Should've posted this in the other videos but my favorite quotes of the series so far are: "I'm 41 and don't want to learn Wraith micro" and "Take that Bishop fans" xD haha (As another old timer, I hear you on new muscle memory)
Amazing tournament! Thank you for covering it and giving us the expert break down of everything going on, us SC noobs are big fans, but little knowledge XD
Watching all those marine shots missing sunks uphill, I realized how weird it is that you can miss buildings uphill but not under dark swarm. I never really thought about it until now. It makes sense that buildings are too big to miss under dark swarm, but then, aren't they also too big to miss uphill?
Hmm I'll argue that building are too big horizontally to miss under dark swarm, but not necessarily too big vertically to always hit from lower ground.
6:12 I have been playing this game for YEARS and never knew that specific detail. Lol 😅 i knew it would reveal the map where you click, but just not how big.
Bishop is not the fav player. Anyone that plays Terran is not worthy to be my fav. player. My fav. player is SNOW that eats Artosis for breakfast with Scout, while playing a harder and inferior race vs the unbalanced Terran.
Very pleased with Miso's liberal use of Sunks, but! I think it's a mistake to think sunks maintain their defensive value throughout the game. Static D is really there as something bulky, to buy time for player to respond to sudden attacks. To either: rally defenders, cut off reinforcements, counter attack, or give up base and prepare for next battle/expand elsewhere. The 2 armor for sunks really hold well before upgrades. So seeing so many sunks made is really great, but Terran +1 armor, makes a +50% hp breakpoint when relying only on sunk damage. They can kill an unarmored marine with 2 synchronized hits, so when used later, they must have units to assist finishing off terran units. At that point, it's probably more useful to simcity with hatches, and morphing larva to delay terran push. But making so many sunks was actually hurting Ultra movement. Ultras have an optimal formation to engage bioballs, it's the same as marines engaging a lurker stack, crossing T of bioball then collapsing down on it. So being able to flow out of a choke from multiple paths of a simcity is the best way to future plan sim city choke defense for crazy zerg, *_the OPPOSITE of how you'd simcity if using lurkers for defense._*
What does Terran do if Zerg went spore into mass hydra/ling and Terran spent all that money on 2 starport. Also can we download these replays anywhere?
My understanding is that mass hydra ling without defilers would lack kill pressure as they get shredded by marine medic, even the smaller amounts they would have from going 2 starport. Zerg in ZvT basically *has* to get something done with muta harass or terran will simply outscale, the spore colonies can prevent the wraiths from harassing their own lines but they won't help muta's fight the wraiths in terran's base which is what they really need to do. As such most zerg players just build more muta's against wraith.
My brain turns numb when I hear Arabian Fire Thrower disband voice line in Stronghold Crusader. I don't think there is any other sound that does anything like that to me. It is weird.
@@karpai5427 oh you want heart attack inducing sounds? well Total Annihilation general "under attack" sound and "commander damaged" sound ... have fun xD
Terran makes drops and it's a masterful strategy. Zerg makes drops and it's a dastardly cheese. Terran attacks fast, OMG AMAZING TIMING ATTACK. Zerg attacks fast, wow cheese fast pool noob.
I always pronounced BishOp but Bish as how you would say "bitch" mildly, so it would sound like "bish OP" for so long until rather recently through Artosis I hear it pronounced like that (I would always skip through the matches and mostly skip through the introductions 😅)
@@ObeliskM yup and the brood war expansion had to make units that hard counter them for each race just to have a chance. And larvae spawned way faster back then
@@urconway corsairs and turrets are the only viable counter (and sometimes even that is not enough against mass mutas, so protoss is forced to build dark archons, while terran is forced to build valkyries), and the fact that they have to be built in every game makes it obvious how overpowered mutas are.
The zerg did not seem that high level tbh. Building the 4th hatch right before the spire finished made his min/gas spending off. He was floating at least 600 gas 7 mins onward. He could have started 1/1 and the lurker upgrade before spire and had the same number of muttas.
Is Mech too expensive to use against Zerg? Is it too easily destroyed by Hydralisk defiler? Why is it rare... Oh, right. Mutalisks. I hate this unit. It should be Medium size at least.
Basically both players showed very poor unit contro. Check how Bishop losing vessels idle and how irradiated utlralisks he retreat them to die hurting the healthy ones instead of kill some marines within....
Ok am I crazy or was this just a terrible game from Miso? How is a pro floating 1500 gas and 1000 minerals with no units? It was so early into the game too. Shouldn’t he just have had macro hatches and zerglings??
The games between these two have been so nutty. Very cool. So glad you've been casting this league.
7:32 Arty was about to break character with that dancing marine
Arty the streamer is about to merge with Arty the caster.
uhem, excuse me
@@Picaroon9
''I'm a dude casting a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!''
Blocking the spoiler blockers
fr
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Edit: Oh wow, I was just trolling, but it turned out true. Really cool, I was hoping --------- would win so we could get some more amazing games.
Is this new comment meta?
Bishop? A true Artosis fan knows that Scan is who we are waiting for. We have to hear the "Tu tu tu tu tu tu tu." Sound of Scan vocalizing his APM.
TRUE jajajaja
“ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta”
Tu tu tu tu tu tu in deed brotha . Hope Scan win
Im at this moment of my life more of an artosis fan than anything elses in the world xd
Bishop wraith micro is better than flash's
Really enjoy when you get into the details of the specific builds. Thanks
Should've posted this in the other videos but my favorite quotes of the series so far are:
"I'm 41 and don't want to learn Wraith micro" and
"Take that Bishop fans" xD haha
(As another old timer, I hear you on new muscle memory)
That's how u do it, c'mon BishOp, Smash him with a brutal come back.🤟🏻
im rooting for him
Thank you for casting these games Artosis! I'm coming from SC2 and learning SCBW/RM from watching your videos and watching games! Highly enjoying it!!
Loving the tournament casts! Getting to see pros going all out has a very different feel compared to ladder.
Arty single-handedly carrying the Crazy Zerg name. I love it
Amazing tournament! Thank you for covering it and giving us the expert break down of everything going on, us SC noobs are big fans, but little knowledge XD
I’ve been turned into an actual cnsl addict
Your title made me think Bishop lost. What a game!
How about that! Bishop is my favourite player. You know me so well Artosis :D
Gaaahhh why do we have to wait until tomorrow for the next game!!
See SEE SEE!
LET'S GOOO BISHOP COMEBACK
Best channel. CNSL is the coolest
Hooray Bishop’s wraith rush worked!
moving in 6 groups of MnM into zerg without zerg having dark swarm is such a good feeling haha
Zerg forgets to build the invincible cloud unit
Thanks for bring these amazing games!
Watching all those marine shots missing sunks uphill, I realized how weird it is that you can miss buildings uphill but not under dark swarm. I never really thought about it until now. It makes sense that buildings are too big to miss under dark swarm, but then, aren't they also too big to miss uphill?
Marines have unlimited ammo too!
Hmm I'll argue that building are too big horizontally to miss under dark swarm, but not necessarily too big vertically to always hit from lower ground.
Comment for Arty’s toilet time
Lol
Lets go baby!
carefuller isnt a word, Artosis
Another great game!
6:12
I have been playing this game for YEARS and never knew that specific detail. Lol 😅 i knew it would reveal the map where you click, but just not how big.
Great match!
I need Tasteless to explain what Crazy Zerg is for me because I'm just not sure I know what it is yet.
Bishop is not the fav player. Anyone that plays Terran is not worthy to be my fav. player. My fav. player is SNOW that eats Artosis for breakfast with Scout, while playing a harder and inferior race vs the unbalanced Terran.
I think in the last game bishop was too aggressive with his attacks and should have build more bases. He just had 1-2 mining bases
Very pleased with Miso's liberal use of Sunks, but! I think it's a mistake to think sunks maintain their defensive value throughout the game. Static D is really there as something bulky, to buy time for player to respond to sudden attacks. To either: rally defenders, cut off reinforcements, counter attack, or give up base and prepare for next battle/expand elsewhere. The 2 armor for sunks really hold well before upgrades. So seeing so many sunks made is really great, but Terran +1 armor, makes a +50% hp breakpoint when relying only on sunk damage. They can kill an unarmored marine with 2 synchronized hits, so when used later, they must have units to assist finishing off terran units. At that point, it's probably more useful to simcity with hatches, and morphing larva to delay terran push. But making so many sunks was actually hurting Ultra movement.
Ultras have an optimal formation to engage bioballs, it's the same as marines engaging a lurker stack, crossing T of bioball then collapsing down on it. So being able to flow out of a choke from multiple paths of a simcity is the best way to future plan sim city choke defense for crazy zerg, *_the OPPOSITE of how you'd simcity if using lurkers for defense._*
Seeing crazy Zerg get crushed by bio is my fetish
artosisuuuuu~~ ❤❤❤
I thought the ultra lisk was an unintentional spoiler, usually if Zerg gets to ultras it means they win! Glad it wasn’t 🎉 go bish0p
Let's see if Bishop survives to go for another try!
What does Terran do if Zerg went spore into mass hydra/ling and Terran spent all that money on 2 starport. Also can we download these replays anywhere?
My understanding is that mass hydra ling without defilers would lack kill pressure as they get shredded by marine medic, even the smaller amounts they would have from going 2 starport. Zerg in ZvT basically *has* to get something done with muta harass or terran will simply outscale, the spore colonies can prevent the wraiths from harassing their own lines but they won't help muta's fight the wraiths in terran's base which is what they really need to do. As such most zerg players just build more muta's against wraith.
Marine supremacy!
Was sad how bishop burned up last match
despite not playing SC, also favoring protoss whenever i hear the destructionsound of a sciencevessel it hurts for some reason :/
My brain turns numb when I hear Arabian Fire Thrower disband voice line in Stronghold Crusader.
I don't think there is any other sound that does anything like that to me. It is weird.
@@karpai5427 oh you want heart attack inducing sounds?
well Total Annihilation general "under attack" sound and "commander damaged" sound ... have fun xD
2:22 Look at Miso's side of the minimap and tell me what you see... 😂
awesome
So terran going beyond they fears and attacking did actually pay off.
Ultratoilisks
Blocking the spoiler blocker blockers
Early TerranJAM
I clicked on this video right away (:
It´s a shame that those wraith strats aren´t working out but marines are still pretty good.
ggs
Hate playing vs crazy zerg ughh
Neat to see the bio win.
Terran makes drops and it's a masterful strategy. Zerg makes drops and it's a dastardly cheese. Terran attacks fast, OMG AMAZING TIMING ATTACK. Zerg attacks fast, wow cheese fast pool noob.
I always pronounced BishOp but Bish as how you would say "bitch" mildly, so it would sound like "bish OP" for so long until rather recently through Artosis I hear it pronounced like that
(I would always skip through the matches and mostly skip through the introductions 😅)
Miso should have flown up instead of to the right to exit bishops base. Also not be so greedy and build more sunkens.
I play crazy protoss
:)
Mutualisk is the best unit in the game and is under costed
Except for probes, lings, and defilers, probably.
Yeah, its mere threat alone forces terran to build turrets and protoss to build corsairs in every single game.
@@ObeliskM yup and the brood war expansion had to make units that hard counter them for each race just to have a chance. And larvae spawned way faster back then
@@ObeliskM ran and toss both have multiple options. ZvZ is where mutas are truly problematic.
@@urconway corsairs and turrets are the only viable counter (and sometimes even that is not enough against mass mutas, so protoss is forced to build dark archons, while terran is forced to build valkyries), and the fact that they have to be built in every game makes it obvious how overpowered mutas are.
Spoilers
Lets go TERRAN!! !!!
2BASE T > 2BASE Z who fking new!?!?!
The zerg did not seem that high level tbh. Building the 4th hatch right before the spire finished made his min/gas spending off. He was floating at least 600 gas 7 mins onward. He could have started 1/1 and the lurker upgrade before spire and had the same number of muttas.
It sad another crazy zerg build fail
Zerg is OP now dark swarm too strong
Is Mech too expensive to use against Zerg?
Is it too easily destroyed by Hydralisk defiler?
Why is it rare...
Oh, right. Mutalisks. I hate this unit. It should be Medium size at least.
Mutas are pretty good against mech but it's really queens that are the counter.
Fake news, not crazy, mostly like lost motivation zerg.
Basically both players showed very poor unit contro. Check how Bishop losing vessels idle and how irradiated utlralisks he retreat them to die hurting the healthy ones instead of kill some marines within....
Ok am I crazy or was this just a terrible game from Miso? How is a pro floating 1500 gas and 1000 minerals with no units? It was so early into the game too. Shouldn’t he just have had macro hatches and zerglings??