's safe to say that with "Drip," Baemon has found their groove.
And that's the problem with a lot of groups like Meovv. They're obviously talented, but their debut mv didn't do anything for the song, which actually plays better in the dance performance video. Sometimes you just have to wait it out with a group until they find a song that hits, so I don't think we should write any group off until they've had a few songs under their belts.
6:15-6:24 Uh...that's Gahyeon of Dreamcatcher...
Ok maybe batter up was kinda but the rest is very good, they have vocals, visuals, all rounders, trained for many years, stage presence and mostly live stable vocals, I wanna say for me they are best of this generation. 🤍
Badvillain used ads. Look at the likes and the comments.
Leave babymonster alone u baka
why did you only consider Batter Up for BM? when they also have Sheesh where Ahyeon is included. It should be considered tbh coz that's the debut song of OT7, the original BM
Red velvet debuted in 2014 with 4 members and yeri joined in 2015 still they celebrated their 10th anniversary this year. You understand my point😐
Whatevs,blah blah blah Babymonster ate. BATTER BATTER BATTER UP🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Come on guys be realistic babymonster debut is the most successful debut ever in kpop history
*Agreed. Only Korean general public probably get bored with YG sound, that why BM still didn't win on Korean music show yet.*
did you forget about blackpink?
@@l3_leechaiyeon In 2016 Blackpink's debut wasnt that impactful. They had been treated like other girl groups before they gained global impact with Ddu Ddu.
You mean, the biggest mass streaming by bot accounts in K-pop history?
Right???? Like this channel is indeed a HYBE stan hahahhaha
Ofcourse you have to include Babymonster and use them as your template front cover to obviously gain what VIEWS? Coz you know exactly that a lot were gonna watch it?? Lol Babymonster debut is a massive hit fun fact Sheesh is the most viewed MV debut in 24hrs by any kpop act in history isn’t that a hit? Garnnering 24…+ Million in 24hours! Actually they are the kpop group with the most anticipated debut not to mention their INSANE popularity even pre debut era. They are the most popular and has the most hit in this generation you know what’s crazy? They can even compete with 4th gen and even 3rd gen!!! We didn’t see kpop group like BM having this massive attention after BP!
Bad Villian was view botted.
Can you tell me what group did like this records before ..with debut MV ?
BABYMONSTER's debut single, "Batter Up", has achieved several notable milestones:
Fastest 200 million views
"Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 200 million views the fastest, surpassing BLACKPINK's record.
Fastest 50 million views
"Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 50 million views the fastest.
iTunes song charts
"Batter Up" topped iTunes' song charts in 21 countries.
Debut K-pop group record
The music video for "Batter Up" had over 28 million views in 24 hours, setting a new record for a debut K-pop group.
#edit with no public appear? No promotions just drop MV alone which group did that before ?
calling baemon flop. this is work of Behind The Scene payola
2:38 They didn't. They took something SM has been known for, gave it a name and made it the group's concept
Dreamcatcher needs Justice 😂, wth why is Gahyun in the vid
Babymonster 👀...❤They are amazing
I was thinking the Same about Badvillian and Meovv… BV debuted with Cheap Tricks, Bad Song and no Promotion, with 40mio views but close to 0 likes??? Now their new Release ( Comeback ) is Reality…. 70.000 views After 3hours thats nothing and that reflects how the groups popularity actually is…. And people call them component to Babymonster
Bad song? Are you sure bout that? Think Twice before speaking 😂
@ for me personally yes… it wasnt correct from me that i Said its a Bad Song…. Iam sorry.
The Song tried to make use of the succesfull and popular YG formular, but failed in all aspects…. It was better than the new one, but for me not a good Song
@@nightpictures3509 fine, it's look better, but I personally don't think that as YG formula, it's more like Teddy? I guess? But it still different
Not every song which isn't cute or bright is a Blackpink song 💀
BADVILLAIN'S SONG WAS ONE OF THE BEST SONG I'VE HEARD THIS YEAR WHICH GREW ON ME WITH JUST ONE LISTEN, I AM PRETTY SURE IF IT HAD COME FROM A BIG COMPANY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PRETTY BIG HIT. TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE READING THIS COMMENT, I WANT YOU TO CHECK OUT THE SONG IT'S A DEFENITE BOP AND YOU WILL FALL IN LOVE WITH IT IN THE FIRST LISTEN ITSELF 🎶 🎉❤
These companies are ruining their odols who have talent
Badvillain just Are so underrated
The only thing I really agree with besides the potentially inflated view count numbers is that Meovv's debut track fell kinda flat due to that repeatative aspect. Howver their new comeback song hits perfect for me so I hope it turns things around for them. I guess my final takeaway thought is all these issues discussed aren't on the performers themselves but rather their management and production teams.
Hell is not the same without you
lets be real. theyre not flop lol. you just have high expectations from these big companies.
i plan on making a video about nmixx because there's much more to them that it isn't obvius, it's not just a bad debut but something that impacted the entire industry.
Tbh teddy's way of producing worked for bp and others but for baby mon and meovv it feel like they didn't put much effort and just made it in a shallow way thinking ppl would eat it up but it was obvious. The instrument was not interesting and the chorus was boring too
More like teddy look at his release this year are mid haha no impact
teddy doesn't work with babymonster at all. He only works with meovv and is the main prducer of izna
BABYMONSTER has never worked with teddy which explains why BABYMONSTER has more frequent comebacks and BABYMONSTER works with in house and outside producers this is why they get praise for being versatile so please keep them out of this conversation
@@Baemon_pinkblink facts and don’t forget they have many producers now from Sweden know how to make new sound they are talented they good at making edm sound songs haha
Are you sure babymonsters debut was flopped?🤣🤣
Yes
@@akbarwalinot really , their debut broke records
@@akbarwali In your dreams...🤣
Babymonster are still rising, they are the most famous ones here of the new debuts
i enjoyed every debut song on this list ❤
The real flop is HINAPIA, but the song DRIP was amazing
Literally babymonster bater up was the biggest flop .
It's because of the lack of promotion, Yg thought he could pull a blackpink with Babymonster and not promote them but he understood VERY quickly that not promoting them is not gonna work
Yeah it's flop like this
BABYMONSTER's debut single, "Batter Up", has achieved several notable milestones:
Fastest 200 million views
"Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 200 million views the fastest, surpassing BLACKPINK's record.

Fastest 50 million views
"Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 50 million views the fastest.

iTunes song charts
"Batter Up" topped iTunes' song charts in 21 countries.

Debut K-pop group record
The music video for "Batter Up" had over 28 million views in 24 hours, setting a new record for a debut K-pop group.
maybe on the korean market but not on the international market. Remember that groups do not need korea anymore to be successful like ateez and dreamcatcher.
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FACTS: with all HONESTY BABYMONSTER debut is the most successful kpop debut in history y’all have to admit it objectively!
badvillian who? they got anyone rap as awesome as asa? nmixx doesnt have catchy songs. meovv have 3 insanely beautiful models but songs and outfits are meh. babymonster been winning after debut, best new group, serious talent, love them, love asa
just because the stylist did an "bad job", dosent mean you shopuld hate on the members
Bad Villian's song was one of my favorites of 2024
Bad villain are amazing. Their debut ATE up, If they were from any big company they'll get the actual praise they deserve.
"It's not how you start that's important, but how you finish!"
But in all seriousness, just give these groups time and let's see; some are just late bloomers and need a little more time to find their stride🙂
And when you know how capable & talented they are, there's no need to panic when it's all organic😉
I don’t understand why every 5th girl group have to be compare to other groups. People do not know at some point you will have a variation of certain concepts. And every K-pop group from bts , twice , blackpink, Stray kids, ….. they had their own growth ( trying to find yoursound has group )
i love badvillain so much I hope they will manage to survive as a group and keep releasing music
HIII!!!NICE VIDEO!!
⚠ I'm sorry, but there's a mistake in the video: Baby Boss Gahyun (가휸) aka Gahyeon, is a 25 yo Korean, shown in the video is a shining Dreamcatcher member and the group's Maknae since 2017. This is proven because we can see the girl you show in her unmistaken Dreamcatcher uniform and also see her singing Justice alongside fellow Dreamcatcher member SuA. But her vocal skills have indeed improved exponentially since debut. The MEOVV member is called Gawon (가원), aka Chloe, a 19 yo Korean-American singer.
Gahyun's fan cam 🔗 ua-cam.com/video/6h-4Rv41LLo/v-deo.htmlsi=G_lumbsZ_D0w2sqV
Tick tack now let's talk about that song
they hate talented groups meovv babymonster etc. while untalented groups loves by many people are disgusting
- Badvillan: a very good song, certainly better than anything Babymonster had done. Maybe Babymonster should try copying them.
- O:O: not a good song but - "too many sounds"? Reminds me of Joseph II.
- Meovv: like it or not, it's a great satire on K-pop.
- Babymonster did redebut. And redebut. And redebut. But see above.
And once more: potential does not mean anything until it's realized.
The "Appropriation" Part is just insane. It wasnt a Durag and it wasnt Box Braids, cause for Box Braids you Braid the hair in Boxes from the Roots! She had normal Braids that were very common in Asia and Europe long before! So this is not really a "real thing" its typically uneducadet 14yo's making things up to feel special and rant about shiat!
This whole Video is cool, but pretty outdated! Since BAEMON released a lot of hits in the last months and also grew on the Korean audience finally, they also get the recognition they deserve, for their Stable Vocals and Clean Raps! Its not like they are a "Flop" lol
Badvillain’s debut song was one of the best in recent times. O.o on the other hand was just noise to me, specially now that I know that girls can “actually sing“ unlike so many others. Jyp really did them bad. Baby monster’s batter up was not bad but not great but their recent songs are good. Anyway I hope people stop sleeping on Badvillain.
Loossemble is also a flop even though the songs are very cool and energetic
Badvilia is great ! They are a perfect girl group
Dark concept would have definitely fit meovv, everything about them screamed scary, in a fun way🤔 it’s always funny to me how these companies try to break into the western market and end up culturally appropriating black people, I don’t know if they are just ignorant or just don’t care about African Americans, I’d go with the latter cos there’s no way they have no clue that they’re appropriating cultures that are not theirs
Stop push your narrative Hybe Netizen
Y’all don’t get O.O like I do, and that’s ok I suppose 😔
BabyMonster flop? Are you drunk? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait a second... why there is mention of Gahyeon from Dreamcatcher in Meovv fragment?? WTF??
8 million views look fishy but 164719619734612973129312 million views in Babymon MV's dosen't? x'DDD Don't get me wrong, the first it does look fishy but it's insane to me no one calls out YG for what they've done with Babymon
Damn if you do, damn if you don't. As if these netizens are perfect.
BADVILLIANS DEBUT WAS 🔥
For me BABY MONSTER WILL BE A HIT IF THEY JUST DEBUTED ONLY 4 MEMBERS ON THE GROUP.
AHYEON, RAMI , ASA & CHIQUITA. JUST MY TWO CENTS.😅 THE OTHER MEMBERS WERE TALENTED BUT LACKING OF CHARM AND CHARISMA FOR ME.
yoooo!!! we have the same pick!!! 😂
yeah I feel like 7 is a lot. probably the income from blackpink was enough for yg to include more members in a group to debut
I think out of all the debuts included in this video, BADVILLIAN had the best one.
I think thier debut and pre-debut videos showcased all of the members charms and talents equally.
We got to see a little bit of everything. And I feel like thier debut really backed up just how talented they are.
Out all the groups here BADVILLIANS the only group I care to check out on a regular basis.
I only listen to 2 other groups in the video on rare occasion those groups being NMIXX and Babymonster. I like "run for roses" by NMIXX its a great song and the only song I listen to by them. I also like Batter up the original version and Like that by Babymonster. I haven't really been interested in anything meovvs put out yet.
nmixx is NOT a flop, I agree with the others tho
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IZNAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
6:18 you were talking about Meovv but suddenly you put the picture of Dreamcatcher's Gahyeon on screen as well as clips of her. before speaking about someone, please make sure you know WHO they are...
i agree.. especially babymon + o.o by nmixx .. they are the worst ! imagine if baby mon debut w drip !! or nmixx with run for roses !! they would break the internet, i swear 😮
Why are you comparing newjeans and bad villain newjeans is very popular and very known and bad villain wasn't as known then so it's kinda stupid to compare it
Yeah... Like I thought. Most Kpop stans don't know what the word "flop" means or all the other buzzwords they love to use and this channel is no different lmao. Please use google and look up the real definition of these words.
6:22 wtf dreamcatcher is doing there?😂😂😂