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  • Even MORE Speculation for what we might get if a BONUS Super Smash Bros Ultimate Fighter happened after the 2nd Fighters Pass!!! Also will Challenger Pack 10 be revealed at E3 or is "Calendar Theory" right and we'll get the next character released in May!!!
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  • @Yuzu_sans2
    @Yuzu_sans2 3 роки тому +235

    Theory names keep getting funnier and funnier to me

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +57

      The names of leaks and theories and leakers and all the wacky events through out a smash speculation cycles, I love it all haha. Seriously lots of fond memories of how funny smash speculation gets sometimes.

    • @Phemon1337
      @Phemon1337 3 роки тому +21

      @@PapaGenos Grinch Leak still takes the cake for me. It's almost as if The Grinch "stole" the fighters away from us :D

    • @Chernobog2
      @Chernobog2 3 роки тому +5

      Bathroom graffiti leak

    • @itsyaboiplantyboi
      @itsyaboiplantyboi 3 роки тому +5

      Things that come to mind is Chair Theory, Belt Theory, The Grinch Leak, and now Calender Theory

    • @KiloCreates0_0
      @KiloCreates0_0 3 роки тому

      True

  • @nesswednesday2976
    @nesswednesday2976 3 роки тому +84

    I can't believe it will be five years ago since the Gen 7 Concept Art leak happened

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 3 роки тому +11

      Yes like Decidueye
      Spirits: popplio, Primarina, Toucannon, Gumshoo, three form Lycanroc like midday and midnight 🕛 and dusk form Lycanroc, Tapu lele, Tapu fini, Tapu bulu, Blacpholon, buzzwole
      Music 🎵: Guzma theme, welcome 🙏 to Alola, Totom Pokémon battle, Lusamine theme, mother beast theme
      Stage: Ultra Wormholes

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +24

      time flies

    • @AwesomeMooseSmile
      @AwesomeMooseSmile 3 роки тому +10

      I still can't believe incineroar was leaked twice for both Pokémon AND smash

    • @guybrush20X6
      @guybrush20X6 3 роки тому

      I remember some really salty guy on Deviant Art pretending that he made the concept art as a fan concept that got picked up.
      Talk about rejecting reality and substituting your own.

  • @SuperGlaso
    @SuperGlaso 3 роки тому +221

    What’s next?
    Sakurai’s Sleeping Schedule Theory? 🤔

    • @FlamePurple
      @FlamePurple 3 роки тому +24

      Sleeping? What can you do when you Sleep...DREAM...
      OMG DREAMY LUIGI CONFIRMED 😳😳😳

    • @walterwhitemeth69
      @walterwhitemeth69 3 роки тому +4

      You can dream when you sleep... Dream confirmed!

    • @puzzledhypnoshroom1004
      @puzzledhypnoshroom1004 3 роки тому +3

      Na shark boy confirmed.

    • @Wallie33.
      @Wallie33. 3 роки тому +9

      @@FlamePurple Sora has a game called Kingdom hearts dream drop distance. Sora confirmed 😳.

    • @danemontgomery5635
      @danemontgomery5635 3 роки тому +1

      “Like modeling the bottoms of their feet”
      -sakurai
      theorist: DID YOU WRITE THAT DOWN !!!!!

  • @greenowl2834
    @greenowl2834 3 роки тому +119

    What if it’s a character Sakurai himself personally wanted and just because of that Nintendo gave him the ok?

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +56

      could be cool if he made a special request

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +36

      I’d be 100% fine with that, dude deserves to choose at least one DLC character!

    • @ultimax10doesgaming48
      @ultimax10doesgaming48 3 роки тому +24

      I feel like Joker or Terry fill that slot pretty well

    • @SassySprigatito
      @SassySprigatito 3 роки тому +17

      For some reason, I misread that as Sakurai putting himself into the game.

    • @greenowl2834
      @greenowl2834 3 роки тому +9

      @@ultimax10doesgaming48 I think that’s possible, but it’s simultaneously possible that Nintendo approached Sakurai saying “Pick a character from SEGA and SNK” and he picked those two, respectively.

  • @banjo-kazooie
    @banjo-kazooie 3 роки тому +175

    "Chun-Li is the most well known female character in gaming."
    Lara Croft didn't like that.

  • @Moon-nk3co
    @Moon-nk3co 3 роки тому +41

    I just hope that this maybe bonus fighter is it. Our man Sakurai really needs a break.
    Hell, he can go ahead and retire after this. I wouldn’t blame him.
    Touched the hearts of many with this game, which will never be replicated.

    • @PeiceofNick
      @PeiceofNick 3 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 роки тому +7

      Sakurai can work as much he feels like it, we can’t force him to stop until he feels he’s ready.

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 роки тому +2

      @Emmanuel Brijandez Torres
      Yes!

    • @ellie8272
      @ellie8272 3 роки тому +4

      You realize Sakurai can stop working whenever he wants, right? He chooses his schedule?
      If he wanted to work slower he could. Also most people kind of just work every day? Why is this different?
      Everyone seems to want him to "take a break" so bad and it just confuses me

    • @fearless3073
      @fearless3073 3 роки тому +1

      It's a mental thing where people idolize someone to the point of obsession.....just like Hollywood unfortunately

  • @theperians
    @theperians 3 роки тому +42

    2 in the same week.. this is good

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +5

      This isn’t good
      THIS IS AMAZING!

    • @kermitthesuperluigifan3938
      @kermitthesuperluigifan3938 3 роки тому +6

      @@IcyDiamond This isn't amazing...
      THIS IS INCREDIBLE!

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +3

      @@kermitthesuperluigifan3938 I haven’t seen you in a while my guy

    • @kermitthesuperluigifan3938
      @kermitthesuperluigifan3938 3 роки тому +3

      @@IcyDiamond I've actually seen you every where even in one of schaffs community post

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +6

      Theres a lot to talk about with this concept I knew it wouldnt all get covered in one video haha

  • @isakwolff5491
    @isakwolff5491 3 роки тому +10

    How people not realizing that it can (and most likely is) be "here can you buy al of the DLC in one bundle" is beyond me

    • @redgerran
      @redgerran 3 роки тому +2

      Honestly, my guess is that it was just a website url typo by some unpaid intern in the first place.

  • @Mineralsss
    @Mineralsss 3 роки тому +27

    Was not expecting another 30 MINUTES! 😁

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +6

      i didnt think itd be this long either but here we are

  • @winewash
    @winewash 3 роки тому +7

    Ngl that Crash and Spyro theory is the most exciting imo, despite recent news.

  • @Moustache_D_Luffy
    @Moustache_D_Luffy 3 роки тому +11

    I just had the work day from #311. Words can't express how refreshing it was to see a Smash speculation vid as soon as I clocked out and pulled up YT. Watching it now 🙏🏼

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +3

      I love 311 (actually my brothers a huge fan!) been to several concerts for them, good times!

  • @thegrumpygibbon
    @thegrumpygibbon 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks so much for talking about Calendar Theory! It's surreal to here a youtuber I've watched for ages talk about my silly theory!
    I do go over a couple of the points you bring up against calendar theory (Piranha Plant and whether they planned it all) in the video. But I think you're definitely right, it would be a huge shock if we got a new fighter announced before E3.

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +1

      its a good theory even with some holes in it, if we end up getting a fighter in May i could totally see E3 showing off the final fighter and them releasing in august so we are shockingly close to it working out!

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +1

      I’m so proud of you!

  • @bocaj71491
    @bocaj71491 3 роки тому +4

    Just got off work too a PapaGeno video, this is a great start to my weekend!

  • @broski7792
    @broski7792 3 роки тому +22

    Honestly, E3 is so significant that a character could be announced close to E3 and it doesn't mean there won't be a character AT E3. Two characters were announced 40 mins apart from each other in 2019, they don't have to be spaced apart.

    • @CrazyHand7894
      @CrazyHand7894 3 роки тому +4

      The problem isn't that they have to be spaced apart, but rather that there's no reason to reveal a character in a random date in may when an event as significant as E3 is so close. At that point, it'd be better if they revealed both.

    • @Stryfe52
      @Stryfe52 3 роки тому

      Why couldn’t it just be the one for May being announced and released in May, while the one for August is announced at E3 but released in August? If you want to adhere to calendar theory anyway

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +82

    I see Sandbag in the thumbnail and I’m imaging the reaction if he was actually revealed

    • @Joshua_Wings
      @Joshua_Wings 3 роки тому +8

      If the bonus character was sandbag, it would be the only “smash” rep for smash beside the mii fighters

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +1

      @@Joshua_Wings yes it would be!

    • @anonymoustroll2432
      @anonymoustroll2432 3 роки тому +1

      I want to die

    • @aggressivebuttonmasher5486
      @aggressivebuttonmasher5486 3 роки тому

      @@anonymoustroll2432 we know

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому

      @@anonymoustroll2432 why though?

  • @EmmureMARIO64
    @EmmureMARIO64 3 роки тому +12

    Right on time as I go for my hour lunch break!

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +2

      You’re always doing something when he uploads lol

    • @EmmureMARIO64
      @EmmureMARIO64 3 роки тому +2

      @@IcyDiamond Most of the time I'm at work when he uploads PT

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому

      @@EmmureMARIO64 where do you work?

    • @EmmureMARIO64
      @EmmureMARIO64 3 роки тому

      @@IcyDiamond some senior living home.

  • @Isaac-M
    @Isaac-M 3 роки тому +5

    Another 30 minute video, better get the snacks ready. Nice way to spend Friday night!

  • @maboichris6114
    @maboichris6114 3 роки тому +5

    It always puts a smile on my face when I get a new upload from 😁

  • @scamuel1896
    @scamuel1896 3 роки тому +3

    Mr. Sakurai outright confirmed once that Piranha Plant was planned for base roster.

  • @aggressivebuttonmasher5486
    @aggressivebuttonmasher5486 3 роки тому +6

    I really want to see a dual reveal trailer at e3 regardless of a bonus character. Like:
    Crash and spyro.(playstation mascots)
    Master chief and doomguy. (The fps showdown)
    Master chief and crash (hyping up a 'console war' theme)
    Demifiend and doomslayer (because demons)
    Dante and Demifiend (see above)
    I love the reveals that emphasize the crossover aspect (sephiroth, incineroar,hero, etc.) And I want more like that...

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +3

      I doubt they’re adding two Western characters imo

    • @aggressivebuttonmasher5486
      @aggressivebuttonmasher5486 3 роки тому +1

      @@IcyDiamond i agree, however I also have a hard time believing that master chief AND crash are within arms reach and sakurai not taking that opportunity.
      But regarding my comment I'm just spitballing concept ideas off of the crash and spyro comment in the video.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +1

      @@aggressivebuttonmasher5486 okay makes sense lol

    • @totalradlad
      @totalradlad 3 роки тому +1

      Dante and Demifiend also makes sense for another reason.

    • @aggressivebuttonmasher5486
      @aggressivebuttonmasher5486 3 роки тому +1

      @@totalradlad I'm so ashamed that didn't click for me when I typed it...

  • @saikog.
    @saikog. 3 роки тому +62

    I want Ayumi Tachibana now, since the series she came from has been remastered

    • @luisreyes1963
      @luisreyes1963 3 роки тому +10

      Much better than those creepy Chorus Kids. 😅

    • @TimelostFlare
      @TimelostFlare 3 роки тому +11

      Remember when Sakurai said he wanted Ayumi Tachibana for Melee? Well, now's the time. 😂

    • @UlvenK
      @UlvenK 3 роки тому +3

      Me too, just for the salt from the people and have a good laugh lol

    • @wallygator92
      @wallygator92 3 роки тому +4

      It would be interesting to see Ayumi join the roster she would be a Famicom and a light novel rep!

    • @raphaelmarquez9650
      @raphaelmarquez9650 3 роки тому

      Both FP2 and the FDC remakes were announced on the same day. It depends if Sakurai knew about the remakes in advance before deciding the characters for FP2.

  • @dankdude228
    @dankdude228 3 роки тому +5

    Your videos are always a highlight of the day papagenos!

  • @jollyjadentnt7963
    @jollyjadentnt7963 3 роки тому +2

    Your videos are always so informative! thanks!

  • @lilnemi
    @lilnemi 3 роки тому +6

    Imagine its subspace dlc

    • @alabamii
      @alabamii 3 роки тому +2

      I’d love that

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 3 роки тому +4

      And what if the subspace emmisary returns to smash ultimate as a DLC story mode called subspace emmisary 2 with 3DS and Wii U fighters and ultimate fighters

    • @solosergiohd
      @solosergiohd 3 роки тому +5

      DLC bosses
      Porky Minch
      Dr. Neo Cortex
      Duon
      Yellow Devil
      Eternatus
      Safer Sephiroth
      Tabuu

  • @drewdonewell2568
    @drewdonewell2568 3 роки тому +8

    Honestly Chun-Li and Eggman are my most wanted because Chun-Li is one of the most iconic video game women, and Eggman feels like one of our last villains that feels left out. I'm happy with whatever we may get though as we have so much content already it's insane!

  • @cpwcomputerplayerwill
    @cpwcomputerplayerwill 3 роки тому +18

    That melee painting in among us is a reference to the same painting in Henry stickmin’s Escaping the Airship

  • @Squiggles95
    @Squiggles95 3 роки тому +1

    Always a great day when you get a new PapaGenos video.

  • @CatherineKimport
    @CatherineKimport 3 роки тому +19

    Watch FP12 be Segata Sanshiro just to troll the entire world

    • @dreamminecraftandplanes
      @dreamminecraftandplanes 3 роки тому +2

      I would like Segata Sanshiro to atleast have an appearance. He's a legendary sega character

  • @justinjyeung
    @justinjyeung 3 роки тому +7

    King Boo being my favourite Mario character would make me so happy if he actually made it, even if there are tons of more deserving choices LOL

  • @parkwayninja41
    @parkwayninja41 3 роки тому +14

    I would love if the pass ended and character 12 was an echo of character 11. Not in the same way as richter or Daisy though where it’s basically the same character, but more like Ken to Ryu where the characters are similar but still noticeably different. Something like Sora with a Riku echo or Phoenix Wright with a Miles Edgeworth echo.

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 роки тому

      Why not Sora and Roxas?

    • @parkwayninja41
      @parkwayninja41 3 роки тому

      @@squallleonhart9387 because what I’m saying is if they were fairly different but still close enough to be echoes. Like how Ken and Ryu are pretty much different characters but still echoes. I think Roxas would be too close to Sora, but Riku is still a Keyblade master with similar magic but his own abilities.

    • @jpcytus5959
      @jpcytus5959 3 роки тому

      They say fuck it and give us Sakura from street fighter, the lore equivalent echo of Ryu. Anything to get Precious heart music track in the game pls

    • @SlowZetta
      @SlowZetta 3 роки тому

      I don’t see Sora w Riku as an echo working. Every echo so far has had near identical stances where as Sora and Riku’s distinct stances are iconic traits of theirs

    • @parkwayninja41
      @parkwayninja41 3 роки тому

      @@SlowZetta Peach/Daisy, Samus/Dark Samus and the Byleths, which are alts all have different stances.

  • @nekow1785
    @nekow1785 3 роки тому +1

    Gonna dig into this while I study drums. Good stuff!

  • @BladeShadowWing
    @BladeShadowWing 3 роки тому +6

    While Calender theory seems very plausible, I feel like we'll just have to wait till E3 before we get the next fighter announcement. Plus, (not that I'm saying a character should only be revealed in directs) it would imply we would get a Direct before E3, and I don't think Nintendo would do that.

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +2

      agreed i believe e3 is probably the next time we'll get major smash news

    • @kristianhammond9348
      @kristianhammond9348 3 роки тому

      @@PapaGenos I think so too however, there's has been around 70 days gap between the release of Steve, Sephiroth, and Pyra/Mythra which actually does link to the calendar theory. If that comes to play, then we could expect DLC 10 to release on May 13th. But if I do another 70 days after that date, it would be on July 22nd (for DLC 11) which may or may not be a deal-breaker for the calendar theory but we just have to wait and see.

  • @Gay_Nerd99
    @Gay_Nerd99 3 роки тому +11

    Sakuri himself would be so funny though

  • @TheTallestGiraffe
    @TheTallestGiraffe 3 роки тому +19

    I pray this bonus fighter is setting up for Waluigi, where the joke is he's late to the party or something.

  • @ultimax10doesgaming48
    @ultimax10doesgaming48 3 роки тому +6

    The new Amoung Us map is based on the airship from the Henry Stikmin games made by the same developer. Henry Stikmin has a ton of references to different games including smash so this doesn't mean much

  • @Zaabi
    @Zaabi 3 роки тому +5

    Favorite type of videos

  • @christianz4230
    @christianz4230 3 роки тому +3

    I just finished your last video like 2 hours ago and now I can watch a new one :3

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +2

      good timing haha

    • @christianz4230
      @christianz4230 3 роки тому

      @@PapaGenos I know right?

    • @christianz4230
      @christianz4230 3 роки тому

      @@PapaGenos I basically did the calendar theory to myself when I saw the theory I was surprised because I was thinking about the same thing recently :3

  • @pedrojackson8416
    @pedrojackson8416 3 роки тому +3

    Bundle with 4 echos to Square the character select and 3 returning Stages to Square the stage select!!!!

    • @morcatna4767
      @morcatna4767 3 роки тому

      That would be a delight 👏👏👏

  • @JohnDoe-wl6qe
    @JohnDoe-wl6qe 3 роки тому +1

    Great video men, i was thinking, would you be interested about reading on "new" concepts that smash could implement and that also are not that much of a pain while using most of the things in the game? I wanted to make a vídeo on these concepts, but i don't know anything on video editing, but i really want to see these concepts in discussion in the community.
    I think that we should start talking about what we want and need next for the franchise, since se are getting closer to the the dlc's ending. SO much could be done that is technically "easier" and could add so much to the franchise

  • @officialsambrown95
    @officialsambrown95 3 роки тому +1

    Loved this theory great job

  • @yellowletters9465
    @yellowletters9465 3 роки тому +7

    Though I dont expect it in the slightest, hell I dont even expect one of them. Finishing on both Master Chief AND Doomguy? My god

  • @meroyant4374
    @meroyant4374 3 роки тому +4

    Papa I just realized we have the same Kirby plush 🥺✌️

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +3

      nice! my sisters got me that one

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +3

      I have a big Kirby plush but it’s not that one

    • @meroyant4374
      @meroyant4374 3 роки тому +1

      @@IcyDiamond Kirby plushes make the world go round

    • @LleytonSPD
      @LleytonSPD 3 роки тому +1

      @@meroyant4374 **very round**

  • @Carlete17
    @Carlete17 3 роки тому +1

    I love these videos and Papas!

  • @connorbeith3232
    @connorbeith3232 3 роки тому +7

    About the TFB situation, I heard it's not just them but every Activsion studio. And that's what's really getting me worried about Crash and Spyro.

    • @aggressivebuttonmasher5486
      @aggressivebuttonmasher5486 3 роки тому +2

      It definitely sucks but tbh, id rather have an ip dissappear then run itself into the ground and get ruined

    • @connorbeith3232
      @connorbeith3232 3 роки тому +1

      @@aggressivebuttonmasher5486 I guess, but this particular situation was kinda jarring because the future for both series seemed pretty bright before this.

  • @NABBIT2000
    @NABBIT2000 3 роки тому +23

    I was watching a video when I got this notification. I’ve never clicked so fast in my life.

  • @SpazzerMcFly
    @SpazzerMcFly 3 роки тому +4

    The idea of the 12th fighter being an echo would line up with Sakurai saying there are 2 more Sakurai Presents

  • @toomuchwqves
    @toomuchwqves 3 роки тому

    Hey PapaGenos! I just want to start off by letting you know that I love your videos and I want to note out something that I noticed a month ago. So my speculation or theory is that FP Vol. 2 has a sort of “2nd chance” theme. So first off with Min Min, she is a character from ARMS which is a game that was considered to have a character in base game, but due to development time, a ARMS character didn’t get in base game. So I guess you can say that this was a 2nd chance to have a ARMS character in the game. I think u can see where this is going. Next with Steve, he is a character that was negotiated for 5 years and that finally got in. So FP2 was a 2nd chance to add Minecraft content after years of negotiations. Then with Sephiroth, he is a character from FF7, a game that was lacking representation in base game with spirits and music. So Sep, basically was a 2nd opportunity to rep FF7 better. And lastly (so far) with Pyra/Mythra, they are from Xenoblade Chronicles 2, a game that was ALSO considered to have a character in base game. But ended up getting music, spirits and a Rex Mii costume. So P/M gave a 2nd chance to rep XC2 better. With this pattern, I think we could get a better guess at what the next fighter(s) could be. There was that ‘rumor’ about a 5 year plan for Crash, which had the year 2021 as Crash for Smash. Which makes me think that Nintendo negotiated with Activision 5 yrs ago so they could get Crash in Smash. Steve was negotiated for 5 yrs, which means they both could have been negotiated at the same time. Just some speculation though.

  • @yotsuba5181
    @yotsuba5181 3 роки тому +2

    Piranha Plant isn't a "challenger pack" because the Challenger Packs were promised to include songs, spirits and a stage along with the fighter. if the bonus fighter is in the same style of Piranha Plant, they wouldn't be considered "Challenger Pack 12"

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +1

      good point good point still weird they numbered them not as how many dlc characters but as challenger packs i guess

  • @ethanryan4188
    @ethanryan4188 3 роки тому +14

    Yes, a surprise Part 2!!!

  • @bupboi6412
    @bupboi6412 3 роки тому +4

    About the among us thing, the airship map actually comes from the henry stickmin franchise(another game made by one of the devs of among us), and the original game also had the final destination painting, so it would be in the map even if there was collaboration between sakurai and innersloth

  • @ClownPuncher139
    @ClownPuncher139 3 роки тому +2

    Here’s an interesting theory, unlikely as it is. The URLs for the fighters follow a pretty recognizable pattern. I think we could see if there’s a possibility for a FP3 by typing 700500000*2*xxxx. If someone’s dedicated enough to type out every single combination of 4 numbers, we could find out the possibility of FP3. I think it’s still very unlikely, but I can’t shake the URL pattern!

  • @monochromememory8275
    @monochromememory8275 3 роки тому

    I'm quite a bit late to this but something I've also noticed that certainly supports the idea of an extra fighter is that on the Spirits List for fighters. There's just enough space to fit three more slots.

  • @gioanysgonzalez3396
    @gioanysgonzalez3396 3 роки тому +6

    I hope the bonus character is something out of nowhere like how Piranha Plant was. Kind of like a “WHAT!?!” Character. Still hoping for Reimu.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому

      I’m trying to think of a character that would be more surprising than Piranha Plant

    • @gioanysgonzalez3396
      @gioanysgonzalez3396 3 роки тому

      @@IcyDiamond there’s tons of characters that could be a fun surprise like Chris/Jill from the Resident Evil series would cool as a horror character, Shantae being a popular indie character, or even something stupid like a Tetris block just for laughs.

    • @wackydelightful4027
      @wackydelightful4027 3 роки тому +1

      What about a Atari character in the same vain as Mr game and watch.

    • @gioanysgonzalez3396
      @gioanysgonzalez3396 3 роки тому

      @@wackydelightful4027 That could work too. I think Frogger could work since it’s like another old school character.

    • @wackydelightful4027
      @wackydelightful4027 3 роки тому +1

      @@gioanysgonzalez3396 indeed

  • @GaiashKetoji
    @GaiashKetoji 3 роки тому +6

    If we did get Chun-Li I’d want her to come with new music so Street Fighter could finally have music from outside of Street Fighter II in the game. Maybe her stage could be from Street Fighter Alpha or III.

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 роки тому

      THIS*

    • @jpcytus5959
      @jpcytus5959 3 роки тому

      Omg I’ve be been wanting Precious Heart in the game since foreverrrr. Hell even just Sakura theme in general, just more alpha and some 4 and 5 renditions of songs, like I would love the new recent rose theme to be in smash

  • @XDarkAlphaZ13
    @XDarkAlphaZ13 3 роки тому +1

    Wow another Speculation video already PapaGenos your really starting to spoil us :)

  • @Andycandyman24
    @Andycandyman24 3 роки тому +2

    One thing i wished you'd talked about on what the missing url could be is the possibility that its World of light dlc or a new store mode entirety. I've seen a lot of people throw around this possibility and i would like to see what you would have to say on the possibility of this happening.

  • @sirparker2881
    @sirparker2881 3 роки тому +6

    I know I always say this, but I never expect your uploads

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +1

      they are kinda random, its just whenever i finish them i upload haha no point in waiting in case something new happens with smash speculation and suddenly the video is outdated info so i upload asap and thats never a consistent time

  • @pengoschwortz4734
    @pengoschwortz4734 3 роки тому +4

    Man I’m gonna miss these theory videos when smash speculation finally ends

    • @kingleonidas2182
      @kingleonidas2182 3 роки тому

      In a perfect world, all the speculators would move into making shorts/movies with smash ultimate. They’ve got the tools in the game itself. All they need is the creativity to make a narrative. And I think they all have it.

  • @ArendAlphaEagle
    @ArendAlphaEagle 3 роки тому +2

    One thing about Calendar Theory and Piranha Plant: Plant was released in late January *for early buyers of Smash Ultimate,* for free. Piranha Plant did not get publicly purchasable for the rest that missed this offer until *February 1st,* meaning that this is possibly Piranha Plant's official release date, making him still the February rep. It's similar to how Sephiroth's official release date is December 23, but people could play as him early as of December 18.

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +2

      yeah and February was the original estimate date they gave

  • @MrBoochris
    @MrBoochris 3 роки тому +1

    And almost 3 years later, papagenos videos still spark a cord in my brain when I see a new video of his uploaded 👍
    Edit: also if there’s a luigis mansion 3 character it would definitely be egadd hahaha I remember people were speculating that a while back

  • @mcmrco7327
    @mcmrco7327 3 роки тому +3

    i was so bored thank you for uploading

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +1

      youre welcome enjoy!

  • @MrJWTH
    @MrJWTH 3 роки тому +6

    I doubt it’s another ballet since that would mean they haven’t even started to work on a hypothetical 12th fighter yet.

    • @redgerran
      @redgerran 3 роки тому

      The Smash team started working on Bayonetta a week after the ballet came out, and since we're on track to have all the DLC finished by September (when we were told the pass would end at the end of December), it makes sense.

    • @MrJWTH
      @MrJWTH 3 роки тому

      @@redgerran There is evidence that she was chosen months before the ballot was finished www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/07/rumour_your_super_smash_bros_ballot_votes_might_not_have_been_used_for_smash_4s_dlc.

  • @cosmicgem7775
    @cosmicgem7775 3 роки тому +31

    Literally nobody is talking about Shantae and Rayman! They were both spirits in the base game and are both wanted by the companies that own them! They both seem very likely and I am surprised nobody is talking about them givin how popular they are!

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +2

      Do you commit crimes with both direction and magnitude?

    • @luisreyes1963
      @luisreyes1963 3 роки тому +1

      Nah, the Weeaboos are still crying for junk like Dr. Eggbutt or Bandana Waddle Dee. 😫

    • @t-real7088
      @t-real7088 3 роки тому +1

      They "were" both spirits, no, they "are" both spirits and are most likely going to stay like that for now, maybe on Smash 6.

    • @bastian8271
      @bastian8271 3 роки тому +2

      @Drew Baxter im surrounded by assholes!

    • @esrever6948
      @esrever6948 3 роки тому +4

      @@luisreyes1963
      dr. eggman and bandana dee are scrimblo bimblos,not weeb characters.
      atleast insult them right.

  • @luisz0339
    @luisz0339 3 роки тому +1

    I wish there was someone like you in the Sonic community :'l

  • @KyydWykkyd
    @KyydWykkyd 3 роки тому +6

    To this day I don’t understand why more echoes weren’t made. Wish they reused some of the custom moves from smash 4 to make em. Ofc I have no idea how hard that’d be but I think they could’ve figured something out. I hope they utilize echoes to their maximum potential later on in the future.

    • @alexanderosorio8647
      @alexanderosorio8647 3 роки тому

      Because no one would be hyped for them?

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 роки тому

      Two reasons:
      1. Sakurai knew they were too unbalanced and balancing them would require more work.
      2. Most changes didn't have anything to do with the characters so it would have been too unfitting.
      But even then Juan Rodriguez Balancing specials for 5 characters isn't that big of a deal, specially given how many changes ultimate made already
      I checked it myself and at least 3/4 moves per character with an echo are different enough that it would be worth it

    • @yellowletters9465
      @yellowletters9465 3 роки тому

      I 100% agree. Proto Man is the biggest missed opportunity. Mega Mans custom moves were just different moves, Proto Man could have taken up them and felt really different.

    • @KyydWykkyd
      @KyydWykkyd 3 роки тому

      @@alexanderosorio8647 hype is very subjective. We can see that whenever any character is announced. I don’t mean add them as dlc and attempt to get people hyped either. I mean simply including them from the base roster in the future

    • @alexanderosorio8647
      @alexanderosorio8647 3 роки тому

      @@KyydWykkyd i added this here:? because idk

  • @quack9pm
    @quack9pm 3 роки тому +4

    Hey can we get a playlist of all your videos so i can binge watch them when smash speculation is over

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +3

      maybe i can set them up that way, I didnt know people would want that and not just click through the video list

    • @quack9pm
      @quack9pm 3 роки тому

      @@PapaGenos i could be the only one, me and the people liking my comment

    • @cobinasaur
      @cobinasaur 3 роки тому

      Just make a playlist with 2 speculation videos and you basically have a playlist with all of them plus some overlap.

    • @squallleonhart9387
      @squallleonhart9387 3 роки тому

      You can never have enough @@PapaGenos😌

  • @MeltySolid
    @MeltySolid 3 роки тому +1

    Okay, so this will 1000% never happen, but my wildest dream for a double reveal trailer for smash has always been this: It starts with Doomguy, he does his thing starting on a Mars base or something and he has his gameplay segement, ending with him standing over a bunch of demons in hell. Then all of a sudden you hear a rattling chain and a voice shout, "GET OVER HERE!" Doomguy meeting Scorpion in hell sounds like the actual coolest thing ever, but I don't see Scorpion happening in general, let alone in a combined trailer with Doomguy. It's still so much fun to think about these crazy crossover situations.

  • @maazhaque7758
    @maazhaque7758 3 роки тому +2

    Wow! Two videos so close, definitely been a while! Well, I know it hasn't been too long of a time since I last asked you, but how's it going Papagenos?

  • @toyjesus
    @toyjesus 3 роки тому +15

    King Boo is actually the Nintendo character I want most in smash.

  • @gobblenachname3880
    @gobblenachname3880 3 роки тому +5

    If the Bonus Fighter ends up being a Pokemon and that Pokemon ends up being Grovyle from the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games I will shout, laugh and cry at the same time.
    Won't happen but damn it would be so sick.

  • @JohnboyTheGamer
    @JohnboyTheGamer 3 роки тому +2

    If we are getting a bonus fighter, then a reveal in May and the final reveal along with the bonus can happen

  • @123mattdale16
    @123mattdale16 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Papa, just want your opinion on something!
    Could an ArcSystem Works character like Sol Badguy be possible for the Fighters Pass? ArcSystem Works does have Spirits within the game with River City Ransom characters, and they've had a pretty decent track record of releasing games on the switch!

  • @Shadic960
    @Shadic960 3 роки тому +8

    2 minutes this has been uploaded, Sonic speeding to this vid

  • @ninjakombatant9722
    @ninjakombatant9722 3 роки тому +12

    Eggman: Woohoohoo! I've waited a long time for this!😎🙏

  • @Zero1Zero1
    @Zero1Zero1 3 роки тому

    Could it be possible there were originally 7 fighters planned for this pass, website was done but due to Covid they decided to cut it to 6 and the website was just not changed?

  • @purplegorilla4386
    @purplegorilla4386 3 роки тому +1

    I don’t know if that’s just my copy of the game, but I was playing SSBU and I noticed that all of the event spirits after Peachette don’t have their respective images. Instead they have the spirit logo replacing their image.

  • @RitoReyes2033
    @RitoReyes2033 3 роки тому +3

    i will say this its geno i strongly believe and yes i know he is a mii costume, but they have really stated that they would have updated mii costumes like rex for one. thats my option

  • @takodacorliss5838
    @takodacorliss5838 3 роки тому +21

    New PapaGeno’s Let’s Rock!

  • @ryandennis8172
    @ryandennis8172 3 роки тому +1

    Perhaps the missing URL slot is world of light expansion for dlc characters?

  • @silverclue2630
    @silverclue2630 3 роки тому +2

    cranky kong would also be a cool surprising yet also logical character to add as a ''final fighter'',
    considering how well the addition of k.rool went and how it's donkey kongs 40th anniversary later this year,
    with cranky being the ''original donkey kong'' it would make for a funny homage to nintendos history.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому

      I would unironically love that!

  • @phantasmwolvez4095
    @phantasmwolvez4095 3 роки тому +12

    If that theory of a Fighter #11 comes with an echo comes true. I be cool with Crash & Coco, Lloyd & Yuri, Dante & Vergil. Not sure about the concept of Tails and Knuckles. Another cool suggestion is Sora and Riku or Sora and Roxas

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +5

      a friend of mine has roxas as her most wanted so shed be happy with that haha

  • @Atlasthechad
    @Atlasthechad 3 роки тому +3

    If it's a fighter then it's probably a fighter from a series already in smash

  • @mrSatern100
    @mrSatern100 3 роки тому +1

    I would love to see Master Hand as the final bonus fighter. He has a lot of moveset potential so it would definitely be cool to see if that's the case

  • @MJthomas1987
    @MJthomas1987 3 роки тому +2

    I dont think its a mistake of a url only because when you try other random numbers you get webpage not found and for this specific one its webpage not available yet or something along those lines so i do think we’ll get something fighter or otherwise

  • @moonsider9293
    @moonsider9293 3 роки тому +7

    No idea why he keeps insisting on Lloyd and Yuri as echoes of one another. They don't fight, act, or look anything like one another.

    • @djbubblegum9975
      @djbubblegum9975 3 роки тому +3

      Oh didn't you know? If they're a character from Japan and they use a sword then they're obviously exactly the same

  • @fabiomora6491
    @fabiomora6491 3 роки тому +3

    Question; is the speculation speculative?

  • @scottriddell3514
    @scottriddell3514 3 роки тому +1

    Is there any chance we can get a fighter pass 3 because there is a chance we will get a good suppirsed and crash could be in it

  • @Princess_Ozma
    @Princess_Ozma 3 роки тому +1

    So going on about a bonus fighter, I have to think Namco could be a bit different they are working on Smash and I'm pretty sure they have said something about not needing a fighter this time around. If they are getting profits from helping make the game I could see them handing over a fighter to give out as a bonus saying that they don't need a stage or music. I could also see Sakurai giving them an extra fighter as a thank you for all the hard work they've done on both games. Someone like Lloyd Yuri Heihachi or Ms. Pacman as an echo (weird rights issues aside) as a bonus fighter wouldn't shock me in the least bit.

  • @raymanic7603
    @raymanic7603 3 роки тому +7

    Hoping that any of the fighter packs are Rayman and Doom Guy 🙏🙏🙏

  • @toasterwaffle016
    @toasterwaffle016 3 роки тому +10

    It's a two part trailer. You have Steve and Banjo fighting Snake and Cloud. Xbox vs Playstation. Obviously Steve and Banjo are losing because they are against some of the best fighters in gaming. Then from the sky comes Master Chief to save his Xbox brethren. The day is saved and we leave the trailer. Whenever they choose to do the next reveal, Snake and Cloud come back for revenge, but with their backup, Crash Bandicoot. It would be a difficult trailer but it would be a perfect way to reveal the last two characters, being basically the most highly requested and deserving characters.

    • @alexanderosorio8647
      @alexanderosorio8647 3 роки тому +1

      I highly doubt we will have 3 western reps i think only crash will be in but it's a good trailer idea

    • @toasterwaffle016
      @toasterwaffle016 3 роки тому

      @@alexanderosorio8647 I know. But one can dream

    • @alexanderosorio8647
      @alexanderosorio8647 3 роки тому

      @@toasterwaffle016 yes

  • @Anon893
    @Anon893 3 роки тому

    Haven't watched the video yet but I feel like calendar theory is like Color theory 2.0 in that it will hold up 90% of the way but will fall apart when the next two characters are revealed. Interested in hearing your thoughts PG!

  • @Elite_Teach
    @Elite_Teach 3 роки тому +1

    For some reason listening to your intro is better than the actual song

    • @PapaGenos
      @PapaGenos  3 роки тому +2

      its the anticipation of whats to come

  • @GoldenGoomba900
    @GoldenGoomba900 3 роки тому +3

    I hope, in my heart, that Agumon can get in but I still doubt it.

  • @vanessasandoval96
    @vanessasandoval96 3 роки тому +3

    Oh gee I hope Sakurai will announce fighter pass 3 when challenger pack 11 is going to happen

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond 3 роки тому +1

      Sakurai needs a break after Fighters Pass 2 lol

    • @thebowserdude
      @thebowserdude 3 роки тому

      @@IcyDiamond he can take a break every time he wants to

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 3 роки тому +1

      @@Marcelo-rs8yh no I can’t believe me ok

  • @richie404
    @richie404 3 роки тому

    This was some great speculation.

  • @LucarioShirona
    @LucarioShirona 3 роки тому +1

    Something else to consider about Crash Bandicoot situation, mainly the lay offs at Toys for Bob. This shouldn’t hurt the franchise as Activision has already announced big plans this year, and the possibility of the next games being worked by another developer, maybe Beenox as they helped in development of Crash 4 and were head in developing CTR Nitro Fueled.

    • @solosergiohd
      @solosergiohd 3 роки тому +2

      Same :)
      #CrashForSmash
      #SmashBrosUltimate
      #CrashBandicoot
      #E32021

    • @X2011racer
      @X2011racer 3 роки тому

      Activision said the same about Skylanders and look at what happened. Didn't even last 10 years like they said. The same can be said about Crash, because the bigwigs can change their minds anytime, and now, they now show no further interest in Crash and perhaps canceled their "big plans" for the series.
      And regarding Beenox, they are also working on Warzone as well; You can see their logo on startup after the Infinity Ward logo.

    • @LucarioShirona
      @LucarioShirona 3 роки тому

      @@X2011racer plans would only fall flat depending on the business. For Skylanders case, Toys come to Life idea was slowly started to fade out when other companies try to get in and took the concept too far. Crash Bandicoot so far hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down yet and so far each game has been developed by different game devs. And PapaGeno did address why these current event shouldn’t harm Crash’s chances, which is why I mentioned Beenox.

  • @reimuhakureiforsmash6115
    @reimuhakureiforsmash6115 3 роки тому +5

    Another 30 minute video already? Well that's a nice surprise.

  • @cyberfilmproductions8987
    @cyberfilmproductions8987 3 роки тому +23

    What if the "Bonus fighter" url is literally just a typo.

  • @jazzyfuture
    @jazzyfuture 3 роки тому

    Hey PapaGenos, I just thought of something.
    So in Age of Calamity, one of the few non DLC or amiibo outfits from Breath of the Wild not available is the Ancient Armor. Probably because Robbie wouldn't have Cherry or any Ancient Oven to make it yet, just like the other ancient gear so it wouldn't make sense in the story yet.
    However, there is going to be a bonus Link outfit and weapon for people who preorder the Age of Calamity season pass, and the trailer for it showed Ancient weapons made by Robbie's Ancient Oven alongside Robbie and Purah, who are almost definitely the DLC characters.
    It would make sense to give Link the Ancient Armor and one of the oven weapons as a bonus to tie in with the theme of the researchers, as the Royal Ancient Tech Lab is one of the few things we know about the AoC DLC.
    It's a bit strange how the bonuses for 2 different DLC passes could be the Ancient Armor, isn't it? Personally I don't think it means much because they probably would have saved the Age of Calamity spirit event for a character from the BotW Trilogy, but I'm also not Sakurai so who knows. Could mean something though.
    Now while we're talking about Zelda spirit events being saved for later... Cadence of Hyrule *still* doesn't have one (or even a mii costume) after nearly 2 years, and the Link's Awakening HD spirit event happened the week of Cadence of Hyrule's release, making it the only spirit event (that I can think of) to happen months before the release of the game it was promoting. Almost like they bumped out Cadence of Hyrule's event for later while deciding FP2.
    ...alright I'll stop being the single person who speculates about Cadence in Smash, for now at least. haha

  • @michaelpietri9471
    @michaelpietri9471 3 роки тому +1

    The echo fighter at the end being possibly an echo for the last fighter gives me hope for scorpion and sub-zero.