The passion artosis has for this game and his ability to point out exciting nuances that would normally be missed is why he's the greatest commentator of all time
@@jasonsoliva6678 What? Nonsense. Corsairs can't shoot hatches or drones dude. It's not like they get to choose what to prioritize, they can only shoot the overlords. Unless you mean why he didn't build spores? That was just a confluence of timing. His third was delayed and he had to build a ton of zerglings to defend the zealots and was ALSO slowed down by the initial overlord kills. He did not have the resources to continue his build and get spores. In no way was he intentionally using overlords as bait.
Arty you are such a great commentator for this game, I was watching some of your old blizzcon commentaries , it’s great back then but you have also evolved ! Thanks for the casts!
9:15 i love this. Recently watching FPvods i've seen the trend continue towards "if you scout no hydra bust before you finish your corsair, go second stargate" This however, is not that. instead, the scrappiness of the early game resulted in motive being able to increment out this number of corsairs out of one stargate instead. The idea is similar however. zealot speed, and stay on the attack with zealot/corsair and a DT mixed in here and there, and control the sky and the game. Starting to think that zerg simply should go 3 hatch hydra and at least go for the kill of the wall. this zealot/corsair attack seems to be a game that's very good for protoss. Zerg probably prefers to play the 3 hatch, den, 7 hydras, range, and kill the wall, back off, drone up and lair. That situation has been found to be fairly equalish, but zerg maintains the initiative and prevents protoss from committing to this many corsairs, and the game continues.
@@IslandUsurper Scouts have had a few cool uses in recent years but for most of the life of StarCraft they've been a non-unit Best use i've seen for them has been one game where i believe mini made a few on eclipse to deal with a marine/tank/turret push trying to punish him for going 2 base carrier, was a cool game. they're just so expensive, though.
Motive is quickly becoming my favorite Protoss player, and he absolutely seems like he fits the Artosis protoss rant, supermodel, probably spends all day at the beach, everyone likes him, tons of friends, wins at the stock market, comes back and beats T and Z. How many tank tops do you think he owns?
You mentioned Squirtle and that gave me the nostalgic reminder that I have been watching Tastosis for a very long time. I remember watching that GSL finals between MVP vs Squirtle live on GOMTV where, "The effect of an Archon toilet is game ending." 😁
Do you know how much more work that would require for Arty to do that? It's more of an absurd request than you realize. Also, screw that. Arty's BW casting is much better when he isn't being hamstrung by Tasteless. If he paired up with Nyoken or Gypsy, THAT would be cool. Just my opinion of course.
I think Motive cleared the scourge swarm with psi storms? It's hard to tell exactly what was going on with just the minimap but you can see the red clusters just get smashed.
The CNSL season has been so good. Going to be sad when it’s finally over, but these games have been very good. Some of the best games I’ve seen this year have been in cnsl.
I dont understand why zergs dont like spores to protect their overlord, overload is 100 each, how much you can loss by make 2-3 spores under the overlords
I think it's because they're kinda expensive, 125 minerals, slow to make, and zerg in general doesn't get the same worker count as Terran or protoss, and of course you end up losing workers to make buildings it slows down your economy even more? Usually hydras under the overlords + scourge seem to repel corsairs in the early mid game but I think Miso was too aggressive and motive's micro was just too good. Not to mention he was still macroing like crazy during all that.
Every CNSL match has been incredible and unique. Starcraft really is a game of infinite richness. That was an extremely uncomfortable position for zerg.
It doesn't, the unit has the be detected first, otherwise that would be broken as hell. And mutalisks don't do "splash" damage per se (like say, a siege mode siege tank shot, spider mine hits, archon, valkyrie, & corsair's attacks), it just bounces off to two more targets with reduced damage per bounce.
if toss mind control Overlords, does the Overlord act as detection like Observer would? feel like that could be a thing mind control whatever overlords get left over. storm away baby
Hey you wanted comments on the video quality so here goes one: yesterday's was poor quality and today is HD (at least for me), so if your testing different settings stick to what you have today. Matches and casting top-notch as always. Keep up the good work!
Are you sure about that? My internet is unstable, so YT reduces the resolution automatically and I have to manually set it to max. Maybe you're having the same issue.
Hmm 20 goons + storm + zealots. Let’s attack this with 10 hydra and 3 lurker. After so many loses. Not making 4-th hatch, and trying to hold protoss on the ramp. That was stupid zerg and his loss was deserved.
As opposed to every zerg ever doing 3 hatch hydra every single game against protoss and frequently winning, lol. Miso played really well but the goal is to win, and motive played better.
Every CNSL match has been incredible and unique. Starcraft really is a game of infinite richness. That was an extremely uncomfortable position for zerg.
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Yay my favorite match up, BTS back up crew member vs middle-aged Korean businessman
The winner did a great job keeping the sky clear
Hey, barracks is also a BTS back up member too 😅
... lol
The passion artosis has for this game and his ability to point out exciting nuances that would normally be missed is why he's the greatest commentator of all time
It looks like it becomes harder for zerg to win, if it loses 30 overlord.
HAHA
@@jasonsoliva6678 What? Nonsense. Corsairs can't shoot hatches or drones dude. It's not like they get to choose what to prioritize, they can only shoot the overlords. Unless you mean why he didn't build spores? That was just a confluence of timing. His third was delayed and he had to build a ton of zerglings to defend the zealots and was ALSO slowed down by the initial overlord kills. He did not have the resources to continue his build and get spores. In no way was he intentionally using overlords as bait.
Arty you are such a great commentator for this game, I was watching some of your old blizzcon commentaries , it’s great back then but you have also evolved ! Thanks for the casts!
Tyvm!
The corsair dominating the airspace was absolutely brutal to watch. Miso being perpetually supply-blocked must have been infuriating
This tournament has been an absolute blast. Thanks Arty!
"Who needs spores anyway?" Miso probably
Dig up and cast that Squirtle run for us, please and thanks!
I think artosis revisiting old casts or star craft history is always enjoyable
Tried looking up squirtle and didn’t find it. Though didn’t want to spend an hour looking for it. Somewhere in the GomTV 2012 GSL season 2 timeline.
Definitely of the best games of the CNSL so far!
watch the first game of this series, it's insane
9:15 i love this. Recently watching FPvods i've seen the trend continue towards "if you scout no hydra bust before you finish your corsair, go second stargate" This however, is not that. instead, the scrappiness of the early game resulted in motive being able to increment out this number of corsairs out of one stargate instead. The idea is similar however. zealot speed, and stay on the attack with zealot/corsair and a DT mixed in here and there, and control the sky and the game.
Starting to think that zerg simply should go 3 hatch hydra and at least go for the kill of the wall. this zealot/corsair attack seems to be a game that's very good for protoss. Zerg probably prefers to play the 3 hatch, den, 7 hydras, range, and kill the wall, back off, drone up and lair. That situation has been found to be fairly equalish, but zerg maintains the initiative and prevents protoss from committing to this many corsairs, and the game continues.
It’s been a long time since I’ve played, and I was never good at it, but are scouts just completely obsolete? I never see anyone make them.
@@IslandUsurper Scouts have had a few cool uses in recent years but for most of the life of StarCraft they've been a non-unit Best use i've seen for them has been one game where i believe mini made a few on eclipse to deal with a marine/tank/turret push trying to punish him for going 2 base carrier, was a cool game. they're just so expensive, though.
Motive is quickly becoming my favorite Protoss player, and he absolutely seems like he fits the Artosis protoss rant, supermodel, probably spends all day at the beach, everyone likes him, tons of friends, wins at the stock market, comes back and beats T and Z. How many tank tops do you think he owns?
LOL
If there is ever a show match you do RT please get more games from these two. Both players are playing out of their minds. Great series!
You mentioned Squirtle and that gave me the nostalgic reminder that I have been watching Tastosis for a very long time.
I remember watching that GSL finals between MVP vs Squirtle live on GOMTV where, "The effect of an Archon toilet is game ending." 😁
Artosis: "its Not bad, seriously is not bad"
Misu immediately loses 80 supply worth in Overlords.
:D (11:40)
Damn! The way Motive played this game was incredible. Great cast Arty!
I do NOT remember the squirtal games but I DO remember Artosis losing his mind about it.
Can we have guest co-commentator tasteless for the finals?
This!!
Do you know how much more work that would require for Arty to do that? It's more of an absurd request than you realize.
Also, screw that. Arty's BW casting is much better when he isn't being hamstrung by Tasteless. If he paired up with Nyoken or Gypsy, THAT would be cool. Just my opinion of course.
Saiyansc I also like cast.
I remember that Squirtle series from back in the day. Classic part of Starcraft history.
them killer Corsairs...!!
Ate the OL for breakfes
great game and awesome series, one of the top pvz i've seen in a long time
I think Motive cleared the scourge swarm with psi storms? It's hard to tell exactly what was going on with just the minimap but you can see the red clusters just get smashed.
do you have the time stamp?
@@EllipticalReasoning around 11:06 you can look at the minimap and start seeing it. i realize a lot is going on in these games.
The CNSL season has been so good. Going to be sad when it’s finally over, but these games have been very good. Some of the best games I’ve seen this year have been in cnsl.
Can someone link the squirtle(?) games that he is talking about at 5 minute mark?
thanks buddy! love the casts
Your passion for the game comes through from minute 1
I dont understand why zergs dont like spores to protect their overlord, overload is 100 each, how much you can loss by make 2-3 spores under the overlords
I think it's because they're kinda expensive, 125 minerals, slow to make, and zerg in general doesn't get the same worker count as Terran or protoss, and of course you end up losing workers to make buildings it slows down your economy even more? Usually hydras under the overlords + scourge seem to repel corsairs in the early mid game but I think Miso was too aggressive and motive's micro was just too good. Not to mention he was still macroing like crazy during all that.
Every CNSL match has been incredible and unique. Starcraft really is a game of infinite richness. That was an extremely uncomfortable position for zerg.
I wonder if the muta-splash would hit a dark templar if they hit a visible unit next to it (without any detection present), does anybody know?
It doesn't, the unit has the be detected first, otherwise that would be broken as hell. And mutalisks don't do "splash" damage per se (like say, a siege mode siege tank shot, spider mine hits, archon, valkyrie, & corsair's attacks), it just bounces off to two more targets with reduced damage per bounce.
@@reishiki8682 Thank you!
sorry for maybe a stupid question, but i'm not joking - what do you mean by "meta" in such cases? my engish or my scbw knowledge fails me.
As a Protoss player, this 2 games are very enjoyable to watch. I’m sorry for our Zerg boi.
Miso stalled there...he got his overlord count back up but then seemed to have no real plan. Drops? Mutas? Defilers?
Great game!! Corsairs doing some hard work!!!
What a game, really takes me back. Great casting also, thanks!
ill remember mvp vs squirtle until i die
the multitasking is insane from motive
I think I Remeber the Squirtle, becouse Squirtle name reminded me of pokemon, I dont remeber the matches exactly tho ...
THis was sickest pvz i have seen in long time. Dear god, the slaughter was painful to watch.
3 back to back obs snipes Arty :)
if toss mind control Overlords, does the Overlord act as detection like Observer would? feel like that could be a thing mind control whatever overlords get left over. storm away baby
Miso had no control over his army.😅
Motive's player photo is zesty
What a good breakfast~
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Some bw to watch while getting a morning workout? Sounds good to me!
Adun Toridas!
Hey you wanted comments on the video quality so here goes one: yesterday's was poor quality and today is HD (at least for me), so if your testing different settings stick to what you have today. Matches and casting top-notch as always. Keep up the good work!
Are you sure about that?
My internet is unstable, so YT reduces the resolution automatically and I have to manually set it to max. Maybe you're having the same issue.
@@avinotion yup, I'm positive, even now when I watch both I can see the difference.
Cnsl❤❤
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 🔥
Yeeet yeeet
Beautiful )
Nice Game!
corsair go fweep fweep fweep
Wow good game. Hope the zerg can come back.
1 minute ago? yes!
May this message find you well as you recline upon your Throne of Porcelain, during your Kingly Constitutional.
nice 1
artosis is the new gay
Hmm 20 goons + storm + zealots. Let’s attack this with 10 hydra and 3 lurker. After so many loses. Not making 4-th hatch, and trying to hold protoss on the ramp. That was stupid zerg and his loss was deserved.
Eat all his food lol
gg
You and your "goons shoot slowly, so firing uphill is worse for them." They lose half their dmg, just like everything else.
I hate cannon rushes so gay
As opposed to every zerg ever doing 3 hatch hydra every single game against protoss and frequently winning, lol. Miso played really well but the goal is to win, and motive played better.
Every CNSL match has been incredible and unique. Starcraft really is a game of infinite richness. That was an extremely uncomfortable position for zerg.