Mark Zuckerberg: First Interview in the Metaverse | Lex Fridman Podcast
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- Mark Zuckerberg is CEO of Meta.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - Metaverse
15:27 - Quest 3
30:16 - Nature of reality
34:54 - AI in the Metaverse
51:51 - Large language models
57:49 - Future of humanity
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Transcript: lexfridman.com/mark-zuckerberg-3-transcript
0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
0:52 - Metaverse
15:27 - Quest 3
30:16 - Nature of reality
34:54 - AI in the Metaverse
51:51 - Large language models
57:49 - Future of humanity
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Having only watched the first few minutes so far: The intro is really cool
Are you considering uploading another reading list? The first one was very good and Im always looking for something else to add to my collection :)
Unless this can make me feel another person emotions while we pair up. A simple phone call or video chat will do sir.
If this feels real. I want to see my dogs ❤
Weirdos
Mark and Lex have finally revealed their true form.
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The most unrealistic thing about this VR projection is that Lex isn’t wearing a suit and tie
that comes with a dlc that you can pay with meta's shitcoin
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@@ktxed lmao!
hahahaha
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Nice to see that Lex and Mark are thriving in their natural environment
Joking/teasing is transformed into bullying when it is repeated over and over. This joke has literally been made millions of times. Pls stop.
@@MrSkmeit's just banter man it's really not that serious
@@LoneTornado No. You can say that when its being said once or twice. When you repeat it over and over til they start believing its called bullying or gaslighting.
😂 bunch of nerds
bro it's not that serious@@MrSkme
Timestamps:
1:05 Lex is astounded, thinks this is so great
1:31 Lex thinks this is incredible
1:52 Lex thinks this is the most incredible thing he's ever seen
2:08 Lex thinks this is just really incredible
2:19 Lex thinks this is truly truly incredible
2:34 Lex thinks this is really really incredible
8:16 Lex is just almost at a loss for words this is just so incredible this is truly incredible he hopes that people like watching this can get a glimpse of like how incredible it is
11:42 Lex thinks this is an incredible transition to something else
13:55 Lex's mind is blown he's literally at a loss for words cuz its very difficult to convey how incredible this is
14:13 Lex thinks this is awesome
29:54 Lex thinks this is totally a game changer he can see himself sticking with this for a long time
30:15 Lex is already forgetting that Mark is not real, like this really.. its novel
44:45 Lex is getting his mind blown and is just really excited
57:51 Lex and Mark are talking about AI but Lex is still blown away
1:03:26 For Lex this is really really exciting. He's really excited for this future
1:03:51 Lex is getting his mind blown and can't quite express/ would love to measure his heart rate
1:04:11 This really blew Lex's mind and its one of the most incredible experiences of his life
1:04:24 Lex thinks this is so, so amazing. This is so amazing
Hahaha spot on!
Lex leaning into Mark and going “and it’s not awkward to be close to you” and Mark going “no, it does. I moved you back”. Was a very funny opening
LOL...agreed. That got me, too!
"Lex, im not wearing pants"
seriously
01:19
Lex keeps blinking like he is trying not to nut ewww
This is insane. Mark looks more real than he does in real life.
Real life is a simulation. Time to face reality, bro.
Honestly, he still looks like an NPC
STOP Now 😂 Don't even 😤
I’m impressed and imagining all the possibilities including integrating metaverse technology / augmented reality with other platforms, apps and AI. We’re in for some amazing times! I embrace technology and excited for what the future holds
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I wish they would release a version of this as a VR video. I would definitely throw on my Quest to watch it that way.
Ewwww🤢🤮
Missed opportunity
I don't want to see their pores close up in VR, if I'm going to be up in someone's creepy face that close they better be pretty (no offense to Lex he's not too horrible to look at, it's Zuckerberg who creeps me out)
That would be awesome.
The future - to some degree ?
Why is this better than being on a video call with a real person than having a fake avatar of yourself?
It’s like watching two hostages tied up in a dark basement having a chat.
Especially given the fact that none of this even makes sense - the AI doesn’t know how to give us any angle other than this one? Why are they in weird rooms, if they were just chilling? Where is the background? Where are the rest of their bodies? Why doesn’t the interview ever go to first person? What do they see? Where the hell did this angle come from??? Like wat?
Imagine a podcast where you, the listener, are the third seat at the table and you can convincingly be in the same room as the two people talking.
Someone already created a app where you can ask Siri a question while you are listening to a podcast. And the person talking will answer it with an AI generated voice of them.
So building off what you are saying. You could be a third party in the conversation, but actually interject with questions about what you have just heard the podcaster say, and have them respond to you in their voice and with their facial movements. Before continuing on with the podcast as normal.
🤯🎯🤯
Now imagine when you are the third person in the room talking, when it's not even you but your image and your voice on a mission to discredit you.
Amazing to be part of the podcast is the future, so many possibilities!
Yes, you can build up your knowledge, build up your reputation, then you can get invited to be on one of the podcasts and have it stream out to millions of people. Or, you can pay someone to play the podcast game😂😂
Good to see lex in his native environment
Zuck too.
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lmao he acknowledges its gonna be a meme at 10:05
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It’s incredible that this is ACTUALLY a thing that is REALLY HAPPENING. It seems like just yesterday that my mind was blown at the fact that a virtual headset could even exist, but THIS?! This is something else.
Please don't be offended can you share why you think that? My opinion is completly opposite I won't say it cause then I will be a boomer, but I would like to know why you think that?
@@lukaloncar1999 It’s because the graphics look so realistic to real life. I still can’t really comprehend things like VR chat, let alone this new Metaverse
Omg I AGREE so much WITH what you are SAYING we are like TWINS so DEADASS
Relax it’s not that serious, ya’ll some nerds
@@JesusFollower596”yall some nerds” trynna act cool on a literal nerdy podcast. Goofy af lmao, and it will be a big deal. There’s a reason every major tech company is investing into AR and VR lil bro.
Just got the Quest 3:
• *Hand tracking* is incredible. After a while though, I go back to the controllers because there's a slight latency between my physical hand and the virtual hand - a little annoying.
• *Passthrough* nothing too spectacular on its own, but boy is it cool to see virtual objects overlayed on top of your living room (referring to the First Encounters demo here).
• *Resolution* is pretty freakin good. Sure, Meta apps are gonna look better than 3rd-party ones, but they'll soon catch up over the next couple of years.
I'm stoked for the day Meta can implement eye-tracking onto an MR headset. At that point, being able to click on things just by looking at them and then tapping your fingers AND being able to see your surrounding physical environment just... blows my mind.
Meta should host these types of interviews with 3d recordings so you could sit next to them and listen to the conversation in VR. That would be surreal.
This comment doesn't have enough TU. Great idea that I think Meta would totally be able to create even for Q2 users.
Judging by the different views, there is a high chance they actually have the data to actually build that for the case of this interview, maybe we'll get to experience that soon
Patience my child….
Damn that would be wild! I think a better use case would be live concerts or being on the set of a Michael bay movie. I remember seeing T2 in 3D and completely blown away. This would be on a whole other level.
wow! then it will REALLY feel like I'm hanging out with friends when I'm listening to a podcast
Everyone clowns on Meta but this tech is nothing short of incredible.
You’re such a doughnut ❤ but I love meta never understand why people clown them.
needs more donuts
too bad Meta ruined the brand by starting with the clown crap as if it was anywhere near this
Meta did some incredibly evil censorship the last few years. Mark's enthusiasm for tech always warms my heart though.
donut
“Sitting in a dark room which is familiar for your podcast “ lol
Right from the beginning this discussion reminded of Ghost in the Shell. Which I recently had the pleasure of watching/binging for the first time. And it was incredible. Thought-provoking and just ahead of its time.
In it, even television news anchors had virtual avatars representing them on-screen. Meetings between business men and politicians happened as one was sitting in a limo, suited up, while the other sat at some, in their underwear, but their avatar displayed to the other participant(s) of the conversation was of them fully dressed, showing up either on a separate screen that was physically in their immediate environment or it was displayed, as far as I recall, in their retinas, through a cybernetic implant, that practically projected an image across their personal field of vision, as if it was an overlay of augmented reality, which only they could see.
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32:15 On the question of what identity, the protagonist of Ghost in Shell has been using a full cyborg body since before puberty, because of an accident. She never even menstruated. And that part definitely made me think, as it also resonated with today's culture war about gender-identity and what even makes someone either what they biologically are or what they see themselves as. What is a woman? If having a vagina and menstruating doesn't make one a woman, as some proponents of trans-rights claim, then why are some people convinced that putting on a dress, make-up and a wig can make them one?
The fully cyberized people in the world of Ghost in the Shell are, as the series' name suggests, digitized individuals/souls/ghosts housed in ultimately meaningless artificial shells that could be custom-made, with any physique, genitalia, if the latter even mattered to some. Now, obviously, the main character Motoko Kusanagi is a woman, considers herself as such, is referred to as such.
There's never actually a discussion about how her brain was already digitized and uploaded into a fully cybernetic body since childhood, because of an accident, and how that affected her maturing mind. The series didn't need to delve into that, but it can definitely provoke some serious reflections on certain things. In that universe, because of the level of technology and what it allows, the difference between what could be considered a man or a woman, by whatever convention, truly matters very little; or more accurately, people are able to identify however they view themselves to be, as technology allows them to match their custom-made physical bodies and all of its function to it, tailored to their detailed preferences.
Similarly to the series Altered Carbon, which I also often bring up as an example to illustrate how it is presently impossible for people to be so cavalier about what they identify as and demand society to conform to their whims, as we are very much still limited by both biology and technology. That doesn't stop some from mentally already living in such a (presently fictional) utopia where merely being in a certain state mentally can be completely translated into being in it physically.
No one can yet claim that they are 100% what they identify as, man or woman, both or neither, because they cannot physically/biologically completely be so, no matter how they see themselves and identify as, no matter how liberated it makes them feel, no matter the dysphoria that causes it, no matter the language and terms used. Their physical reality cannot yet be made to completely match the one in their head. If we had technology that allowed people to transfer their selves into a body of their preference, and lived in that body, either since before puberty or even starting after, they could say they're a 100% what they believe they are, because they could be, with all the biological functions, and other physical, physiological characteristic that came with it. However, were not there yet.
Acknowledging that shouldn't be transphobic. It shouldn't constitute an attack, an invalidation. It is an uncomfortable, but honest reality-check.
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And about AIs in chat-rooms and video-games.
It is already making waves in Skyrim, through a downloadable companion that functions through ChatGPT. And the conversation in can cobble together from all the information/lore of the game is SCARY IMPRESSIVE. At this point, pretty much the only thing they need to work on is the still rather robotic tone of its voice. If they can somehow program it to sound more natural, they're done. In games AI could definitely offer a completely and constantly fresh experience that could revolutionize replayability for just about any genre of video-game where they could work it in.
In chat-rooms, and social platforms, I can definitely see how it could, perhaps, help people with social phobias and even disabilities it could stem from by offering them virtual connections they could use, akin to exposure therapy, to strip away their anxiety. It could also help people study, prep for tests by having it pose questions to them quizzing them, acting as a tutor.
The only real criticism I can level at it is that in a virtual room full of people, an AI would still be just that. No matter eerily human-like it could get, it would still be fake. Granted, nobody is a real person on the internet, in the sense that everyone can and does hide part of themselves behind an avatar and username. Many actually act braver and with less consideration than they would in person, which doesn't translate well into the real-world, where, if they eventually find themselves in they'll be ill-prepared to interact with other people in person. That's already happening! So, it'll have its drawbacks. Maybe it'll draw people already addicted to cyberspace, with a virtual (re)presentation of themselves, further into it.
Another series that utilizes this concept is a show called Gen:LOCK. Now, the first seasons is amazing, and it actually has a gender-fluid character whose reveal and presentation it handles very cleverly, with the technology of its world. Of course that's just a footnote. The plot itself and characterization is interesting.
Lex's smile at the beginning says it all. He's made it back home. 😄
E.T. got home!
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Cold comment 🥲
Perfect comment 🤣🤣🤣
Zuckerberg couldn't have wished for a better advertising campaign than the Lex Fridman podcast, this is next level
wonder how much lex got paid for this 1h ad. he even faked emotions so it must have been pretty tough to do
@@marcchampagnephilosopher All talk shows are advertisements, this is not some conspiracy.
@@marcchampagnephilosopher good point
@@ehhhhhhhhhh This is reductive to the point to being a strawman. There's no difference between journalist grilling a politician and a podcast host singing praises about a product?
And will the Quest 3 even be able to do with without eye tracking? I doubt it. But that's not mentioned.
It looks amazing in 2-D so the full 3-D immersive experience must feel incredible. I guess Lex's reaction gives a good clue to how mind blowing this must be.
Great episode its history in the making for sure it gave me chills when the interview started in the metaverse. This is the first thing that I have seen that has definitely crossed the uncanny valley.
Yeah hoarding that much wealth makes him great and worth idolizing.
Accomplished? He's hoarding more wealth that you can even comprehend. Do you know how much a single billion is? You could make $10,000 a day for 10,000 years and still not have as much money. No let that sink in before you start arguing in your mind or worse, justifying it. Capitalism is broken. People are playing this game and exploiting the shit out of it, along with the governments blessing. Don't turn around and blame immigrants for jobs when I'm sure Bezos makes more in an hour than all of the immigrants in America combined.
He does not need that money. It is immoral to hoard that much. If the richest 1% donated just 10% of their money-- something they would never notice- they could change the entire world.
"But that's not on them" who the fuck do you think did all the work for them to get that money? It doesn't appear out of no where. And yes our society enables the filthy rich to double their money easier than it would be for a single person to get out of poverty. We're talking double digit billions doubling. Comprehend that if you can.
Lex and Mark are the perfect AI’s to test this new technology with
See 10:05
@@geoffteehan4112what abt it?
@@johnnylego807 they pretty much joke about how they are monotone/emotionless i.e. an AI
@@GamerBoyRobbyWell stoicism is a thing
@Light_Yagami_0607 stoicism is great. I started listening to the epictetus audio book, never finished it though. Might go back to it
When Mark said “I am real.” I almost believed it!
It's amazing how advanced technology has become, and sometimes it can feel like AI is almost human-like.
@@whannabibut then he corrected himself and said "I AM a human"
The pretense to realness is the root of all evil that this tech will do to the world by masking the sheer amount of abstraction, intermediation, manipulations, frictions & deceptions.
how are you doing fellow humans?
Within 10 seconds I am hooked. Omg. I'm an original Star Trek fan at 61, and this is, without a doubt, the best interview I've ever seen! Both my younger son, 24 and I are high functioning, and this would be great for us!!! 😁😁😁
Ur so cool lol I hope you guys both get cool vr sets
What do you mean high functioning, and in what way would this be great for you both?
@@emumisthigh functioning autism presumably
@@emumistWhat do you even mean?
What device are they using. And what programme. I bought a meta quest 3 today thinking thins was possible but I don't think it is.
The most shocking part is Lex not wearing his iconic suit and tie
well he's at home environment after all
That's it! I felt that something was off but couldn't put my finger onto it.
His true colours 😂
He could always wear one in the virtual world like you would in a video game.
Infamous? That's not interchangeable with famous.
Wow! Mark somehow manages to look more real in the metaverse than real life.
right? He actually has more complexion to him than in 'reality'...lols
That's because it has produced a better 3D effect than typical video.
Too bad w/ all his attention to the visual, that he still has that non-haircut. My Mom cudda given him that cut in :15 when he was eight - including the time it wudda took to chase him down & put his skinny/ass butt in his brother’s high chair 😮 The incomprehension comes from how incredibly easy it is to fix. Maybe a center part, a La, Gen. Curtis LeMay, gently-streaked, like he actually gets out in the sun !! 😅
@@mikemccarthy1638 it's a classic haircut of Rome. He sees himself as a modern day emperor (even though he's way more powerful than that sadly).
hahahahah. This is actually true
Imagine graduating highschool and then getting a degree just to sit in a meeting with Bob, the AI. 😂😂😂
I have a Quest Pro, what app are you guys using to dot this?
This is the first time in recorded history that Lex has ever kept eye contact
Lmao true. Eye contact is overrated anyways
@@zxLoneWolf Spoken like a true beta.
betas love eye contact with other men. @@deep_fried_analysis
I think Lone Wolves are Omegas not Betas@@deep_fried_analysis
wow! that's true :)))
This should’ve been captured as 3D video so people could sit in the same room and follow the conversation in VR. How cool would that be!
100x this!
In theory, it would be trivial to record the entire meeting and actually "attend" the meeting later on within a 3D space using a VR/AR headset.
In fact, that must be exactly what happened here, as the perspective changes throughout, and I suspect this was done in post production.
agreed! missed chance really
You've just come up with a truly genius idea there my friend
It would require a football stadium sized venue! Some sort of sorting algorithm to put us in smaller rooms might be useful.
Why is this video not available as a VR video?
This is absolutely incredible. If you can manage to make the creation of these avatars easy for an average consumer, I am 100% on board. I have a quest 1, quest 2, and hopes to get the 3rd too someday!!
You will have to have a quest pro because it's the only one with face tracking
It's not if but when. It appears somewhat far-fetched at the moment but at some point this will look primitive compared to what will be possible in the future.
As a 3D arist and dev, I'm blown away by the realtime body and facial mocap and the flawless retargetting. This is bonkers.
its been around awhile. even some vtubers use it. where have you been?
@@JoJoZakavtubers use a 3d motion mapping suit and machine vision, but this uses a computer model to identify & understand the motion difference and changes virtual 3d model with those differences in frames. It will require far less hardware and bandwidth. The mocap suits cost a fortune even the less accurate inertial motion one. Meaning you just buy a meta quest pro for the price of an iPhone Max while delivering a professional quality.
what vtubers? from what ive seen those are all animated while this is hyper realistic. I am also a 3d artist and this is scary good, like ready player one good. definitely a possibility everyone will be living in this to escape reality.@@JoJoZaka
@@JoJoZaka This is nothing like 'Vtubers' ...
Isn't Zoom or standard video conferencing a better solution for something like an interview? Why is all this whizbang technology necessary for such a simple use case?
Zuckerberg has more emotional range in the Metaverse than in the real world
I was thinking the same!!
I think him rolling on mats made him more human for sure
Came to say that. 😂
He spends more time there than the real world
That technology is pretty crazy. I couldn’t tell it was an avatar at first.
When this will be available to use?
Marc actually looks way more human than normal in the metaverse
Still raprilian futures showing 😂
both of them look more human 😂😂
He's fully tuned
Human zuck is actually a projection of the metaverse one.
It's because he's in his native environment 😂
Everyone laughed at the Metaverse when Mark first showed it off. This is next level.
Still laughing, shit is goofy.
I have no mouth and I must laugh.
they still can't do legs
And you're a bot lol
It was a joke at first, the Wii cartoon graphics were not helping it at all. It is an interesting idea, and I think even if this doesn't work something like it will eventually happen. Going to the real graphics and fascial expressions is a major step up, and in the right direction.
Even though being in VR is something you have to experience in person, ive got to say that, this is probably as awesome as a 2D representation of talking with avatars in VR can be.
Its incredible!
Hi there, May I know how we can use or buy this kind of technology? Is there in the market these VR glasses already?
This is insane. It’s not a video feed. It’s a digital stream of your real-time expressions projected onto static facial scans. Wild stuff.
great so now were mopy fish
zuckerberg is like the christian bale character in christopher nolans movie prestige..he kept his face expression mechanic all his life just for this moment so the VR Immersion is perfect..it is him
I’ve had inventions for the last 9 that society is finally ready, this video is proof.
I think the dangers outweigh the advantages. The potential for impostors is actually pretty scary. No good will come from this I fear.
@@patt8223nobody cares
This interview belongs to the history books.
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@@jamesnguyen7069👎 to your “👎”
@@jamesnguyen7069also, liking your own comment is pretty depressing.
@@jack-o_lantern everything you post is liked already or else you wouldnt post it right :P
@@stokkejanraggio9091 I think you need to try again with that sentence. Lol
Edit: added “I think” since I’m not your mother and you can do as you please.
We miss you Lex! Hoping you come back to podcast soon! ✌🏼♥️
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This is superb! Information, as a noob it gets quite difficult to handle all of this and staying informed is a major cause, how do you go about this, are you a pro investor?
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How can I be part of this project I earnestly hope to build a strong financial future I'm interested to take part, who's the person behind your success?
The adviser I'm in touch with is *CAROLINA MELINA PHERSON* she works with Merrill, Pierce, Smith incorporated and interviewed on CNBC Television. You can use something else, for me she strategy works hence my result. She provides entry and exit point for the securities I focus on.
Was half expecting Mark to drop the bombshell at the end that Lex had indeed been speaking to the AI Zuckerberg the whole time. That would’ve been badass
Anyone notice that Zuckerberg's avatar seems more human than his real form?
i can honestly see Zuck or anyone in general just using this and disappearing. imagine if we neve see zuck in real life and he only ever shows himself in the metaverse
@@pcproffyhe not as pale
@@pcproffy Partway through the interview he mentioned that one of the benefits of using avatars could be getting to express emotions in ways that are more in line with what people expect to see. So I’m sure he’s fully cognizant of that!
Can't wait to avoid eye contact in the Metaverse! Probably gonna be "offline" to avoid social interaction. What a time to be alive!
outside is the original offline man
Yeah… we will get to a point where no one will want to be in the real world anymore.
Once we die out, and the new generations come in- this will be the new normal. Atlas- ready player 1, and dystopian future takes place
@@duck8280This is why I don't understand people who wanna have children. I am only around 30 years old and can't even imagine how fucked up world will be before I die let alone if I had children. Poor kids these days. They will be brainwashed with retarded shit from the very moment they are aware of themselves and even more enslaved and controlled than we ever were or could even imagine being. I always wished I grew up in 80s but now I am just glad I am not born this year lol
@@shreeeze Aaaaaa it’s definitely dystopian my friend. Everyone’s going to live in trailers with poor living conditions strapped to a headset. I like your positive outlook on gaming, but unfortunately that won’t be the case. Those don’t sound like fun mechanics, and if people don’t play- well then it’s a bad game and people will do something else.
it is the complete opposite of how we should be communicating with each other because some are not capable of have these same interactions face to face
Great interview, Lex! You both made some great points, very thought provoking.
Seeing them together I never thought anyone could be less animated than Mark Zuckerberg
It's weird to see lex and mark more emotive than they usually are.
Hopefully they stay inside
I know, right? That's what I was thinking about Mark Zuckerberg.
They are in their "natural" enviroment
It’s fake. I’m not in favor.
lex being "emotional" was the effect of the big pile of cash zuck gave him for the 1h advertisement
Feels like this podcast will become a real landmark moment.
Yup.
I think so, too. This is huge.
definitely will
What are these comments. This is crazy
ahahahaha yoooo wtfff Irobot shit
This is awesome. If the lighting in the 2 person view cast shadows in the same direction on both of your faces the immersion would be vastly improved.
going outside is old school now
definitely saving lots of bandwidth on transmitting facial expressions with this pair 😂
😂😅
lmao
Bahahahah
lol
LOL 🙃
Dear god this is amazing. 2 robots in a cyberworld, with copied real life faces pasted BACK onto them.
Lex always bringing the awesome
Should i buy the metaverse googles or wait for a sale?
One day we'll watch your reviews in a similar format?!
@@manyamaggot Wait for sale for sure. Currently needs a patch or 2
This is true @@MartyLeonXIIIGaming
you are easily amazed. like a small child
Given all the recent hype reviews of Apple Vision, you have to admit that the quality of these face renderings are impressive
Pretty unreal how fast things are moving.
I just imagine using this as a physics tutor, you can create a surrounding area with objects, which have physically accurate interactions, and demonstrate anything while being face to face with your student, regardless of the distance between you. Absolutely amazing.
That's has already been done since years, using Unreal Engine 5 for colleges, shows and other symposiums 😕
@@Spamkromite I think he meant in a virtual reality space with real time photorealistic results, which is still pretty far, if you use quixel megascans in VR is like kicking your system in the balls, that's why vr graphics looks so childish and minimalistic compared to classic videogames. And btw this video with lex and Zuckerberg is impressive but the normal map glitching while they move shows how the post "only avatar" phase will be painful and will take at least 10/15 years to be significantly improved (I'm taking about a believable vr photorealistic experience where you can actually do something instead of being a talking head).
@@Spamkromitethat is still not as intimate as this one
@@gabrielegagliardi395610/15 years is way too long, 3-5 years is more like it, especially once mainstream companies start pouring money into it, this will accelerate R&D.
Meta and Apple are making strides in this field.
The introduction of the Vision Pro, iPhones able to capture spatial video and the Apple Watch using gestures to control it, Meta’s glasses having people use AI to interact with the real world.
Once the ecosystems are built, this will take off and I really don’t think it will take more than 5 years to create.
Realtime physics simulations are still kind of janky - they work well for simple things - but errors start creeping in with more complex stuff.
This interview may have changed my mind on the Metaverse. This is pretty awesome.
The vision has always been there, just not enough proof to justify it. That's changing fast! Check out two minute papers!
don't be fooled by the zuck
same
Which is what makes this feel so much like an advertisement. How many times did Lex exclaim, "I'm blown away! So intimate! My heart is racing(weird one here)"
Ask Mark what he plans on doing with all the facial expression data he collects. Point blank, will he collect telemetry. What will he use telemetry for.
Such a fluff piece.
Yeah... buy land in the metaverse! 🤣🤡
God, Lex is a genius for bringing this to light. A true gem to the world.
Mark looks more human through his avatar than through his real face. 😅
This is historic. Speaks volumes that this historic moment happened on UA-cam rather than legacy media
I love how Mark understands people think his expression is monotone
what do you love about it?
we love to see an agi gaining self awareness lol @@tubeyou6794
@@tubeyou6794the fact that if he won the lotto he would sound like his cats died
I think he expressed himself very well here - and through an avatar!
He’s a lizard, not an idiot.
Lex: “and it doesn’t feel awkward to be really close to you”
Zuck: “no it does…”
😂😂😂😂 At least we know Mark ain’t Sus.
How do you read your notes with a visor on.
If at all possible, how do you become a great conversationalist like Mark? I can listen to him talk all day long
I think that the key is practice. Zuckerberg is the voice of Meta, so he is talking all the time (i.e., to investors, news reporters, politicians, direct reports within Meta) and having conversations all day long.
He's not perfect. He has had mess ups. To become articulate, you can start writing daily, practice thinking critically when it comes to formulating language, and have a lot of conversations.
Honestly for once I'm actually impressed, this is incredible
How is it any better than face timing
@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505 You think there's no different between talking with someone face to face and doing a video call?
@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505this is like it’s early stages, give it a couple years and imagine how you could customize the background/scenery however you like
@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505wait till skin sensors come in bro
@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505 I think seeing someones entire face and body are much different than Facetime but even then, they only had a conversation. Imagine gaming, working, etc. Much different than Facetime.
Mark looks more realistic in the Metaverse than he does in real life.
He is more real there
Hey I’m a virtual piano teacher and I’ve been waiting for a better way to demonstrate piano in my zoom lessons ; there is a delay still so when I try to clap to help keep my students to play to the beat , it doesn’t work bc there is a slight delay
this technology does not mitigate that though. As of now It seems like low latency video calls or long distance jam sessions are still infeasible with the modern internet
@@binder.u yeah it’s surprises me that it hasn’t been figured out yet.
The delivery on this promise was worth the wait.
Damn, Mark!
Lex *almost crying and close to getting a cardiac arrest*: "This really blew my mind. One of the most incredible experiences of my life, so thank you for giving that to me"
Mark *trying to make up a virtual smile*: "Glad that you got to check it out. It's always fun to talk"
that's just because he never tried an isolation tank
I would show this to any adolescent to observe Lex faculty of enthusiasm with a youthful spirit, which is the primary skill to embark on any activity, especially studying. I have observed that so many times in his previous podcast. But here it’s paroxismal experience😂 let’s call it an intellectual orgasm
Have to admit.. this is pretty freakin awesome. I can totaly picture everybody communicating like this on a daily basis.
It always starts it awesome, admittedly this is quite a feat; However as time goes on people take it too far and then the regulations ruin everything. Just being realistic here, but I could be wrong.
Most people, young and old, aren’t even comfortable FaceTiming or going on video on Zoom. Most people will still want to do real life stuff, not be in computers.
@@tylere.8436it can get so good and so awesome that ppl will be couch potatoes as a result of preferring this over real encounters and experiences.
Think about being able to have a beautiful dinner date with your partner ocean side in some unrealistic Italian restaurant. But both of you are actually in two separate apartments in Akron Ohio.
It always starts awesome…
The amount of dopamine imbalance ppl will experience when they go from putting the glasses on to taking them off and having to go clock in and do your shift so you can get off and come back and put them on. Then some industries will be able to hire and have ppl work from home through the glasses. And then now you never have to leave, unless it’s for food and bathroom. Once they bring in touch sensitive technology to it it’s game over lol
Well if Ai Replace a lots of jobs this will be a certain alternative. Just imagine Cvd-19 with this technology@@Mu5icPr0ducer
@@Mu5icPr0ducer Yes real life is better. But as an old(er) person, I would be totally up for talking with distant family members this way, and I have zero interest in facetime (and not much interest in phone calls either).
Was this done with the quests stand alone hardware or with help of a pc wirelessly?
I'm 51. I joined Facebook in 2009, and I've never seen, or heard, Mark Zuckerberg before, except a video of him speaking to Congress (I'm a Kiwi / NZ in NZ).
I appreciate Mark doing this interview.
When Lex was looking at Mark and started describing how the imperfections like freckles and variations in colour are amazing and Mark, looking at Lex replied with "yeah- wrinkles, facial asymmetry"
😂😂
Mark is separated from normality on a comical level at this point.
@@deep_fried_analysisIt's funny. But He's just super into technology and not really into ppl, I feel that. Also he's most likely autistic, we cannot express the same way regular ppl do sometimes
@@deep_fried_analysis People always want groups they want to point at and say they are better than the group, regardless of individual achievements.
This is a manifestation of insecurity
The tech in 10 years is gonna be absurd. This is genuinely incredible, and frightening
Definitely frightening because it’s happening faster than we as humans can possible grow into.
@@thephilosopher7173 don´t underestimate how flexible we are. we can live in a desert, the north pole, or even in space. we are way better than most animals when it comes to adapting to a new enviroment.
@@thephilosopher7173what do you even mean by that?? We don’t have to physically adapt to this
Online client meetings are gonna be crazy
Not really lol. It's all going to crash.
I just imagine going to a sports event from my living room. Having virtual seats and seeing and talking to real fans nearby
well this puts the Apple pro personas to shame hahahaha
They should have recorded this as something that we could experience in the meta verse. I think it'd be dope to be able to basically be sitting there with them
with my goat hanging out
that’d be kinda weird sitting in a room of people having a convo and not participating
@@johnbarreca6759 welcome to being an introvert
@@mason6538lmfao
That would be great. This is smart however. It’s accessible to everyone. Most people out there probably can’t afford all the vr needs. But yes. This is amazing and the future is scary yet intriguing. Be well everyone out there.
30:16 it makes me laugh every time Mark has to assure us that he is a real person.
The matrix nailed this by showing everyone inside the matrix as their beautiful avatar.
he got insecure for a sec lmao
YEAH that's lol
😂😂😂
Using this technology to communicate with a dead loved ones avatar would be amazing.
Feel like I’m watching Mark go from a billionaire to a trillionaire
You said it take your own advice and buy shares
which is why I bought stock in Meta right after watching this video
@@DoctorPrepperMD Atleast wait until a sell off ahhaha
Buying when it's already priced into the stock lol
bots bots, let's invest in tech that will make us lazier and locked in a fake universe. All the niceties he claims we can do without. But no we saw it on TV so we must have... You're all like little mice eating up the treats. Strange times.
My engineering side is thrilled, but my philosophical side is in despair
which headset are they wearing?
Who did the intro? It’s awesome! Did meta put that together for him?
I had no idea the 3D was this advanced, this is actually insane.
Keep in mind they spent a lot of money to make this happen. So it’s definitely there, it just takes a while before it’s commercialized
3D in general is far far far more advanced then you see it here.
This is like a hologram
The 3D. Haha
Yes, the evolution of 3D technology in recent years has been truly amazing. With advances in computer hardware, software, and graphics processing power, 3D technology has become incredibly immersive and realistic.
This is incredible. How has the Metaverse come this far in such a short time? It feels like yesterday we were memeing about the cartoon avatars. Simply amazing.
It's A.I
The cartoon avatars were always a temp thing. PS4 had better graphics in 2016.
It is only with hindsight do we see that it was always their plan to fail forward
Codec avatars were already shown YEARS ago. Those who are interested in VR tech knew everything just from following progress on social media, but they were drowned out by ignorant masses screaming with memes. It's always like this with new tech - first it's mocked and then "surprise Pikachu".
@nhymz just like the fight between him and musk. All you're supposedly fighting for is which digital space you prefer. They still have you in the mindest of supporting it regardless of who you choose.
Lex’s reaction to this VR atmosphere is akin to our grandparents looking blown away by the first time they saw a real computer
Lex Friedman avatar has more facial expressions than the real one
I have to be honest, this is the first time in all those metaverse bullshit years that I am actually 'wow...this might actually be good'
But this is just Video call on steroids, what the metaverse is actually is just a giant business opportunity
this is really fuckin cool
Has no one seen Star Wars (or half of the futuristic sci-fi movies in the last century)?
Yeah this could be cool (and terrifying) if done right.
it's been like 2 years, you must be like 15 haha
They just basically made hologram phone calls like star wars
Zuck is a genius, everyone was doubting meta but this is the future
Yeah I honestly have came to a more positive opinion about him and meta after listening to him on this and JRE
😂 duuuurrrr
lets fucking gooo
he wants to steal all your biometric data
@@Johnny_Savagelol bro if you are worried about that shit than don't own a phone like wtf 😂
I really think that this could be developed in a really helpful and healthy way. I instantly just had 3 ideas:
1) put magnetic shielding to stop electromagnetic waves from going through the eyes or brain by redirecting it.
2) Make the glasses cause your eyes to focus on objects far away so it tricks the brain and eyes into relaxing eye muscles periodically because we are designed to look closer and then suddenly far away, naturally.
3) Make a tall hologram machine using gas or smoke or steam in a 3d glass container so you can see it 5ft away from you on your couch.
I have an inventor mindset to help people but I need tutoring and help learning math, electronics, &programming. Can someone mentor me for dreams of helping people and being happy with family and wealthy?
Lex, Why did you delete the William McGaskill interview podcast?
Amazing to see two actual AI's talking to each other in human form
It is not AI
srs?@@camaycama7479
@@camaycama7479 /r wooosh
Thats the joke...@@camaycama7479
It's close@@camaycama7479
This is one of the dopest things I’ve ever seen! I’m huge into technology and this makes me so excited! Good job, Mark & team 👏🏼
@lexfridman
I was touched by your statement about the changing nature of reality and about consciousness (around 1:00:37). It's this kind of questions that come to my mind as well when wearing a VR headset. And anyone investigating the reality of nature should not miss out on Analytical Idealism that states that consciousness is ultimately fundamental (e.g. The Idea of the World by Bernardo Kastrup).
I can’t wait for all the fighting game VS screens becoming thumbnails or memed in the future
Mark and Lex are looking more and more lifelike. Great work, engineering team!
I think it would be fantastic to watch a podcast or interview content like this actually in VR, as if youre watching a live on stage interview, or being a third person at the table.
Yes!
3rd person at the table would be incredible
I wonder if they will ever release the VR version? I would pay for that
For sure!
There's a few vr180 interview type of content. Carl Mclarty does a lot of man-on-the-street kinda interviews in vr180, which you can access via youtube vr or deovr. I only got a couple up on my page; but point is, it can be hit or miss. If the interview is engaging, yeah it's cool. But it's hard to sit through one for longer than 5-6 min unless things change up a lot cause in VR, you're LOCKED IN to that viewing environment. Which is why I hope that XR/Mixed Reality viewing will help introduce casual viewing, so ppl can look at their phone, grab a drink, etc, just like how one does when watching a youtube video at home.
Even after Lex revealed it was CGI, I still couldn't wrap my head around it because the subtle facial animations are soo realistic
It's still not fooling levels of realistic, you can tell it's off right away, but it's getting close!
Lex looks better than Mark, IMHO.
It is funny to me how Lex is in awe and Mark is just like, ehh, needs work. haha.