All we kept hearing over the years was Teddy, Teddy, Teddy and how he did everything for blackpink . But they never mentioned the people behind the scenes helping Teddy at yg. Well, let's see how he manages meovv
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv.
It's not just Blackpink that Teddy was the main producer, even most of 2ne1's discography is by Teddy for both producing and songwriting. The guy knows how to make hits but I don't think he will have full on producing with Meovv. So far, he only contributed to songwriting. The producing part is with the other TBL producers. I think right now, it's only Blackpink and Somi that he really manages the overall production and songwriting.
Also the 2NE1 and Bigbang songs Teddy produced was also with the help of the members. Like G-Dragon produced along side Teddy. In Blackpink as you said there were other producers like Yang Hyunsuk who also did the producing. Blackpink songs always sounded well produced, while Meovv song sounded outdated and something a nugu company would make.
I thought Badvillain’s debut song was a good song and also I’m tired of people comparing them to XG, they are NOT XG, nor BABYMONSTER, they are BADVILLAIN
Honestly, bad villain came in with an amazing song, amazing Choreo and just did better than other debuts. It’s just they didn’t come from a big company.
I disliked BADVILLAIN, BABYMONSTER and MEOVV for the same reason : vibe and lyrics flexing off. I dont like when a new group is trying the "Im so big and rich I shut up the haters" vibe coz girl what haters we dont know you. And speaking richness on your debut (wons and yens and dollars ??) is not a flex. Its a flex if you earned it. Maybe its me growning up, Im not the teenager target anymore, but it turns me down...
I don't have the prob with lyrics but i genuinely didnt liked batter up it was actually very mid song..sure the girls are talented as hell but that song did reached the level of expectations with hype which YG created..
I am also bored to death with songs like that, 'how rich you are and all the stuff you got and can get'. That's why I hate clik clak off baby monsters new album but batter up was nothing like that so I don't know what you're talking about. Batter up was just about being confident and badass. Even though BabyMonster has some songs I hate I like the fact that they have a variety of styles and they kill it most of the time.
And you people need to stop being so oversensitive.. People were calling taylor swift a flop even tho she sold out a massive tour this year.. Its not that deep
@@keehounwanted true i don't think so these debuts were very near to flop just mid/controversial/ overhyped debut which didn't reciprocate with the hype they created ...
Hey kookielit! In 6:15 youve used a picture and clip of Gahyeon from dreamcatcher while the member was probably GAWON from the group, who is the best vocalist.
babymonster is already rising in fame, able sold out arenas just for a fanmeet and now doing a world tour... they are clearly making a strong loyal fandom slowly, coz i cant 100% trust the charts, views and album sales since some fandom is buying bulk and streaming nonstop idk what is organic anymore
@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL blinks and monstiez already had conflict since debut 🥲 babymonster cant even chart and win on music shows which blinks can easily get for blackpink
@playamelodythateverybodyknows the only organic growth from a girl group is XG. All these girl groups from HYBE, SM, JYP, and YG are privileged and got everything handed to them on a sliver plate.
Just like most big 4 groups there will always be a space for them. And there will always be fans exaggerating their success or popularity. At this point doesn’t even matter if the debut is successful because kpop fans have shown they will literally take and praise everything given to them. Most groups have fandoms before they even debut. So it’s not the music that is selling. It’s the person/image. Because if we were to base kpop on musical creativity most would be getting a B through D-
Its crazy how sheesh is 4th most streamed kpop song and 2nd most streamed 5th gen song with being the most viewed 5th gen MV received positive reactions and went viral on social platforms? Like hello it was successful debut
They are from YG so ofc even if they make a trash ass song it will still get views so you can remove that famous one from your sentence since its all thanks too Bigbang and Blackpink
@@Eles_Denooo no just shut up and mind your business go to your fandoms that song is better and now all people are singing your don’t have taste of music
I can very minimally agree with MEOVV and bad villain but ur joking when you’re calling Babymonster and NMIXX flops. Did they have hated debuts? Yes they did, were they successful? YES YES THEY WERE. Ask me for the list of their achievements
@@Jendukielover-143 ofc so to start with NMIXX * had the most first week debut sales in kpop history until beaten by NewJeans * had the 2nd most viewed debut K-pop MV in 24 hours(currently 3rd after passed by sheesh) BABYMONSTER *fastest debut kpop mv to hit 100 million views(10.5 days) *most viewed debut K-pop in 24 hours(24.41M) *biggest first week debut album sales(460k+) that record still stands *highest 5th gen debut on billboard 200(#33) That’s some of the top of my head there are more :)
I wouldn't say flops but if we compare ITZY and NMIXX's debut (same company) you'll understand why people say they're not as successful. Rookie Itzy break the records left and right. Likewise if we compare Babymonster and Blackpink's debut...well, i don't even need to say anything about blackpink we all know how successful they are.
Maybe Babymonster debut was not that good as expected but I think they're doing far away better than other groups (I'm telling that without hate or disrespect for other groups/ it's just my pov) Ps: I'm not a big fan of kpop 😅 but BM did really impress me with their talent specifically when it comes to their vocals 🤍
Okay batter up might not be anyones cup of tea but wether u like it or not or you’ll say itwas BM debut even if it’s not objectively it is still the most viewed mv debut by any kpop act in history! And the same thing happened to their OFFICIAL debut where Ahyeon back with the group with sheesh they still hold that record as the most viewed debut mv by any kpop act in history!!!!
Babymonster Batter up debute had no promotional activities, cause Ahyeon was on hiatus, thats why YG gave them that debute/ per debute Single ( and they still ein Rookie of the year ) it was the Most watched, Most streamed debute in 2023, and the expectations were unrealistic. They managed to impress due to their individual Talents and outstanding charms…. And than In 2024 they debuted with Ahyeon and Sheesh …. And made an insane impact on global Music Plattforms and started promoting as OT7…. People can think about Sheesh what they want, but they inpressed a Lot of Music Fans all over the world🔥 You cant comparing the Babymonster debute to the other debuts in this Video…. The diff is insane high In summary…. The Most watched debute MV/s of 5th gen Batter up and Sheesh / the Most streamed 5th gen group / and The Most liked UA-cam MV in Kpop Historie ( Sheesh together with Shut down ) the Most anticipated and Most talented group with the biggest impact not only in the kpop Industrie… had a Flop debute??? If so? What Are the other in that Video 😂
Babymonster’s debut song is ‘Sheesh,’ not ‘Batter Up,’ which is regarded as a pre-debut song. The actual debut date is April 1, 2024. This is why there were no album sales or stage show presence in 2023. YG planned this in advance, since they wanted Ahyeon to be back in the group for the official debut.
Then they should give back their "Rookie of the Year"-Award they got for Batter Up, if they haven't debuted yet. It was called their debut until YG noticed that it's not going well and that the next song with Ahyeon will probably be better. Then he suddenly announced that "Batter Up" was a pre-release. Until then it was called debut.
@@maidream3639 Even if “Batter Up” was changed to a pre-debut track, it broke numerous records set by other debuted groups. The music video also shattered several records. Given its success, why should BABYMONSTER have to return the Rookie of the Year award? 🙄
I’m sorry I can’t take the BAEMON one seriously 😂sheesh may have been hated but that song performed so well. Sheesh is the fastest kpop debut in history to hit 2M likes and 100 million views(organically or not). Sheesh peaked at #2 or 3 on circle chart and became the highest charting 5th gen song on the billboard global 200 at #33 until beaten by DRIP
Bcz thier from YG ent. Yg all group all popular and have most huges views.. Other group have good song but thier views is low bcz thier comp. Is not popular realtalk only..
Ofcourse you have to include Babymonster and use them as your template front cover to obviously gain what VIEWS? Coz you know exactly that a lot were gonna watch it?? Lol Babymonster debut is a massive hit fun fact Sheesh is the most viewed MV debut in 24hrs by any kpop act in history isn’t that a hit? Garnnering 24…+ Million in 24hours! Actually they are the kpop group with the most anticipated debut not to mention their INSANE popularity even pre debut era. They are the most popular and has the most hit in this generation you know what’s crazy? They can even compete with 4th gen and even 3rd gen!!! We didn’t see kpop group like BM having this massive attention after BP!
I love Batter Up and Sheesh. Ahyeon was sick and of course YG had to delay and to launch late eventually without Ahyeon. Both songs are hugely successful breaking debut records smashing the fastest 100 million, 200 million, 300 million views in kpop debut history ever. Pepsi Thailand launched a nationwide campaign with billboards, TV, radio, trains, buses, UA-cam with Baby Monster girls on posters everywhere and also adopting Batter Up as the Pepsi jingle for the campaign. Adidas sponsored the Batter Up fits including creating a new boot just for the mv.
Why are yall acting like sheesh flopped cause it didn’t get some Korean music show awards or Korean popularity. International fame is bigger in 2024 firstly, secondly organic or not SHEESH broke the record for the fastest kpop debut to 100 million views that alone makes it successful, not to mention that it charting #33 on billboard 200 the highest for a 5th gen group, received 1.38 million likes in a day and the album sold 460k copies in the first week, a record for a debut in kpop
@@CaptainElijahAviation you dont know eh lol…those so called views are loop streams by YG for weeks in community cafe shops and no.33 in the billboards lol, yeah after that it never moved and just went down…”sheesh” is such a cringey song and title…sit down you are blowing ass balloons lol
@@ila_serah yeah that's why I said it in comparison.......forever and drip is more organic as compared to batter up and sheesh. Lol. And if you don't wanna accept that sheesh is on every ad, then it's your problem. Lol
@@Queenkingdom-nu5jo bich jus say ur jealous and go bec how are they "inorganic" if those ppl are their fans aw i myself am a blink and a bm fan lol and?? They're getting the numbers w ppl who love them
Ok maybe batter up was kinda but the rest is very good, they have vocals, visuals, all rounders, trained for many years, stage presence and mostly live stable vocals, I wanna say for me they are best of this generation. 🤍
Why are you being rude to the person, irkie? they weren't even rude when replying, get a grip, grow up and learn how to deal with different opinions! @@YuhoSiho
6:15 there is no Ga-hyeon or Ga-hyun in MEOVV. You posted Dreamcatcher's Gahyeon in both name and picture. Dreamcatcher is a completely different group from MEOVV. Did you mean Gawon from MEOVV?
why did you only consider Batter Up for BM? when they also have Sheesh where Ahyeon is included. It should be considered tbh coz that's the debut song of OT7, the original BM
@@CaptainElijahAviation yeri also trained with the red velvet but she was young and was not ready and for ahyeon she was on health haitus but the whole group debuted anyways so that is the real debut ahyeon just came back later which is her debut not the other members
@@flaxsikare_forblinkit’s different because BABYMONSTER was announced as a 7 member group, when RV debuted, thru never mentioned they were gonna be 5 members, no one even know of Yeri until they added her. It’s not the same situation
8:15 “failed to stan out” Meanwhile Babymon: Has 4 songs ranked at top 10 as most viewed Kpop MV of 2024 😂 Ofc there r ppl who don’t love them but there are MILLIONS that do
💙It's yg and their artist who made teddy special but in reality he is not , there are a lot of people who help teddy in production and yg gives it a final touch , thank God he left now yg trying new things withbabymonster and they have good songs
@@Nush-b2qI have listened to all of black pinks songs and baby monster and none of them are alike at all. I was watching reactors say that but could not find any comparison on the songs at all. The video production is similar but it’s YG so of course there will be similarities there but I don’t hear any similarities in the songs or vocals between the two groups
I was thinking the Same about Badvillian and Meovv… BV debuted with Cheap Tricks, Bad Song and no Promotion, with 40mio views but close to 0 likes??? Now their new Release ( Comeback ) is Reality…. 70.000 views After 3hours thats nothing and that reflects how the groups popularity actually is…. And people call them component to Babymonster
@ for me personally yes… it wasnt correct from me that i Said its a Bad Song…. Iam sorry. The Song tried to make use of the succesfull and popular YG formular, but failed in all aspects…. It was better than the new one, but for me not a good Song
Ahm there are US-american fans and stans that DO care, aparently. You will barely find anyone with that much free time and lack of actual interests in the rest of the west.
TLDR It's a culture not a costume. I'd say there's plenty of international fans that care about this stuff and it isn't exactly isolated. There have been a ton of examples of others "borrowing" culture from black people throughout history (jazz, slang, clothes) and not giving credit or outright making a mockery of their culture, who historically has been repressed in large and minor ways. It's also very simple things like certain hair styles that are culturally black are often not allowed for actual black people in different settings for being "inappropriate", while others experience no such repercussions. There are lot of companies that are very open about their influence and that's a good thing but sometimes it's just treated as a simple style, when it's so much more than that.
Honestly, I support both MEOVV and BABYMONSTER. They have their own styles and concepts and I honestly see potential in the two groups. And honestly, DRIP and TOXIC/BODY are really good songs
Badvillain doesnt have company stans like YG, HYBE, SM Meovv took too long in between releases, and the releases are good, but the market is saturated, it won't do Babymonster has released many songs but I personally fail to see cohesiveness in what their theme or concept is in their songs, and its true their songs sound like an adult trying to seem cool, but is cringe Nmixx is talented, not sure what the issue is here
I think there is a mistake...Gahyeon is a member of Dreamcatcher, not MEOVV lol I think Kookielit confused her with 'Gawon' (I had to google the Meovv's member because I didn't even know this group until I saw this video).
Company stan in kpop do exist the fans will accept and support anything that the company they stan debut and bash anyone who is not from that company its not music anymore its about the marketing
If you are only supporting them because of their personality then you need to get your head checked. If it’s for the music, your ears needs to get checked
Can you tell me what group did like this records before ..with debut MV ? BABYMONSTER's debut single, "Batter Up", has achieved several notable milestones: Fastest 200 million views "Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 200 million views the fastest, surpassing BLACKPINK's record. Fastest 50 million views "Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 50 million views the fastest. iTunes song charts "Batter Up" topped iTunes' song charts in 21 countries. Debut K-pop group record The music video for "Batter Up" had over 28 million views in 24 hours, setting a new record for a debut K-pop group. #edit with no public appear? No promotions just drop MV alone which group did that before ?
batter up has 22.5 million views in 24 hours, sheesh 24.4 million views in 24 hours, aespa holds most viewed debut song before which is 23m but sheesh surpassed that views
Lol not everything is about views. Actual sales are a better indication. Batter Up did not do well on the charts in SK. They only do well internationally.
@@reneeroesler9944 YG didnt promote the girls from Batter Up Era to Stuck In the middle, Didnt go in any music bank and radio shows and guestings, When Ahyeon return thats the only time YG promoted their songs and BM, and launched an album
At this point, it's a strategy of YG/TBL to make debut songs to be unlikable/empty chorus, to generate buzz and discussion aiming to create a polarizing effect, drawing attention from listeners who either love or hate the style. Such tactics can lead to increased visibility and engagement on social media platforms. Example: BABYMONSTER & MEOVV Their 1st comeback were their true colors
I think flop isnt the right word-maybe underwhelming. If the debut at least got the public interested enough to stick around, then it was successful imo. I think alot of new groups play it safe and follow trends vs establishing their own identify when it comes to styling. YG does YG things so idk why everyone didn't expect Blackpink Big Bang light from all their artists. Its not a bad thing, but the lack of individuality is a huge issue in the industry currently hence why everyone is being of accused of plagiarizes daily.
The only thing I really agree with besides the potentially inflated view count numbers is that Meovv's debut track fell kinda flat due to that repeatative aspect. Howver their new comeback song hits perfect for me so I hope it turns things around for them. I guess my final takeaway thought is all these issues discussed aren't on the performers themselves but rather their management and production teams.
Imo the market is so saturated that you really need a catchy and interesting debut AND charismatic members. Being a good vocalist is not enough, look at NMIXX and BM, even coming from a famous company, look at MEOVV. Also I feel the general public just does not forgive, like what happened to Itzy, once people start thinking they are flopping, then they will close their ears to the music. I still like NMIXX and BM music tho
@@OMG-si3wn why so defensive? Read my comment again, I never said they flopped. I don’t think NMIXX flopped either, and it’s too early to say that for MEOVV
@@xryvxctyrsyndryI don’t hate BM or any group. No idol is going to pay my bills or live my life, I wish them well but that’s it. You guys are so triggered, hope everything is ok for you as well
6:18 you were talking about Meovv but suddenly you put the picture of Dreamcatcher's Gahyeon on screen as well as clips of her. before speaking about someone, please make sure you know WHO they are...
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv's debut. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv. People tend to overshadow them to be like blackpink they forget these groups have there own identity's.
"BabyMonster" the only kpop group at F1 grand prix Singapore..Along with international artist like Kylie minogue,the corrs,One republic and Lenny Kravitz...😅😅
I don’t understand why every 5th girl group have to be compare to other groups. People do not know at some point you will have a variation of certain concepts. And every K-pop group from bts , twice , blackpink, Stray kids, ….. they had their own growth ( trying to find yoursound has group )
I thoroughly enjoyed BabyMonster's debut! I thought they slayed the dance, visual, and vocals as well as a seasoned group would have. BabyMonster was a well toned machine from day 1!
No gg is history has a debut like new jeans. New jeans with no promotion and teaser, just cam out of the shadows and took the kpop world and shock wave thru the industry. New jeans is the most successful gg within 4th and 5th gens gg, no debate
XG is going to Coachella Apirl 13 and 20, 2025, same day as Jennie Kim and Megan the Stallion! I don't think these GGs are g`oing to get there. A lot of talent in NMixx, BM, Meow, but mismanaged, unfortunately.
No worries!! Baemon is still a rookie and now they are going to world tour( officially confirmed).And please don't use the word "mismanaged", they already have a banger song ,DRIP ..a good first full album ..and YG treats them well ...
I think it's safe to say that with "Drip," Baemon has found their groove. And that's the problem with a lot of groups like Meovv. They're obviously talented, but their debut mv didn't do anything for the song, which actually plays better in the dance performance video. Sometimes you just have to wait it out with a group until they find a song that hits, so I don't think we should write any group off until they've had a few songs under their belts.
Babymonster's debut song Batter up needed work I get it. I speculate that its because of Ahyeon's departure last year. But now Ahyeon returned to Babymonster and that group redebuted with their song Sheesh. The song was incredible, its much better than Batter up. The music video got over 1 million views on the first day. Its now has 1 billion views probably, Their album copies got sold out, they performed on music shows, and their live vocals were mind blowing. They even had a live band for their last performances. Babymonster had a successful redebut.
I agree to some but not to an extent. Calling these kpop groups flop is diabolical. They are great in any way it's just that everyone has different preferences when it comes to music. Everyone can express their opinions but should keep it to themselves. Most of the mentioned kpop groups are still new and their companies probably are still testing the water. They have a lot of potential and can still be trained more. Let's wait for these girls to grow up and develop their skills in the future. For sure, we will be shock. Let's just hope that their companies do their best in keeping them in good health and mindset. I listen to Babymonster all of the time and they have a very good mixed tone of voices that could potentially be a great asset for YG. As for the other groups, I am still listening to them one by one and getting use to them. I have a lot to say regarding this issue but this is my opinion for now. Let's support these girls, we can all agree that they deserve it and they are really making the effort to show us that they have the skills and talent to make it big. ❤
I didn't even know about all of this about Badvillain before this video, they were just naturally reallly popular because they undoubtedly have one of the best dance line-up & choreo we've seen in kpop in a really long time, everyone I know was so excited about their debut and super obsessed with the songs. From the music to the choreo, they just bring something to kpop a lot of people including myself have been missing. From my pov they definitely had one of the most successful debuts of the year, especially coming from a not yet well established company.
@@selenophile-vj6nh ig it's because they don't belong to the top three labels. The song is very good, I am pretty sure they would have had a massive hit if they are from a top agency 👍
IM SORRY - MEOVV IS A FLOP? Bro, i tried to go to their pop up store but it was SOLD OUT. MEOW even reached 50 on the melon chart, and ur calling it a flop?? Im sorry i just dont get this. Also, Badvillain's debut song went viral and has like such loud cheers on music shows. I mean i get that they arent as popular as some may have expected, but u cant call a group a flop just because of that
Netizens : we want something new Companies : Here you go... Certian Netizens : eww no, that doesn't sound like everything else. Also certain netizens do nothing but compare & tare down groups, like do you even like Kpop?
All we kept hearing over the years was Teddy, Teddy, Teddy and how he did everything for blackpink . But they never mentioned the people behind the scenes helping Teddy at yg. Well, let's see how he manages meovv
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv.
Ikr, people didn’t realize that there’s many that involved producing songs at yg including Hyung Suk himself. Smh!!
It's not just Blackpink that Teddy was the main producer, even most of 2ne1's discography is by Teddy for both producing and songwriting.
The guy knows how to make hits but I don't think he will have full on producing with Meovv. So far, he only contributed to songwriting. The producing part is with the other TBL producers.
I think right now, it's only Blackpink and Somi that he really manages the overall production and songwriting.
IZNA’s debut is produced by Teddy together with BLACKLABEL producers
Also the 2NE1 and Bigbang songs Teddy produced was also with the help of the members. Like G-Dragon produced along side Teddy. In Blackpink as you said there were other producers like Yang Hyunsuk who also did the producing. Blackpink songs always sounded well produced, while Meovv song sounded outdated and something a nugu company would make.
I thought Badvillain’s debut song was a good song and also I’m tired of people comparing them to XG, they are NOT XG, nor BABYMONSTER, they are BADVILLAIN
Thank you
Honestly, bad villain came in with an amazing song, amazing Choreo and just did better than other debuts. It’s just they didn’t come from a big company.
Every K-pop girl group wanna be like XG. XG set the standard so high that none of these K-pop ggs can reach.
bad villain could NEVER be like xg
@@suiteprecure6854 bad villain doesn’t need to be XG, they’re bad villain.
I disliked BADVILLAIN, BABYMONSTER and MEOVV for the same reason : vibe and lyrics flexing off. I dont like when a new group is trying the "Im so big and rich I shut up the haters" vibe coz girl what haters we dont know you. And speaking richness on your debut (wons and yens and dollars ??) is not a flex. Its a flex if you earned it.
Maybe its me growning up, Im not the teenager target anymore, but it turns me down...
And dont get me started on how generic and repetitive these songs are, theres a reason my fav from BM is Like that and not their other title track ^^"
Same like how are you singing about being rich af when you’re in massive debt
I don't have the prob with lyrics but i genuinely didnt liked batter up it was actually very mid song..sure the girls are talented as hell but that song did reached the level of expectations with hype which YG created..
@@Akuma_Kokuchan omg fr its getting repetitive
I am also bored to death with songs like that, 'how rich you are and all the stuff you got and can get'. That's why I hate clik clak off baby monsters new album but batter up was nothing like that so I don't know what you're talking about. Batter up was just about being confident and badass. Even though BabyMonster has some songs I hate I like the fact that they have a variety of styles and they kill it most of the time.
we need to stop calling everything a flop when it's not as successful, flop means a complete failure
That's not what flop means
@@alyssadan7127 It literally is, it's just lost its mean because people overuse it as an insult
@@jorrdan. Wrong lol
@@alyssadan7127what does it mean then? since it seems like you know everything
@@Kpoplover2338 *since
Just because a song isn't getting CRAZY numbers does not mean its a flop!!
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People need to quit calling everything a flop these days. People love to throw that word, same thing with the word, woke
This comment was woke!😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
And you people need to stop being so oversensitive.. People were calling taylor swift a flop even tho she sold out a massive tour this year.. Its not that deep
@@mydilemma447taylor has nothing to do with this, quiet down.. the og commenter is right
@@keehounwanted true i don't think so these debuts were very near to flop just mid/controversial/ overhyped debut which didn't reciprocate with the hype they created ...
@@mydilemma447 Taylor Swift has nothing to do with the subject buddy.
Anyone else noticed they use a picture and clip of Dreamcatcher's Gahyun?
Yeah I’m so confused
Maybe they’re talking abt gawon
@NayeonImLover they are talking about Gawon. It was most likely a mistake, probably like an auto correct or misreading of the name?
@ mhm
I sobbed Bcz I am such a big insomnia 😭 like dreamcatcher never flopped
Hey kookielit! In 6:15 youve used a picture and clip of Gahyeon from dreamcatcher while the member was probably GAWON from the group, who is the best vocalist.
*Gahyun (with the new spelling) 🤭
right i was confused i thought she left dreamcatcher😭
babymonster is already rising in fame, able sold out arenas just for a fanmeet and now doing a world tour... they are clearly making a strong loyal fandom slowly, coz i cant 100% trust the charts, views and album sales since some fandom is buying bulk and streaming nonstop idk what is organic anymore
Before they debuted, Babymonster already had an established fanbase from BLINK and YG.
@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL blinks and monstiez already had conflict since debut 🥲 babymonster cant even chart and win on music shows which blinks can easily get for blackpink
@playamelodythateverybodyknows the only organic growth from a girl group is XG. All these girl groups from HYBE, SM, JYP, and YG are privileged and got everything handed to them on a sliver plate.
Just like most big 4 groups there will always be a space for them. And there will always be fans exaggerating their success or popularity. At this point doesn’t even matter if the debut is successful because kpop fans have shown they will literally take and praise everything given to them. Most groups have fandoms before they even debut. So it’s not the music that is selling. It’s the person/image. Because if we were to base kpop on musical creativity most would be getting a B through D-
@@XG_Ah-Wo0-wOo-WoO 1000%
Its crazy how sheesh is 4th most streamed kpop song and 2nd most streamed 5th gen song with being the most viewed 5th gen MV received positive reactions and went viral on social platforms?
Like hello it was successful debut
LOL BABYMONSTER DEBUT WAS THE FAMOUS ONE
They are from YG so ofc even if they make a trash ass song it will still get views so you can remove that famous one from your sentence since its all thanks too Bigbang and Blackpink
@@Eles_Denooo no just shut up and mind your business go to your fandoms that song is better and now all people are singing your don’t have taste of music
@@Eles_Den fr
Wdym famous? The song didn't even chart in Korea
@ korea is not important
I can very minimally agree with MEOVV and bad villain but ur joking when you’re calling Babymonster and NMIXX flops. Did they have hated debuts? Yes they did, were they successful? YES YES THEY WERE. Ask me for the list of their achievements
list of achievements [i am a monstiez and nswer]
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@@Jendukielover-143 ofc so to start with NMIXX
* had the most first week debut sales in kpop history until beaten by NewJeans
* had the 2nd most viewed debut K-pop MV in 24 hours(currently 3rd after passed by sheesh)
BABYMONSTER
*fastest debut kpop mv to hit 100 million views(10.5 days)
*most viewed debut K-pop in 24 hours(24.41M)
*biggest first week debut album sales(460k+) that record still stands
*highest 5th gen debut on billboard 200(#33)
That’s some of the top of my head there are more :)
I wouldn't say flops but if we compare ITZY and NMIXX's debut (same company) you'll understand why people say they're not as successful. Rookie Itzy break the records left and right. Likewise if we compare Babymonster and Blackpink's debut...well, i don't even need to say anything about blackpink we all know how successful they are.
Maybe Babymonster debut was not that good as expected but I think they're doing far away better than other groups (I'm telling that without hate or disrespect for other groups/ it's just my pov)
Ps: I'm not a big fan of kpop 😅 but BM did really impress me with their talent specifically when it comes to their vocals 🤍
Okay batter up might not be anyones cup of tea but wether u like it or not or you’ll say itwas BM debut even if it’s not objectively it is still the most viewed mv debut by any kpop act in history! And the same thing happened to their OFFICIAL debut where Ahyeon back with the group with sheesh they still hold that record as the most viewed debut mv by any kpop act in history!!!!
Dreamcatcher Gahyeon sudden cameo after 6 min mark
lol
Babymonster Batter up debute had no promotional activities, cause Ahyeon was on hiatus, thats why YG gave them that debute/ per debute Single ( and they still ein Rookie of the year ) it was the Most watched, Most streamed debute in 2023, and the expectations were unrealistic. They managed to impress due to their individual Talents and outstanding charms…. And than In 2024 they debuted with Ahyeon and Sheesh …. And made an insane impact on global Music Plattforms and started promoting as OT7…. People can think about Sheesh what they want, but they inpressed a Lot of Music Fans all over the world🔥
You cant comparing the Babymonster debute to the other debuts in this Video…. The diff is insane high
In summary…. The Most watched debute MV/s of 5th gen Batter up and Sheesh / the Most streamed 5th gen group / and The Most liked UA-cam MV in Kpop Historie ( Sheesh together with Shut down ) the Most anticipated and Most talented group with the biggest impact not only in the kpop Industrie… had a Flop debute??? If so? What Are the other in that Video 😂
Well, YG balance-sheet tells it was indeed a big FLOP.
Numbers don't lie especially balance-sheet numbers.
Babymonster’s debut song is ‘Sheesh,’ not ‘Batter Up,’ which is regarded as a pre-debut song. The actual debut date is April 1, 2024. This is why there were no album sales or stage show presence in 2023. YG planned this in advance, since they wanted Ahyeon to be back in the group for the official debut.
Then they should give back their "Rookie of the Year"-Award they got for Batter Up, if they haven't debuted yet. It was called their debut until YG noticed that it's not going well and that the next song with Ahyeon will probably be better. Then he suddenly announced that "Batter Up" was a pre-release. Until then it was called debut.
@@maidream3639 Well it has nothing to do with their debut date, YG wont sell any opinion for an award.
Lol no they didn't. They saw they flopped and changed course.
Another lackluster song nonetheless
@@maidream3639 Even if “Batter Up” was changed to a pre-debut track, it broke numerous records set by other debuted groups. The music video also shattered several records. Given its success, why should BABYMONSTER have to return the Rookie of the Year award? 🙄
I’m sorry I can’t take the BAEMON one seriously 😂sheesh may have been hated but that song performed so well. Sheesh is the fastest kpop debut in history to hit 2M likes and 100 million views(organically or not). Sheesh peaked at #2 or 3 on circle chart and became the highest charting 5th gen song on the billboard global 200 at #33 until beaten by DRIP
Bcz thier from YG ent. Yg all group all popular and have most huges views.. Other group have good song but thier views is low bcz thier comp. Is not popular realtalk only..
it's bcz of blackpink and ads, most of baemon's fans are/were blinks
@ and so what if baemon fans are blinks, that still makes them baemon fans. Have some dignity
Ofcourse you have to include Babymonster and use them as your template front cover to obviously gain what VIEWS? Coz you know exactly that a lot were gonna watch it?? Lol Babymonster debut is a massive hit fun fact Sheesh is the most viewed MV debut in 24hrs by any kpop act in history isn’t that a hit? Garnnering 24…+ Million in 24hours! Actually they are the kpop group with the most anticipated debut not to mention their INSANE popularity even pre debut era. They are the most popular and has the most hit in this generation you know what’s crazy? They can even compete with 4th gen and even 3rd gen!!! We didn’t see kpop group like BM having this massive attention after BP!
I love Batter Up and Sheesh. Ahyeon was sick and of course YG had to delay and to launch late eventually without Ahyeon. Both songs are hugely successful breaking debut records smashing the fastest 100 million, 200 million, 300 million views in kpop debut history ever. Pepsi Thailand launched a nationwide campaign with billboards, TV, radio, trains, buses, UA-cam with Baby Monster girls on posters everywhere and also adopting Batter Up as the Pepsi jingle for the campaign. Adidas sponsored the Batter Up fits including creating a new boot just for the mv.
I like sheesh but not batter up
Y'all I think it's Gawon not Gahyeon
Why are yall acting like sheesh flopped cause it didn’t get some Korean music show awards or Korean popularity. International fame is bigger in 2024 firstly, secondly organic or not SHEESH broke the record for the fastest kpop debut to 100 million views that alone makes it successful, not to mention that it charting #33 on billboard 200 the highest for a 5th gen group, received 1.38 million likes in a day and the album sold 460k copies in the first week, a record for a debut in kpop
REALLLL AND IT GAINED OVER 230 MILLION STREAMS ON SPOTIFY WITHIN A YEAR
@@CaptainElijahAviation you dont know eh lol…those so called views are loop streams by YG for weeks in community cafe shops and no.33 in the billboards lol, yeah after that it never moved and just went down…”sheesh” is such a cringey song and title…sit down you are blowing ass balloons lol
No hate but sheesh and batter up is on every ad.........it is not organic as much as forever and drip.
@@VasuVerma-we9tp at this point no one is organic for you. Haha
@@ila_serah yeah that's why I said it in comparison.......forever and drip is more organic as compared to batter up and sheesh. Lol. And if you don't wanna accept that sheesh is on every ad, then it's your problem. Lol
suggesting that babymonster flopped is kinda wild considering the numbers they're pulling
Unorganic numbers coming from BP fans. Spoonfed fans by BP. So unatural!
@ so is it inorganic or is it coming from bp fans
@@Queenkingdom-nu5johow are they not organic?
@@Queenkingdom-nu5jo bich jus say ur jealous and go bec how are they "inorganic" if those ppl are their fans aw i myself am a blink and a bm fan lol and?? They're getting the numbers w ppl who love them
@@Queenkingdom-nu5jo HYBE Stan need to pick and choose .....
Ok maybe batter up was kinda but the rest is very good, they have vocals, visuals, all rounders, trained for many years, stage presence and mostly live stable vocals, I wanna say for me they are best of this generation. 🤍
IMO the bad villain and O.O had a best debut song
please get your mind out of the gutter
YES
You mean NMIXX right cuz I never heard of a group called O.O lol
@@AP-fi2di The person was referring to the debut songs, badvillain's debut song was also called bad villain
@@AP-fi2diBad villain is the debut song too
Random Gahyun (Dreamcatcher) sighting 😂 6:15
BABYMONSTER's debut track (Batter Up) is good!!! Not the best but it is good!!!
I beg to differ, but I do like a lot of their stuff right afterwards
@@user-by3nd4rm6cso who told your to reply
@@YuhoSiho im gonna hold ur hand when i say this but the point of a comment section is to reply to eachother...
@@fanta8260 Yap that her opinion we didn’t not ask
Why are you being rude to the person, irkie? they weren't even rude when replying, get a grip, grow up and learn how to deal with different opinions! @@YuhoSiho
I love nmixx for being unique and BABYMONSTER but I feel NMIXX is not a Flop for me
6:15 there is no Ga-hyeon or Ga-hyun in MEOVV.
You posted Dreamcatcher's Gahyeon in both name and picture. Dreamcatcher is a completely different group from MEOVV.
Did you mean Gawon from MEOVV?
i still dont understand why yall dont like MEOVV
and its still charting
the hate is so damn forced for both meovv and babymonster
Because YG and BL companies did not accept him for the position of cleaner, he was very angry. That is the reason for the long-standing feud.🤫🤫
Frr
i like the members but i personally dl the music
People just be using the word "Flop" around without knowing the true definition...
why did you only consider Batter Up for BM? when they also have Sheesh where Ahyeon is included. It should be considered tbh coz that's the debut song of OT7, the original BM
Red velvet debuted in 2014 with 4 members and yeri joined in 2015 still they celebrated their 10th anniversary this year. You understand my point😐
Should BM have waited until Ahyeon returned before debuting with Batter Up? It might have stopped some of the negativity.
@@flaxsikare_forblinkthat’s different yeri was added later, ahyeon trained with the others and went on hiatus
@@CaptainElijahAviation yeri also trained with the red velvet but she was young and was not ready and for ahyeon she was on health haitus but the whole group debuted anyways so that is the real debut ahyeon just came back later which is her debut not the other members
@@flaxsikare_forblinkit’s different because BABYMONSTER was announced as a 7 member group, when RV debuted, thru never mentioned they were gonna be 5 members, no one even know of Yeri until they added her. It’s not the same situation
6:15-6:24 Uh...that's Gahyeon of Dreamcatcher...
8:15 “failed to stan out”
Meanwhile Babymon: Has 4 songs ranked at top 10 as most viewed Kpop MV of 2024 😂
Ofc there r ppl who don’t love them but there are MILLIONS that do
💙It's yg and their artist who made teddy special but in reality he is not , there are a lot of people who help teddy in production and yg gives it a final touch , thank God he left now yg trying new things withbabymonster and they have good songs
Babymonster songs are rejected songs by blackpink . Nothing new
@@Nush-b2q u must not know that a lot of blackpink songs were 2ne1 songs
@@Nush-b2q you should watch their vlog song camp, they are transparent on their process in making songs
@@OMG-si3wn but both groups( 2ne1 and blackpink)were produced by teddy park and babymonster is not produced by teddy . So it's obvious who copied who
@@Nush-b2qI have listened to all of black pinks songs and baby monster and none of them are alike at all. I was watching reactors say that but could not find any comparison on the songs at all. The video production is similar but it’s YG so of course there will be similarities there but I don’t hear any similarities in the songs or vocals between the two groups
Babymonster debuts might flopped but their full album Dirp. IT VERY GOOD TO ME.
The amount of idiocy said in this video is simply mind-boggling. The only thing missing was the statement that the best k-pop girl group is Illit 🤣🤣🤣
O.O is my fav. debut song in 2022
Why did KOOKIELIT stop doing daily/weekly kpop news?? I kinda miss the way they were doing their content before..
A lot of people wanted Bailey sok to debut with meovv I feel like that also affected their debut
Not Gahyun leaving Dreamcatcher to join Meovv 😭😭
Leave babymonster alone u baka
Babymonster had lots of impact when they were debuting🫡❗️❗️
Answer is simple.... Industry is saturated with so many songs
I was thinking the Same about Badvillian and Meovv… BV debuted with Cheap Tricks, Bad Song and no Promotion, with 40mio views but close to 0 likes??? Now their new Release ( Comeback ) is Reality…. 70.000 views After 3hours thats nothing and that reflects how the groups popularity actually is…. And people call them component to Babymonster
Bad song? Are you sure bout that? Think Twice before speaking 😂
@ for me personally yes… it wasnt correct from me that i Said its a Bad Song…. Iam sorry.
The Song tried to make use of the succesfull and popular YG formular, but failed in all aspects…. It was better than the new one, but for me not a good Song
@@nightpictures3509 fine, it's look better, but I personally don't think that as YG formula, it's more like Teddy? I guess? But it still different
Thats why they didnt show Meovv likes in the MV. They will possibly doing thing in views
meow sounded good honestly ngl lol
2:38 They didn't. They took something SM has been known for, gave it a name and made it the group's concept
Stop with the Culture Appropriate non sense! International Fan don't care. It's a style.
Ahm there are US-american fans and stans that DO care, aparently. You will barely find anyone with that much free time and lack of actual interests in the rest of the west.
fr like i don't care nor worry about cultural apropation?
nobody is saying idk like mexican food is now only german food
TLDR It's a culture not a costume.
I'd say there's plenty of international fans that care about this stuff and it isn't exactly isolated. There have been a ton of examples of others "borrowing" culture from black people throughout history (jazz, slang, clothes) and not giving credit or outright making a mockery of their culture, who historically has been repressed in large and minor ways. It's also very simple things like certain hair styles that are culturally black are often not allowed for actual black people in different settings for being "inappropriate", while others experience no such repercussions. There are lot of companies that are very open about their influence and that's a good thing but sometimes it's just treated as a simple style, when it's so much more than that.
Agreed!😂😂😂
BABYMONSTER is currently dominating the Kpop Universe 🔥
Lol, no. Not when aespa is the one actually dominating the kpop universe
@@BEcauseILoveYoohthey meant 5th gen, what do you think there's like a billion 5th gen groups unlike gen 4?
@@gitchigitchiyaya where does it state 5th Gen?
Yeah…kpop standarts are unfortunately too low. Yall will eat anything up.
@@diveuhhh i agree... it sucks
6:20 This clip is of Gahyeon from DREAMCATCHER, not MEOVV..... 🤦🏿♀️
Honestly, I support both MEOVV and BABYMONSTER. They have their own styles and concepts and I honestly see potential in the two groups.
And honestly, DRIP and TOXIC/BODY are really good songs
Badvillain doesnt have company stans like YG, HYBE, SM
Meovv took too long in between releases, and the releases are good, but the market is saturated, it won't do
Babymonster has released many songs but I personally fail to see cohesiveness in what their theme or concept is in their songs, and its true their songs sound like an adult trying to seem cool, but is cringe
Nmixx is talented, not sure what the issue is here
O.O was lit imo- depends on your taste tho lyrics weren’t that good but it was really good
Whatevs,blah blah blah Babymonster ate. BATTER BATTER BATTER UP🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dreamcatcher needs Justice 😂, wth why is Gahyun in the vid
Gahyeon must be holding this pain rn
Babymonster are still rising, they are the most famous ones here of the new debuts
Every song right now in kpop is being critized... We need old kpop back boombayah by bts and save me by BTS 💜
I think there is a mistake...Gahyeon is a member of Dreamcatcher, not MEOVV lol I think Kookielit confused her with 'Gawon' (I had to google the Meovv's member because I didn't even know this group until I saw this video).
And the latest BM's comeback was just firrrrre 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Badvillain used ads. Look at the likes and the comments.
And YG dosn't? Come on, they still have the record. Check yourself.
Exactly
Obviously, but so did BaeMon.
Company stan in kpop do exist the fans will accept and support anything that the company they stan debut and bash anyone who is not from that company its not music anymore its about the marketing
BabyMonster flop? Are you drunk? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think people are raising the bars high cause of BP
Because they Endorsed it like Gucci and delivered GAP
If you are only supporting them because of their personality then you need to get your head checked. If it’s for the music, your ears needs to get checked
@@oscarguo9054 why are you saying that?
they hate talented groups meovv babymonster etc. while untalented groups loves by many people are disgusting
Can you tell me what group did like this records before ..with debut MV ?
BABYMONSTER's debut single, "Batter Up", has achieved several notable milestones:
Fastest 200 million views
"Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 200 million views the fastest, surpassing BLACKPINK's record.
Fastest 50 million views
"Batter Up" became the K-pop group debut music video to reach 50 million views the fastest.
iTunes song charts
"Batter Up" topped iTunes' song charts in 21 countries.
Debut K-pop group record
The music video for "Batter Up" had over 28 million views in 24 hours, setting a new record for a debut K-pop group.
#edit with no public appear? No promotions just drop MV alone which group did that before ?
batter up has 22.5 million views in 24 hours, sheesh 24.4 million views in 24 hours, aespa holds most viewed debut song before which is 23m but sheesh surpassed that views
@@selenophile-vj6nhaespa was 21.4 million but I get the point
Lol not everything is about views. Actual sales are a better indication. Batter Up did not do well on the charts in SK. They only do well internationally.
@@reneeroesler9944 YG didnt promote the girls from Batter Up Era to Stuck In the middle, Didnt go in any music bank and radio shows and guestings, When Ahyeon return thats the only time YG promoted their songs and BM, and launched an album
@ internationally matters more Korean popularity is not the priority
The "Gahyeon" that you showed in minute six is not the "Gahyeon" from MEOVV. She's Gahyun (Gahyeon) from Dreamcatcher and her vocals are amazing too.
At this point, it's a strategy of YG/TBL to make debut songs to be unlikable/empty chorus, to generate buzz and discussion aiming to create a polarizing effect, drawing attention from listeners who either love or hate the style. Such tactics can lead to increased visibility and engagement on social media platforms. Example: BABYMONSTER & MEOVV
Their 1st comeback were their true colors
I think flop isnt the right word-maybe underwhelming. If the debut at least got the public interested enough to stick around, then it was successful imo. I think alot of new groups play it safe and follow trends vs establishing their own identify when it comes to styling. YG does YG things so idk why everyone didn't expect Blackpink Big Bang light from all their artists. Its not a bad thing, but the lack of individuality is a huge issue in the industry currently hence why everyone is being of accused of plagiarizes daily.
honestly meovv just needs to fire their stylists rn
Baby monster is not flop for me
The only thing I really agree with besides the potentially inflated view count numbers is that Meovv's debut track fell kinda flat due to that repeatative aspect. Howver their new comeback song hits perfect for me so I hope it turns things around for them. I guess my final takeaway thought is all these issues discussed aren't on the performers themselves but rather their management and production teams.
Hell is not the same without you
Imo the market is so saturated that you really need a catchy and interesting debut AND charismatic members. Being a good vocalist is not enough, look at NMIXX and BM, even coming from a famous company, look at MEOVV. Also I feel the general public just does not forgive, like what happened to Itzy, once people start thinking they are flopping, then they will close their ears to the music. I still like NMIXX and BM music tho
bm has a huge fanbase dont know how u can say they flopped, meovv and nmxx on the other hand....
@@OMG-si3wn why so defensive? Read my comment again, I never said they flopped. I don’t think NMIXX flopped either, and it’s too early to say that for MEOVV
@@Eli-nl8rhnah it’s the truth other struggling right now while bm gain everyday haha
Haters👎🏻
@@xryvxctyrsyndryI don’t hate BM or any group. No idol is going to pay my bills or live my life, I wish them well but that’s it. You guys are so triggered, hope everything is ok for you as well
6:18 you were talking about Meovv but suddenly you put the picture of Dreamcatcher's Gahyeon on screen as well as clips of her. before speaking about someone, please make sure you know WHO they are...
Teddy didn't produce for Meovv's debut. I'll say that this group meovv is very unique in there own style. As a blink fan I didn't like Babymonsters batter up or meovvs - meovv. I like there new music. I like Drip and Shessh for babymonster, I like Toxic and Body from Meovv. People tend to overshadow them to be like blackpink they forget these groups have there own identity's.
"BabyMonster" the only kpop group at F1 grand prix Singapore..Along with international artist like Kylie minogue,the corrs,One republic and Lenny Kravitz...😅😅
I mean maybe only this year but other groups have been there.
@@momintim Who?named the group...lol about your facts
@@momintim F1 grand prix last Collab with kpop happen 11 years ago..the latest is just baby monster
@@MiuMiu-x9v XG was there last year but if you don't want to count them as Kpop then sure
@@momintim even algorithm can't recommend them as kpop so nah
I don’t understand why every 5th girl group have to be compare to other groups. People do not know at some point you will have a variation of certain concepts. And every K-pop group from bts , twice , blackpink, Stray kids, ….. they had their own growth ( trying to find yoursound has group )
I thoroughly enjoyed BabyMonster's debut! I thought they slayed the dance, visual, and vocals as well as a seasoned group would have. BabyMonster was a well toned machine from day 1!
No gg is history has a debut like new jeans. New jeans with no promotion and teaser, just cam out of the shadows and took the kpop world and shock wave thru the industry. New jeans is the most successful gg within 4th and 5th gens gg, no debate
Bad Villian was view botted.
Nmixx is now already achieve alot haha 😂😂😂imaoooo for this video😂😂😂
I can't pin point a difference between all these groups wtf!!😭 They're all the same
WHAT ABOUT ILLIT THE LIP SYNCH QUEEN OF 5TH GEN?
Having ads for MV is great way of promotion I dont get why thats a problem
XG is going to Coachella Apirl 13 and 20, 2025, same day as Jennie Kim and Megan the Stallion! I don't think these GGs are g`oing to get there. A lot of talent in NMixx, BM, Meow, but mismanaged, unfortunately.
No worries!! Baemon is still a rookie and now they are going to world tour( officially confirmed).And please don't use the word "mismanaged", they already have a banger song ,DRIP ..a good first full album ..and YG treats them well ...
I still love nmixx n babymonster i think they are great group❤
From 6:15 to 6:24, why are you showing Dreamcatcher's Gahyun when you're talking about Meovv???
I think she mean GAWON
I think it's safe to say that with "Drip," Baemon has found their groove.
And that's the problem with a lot of groups like Meovv. They're obviously talented, but their debut mv didn't do anything for the song, which actually plays better in the dance performance video. Sometimes you just have to wait it out with a group until they find a song that hits, so I don't think we should write any group off until they've had a few songs under their belts.
I love Baby monster song sheesh
3:24 it’s overwhelming for people who aren’t dancers
Meovv is up and coming yall...they are so talented and beautiful
calling baemon flop. this is work of Behind The Scene payola
Babymonster's debut song Batter up needed work I get it. I speculate that its because of Ahyeon's departure last year. But now Ahyeon returned to Babymonster and that group redebuted with their song Sheesh. The song was incredible, its much better than Batter up. The music video got over 1 million views on the first day. Its now has 1 billion views probably, Their album copies got sold out, they performed on music shows, and their live vocals were mind blowing. They even had a live band for their last performances. Babymonster had a successful redebut.
24million views in just 24 hours that makes them most viewed debut song in 24 hours, right now sheesh has 313million views
Is nobody gonna talk about the last image Cheng xiao’s forehead (he is a Chinese actor btw)
I agree to some but not to an extent. Calling these kpop groups flop is diabolical. They are great in any way it's just that everyone has different preferences when it comes to music. Everyone can express their opinions but should keep it to themselves. Most of the mentioned kpop groups are still new and their companies probably are still testing the water. They have a lot of potential and can still be trained more. Let's wait for these girls to grow up and develop their skills in the future. For sure, we will be shock. Let's just hope that their companies do their best in keeping them in good health and mindset. I listen to Babymonster all of the time and they have a very good mixed tone of voices that could potentially be a great asset for YG. As for the other groups, I am still listening to them one by one and getting use to them. I have a lot to say regarding this issue but this is my opinion for now. Let's support these girls, we can all agree that they deserve it and they are really making the effort to show us that they have the skills and talent to make it big. ❤
I didn't even know about all of this about Badvillain before this video, they were just naturally reallly popular because they undoubtedly have one of the best dance line-up & choreo we've seen in kpop in a really long time, everyone I know was so excited about their debut and super obsessed with the songs. From the music to the choreo, they just bring something to kpop a lot of people including myself have been missing. From my pov they definitely had one of the most successful debuts of the year, especially coming from a not yet well established company.
FR, I felt the same 🎉❤
they have a good concept but they didnt attract fans that much that leads them in low album sales even Unis surpasses them in album sales
@@selenophile-vj6nh ig it's because they don't belong to the top three labels. The song is very good, I am pretty sure they would have had a massive hit if they are from a top agency 👍
IM SORRY - MEOVV IS A FLOP? Bro, i tried to go to their pop up store but it was SOLD OUT. MEOW even reached 50 on the melon chart, and ur calling it a flop?? Im sorry i just dont get this. Also, Badvillain's debut song went viral and has like such loud cheers on music shows. I mean i get that they arent as popular as some may have expected, but u cant call a group a flop just because of that
Netizens : we want something new
Companies : Here you go...
Certian Netizens : eww no, that doesn't sound like everything else.
Also certain netizens do nothing but compare & tare down groups, like do you even like Kpop?
Very clever
6:20 a wild Gahyun appears
Wait a second... why there is mention of Gahyeon from Dreamcatcher in Meovv fragment?? WTF??
Really shows how much research actually goes into these videos... sigh...
Dude people are easily using the word flop! 🤭 If you don't like the group stop calling them flops cuz they are doing alright it seems.
Babymonster 👀...❤They are amazing