Keep all original parts add a delivery truck's hydrologic lift gate to lift the toys onto the water tank and add the full length rack from a car hauler with grind hard in LEDs down the whole side of it, the ramps from that should reach ground level, but I'd put splitters in the water tank and have half water, quarter gas, quarter diesel with the old hand crank pumps on the side to keep it classic looking and put the fan art on the inside garage door on the front definitely with LED backlighting
Uumm no Mr. Pyro. I really feel like this is something no one should ever have to say bit here it is; Keep away from fire trucks if they make you want to set a fire!
Just register it as an RV. you guys should really join the group crawler haulers on Facebook. Update: There many many guys on craer haulers that convert busses and even semitrucks into personal vehicles. They are very knowledgeable about how to skirt around the need for a CDL.
This is what I would like to see as well. I don't know how common this particular model is but I would like it to be mechanically improved but esthetically preserved. It just looks to cool to mess with imo
The drivetrain from a 5-ton military 4x4 truck would put this into MOAB territory. You can just find a car hauling open trailer and weld it up over the truck (like a vehicle transport rig).
Man, I love that era ... one of my favorite things is driving by the old New Meadows, Idaho fire department and seeing the old fire truck that says "Village of Meadows" ... I wouldn't change a thing ... you have enough vehicles. It might come in handy later this summer during fire season ... Love the cab forward, like the old vw bus, and the gauges are similar too ... how is your diesel converted 4x4 vanagon running? Trip to Baja? Fill that truck with water, and put down a bunch of 10 mil visqueen, and make the biggest slip and slide down a big grass hill in the middle of nowhere ... before a rave ... wet ... could be fun ...
What also would be pretty cool is turn the back into some kind of “camper” type thing and make it more off road and go camping or something like that in it
@dylan zrim as long as the speedometer worked for most of its life, it's almost definitely legit. Fire trucks see very low mileage, especially in rural volunteer departments.
There’s a list of things that I was expecting the next ghpc video to be and them buying a fire truck was definitely not on the list😂😂 absolutely awesome machine thought I can’t wait to see the plans you guys have for it!!!
Congrats on owning such an iconic vehicle guys! I grew up on a farm that had a 1930's extension ladder truck just sitting there for years. It had a rear steering station at the back to swing the extremely long ladder section around turns. It also had a hand crank gasoline engine with pistons the size of paint cans in it which got about 3 gallons to the mile. I played on that truck a lot as a kid. Never got the urge to become a fireman. Looking forward to seeing you guys work on this truck and what it turns into. I'm sure you''ll find lots of solid scrap metal on that truck to use in other projects. Good luck!
The whole truck is awesome. The idea of leaving the water tank on it and dividing it in threes would be awesome so you could have gas for the toys diesel for the truck and water for truck or track and then build a car hauler on top all the way down and put the toys above cab and car or truck above water tank and have a lift to drive the vehicles on and lift up to the top of the truck . It word be amazing looking . Wish I could by the motor and transmission from y’all.. those transmissions are really tuff my dad had one in his four-wheel-drive never gave us any trouble LOL
Learned to drive a firetruck on an '84 LaFrance. You hit both starters at the same time. Riding the bucket in the 3/4 cab got nice and toasty in the summer and if it was an EMS run you got a nice diamond plate burn tattoo. Good times!! Try and make a toy hauler that still looks like the firetruck to keep the tradition. Good job fellas!!!
Please don't de-firetruck it! Please! Make it into a toy hauler for the small stuff, sure.. but keep all of the cool fire truck stuff on the outside! Having an oldschool firetruck is super cool and you can buy a flatbed anywhere. Flatbeds are everywhere, but a cool Not-A-Plumbing-Company of cool dudes driving a Not-A-Firetruck to deploy a tiny fleet of Not-A-Powerwheels would be fucking sick! This is awesome and I'm super excited for you guys! Great get!
That fire truck is badass and your idea of a car hauler is a sweet idea...I would have done the same thing...make sure you build a place for your tool to go ...put some drawers in like a tool box has somewhere in it...Thank you for all you great videos and knowledge...because of you I bought a welder and started working with metal about 6 months ago
Keep the cab, toss the pump bed. put a rollback on it. Definitely the coolest toy hauler ever. Bonus points for adding a front drive axle as well (maybe some front load Rockwells?) I like the diesel swap idea.
Years ago I drove and also worked on sometime a very similar 1969 American La France fire truck. Double clutching that beast was a workout. If you start messing with the electrical system, be aware that it might be a positive ground system. The one I drove had a beast of diesel in it.
Dump the tank, find a big airstream trailer, cut the trailer and fit it over the cab and frame, make an enclosed hauler out of it. Maybe sleeping bunk over the cab?
My department had a 1959 LaFrance with the V-12, 5 speed. Manual steering, manual brakes and a non-synchro transmission. That mean double clutching. 750 GPM pump with 750 gallon tank. Open cab (windshield wipers on the inside too) with a homemade tarp too. Great truck.
You got to do toy hauler \ rv build . Maybe a overland tent above the cab with off-road light bars and outdoor speakers with radio maybe a pellet grill trailer hit for grilling and a big side awning
I saw this for sale and almost bought it. Great buy! Have fun and make something cool. American LaFrance likely used a Ford or Dodge engine and frame rather than building their own, they just did the "firetruck" part. At least that's how it was for a '48 american LaFrance firetruck I was looking at in Cda a few years back.
That's crazy how utility that thing is. I was a volunteer in upstate N.Y., close enough to NYC that we had a fat enough budget that we had the Cadillac of fire trucks, even the oldest trucks were skk nice inside, you knew you were in a fire truck. Our trucks were all parade trucks with tons of chrome and airbrush and gold leaf. We had automatic and diesel since the 60s.
the hardest part of running is when your pumping off a fire hydrant you collapse the main line by pull more pressure than the line flows I was on a volunteer FD in Granger WY 25 years ago town had two bars one church that was a bar and a post office my boss was the fire chief so if something came up during work hours I was going anyways the end of that hose is no joke but not take anything away from the guys running the truck they got that all day it's just when you put people on the end of that line I'd say three minimum I like watching these guy's too much and there all too damn skinny for it lol but I know they have the heart make up for it
My neighboring department has one of these LaFrance's with the Detroit diesel in it...pretty neat rig. Having turned wrenches on numerous fire apparatus over the years, I've always shied away from them as custom build platforms because they're SOOO full of "stuff." Every corner is filled with lines, pumps, and valves. However...you guys always seem to work magic with unconventional builds...so I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
Hey, if you guys are removing the pump and tank from that truck you should see if Matt from Demolition Ranch wants to buy it. He’s trying to build a fire truck
The 6-71 was real popular for marine use up till a couple of decades ago. Since then it has gotten harder and harder to find parts for. the technology of that engine dates back to before WW2 with the 4-49s. They scream nice but are real fuel hogs and tough to fix lately. I'd look for the big brother of the Cummins 12 valve engine- simple, parts are still around , hard to kill- very hard to kill as they were the engine of choice for military freight type trucks.
@@hotpuppy1 I'm not a regular follower of BGM, but I haven't seen him working on any fire equipment. He has commented about how much more time he has to spend acquiring general gasket sets. Much of what he does get for older GMC engines comes form non factory sources and is more expensive. You don't rebuild any of the GMC 2 strokes by boring out he bore - you replace the the cylinder bore by exchange. The new bore sleeve has ports machined into it that must be turned correctly for the engine to breathe correctly- GMC doesn't and hasn't made any big numbers of new bores in 20 plus years. BGM also tries to avoid total rebuilds- he has outsourced much of it- that costs him or more likely the client serious money- choosing a later model 4 stroke diesel will be more powerful, have better mileage and be more practical over it's life. The two stroke diesel is not a good engine at all from the emissions standpoint. There are other diesel oriented sites that go at this by using much more current and easily available later model engine as opposed to throwing a "Screaming 6-71" in it. Evan is talking about 1000 mile trips with a few people riding in that Fire Truck; it has a cab heater- the outside jump seats are just out of the wind. No AC. No electric windows, either, riding in the cab of a truck in front of the radiator that cools this "Screaming 6-71" and it already has a big noise problem in the cab. Take the old 6 cyl Continental monster out, take the water pump and gear out, install the new engine/trans under the floor of the hose storage platform, move the radiator back and reduct it, close the back of the now empty back half and install some seating for four and AC, power steering, if the budget is there, air bag the suspension- big trucks were using air bagged suspensions long before cars- and it would be a killer "ramp truck" riding in style vehicle. But that's my opinion; This is GHPCs Fire Truck, and Ethan is the main wizard- this is Ethan's and I think he's "got this"! Oh, and I'd paint i red- a brighter red , with pearls of metallics galore in it! But Red! The GHPC logo in gold leaf on the door, budget permitting, that would be cool.
100% should keep all the aesthetics of the fire truck, patina n all. Then the back opens up and inside are all the powerwheels with a base ontop strong enough to take the Tacoma or what ever, it could be so epic!!! Love that idea Ethan 💡
I honestly thought he was going to say 15k , which doesn't sound unreasonable. Think about how much you'd have to spend to get an engine that cool obscure and powerful.
@@youknowwho7176 it is I just got a 98 scab 4x4 stepside 4.6 with only 112k for 3 grand. However the 1980-1996 is my all time favorite f150 but I think barret jackson got a hold of those and did them like they did fox body.
We know you are going to make it a toy carrier, but keep as much of the silhouette of the Fire Truck as you can. It's got to look like a fire engine! BTW I love the sound of that thing (although I agree that it's loud--no sound deadening anywhere). Reminds me of the school bus from when I was kid, when they had those 1960's to 70's buses still in service with the super long throw gear shifts and you felt each shift from the driver jerking you from corner to corner.
Awesome, cant wait to see it finished. And its strange how everything is reminding me that our garage/workshop/home burned down 4 days ago. Keep safe everyone.
My dad saw this on marketplace a couple weeks ago and showed it to me, it would make a super dope welding rig but I can’t wait to see what you guys do to it
This engine is so massive 😯 If it was mine, I'll do something like the vanagon. Swap a diesel engine with smooth transmission to create a really drivable and capable hauler. Keep the front as it is, and a bed with firetruck items (the exterior pump panel must be kept!) and go everywhere with it!
This has gotten me so freaking excited, I can’t wait to see what this ends up as. Obviously it needs to be a toy carrier. Having a little like fold out bunk bed sleeper cab would be really cool to. Be able to take it on road trips to meet ups and stuff like that, especially if you converted to a more fuel efficient diesel
This truck looks sick cannot wait to see what you do with it, I agree strip most but the cab and have it so you can load 2 vehicles one partly on the cab like smaller car loaders. Great addition to the ghpc vehicle collection!!
Evan- the engine likely has two sets of spark plugs as well as two starters. This was about reliablilty in any jam. To change out the motor you are looking for a school bus from a rural district- they have enough engine most times to pull the weight up to highway speeds and most built since 1995 or so have automatic transmissions, often Allison made. The sound problem can be helped by using dyna mat or similar liberally. As well as losing the water tank, there is a water pump, driven off the main engine- it weighs 1500 or more pounds- if you aren't into fighting fires, it can go too. Get in touch with the Reliance Fire Museum in Estes Colorado- they can help you with identifying just what you have and may want the pump, etc for one of their restorations. Keep the dual battery set up- in the cold country you live in it could be a life saver!be real careful operating the siren and lights off your property- the Sheriff and the local FD and Rescue people will get all out of joint! ALF had a V12 at one time- but it wasn't a Rolls Royce engine; it was a flathead, I think built from the patterns of the Pierce Arrow engine of the late 30s. It had the dual ignition and starters like yours.When you re engine it, make sure you have a clear notion of what the rear axle ratio is- lots of fire apparatus was ordered with very high ratios so they had lots of power to pull through tough places, but those suck for milage!
I saw that thing on Market place, and was too late. I wanted to make a hauler out of it as well. At least I'll get to see you guy's build it. That thing is so sweet, can't wait to see the build. I was going to use it to haul my Samurai to Moab this spring, and my Porsche to races, so we had almost the exact same plans. Looking forward to the build. Pretty cool to know you guy's are close by.
Would love to see it converted to a toy carrier but please keep the cab design
Keep all original parts add a delivery truck's hydrologic lift gate to lift the toys onto the water tank and add the full length rack from a car hauler with grind hard in LEDs down the whole side of it, the ramps from that should reach ground level, but I'd put splitters in the water tank and have half water, quarter gas, quarter diesel with the old hand crank pumps on the side to keep it classic looking and put the fan art on the inside garage door on the front definitely with LED backlighting
@dylan zrim yes
2nd this. Cab is amazing
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"Can you imagine a jet engined firetruck?"
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Jay Leno: Where is it? I'll outbid you all!
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I love the short answer “because it’s awesome” dude this build is gonna be next level! I’m excited
Are you tj hunt's less talented brother? Or just as talented but not as famous?
I feel like when you own a firetruck the urge to "set things on fire" rises.
I am very much hoping this will be in an upcoming episode
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ofcourse
Uumm no Mr. Pyro. I really feel like this is something no one should ever have to say bit here it is; Keep away from fire trucks if they make you want to set a fire!
I've been wanting to turn one into a toy hauler or RV.
That is the dream!
Or do both 🤟😉
But it needs a straight pipe
@@GrindHardPlumbingCo please keep it manual
@@GrindHardPlumbingCo toy haler lame.. Build a zombie apocalypse rv that can haul an atv and dirt bike
I'd totally keep the stock drive train or at least transmission. All the charm of driving it is in the shifting.
I agree on keeping the stock trans
Agreed 100%
I was lucky enough to be able to drive a 1975. But it was auto. And was converted to a convertible. I’d say, please keep the drive train as well.
Just register it as an RV.
you guys should really join the group crawler haulers on Facebook.
Update: There many many guys on craer haulers that convert busses and even semitrucks into personal vehicles. They are very knowledgeable about how to skirt around the need for a CDL.
Hey I’m in that group
Antique vehicle plates should be cheaper and MAY not require a CDL.
Man, that needs to be polished and put into a museum, it's SO cool!
Definitely would leave the engine alone, I bet its insanely bulletproof.
Slap some more modern axles under it and make it 4x4? I'd keep as much fire truck as possible, that's just cool!
seconding keeping it as "fire truck" as possible
This is what I would like to see as well. I don't know how common this particular model is but I would like it to be mechanically improved but esthetically preserved. It just looks to cool to mess with imo
The drivetrain from a 5-ton military 4x4 truck would put this into MOAB territory.
You can just find a car hauling open trailer and weld it up over the truck (like a vehicle transport rig).
I have worked on this truck. My friend used to own this, and it's been all over the country, I'm glad it made it back to it's hometown.
Never clicked so fast, keep up the crazy projects :) this one will for sure be insane!
I think they should get a enclosed trailer and take it off the chassis and sit it right where the tank is
With a CAT 3126 in it and chrome semi stacks
Awesome! This is going to be a blast!
Man, I love that era ... one of my favorite things is driving by the old New Meadows, Idaho fire department and seeing the old fire truck that says "Village of Meadows" ... I wouldn't change a thing ... you have enough vehicles. It might come in handy later this summer during fire season ... Love the cab forward, like the old vw bus, and the gauges are similar too ... how is your diesel converted 4x4 vanagon running? Trip to Baja? Fill that truck with water, and put down a bunch of 10 mil visqueen, and make the biggest slip and slide down a big grass hill in the middle of nowhere ... before a rave ... wet ... could be fun ...
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As the jag is on jacks, its no wheel drive
Haha right? They keep talking about the Jag as if they didn't just loot half the driveline from it 😂
@@Balomis Project or parts? Somehow both
I believe the have a truck chassis and drive train for under it
and the engine is removed!
The Jag body winds up on the 2J...
Can't wait for this to end up as "when you've got an apartment fire at 2 and a rally at 3"
What also would be pretty cool is turn the back into some kind of “camper” type thing and make it more off road and go camping or something like that in it
Typically a toy hauler is also a camper js
You basically just described a toy hauler.
@@ryantilley-general.shenanigans right bwahaha
I would definitely keep that motor and find a way to tune it. That thing sounds awesome!
Yeah. It sounds like a hot rod & looked like it has Plenty of power... plus only 22K miles. If it ain't broke don't fix it Grinder. 😎
@dylan zrim as long as the speedometer worked for most of its life, it's almost definitely legit. Fire trucks see very low mileage, especially in rural volunteer departments.
Nah a detroit 6-71 has much more support and potential. That old gas engine is complex for how simple it is.
@@Deftonesdsm And the 671 is probably a lot heavier...
There’s a list of things that I was expecting the next ghpc video to be and them buying a fire truck was definitely not on the list😂😂 absolutely awesome machine thought I can’t wait to see the plans you guys have for it!!!
Congrats on owning such an iconic vehicle guys! I grew up on a farm that had a 1930's extension ladder truck just sitting there for years. It had a rear steering station at the back to swing the extremely long ladder section around turns. It also had a hand crank gasoline engine with pistons the size of paint cans in it which got about 3 gallons to the mile. I played on that truck a lot as a kid. Never got the urge to become a fireman. Looking forward to seeing you guys work on this truck and what it turns into. I'm sure you''ll find lots of solid scrap metal on that truck to use in other projects. Good luck!
2020: "Ima bout to mess with your dreams and aspirations."
Grind Hard Plumbing Co: "We just bought a fire truck!"
*makes firetruck noises*
A light in the darkness.
UA-cam Ads pay a ton
Maybe 2021 is looking good. Lol
Aw But is it A American LaFrance?
The whole truck is awesome. The idea of leaving the water tank on it and dividing it in threes would be awesome so you could have gas for the toys diesel for the truck and water for truck or track and then build a car hauler on top all the way down and put the toys above cab and car or truck above water tank and have a lift to drive the vehicles on and lift up to the top of the truck . It word be amazing looking . Wish I could by the motor and transmission from y’all.. those transmissions are really tuff my dad had one in his four-wheel-drive never gave us any trouble LOL
This is so cool! I can’t wait to see what you guys do with this thing. It’s so massive, you guys have so many sweet options.
Do you guys need a special license or CDL to drive that thing?
Edit: ope nevermind hadn’t watched all the way yet.
So many possibilities!
Overlander
Learned to drive a firetruck on an '84 LaFrance. You hit both starters at the same time. Riding the bucket in the 3/4 cab got nice and toasty in the summer and if it was an EMS run you got a nice diamond plate burn tattoo. Good times!! Try and make a toy hauler that still looks like the firetruck to keep the tradition. Good job fellas!!!
It's a beauty, I love the old school look of this. Definitely turn it into the ultimate hauler for the toys. Wow what a beautiful find fella's.
Please don't de-firetruck it! Please!
Make it into a toy hauler for the small stuff, sure.. but keep all of the cool fire truck stuff on the outside! Having an oldschool firetruck is super cool and you can buy a flatbed anywhere. Flatbeds are everywhere, but a cool Not-A-Plumbing-Company of cool dudes driving a Not-A-Firetruck to deploy a tiny fleet of Not-A-Powerwheels would be fucking sick!
This is awesome and I'm super excited for you guys! Great get!
So much yes! Power wheels stacked in the back will be epic
Toy hauler build series would be absolutely awesome to watch
I’ve driven several American Lafrance trucks , they were made in my hometown of elmira NY
That fire truck is badass and your idea of a car hauler is a sweet idea...I would have done the same thing...make sure you build a place for your tool to go ...put some drawers in like a tool box has somewhere in it...Thank you for all you great videos and knowledge...because of you I bought a welder and started working with metal about 6 months ago
$1500??? That's a steal in my book. Amazing vehicle!
Honestly anthing that runs well for $1500 is a good deal!
I'll trade you straight across for a 1961 with the 6-71 Detroit!
This is BEGGING for a Cummins engine. That would be awesome! If you can put a bed on the back and still keep a lot of the looks that would be so sick
As a kid, I lived in Bonners Ferry and remember seeing this fire truck in Naples. So cool to see that it never was destroyed and good it still looks.
A toy hauler would be sick!!!!
Keep the cab, toss the pump bed. put a rollback on it.
Definitely the coolest toy hauler ever.
Bonus points for adding a front drive axle as well (maybe some front load Rockwells?)
I like the diesel swap idea.
what a fun toy to have you guys are going to knock it out of the park on this like you do on all your builds
Years ago I drove and also worked on sometime a very similar 1969 American La France fire truck. Double clutching that beast was a workout. If you start messing with the electrical system, be aware that it might be a positive ground system. The one I drove had a beast of diesel in it.
Dump the tank, find a big airstream trailer, cut the trailer and fit it over the cab and frame, make an enclosed hauler out of it. Maybe sleeping bunk over the cab?
My department had a 1959 LaFrance with the V-12, 5 speed. Manual steering, manual brakes and a non-synchro transmission. That mean double clutching. 750 GPM pump with 750 gallon tank. Open cab (windshield wipers on the inside too) with a homemade tarp too. Great truck.
looking forward to sheet metal from this being on a future project !
I don't think I've ever seen such genuine happiness and excitement out of you guys.
Yessssss, we all guessed it :)
You got to do toy hauler \ rv build . Maybe a overland tent above the cab with off-road light bars and outdoor speakers with radio maybe a pellet grill trailer hit for grilling and a big side awning
Used to have one at out depart ment that was a 1948 with a v12 in it
I saw this for sale and almost bought it. Great buy! Have fun and make something cool. American LaFrance likely used a Ford or Dodge engine and frame rather than building their own, they just did the "firetruck" part. At least that's how it was for a '48 american LaFrance firetruck I was looking at in Cda a few years back.
Toy hauler all the wayyy! 🤟
Beautiful truck!! The possibilities are endless for that truck.
Definitely go for the toy hauler, that would be awesome!!!
SWEET TOY!!! Mega Potential for all the Ideas. Loving the Bug eye head lamps and lights.
I saw the thumbnail and was like “DETROIT DIESEL !!!!” Even as a gasser Its so amazing, glad you guys saved it 👍👍
Its a very awesome v12 engine if im not mistaken. One of the few engines cooler than a Detroit
Its a very awesome v12 engine if im not mistaken. One of the few engines cooler than a Detroit
did you even watch the video?
"Saved it"...
@@haydona1845 isn't it a 803ci v8
That thing is very cool and will make the sweetest toy hauler I've seen it done before and they are amazing.
This is so exciting, can wait to see what it turns into.
That's crazy how utility that thing is. I was a volunteer in upstate N.Y., close enough to NYC that we had a fat enough budget that we had the Cadillac of fire trucks, even the oldest trucks were skk nice inside, you knew you were in a fire truck. Our trucks were all parade trucks with tons of chrome and airbrush and gold leaf. We had automatic and diesel since the 60s.
I’m pretty certain you guys bought this fire truck from the same guy I bought my Spitfire from! I remember him having a Naples firetruck!
Such a beautiful piece of history just imagine how many fires that things so put out in peoples lives it helped save
Imagine finding someone that can operate this fully that’d be sick!!
the hardest part of running is when your pumping off a fire hydrant you collapse the main line by pull more pressure than the line flows I was on a volunteer FD in Granger WY 25 years ago town had two bars one church that was a bar and a post office my boss was the fire chief so if something came up during work hours I was going anyways the end of that hose is no joke but not take anything away from the guys running the truck they got that all day it's just when you put people on the end of that line I'd say three minimum I like watching these guy's too much and there all too damn skinny for it lol but I know they have the heart make up for it
I can. I spent 33 years on these old American LaFrances She's a fine old Gal
My neighboring department has one of these LaFrance's with the Detroit diesel in it...pretty neat rig. Having turned wrenches on numerous fire apparatus over the years, I've always shied away from them as custom build platforms because they're SOOO full of "stuff." Every corner is filled with lines, pumps, and valves. However...you guys always seem to work magic with unconventional builds...so I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
That fire truck is a professional rig! ;-)
That thing sounds AMAZING!
Hey, if you guys are removing the pump and tank from that truck you should see if Matt from Demolition Ranch wants to buy it. He’s trying to build a fire truck
TOY HAULER! TOY HAULER!!! TOY HAULER!!!!!!!!!! Would absolutely LOVE to see that!
oh yes, 6-71T swap it please. needs a two stroke detroit scream!
Oh yeah for sure
Be sure to add a huge turbo and either propane, nitrous or methanol injection
The 6-71 was real popular for marine use up till a couple of decades ago. Since then it has gotten harder and harder to find parts for. the technology of that engine dates back to before WW2 with the 4-49s. They scream nice but are real fuel hogs and tough to fix lately. I'd look for the big brother of the Cummins 12 valve engine- simple, parts are still around , hard to kill- very hard to kill as they were the engine of choice for military freight type trucks.
@@fredericrike5974 Nah. Parts aren't that hard to find. Bus Grease Monkey shows how it is done.
@@hotpuppy1 I'm not a regular follower of BGM, but I haven't seen him working on any fire equipment. He has commented about how much more time he has to spend acquiring general gasket sets. Much of what he does get for older GMC engines comes form non factory sources and is more expensive. You don't rebuild any of the GMC 2 strokes by boring out he bore - you replace the the cylinder bore by exchange. The new bore sleeve has ports machined into it that must be turned correctly for the engine to breathe correctly- GMC doesn't and hasn't made any big numbers of new bores in 20 plus years. BGM also tries to avoid total rebuilds- he has outsourced much of it- that costs him or more likely the client serious money- choosing a later model 4 stroke diesel will be more powerful, have better mileage and be more practical over it's life. The two stroke diesel is not a good engine at all from the emissions standpoint. There are other diesel oriented sites that go at this by using much more current and easily available later model engine as opposed to throwing a "Screaming 6-71" in it. Evan is talking about 1000 mile trips with a few people riding in that Fire Truck; it has a cab heater- the outside jump seats are just out of the wind. No AC. No electric windows, either, riding in the cab of a truck in front of the radiator that cools this "Screaming 6-71" and it already has a big noise problem in the cab. Take the old 6 cyl Continental monster out, take the water pump and gear out, install the new engine/trans under the floor of the hose storage platform, move the radiator back and reduct it, close the back of the now empty back half and install some seating for four and AC, power steering, if the budget is there, air bag the suspension- big trucks were using air bagged suspensions long before cars- and it would be a killer "ramp truck" riding in style vehicle. But that's my opinion; This is GHPCs Fire Truck, and Ethan is the main wizard- this is Ethan's and I think he's "got this"! Oh, and I'd paint i red- a brighter red , with pearls of metallics galore in it! But Red! The GHPC logo in gold leaf on the door, budget permitting, that would be cool.
100% should keep all the aesthetics of the fire truck, patina n all. Then the back opens up and inside are all the powerwheels with a base ontop strong enough to take the Tacoma or what ever, it could be so epic!!! Love that idea Ethan 💡
Cummins swap with a huge rack, that would be awesome
This is why your the best build channel on UA-cam
TAKE IT TO THE GAMBLER!
Toy hauler build is first priority we need it now
You telling me I can daily drive a firetruck for less than my Saturn?!?!?!
Well there is fuel cost and parking to think about well wait parking won't b a problem its a firetruck u got fire lane right on front of every store
I honestly thought he was going to say 15k , which doesn't sound unreasonable. Think about how much you'd have to spend to get an engine that cool obscure and powerful.
Cheaper than my 1991 F-150 too. It's just crazy how cheap that thing is.
@@youknowwho7176 it is I just got a 98 scab 4x4 stepside 4.6 with only 112k for 3 grand. However the 1980-1996 is my all time favorite f150 but I think barret jackson got a hold of those and did them like they did fox body.
Sorry I got carried away I like f150s
This is the greatest thing I've seen in a long time, made my day. Can't wait for the 2jz to fire up, I used to have a 5 speed lex is300.
"You maybe wondering why we bought this."
Me: Because Yes.
The exact mindset everyone SHOULD have
We know you are going to make it a toy carrier, but keep as much of the silhouette of the Fire Truck as you can. It's got to look like a fire engine!
BTW I love the sound of that thing (although I agree that it's loud--no sound deadening anywhere). Reminds me of the school bus from when I was kid, when they had those 1960's to 70's buses still in service with the super long throw gear shifts and you felt each shift from the driver jerking you from corner to corner.
Keep up the good work
Older than I thought, I love it
right when i got the notification i clicked it
Happy to hear it!
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Awesome, cant wait to see it finished. And its strange how everything is reminding me that our garage/workshop/home burned down 4 days ago. Keep safe everyone.
take the pump and other fire truck insides and build a smaller truck to put the pump in and use this firetruck for a toy hauler
Yes, and use the engine out of it when they get a diesel
My dad saw this on marketplace a couple weeks ago and showed it to me, it would make a super dope welding rig but I can’t wait to see what you guys do to it
This would be perfect for a toy run for kids. Do a GoFundMe for toys for tots. I'll pitch in.
When I read “toy hauler“, that’s where my brain went and I’d love to pitch in too.
This engine is so massive 😯
If it was mine, I'll do something like the vanagon. Swap a diesel engine with smooth transmission to create a really drivable and capable hauler. Keep the front as it is, and a bed with firetruck items (the exterior pump panel must be kept!) and go everywhere with it!
That's so cool!
This has gotten me so freaking excited, I can’t wait to see what this ends up as. Obviously it needs to be a toy carrier. Having a little like fold out bunk bed sleeper cab would be really cool to. Be able to take it on road trips to meet ups and stuff like that, especially if you converted to a more fuel efficient diesel
This is sick!!
Get in touch with the North Charleston Fire Museum, they specialize in older American LaFrance firetrucks.
Day 19 of asking grind hard to do there version of mini mayhem.
We really should! Got to find a good place to do it!
@@GrindHardPlumbingCo maybe Spokane OHV park. It’s really big!
SICK!!!! More excited for this than any other build on the channel!!!
Neato you could keep an auxiliary tank for fuel
Sure your gonna need it. roadtrip cross country on one tank of gas. leave the pump working and you have a 1984 firetruck
This truck looks sick cannot wait to see what you do with it, I agree strip most but the cab and have it so you can load 2 vehicles one partly on the cab like smaller car loaders.
Great addition to the ghpc vehicle collection!!
"Hey, you ran over your drift pylon" Well, yeah...It's a fire truck. 😁
I’m beyond pumped for this build. Definitely a toy hauler with a Cummins
Oldest firefighter joke in the book “someone find the keys to the engine we’ve got a call.”
Evan- the engine likely has two sets of spark plugs as well as two starters. This was about reliablilty in any jam. To change out the motor you are looking for a school bus from a rural district- they have enough engine most times to pull the weight up to highway speeds and most built since 1995 or so have automatic transmissions, often Allison made. The sound problem can be helped by using dyna mat or similar liberally. As well as losing the water tank, there is a water pump, driven off the main engine- it weighs 1500 or more pounds- if you aren't into fighting fires, it can go too. Get in touch with the Reliance Fire Museum in Estes Colorado- they can help you with identifying just what you have and may want the pump, etc for one of their restorations. Keep the dual battery set up- in the cold country you live in it could be a life saver!be real careful operating the siren and lights off your property- the Sheriff and the local FD and Rescue people will get all out of joint! ALF had a V12 at one time- but it wasn't a Rolls Royce engine; it was a flathead, I think built from the patterns of the Pierce Arrow engine of the late 30s. It had the dual ignition and starters like yours.When you re engine it, make sure you have a clear notion of what the rear axle ratio is- lots of fire apparatus was ordered with very high ratios so they had lots of power to pull through tough places, but those suck for milage!
6:44 it almost sounds like a Cummins when it starts
Lot of the bright work on the far truck looks really nice so they had a paint job it probably looked very nice
*Blue blue taken out*
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I saw that thing on Market place, and was too late. I wanted to make a hauler out of it as well. At least I'll get to see you guy's build it. That thing is so sweet, can't wait to see the build. I was going to use it to haul my Samurai to Moab this spring, and my Porsche to races, so we had almost the exact same plans. Looking forward to the build. Pretty cool to know you guy's are close by.
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To heavy , especially if toys are mouted on
@@dorsetwarrior3870 i know, it was more like a joke
That would make an excellent car/toy hauler. You know what needs to be done 👍🏻👍🏻
"Can you imagine a jet engine fire truck?"
Funny. I know just the guys..............
That I6 is so awesome! What a beast!
and the next hotwheels build will be..... minime firetruck!
Oh man, a toy hauler that looks as close to the stock fire truck as possible would be so rad!