Are Closed Emitters A Fad? | Holosun 509T
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Closed emitter dots are all the craze right now, with the Steiner MPS, Acro p2, and of course the subject of today's video. The 509T.
While the 509t is not indicative of all closed emitter optics, it does share a lot of characteristics with the other pistol compatible optics, and serves as a good talking point.
ThinlineDefenese(Walsh Review of the 509T X2
• Holosun 509t - Version...
0:00 : Intro
0:49 : Quick Holosun comparison
2:15 : 509T Specifics
3:01 : Pistol uses
5:04 : Rifle uses
6:37 : Piggyback
8:18 : PCC
8:52 : NVG use (mediocre)
10:11 : Outro
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Hop released his 509 video today, so now I have to release this early. THANKS HOPS
I was gonna say, my lesbian aunt did a video about this too. But you already saw it I guess.
Don’t let Hop bully you. Upload at your own pace. Lmao.
Well, you were still too slow, so...
Y’all need to get a room already
It's tough when your significant other is in the same industry, tbh
I found a jellybean I had dropped in my open emitter 507k. So that's a win for the open emitter. No waste.
That concludes it
Not sure I agree with the majority of gun owners “reading the latest tag line” and buying something for hundreds of not thousands of dollars. Most of us are gun/gear heads who pride themselves in having the best of the best gear/parts, which is why channel like yours are popular, because MOST people like us do hours of diligent research before making a purchase to guarantee it’s going to fit our needs.
Same here. I can’t afford to buy multiple optics to get physical time with them and see which I like better. Reviews/reviewers like this help a ton in helping rather or not I wanna try something out. I like people like this and Hop who are no BS and don’t simp for brands and tell us like it is.
@@wildcat8598 yep..they spend the money and do the testing I can't afford to do. Thank you Gun Bunnies
Instagram says otherwise
I wish I could agree. At least where I live, it’s all about trends and fads. I’m considered an oddball Bc I don’t always jump on the bandwagon
@@enginepy Could be a good thing living around a bunch of beta testers. 😁
Chapters:
0:00 : Intro
0:49 : Quick Holosun comparison
2:15 : 509T Specifics
3:01 : Pistol uses
5:04 : Rifle uses
6:37 : Piggyback
8:18 : PCC
8:52 : NVG use (mediocre)
10:11 : Outro
FYI your video inspired me to build a PDW. This might be my optic. Thanks!
what PDW? actually it doesn't matter: buy the X2 or better yet, get a 403R. The 509t base model is unsuited for a pdw. To much parallax, and distortion
Also, you a G man. Thanks for the time stamps
@@BrassFacts I'm between the Flux and a really short 300blk build. I'm going the backpack gun route, and am trying to get under the dimensions you discussed.
Thanks! I always look forward to watching the videos to make timestamps. Keep up the great content!
The real question: Was the open emitter optic a fad?
all optics are a fad. Point shooting only!
@@BrassFacts "Ok, boomer"
@Brass Facts all firearms are a fad, just throw rocks really hard.
@@death31313 Pointy sticks, bruh
@@Excalibur01 bare knuckles
Not having to blow dust out all the time. Makes it worth it. It's not a fad. It's the future. I'm super excited about the EPS carry. Actually I believe I've only cleaned it once now that I'm thinking about it. PS I also believe the 509t is the most durable pistol red dot ever made.
Some people just feel the need to blow.
The arisaka offset mount has a dedicated 509t plate for it. So really not much extra weight compared to my old plate with the 507c.
Loving the team work with hop! Also congrats on having 100 videos up I've been enjoying it
I think there's a pretty good case for a closed emitter RDS on a hiking/wildlife defense gun, especially if you're not being forced to conceal it (Looking at you, National Parks System). I guess it's all the same reasons as if you're using it as a duty gun or back up sidearm, but that's what has me a bit interested in them.
Laying out the facts like no one else. Never even heard of one review mentioning the parallax issues with these pistol red dots
Great commentary. Great gun handling. Talking about my favorite PDW kit, and yeah, I am trying to figure out what to get to eventually replace my current 509t.
I love my 509T on my G17. I've had zero issues I don't really notice the parallax issue like you said. I just put the gen 2 on my new Shadow Systems DR920P. The clarity is slightly better. Like you said and I agree it is for a pistol. I went closed due to a lot of my competitions if it rains you still shoot. My last one I had to shoot in pouring rain and my dot on the RMR was a mess... Good video sir...
There's really no case for open emitter optics anymore. They've been adapted for pistol use, which is the only niche they filled.
I've had zero issue with my 509t, the distortion is less than either of my type 2 rmr's. Same or better light transmission under NV, and I'm able to hit a 6" swinger at 100 yards no issue on an arisaka offset mount, from non-ideal positions.
NOOOO MUH RMR
I'm surprised you didn't get as much ass pain as I did by saying this on a few other channels videos. It always devolves into people crying about muh trijicon.
As a 509T gen1 and 507Kx2 owner, I will say I am SO happy I chose to get a closed emitter such as the 509T on my gen5 Glock 17 MOS, especially when using it as an EDC CCW optic in the appendix position.
It’s such a pain in the ass to try and get the rear of the optic lens clean on my 507k when it gets tshirt lint in it, since it basically acts as a tray for all undershirt tshirt lint when I conceal carry it, and the lens itself is tiny so getting a finger to clean the back of the lens is annoying.
When I conceal carry my G17 with a 509T in the same appendix position with aN undershirt, I can easily wipe all that shirt lint and shit off almost immediately instead of having to shoot through it. I never have to worry about sweat getting on it from running around or wearing it for a long time either, since I can always swipe it with my tshirt and badabing, it’s immediately clean.
Also, circle dots are so fun for training or competition use, and they make for extremely useful flash sight pictures that might happen in the fast draw of a concealed carry fashion. The 509T’s bigger window also makes the circle-dot reticle much less distracting than on the 507Kx2 does, where it takes up a lot more room on the optic lens and almost obscures the target.
I don’t have any issue with the 509T printing at all carrying appendix in my T1C axis slim holster either, but then again I’m 6’3 and 200ish lbs.
Honestly I can’t wait to get the 509T gen 2, or the primary arms 509 with the ACSS reticle, but for me the 509T gen 1’s distortion isn’t bad enough to want to just get rid of it immediately or switch to a P2 just yet. YMMV.
Use a makeup brush to clean to dust or you'll get fine scratches.
Don't ever go jamming your finger & cloth on your optic, closed or open emitter. Tons of great tools out there that not only help blow away larger debris but also can easily clean the lenses like micro lens pens. I use a soft brush with a puff of air for the majority of debris and then use a qtip with oakly lens cleaning solution on it then simply dry the lens off with the other side. Done this dozens and dozens of times now and zero scratches from cleaning.
@@TerminalM193 because you’re certainly gonna be carrying a lens pen with you every single time you are carrying or use your gun…
@@inferninx I certainly do. I have one in my car, my cleaning bag, my edc bag and on my workbench. They're no longer than 3 inches and quarter inch in width.... It's not like anyone's cleaning their optic mid fight....
True, but it’s nice to know that if I have to go traipsing through the woods with my gun in holster and i fall down or trip on a root in the rain, my optic emitter or that single front pane of glass isn’t going to put the gun out of the fight like an open emitter optic might be. At that point, it would be nice to have an optic cleaning pen, but it’s also nice to be able to take a piece of cloth or hell, your glove and wipe off the rear lens.
Carrying a lens pen on you every single day for an open emitter optic in case it ever gets dirty or obstructed is kind of a cope, which is why closed emitter gang is hugely popular now.
I've been using a 508T for work on my duty gun. I've noticed over time that gunk and dust would get in there. Even times where it would blur or distort the red dot emitter. At this point I'm pretty committed to getting a 509T for those reasons.
This is a solution in search of a problem. It’s so simple to occasionally clean my RMR’s and SRO that I’d never trade them for that big clumsy box on top of my slide.
First time watcher. I'd agree with all of the reasonable points in this video 👍
You and Hop make the best videos
I mean, reading through the comments on here and scratching my head a bit. I've been carrying a RMR for over 2 years now in South FL (heat, humidity, sweat, etc) and have never had an issue with it being unusable. And that's carrying consistently, same pistol, diff clothes/clothing types, different weather conditions, going from AC to crazy heat and vice versa, walking through rain. I'm not against closed emitters by any means, but I think the open emitter thing is overblown most of the time. Also, having spoken to many military guys who used RMRs overseas in diff conditions and they were happy with them. All things considered though, I can see how closed emitters are a good choice. The printing issue can be pretty significant depending on body type, set up, carry position, etc.
Oh and by the way, I'm paid by Trijicon. Just kidding, I wish I was though... Would be nice.
Unfortunately I have had problems with open emitters in weather. Specifically snow, makes them unusable.
Double content dump makes me happy
I love my 509 so much. Still use an open emitter for my edc but for owb and home applications full size pistols.
I had a Great Pyrenees, I can attest to the instant hair regeneration. With the negative polarity her hair stuck to everything. 🙂
In your opinion, which optic would be the best for a EDC. I carry on my hip mostly, but sometimes in a shoulder holster.
Or the one you have the least complaints about.
Just looking for your educated opinion.
Thanks.
I was looking at the aems or 512 for a rifle I’ve been pretty happy with my 507 and like Holosun quite a bit. I have ran into the issue of it getting rain and snow in my 507 while on my range belt though. While concealed it’s been great i clean the lens every few months but can definitely see the benefit of the closed emitter on a pistol. It’s kinda hard to get down to the lens with just a finger to clean it out.
The 509 is my favorite. I just put my gen1 on my stribog and it's perfect. Originally got it for my glock but I'm upgrading to a 507C ACSS for now. May get the 509 ACSS in the future if I get a slide custom milled, otherwise they sit too high for my liking with the adapter plate
Looking forward to using the Holosun EPS.
Good vid, good thoughts. Closed emitter became mandatory in my mind the first time I saw an RMR become useless due to snow while still riding in a duty holster. Also saw a whole class worth of RMRs and DPPs struggle in heavy rain while my closed boi stayed A-OK.
No complaints on the 509Ts from me. I’ve used both gens since they each came out, and I honestly didn’t notice the glass quality issues on the older gen until it was pointed out to me.
I left my gen.1 509t comment on Hop's video, but I am glad to hear the x2 is so much better. I literally sold mine due to the intense fisheye.
Holosun has a direct mount plate for the Glock MOS system which sits quite low. I like my 509 and it was a great upgrade from my Vortex Venom.
Did that come with the gen1s? Because mine came with an RMR cut adapter plate, and the screws provided by Holosun were too long and impeded on the ejection spring pretty bad on my gen5 mos g17. That’s why I had to go with the CHPWS MOS to 509T adapter plate, since they actually provided the correct length screws as well.
@@inferninx why not just get shorter screws
I know I'm late, but just like the parties I went to I'm college, at least I'm in. I just started carrying a dot with my SIG P365XL. It's a small Riton MPRDS. Found it for $99. So far I love it. I've already begun to get used to it. The only thing I have come to get annoyed by is cleaning the lens every couple days. It's not a big deal. And I clean my gun every few weeks so as long as that is good. I can use a cloth every 2 days.
I noticed a very little bit of increased muzzle flip when mounting a 509t compared with the sro that was previously on it. Wonder if anyone else has noticed this? Not noticable enough for me to go back to previous configuration but noticeable enough that, well, I notice.
I don’t think it’s a fad. Especially in places with high precipitation, snow especially. Makes sense where I am for sure.
I love my RMR but when I shoot in the rain or if any dirt gets on the emitter lens it's a shitty time. Since I have an ACRO P2 as well I prefer it over the RMR because it's easier to just wipe the lens if I need to.
Loving this content schedule right now.
The Steiner MPS is fantastic. Over 2.5k rounds with mine on my Glock 17 mos and it’s be solid. Have done my own drop tests and has not been effected at all.
Sadly, that will becoming to a end.
@@BrassFacts noooooo! I have too much stuff to work on. I need your voice playing in the background 😫
Lol. Memes about the GooBeRS hydra mount have been 🔥
The UA-camr equivalent of “when girls live together their periods sync up”
Holy camera shake Batman...that recoil is earth shaking
This on a PDW would be perfect option, idk maybe I’m weird but I went back to irons on my carry it seems I’m just as fast and accurate with a handgun with irons… I tried for a year to train and get more efficient and weirdly I just got even better with my iron sights in the end haha.
It’s damn near indistinguishable at best the difference in speed and accuracy if anything I get more in the zone hits every run with irons.
Idk now I tell all my friends yes get a rmr or 507 etc for your carry pistol and go make yourself train with it I think it’s an amazing training aid it forced you to find your natural point of aim almost and it’s actually instinctively harder to have fast follow ups than irons and will make you slow down and reset and learn to manage your recoil timing and positioning .
I feel like everyone if they can afford it should definitely get a milled slide gun and go that route but don’t be surprised if in the end you end up carrying iron sights. Smaller footprint for concealing on you every day and if you TRAIN you can really do some work with a Glock 19 and a good set of irons at least for me the way my eyes work I’m definitely just as fast and accurate.
I want to get this pistol brace he has here that looks pretty nice like that is the perfect setup for a rmr or this 509 or 507 etc… having a non reciprocating red dot with a third contact point in that tight of a package is perfect.
I'm about to buy a G48 MOS and because of HOW I carry it, which would be IWB, I think the closed emitter dots adds a bit too much bulk to a carry gun. For a duty gun that's worn OWB, especially on a drop leg, I think the closed emitter benefits because it's more solid and protected.
The new Holosun EPS carry model is the exact same form factor as the 507K in terms of its window size and emitter hood shape since it’s flat on top, so added bulk really shouldn’t be an issue if you plan on getting that one.
Its also supposed to mount directly to an RMSC footprint instead of needing one of the adapter plates from CHPWS or other companies, so that’s another plus. Is thr EPS carry model expensive? Yes, but it’s worth it in my opinion for the added benefit and sound of mind since you’re never getting lint or crap on the back of your lens when you carry it all day like you can if you have a smaller open emitter like the 507Kx2. This is speaking from experience of carrying my shield plus with a 507kx2, which constantly gets lint on the rear of the lens when I carry it appendix with an undershirt. Compared to my 509T on my G17 gen5 mos, it makes almost no difference in terms of bulk when appendix carrying anyway, but your mileage may vary.
I got an x1 for 299 bucks and I’m stoked with its performance for the cost. I still suck with pistol red dot though. I need some practice.
Were you loading empty cases or snap caps into your Glock for malfunction drills, or was the optic's weight causing cycling issues?
I use a 512c on a 16 inch ar15. Magnify it 3x and love it.. not sure if it’s any better than an open emitter, but for the price and glass quality, I feel like you can’t beat it.
The 509tx2 models also have circle only reticle. The first gen 509t models were only dot and circle dot
I have a 509t v2 and a RMR t2 socom plus a vortex and some others. One thing that I have found advantages with the 509t for me personally. I have astigmatism, while outdoors it doesn't have much affect. Under artificial light the 509t is far superior and ultra crisp, compared to the others I mentioned. This of course will be different for different people
I’m not sure if anyone has pointed this out, but C&H sells a single plate specifically for the 509T and fits perfectly.
what are your options IF the seal on the enclosed optic is compromised and it fogs up or some dust finds a way in there or something? You can't then just wipe it off and clean it, it's basically done at that point.
Cowitnessed iron sights, or better yet practice instinctive aiming/point fire. I can be reasonably accurate at 10 yds with no sight whatsoever. You could say the same thing about any closed and purged optic though.. ever use a lpvo or other scope and think about that?
Hope I’am not being redundant but GG&G just came out with a dedicated 509T mount that I use for my Beretta 1301 shotgun. It’s quite nice. Good Video Sir.
Hey can anyone ID the holster the guy with the P07 with the TLr7 is using. I have this same setup and cannot find a cc holster for that???
Surprised you and hop didn't release within 30 minutes of eachother again, lol
Do you and Hop coordinate your wardrobes too? 😉
no. much to hops dismay
We both wear 5.11 pants and plaid shirts exclusively
Another great video bro. Do you think you could make a vid on the new EOTECH 1-10 LVPO? Not really any good videos on it yet.
Probably not. It's a lot of money that I don't have.
Let me say with I switched all my carry options over from open to closed emitter. If you carry 24/7/365, even in concealment, open design get crud all over the inside. A 10hr day at work come home unholster and I have lint, I blow that out but then the entire inside lense has tiny specks of sweat. Can I see to target? Yes. But, I got sick of cleaning my open emitter RDS every single 8-10 hrs. Trying to clean out the tiny "cup". I scratch the lens over time. Plus closed is VASTLY more structurally sound. The one gun I haven't switched, my summer carry p365 xl still has 507k. Only bc I can't find an EPS CARRY. Every 8-10hrs of carrying I have an inner lense that's covered with tiny specks of sweat and lint and trying to get into that "cup" so small My pinky won't fit. Ugh. My p226 with acro p320 with Steiner MPS, p227 Romeo2. Never an issue and it's never a pain to wipe the back lense with a cloth if it has a smudge. Not a fad. Closed is the only way to go.
Awesome video bro. Think i will get the 509t. And where do you shoot at? That looks absolutely gorgeous where you shoot at
I have one offset mounted on my MR556 and love it
Great video but those Thin Line Defense guys are mean lol keep up the great content
-Walsh
we need some mean reviewers. To much softballing.
Shot my rifle in the rain recently. The 507 I had mounted on it was useless as soon as water got in it. Glad I went with a 509 on my Glock. Getting a second one for the rifle.
Your giving away a dot, so your video is infinitely better than Hop's.
Surprised you didnt look into the mpa30dmg for your pdw video. Or the mpa57
Im waiting for the new holosun EPS closed sights to come out. Going to get the micro for my p365xl (im tired of cleaning all the lint out of the lens and off the emitter. Pain in the ass and really need a lens pen to reach in there. With the closed emitter much easier to just wipe it off. Maybe its just me but it seems to get nasty really quick.
I couldn’t agree more, and as someone who EDCs a 509t user on my G17 gen5 mos, it’s a huge relief that I can just wipe the front and rear lens off with a shirt very easily as opposed to my 507Kx2 on my Shield plus. Yes, the gun itself is bigger and heavier, especially in a sidecar holster setup, but If you’re gonna be concealed carrying it with an undershirt, it makes a huge difference in how clean the emitter and lenses stay and how easy they both are to clean comparatively. 10/10 would recommend a closed emitter.
I would also say if you can only afford one closed emitter and have offset/rifle and handguns to decide on put it on the rifle first. Even if your emitter gets obscured on your pistol the first shot flinging that slide back should throw most of that out junk/water out. On a rifle where the dot wont really be moving you’ll need to actually reach in and clean it out yourself.
Yeah I've had a 507 c for quite some time now on my pistol, since before the 509 came out and I've seen no reason to switch since that gun is covered up by my shirt and protected. But a gen 2 509 replaced the Delta point pro I previously had mounted offset on my rifle
I have a 509T on my RUGER 57. With the circle I can use the 6 o'clock reticle for actual 100 yard hits.
So good is the 509T that I put a HOLOSUN AEMS on my 9 mm RUGER PC. The AEMS is THE best "red dot" for a PCC in IMHO.
How do you like the XC-1? I have one on my Glock 19 but I've never seen anyone talk about them?
As a fellow lefty, if your gun doesn't have an ambi slide release, you should try my slide release method: when the slide locks back on empty, put a new mag in. Then, bring your right hand back to the grip. Reach your thumb up and jam it into the ejection port. You may need to tip the gun slightly up to reach your thumb forward. With your thumb in a hook shape, push back on the breech face with your thumb, then get it the fuck out of the way. (your thumb print should almost be touching the breech face.) tada! Slide released! Maybe I should make a video...
Some people talk chit on holosun but I have a 510c in green and it's been dead nuts reliable for 3 years now. Same set of batteries and well over 1k rounds through a 9mm platform, a .308 platform and a 5.56 platform. Parallax shift is minimal. Like very minimal for me.
Would I rather have bought an eotech? Yeah. And I will if this thing craps out. But it doesn't look like it will be anytime soon.
How is the 509 v2 under nods?
You should try and do podcasts with other industry people your sense of humor and knowledge are great
trying. I got a couple lined up. but it all takes time
Can we get a prism etched reticle sight with the form factor of an open end emitter RDS? For us folks with astigmatism, who like the form factor and functionality of mini RDS?
It's 2022, and sights not having an etched reticle to maximize usability in any situation is so 2005. Come on, folks!
only exists for rifles atm it seems in the 1x form factor
Outside of astigmatic people, etched reticles are overrated.
I’ve heard it’s being worked on, but it’s very difficult for an eye relief thing
I've been asking for this very thing for YEARS now! The outcry for one is certainly out there so the technology must not quite be here just yet.... Someday hopefully....
@@borkwoof696 You're kidding right? Etched reticles have their place just as emitter optics do.... To say otherwise is either a poor joke or lack of knowledge....
So when considering options for piggybacking on an acog, would you just stick to an rmr? The 509t and acro are both able to be mounted as well.
yeah, I don't want a honking large thing in my FOV, the acog is the primary aiming method for me.
@@BrassFacts would you recommend using a piggyback at all? It seems like I don't have any issues close with mine (just got it a few weeks ago) but options are nice. I tried an offset and didn't care for it.
I still haven't picked up a closed emitter pistol dot. I'm strongly considering the holosun HE509-RD with the Acss vulcan reticle for my cary pistol. Sometimes I have issues when I present a pistol in darker environments finding my dot. The cool thing about the Acss vulcan is it has a very large circle that doesn't even show up in the window when the dot is centered but if your dot isn't on the window or isn't centered you'll see it appear from the edges. I also just really like chevron reticles.
Whether you're in a light or dark environment finding your dot Should never be a problem. When you punch your pistol out to extension your dot Should be there.
100% of the time.
You're having a training issue, not a reticle issue lol
That being said Chevron reticles are better for making more precise shots for sure
@@mrdark9916 it can make that training issue a lot easier to deal with if it’s your first handgun optic though, since it gives you a better reference point for correcting aim compared to one without the ACSS reticle. That being said, shooting my 507Kx2 and 509T gen 1 with the circle dot reticle makes that kind of a non issue for learning and training dot presentation as well before you decide to turn it off for a cleaner dot.
@Mr Dark true, the majority of my shooting is with pistols that don't have red dots. Since the dot sits a bit higher than factory iron sights, it means your presentation needs to be slightly adjusted, if Im on a flat range in ideal conditions I can do that just fine but under stress I can't guarantee I would be able to. It's also worth noting that you aren't always in an ideal posture to get a perfect pistol draw. A real-life example I can point to was when I was staying at a cabin in a state park, in the middle of the night I heard a loud bang on the door, lying in bed I drew my pistol but couldn't see my dot so I had to use the night sights to adjust until the dot appeared. It turns out a deer had climbed onto the deck of the cabin knocking stuff over, so there was no real danger, but still not seeing your dot in unusual shooting positions can be a problem.
I fielded the first red dots issued to regular infantry units in AFG and Iraq. Ever since then on my first pistol I was on the bandwagon for pistol red dots.
I was massively disappointed the first time i had to clean the emitter and couldnt get it clean enough.
Close emitters are the shit.
This is one of the few shilless youtube channels that you get a realistic review of products. I remember when some of the veteran youtubers were objective like BF. Now I don't watch them I watch him.
The last heavy rain my friends shot in the open emitter offsets were unusable, while the 509t offsets were usuable (as offsets on a rifle)
Arisaka already has dedicated offset mount plate. Source: I have one
good to know
Just found your channel a few weeks ago and Im almost caught up. LOL. Outstanding content. Would love to hear your opinion on the Sig Romeo 4T, particularly under night vision. It seems to have the best specs around and I'd love to hear how it does under NV. Thanks for the great info!
glad to be of service.
short answer: not good
long answer: not good, but probably got watch hops videos on it. Basically the same as the rest of the the red dots in the industry.
@@BrassFacts Thanks for the reply! Though I cant find his video on the 4T. Are you sure you're not referring to the Romeo 5? I have heard him mention that one a few times.
@@cohesive3482 I think he covers it in his budget RDS review
@@BrassFacts Yeah I don't think we are talking about the same optic. The 4T retails for $550. But I hit up Hop and he says there is a review incoming. Thanks again!
@@cohesive3482 lol sorry. I sometimes forget which string of letters refers to which optic.
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I sweat a lot and i notice my dot starbursting sometimes just from sweat getting inside the emitter, so I bet itd be nice for people like me.
The issue is that most have no issues with their holosun510c. So why would someone pay more to get the same result? I don’t see it personally
I like the 507C ACSS for concealed carry, but if it were bolted to a long gun, he 509T ACSS would be my first choice.
I have a fairly rough astigmatism and the 507 plays much nicer with my eyes.
The battery life is the only issue for concealed carry, but if your ok changing every 3-4mo then that’s fine
Completely agree! Both the acss version AND the regular 507c circle dot somehow counter my astigmatism FARRRRR better than any other optic on the market for me.
With the 509t or 509tx2 can I still use the high iron sights with it and be able to see them ? @brassfacts
yes if you direct mount, no if you use the adapter.
This is off topic. But do you know of anyone that has used the USNV DesignatIR? I’m looking to get an illuminator/designator and am looking around. I’ve seen the unit on their website, but haven’t seen or heard of anyone using one.
I really want to try one. But it's a lot of money on such a big unknown
@@BrassFacts yeah… I tried looking around for reviews. Haven’t found much
Steiner already had an enclosed w the MRS.. one of the first if not the first.
Random question: Have you tried putting a 1x or 2x prism on your raider?
nope. Wouldn't be great being that close to your face
hell yeah. do you ride dirtbikes? i am thinking about building a .308 kit with a bike as the base of the kit. a klr 650 or maybe a YZ250. would be cool to see how others go about it.
Got a raider on the latest drop, what optic should I go with? I noticed you said you don’t like the 509 for it.
what's your budget like. I like the 403R
@@BrassFacts $300 or under would be nice, I’ve got astigmatism so I’d probably want a green dot. I don’t think the 403r has one unfortunately
@@adamho8059 I think there 403 has a green dot.
I’m not sure about everybody else, but I had an open Amira conceal carry, but I work construction in a super dusty environment anyone that doesn’t know you’re at mirror can get obscured with dust and debris, so I choose to run a closed mirror. I can quickly wipe the rear lens and I’m good to go. I don’t care if it’s a fad or not it works for my circumstances.
New Holosun EPS coming
Any plans to check out the Acro in the future?
Edit: Also, what‘s wrong with Delta Points?
Deltapoints: nothing, they've just fallen out of favor. probably because they're not as durable as RMR's. I just haven't seen one in ages
Acro: no probably not unless a gun needs one. I don't get very good Roi or viewership on RDS reviews.
What’s a bigger fad? Closed emitter or sky scraper dot mounts?
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Skyscrapers have ruined me. Now “normal” hight mounts feel uncomfortable
How about those handgun light rail mounted optic, well, mounts that are not attached to the slide? I wonder how they hold zero and do in general. Noice video as always
those are pretty neat, (assuming you mean the 6 second mount). Not sure they're made anymore tho
@@BrassFacts thanks for the reply. I guess it's a nightmare to make tactical holsters for them too.
@@BrassFacts ALG defense still makes them. They’re just constantly out of stock on their site due to high demand from the open class competitor and tactical use market. When they do drop, they’re always out of stock really fast.
Absolutely not a fad. I'm so sick snd tired of constantly getting lint and dirt out of my carry RMR.
personally I like the closed emitter pistol optics before they were popular. the only problem I had and have is the cost, being a poor I just could no and cannot afford any decent optic for my pistol or rifle. so I have to use chinesiam products, because that is all I can afford. plus there is the fact that I have to justify price of optics to my wife, and without have a nice optic to compare to a less then budget optic, to show her and explain, then she doesn't get it
Fine cinematography and pacing as usual. Your barely controlled laughter at times is very sinister, which is good. Hop still has an edge on you in dialogue (monologue) though. Not saying you aren't delivering the goods but that you are just not putting stang on it like he does. Your fun attitude is infectious, but then again, Hop's acting as if he is making sacrificing to his dark god is too. Thanks again.
I like the 509 bc it's easier to wipe Dorito dust off the rear lense
I wish this was available in green
Enclosed red dots are huge for me because the good Lord decided that with a slender build I should still sweat like a 300lb sump wrestler in a sauna in the south Florida heat.
hah fair.
Secret facts/hop cabal confirmed
Pro: rain and dirt suck less
con: battery and mounting
I get so much butthurt directed at me by saying that there's no reason running an open emitter when closed emitter came onto the scene. I normally add "Remove the chance of water or clothing lent from getting you killed", which causes people to sperg out saying "show me an example of someone dying to that".
Most of the folks commenting can't even squat their bodyweight or do ten pushups, but they can't go without the latest gear. Priorities though right? 😔
I’m not a subscribe star but I love you all the same😉
What did you throw on the flux to replace it?
holosun 403 with the spinny knob. Forgot the exact model name
@@BrassFacts ahh the 403r I think. That’s a chonky guy. I keep on debating between a 509t (I think it’s out after this), the aems assuming the ultra low mount comes out soon (by tactical development) and the aimpoint Acro p2.
Can confirm, my Belgian Malinois regenerates hair instantaneously while you scratch her.
the true perpetual energy device. Dog hair.
Guess I'll get an acro!