You have nailed it Daniele. Spot on! Narcisists in their dellusion and entitlement truly believe they own you and you will never leave - they believe their own lies and assume everyone else would to.
On the phone with my mother i was surprised when she said "I shouldn't have let you go" i had to leave i was being overly conrolled.I was being censored so much it was smothering.
Sometimes, you want to leave but don't know how. I was only working part-time and was trying to figure out how to get away. Then he kind of pushed my hand. So, with only a part-time job, I filed for separation. He was/is shocked. I got a full-time job, but because it is so new, I am stuck living in the same house until I can finally get away fully. I didn't know how I was going to get away. For months I would go over in my head the steps I would take to get out. Danielle is right, it is not easy, but it will be so wonderful when I make it to the other side. Stay strong 💪🏻 ✨️
this actually happened to me when i left home for good back in 2007 with my narcissist parents. i was the last of the 3 kids to move out. being the scapegoat, my parents would both want me to move out, yet psychologically, they believed i would never amount to anything enough to be able to afford to move out. anyhow when i did, both my parents were in shock. they were not happy at all about my independence. furthermore, they now had just their rotten selves to deal with, instead of using me for the rent I paid ( i had no problem paying my parents rent after i finished college), as well as an emotional punching bag. my mother played the victim and ran a harebrained smear campaign with the neighbors. my dad eventually passed away and i felt relief in that i didn't have to worry about his emotional abuse ever again. since i moved out, i continue to guard my mental health like it's game 7 of the nhl stanley cup final . to those in a tough family situation, stay strong and don't be afraid to cut off toxic family members and enablers. cheers 🍻 from southern ontario, canada 🇨🇦
Great comment. "Game 7 of a final". Lol ! I do the same with most family, and I'm seeing as the "bad guy". Toxic family will drain your energy and retard your life. I have so much less stress, since going very, very low contact with many family members and no contact with others. After much trial and error, it's the only solution.
@livelife5890 glad to have been a bit of help and to have brought a laugh with my comment. narcissists are hard to deal with at first but become easier once you learn their playbook, especially if you are able to go no-contact or mentally stiff-arm them. unfortunately the harder part is dealing with enablers or folks who don't know or understand what narcissism is about. it's been a lonely tough road for me to stand my ground, so my advice based on lived experiences, is for folks to stand your ground - and consider that those who don't defend you, or aren't even willing to see your viewpoint, weren't really in your corner anyways. all the best, steven
They will use any form of leverage against us to keep us under their control. She knew that I would never leave and used that as a power ploy…..Financial control was one of the “assets“ she used against me to control the marriage. Well, she ended up leaving me anyway! I often wonder if this was done “for me and not to me“…. because I couldn’t do it myself! Little by little, I’m beginning to finally be able to breathe comfortably without fear of what she might or might not do next. It’s been one heckuva journey..🕊
Hi Danielle, I was diagnosed in 2020 with NPD (covert narcissism). I'm now in therapy to heal. It was my own decision, not anyone elses. I want to pass through that what you say is absolutely true. They really think that.
But when you do leave them after years of bad stuff, and you figuratively slam the door shut like the ending scene in the original Saw movie, it feels satisfying. That guy took No Contact to a whole new level 😀
The Empath MUST understand these hobgoblins have had a paved way their entire lives exempt from accountability responsibility and ownership. That's 1 of the reasons they always feel so entitled. Whatever it was they got it got it good and got away with it their whole lives. And they know it too. They've always known it. They count on it. View the vintage Seinfeld "Jerry-Even Steven" clip 2:39 to see if they're aware they get special treatment. That's what fuels their arrogance.
@@otherworlder1😆😆😆Yep. hahaha. I call their Enablers Gargoyles!!! Because they just sit there and do nothing while their "Hobgoblin" wrecks and destroys. Then when it's all over the gargoyle didn't see anything. Like the see no evil hear no evil monkeys...."Flying Monkeys" is more like it.
If the narcissist got away with enabling murder, deformation of character, false sexual accusations destroying lives and marriages of those they claim they love, you’d bet they would feel pretty damn cocky and arrogant to do what thy wilt. It feeds the false occupant of that person.
I didn't threaten. I just left. I shouldn't have to explain how to treat people to a man in his late 50's. It wasn't the first rodeo for either of us. He should have known by then.
Are u able to talk or text I'm not big on figuring out websites but need someone outside to get edvise and vent and need edvice from someone i don't know and you made so much sense I know everything is not right buy want edvice or just vent and talk I don't even know I'm sending this the right way
At the end he literally said “I thought you would never leave.” True statement.
It wasn't about courage; I was financially sabotaged.
In his twisted mind,he thinks that he can manipulate me into not leaving by telling me that men aren’t marrying or taking care of women anymore.
Absolutely true. I am free and happy finally.
You have nailed it Daniele. Spot on! Narcisists in their dellusion and entitlement truly believe they own you and you will never leave - they believe their own lies and assume everyone else would to.
On the phone with my mother i was surprised when she said "I shouldn't have let you go" i had to leave i was being overly conrolled.I was being censored so much it was smothering.
Sometimes, you want to leave but don't know how. I was only working part-time and was trying to figure out how to get away. Then he kind of pushed my hand. So, with only a part-time job, I filed for separation. He was/is shocked. I got a full-time job, but because it is so new, I am stuck living in the same house until I can finally get away fully. I didn't know how I was going to get away. For months I would go over in my head the steps I would take to get out. Danielle is right, it is not easy, but it will be so wonderful when I make it to the other side. Stay strong 💪🏻 ✨️
Take care dear🤗
@@manuellaarbeit5481 Thank you so much 😊
this actually happened to me when i left home for good back in 2007 with my narcissist parents.
i was the last of the 3 kids to move out. being the scapegoat, my parents would both want me to move out, yet psychologically, they believed i would never amount to anything enough to be able to afford to move out.
anyhow when i did, both my parents were in shock. they were not happy at all about my independence.
furthermore, they now had just their rotten selves to deal with, instead of using me for the rent I paid ( i had no problem paying my parents rent after i finished college), as well as an emotional punching bag.
my mother played the victim and ran a harebrained smear campaign with the neighbors.
my dad eventually passed away and i felt relief in that i didn't have to worry about his emotional abuse ever again.
since i moved out, i continue to guard my mental health like it's game 7 of the nhl stanley cup final .
to those in a tough family situation, stay strong and don't be afraid to cut off toxic family members and enablers.
cheers 🍻 from southern ontario, canada 🇨🇦
Great comment. "Game 7 of a final". Lol ! I do the same with most family, and I'm seeing as the "bad guy".
Toxic family will drain your energy and retard your life. I have so much less stress, since going very, very low contact with many family members and no contact with others.
After much trial and error, it's the only solution.
@livelife5890 glad to have been a bit of help and to have brought a laugh with my comment.
narcissists are hard to deal with at first but become easier once you learn their playbook, especially if you are able to go no-contact or mentally stiff-arm them.
unfortunately the harder part is dealing with enablers or folks who don't know or understand what narcissism is about.
it's been a lonely tough road for me to stand my ground, so my advice based on lived experiences, is for folks to stand your ground - and consider that those who don't defend you, or aren't even willing to see your viewpoint, weren't really in your corner anyways.
all the best, steven
They sure got that wrong! 😂 Now that I'm actually allowed to be myself why would I swap that for a dusty weirdo!
Miss Danielle is always on point with her knowledge on narcissism.
They will use any form of leverage against us to keep us under their control. She knew that I would never leave and used that as a power ploy…..Financial control was one of the “assets“ she used against me to control the marriage.
Well, she ended up leaving me anyway! I often wonder if this was done “for me and not to me“…. because I couldn’t do it myself!
Little by little, I’m beginning to finally be able to breathe comfortably without fear of what she might or might not do next. It’s been one heckuva journey..🕊
You’re right, it was the hardest thing to divorce my abusive ex wife but man I do not regret it one bit!
Hi Danielle, I was diagnosed in 2020 with NPD (covert narcissism). I'm now in therapy to heal. It was my own decision, not anyone elses. I want to pass through that what you say is absolutely true. They really think that.
But when you do leave them after years of bad stuff, and you figuratively slam the door shut like the ending scene in the original Saw movie, it feels satisfying. That guy took No Contact to a whole new level 😀
The Empath MUST understand these hobgoblins have had a paved way their entire lives exempt from accountability responsibility and ownership. That's 1 of the reasons they always feel so entitled. Whatever it was they got it got it good and got away with it their whole lives. And they know it too. They've always known it. They count on it. View the vintage Seinfeld "Jerry-Even Steven" clip 2:39 to see if they're aware they get special treatment. That's what fuels their arrogance.
Hobgoblins. Yes!! 👏
@@otherworlder1😆😆😆Yep. hahaha. I call their Enablers Gargoyles!!! Because they just sit there and do nothing while their "Hobgoblin" wrecks and destroys. Then when it's all over the gargoyle didn't see anything. Like the see no evil hear no evil monkeys...."Flying Monkeys" is more like it.
If the narcissist got away with enabling murder, deformation of character, false sexual accusations destroying lives and marriages of those they claim they love, you’d bet they would feel pretty damn cocky and arrogant to do what thy wilt. It feeds the false occupant of that person.
Thank You❤👍👍
She wuz a hor to the core, and a 304, when I figured it out, I headed for the door!
True
I.m not resigning up for the deluxe platinum abuse package
Good information
I didn't threaten. I just left. I shouldn't have to explain how to treat people to a man in his late 50's. It wasn't the first rodeo for either of us. He should have known by then.
Are u able to talk or text I'm not big on figuring out websites but need someone outside to get edvise and vent and need edvice from someone i don't know and you made so much sense I know everything is not right buy want edvice or just vent and talk I don't even know I'm sending this the right way