Best Tweaking Tips for Anthem ARC Genesis Room Correction
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In this video, I show how to tweak the post calibration settings for Anthem ARC Genesis room correction. You must select professional mode when doing the initial calibration so you have all of the advanced tweak setting options which I go over in this video. Anthem ARC room correction can transform your listening experience if set up correctly and you experiment with the post calibration results. Let Anthem ARC fix your bass, watch this video to see how.
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I’m a huge fan of Anthem and ARC Genesis. Truly took my theater to another level above what I was getting from Denon and Audyssey.
Do you have the new product? I just got my new Anthem Avm 70 processor just because of all great reviews of ARC. However, Arc genesis for new product is still in work and not available.
@@savanpanchal451 Have you tried the beta software? The new MRX/AVM lines require the beta version of ARC Genesis - www.anthemarc.com/downloads/beta.php
@@RobZ0R138 Hey, yes, I did get that beta version and ran ARC and works good so far. Just waiting for them to update ARC to correct/phase two independent subs.
Update: the Arc genesis was just updated from the beta to the full version
@@neilhansen3025, still no independent sub features though.
I am an integrator out in ABQ, NM, and the biggest seller in my builds lately have been thr Anthem MDX-8 and 16. Using Anthem ARC has seriously elevated our customers' listening experience throughout their homes because they can have a (relatively) flat frequency response while maintaining the customer's respective aesthetic and architectural choices.
Wow great vid. Well done!
In one quick vid Gene explains more about ARC gen advanced settings than Anthem has explained since they began!
Would be great to see more vids on tweaking ARC gen and pre ARC procedures and post ARC procedures also
If not. Still happy with all the info you just provided . THANK YOU!
I wanna do this but man the views are pitiful. No love for Anthem on UA-cam???
@@Audioholics Maybe slow start thats all.
Once the AVM70 is released globally , ARC Gen may gain popularity.
Hopefully anyway .
Just got my MRX740 which replaced my HK AVR 7000 which had died. Awesome machine! Easy to set up especially with the web based computer interface. Installed a couple Def Tech DI 6.5R in ceiling Atmos speakers and a Martin Logan Dynamo 1100X sub to round out my Def Tech based 5.1 base layer. I ran ARC correction profile in the Auto mode. Couldn't believe the difference ARC made from my previous setup which I calibrated with an SPL meter. Will re run it with using your tips.
Thank you. This has been very helpful, and you explained it in such simple terms. I’ll go back to set my STR stack and hopefully, this time, I ‘ll get the bass right. Up until now, I’ve been enjoying the sound more without ARC. The bass just became leaner with ARC on. I’ll give a go again. Thanks also in advance for the room treatment video you plan to do. Two thumbs up.
Thanks Gene. I made some adjustments and have been listening to music with ARC on since. I tried with ARC off about 2 weeks, but I couldn’t. The bass control and speed are much better with ARC on. I’m not sure how I listen with ARC off before.
And thanks for the Room Acoustics Thursdays.
Agreed even first gen Arc is extremely accurate and Anthem sound quality is excellent. My mrx 700 made my speakers come alive Many other room correction software is more like a random number generator
Thanks, Gene!
You precisely described my situation in my listening room and the path to optimisation. Tho I did not use Anthem software, this is how I went. I have a room of ~ 40 m2, on the 2nd floor (next above the ground floor) in a wooden building, that is rather resonant at base frequencies. After moving speakers and furniture for ~ 1 year, I could not find satisfaction in sound - lacking base, glassy highs and blurry soundstage. Tiring for more than half an hour of listening. Al last I invited a sound engineer and we went after that 1 dB/octave slope of in-room response. Measuring the h out of the room with REW, then minor speaker repositioning, then added a carpet and wall gardines, then re-measured and finally manually DSP'ed frequencies and impulses using some pro.software. That convolver file was uploaded to my subsonic dot org server. It may sound easy, but it took the sound eng 12 hours of his work and about 20 hours of mine to do this. And it was worth the effort - the difference in sound is literally palpable and listening is not tiring anymore.
I would love to get more info on ARC as I just got into Anthem products and only used room correction and never used the more advanced options. Understanding more how to adjust the frequency more would be great
Looks like a fantastic tool, I've been waiting to upgrade to the Anthem AVM-70! Can't wait to see your review and hear how it stacks up to the competition.
Just received and set my AVM 70 this weekend! Love it so far, still working on how to get more fuller bass.
@@joshuaalvarez9796 I've had mine for about a year and a half now! Love it!
I purchased my first Anthem item (AVM70) and I'm ready to run ARC, however I'm so lost in the process. I can't wait for your full tutorial.
I will never live without active room correction and using Anthem ARC also. I bet 99% of audiophiles don't use active room correction and don't know what they're missing. For those who don't have Anthem, companies like MiniDSP and others offer units.
I bought an AVR 740 and had a lot of issues when first running ARC Genesis, partly due to my Wifi devices not being visible to my ethernet devices. One of the problems after one correction is going back in, the software wouldn't initialize without a complete "system reset." Hopefully this gets corrected in the final version. Thanks for the tip on opening the file.
I am very happy with my Anthem MRX 1120 receiver. I have the Revel f226be/c426be LCR and use ARC Genesis with great results. I use a miniDSP 2x4HD for my dual 18" subs. I was able to get a beautiful frequency response from 10hz to 20khz after fine tuning in REW first, then running ARC Genesis to smooth out the results. If I ever decide to upgrade, I am tempted to get a high end processor with Dirac and separate ATI amps.
How do you do ? You use at first your Minidsp to calib your Subs, and after you run Arc Genesis ? Thank's.
@@cyrilnobody2064 Yes, you got it!
Gene great video , learned a lot. i would love to see a more detailed video how to do the arc correction and anthem mrx 520 settings. i just purchased it and having trouble with setting it up. somehow i can't do just my rp280 without the sub. i dont get bass from them if im canceling the sub and the rp280 crossover is off. thanks again for your vids love them
Good afternoon my name is Moises and I just want to say I love your show I like how you explain everything in detail. like Nobody does
I just recently bought the anthem MRX 740. Do you have a video on how to get the best settings on it thank you very much. I will wait for your reply.
Great video and amazing tips, no idea why Anthem haven't done this. Gene I really hope you do a fully guided video to ARC Genesis, please 🙏❤ I'll donate if I have to lol.
Appreciate the video - Just received my Anthem AVM70 and started running ARC - I like it much better than audessey however wish it had sub phase alignment and automatic distance; always found my sub delay was bit more than actual distance but not sure if that is a function of running through the sub amps or just unique to audessey - anyway look forward to more in depth guides on ARC - love the cable snake oil videos but hoping you can squeeze in some more ARC soon :) thank you!!
Cool vid bro, I haven’t even used Anthem, but I have heard audible differences toggling subsonic filters on my pre-amp. I think there’s a certain harmonic reinforcement going on. Or maybe the switch has a Q wide enough to cross into the audible band. But The apeakers I was using didn’t seem to be full range. But they did have 12” passive radiators. Driven by 10” woofers, and dual ports in between the driver and radiator. They were some soft dome technics with paper mids. Their bass was generous, but probably only 30hz, in the end I had radio running in two rooms and hearing the Piano on my concentric Kef Q-7’s made the Tecnics sound like chalk. They’re still in the garage gathering dust. Subsonic dust! ha ha nowadays I wonder if it was the electronics. Anyway, whatever that subsonic filter did, it was very audible.
I have had a AVM 60 for 2 years and didn’t know this. Thank you.
Gene, are those the Focal Stellia? They look sharp. Are you testing those for a review? I just got a pair of Focal Clear headphones and I love them. They are hooked up to a Schitt Audio Jotunheim 2 headphone amp which is hooked-up to a Bluesound Node 2i which gets its signal from Roon (I stream Tidal). I noticed on your desktop, you had the JRiver app. The recent video you and Matt did on Tidal vs Qobuz was interesting. I bet Audioholics fans would like to see your desktop headphone set-up, what you think about the Focals, maybe talk about Roon vs. JRiver and do you stream on that set-up or listen to files from your hard drive? Matt (and James) always do a good job with that stuff and the channel hasn't had as many headphone videos as years past. Also, do you have plans for Shane to review the Anthem AVM90 in 2021?
Sorry to hear you were underwhelmed upon first listening to the Revels. I can't believe it. I thought Jim Garrett, Senior Director of Product Strategy at Harman, confirmed to Audioholics that this model is supposed to be the new flagship over the Salon2? Unless I'm thinking of another Revel model (I thought it was in the vid you interviewed him for the JBL HDI series)? Anyway, you will get that sorted out in time. Be patient. You will throw some curtains on the window and do all your tricks to make it perfect. I was wondering if those tweeters are aimed way over your head or maybe it was just the angle of the webcam?
Also, when you do your next vid for this room, can you please talk about whether it is true when doing critical listening on 2 channel audio, it is important not to have anything between the speakers? Another UA-camr (one of the guys you mention often believes in nonsensical things) said having obstructions between the 2 speakers impacts the stereo image or soundstage in a negative way. Could that be contributing to your problem? One thing I just thought of when I first heard you say the sound was off, was if you tried listening with and without that coffee table where it is? It probably isn't throwing off a lot of reflections with all that stuff on it, but just a thought.
Anyway, thanks for the vids. Remember, about a year ago, how crappy you felt with Covid and just know if you give yourself a little time, that room will sound great!
Yes, the Focal Stellia are the best headphones I ever listened to. I also have Clear and use the Arche amp. Heaven.
Great video. Good info to have. Getting the Anthem MRX 740 when it comes out. Are those Focal headphones?
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One thing I know now is the new mikes there is a dot make sure it points towards the home theatre system I found that out after I had done my sets and saved it
Thanks thats gunna help when my anthem mrx740 comes in.
So here I am in 2022 and just purchase in the uk this AVM 70. Whilst I have tried to run arc and very pleased on how it sounds for films etc, my burning question for @gene is how would you set your front speakers for pure stereo and no sub? Would you set fronts to "Flat "and "superbass" enabled for them and still have arc room correction? As you can see I am very confused even after watching your video because you still used the sub for stereo. I would really appreciate any input on this thank you.
I am waiting for the AVM70 review. My Denon blew up so I'm thinking upgrade time!
Go see my friends channel spec of tech he made the first 70 video this week and will have many more coming.
My denon blew too. Also looking at AVM70 + a NORD amplifier.
Thanks Gene. I've got an Anthem MRX1120 and absolutely love ARC. One thing that ARC lets you do on a multi-channel system is set the correction frequency by channel. This is interesting, because I also just watched your video from several months back about intelligibility issues with home theater speakers. One of your suggestions was not to use room correction. However, another finding was that it can be helpful to boost your center channel in the 2K - 3K range. I'm wondering if you've tried this or would recommend this? That is, keeping the correction frequency on the other channels to 500Hz or so, but setting just the center channel to say 2.5kHz to help with intelligibility? I'm planning to try it out, but wanted to get your thoughts on if that is a good or bad idea.
Hi can I ask advice I can load a saved previous curve but I cannot get into advanced settings to adjust room gain bass boost etc where am I going wrong. Thanks
I have a MRX 11.1 and it work really well with ARC system. The only comment I have on the ARC system is there is no personnal EQ in it. I mean you cant setup a EQ on particular speaker. All my speaker are not exactly the same, they dont sound "exactly" the same, so an individual EQ to all speaker would be very nice to adjust for the difference between speaker. The ARC system already have all the power of Digital EQ so they can do it. I already give the comment to Anthem a year ago no answer and still nothing change. Doesnt have to be more than 6dB to help personnalise your system. ARC is to much automatic and "pre-preset". From my point of view, the day they add an individual EQ for personnal adjustment or personnal taste, ARC system will sky rocked in advantage compare to other system...
I heard recently. House curves are obsolete.
That Harman studdies were done pre LFE and now post LFE in a mix, a 10dB curve is default already in the mix
So basically if you have a 10dB slope u'll end up hearing too much bass since it's already accounted for in every Dolby/DTS mix
Gene have you heard this before?
Hi Gene, great video, thank you! a few questions:
1.what is and what is the purpose of dolby offset/calibration level in the LEVEL CALIBRATION menu? do i leave this a 0 db when setting all my channels levels prior to running ARC to get reference levels at 75db?
2. Can i play with (up or down) with the calibration levels once ARC has been run and uploaded? sometimes i feel ARC puts levels too low. is the idea that speaker level should still be at 75db reference after ARC has run? or not?
3. Can i change manually the CROSS OVER FREQUENCIES on my speakers AFTER ARC has run set and uploaded all to my receiver?
Thank you
Great information. I have an L shaped room with the dreaded alcove. I’m looking at Anthem and Paradigm 100F. Have moved furniture and speakers out from wall to improve sound. Do you think Arc would work and improve on this terrible set-up?
I have been using ARC for my Anthem MX 520 along with my PC that was running Win 10....I bought a new PC with Win 11...and the ARC will not work, and there doesn't seem to be a download on the Anthem download page..is there a workaround or other suggestion to remedy this ?.
Using an mrx720 granted an older version of arc I experienced a lot of issues with the automated system. Noticed voices cut out of music and bass. Went into file and it was arc. Despite settings it rolled off the top of each speaker at 20k even though settings were at 5k. After a lot of trial and error, sending files to anthem...arc is best turned off. The anthem equipment is fantastic but the arc software even set to only 200hz I found still cut certain frequencies out. To be fair I'll need to update, setup, run readings, go through files, do listening sessions, go through files and see if there's been any improvements in the last couple updates... but I have little hope.
Also I forgot you need to be careful with the deep bass boost as that adds to the subwoofer as well as any full range speakers so be prepared when adjusting and running for the 1st time after giving the bass a little boost.
Hi Gene, great video. I've been using Anthem and ARC for several years. Recently been playing around with the updated ARC Genesis software. I changed my maximum frequency correction to 500hz per your recommendation in this video. I was wondering if you'd be willing to review my ARC settings and perhaps provide any additional recommendations to tweak my settings?
Can I lower the target curve so it will only cut and never boost?
May I know how to listen quieter sounds of the movie to louder? I know when we turn Dolby volume on, it does the job but Dolby does not support the height speakers.
What ARC version do you recommend for an MRX540, should I use Genesis or Beta? Also can ARC be run on a Mac or iPad or does it have to be a PC?
How can we run post calibration measurements with ARC genesis to check all the corrected frequencies curves in real time? I mean does the Anthem receiver still apply the calibration settings when we run ARC genesis again for post calibration measurements to double check how effective ARC genesis is?
If it sounds better after manual adjustments why does not ARC do this automatically? Why does it leave out the max performance?
No room correction system is 100% optimized automatically. Tweaking is essential if you want the best performance. We also all have different preferences in bass level, and it's nice to have that adjustability.
Rumble effect? How to make use of this feature best?
Hi, can you advise how to listen quieter sound of the movies at louder with Anthem MRX receiver? I know turning on Dolby volume, does this job but unfortunately Dolby does not support height speakers.
I just did auto ARC mode and bass was gone! Without ARC sounds awesome! With is very dull lacks bass, just lacks everything!
Well the Anthem AVM70 is a very nice unit when mine was working for a month. The auto
update worked but mine "glitched" on the firmware auto update and does
not turn on anymore. Anthem will warranty it but I have been (since
4-23-2021) trying to get the papers from Anthem on the RMA but emails
& phone calls are becoming no response on emails or Covid 19 recordings on the phone que.
Warranty maybe an issue here guys? While it worked I had all 15.2
working and it sounded amazing. Anthem told me it would be 4 to 6 weeks
for this to be fixed but I have already lost another week just trying to
get the paper work returned to me?
I noticed using Audessy on my old Integra receiver has diminished my audio experience..Should I do my eq manually ?My room is 9×12 tile floor but have rug on floor and acoustic panels Thanks
This arc software can I use for denon avr behalf of audyssey with minidsp umik1?
I read this as best twerking tips.
You prefer ARC over Dirac??
Ok. Next question. Should I use the app for my sub (svs) or strictly use ARC?
whichever gives you better results ;)
Gene, what if we just leave ARC in auto mode and not adjust anything manually.. will result still be good?
It seems that the bass adjustment is still hard to autoEQ…
You are by far the best person on the internet right now haha .I have this pre amp and love it .hope you hook a sub upto this.I have a svs sb1000 hooked up with mine .
I have the new MRX 1140 and the ARC Genesis Beta software calibrated my system to 85dB. This resulted in a much harsher and abrasive sound than standard calibration using an SPL meter. After much tweaking and frustration, I finally have it at a calibration level that is comparable with my old Marantz SR5010. The old Marantz still sounds better and that is very disappointing since this receiver costs about 4x as much and is much newer. As much praise as these products and room correction software receives, I'm left wondering if I'm missing something here.
Also, love your work, Gene. Keep it up!
Hmm I heard there was an Anthem ARC bug on their new AVRs. You may want to reach out to Anthem or your dealer to inquire.
@@Audioholics I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing issues with their receivers / ARC software. I'm new to Anthem, but have been eyeballing them for a long time. I have contacted my dealer and they have a message out to Anthem as well. We'll see what they say - thanks for the reply!
Can arc work on other brands of home theater receivers?
No, it's proprietary to Anthem and their receivers and processors only.
Is this using the new Anthem mic?
No the black mic is gen 3 the gen 4 mic is different.
Go see my friend spec of tech he's got a video on the amv70 and more coming
Ok Gene, you are supposed to replace all of the furniture to change the damn curve. I thought you had a smart house lol
LOL
Can you use a smartphone?
Yes.
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