Best Anthem ARC Genesis Calibration Methods & Results
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- With the addition of the Audio Advice Revelation chairs to the Techthusiasm home theater, it was time to re-calibrate the audio with Anthem ARC Genesis on my AVM 70. I made some other audio tweaks to the room as well, so I'm covering the complete update to my measuring methods, ARC tweaks, and current results.
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Thanks for the video. I've been working on setting up my new AVM90 and I really appreciate the updated info on your journey. I'm going to play around with the higher measurement counts and compare with standard 5 measurements. I have a challenging room. I move furniture around when I add my second row and that changes my main listening position. So fun to mess around with this stuff.
Nice! Check out the live podcast I did with Audio Advice on this too. ua-cam.com/users/liveq5piQfqPta8
Thanks Jaremy , glad the focus is on the theatre for awhile.
Let me know what you'd like to see more of!
@@Techthusiasm Jaremy , would you give a ball park of what the Avm 70 sold for. Need to sell mine. Thank you, Gene.
I sold mine for like $2,700 shipped, IIRC. I think they are a tad less than that right now.
After thinking about some of the settings, in a future re-run I may consider going back to full 20k correction on the LCR given the AT screen. I'm also thinking that I might have wanted to manually boost the tops a little bit as that would have given ARC more margin to correct the big dips the tops show. As well as possibly, experimenting to bring the tilt back in.
Let me know what else you think might be good to tweak. Of course, I'll be doing this all again very soon as the AVM 90 is ordered and confirmed. Once the 90 comes, I may go ahead with two measurements as well, one focused only around my seat more tightly and one spread across the full row perhaps with 7 or so positions for solo versus group room use. I could easily swap between those settings with the Control4 Halo.
Good stuff. I would consider doing another measurement and using one for just you and one for all seats. You have the profiles available and you might be surprised at the difference.
Yeah, once I get the 90 in, I might go ahead and make a single focus plus a group wide measurement separately.
Great video. I have to redo my calibration with Dirac since I have a few new subs. It’s just so time consuming. Maybe this weekend. Also have to learn how to use REW so I can see what my subs are doing
Yeah, 4 subs will make the whole thing take even longer now. :)
@@Techthusiasm lol yup. Tomorrows gonna be a long day 😂
Jaremy, have you purchased a microphone like Umik-1 to check your results in REW yet? I really really recommend you do. Automatic calibrations get you about 80% of the way and using REW is really when you can take it to that peak performance level. It really helped me understand my room and more specifically how it was affecting my speakers so I could mitigate better . It’s eye opening
I probably will this year sometime.
Thank you for your video vertigo useful but I ran a calibration with 10 measurements ARC Genesis and it got to all distances wrong what am I missing
ARC measures distance in time delay. The number can look confusing.
I will be interested to see your SW response with 4 and how well the 90 incorporates them. Given my diminished upper register hearing, I stopped correcting peaks above 2kHz which helps me now that I use the space over 90% of the time.
Why is Anthem still not allowing you to calibrate all the subs together, I bought this receiver especially for having 4 subwoofers! Does the Marantz AV10 has the ability to calibrate all four subs at once?
The AVM 90 discretely calibrates 4 subs.
@@Techthusiasmnot all together!
If you want to go back in later and change things in the ARC file.. How do you do it? Love the Focals. I didn't know there where in wall speakers where you can angle the tweeter.. That a great idea.
If you saved the file from your configuration run, you can re-open that file in ARC Genesis and make adjustments.
@@Techthusiasm You didn't tell me how to do it tho lol
You failed to tell me you have to go into professional mode.
I figured it out on my own. Thank you for replying tho
Oh! I've had mine in Pro mode from the start I guess that I completely overlooked that the mode might enable certain features. Sorry!
What firmware are you running? I see in the AVS forums that there is a big issue with the loss of bass.
I'm running 2.2.203. There was a problem with a recent beta, I think it was 2.3.
That 2khz suck out from your LCR looks like potentially a phase issue in your speakers passive crossovers, often seen in klipsch speaker where the tweeter and mids or mids an woofers don’t sum correctly…
If you confirm there is nothing wrong with the crossover then correcting above 1-2khz is not such a great idea specifically in theater where there is more than 1 seat as this is going to ruin seat to seat accuracy, if you need to correct response above 2khz then use room acoustic treatments.
Keeping your 5 measurements tight within the MLP is the most desirable calibration method.
Interesting feedback, thanks!
Jaremy grade video as usual.Please let me know something as you are expert at apple tv 4k 2022.I have a 1080p projector 2007 model with apple tv 4k 2022 and an old avr non atmos with 7.1 speaker set up.If i buy a new avr with atmos support and set the audio at apple tv to "atmos" and REMAIN 7.1 my set up because i cant atmos speaker set up(height channel etc).Shall i have higher audio bitrate at movies at itunes store??.Is it possible?I really want your opinion if you know in order to buy anew avr.
Ha, thanks! Yes to your question.
thanks for all the help. Just wondering do I need to do a Phase Adjustment run everytime I adjust a measurement within Arc Genesis?
That's a question I have as well. Stay tuned for an opportunity hopefully to get an answer to that and a lot more ARC stuff coming up.
I asked this in the AVS forum also. Bob Pariseau being a kind of oracle answered that indeed you have to run the phase adjustment every time@@Techthusiasm
Good to know. I usually had been doing that. It makes sense the way they set up the tool, where you set all your configuration details then upload and the phase section shows up in the UI after that. It kind of implies to run it after other config is done.
NICE VID!!! Man I need help 😞
I do offer consulting on learning and using Anthem ARC. Just let me know through techthusiasm_jp@outlook.com.
IS there a way to toggle the genesis settings on/off on the AVM 70?
Yes, it's per input. Use the web UI, go the input, and there's an ARC toggle.
@@Techthusiasm Oh, thats badass. Thanks!
Do you go back and level match from the MLP after EQ?
I've seen that mentioned elsewhere. I don't quite understand the need to do that though. Running the whole EQ should level everything out for you. I'll be curious to ask that question to Anthem.
@@Techthusiasm Anytime you adjust the frequency response there is a good probability the overall SPL has changed. With 11+ speakers being off .5 db or less is enough to not hear a speaker or shift the phantom image. Same is true with speaker distances. Actually timing is prob the most important with tolerances less than a ms.
Have you thought about showing your graphs to Anthem Audio Lovers to see what they think or suggest?👴🏽
I've posted there a bit to share videos and such. It's one of my FaceBook groups.
@@TechthusiasmI seen other guys post their graphs and the experts gave some pretty good opinions!