Sneaking into a ‘Vintage’ RC Car Race with a Modern 2wd Buggy!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2023
- This is the NEW Tamiya BBX RC Buggy. It's pretty rare at the moment due to shortages. Even though it's a Modern RC Car, I snuck it into a Vintage RC buggy Race!
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"That's Gav coming behind me in his cougar" Cant believe he can race at the same time.....
Great Tip about the setting of the slipper clutch!
No matter what place, it's still the best looking car in the field.
😎🤘
I was never a Tamiya fan. Been in the hobby almost 37 years, built my first Tamiya this year, a BBX. If they keep putting out cars like this, I’ll be a huge fan. I love that buggy.
Back in the 90’s We all used foams on carpet. With traction juice too!!
Smelled like spearmint!
I love that you guys have a vintage buggy class to participate in. I have done my fair share of tossing the vintage iron around a carpet off-road track. I have found that the Losi XX chassis is one of the best on carpet. If you can source one, I highly recommend it!
Hopefully have a BBX finally incoming. Cool to see you and Kev just simply enjoying yourselves and having a laugh
Club racing with good people is so much fun! Glad to see you out with the others having a blast 🍻
Heck yes. Tune and go again.
Might even see about popping across to watch !
Great tip on that slipper set up Phil 🙌🏻
No probs… although it was taught to me by a pro
Aways great when Phil and Kev get together.
Cheers dude 👌
Great Vid.. i didnt realize the BBX would respond so well to those simple mods you performed. Im impressed. I see this buggy and its potential thru new eyes now and am considering buying one.
LOVE the videos with you and Kev... Keep em coming...Great car by the by....
very cool! Nice race track and the vintage class looks fun
CA glued the sidewall on the front tires to reduce traction roll. The further out from the bead you go the will help you reduce and tune the tracion roll issue out. Good Stuff! Good luck!
It was really neat watching this , looks like you had a lot of fun
It was awesome 🤘
I really enjoyed this one, it’s great too when you and Kev jostle 👍👍👍
That thing looks awesome
Looks like a lot of fun.
The Smell in that Hall after all that Curry 🤣💨
Hahahaha
I really appreciate what you are doing here. I've been around (non competetive) RC cars and planes hobbies for a LONG time now... to me, a minium level of realism matters most, i.e. a proper driver figure and design compared to full size. A modern 'cab forward' buggy does absolutely nothing for me, it resembles nought in the real world, and dare I say it, the style is ugly. Just my opinion and I respect others too. But retro rules OK 🙂
Thanks mate. I always try to get a driver figure if I can
Horses for courses my friend. Scale realism is awesome in a crawler or a show car. Hell last weekend at our club bash a guy brought out a 64 impala with working hydraulics and full leather interior. But I personally like speed and power. Even my tamiya tt02 is chopped up and modified to be fast. It hurt to chop the bumpers off a gt4 mustang body.
Bottom line. Run what ya brung. If you're having fun you're doing it right. If you aren't having fun then you're the only person in the world who drives an RC car the "wrong way"
Cab forward is hideous to me too.
"A modern 'cab forward' buggy does absolutely nothing for me, *it resembles nought in the real world* "
Someone's never heard of a prerunner buggy. Granted, cab-forward bodies still don't look _quite_ like real prerunner buggies, but then again "modern" cab-rearward bodies don't actually look that much like full-size sand rails or arena buggies either.
I do agree with you on _some_ cab forward bodies, though. For me the body lines have to be right. Tekno's are as ugly as a buttock on a baboon, but the Losi 8ight 2.0's stock body had a more sweeping, half-teardrop shaped cab design that actually looks quite nice and fit in with the center-cab 1/8th scale buggies they ran alongside, rather than the chunky, angular designs we see today. Still, the whole reason for cab-forward has _NEVER_ been looks. High-bite tracks demand lots of downforce up front for better steering, and the positioning of the windshield actually makes a significant impact on that. If we were to see a switch back to looser track surfaces then maybe cab-rearward designs would make a comeback. I don't see that happening, though, because modern 1/10th scale racing drivers are obsessed with having THE BEST traction, they don't want to have to learn to race on loam or dusty hard pack.
Lovely stuff mate. Will defo get one of those when they are more freely available. Just treated myself to a 2010 Holiday Buggy as its the very first car i saw as a kid that got me wanting Tamiya RC. Never owned one as i picked up the Sand Scorcher when i was 17. Another item off the bucket list and a nice little birthday gift. Keep em coming mate
Tamiya’s RC10. Looks great.
Fantastic racing there, Phil! 😃
You may have slept behind, but it's always a learning opportunity! Next time this buggy is going to do much better!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Cheers mate. Yeah, was a fun evening, even though I didn’t quite get up there with the leaders
My 1987 Nikko dictator is still my favourite car to drive ..after adding grub screws to the 2 motors..I custom made 18650 2p4s battery's with original plug..replaced the bushings in the gboxes with bearings and filled the gboxes with cv joint grease and the diffs with nulon assembly grease with PTFE (20 year old tube U can't get now) and I installed a fan on the top with a grille positive pressure case and a custom cut oiled sponge between the fan and body shell ...the air vents out over the batterys ...I custom spun stiff stainless steel springs and with the motors being inside the wheel base the handling and grip is next level .this thing pre dates oil struts .
Great!
Your Video reminded me that I still have an old Tamyia Car from somwhere in the eighties lying around - I drove it maybe only 5 times.
As I am flying modell airplanes I nearly forgot about my old RC-car - but i will have a look at it!
I just had a look at it, it is a "Sonic Fighter" from Tamyia.
Thank you for that very inspiring video!
That was cool. Regular guys with regular RC equipment having fun. I get tired of watching UA-camrs with unlimited funds building 50 hp cars. It’s just so far from my own reality. Thanks guys enjoy the video.
Thank you. I try to keep it real, and although I do sometimes spend a fair bit, I am aware that not everyone is as lucky as me.
Need to get my kyosho beetle involved with carpet racing. Great video
0:42 wow that buggy is sic!
Can you imagine a modified grasshopper around there! It would be quality content!
I have one and I feel the steering is not good enough with those long thin arms going to the servo
@@channonsmith3157 yes so do I, and I completely agree, I was just wondering whether if it was modified with maybe wider front arms and improved steering angle and cg also better suspension would help, that it may be able to trundle around in reasonable times!
Would certainly be interesting to see!
@@TomleyRC yes, it could be called: "Sneaking into a 'modern' RC car race with a Vintage 2wd buggy!" Or: "modifying a useless buggy to beat the pros!" I spend too much time thinking of titles 😂
If I remember correctly, the grasshopper didn't have independent suspension at the rear! Would be a nightmare to race that! 😅
Nice video! Looks like a lot of fun! I need to dig out my old Tamiya stuff I have a super champ and a sand scorcher but they both need work 👍
2 awesome buggies 👌
love the content tomley keep up the great content
It did look good going round! Definitely worth playing with.
Yes 👍
Awesome! Carpet racing is way harder than it looks, if they were my times, I would say they were very consistent!
Keep on Rockin Tom Tom!!!
Cheers dude
Great video! I also have a copperhead 10 but with a castle 5700kv, and it goes great, i reckon with a bit of programming on the esc you should definitely be able to get that 7700kv motor flying! 😁🛫
I swear every week I dont go is when you go to the club xD Good racing Phil!
I was never really interested in racing on a track. But racing vintage RCs with brushed electronics sounds interesting. I need to see if any track near me does vintag offroad racing.
Video skills got way better at 11 minutes.
Haha yes… although he wasn’t trying to also drive 😅
@@TomleyRC just poking fun Sir. Your videos are awesome.
Awesome 👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️
Fun vid as always with you and Talbot cocking about. I was very interested to see how the BBX went racing. It goes well and looks really cool doing it. This may be controversial, but put some Tamiya TRF aeration dampers on it. I've put them on a couple of different cars and they do make a difference.
Yeah, we have fun haha. I’ll take a look at the dampers
If you put a wing on the back and stiffen the front springs a bit it will jump without the nose dive👍 and the gear diff will help with understeer. TA06 steel gear diff fits.👍
Stiffer front springs and some steering expo (~30%)will help that buggy immensely.
Kev got some great shots
Nice! I had the original Kyosho ultima when I was a kid. My favorite racing is with less grip than the high grip you had. I used to have foam tires for indoor racing but wonder what a race with mandatory duct tape on the tires would be like. I suspect it would be like racing f1 in the rain and might be a lot of fun controlling the throttle.
Great camera man (that dude that picked up the camera that fell off) i hope you payed him a meal, well worth the footage!
Haha… he got some good shots
Yeah, Kevin did a great job!
Ah, the classic "You put me off" line.. Works every time.. 😂
The one thing about not coming first is you can always get better. 😀
The trailing arms holdup with the modifications you did to them more trailing arms.
You could add a little weight to the front chassis with either stick on weights or the factory ones. And turn your steering back to a lower number and add a touch of expo to make it softer on smaller inputs, but really yank it when you need it.
Plus try toe in on the front, it wont shift weight so fast from side to side.. softer rears will help but a little stiffer front will keep the roll down.
Go again. Go big.
I feel like there is a lot of "series" potential for this. Sneaking a non-conventional buggy into races vs modern is cool af. Kinda the same vibe as Anakin and his pod-racer.
That bbx is just incredible!! Really really want one.
Also I feel a bromance coming on with you and Kevin.
What you gna do when he leaves 😂
possibly a stupid question, does the slipper clutch just make it so the motor can slip somewhere between the motor and the wheels? almost like a torque setting on a cordless drill?
I’m suprised by how well that went round a track. Looked fun to drive too. If you can sort out the grip roll I’m sure you’ll beat Gavin 😂
Looked like a solid contender. Go again for sure👍
Yes, definitely
“THE TOMLEY VLOG!!”😂😂
Gear up 2t, one single rate higher up front, and 10wt higher shock oil in the rear
Yes, goo voor it.
Your funny love your vids
You can run thicker oil. And lay the shocks out. To reduce chassis roll
Goddamit I actually remember that cover of RCMC... RIP #OldGit
I was waiting for this video since I saw you on rckicks video.
Yes… I’ve had it ready for ages. Just had to stick it in a queue
Thats what i want to get into.
I like you Tony good job on a man you made it look like a true legendary buggy 💯🔧👍👍👍👍👍🏎️🇬🇧🇺🇲
😎🤘
What camera did you use to record the first person pov on the vehicle.
that weird guy took your cam tom get him 😂😂😂😂
Nobody talks trash better than Phil at these races 😄
Haha… I try my best 😅
It looks great, and it’s a scale looking buggy… but aerodynamically it’s at a disadvantage to the other cars in the field, the Race Buggy Style of the Cougar et al with Smooth lines and a big spoiler do wonders for performance… It would be ace to see it in a field of scale and frame buggys.
Was Gavin there too?! Cool!
All of the above.
I used to have an RC when I was growing up in the 90's. Back then Losi's were the best, Traxxas was OK and Tamiya's were low quality cheap RC's. I just started watching UA-cam videos on RC cars a few weeks ago and I'm surprised to see so many people with Tamiya's. TBH, they don't look much better than they used to. They have made some improvements over the years but it seems like there are still much better options from other companies.
Yes, Tamiya for the most part are still producing the same products they were 30yrs ago
@@TomleyRC Thanks for the reply. They seem to be quite popular on UA-cam. Is there something that I am missing?
The thing reminds me of the Losi JRX-2. Front A arms rear trailing arms.
Give me a gold tub RC10 with Stealth Transmission!
If I was running a track, I wouldn't really allow this in a true vintage class. Where I would allow it would be a "scale 2WD buggy" class, which would include some vintage models designed to look like full-size racing buggies but also more modern vehicles like the Losi XXX-SCB, ARRMA Raider, Integy i10Baja, ProLine Pro2 Buggy, Kyosho Ultima DB, etc. basically anything that looks like a real full-size RWD racing buggy or sand rail. Honestly, I feel like these types of vehicles didn't take off because they didn't perform to the standards of a modern 2WD buggy class at the time, but also couldn't run in vintage.
Love my origiinal Fav buddy don’t use it to often as I want to keep as many origional parts as poss. Found some new old stock tyres so apart from esc and motor it’s all vintage.
Awesome buggies 👌
@@TomleyRC yea even got the orgional brittle plastic steering knuckles lol and a 30+ year old
Servo. Still fun on the sand though
I mean tamiya are based on 70's technology so i'd argue it's perfectly well vintage from that perspective.
The skinny front tyres look so much better than the beefy ones from the stock setup. Never like the thick front tyres on the bbx. This is truly vintage looking now
Put a 3s lipo and stiffin the shocks up and you got this
That trans looks like it’s the exact size and dimensions of a scx10 transmission. You should see if the gears fit in there.
I like the BBX though where I love a 1//5th perrol buggy is the same price so maybe I will wait or give it a miss.
I think, I need this car in my collection, I never really paid any attention to it
cool as blank
Tomley what servo should I use on my tt02 that’s is in the USA for cheap
Rather weird to see Kev just posted up no camera no controller just standing there like he isn’t anything special. I would love to see more and more collab videos with you two. Both your energy’s and drive are insane. Cheers!!
Maybe the original front tires are allow you to not traction role as much cuz it would understeer some
Wish we had more tracks and closer id love to race
This one is just under 2hrs away from me. So not really local
Need a gear diff too.... Do they make one for it?
Can you please tell me what equipment you use to speed test??
Do they have a gear diff for this thing?
Would the same slipper setup trick work for a 4wd system (slash 4wd) as well.
yes that's one of the simplest ways to set up a slipper, you can also delete it entirely with a spool and just ensure your always using appropriate gearing too, but that's your call.
What onboard camera is that, the onboard footage came out great.
Also kev cam was very good, should use a camera person for future events
It’s a Insta360 Go2
What wheels did you use?
Ther is so much traction. Is that bad or good?
Hello, I have the first version of the Kyosho Graupner kart 10 NR 4939. NIB for sale. I'm going to put it on the big auction house today. I'm curious what comes out.
i was honestly expecting a tamiya body on a b6.4
I leave the springs and try oil first
With the slipper is there a way to essentially lock out the ball diff by maybe using thicker grease.
I think most people swap it out to a normal geared diff
@@TomleyRC it looks like the Tamiya 54471 Steel Gear Differential Unit Rear for the Ta06 is compatible. Do you think that’s a better upgrade than the slipper? Would you also need the slipper if you do the geared diff? I know you can play with thicker weight diff fluid with a gear diff.
How much is the slipper clutch in US dollars? I swear there was a justments in the front to change things with shims.
About $75 if you convert how much I paid
I'd swap the motor and ESC out of the Associated if it were me.