More 175 Teardown
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Back on the 175. Splitting it up into small pieces so I can dump them in Lord Muck's garden without him noticing.
Front axle and bolster are off, today I get the clutch out of the most abused tractor on the Internet.
Please can we cut it up ?
You obviously haven't checked your flower beds recently.
Ah come on Kurt the man clearly has some serious illness 😂😂😂
Yes, it's in a bad way, but it's bought and paid for.
Another could be as bad, so better to put the money into this one and get it sorted.
It is a 175 after all.
Good luck, we'll all be following.
Exactly my thoughts. Thanks for watching.
Admire your patience, afraid I think this is too much for what it is. However, very interesting, thank you for sharing.
It's definitely beyond saving, and well beyond economic repair, but what's life like without a challenge?
Im in disbelief on how much the last owner/wrecker was able to bodge shit up. 😅
I can honestly say in over 40 years of doing this stuff both professionally and for fun, I have never seen one quite like it.
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The last owner sure had a great understanding how to wreck a nice tractor 👌
I don't think he understood a lot more than that 🤣
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Wow that really is a turd in need of a lot of polishing 😭. While I admire anyone who “has a go”, people like your mystery welder should really know their limitations. Congratulations on your everlasting sarcastic enthusiasm and your determination to see this project through. 👍
Thank you and I'm glad you are enjoying it.
Realistically honest assessment👌
Amazing that thing managed to keep going! Thanks for posting
Says a lot about the quality of manufacture and materials.
Thank you for watching.
I think you should donate the whole thing to your local agricultural college, the youngsters would learn more about what to look out for than a lecture ever could.
They would probably scrap it! It's really that bad.
How did that tractor take that amount of abuse and still work? However makes for fascinating viewing as it truly is a full rebuild.
I think it's a testament to the durability and quality of the original engineering.
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makes me feel better about my 175. I have the old multipower valve sprayed oil on the clutches problem on both my 135 and 175. My deere 1050 keeps throwing repairs at me before I can find time to split either of the masseys. Just had one of the wet sleeve O rings disintegrate on the yanmar engine and had to tear it down even though it was perfect with only 2000 hours. Now it's even more perfect lol.
Someone described my 175 problems as tractor whack-a-mole 🤣. Sounds like you have the same problem.
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Some people should never be allowed near machinery let alone work on it , i admire your enthusiasm 👍
So true. What worries me more, what was the rest of the farm like if he looked after machines this badly? I only hope he didn't have livestock.
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I am looking for a Massey Ferguson 390 Forwell tractor
Yes I stayed to the end, having a 178 I trust their similar, though ours is not to the despair condition as the 175, great patience, loving it. Ray.
178 is similar, it's a bit longer and has a 248 engine rather than a 236 and a few other differences, but glad you are enjoying it and thanks for watching.
@ClarenceFudWeasel thank you for the note, I learn from your earlier videos the intricacies of the multi power, thus always learning. Ray.
@@bh.boilers A learning day is a good day. When I stop learning, it's time to lie down and die 🙂
Good to see you back on it although I'm not sure who to feel most sorry for, you or the tractor? It wouldn't be so bad if it was just honestly worn out but bodged to within an inch of its life is just something else.
I do wonder if the poor old thing just wants to be razor blades 🤣
Thanks for watching.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel it's too good a grade of steel to be modern razor blades!
@@malcolm8938 Probably 😁
Silver lining of the 175 is you would never have bought the 1080 if you didn't need a set of wheels. But that purchase looks like it's turning into a gem.👍
That's true, but now I have the correct wheels for the 175 I bought earlier this year, I have to finish it otherwise I'll have spare wheels.
I think that makes sense 🙂
Your dedicated, I would have scrapped it or stripped it for parts with that many issues !!
It all adds to the satisfaction of seeing it run again. 😁
MF175. A piece of history that almost everyone had because it was affordable compared to the cost of an equivalent tractor today. Many thanks for bringing it back to life.
Thank you
Great video as always, I know it’s a lot of work and expense but you will have a tractor thats as good as new with all the parts you are going to need, when you have the oil pan off you already know that it will need to have plenty of work done to get it right just like the rest, I wounded if you will find any rounded or welded nuts on the mains and big end bearing caps in there?
It's going to be like Trigger's broom by the end!
Thanks for watching.
The last owner brings back memories of my uncle Charlie we called him Iron Butcher that name stuck with him to his grave it seems like whatever can be broken will be broken by him
I know someone like that, he could break an anvil!
You've more dedication than me, I'd have used it for spares or scrapped it off by now. It's only saving grace is as you mentioned (if I remember correctly) that it's a rare tractor. Good luck and I'm finding this very interesting 👍
Thanks, and thank you for watching.
No cold snack here just mince and tatties. That poor tractor has been whipped to with in an inch of its life. I know you can give it a new lease of life and film the rebuild for us to watch and enjoy. Good vid Clarence....👍
Glad you are enjoying it. I'm almost looking forward to getting the sump off and seeing the jewels that are waiting within.
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Goodness Clarence you have a heart like a lion the further you go the worse it gets though I suppose when all the scrap parts are discarded and the rebuild starts it will seem alot better and it is an unusual model after all that should be restored keep up the good work and mind yourself 👍
Thanks for taking the time to watch. It's appreciated.
Great update - look forward to following this one, it is certainly going to keep you occupied!
Glad you enjoyed it. I'll get the oil pan off and we can see what treasures lie inside!
Everyone loves a good horror movie. Thanks for sharing
Just can't imagine what that must have been like to drive before it was dumped in the hedgerow 😳😬 you sir must have some masochistic tendencies to take that on but will certainly make interesting viewing 🤔👌
I think keeping it in a straight line might have been a challenge!
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Very informative, keep up the good work.
Thank you. That's appreciated.
Lord Muck has a garden ❓
I suppose you could call it that. Estate is a better word.
Thanks for watching.
I also have a gardener.
It's a lot of work especially on the uphill areas
Never known an engine hoist to go down gently. Opening release valve usually goes - nothing, nothing, nothing, fully open, then followed by multiple swear words and raising it back up 6 inches when you see that one electrical connector still attached.
Being an old guy with carpal tunnel problems doesn't help either 🤣
Don't do it, man.
Life is too short for hopeless causes. Just strip the good parts and keep/sell them according to preference.
But it keeps me out of the pubs, I'd only be spending my money on beer otherwise, or my wife would spend it on horses. Either way, I have no choice really 😁
Hope you don't get to many more nasty surprises as we'll enjoy the journey of this restoration. Just a pity that job satisfaction doesn't pay the bills as your pockets will be empty. Look forward to the next one 👍
I'll be paying for this one long after Lord Muck has stopped laughing at me!
Thanks for watching.
Tell him to chip in and blame him for talking you into doing it, when you did the fly on the wall video. 👍the only person who came out of that one well was George with his fish and chips. 😂😂
@@spudhauler Perhaps I can try the fish and chips trick on Lord Muck. I'm sure he would love that.
👍😂😂
Glutton for punishment springs to mind Fud 😅
Honestly, I knew it was bad, but not this bad...
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Nicknamed yet? What about Spatter or Oxford ? 😅.. mechanics would be boring without challenges but its no fun when its like a ninja warrior course 😅.. youll get it sorted though and she will be spot on when done... thanks for sharing . Stay safe 🏴
People have suggested Son of Turd Ferguson after the 1805 on JT's Barn and Grill. (If you haven't discovered him yet, he's definitely worth a look).
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christ Fud, she sure is a mess.
Sure is🤣. Makes you wonder what the rest of the previous owners farm was like!
So, let me get this straight.... You bought a festering dung pile, and inside of that, you found a festering dung pile?!! And now, you're going to build a tractor where the festering dung pile has been standing?
That tractor is either, going to love you for saving its life, or, it's going to hate your guts and fight you every step of the way! - We had that exact same scenario with a; a David Brown Cropmaster which was an absolute pig to resurrect and fought back at every turn of the screw, and b; the most unlikely restoration of a David Brown 30D tractor that had been kept as a parts machine, and had been robbed of almost every useable part, but was so keen to run again that it cooperated with us every step of the way and was a far easier job than the tractor which was complete and supposedly easily restorable.
Which will it be? A grunting squealing pig? Or a tame and purring kitten? - - Place your bets!
I'm guessing at grunting squealing pig.......
I'm going for the grunting squealing pig with a prolapsed rectum that's just sat in a pool of Carolina Reaper sauce option.
Thanks for watching.
Words fail me......!!!!😱 I'm amazed he didn't weld the clutch assembly onto the flywheel, just aswell he didn't, at least when you complete the nut and bolt resurrection it will be 95% a new 175 only British, only better.🙂
It will be like Trigger's broom, four new heads and two new handles.
Thanks as always for watching and joining in the comments.
My advice would be to pause and give it a long hard think-through. I’ve experienced friends who bought cars to restore only to find that they’re far worse than expected. On more than one occasion, they went looking for a parts vehicle and ended up building the parts car with contributions from the original subject. A fishing net is a bunch of holes tied together with string. Your tractor is a bunch of pieces tied together with half-assed welds. If you build it and try to use it, it might one day collapse like a house of cards. I’m not trying to be mean, just saying that there have to be better starting points out there. I wish you all the best with whatever path you head down. Always interesting videos. 🤠🚜👍🤠❗️
But I'm much too stubborn now I've started. Look at it this way, a lot of people will see what challenges I am facing and perhaps decide to take up gardening instead. I'm still looking for a better 175, but unfortunately they are few and far between unless I import one from the US.
Thanks for watching, it's appreciated.
Good stuff Clarence, its always easy be wise after the event, but as they say, you can't judge a book by its cover, ( although the cover on this girl was not great from the start ) but You seem to be the type of man that likes a challenge👌👍🙏😎
Don't know about a challenge, I think I must be a bit simple 😁
Thanks for watching.
Good day from Canada Wow it looks pretty rough. When u took clutch apart alot of rust. Was this tractor not used for awhile
wow, clutch plate. Thanks for now, good luck
I'm pretty sure the poor old thing has been in a flood or something at some time. It's been right under water anyway!
Thanks for watching.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Yea that makes sense. Thanks
Christ you have balls taking that on! Would have gas axed it long ago. Possibly the worst 'maintenance' and bodging I've ever seen...
I'd like to meet the previous owner, if only to slap him about a bit!
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The man that taught me to weld 40+ years ago said the two most important things needed to be a good welder are-"Knowing HOW to weld and knowing WHEN to weld". With that in mind, was the previous owner a mentally deficient Chimpanzee??
I agree completely. The only thing I would add to that is knowing what can be welded to what. I also think that our chimpanzee friend was given a Rainbow "I want to be a welder" electrode starter kit containing a bronze rod, a cast rod, a nickel rod, a gouge, a 6106 and a few others to get him going. I think he liked the easy strike that the gouging rods gave him so much that he bought a whole box and continued to perfect his technique with them.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel I suspect you are right, he did at least pick the best rod for burning through paint, rust and grease 🤣🤣
Your a brave man restoring that money pit FW , thats a parts tractor to me...... Genuine coca-cola down the bores will free almost any stuck piston I have found if you let it soak for a few hours, Imagine what it does to your guts!!! Best of luck.
Thank you, and thanks for watching
This tractor has now crossed into being a labor of love and a mission to see it through. I like your dry sarcastic humor and your depth of knowledge about it is amazing. I look forward to the next episode in the Massie saga.
I should have given up on it, but I just want to know how much worse it can get. It's a kind of obsession now 😂
Good luck with that 175. Casting that are broken can new ones be obtained. ?
Our friend Mr Greet has most of what I need, and Mr Pocock has the rest so it's just down to the money.
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It's looking more and more like you need a done parts machine
Or I should put it back together as a piece of yard art 🤣
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I don't know if you remember Stephen King's 1983 movie called Christine, the killer car who the ower rescued it and got so possessed with, despite being trashed by many of his foes it still came back to life until crushed in the end, although, it is a Massey Ferguson 175, and its red and wrecked too, only it will survive, I'm not so sure about the previous owner if you met he,she, or what, this is sounding familiar based on a tractor alarmingly?😮
Perhaps we should call it Crustine
Now that’s an impressive tractor!🤣🤦♂. So a technical question, when does the love of something turn into stupid idea🤷♂🤣 and I really can’t talk if you’d seen the things I’ve been eyeing up😬🤦♂🤣
That's a very good question. And I don't have an answer I'm afraid. But I have a some advice for you.
BUY IT!
Then you can blame me 🤣
@@ClarenceFudWeasel 🤣 that’s all I need… someone to blame!
Granted, one has less components that 175, another has an engine problem and the other has cab issues🤣🤣
@@casto- Go on, you know you want to.
In return, we want to see the pictures 🙂
@@ClarenceFudWeasel you make it sound like a tai bride🤣.
I’m still trying to earn the money! I can almost afford the first wreck 🤣🤦♂️
@@casto- If it's like a Thai bride, you need to check the running gear carefully before you sign, I have heard cases where the buyer is anticipating top rollers, but gets bottom rollers on the track frame as a bonus.
She’s seen some hard days in a previous life that’s for sure poor old thing.
It's probably one of the worst examples I have seen in a long career!
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That really does look like a masochist's fantasy but I'm not the one working on it and the most well second most important things are that you enjoy driving them and enjoy working on them. The most important being that they don't bankrupt faster than a wife that loves horses and has five field ornaments
I've got one of them too, hence the only way I can enjoy myself is by making myself suffer...
@@ClarenceFudWeasel 🤣🤣🤣
They seem ubiquitous with the countryside.
Crikey! The old girl's fallen on hard times!
Definitely had, but we'll get it fixed. Then when I die, nobody will want tractors from the 1960s and it will be exported to Africa.
The sort of tractor one would use as a boat anchor, only I think someone has already done that with it. JT has his turd Ferguson, so what do we call this one? The person that owned this probably had his shoe laces tied by his mum into his 40's, who knows maybe his shoes were welded on each morning?
Thanks for doing this old girl so that we don't have to, I will follow with interest and the odd snigger.
I wish I had an 1805 like JT. And an 1155. I wouldn't turn the Steiger down either. But I guess we'll have to make do with the 175, or maybe we should the turd75?
Thanks for watching anyway.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Cheffins had a lovely Bearcat 2 at one of their auctions in 2021 that eventually went for 10k. I looked at that tractor very seriously as I had somewhere to keep it and the money (a rare combo). My wife also looked at me very seriously so that was the end of that idea! At least I'm still married........just!
@@TimS366 They had an 8630 John Deere a couple of years ago that made similar money. But I really need an 1805 or 1155 first.
I have found the best way is just buy and then ask forgiveness 😁 and then suggests she gets rid of the horses and gets a job instead 🤣
I like hospital food.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel 🤣🤣
Think the last owner only had one spanner in their toolbox and that was a welder !!!🤔
Pity they had no idea how to use it 🤣
Thanks for watching.
That owner was the spanner 🔧
Questioning 🤔 Don't we all 🤣😂
Indeed we do. It's part of reaching maturity 🤣
Thanks for watching.
imo someone has to do it ,might aswell be you since you drew the short straw ,usually me that does that, ive a couple of fergies i rescued from a neighbours scrap ,i dont like to see these old machines scrapped ,even if in end stages of nettle shed storage
I see we speak the same language. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video. 👍
And thank you for taking the time to watch.
keep up the excellent work.
Thank you, and thanks for watching.
Scrap it Buddy
Then Lord Muck wins, I can't let that happen!
Then I shall revel in your pain, sweat and tears 😎
Somebody needs to find the previous owner and confiscate his welder
And thrash him soundly with a giant squid.
You really should put the camera on a tripod and leave it there. Hand-held camera shots are unsatisfactory for two reasons: 1. the video is unsteady and out of focus; 2. you need both hands free to do the work.