Smash Leak, Rumor, and Theory Speculation AFTER Min Min - PapaGenos

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
  • Going over all the current Smash Leaks, Rumors, Theories and Speculation AFTER Min Min!!! Min Min, a spirit character, has been UPGRADED!!! Could more Spirits become playable DLC Fighters as part of our 2nd fighters Pass for Super Smash Bros Ultimate???
    Sakurai Famitsu Article translated by Source Gaming:
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  • @PlumEXE
    @PlumEXE 4 роки тому +280

    You remember the how in the Caco Mallow leak, Ken’s Shoryuken damage was slightly off etc? It’s worth checking if that damage change lines up in the patch with Min Min.

    • @antasmaxgenoforsmash5434
      @antasmaxgenoforsmash5434 4 роки тому +54

      they said in the E3 of 2018 that in 2 player battles the damage is higher than in 3+ characters so we specifically need to check the damage in 3 player battles

    • @rusty8311
      @rusty8311 4 роки тому +5

      Antasma X #GenoForSmash I thought it does less in multiplayer?
      Edit: never mind read it wrong lol

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому +19

      That leak is still strange, in my opinion, mainly because whoever was behind it thought that by putting Ken in doing that taunt that it would automatically be considered real owing to the Ken "leak" being real. But then there was actual video footage of this "leak" in action. Very strange, really.

    • @supirorguy5086
      @supirorguy5086 4 роки тому +7

      Plum. EXE it absolutely isn’t worth looking at. They wouldn’t have costumes for games unrepresented ready almost a year and a half before release.
      Plus, we are getting Bethesda content this patch, why not Cacodemon?

    • @milkywayflea404
      @milkywayflea404 4 роки тому +5

      @@supirorguy5086 Maybe it really is because of what PapaGenos suggested, that the Vault Boy costume being showcased alongside the 76th fighter when the latest Fallout game is Fallout 76 lines up. It most likely is coincidence, but Sakurai and the Smash dev team do pay attention to stuff like this.

  • @benjaminspanklin1662
    @benjaminspanklin1662 4 роки тому +37

    *Min Min, a spirit character, gets revealed as a playable character*
    Geno, Rayman, and Shantae: So there's a chance?
    Fire Emblem spirits: Always has been.

    • @FlightX101
      @FlightX101 4 роки тому

      @Gabriel Keller it would be a 100% victory for indie fans

    • @juankassimatis1497
      @juankassimatis1497 3 роки тому

      YES PLEASE (specially shantae

    • @Fu_nik
      @Fu_nik 3 роки тому

      We need Shantae, if it’s another fire emblem character then I’m starting a riot

  • @pipefreakingtime9937
    @pipefreakingtime9937 4 роки тому +62

    Loved when Sakurai just was picking the Joker and Hero amiibos out of thin air lmao

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf 4 роки тому +6

      "And for my next trick..."

  • @okazu3044
    @okazu3044 4 роки тому +137

    That japanese leak about having a "throwing weapon" is a LITERAL translation, the PROPER translation is just talking about having an "projectile" like the classic hadouken, 飛び道具

    • @notapro6430
      @notapro6430 4 роки тому +10

      I mean, she does also have a whole laser

    • @AT7outof10
      @AT7outof10 4 роки тому +6

      They were clearly baiting Chun Li speculation.

    • @joshinaround7901
      @joshinaround7901 4 роки тому

      Pfffffffh you don't understand japanese. I do because I watch anime.
      Lol jk

    • @terrysyvertson9205
      @terrysyvertson9205 4 роки тому +1

      @@AT7outof10 we don't need any more capcom characters

    • @azurlune1877
      @azurlune1877 4 роки тому +2

      @@terrysyvertson9205 we do chun is amazing

  • @okazu3044
    @okazu3044 4 роки тому +138

    Sakurai did in fact say we'll atleast get 5 more DLC characters and reveal trailers, but in context of what he was talking about beforehand, it was more as a promise that they'll atleast finish the 2nd fighter pass regardless of the pandemic going on right now. Although i wouldn't mind a 3rd pass at all. Sakurai pls

    • @terrysyvertson9205
      @terrysyvertson9205 4 роки тому +3

      no, fighters pass 2 is supposed to take 2 years to complete meaning we'll get 3 years of dlc and dlc tends to only last 3 years so it's highly unlikely that we'll get any more dlc after fighters pass 2

    • @AHGavInDaUSA
      @AHGavInDaUSA 4 роки тому +16

      Terry Syvertson this man said DLC tends to last for 3 years lmao what

    • @jamison4281
      @jamison4281 4 роки тому +10

      [: ignore him he’s all over twitter and spews the same nonsense

    • @omiartz
      @omiartz 4 роки тому +4

      Fighters pass 2 is enough, respect sakueais choice to stop after this, hes done so much ad so has the development team. So just say thank you for having any pass at all.

    • @claire6452
      @claire6452 4 роки тому +3

      What about starting by fixing how stale the game is with actual balance change for once instead of more dlcs.

  • @Cylapse
    @Cylapse 4 роки тому +86

    I love this thumbnail so much just because of Lloyd's placement and of all the pictures to use, it's one of the best ones...

    • @icamefromspacexD
      @icamefromspacexD 4 роки тому +3

      Right? Papa is getting better with his thumbnails for sure

  • @itsturniptime3699
    @itsturniptime3699 4 роки тому +93

    I just realized if Geno comes back as a Mii Costume, he could replace the Spirit Fight of Geno

    • @Solibrae
      @Solibrae 4 роки тому +14

      They would definitely do that.

    • @alfocrack0355
      @alfocrack0355 4 роки тому +5

      Oh no.
      That's not good.
      But if it comes to the game as a pseudo playable role I'm ok with it.

    • @davidtg803
      @davidtg803 4 роки тому

      That would be dope

    • @Evan8er
      @Evan8er 4 роки тому +1

      And I mean, since they brought back Heihachi that could be the case

    • @zzskyninjazz1821
      @zzskyninjazz1821 4 роки тому

      As long as we get the song of the forest that’ll be fine

  • @AlphaStoutland
    @AlphaStoutland 4 роки тому +34

    Shantae for Smash DLC! 😄

  • @contebudino
    @contebudino 4 роки тому +52

    Regarding Zelda, he also said so yesterday in a livestream where he was a guest. So it's probably just Sakurai being himself.

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому +8

      Yeah, Sakurai mentioned that he normally can't do these things without Smash fans jumping the gun.

    • @20D0D0
      @20D0D0 4 роки тому +1

      But imagine Zelda weilding the Master Sword in Smash 🤯

    • @SapphireSword-pd1ix
      @SapphireSword-pd1ix 4 роки тому +1

      @@20D0D0 Zelda can't wield the Master Sword. The Master Sword is destined to only be wield by Link.

  • @HikariWolf007
    @HikariWolf007 4 роки тому +101

    Papa uploading a 40+ minute video?! YES.

  • @bigdro5227
    @bigdro5227 4 роки тому +34

    I want Geno just to see this guy get his wish

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому

      Strangely, that's my reason as well. I'd love to see PapaGenos hootin' and hollerin' and beside himself with joy.

    • @pengoschwortz4734
      @pengoschwortz4734 4 роки тому +1

      God same. Geno fans have been hoping for SO long, if only SE wasn’t the devil

  • @WideMouth
    @WideMouth 4 роки тому +16

    The reason Sakurai brought up Ganondorf and Zelda when discussing amiibos is because Ganondorf and Zelda have drastically different designs in Ultimate than they did in Smash 4, and they don’t have amiibos that represent their new designs (Ultimate Link is based on BotW Link, which technically has an amiibo already). None of the other Ultimate fighters had their designs as drastically changed from Smash 4 as the main three Zelda characters.

  • @ASliceOfGamingPodcast
    @ASliceOfGamingPodcast 4 роки тому +47

    I can see the argument of “vault boy would come with Doom Slayer”
    But the deluxe Mii costumes don’t match the character they come with. Just look at Cuphead. Wouldn’t it make sense he would come with Banjo as they are both from Microsoft? But no, Cuphead came with Byleth.
    So I don’t think us getting Vault Boy now deconfirms Doom Guy or any Bethesda character.

    • @GhettoWitchDoctor
      @GhettoWitchDoctor 4 роки тому +5

      same with lloyd/heihachi and namco

    • @olgierdvoneverec4135
      @olgierdvoneverec4135 4 роки тому +13

      If anything it proves there is colaboration between the companies and increases the chances.

    • @DarkEmissary617
      @DarkEmissary617 4 роки тому +9

      Yes thank you finally someone noticed that. Meaning if true Ubisoft and Bethesda may very well get a fighter.

    • @CometX-ing
      @CometX-ing 4 роки тому +1

      Cuphead isn’t owned by Microsoft.

    • @ArylBarrel
      @ArylBarrel 4 роки тому

      CometX-ing
      Was about to bring that up.

  • @AyoTech83
    @AyoTech83 4 роки тому +34

    "To cap off, let's talk about Sakurai's couch- no just kidding"
    I won't lie, I cackled hard at this trolling.

    • @ChristianPerrotta
      @ChristianPerrotta 4 роки тому +1

      yeah, me too!! Then I came after a comment that talked about it. And then I found you.
      Coincidence?
      ...
      yes

  • @ClownPuncher139
    @ClownPuncher139 4 роки тому +3

    Someone we definitely shouldn’t forget about is Ryu Hayabusa. He was all the talk for Fighter Pass 5, and I don’t think we’ve seen anything that blocks him out yet. Certainly nothing to help him as of late, but he certainly isn’t out of the race.

    • @elemomnialpha
      @elemomnialpha 4 роки тому

      Personally I think Ryza is more likely in terms of a Koei Techmo rep but I wouldn't fully count out Ryu either

  • @TurtleRhythm
    @TurtleRhythm 4 роки тому +42

    Rayman has more of a chance to join Smash now!!

  • @kamatakun-1.0
    @kamatakun-1.0 4 роки тому +11

    I want Boss Rush with new bosses, Porky, Ridley and Rayquaza(Returning Brawl bosses)
    Why Ridley Boss? They should do something similar to Ganondorf transforming to Ganon.

  • @AnthonyLisi
    @AnthonyLisi 4 роки тому +14

    I hope Shantae, Rayman, and Geno get into Smash.

  • @staretimecomics
    @staretimecomics 4 роки тому

    Such an extensive recap, and good new theories and ideas. Way to go, Papa G. Great content!

  • @kingofgames2992
    @kingofgames2992 4 роки тому +69

    Lloyd looks like he killed a man lol, he must of killed heihachi

    • @hyness5417
      @hyness5417 4 роки тому +14

      Lloyd: There can only be one Bandai rep heihachi......

    • @luismartins2791
      @luismartins2791 4 роки тому +12

      Lloyd: the future is now, oldman

    • @kyleglor64
      @kyleglor64 4 роки тому

      yoshimitsu is a good fit to rep soul cal as well

    • @luismartins2791
      @luismartins2791 4 роки тому +1

      Kyle Glor I don’t think they would choose yoshimitsu. I know he could rep soul calibur and tekken at the same time but still I think they would go with nightmare

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 4 роки тому +3

      Lloyd: “You still get games Heihachi, let me be the 2nd Namco Rep in Smash.”

  • @dacienfelice2993
    @dacienfelice2993 4 роки тому +5

    As I predicted, the spirit board mixes in the old ARMS spirits with new ones for the sake of completion. This is cool as it means that if you have the DLC you can get any old ARMS spirits you missed at any time without hassle.

  • @TheInquisitor26
    @TheInquisitor26 4 роки тому +27

    My fear of Geno coming back as a mii costume is very high atm. But I won’t give up until it’s definitely over. Many thought Banjo was impossible, and we see how that turned out

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 4 роки тому +10

      Geno is the missing piece of the Triforce with Ridley and K. Rool
      Or you could say one of the 4 Horsemen of the Decade Long Requests along with Ridley, K. Rool and Banjo.

    • @yesimnotcreative6312
      @yesimnotcreative6312 4 роки тому +5

      @@brandonwilliams6119 it's more of a 4 horsemen type deal

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому +1

      @@brandonwilliams6119 You mean the three overhype characters nobody care about once they make the roster? Why would you want another waste of a character like that?

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому

      Banjo in smash cause Microsoft wanted him in the game. If Microsoft didn't want him in smash then he still be mia. Square don't want geno on the main roster cause they prefer other characters they made own over him. Nintendo can't put a character in smash unless them and the developers both agree on who gets in. Square and Nintendo decided on hero so that it for square.

    • @thebest1ever103
      @thebest1ever103 4 роки тому +2

      INFERNO95 That’s all just speculation. You just have an angry bias. Get off your high horse and learn how to respect other’s opinions.

  • @redpandax-wing_8317
    @redpandax-wing_8317 4 роки тому +43

    Time to speculate :
    Doomguy and Geno ?
    - Bethesda's Vault Boy Mii costume
    - Caco Mellow leak Fake or True ?
    Rayman ?
    - Rayman Copyright update similar to Banjo Kazooie scenario
    - Smash related things from Ubisoft being deleted
    - 2020 is Rayman 25th Anniversary
    - Spirits can now be dlc

    • @user-ee7nc8bi4n
      @user-ee7nc8bi4n 4 роки тому +4

      #)
      Lets wait my dude

    • @CowboyJoseph64
      @CowboyJoseph64 4 роки тому +9

      People need to stop using dates as evidence at this point, honestly.

    • @redpandax-wing_8317
      @redpandax-wing_8317 4 роки тому +10

      @@CowboyJoseph64 None of this are evidence, theses are speculations. I never said that this date is the evidence that Rayman will get in, It's just a fact and I speculate about, I never said that Rayman will come to smash, just speculation

    • @jude4581
      @jude4581 4 роки тому +4

      Can we please drop CacoMalo? It's obviously not real at this point.

    • @redpandax-wing_8317
      @redpandax-wing_8317 4 роки тому +1

      @@jude4581 It got debunked ? I've not checked

  • @WonderlandPirate
    @WonderlandPirate 4 роки тому +2

    It's not only Geno who has a connection to the number seven. The most recent Shantae game was "Shantae and the Seven Sirens".

    • @elemomnialpha
      @elemomnialpha 4 роки тому

      And unlike Geno Nintendo would have a reason to re-evaluate Shantae as a fighter between them deciding on the base game and Fighters Pass 1 in 2015 to whenever Fighters Pass 2 was decided

  • @olgierdvoneverec4135
    @olgierdvoneverec4135 4 роки тому +11

    I'm still hoping for a fully fleshed indie rep, like Shantae, Hat kid, Madeline, Geralt, who knows!

    • @mrpizza_5139
      @mrpizza_5139 4 роки тому +1

      I would think it would be Frisk from Undertale

    • @elemomnialpha
      @elemomnialpha 4 роки тому +3

      Geralt isn't indie and he's not even eligible, he's a book character.
      If there is an indie rep it will most likely be either Shantae, Quote, Reimu, or Gunvolt

    • @Doracake
      @Doracake 4 роки тому

      Not impossible, but only depends on whether they fit in DLCs or just a base game filler if they cannot sell.

    • @olgierdvoneverec4135
      @olgierdvoneverec4135 4 роки тому

      @@elemomnialpha I consider him indie for the first game, definetly not the third, but agree he's a longshot he's my half joke request.
      Nice sugestions by the way, Reimu would be a great adition, and Quote is among the most worty to represent indies.

    • @user-jj7uc9gg7b
      @user-jj7uc9gg7b 4 роки тому +1

      Or the Knight from Hollow Knight. With the release of Silksong, it should hopefully line up, and would be a good promotional thing too.

  • @Tinix_Ty
    @Tinix_Ty 4 роки тому +17

    Sakurai's Couch Confirmed!?!?!

  • @damarv7025
    @damarv7025 4 роки тому

    Frl always love waking up and drinking a cup of coffee while watching your vids. Keep it up bro!

  • @jontayy6592
    @jontayy6592 4 роки тому +3

    I see Rex and Shantae in thumbnail, I click

  • @kaptinnyanx1706
    @kaptinnyanx1706 4 роки тому +63

    I’m OK with it ending on the second fighters pass Sakura he has done so much for the super smash bro’s , this man needs to take a break

    • @guardianpigeon2029
      @guardianpigeon2029 4 роки тому +14

      I don't think he will ever take a break. The guy LOVES video games, and clearly has a lot of fun doing what he's doing. It's his passion, it's not like he's being forced to do this. Furthermore, he probably has vacation time and the ability to use it whenever he wants.
      If he wanted to stop doing Smash, he'd immediately go to another project.

    • @Legendary-Nitro
      @Legendary-Nitro 4 роки тому +7

      I hope we get atleast 1 more fighter pass but just for echos
      something that can be easily made and dropped quickly since echos are just copy and paste but with some slight edits

    • @t-real7088
      @t-real7088 4 роки тому +1

      Why does a man that makes millions "need" a break? He probably rests more than the common person at night.

    • @theshadowspider97
      @theshadowspider97 4 роки тому +3

      @@Legendary-Nitro I really want an echo fighter's pass, as well. My most wanted characters really can only work as echoes. (Dixie Kong and Jeanne) Well, not sure if Dixie can have a proper moveset or not, but, Jeanne literally is an echo fighter in her own games. She actually just has Bayo's moveset, but, with a stricter window of activation for Witch Time.

    • @Legendary-Nitro
      @Legendary-Nitro 4 роки тому +2

      Umbra7991 I’m quite shocked jeanne wasn’t an echo
      in all honesty there were a lot of echos I was expecting lol

  • @erictennison4673
    @erictennison4673 4 роки тому +35

    Disconfirmation by spirit has been the bane of smash speculation discussion for 2 years. I’m so happy this fan rule has been broken

    • @courage1363
      @courage1363 4 роки тому

      Dude its still likely deconfirmed still since adding Min Min could likely be a 1 time thing.
      And look i know you all people who will complain to people like me saying "its still a fanmade rule", but we still dont know if the Spirits get premoted thing will still offically break the so called "fan made rule" you people speak of, and look i wanted Bandanna Waddle Dee to be playable myself also since hes one of the 4 major Kirby characters since Return to Dreamland, but we really need to wait until the next character will reveal if its a spirit upgrade or a brand new character that has not been used in Smash Bros history like Byleth.

    • @erictennison4673
      @erictennison4673 4 роки тому

      Really raining on the victory parade there.
      With min-min in, the possibility’s are open, let’s just leave it at that

  • @vslazer6728
    @vslazer6728 4 роки тому +2

    Really good speculation video!

  • @dacienfelice2993
    @dacienfelice2993 4 роки тому +3

    My definition for a Deluxe Mii Costume is: Covers the Mii's face to focus more on presenting a character rather than a Mii resembling a character, and has a "trailer", by which I mean the trailer is partially in engine, but requires significant doctoring of the footage besides cutting and splicing clips with music in the background. With Cuphead and Vault Boy it's more obvious, the storybook and S.M.A.S.H. Card overlay screenshots and footage of Cuphead and Vault Boy respectively. With Sans, it's more subtle, they had to change the "Now Entering A:" to read "Sans" instead of "Mii Gunner", they turned the background black, inverted the colors of the pictochat stage, and got a head-on shot of Sans with Sakurai's dev camera. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

    • @dacienfelice2993
      @dacienfelice2993 4 роки тому +2

      It also helps if they have music, are an indie character, or come from an unrepresented publisher, but I don't believe any of those attributes are required.

  • @bryndanfrazier5558
    @bryndanfrazier5558 4 роки тому +14

    Damn so early in the morning... I love the dedication my dude.

  • @kirbypier999
    @kirbypier999 4 роки тому +42

    You talk about ness eyes missing maybe they was using it for vault boy lol

    • @Bella-xp1us
      @Bella-xp1us 4 роки тому +1

      Why would they use ness and not mii gunner as the base?

    • @nib1448
      @nib1448 4 роки тому

      @@Bella-xp1us vault boy and ness's eyes are the same. Thats what they mean. Maybe the Smash team sampled Valut Boy's eyes with Ness's eyes

  • @Isaac-M
    @Isaac-M 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, 45 minutes. This is going to be a great video! Keep it up as always 👍

  • @morcatna4767
    @morcatna4767 4 роки тому

    Nice video!!!!
    Thank you PapaGenos!

  • @theanvil7520
    @theanvil7520 4 роки тому +58

    The difference between Rex and Min Min is that Min Min was not sold as an additional Mii costume as DLC.
    Considering they bundled that Rex costume as the DLC bonus with the first fighters pass, and also how Nintendo have moved on from Xenoblade 2, to Xenoblade DE I would say that Rex is very very unlikely.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 4 роки тому +11

      It’s a shame we didn’t get Rex this game, maybe next game. I say this because Byleth contradicts their statement on Xenoblade 2 “being too late in development” to include him. Three houses was and is still not even a year old yet. Byleth is literally the Youngest character in Smash coming from a 2019 game.

    • @Luvvvvjayyyy
      @Luvvvvjayyyy 4 роки тому +2

      I've never played Xenoblade 2, but what if they make Mythra/Pyra her own character then?

    • @gorkmork4043
      @gorkmork4043 4 роки тому +12

      I don't really see either of these as valid reasons for Rex to not be in. The only reason he was put in as a mii costume was because they knew people wanted him in smash and they simply couldn't put him in due to time constraints. If anything, I think the costume gives him a better chance because they know people want him in. Beyond that, smash doesn't always pick characters from the most recent series entry. At the time of Ultimate's release, FE Echoes was the most recent FE game coming out in 2017. Yet they still added Chrom in from FE Awakening which came out in 2012-2013

    • @texanman7191
      @texanman7191 4 роки тому +2

      I'm surprised Xenoblade didn't get another representative. Since Nintendo has moved on to Xenoblade DE, I would think they would add Fiora, since she is a major character in the game (Heck, she was a playable character in Project X Zone 2, not Shulk.)

    • @RadiantBeachShulk
      @RadiantBeachShulk 4 роки тому +1

      All that said, XCDE is already represented with Shulk. XCDE is very likely to boost sales of XC2, especially given how important XC2 is to explaining XC1, so Rex and Pyra/Mythra are still very likely.

  • @kroutonjr
    @kroutonjr 4 роки тому +65

    I personally love zelda but i dont want another repeat character from zelda like another zelda when we got soo many other possibilities from zelda they could use

    • @jage6344
      @jage6344 4 роки тому +18

      I hate how we have 3 links and they all are clones. Like younglink should be from MM and have things from that game. Having the gilded sword and mirror shield would be nice too. He could use masks and shit but nope Just link again. Wish we could get someone like ghirahim or zant

    • @kroutonjr
      @kroutonjr 4 роки тому +7

      @@jage6344 yeah i agree wish young link could use different masks and kinda turn him into a pokemon trainer type deal and be like 3 characters in one (deku (light class), zora (medium class), and goron (heavy class).

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому

      No other characters outside of the main three would sell as a dlc. Anyone who think any character outside those three is popular is lying to themselves.

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому

      @@jage6344 Do you play Zelda games? Link from MM is the same one from OOT. Toon link from WW and hourglass and adult link is from breath of the wild. They are different links from different time lines not clones. Him, Zelda and ganon are the only characters that matter in the zelda franchise. Side characters don't matter nor are popular. You can hate it all you want that just the way things are.

    • @Quinhala11
      @Quinhala11 4 роки тому +4

      @@INFERNO95
      I think he meant Young Link should play more like MM's Young Link instead of OoT's Young Link.
      Yeah Link, Zelda and Ganon are the main characters of the series, but i don't see how that makes every other character "not matter".

  • @YoungBeanz
    @YoungBeanz 4 роки тому

    Damn was literally about to go to sleep but you know I can't miss an upload from Papa

  • @TLo1945
    @TLo1945 4 роки тому

    Great video, thanks for all you do for our community

  • @cosmicgem7775
    @cosmicgem7775 4 роки тому +9

    There is still hope for Shantae!

  • @luismartins2791
    @luismartins2791 4 роки тому +16

    Honestly I was glad heihachi appeared as a costume and not a fighter. I really rather have Loyd or a Soul Calibur char (probably nightmare)

  • @artorias6321
    @artorias6321 4 роки тому +2

    thanks for throwing the Sora theory at the end papa! been a while since I've seen you update on him. I hope Sora and Lloyd make it!

    • @hobonick8442
      @hobonick8442 4 роки тому

      Those are both my most wanted characters.

  • @luismartins2791
    @luismartins2791 4 роки тому +1

    Didn’t even notice it was a 40 min vídeo. That sakurai couch joke at the end was perfect XD

  • @owencromie8411
    @owencromie8411 4 роки тому +20

    Just had a bad thought about Mii costumes. What if Lloyd gets the deluxe mii treatment as a sword fighter with a music track. Would make sense y his mii costume hasn’t returned yet

    • @Smfsableye
      @Smfsableye 4 роки тому +9

      Lloyd can’t get the “deluxe” Mii treatment, because he has a human face that won’t work as a mask.
      The song is a possibility, though, if his normal Mii comes back.

    • @Twilight17Petkoton
      @Twilight17Petkoton 4 роки тому +3

      @@Smfsableye Yeah because he using two swords instead of one so Lloyd should be in Smash Ultimate better then Sora because he more Disney then Square Enix. Huge difference not the same that all.

    • @mrpizza_5139
      @mrpizza_5139 4 роки тому +3

      Geno makes more sense to be given the deluxe treatment

    • @rayman9118
      @rayman9118 4 роки тому +1

      @@Smfsableye Vault boy exist what do you mean and they don't have to change the mii costume

    • @RetroFurui
      @RetroFurui 4 роки тому

      Costumes not returning yet shouldnt be made into a big deal. We just got heihachi for example. We keep getting smash 4 costumes soon 2 years in. Sorry, but geno and lloyd will come like they did in smash 4.

  • @jk0345
    @jk0345 4 роки тому +3

    My personal ideal Fighter's Pass Vol. 2 (It's not meant to be realistic whatsoever, it's just who I would love to see personally be part of this pass):
    1. Min Min
    2. Sora
    3. Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia)
    4. Crash Bandicoot
    5. Doomguy
    6. Steve (Minecraft)

    • @elemomnialpha
      @elemomnialpha 4 роки тому +1

      I personally don't want Steve to be in and would prefer he just be a Mii costume, but it's a trade I would GLADLY take if it means Neptune gets in she's my most wanted character

  • @kadingarcia
    @kadingarcia 4 роки тому +3

    I hope on July 7th we get fighter 77 and it will be Sephiroth from Final Fantasy 7

  • @KingLAO2964
    @KingLAO2964 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video as always. Love your content. Stay healthy. I wish you a great day from Germany.

  • @SpomsMaghetti
    @SpomsMaghetti 4 роки тому +3

    I've commented on so many of your videos PapaGenos but my comments seem to never change, every time we get something new for Smash Brothers (Bamco related or not) Lloyds chances of being in only get better. As iv said in most videos you have made speaking about Lloyd i truly think this is his time. Please let it happen! We have waited so long!

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому

      Lloyd is to tales what cloud is to final fantasy. I don't see any other Namco character working as dlc.

  • @deoxysn310
    @deoxysn310 4 роки тому +10

    Two things
    1. Then talking about Cuphead Spirit, he did say that about future Mii Fighter Costumes and not future DLC fighters, which could point toward characters like Geno getting a Mii Fighter Costume.
    2. Dovahkiin from The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim could also very well happen. Nintendo loves Skyrim. It was shown in the Nintendo Switch reveal trailer and was a big inspiration for Breath of the Wild.

  • @___8241
    @___8241 4 роки тому +2

    Still easily the best smash speculation channel on UA-cam.

  • @crystalmclean5702
    @crystalmclean5702 4 роки тому

    Had to watch this vid again since it was so good

  • @lifesearch205
    @lifesearch205 4 роки тому +5

    Spongebob: This isn't color theory... this is...
    ADVANCED COLOR THEORY

  • @not2shabby
    @not2shabby 4 роки тому +4

    I am very curious to see how the rest of the second Fighter's Pass pans out.
    But holy shit, if that 7 Stars conspiracy theory pans out, that would be the most mind-blowing lead-up I've ever seen. I'm not counting on it even slightly, but if it does happen, that's kind of amazing.

  • @Jo__Ko
    @Jo__Ko 4 роки тому +1

    14:17 A Ribbon girl and Spring man mii costume was literally in the game since launch

  • @PlumEXE
    @PlumEXE 4 роки тому

    Yay Papa video at only 9 pm! Wow

  • @Zxcvbnmkj
    @Zxcvbnmkj 4 роки тому +27

    Heihachi: Becomes a costume
    Lloyd: Could I be the Namco rep?

    • @ArendAlphaEagle
      @ArendAlphaEagle 4 роки тому +2

      Watch them using Gilgamesh from Tower of Druaga

    • @terrysyvertson9205
      @terrysyvertson9205 4 роки тому

      @@ArendAlphaEagle gil will return as a mii costume

    • @terrysyvertson9205
      @terrysyvertson9205 4 роки тому

      @@mystixgemzvods sakurai said if he adds another bandai namco character it's going to be lloyd irving

    • @timlindenau3166
      @timlindenau3166 4 роки тому

      yes tales is the 3 Best grpg and hey final fantasty and dragon quest is in smash this is left the tales

    • @Zxcvbnmkj
      @Zxcvbnmkj 4 роки тому

      @@ArendAlphaEagle Gil would be pretty cool ngl

  • @audoodle9963
    @audoodle9963 4 роки тому +9

    I’m really not expecting a third pass. Not only do we have more new characters then smash 4 and as many as Brawl not counting echoes but also the dlc for smash is $55 right now. I don’t think Nintendo wants the story of smash to be “it’s a $60 game with $70-$80 DLC.” Especially because smash bros doesn’t go on sale and there’s no smash bros ultimate ultimate edition that gives you the dlc bundled in.
    By the way you showed a graphic of all the smash 4 dlc mii fighters and Tails is unchecked. That isn’t true the costume came back with Joker.

    • @criticalcreeps2274
      @criticalcreeps2274 4 роки тому

      Audoodle I think smash ultimate will get ported to next gen console and keep making dlc instead

  • @KyydWykkyd
    @KyydWykkyd 4 роки тому

    I’m glad I woke up early today to this long video. Personally longer vids are my favorite

  • @DeadTalkLive
    @DeadTalkLive 4 роки тому

    Nice clip ♥! As a current UA-camr, I am on the lookout for new ideas! Excellent Job!

  • @alexsc13
    @alexsc13 4 роки тому +4

    Just noticed the timer in the Mallow/Cacodemon video, oddly enough, it's stuck at 02:30, similar to the Ken leak

    • @Pokemonfan612
      @Pokemonfan612 4 роки тому +3

      I think people chalked that up as some sort of debug mode or something, something only for developers?

    • @alexsc13
      @alexsc13 4 роки тому +1

      @@Pokemonfan612 Probably, that's what I was thinking

  • @heehomgee4671
    @heehomgee4671 4 роки тому +12

    I only got xenoblade 2 the day after I got smash bros ultimate a couple years ago so I didn't have a connection to him at the time.
    2 years later and I've beaten the game twice, started another playthrough and am currently playing definitive edition.
    God I hope we get Rex.

  • @seththemage6029
    @seththemage6029 4 роки тому +1

    Another thing to add to the AT discussion that I don't think gets brought up very often. Ultimate already has a feature that disables certain ATs on certain stages, as well as certain bg elements not appearing depending on who is fighting in the match.
    For example, Moon on Great Bay, Knuckles on Green Hill, Klaptrap on Kongo Falls/Jungle Japes. They are already bg elements on those stages, so their AT appearance is disabled, and there are several more examples of certain AT + stage combinations being disabled. Dedede and Toon Link also disappear from the background of Dream Land and Spirit Train if they are fighting.
    This further hurts the AT argument because it shows that they could just disable the AT if that character is already in the match.

  • @HudsonU
    @HudsonU 4 роки тому +1

    This reminds me of early speculation. PapaGenos going back to his roots! (Ive been subbed around 5k ish)

  • @christianlopez707
    @christianlopez707 4 роки тому +5

    I know many people won't care but I think people are really sleeping on a Bravely Default character potentially getting added. Keep in mind that Bravely Default 2 was the only thing Nintendo announced at the game awards and even had some decent time dedicated to it in the direct. Its obvious that Nintendo and Square wanna draw attention to this game especially sense its suppose to come out this year.

    • @ffiiggyy
      @ffiiggyy 4 роки тому

      I'll welcome the rep with open arms. The game has great music and references FF: Four Heroes of Light.

    • @elemomnialpha
      @elemomnialpha 4 роки тому

      A Bravely character is imo the most likely pick from Square, then Neku because of the anime, he'd probably top them if they actually announced TWEWY2
      Even taking all the "7" talk into consideration I don't believe it matters but if it does it's not for Geno

  • @maikayee246
    @maikayee246 4 роки тому +5

    So basically when you say Min Min was chosen over Springman because mr Yabuki wanted it in order to justify assists trophies as a possibility. You are saying you should respect who the developers put into smash.
    In that case shouldn't everyone of you who wanted Waluigi, RESPECT the fact that Sakurai decided not to pick waluigi.

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому

      Wuluigi fans don't know the meaning of respect. The fanbase is trash.

  • @albertorodriguez3927
    @albertorodriguez3927 4 роки тому

    I think this is one of the only channels left to not clickbait shit and I just want to say I appreciate you

  • @devilmandotson5505
    @devilmandotson5505 3 роки тому

    That joke at the end about Sakurai's couch legitimately gave me a good laugh.

  • @MariotheAnimator
    @MariotheAnimator 4 роки тому +5

    I truly believing that Cacomallow leak at this point, the deal breaker is how clean the textures of the costumes are. I've seen videos of modded Mii costumes, even of mallow, but you can tell that the textures are lower quality. The modders themselves said that textures are the hard part.
    The fact that a low quality video shows pretty crispy textures on those Mii hats convince me they are the real deal. Geno will be fighter 7, Doomguy will be fighter 8 or later. And do you know how easy it is to lie in an interview, let alone an interview we only have TEXT from? Doomguy is totally coming, I have hope.

    • @Dadax9398
      @Dadax9398 4 роки тому

      I think its real too but they could have been (the costumes) scrapped afterward

    • @StarLeo_
      @StarLeo_ 4 роки тому +1

      Never say they Will be in the game, never give yourself that much hope

    • @MariotheAnimator
      @MariotheAnimator 4 роки тому

      @@StarLeo_ I can give myself all the hope I want, I got Banjo so I can't even be disappointed lol

  • @uppernimbus
    @uppernimbus 4 роки тому +55

    That "woke" Lloyd picture is hilarious.

    • @duelistdecoolest1893
      @duelistdecoolest1893 4 роки тому +10

      It warms my heart to see Lloyd looking menacing on a Papageno's thumbnail. Lloyd has been my most-wanted character since Brawl.

  • @jaediety
    @jaediety 4 роки тому +2

    I think the only thing Sakurai was hinting at with the Zelda Ganon design thing is that we WILL get amiibo with their updated designs. He said it in a very joking manor

  • @tempestink9053
    @tempestink9053 4 роки тому +3

    PapaGenos: *Sees one thing*
    Also PapaGenos: Coincidence, I think not

  • @EpTReaper
    @EpTReaper 4 роки тому +3

    Good AND long speculation? Sign me up

  • @kamatakun-1.0
    @kamatakun-1.0 4 роки тому +20

    Spirits for Fighters wishlist:
    -Geno
    -Rayman
    -Shante
    -Goomba(Just kidding)

    • @vigo2669
      @vigo2669 4 роки тому +3

      Well they did make Piranha Plant playable...

    • @thegoatedone4620
      @thegoatedone4620 4 роки тому

      Asura from asura should at least have a mention

    • @kamatakun-1.0
      @kamatakun-1.0 4 роки тому

      @@vigo2669 The Piranha Plant Spirit did not exist when the game released

    • @yanfeimain9135
      @yanfeimain9135 4 роки тому

      change rayman to bandana dee and were good

  • @TimelostFlare
    @TimelostFlare 4 роки тому +2

    Kinnikuman got a second breath of life as, some may know it "ULTIMATE MUSCLE!"

  • @renshospes6754
    @renshospes6754 4 роки тому +1

    While looking at the smash bros official website, i noticed on the european versions minmin's release date is stated to be the 30th. This means that the character once again is most likely coming out at what is midnight over the atlantic.

  • @rowanprogamer9023
    @rowanprogamer9023 4 роки тому +9

    I’m Totally excited For Min Min & I definitely agree with you We Will Get Five More DLC fighters Now I Don’t wanna get my hopes too high, I’m definitely on the road To See DLC 7 Revealed I don’t know Who’s Next It Might Be Geno, Shantae, rayman or Somebody Huge it might be a 3rd party guest character or first party fighter from Nintendo is A Agreement we will see until August so I think it’s a 50/50 Possibility Chance. it’s the truth 💯!

    • @rowanprogamer9023
      @rowanprogamer9023 4 роки тому +3

      It’s possible Chance I’m saying is A Guarantee will get The Next Smash DLC Fighter Very Soon In August

  • @Urlot
    @Urlot 4 роки тому +22

    HI PAPAGENO'S

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  4 роки тому +13

      Hi!!!

    • @Urlot
      @Urlot 4 роки тому +2

      @@PapaGenos I'm your fan :)

    • @StarForceBelmont321
      @StarForceBelmont321 4 роки тому +3

      @@PapaGenos Monolith Soft is able to use KOS-MOS when ever they want because she is joint nintendo and Namco. I think The ARMS creator requesting Min Min helps KOS-MOS's chances. Plus we still have the costume mod taken down

    • @Dara-up1pt
      @Dara-up1pt 4 роки тому +2

      Lol wholesome moment

  • @z.d.8986
    @z.d.8986 3 роки тому

    Listening to this after the Kazuya reveal yesterday. Boy, how Sakurai had us in the beginning with the Heihachi Mii Costume.

  • @FadedPhoenixYT
    @FadedPhoenixYT 4 роки тому +3

    Sakurai's couch might be the missing link we needed to clear up everything that's up in the air

  • @Bubbagaming90000
    @Bubbagaming90000 4 роки тому +16

    My fighter pass guess
    1.Min min
    2.Doom guy/Geno
    3.Crash
    4.Ryu Hayabusa
    5. IDK
    6.IDK

    • @DrErikNefarious
      @DrErikNefarious 4 роки тому +2

      As much as I'd like DoomSlayer, didn't he get deconfirmed when the guys who make DOOM stated no one from Smash/Nintendo ever approached them about bringing him in?

    • @guitaraobscura8802
      @guitaraobscura8802 4 роки тому +6

      I think we will get another Capcom rep like Dante, Phoenix Wright, or even Resident Evil since the spirit theory no longer exists

    • @chrisbarrera7202
      @chrisbarrera7202 4 роки тому +10

      @@DrErikNefarious Well the developer who said that worked for ID software which is underneath Bethesda. Here's the possibility
      1). His team doesn't know at all about doom guys chances since Bethesda are the higher ups and would be the ones working on that with Nintendo
      2) Could be lying to make it look like he's not coming in (Multiple devs and people have done this to)
      3) Genuinely telling the truth about him not being in

    • @thegreygoblin5165
      @thegreygoblin5165 4 роки тому

      My guess
      Min-Min
      Geno
      Lloyd
      Rayman
      Shantae
      Gen 8 Pokemon

  • @Lundcraft
    @Lundcraft 4 роки тому +5

    When it comes to Sakurai talking about Ganondorf and Zelda's designs, he could kinda hinting at old costumes coming back or/and new ones?

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому

      He was talking about amiibos, not Mii costumes.

  • @dillongeorge5866
    @dillongeorge5866 4 роки тому

    I’m so glad we can talk about spirits possibly being added as fighters now

  • @lukascoleman2328
    @lukascoleman2328 4 роки тому +2

    "Assist Trophies are not playable fighters" is not a fan rule. Sakurai himself said this very thing, almost verbatim, on Miiverse back in the Smash 4 days. The amount of people who overlook this is almost scary.

  • @misdrievousdemise3815
    @misdrievousdemise3815 4 роки тому +22

    Min Min's reveal did a number on increasing my hopes for several Spirit only characters, so my support for Shantae and Rayman has grown a bit as well. And I'll hope that Geno gets justice for his treatment in Smash too, hopefully as a fighter or a Deluxe Mii Costume at least.

  • @skiad9162
    @skiad9162 4 роки тому +4

    So uh... yeah 6 am...
    i mean i had insomnia before, but not this bad, thank you COVID, and thanks papa Genos, just what I needed to burn time!

  • @rusty8311
    @rusty8311 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Genos, do you know if there is any speculation still around Ryu Hayabusa? Wasn’t there that youtuber who said he was coming, and that youtuber predicted stuff like Piranha Plant?

  • @bobthegodofmemes2249
    @bobthegodofmemes2249 4 роки тому

    I was hoping this video would come

  • @thatoneaqua6243
    @thatoneaqua6243 4 роки тому +26

    Hoo boy, the fact Spirits don't deconfirm, the Cacomallow leak still holds up, and Vault Boy has shown us that Nintendo and Bethesda have spoke about Smash could all be hinting that both Geno and Doom Guy could hopefully join the roster. Lets hope our puppet boy will finally return in Smash Bros 🤞

    • @pegeta
      @pegeta 4 роки тому +5

      Yeah remember they lied about Banjo? Well they lied about Doom Slayer too, I mean come on Doom comes to switch around november 22nd, plus doom is getting major DLC too. An given the release time frame the 3rd character in the past is gonna be Crash or Doom Slayer, most likely Doom Slayer because of Nintendo History.

    • @cl0udyday297
      @cl0udyday297 4 роки тому +3

      Please don’t join Smash, Geno. For your sake. Please.

    • @ticoliro3392
      @ticoliro3392 4 роки тому +4

      What is geno history ? Realy anyone one Know?
      Realy people want geno because of a meme ?

    • @pablo.4011
      @pablo.4011 4 роки тому +5

      @@cl0udyday297 why not, whats ur problem with geno dude?

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 4 роки тому +5

      July 7th
      Fighter 77
      Challenger Pack 7
      Legend of the 7 Stars

  • @Yetibyte
    @Yetibyte 4 роки тому +6

    Shantae as a playable character would be awesome. I think she is such a cool and well designed character.

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf 4 роки тому +2

      Either shantae or Rayman, or better yet both.

  • @2cats867
    @2cats867 4 роки тому +1

    Heihachi was actually a guest character of PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale (Super Smash Bros. Sony Version).

  • @marcusmeng9427
    @marcusmeng9427 4 роки тому

    Great stuff! what video camera do you use for your videos and what editing software do you use as well?

  • @JcgLounge
    @JcgLounge 4 роки тому +6

    People are gonna get greedy and selfish regardless my friend. They’re gonna feel entitled. Even if this fighters pass was mostly amazing and filled with characters that people absolutely adored, they’re still gonna complain because “There’s no Crash! There’s no Rayman! There’s no Dante or Sora! We demand more!”
    Smash community needs to understand that this game is already a full package. We already got so much it looks beautiful. Bugging Sakurai and Nintendo for more would make us look ungrateful.

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому +4

      And THAT is EXACTLY my number one reason going around and talking big shit to them! Because they'll never shut the fuck up about Smash! And with a Spirit-turned-fighter, it's almost certain that fans are going to constantly complain long after Fighter's Pass Vol. 2. They'll demand hundreds of Spirits to become fighters and they'll never leave Nintendo and Sakurai alone, and they'll never EVER be satisfied. The Smash community is mostly ungrateful and overly zealous and much worse than they could make a guy like me out to be. I do not demand. I do not threaten. I simply stand up for Nintendo and Sakurai because they do NOT deserve ungrateful fans breathing down their backs until they get what they want. And even if they do, they won't be satisfied, as Sakurai puts it. They'll just want more, allowing their avarice to consume them.
      Smash Ultimate is already ultimate and you're right, JC. We have so much already. The one thing I'll ask for is for Mr. Sakurai to take a well-deserved break and stop working on Ultimate after this is over.

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому +1

      Well said.

    • @ffiiggyy
      @ffiiggyy 4 роки тому +4

      @@MetalZuko Still doesn't justify your harassment.

  • @q-tips9969
    @q-tips9969 4 роки тому +5

    Now that Min Min kills the spirits deconfirm rule, I have my hopes up for Geno. We’re rooting for you!

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому +1

      Square and Nintendo already decided on hero as dlc.

    • @Doracake
      @Doracake 4 роки тому

      what series is that?

  • @luvasgg
    @luvasgg 4 роки тому

    July 7th is the first possible day to celebrate Tanabata in Japan. It's also called the "Star Festival". Geno reveal for the 77th slot on 7/7 CONFIRMED.

  • @CometX-ing
    @CometX-ing 4 роки тому +2

    Master Chief fits the 7 spot since Bungie likes to reference the number 7 in their games and multiple times in Halo.

  • @lacendark
    @lacendark 4 роки тому +20

    LEGEND OF THE SEVEN STARS!!!!!!

    • @INFERNO95
      @INFERNO95 4 роки тому +1

      Take mario away and nobody care about that game.

    • @astraeus2524
      @astraeus2524 4 роки тому

      @@INFERNO95 you wrong for that🤣. Let them have there childhood

    • @pablo.4011
      @pablo.4011 4 роки тому +2

      @@INFERNO95 remove yourself from this comment section and no one would care

  • @ProtoPunk
    @ProtoPunk 4 роки тому +29

    I couldn't handle a third fighter pass.

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf 4 роки тому +23

      I can.
      I want there to be over 100 charicters that would be ultimate.

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому +7

      @@Sgt-Wolf Now... now, don't get greedy...

    • @fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771
      @fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771 4 роки тому +1

      No one's forcing you to buy it

    • @justvibes4910
      @justvibes4910 4 роки тому +2

      What if the 3rd pass was all echo fighters?

    • @jontayy6592
      @jontayy6592 4 роки тому

      Just Vibes I wouldn’t mind, I just want Rex as a fighter. If he was a echo for shulk that would be cool.

  • @mistermike4023
    @mistermike4023 4 роки тому +2

    Regarding Rex's Mii Costume, I don't think it means anything against him getting in. That costume was made as a conselation for not being able to get him in the base game. As such, it's very likely that the costume was made before they had even considered a second Fighter Pass. This would be similar to how all of the ARMS content we got in the base game, more specifically Spring Man as an Assist Trophy, was added because they couldn't include an ARMS character at the time, but now we have Min Min.

    • @Solibrae
      @Solibrae 4 роки тому

      Both ARMS and Xenoblade 2 had two Mii Fighter outfits before this next update, too (Spring Man & Ribbon Girl, Rex & Nia).
      The biggest difference between the two is that Xenoblade 2 has 3 music tracks, while ARMS suspiciously had none.

  • @MetalZuko
    @MetalZuko 4 роки тому +2

    Speculation is indeed widened once more, but if Geno ends up as a playable fighter, you can bet I'll check your reaction video to that. It'll be worth the price of admission to see you go wild with joy!

    • @rowanprogamer9023
      @rowanprogamer9023 4 роки тому

      Well to me is kinda boring , Well Like I said I told you Spirits Would Be Playable Min Min Is The Arms Rep

    • @MetalZuko
      @MetalZuko 4 роки тому +1

      @@rowanprogamer9023 You don't have to keep telling me that.