Are these the best ARC settings for the Anthem MRX1140? - Home Theater #8
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2021
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In this video, I try out even more suggestions from some folks at the Anthem Audio Facebook Group ( / 2396717513953662 ) as well as a suggestion from a commenter on one of my videos (NightWave) linking to an AudioAdvice article. Also some things I saw in other videos. I walk through the entire process so definitely check out the time stamps below.
Audio Advice Article: www.audioadvice.com/videos-re...
Yves guide: drive.google.com/file/d/1YrLP...
00:17 Introduction
00:31 Thanks
02:36 Quick summary
03:32 Checking for updates
04:17 Removing ARC file
04:32 Checking the levels
05:02 Adjusting the volume
05:17 EQ and level matching subwoofers
06:49 Launching ARC for calibration
07:55 Calibration and mic positioning
10:07 Reviewing adjustments
10:59 Confirming ARC upload
11:07 Double-checking the levels
12:14 Adding some room gain
12:25 Adjusting the subwoofers
12:48 The final speaker levels
13:31 Creating the inputs
14:25 Dolby Atmos Demo
15:27 Closing thoughts
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Hope this was helpful but would appreciate any other tips and suggestions.
It certainly did. video on this is rare. hope to see more on this so people get more familiar with all the tips and tricks with ARC and web ui.
Really curious about the mic placements. I have been doing a 10 location calibration where the front of the couch was 6” lower than listening position, middle plane was the same height as the first measurement, and behind the couch was 6” higher than the first measurement. I honestly dont have any confidence in what im doing, but that is how i interpreted Yves doc.
@@zatara5299 Thanks, I have gotten some other suggestions and planning on doing some additional tests based on those suggestions.
@@zachb6328 Yeah, I've been getting some different suggestions on the mic placements and I'm going to try the suggestion of doing lower in front and higher in back. I haven't done the 10 location placement though. However, I may try that and then compare between the different options. The good thing about ARC is it's capable of saving the files to switch between them. Will keep you posted!
@@RandomDistractionsYT lowering the peaks also lowers the nulls which are harder to correct with ARC than the peaks are
Thanks for being brave enough to do these videos. My experience with the MRX1120 was certainly a lot different coming from a Denon flagship AVR. The sonic improvement was noticeable as was the differences between Audyssey and ARC. Many Audyssey users, like me, were always fiddling with the settings because it never really sounded right. Upon switching to Anthem ARC, that changed significantly.
The ARC learning curve is steep, but once one understands that ARC truly works to correct the room, one can relax and appreciate the performance. Varying the mic positions in both distance and height seems to be key. With Audyssey, near field measurements seemed to work best (for MLP), but ARC makes every seat enjoyable.
Another trick to consider is to double up a thick blanket on the leather furniture to remove reflections and mimic a person absorbing the sound. This makes a difference to my ears, especially when occupancy varies. Enjoy your 1140 and its great features.
Thanks I appreciate that. It's like going from driving a car to flying a 747 but to your point autopilot can handle most of it. I also found the varying mic locations to help from my first attempt at ARC and our family watched a movie last night and I was not sitting in the MLP and still enjoyed it very much.
Thanks for the tip on the blankets. I will have to rerun ARC since I got an external amp so will give it a try.
Theanks - best guide video !!!
Thanks and appreciate the comment!
Great video!
Thanks, I appreciate you checking it out!
Great guide and tips! I just ran my first calibration yesterday....looks like I should redo and compare the results. Thanks!
Thanks, Mark actually since this video I've tried some other methods and have ended up with a different way of going about it than what I discuss here. However, I'm not saying that I found a better method, just a method that provides good results for my specific setup. I would definitely recommend trying this one out and seeing how it works for you, some folks still find better results with this method, and you can always reach out to Yves on the Facebook group and pay for his remote calibration help to try out as well. The good thing is if it doesn't sound better you can always go back to your previous ARC file. Best of luck!
@@1crenshaw488 Hi there, he is only on Facebook, unfortunately. Not sure if this will help but here is the link to the facebook group: facebook.com/groups/2396717513953662/
I did it your way and i am impress @@RandomDistractionsYT
Glad to hear that and the great thing about this system is that there is more tuning that you can do to get the sound that you are wanting. For example one thing I've recently done is to go into the 1140 GUI and raise the Subwoofer level to +6, +8 or +10db when listening to music in 2 channel mode. Is it correct or what would be considered the right way for the music to sound? Probably not but I like how it sounds to me when I do that. I've been told before that your ears should be the final tool in getting the sound that you like so best of luck whether you keep trying on your own or hire someone to tune it for you.
Hi thx for the video! Good job! Question for you; in Yves doc it mentions in step 3: Go in the WEB UI and put all the speakers levels (or be sure they are) = 0dB in the trims for all the speakers profiles. (Fig. 2). Is this necessary to do at the beginning? i didn't see you do this.
Thanks and that is totally my fault. I did reset the levels prior to finding the volume to raise to but somehow forgot to record that. Thought I got it all. Sorry about that!
THANKS, very helpful. I did my AVM70 with your method.... Works great. Can you tell what demo disc you used at the end?
Glad to hear that, I do have a follow up on this video but it revolves around the Dolby post processing that I mention in this video. Basically use it only if you need it. I've turned it off and have enjoyed the way it sounds without it. As for the demo it actually wasn't a disc. I downloaded from thedigitaltheater.com to my computer. They have a section for the Dolby Trailers. I then used my Xbox and PLEX to play the file from my computer to the Xbox. The file specifically was Amaze (Lossless-ATMOS). They have other as well.
And also do arc once and creating 2.2 or 2.0 stero you can do after by just creating another profile and then you just cut out the speakers you don’t want you don’t have to do that at the start so arc measures to many times not needed at all
Great tip! It took so long to do all those measurements and they all were the same so make sense to just turn off the speakers after instead of while doing it. Just to confirm, I would just need to turn them off or on from the speakers menu? I'll have to try but will it remember that I turned those off for the profile since I'm using only the one measurement?
@@RandomDistractionsYT good vid by the way i do my mic position 2 and 3 lower than pos 1 and 4 and 5 both higher than position 1
Listen so far I used a couple of people on UA-cam settings and it was not good enough for me but yours I can Live with and by the ways I did contact Yves he is editing my file; let see what he can do; its all fun. Who knows yours and what I added to your setting could be better what's a few dollars, I am always helping a small come up Business.
That's good to hear and I've heard good things about Yves so best of luck with that. I think I'm pretty close to being done with any hardware changes to my system so I can try Yves out as well. Keep enjoying the journey!
@@RandomDistractionsYT I cant keep this up, once i hear his file and if I dont like it mines go back in and thats it I am not chasing this stuff like others. I just like to sit in the sweet spot with family and hit the button: That was Easy
I notice you have SVS SUB which ones you have and are they ported or sealed when you used prometric settings on svs app
Yes, I have two SB3000s which are the sealed versions.
The guide file from Yves is no longer at that link ... does anyone have a new link?
Sorry about that, I was cleaning up my google drive and forgot I was linking that file. Although to be honest I didn't use it in my latest ARC measurement but if you would still like to use it here is a new link: drive.google.com/file/d/1YrLPA3YyjFhrmLZzu-LpR7ag9e_EWbPb/view?usp=sharing
Just FYI: If you plan on trying the new ARC Beta (1.6.4), the process is a bit different from that guide now.
Thanks, I will be trying it out once it's out of beta and did actually hear from Yves that he will be updating his guide to compensate for the changes. May be something I will look further into as well.
I know this is an older video. I’m currently eying my first anthem purchase but the arc videos I’ve watched seem overly complicated. I hope I don’t regret it
Yeah, I think that because you do have so many options with ARC that it can get intimidating, however, I personally have found the process of trying different things enjoyable. I may need to do a more updated version of my current process but here is a link to my most recent things that I have done and tried. This provides a basic process of ARC: ua-cam.com/video/yajfOWU8yDE/v-deo.html and this one is just some things that I tried after that: ua-cam.com/video/zjJipe-5eyk/v-deo.html. If you do decide to go the Anthem route I hope that it turns out better than you expected.
So you only have to adjust the lowest db speaker and subwoofer to 75 db ?
Yes, if you want to do it this way you want to see which speaker is lowest and raise the volume to bring it up and use that during calibration. If you have one sub then 75db but for me I had two so set each one to 72db. To be honest though, I have a follow up video and I no longer use this method as I decided to trust Anthem on their calibration. Either method works it's just a matter of where you want the master volume to be at reference levels.
Hi, how does the Mrx 1140 perform with DD and DD+ content, for example Netflix, DVD and you tube. And also if you can compare this with other AVR’s on the same context how would it stack up. Thank you.
Ray, I can tell you that it does a great job with streaming content, although I do notice some differences between what movie or show is being watched. Blue Rays do sound the best at least for the ones that I have listened to but I do about 99% streaming and have not felt like I was missing much. As for your second question I unfortunately only had my previous receiver which was an old Pioneer VSX 1131 and the Anthem is so much more than that was and probably not a fair comparison. Unfortunately, I don't have the money to purchase other receivers to try and not a big enough channel to receive samples to test out. But if that ever happens I will make sure to compare for sure.
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Thank you for answering.
Also, how would you describe dolby volume for low volume movie watching. Do all the detail and bass come alive at low volumes for example. Thank you.
@@rayking507 No problem and as for low volume it does have some post processing modes (Movie, Night and Music). Those are specifically for low volume watching and they do preserve the bass as well as the vocals but from what I have noticed some dynamics are lost. It sounds good but if you are able to leave those off and turn it up as loud as you can then that is better.
@@RandomDistractionsYT So just to clarify are those related to the dolby volume option or are they different options you select on the anthem.
@@rayking507 They are options on the Anthem. So if you are watching something and you can turn it up loud you can leave the Dolby Post Processing modes (Movie, Music, Night) off. But if you need to keep the volume low you turn them on depending on what you are watching or need. You can turn those modes on no matter what the receiver is getting so if it's DD, DD+, Dolby Atmos, True HD, etc. it doesn't matter. You can still use them. This option is actually on most receivers and was on my old 2016 receiver as well.
where can i find the file or cheat seat you referenced? Thanks
It was through the Andthem Lovers Facebook group which led to a forum so I can't remember. However, I have the file and loaded it to google drive. Here is the link: drive.google.com/file/d/1S68Pg2WMVyYZKsgXiKOvlVIxJVqChcPr/view?usp=sharing. I'll put in the description as well just in case.
@@RandomDistractionsYT Thanks again
Dude can you share Yves link please i am just going to pay someone to go over my file or remote in I dont have time for this stuff I just want to plug and play
I replied in another comment but here is the link to the facebook group. From there you should be able to post a message for him: facebook.com/groups/2396717513953662/
What atmos demo dvd is that?
Hi Roy, it’s not a DVD. There is a site (thedigitaltheater.com) that allows you to download the Dolby demos and also movie trailers in various audio formats. I saved them on my computer and used Plex on there and the Plex app on my Xbox to play them back.
Please can someone share Yves on the Facebook link I want to pay for his service Please!
I replied in another comment but here is the link to the facebook group. From there you should be able to post a message for him: facebook.com/groups/2396717513953662/
Yes great tho i bet having it done with out lowering the master level before arc wont sound much difference to how you did it the only difference will be when watching a movie you will have to watch at much lower like -10 lol compared to -22
Yeah, it does really just change were the volume is at. I actually feel like I'm driving the Anthem harder because I'm going to -10 were in the past I was going to -25 and felt like I still had more headroom but more than likely it's just the same amount either way. I think it's just my head playing with me. :)
@@RandomDistractionsYT how you liking the setting for sub on flat than a number
@@Samzep It's been good, it feels like there is more of it were as before it was a little tighter. So it's probably going to be more of what your preference might be.
@@RandomDistractionsYT so what numbers do you find tighter the lower numbers or higher
@@Samzep I'm trying to remember but it was whatever Anthem originally had for my system, but I want to say it was 3 or 4. I haven't tried the higher numbers. What do you prefer?
Adjusting the main volume before running arc is not necessary and mic position was wrong 2 and 3 should both be lower that position 1 and pos 4 and 5 should both be higher than pos 1
Thanks for the tip, will try that out. The good thing about ARC is it's fairly easy to switch files since you can save them.
Hello James, I think ARC override the main volume setting to keep a consistent level in calibration. But my system can measured around 50db when running quick measure, and I couldn’t finish even one testing in calibration, an error message ‘critical audio problem…’ always come out. Any idea how to solve that problem?