Supercharged Barbie Jeep Gets Dyno Tuned! FAIL!
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2021
- We brought our Honda CRF 450 Barbie Jeep in for a dyno tune after we supercharged it with a supercharger from a k car we bought on alibaba. The results were disastrous and ended up in the ultimate dyno fail. Golf kart wheels and tires from www.golfcarttiresupply.com/trex/
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I see a UA-cam sensation with the Dyno Guy. Anyone else see that? He has persona! Charisma! Dwayne from Whiskey Customs! Dwayne! I see you being a part of future GHPC videos, bringing your wisdom and insight! Great Job all!
that guy is so smart and a good explainer
Explainer didn't think that was a word but I was wrong
Vary
Yeah fr lol
Which guy? Ethan or Dwayne the dyno guy?
You being sarcastic or did you mean to spell (very) wrong?
Been a while since we've seen a video on Senderella, can't wait for a built motor and 30 PSI.
did you gap the piston rings for the boost? if you didnt then might be the cause. more boost the bigger the ring gap you need otherwise the ring closes and destroys piston, sleeve, valves. love the content
This was a bone stock CRF450 engine. They just threw the supercharger on there. full sendage.
My thoughts as well, really high iat's, additional heating/stress from probable pre-det, high water temps, and unmodified rings, I'm guessing they seized in the bore momentarily.
Fix the overheating, run on e85, figure out an intercooler, ring gap: send it again.
@@MeatPoPsiclez I whole heatedly agree with this man. Do these things and it'll be safe. Also look into methanol injection. I hear some people used the blue windshield washer fluid. It contains methanol I guess.
Lowering the compression would also help a lot but i think it wont be that easy because you need to make a custom piston or a spacer for the cylinder (that would bring up some issues because of the Timing chain though)
Permafrost asked a great question! this is exactly what happens when you don't gap you rings for boost. the rings expend from the increased heat and pressure. when the gap disappears, the ring buckles and the your piston and engine look just like what you got there. Love your content guys, keep it up!
with no spark timing adjustments and "probably ok air/fuel mix" that motor must have had a shit ton of knock xd
It absolutely did, you could hear it when he was on it.
Knock Knock, guess who's there 😅
You beat me to it. Was going to say detonation was a massive contributing factor.
That was pure unadulterated TDC super heated exhaust gases with no where to go but catastrophic 🤣
@Fuckur Censorship go
We all love the hell out of this jeep lol.
#1 I got the 69th like #2 I think you missed a space.
Ty
Dwayne seems like a really cool guy. Hope we get to see him again sometime.
Was thinking the exact same
Here sign this before we blow Barbie TFU
100% dude sounds like he knows his stuff and is a character id like to see more of!
need high octane race gas, that piston melted from denonation
@NuBz definitely could’ve saved it but i’m still suprised it lasted that long
I was always wondering how a high compresion 450 engine coud hold up to 15 psi of boost.
Here is the answer.
Good work.
and N/A ignition map
Е85 топливо
Need to make a trophy out of the piston , because that was a Gold Medal send ! Thanks for all you do
At least you was doing something cool when it blew up
Glad Dwayne will make an appearance in future episodes. Seems like a great dude with quite the wealth of knowledge.
That last dyno readout looked like 2 Bald Eagles, should’ve knew she hit her peak lmao 😂
Piston ring gap probably too tight, heat caused piston rings to touch and break the piston
You know what I love about this guy he can blow up something he spent a long time duild and actually laugh about it good for you buddy love your videos keep up the great work I know you put a lot of work into what you do so it's appreciated have a great day buddy
It floated a valve. Makes perfect sense since there was an valve shim lose in the head and you have a blower on it which would put pressure on it. If you want to put that blower on another motor definitely upgrade the valve springs
Or cool it adequately! I agree with your diagnosis. I wondered if the cam seized first
@@mandrakejake yeah the blower puts a lot of stress on the. Valve train. In a perfect world it would run of the output shaft or the crank the the stator cover. Kinda saw it coming but that's what these guys do yk
I'm gonna say the shim flew out when the piston cocked and smashed the valve!
A camshaft driven blower would put strain on the cam chain but not the valves, not to mention that engine speed is limited electronically (you can hear it working in the video) so I can't see how valve float could be the issue. In any case, a valve kissing the piston would not cause the catastrophic piston flip we all just saw...
@@Ijusthopeitsquick it would be because there is an extra 15 pounds of pressure pushing down on the valve. These motors aren't usual supercharged so I wouldn't expect them to take 15 lbs of pressure on those valve springs
RUD - Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly
Good luck with the rebuild, thanks for sharing!
Rockets get RUDded a lot.
@@anthonydomanico8274 During the high speed development of Space X for sure but after that not really. I'm sure the astronauts that travel on the rockets are happy that they are reliable now (falcon 9). and I'm confident they will get at least the same level op reliability with starship somewhere in the next few years.
R.I.P. Senderella 😭
Looking forward to Shrederella's Incarnation
That’s well put ! Like the Evil step motor
The Evil Step Motor needs to be Krila Ducatti monster !
Richt now it's disinderella since the engine disintegrated
It's cool you showed the carnage afterwards in the same video, most split them in to two videos weeks apart. It's a bummer it blew but build break repeat is the motor head way of life. I used three of them small engine NOS kits at the same time on my 22hp twin briggs lawn tractor and blew both pistons out the heads at 52 mph, it was wild.
Best explanation of a Dyno ever
That damage is very typical of spark nock damage.
Iat's to high with less than desirable fuel.
Put it on e85 or methanol with the new motor and put the supercharger back on.
And it will make more than 60hp at the crank.
It’s not hard to get 60hp @ the crank on a stock engine with minimal mods...
@@xhuff317 60 hp out of an old 450? Might need a bit more than a little bit of modding
Current 450s make 63hp right from the factory (honda, ktm, husky)
That same 450 with gapped rings for boost and on e85 or methonal could make 100hp with 15psi of boost eay.
I have a 04 Suzuki lt400 with a turbo it makes 13psi and is on e85 it makes 95hp.
So I'm sure a motor with 50cc more displacement and more boost can make 100hp.
@@lorton557 this thing only made 37hp because of such short gearing.. revs out to fast to get a good pull
I'm sorry to see Send-erella go so soon, rest in pieces. ),:
Rest in pieces 😂
I really appreciate that explanation of the dyno lines, the inner workings, and how it manifests. Went from "...uhh?" to "oh yeah that makes perfect sense" pretty much instantly, and his further explanation just really set it right in there, hahaha.
How does one laugh about catastrophic engine failure
When one is expecting it to blow up and is okay with it happening lol
Most of my engine puking it’s guts moments were pretty funny tbh.
If it’s a daily I get it, but a toy? Meh.
When you’re rich and the failure creates video content that adds to your income. I’d be happy too!
in a higher pitch than usual
These guys are rolling in cash right now, and every paycheck is bigger than the last. I would laugh too if I had their resources
That HP, for a Barbie power wheels build, I wouldn't complain at all. Pretty nuts!
That's the most adorable dyno I've ever seen
time for a head spacer to lower compression and e85 with a speeduino setup and methanol injection
You probably had crazy detonation, that melts the shit out of pistons
I dont think a head spacer would work. It would change the timing of the crank to camshaft. Instead I would file ring gaps wider to make it a low compression motor. And an upgraded piston
@@sethharriman1988 ring gaps dont change the compression ratio. That's not how that works.
@@sethharriman1988 If you lower compression that way you'd have an insane amount of blow-by.
@@draggonhedd it is. When you build boosted engines they file ring gaps larger to account for boost and the extra heat it produces. Heat makes the ring gaps close. File them big and they will compress to be correct gap when they get hot. If you dont file them you run the risk of the ring gap closing and breaking a ringland. Look it up. Its Interesting to see how they build boost engines.
@@mehmeh7701 correct you would have a ton of blowby. But when the engine gets hot and the rings expand with a larger gap they will expand and close the ring gap raising compression and essentially correct the blow by. Not fully but kind of. But thats only under load and with heat.
10:34 to 11:02 how dynos work, North Idaho style🤘🤙😂
Dude blew my mind
Never seen such carnage and catastrophic damage. It looked absolutely wild when it blew up. I look forward to see it revived with a "new" engine. Would be interesting to see the stock engine on the dyno, especially if the graph doesn't look like.. whatever the hell that was.
detonation was probably so bad that you may as well have swung a hammer at it lol
What a nice guy! I hope he becomes a regular thing for this UA-cam channel with you guys bringing stuff down there and hopefully NOT blowing them up!
The fact that this tiny jeep is faster than my car saddens me
RIP Sendy engine #1.
"Boys, bring on engine #2!"
Engine #2, "Noooooo.........!"
When they send it, they SEND IT!
You need to do more collaborations with this shop. This guy seems just like you three, I love this haha
Sounded and looked to me like it over reved and floated the valves with the added boost temp ect. No rev limiter?
That’s what I was thinking too that last run sounds like it revs a lot higher than the first couple runs
Sudden unintentional disassembly😂 rip sendy
Things i woud do.. 20w50 oil and an external oil cooler. Open up the top ring some for the boost. And maybe add a rev box and dial back the limiter some. The unlimited budget option would be to get a custom piston made with a fat top ring land and slightly lower compression. A coating on the piston would help a shit ton also.
All that and some 110+ octane fuel
They make custom pistons in different compression ratios for about the same price as a stock one. That is not an “unlimited budget” option, it’s the common sense option.
@@adamr9215 An off the shelf piston that has a different compression ratio isn't "custom". There's more to the design of a piston than just the dome. When I say custom I mean a one off. Thicker top ring land, longer skirt etc. These are things that you don't get in a normal aftermarket piston. None of those were designed to see a large increase in cylinder pressure from forced induction.
@@FastPaull Have you ever ordered JE or Ross pistons? They will make anything you want and have it shipped in a couple of weeks for about the same price as their off the shelf stuff. You are talking to a guy who is a machinist and engine builder, and has been for close to 30 years. Plus, people are boosting everything now, so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they had boost ready pistons.
FYI, that piston failed due to predetonation. Way too much compression for boost without pulling timing. If the rings were gapped and timing was pulled with higher octane fuel, it would have lasted quite a bit longer. Thicker ring lands aren’t needed, they only break when the ring isn’t gapped right.
@@adamr9215 I know why the piston failed. You're also talking to someone who's been building engines for 20+ years. I mean I explained it in my original post.. Have I ever ordered a custom JE piston? No. I prefer Mahle, or Diamond, sometimes Wiseco. And I'm sorry, but when you add boost with that kind of RPM, you want a thicker ringland. Why play with fire if you don't have to? I mean, if JE can do a custom piston for $5 more then why skimp on that.
I like this dyno guy !,and a very interesting video !!
Sad thing that the motor blew up. 😥😥
But can't wait to Senderella running again. And also when I saw the motors state, I was a bit sorry for the motor. Keep up the great videos guys!! 👍👍👍
You guys should chuck a Cr500 engine in 'er while you're at it.
nah, they should do a maico 700
@@TheKtm300rider Why not both?
Or if they want even more power, a modern 450.
Love seeing the Carnage very impressive
I love how your like oh well looks like it just disassembled itself with a smile
Dude I’m so happy for this upload
You should put one with electric start on it
So awesome absolutely the coolest guys on youtube 👌
yall deserve way more subs for the amount of time and work and editing skills!!! to say the least
Gotta love the boys at grind hard! Always interesting and entertaining. You even inspired my own build, a stretched yamaha warrior frame with a honda cb500 4 cylinder powerplant. its going to be rowdy!
Damn...First the odyssey and now senderella! You guys should change your channel name to butter cause you're on a roll!
I was gonna guess piston failure after seeing all the coolant come out and when it didn't throw the rod out the side of the block. Forged pistons incoming!
I don't think fail is an accurate description. Engines are disposable, knowledge is priceless and the video was cool. All win in my book.
That guy who owns the dyno seems super cool, you should bring more projects to him in the future!
remember, you aint having fun if you dont bring it home broken
Sure is right man
Looks like the tires are moving at an 8bit speed
I thought I was having a stroke lol
That death rattle was amazing, never heard one blow before. I recall my dad and our riding mower threw a rod through the motor block. Great times.
your guys' lives are the coolest!
I've seen this Jeep 100 times in ur vids, but you sitting on it, on a Dyno seems as absurd as the first time I saw it lol.
A dyno is a fantastic way of destroying your engine. Very efficient.
How so
@@sendingit2601 you are giving the engine 100% and that alt of Times and if you got an engine like that its a Matter of time, and 15psi in that 450 engine at 100% throttle.
It's just going to happen
@@leRat699 Yep, even if the motor is brand new.
@@sendingit2601 Simple physics. The mass of a dyno will never match the mass of the vehicle on it and that puts a massive amount of unusual stress on the motor in addition to un-naturally throttling the motor. There is absolutely zero reason to dyno an engine outside of factory tuning from the manufacture of that engine in its development stage.
@@3rdaxis649 oh ya I definitely agree with that. Unless your putting new parts that require tuning on it, probably not worth the time, money, risk. Ngl I've never really looked too deep into dynos, so I'm gonna say your right. The dyno charts they were getting were really weirdly shaped and definitely taught me something about dynos
I loved the video! Hate that Senby blow TFU, but can’t wait to see where you go from here.
It’s awesome that you guys found a local shop to dyno your toys!
What’s the next engine option for the Barbie jeep?
Probably another 450
Raptor 700 motor.
Imagine the banshee with tracks
Awsome pull.....I'm anxious to see what new motor pulls !!
Looking forward to the other vehicles on the dyno 😂 love the content guys
Cr500 motor
Put it on a methanol diet. That’ll cool the intake charge & bump up the fuel.
with that tiny fuel tank meth wouldn't last a minute, E85 has better stoic and cools the intake aswell
@@KalLanPIDT not instead of…. In addition. Lean engines get hot &melt pistons. It’s easier to dial fuel back than add it. Especially when you’re at the edge of your carburetors envelope. I bet that plug was white & brown. He never let us see it.
"Random disassembly". Love it!
Great video as always!
Day 52 of asking grind hard to do there version of mini mayhem
I want you guys to build a PowerWheels Lamborghini Sian with an engine too? And could you build me one please??!!!!!
They should just *give* you one
@@sendingit2601 it’s only logical. I’m sure he’s wanted one forever and it would only take them a few hours to make one right? (Sarcasm)
Glad to see this local in my area! Coeur d’Alene over here. 🙂
Not enough ring gap and great vid as always thanks for the awesomeness
17:07 oil runs to tools, move tools, oil runs to tools, move tools, oil runs to tools, wipes up oil, move tools, covers tools, oil runs to tools and soaks up the rags, cleans up, moves tools, oil runs to tools, gives up 🤣🤣🤣
After seeing the engine apart, quite surprised that's all that exploded just to see the piston shredded and that you guys have another engine so you'll have or should have similar dyno results for next engine going in. But yeah that's awesome to get it on the dyno.. your creations are fun as hell although slightly sketchy or even dangerous but I'd definitely go with the smiles per miles they'd give everyday just messing around the yard or the new tracks you guys have been making around the property.. Definitely a double thumbs up!!
I like this dyno guy. He needs a beer! He is a smart dude for sure. Keep him on your future dyno runs
Poor Sendi, thanks for the memories!
Cant wait to see the rebuild
Dyno owner is so smart and informative.
Awesome video!! LOL absolutely awesome
I love that I live down the way from these guys
Beautiful work
dude i was thinking my piston looks bad on dirt bike,but this is a whole new level
Very impressed with everything you guys do!! This idahoan need a power wheels atv!!!
proud, love you guys
I heard your jeep from my house🤣🤣
A little different sounding then what they usually run.
Sweet vid guys!
You guy’s are soooo underrated!
When he sed “im just disappointed nothing came out of the engine” 😂 i think he forgot its sitting right where his fee go
Also for high boost you can use the stiffer valve springs to suit steel valve conversions on the factory titanium valves to stop valve float at high rpm and high boost
Love the teardown time lapse..
Dude looks like the car wizard!!
But yeah good times 🤣🤣🤣 awesome video guys.
Sudden unintentional disassembly is my new favorite phrase.
"I mean, if it was gonna blow up, this was the perfect time for it to blow up"
Best way to look at the situation, love it
Oh yeah that valve cover is now a part of the wall of fame that’s very cool🔥
Love these guys 😘
Two absolutely alpha motor nurds having a ball.
Awesome video
I am pretty astounded that the only thing that gave up was the piston, when running a high compression engine on non-intercooled 15psi without any spark adjustment. Pretty incredible that it lasted as long as it did. If you decide to supercharge it again, a small water-meth setup might be enough to keep it alive longer. Can't wait to see it running again!
It's a Honda what you expect 🤣
Damn what a great series. Just spend all day watching it. Next up an r1 engine lol MAN I wish you had blueprints or a pre fab build to buy!
You guys make a good team the dyno guys is cool
Whoa! I love that dudes shirt! Its weird seeing someone wearing an Orioles shirt way out there in Idaho. Can't wait to see The Colonel on the dyno next.