Nice to see you back on the old lass 👍. It always surprises me, up you can have something that has a little bit of water in and it’s ruined or something that’s been stood in it and it’s fine 🤷♂🤦♂
My guess is that the oil that was in there floated to the top when it filled with water and left a coat of oil over most of it. My theory anyway. Thanks for watching.
Was imagining the worst when you looked inside but that was a pleasant surprise. Also noticed how good that Elora socket set looks for something that's probably as old as the 175
I thought it was going to be a lot worse than it was too. It hadn't occurred to me, but you are right about the Elora sockets. I bought it secondhand when I joined a Ford dealers in the early 80s. Everyone else had SnapOn, so I bought Elora. I still have pretty well all of it and it's still in good condition. Thanks for watching.
That standpipe amazing how often I came across that being refitted after having the cover removed and missing the union at the bottom and people wondering why the hydraulics didn't function 🤔😂 the innards didn't look to bad at all as you said a product of good British engineering 👌 great video 👍
I have seen that too, surprisingly often. I've also seen it out back without the seals to back up the O rings. Just drop it in and hope for the best 😂 Also had one that missed the port in the valve body, so they hammered it in. Bent the end of the pipe up, damaged the valve body and then they were surprised that they had no hydraulics. Keeps us in a job I guess 🤣
Better engineering back then the old machinery stood the test of time. Great job Clarence think I would have thrown that camera in the waste oil with all its focus problems lol
I am currently working on a 165 with pressure control. It is my understanding that a tractor with pressure control does not have a pressure relief valve on the pump it is on the lift cover yet yours has a relief valve on the pump. I like your videos.
Early pressure control machines didn't have a relief valve, but used the pressure control valve instead. You can tell by the standpipe. If it's a straight tube, that lifts out, there should be a relief valve. If it has a junction block and a pipe coming out, it won't have a valve. My 165 was built with pressure control, but butchered to remove it and a relief valve never fitted so it sheared the pump mounting pegs. Thanks for watching.
Looks good inside, sludge at the bottom, but isnt it always like that. Good to see no gloves, a real mechanic. Reminds me of a callout many years ago. A Standen solobeet harvester with a 135 skid unit. No hydraulics, so they just undid all the top cover bolts including the ram cylinder nuts, didnt touch the side covers, just hooked the top cover with a chain to a loader tractor and pulled!! Not pretty when I removed it properly. By the way, Massey instructors at Stoneleigh always called it a stackpipe.
Thanks for watching, I can't get on with gloves, my hands sweat and the gloves rip in 30 seconds use. I wonder what I'll find in the sludge when I clean it out, probably been accumulating for 50 years! The original drawings from Harry Ferguson called it a standpipe. 🙂
So I followed your video to take mine apart reason is my tractors pto wouldn't disengage. I tried taking the side plate off with the pto handle and it has resistance why would tbag be? I didn't want to yank it so i took a break
Was expecting the worst when you said it had been sat full of water but I’m amazed at just how well it looks in there hats off to those who designed and manufactured at Banner Lane. Am I correct you mentioned the 175 came from the Lake District? Years ago used to go up to Carlisle to the collective machinery sale at the auction mart which if I remember right stopped when foot and mouth was raging about 2000. Anyhow there always seemed to be quite a lot of entries of all and any makes in similar if not worse than the 175 some of which were too bad to tell what breed they were without close scrutiny Like a line up of welfare cases. We always thought up there was a bit of a hotspot for total neglect of even basic maintenance a very sad attitude. Good to see you back Mr Fudd keep up the good fight 👍
I was too, it really says a lot about the quality of materials and workmanship at Banner Lane in 1965. It did come from the Lake District. I guess it spent the second half of its working life on a small upland farm probably. I often wonder what will happen to these restored tractors in a few years time when us older guys are no longer around and nobody wants them. The market for pre-war hand cranked tractors has died completely and it's hard to give them away now. In 30 years time it will probably be the same for these classics from the 50s and 60s and they will end up scrapped or exported to Africa.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Yes I have had similar thoughts on this subject with the same sort of conclusion. There will be a lot of cashed up off spring on cruises and many happy looking Africans
Great vid as always, keep them coming, just wondering I've a 365 with an 8 speed box that s a bit worn and needs some TLC iwas thinkg of fitting an 18 speed unit in its place any thoughts ?
@Clarence Fud-Weasel will do it ourselves for sure unless yourself nd mucker would like a bus man's holiday to Ireland🇮🇪 ........warm welcome guaranteed ..... nothing sorted parts wise yet was thing a complete box ect from a doner tractor , just thing the 18 speed unit would make it a bit more useable , nothing like creating work for yourself 😆
Wow, that’s such a testament to the days when the quality of British Engineering was still Great. Used, abused and knee deep in rust promoter but still shining ☀️ (on the inside anyway 😂)
That's 10 times better than I'd imagined it would be.
My videos aren't that bad are they?
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Well you're a challenging wank to say the least.
The gearbox wasn't bad though.
You said challenging, not impossible ☺️
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Not at all with you and Kurt's team.
Certainly looks better on the inside than out!
Nice to see you back on the old lass 👍. It always surprises me, up you can have something that has a little bit of water in and it’s ruined or something that’s been stood in it and it’s fine 🤷♂🤦♂
My guess is that the oil that was in there floated to the top when it filled with water and left a coat of oil over most of it. My theory anyway.
Thanks for watching.
Was imagining the worst when you looked inside but that was a pleasant surprise. Also noticed how good that Elora socket set looks for something that's probably as old as the 175
I thought it was going to be a lot worse than it was too.
It hadn't occurred to me, but you are right about the Elora sockets. I bought it secondhand when I joined a Ford dealers in the early 80s. Everyone else had SnapOn, so I bought Elora. I still have pretty well all of it and it's still in good condition.
Thanks for watching.
Looking into the abyss never looked so good!
My thoughts too!
Thanks for watching.
That standpipe amazing how often I came across that being refitted after having the cover removed and missing the union at the bottom and people wondering why the hydraulics didn't function 🤔😂 the innards didn't look to bad at all as you said a product of good British engineering 👌 great video 👍
I have seen that too, surprisingly often. I've also seen it out back without the seals to back up the O rings. Just drop it in and hope for the best 😂
Also had one that missed the port in the valve body, so they hammered it in. Bent the end of the pipe up, damaged the valve body and then they were surprised that they had no hydraulics.
Keeps us in a job I guess 🤣
Great video a pleasant surprise inside the backend no welding🤣the videos are really interesting keep up the good work 👍
It actually looks like nobody has ever had the lift cover off before. I think we've been lucky!
Thanks for watching.
Excellent update - looks great in there!
Really does, doesn't it. I was very surprised.
Better engineering back then the old machinery stood the test of time. Great job Clarence think I would have thrown that camera in the waste oil with all its focus problems lol
The engineering in the back end of the tractor is a lot better than the camera 😄
Thanks for your patience, I'll try to do better next time.
It's ok buddy but you could get Mucker to be your camera man doubt he has anything on Imao
@@andyellis307 I would, but he gets a bit 'handsy' with the talent.
IMAO
I am currently working on a 165 with pressure control. It is my understanding that a tractor with pressure control does not have a pressure relief valve on the pump it is on the lift cover yet yours has a relief valve on the pump. I like your videos.
Early pressure control machines didn't have a relief valve, but used the pressure control valve instead. You can tell by the standpipe. If it's a straight tube, that lifts out, there should be a relief valve. If it has a junction block and a pipe coming out, it won't have a valve. My 165 was built with pressure control, but butchered to remove it and a relief valve never fitted so it sheared the pump mounting pegs.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video. Very interesting.👍
Thank you for watching it.
Good video Clarence. Least the man with the welder hasn't been inside and We know the 165 will be resurrected
It really looks like nobody has been inside since it left Banner Lane, which is definitely a good thing.
Thanks for watching.
Good job Clarence, You know Your stuff, fair play👌👍🙏🙂
Thank you for your support. It is appreciated.
Good content, Clarence 🚜💯
Thank you for watching.
Looks good inside, sludge at the bottom, but isnt it always like that. Good to see no gloves, a real mechanic. Reminds me of a callout many years ago. A Standen solobeet harvester with a 135 skid unit. No hydraulics, so they just undid all the top cover bolts including the ram cylinder nuts, didnt touch the side covers, just hooked the top cover with a chain to a loader tractor and pulled!! Not pretty when I removed it properly. By the way, Massey instructors at Stoneleigh always called it a stackpipe.
Thanks for watching, I can't get on with gloves, my hands sweat and the gloves rip in 30 seconds use.
I wonder what I'll find in the sludge when I clean it out, probably been accumulating for 50 years!
The original drawings from Harry Ferguson called it a standpipe. 🙂
Have been waiting for this vid, have my top cover in bits at moment 👍
Do you have a round axle or a square axle?
Thanks for watching.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel A round axle, 1969 ad212 engine model.
@@karlredshaw7447 MK1 hydraulics and do you have pressure control?
@@ClarenceFudWeasel
Yes its got pressure control
So I followed your video to take mine apart reason is my tractors pto wouldn't disengage. I tried taking the side plate off with the pto handle and it has resistance why would tbag be? I didn't want to yank it so i took a break
Those innards don't look bad at all!
Surprisingly good in fact! I was expecting orange soup in there.
Thanks for watching.
Was expecting the worst when you said it had been sat full of water but I’m amazed at just how well it looks in there hats off to those who designed and manufactured at Banner Lane. Am I correct you mentioned the 175 came from the Lake District? Years ago used to go up to Carlisle to the collective machinery sale at the auction mart which if I remember right stopped when foot and mouth was raging about 2000. Anyhow there always seemed to be quite a lot of entries of all and any makes in similar if not worse than the 175 some of which were too bad to tell what breed they were without close scrutiny Like a line up of welfare cases. We always thought up there was a bit of a hotspot for total neglect of even basic maintenance a very sad attitude. Good to see you back Mr Fudd keep up the good fight 👍
I was too, it really says a lot about the quality of materials and workmanship at Banner Lane in 1965.
It did come from the Lake District. I guess it spent the second half of its working life on a small upland farm probably.
I often wonder what will happen to these restored tractors in a few years time when us older guys are no longer around and nobody wants them. The market for pre-war hand cranked tractors has died completely and it's hard to give them away now. In 30 years time it will probably be the same for these classics from the 50s and 60s and they will end up scrapped or exported to Africa.
@@ClarenceFudWeasel Yes I have had similar thoughts on this subject with the same sort of conclusion. There will be a lot of cashed up off spring on cruises and many happy looking Africans
The inside is serviceable. Not bad.
I'm really surprised by how good it actually is.
Thanks for watching
A very enjoyable video
Thank you very much for watching.
Great vid as always, keep them coming, just wondering I've a 365 with an 8 speed box that s a bit worn and needs some TLC iwas thinkg of fitting an 18 speed unit in its place any thoughts ?
It's doable, I guess if you are doing the work yourself it wouldn't cost that much. Do you have the parts?
@Clarence Fud-Weasel will do it ourselves for sure unless yourself nd mucker would like a bus man's holiday to Ireland🇮🇪 ........warm welcome guaranteed ..... nothing sorted parts wise yet was thing a complete box ect from a doner tractor , just thing the 18 speed unit would make it a bit more useable , nothing like creating work for yourself 😆
All that silicone, somebody definitely didnt want to loose all that water they put in there 😁
That's what I thought too 😂
Thanks for watching.
Wow, that’s such a testament to the days when the quality of British Engineering was still Great. Used, abused and knee deep in rust promoter but still shining ☀️ (on the inside anyway 😂)
It really does show the quality of the gear cutting and hardening when this 175 was made.
Thanks for watching.
Thank god there's no horrors insideM
It's way better than I was expecting! Thanks for watching.
This is the nastiest tractor I’ve ever seen.